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I am still a bit upset that Satori closed shop right as we were getting ready to make a custom chip for the community. I loved the idea of all the great artists we have here (not me) entering a "competition" for the chip design. 

With that said, Tangem allows for a custom card order.  I am guessing this wont be feasible, as you've got to order a minimum of 1k cards.  However I figured I'd ask anyhow. I know some people would likely want quite a few for themselves, some have crypto shops they'd like a few stacks for, etc.

Any chance this is doable? Again guessing not, but thought I'd bring it up anyhow...

-> https://tangem.typeform.com/to/u7Yb51

I personally think that it’s doable and would be a great idea .
I remember this thread ,but it unfortunately died a death for some reason.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111005.msg50327576#msg50327576

Sorry if it’s a bit off topic .

If the TANGEM cards can be done for THIS year , go for it

You can just order four cards in a Tangem Trial Kit (https://store.tangem.com/products/tangem-trial-kit?variant=15299195502658) directly for $49.

Yes, but those aren't custom cards. I can see how it would be cool to have one that is designed just for the forum.

At $5 a pop I'd say it would be easy to make an order for 1,000 of the suckers. Could give the designer 50 cards or whatever too if people would vote for it :).

$5 each (for a 1000 order) is an affordable price.  I have some of those cards, and the technology underneath is innovative.

Also, it would be nice if they could individually serialize them. I can see that there is a serial number on each card. I was wondering if the last 4 digits of the serial number could be  #0001-#1000

That would be a very nice collectable, for the bitcointalk community, and with the $5 price tag (+ shipping fees + taxes etc.), could also attract users from outside the Collectibles section as well.

The only issue is that 1000 pieces are a lot, and there might be difficult to sell/distribute all of them

edit: GO for it!!! Personally, I am definitely interested in getting some. Prolly we could do some kind of interest check, and raise some funds to place the initial order

edit2: some users might want to partially sponsor the initial batch of cards, by putting their logo at the back of the card. (ie. logos of mantis warehouse, physibit etc. etc.)  . Hence, the price per card might get even lower.

Good idea Ty! At $5 each I would be in for 20 cards..a nice design is a must too.

After further inspection of the order process we can customize the following:

Color on the right hand side of the card (the stripe).
Add a logo on the left side of the card (max 3 colors and it can't be gradient).
Add a name on the back of the card (Bitcointalk.org, for example).
Decide if it should show the loaded value (if we want loaded value on the cards, I thought 0.001 or so could be nice).

Something to be done but just so we know it can't be completely custom.

also, for those that are unaware of what those Tangem cards are, here is a nice description:

"Tangem Notes are highly secure smart cards carrying cryptocurrencies on a recently developed EAL6+ SecurCore microchip from Samsung Semiconductor. Once loaded, they can be used as cash — handed over to other people for physical transactions or for extremely secure cold storage of digital assets.

The value can be extracted at any time by signing a transaction from the Tangem Note to an arbitrary wallet. This requires a compatible NFC–enabled Android phone and is protected by a 60–second security delay. iPhone can be used only for card validation and balance check.

Private keys cannot be imported or exported from Tangem Notes under any circumstance. No backup possible — by design. Each Tangem Note creates its own private keys and can never disclose them. The value is completely tied to the physical chip. Loss, theft, or destruction of a Tangem Note will result in loss of funds."

Some really great ideas here! Just a thought..Theymos wanted to do a bitcointalk coin, that has seemingly faded out. Maybe if the card had a bitcointalk logo on it (sort of piggybacking off Tweetious’s sponsor idea) he would be willing to post a buy link on the front page. Maybe tack on a few satoshis which could then be donated to the forum? Just an idea..

There are collectors here who could order 1000 custom cards at $5 each but I doubt any one person could justify reselling at cost. Even selling at $12.25 a card (that's the cost per card if you order a trial kit) plus shipping might not be worth the time involved in selling 1000 cards unless it was to promote your brand or store.

A group buy with a minimum order? Maybe with 50 people buying 20 cards apiece. Problem I see is that with 1000 custom cards there may not be a premium for collectors for years if ever. If someone organized a group buy for a cool looking custom card I would not have a problem ordering 20 for $250 (nothing wrong with making a profit for your time if you organize the group buy.) Thoughts?

I really like the idea of a Bitcointalk tangem card! IMO Tangem is for now the best technology for this kind of wallet.

I have some time to take care of this project. If 10 trusted users, like BitcoinNewsMagazine, give here a signal of interest for 50 cards, I will order the cards and take care of the delivery to everyone.

Doing that only for fun and as a kind of donation for the forum. So I will sell the cards at purchase price plus delivery fees ofc.

I like the idea of a custom card. Cant go wrong with that price.

Or a date and only serialize the first 10 with a date and number and auction/raffle those.

I totally agree. Private keys are embedded inside the card, hence there is no trust issue here (except of course trusting the Tangem company).

You can load & unload funds, pass the card multiple times to multiple different people, and never worry about the private key get exposed. I cannot recall if there is any other similar product that allows you to do the same. In opendime, you need to "break" it in order to reveal the private key and hence send funds. In hardware wallets, you always need your seed word or you PIN  for sending funds (and hence you cannot pass those to other people along with your hardware wallet)

IMO one of the best offline crypto storage means of exchange (i.e. pass crypto funds, like old dirty fiat bills, without the need of the blockchain verification). Also very convenient, since with a single "tap" of the card you can instantly see the status of the card (total funds, if it was prior redeemed etc.)

total cost is $5 each (for 1000 minimum order) + 40$/50$ shipping + taxes.

reselling them for $8-$10 each (+shipping) might be enough for covering the initial  ordering investment (even if you do not sell all of them)


That's true. However, this is not a "strictly" collectible item. Is something that you can actually use (usability), instead of just collecting it. It's not like placing an order for 1000 paper wallets, which you can load them once, seal private key with a holo and that's it.

Similarly to hardware wallets: You might want to acquire a limited edition version for collectable purposes. However, you might want to get an additional one for everyday usage

I don't know if there is a potential for a collectible object. But definitely a very good thing to promote the usage of hardware wallet (imo should be the case for ALL crypto holders) and ofc of Bitcointalk.

Just filled an order.. should have news from them in the next days.

 

     Did you fill an order for 1000 custom cards? If so what design modifications will be implemented on these cards?

     Looking forward to owning a few custom ones as I have ordered every item they had for sale thru the years.

At $5 I wouldn't mind ordering 100 of these and handing these out to my nephews and nieces and their friends who are heading to college and spread the awareness of BTC and get more people involved in the collecting world..

Hi!

Let me act here on behalf of Tangem for a while. We will add an official account in a few days to interact with the Bitcointalk Community.
We want to help with the limited edition Bitcointalk card. Let's make something cool together.

For us, the most expensive part of small orders cost is the card's artwork. That's why we allow customizing only the logo and colors for the small orders. Our external design studio is cool but too expensive for the 1k order design.
If we find some guys who can handle the design, we can allow more options for customization of the 'limited edition' Bitcointalk cards. I will prepare and share some tech details on the next week.

On our side, we can open pre-sale of the limited edition cards via our website to raise initial funds for the manufacturing.

    Thanks for stopping by Tangem! You have come to the right place where many in here have been ordering directly from your site thru the years....so a custom card will be an exciting addition to anyone's collection!
 
     We have plenty of designers in here too that I am sure can whip up an excellent design!

Great to have you stop in! Some really great ideas going on here all around. I did not expect much out of this post, but I am glad to see it getting so much attention. I think this could certainly be a really cool/fund joint venture between Tangem and bitcointalk! I look forward to hearing other peoples thoughts and maybe seeing this materialize!

I put the forum colors and ask in the form if a design of a logo is possible... but this order it's not anymore relevant since @13TNLjs3oLfvTNuyb5ZL92DkG message :)
Looking forward the opening of the pre-sale!

Let's start with the design. Pre-sale will be the next step.

Some basic info:
Tangem card size is 85.6x45 mm. ISO ID-1 (credit card) size 85.6x53.98 mm is possible.
Clear or white plastic. Matt finishing (glossy is possible, but scratches are too visible).
Antenna position and shape cannot be changed. The chip position can be on the right or left side.

We use a solid color (not CMYK, colors from Pantone solid coated library) offset printing, to get maximum artwork quality. That's why we suggest using 3-5 solid colors for each side of the card. Color set for face and back can be different. CMYK offset printing is possible, but the print quality (sharpness) will be no so good.
For some elements of transparent cards, we use silk-screen printing, to increase paint thickness (to make the printed image less transparent). Silk-screen printing can be used with glittering silver or gold paint. We need at least 1 mm tolerance for silk-screen printing.

My suggestion is to collect the artworks from the Community and make a vote to choose the winner.

Can you please post photos of the cards you have mentioned along with the diff varieties in color etc etc etc? Thanks

You can find some pictures here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Bh6Z9l57mS5OdYCOvduAuAefh40LafCS (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Bh6Z9l57mS5OdYCOvduAuAefh40LafCS)

Sorry for the poor quality, it's just a few internal shots.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/01/fr8vb.jpeg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium


https://imgur.com/a/DjJ2tmE

Bitcointalk.org unfortunately does not have a distinctive logo just a generic created in SMF. However it might be possible with permission to use the logo of bitcoin.org (https://bitcoin.org/en/about-us#own):

https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/logotop.png

I converted the original SVG image to PNG. Perhaps bitcoin in the logo could just be changed to bitcointalk.org. A collaboration between the community here and Tangem would be cool! @13TNLjs3oLfvTNuyb5ZL92DkG if a limited edition card is created, perhaps a run of 1000, can the cards be serialized? I would also suggest that like the trial kit the cards be fully reusable, unlimited times, but with a printed value of 0.01 bitcoin.

The Android app can already be downloaded, and especially if reusable I think these will give Coldkey some stiff competition.

Maybe someone here has ideas for logo of the Bitcointalk?

Sure cards would be fully reusable. Serializing of the cards is an easy task. However, I think that we should not use denomination (printed value) on the cards: the cards would arrive unloaded, perhaps someone would like to load them with a different amount.

Here is an idea from a post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111005.msg51139449#msg51139449) in the thread discussing a collectible coin for the anniversary of the forum:

https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/cardart.png

Rather than a collectible coin consider 1000 serialized custom reusable Tangem cards instead.

I will try to find the designer, who can extend this into the card design.

As an option, we can make something 'boring' using our design template: https://i.ibb.co/fGcvBtz/Tangem-btt.png (https://ibb.co/tPdXkcT)

@Tangem https://i.ibb.co/fGcvBtz/Tangem-btt.png looks good if not colorful, needs to "pop". Wording should be "Celebrating 10 Years" you left off the "s". If that wizard artwork could fit on the card it should be impressive. However maybe too many colors?

Too many colors for the transparent card. We can do it on white, but we need someone to make a brand new design using the wizard picture.
The style is too different from our standard design to mix them.

I would be in for 100 @$5 each.

I don't mind the design Tangem posted but would make a couple of changes. I think the forum blue would be more suitable and the bitcointalk.org should be a little bit higher.

https://wiki.coin.community/w/images/e/e4/BCT-Tangem.jpg

I would love to see what some of the artists here could design, eg. polymerbit, papersafe etc

Original from Tangem:
https://i.ibb.co/fGcvBtz/Tangem-btt.png

I quite like the blue scheme to fit with the forum and agree on the text placement movement.

Would be interested in a good amount. Very cool project coming along here.

Although the one further detail...I'd prefer not to have the theymos quote.

10 please.

Just read the thread for the first time.  Throwing my name in the hat as a buyer as well.  Still want to see a coin come together as well.  Possibly same type design could be used for the card and the coin and be sold off as a 2 piece set.

Unfortunately, coin-making is not our business.

We can offer just a 'fake', plastic coin ;D Just received some samples. https://ibb.co/1vcY3KV (https://ibb.co/1vcY3KV)

Sure, we can change the colors and add\remove the text easily.

We are still looking forward to finding some new ideas for the design.

Agreed, I like the blue which matches the forum blue..but I'd like to see some of the artists round here step in and design something more "fun".  Glad to see this start to materialize.

that looks really close to a well made card. some changes and you should be good

I'd like to put myself as buyer for 20 please

 Cheers

Oh no issue I was just thinking as a different project run in parallel to this so that us collectors can also have a coin as well.

I'll take a "fake" plastic coin! That would actually be cool to make a limited supply to go along w/these cards. You show me a BTC collectible, and I want it  :D

Great idea! We can officially offer 50 cards as a reward for the design.

Also, as discussed in the coin thread, we can offer some cards that can be given by the moderators to the most active forum members. Let's estimate the number of cards needed.

Suggestion: maybe delete the phrase "Celebrating 10 Year of Bitcoin Talk, 2009-2019" also the stylized blooming onion bitcoin design just place the bitcoin wizard in the clean white space using as much color as possible. You could even move the bitcointalk.org to the very bottom replacing the quote to provide more clean white space for the wizard logo. I just really like the wizard:-)

https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/cardart.png

Tangem uses a closed source application and is not open source. Be careful. They could steal your keys. 
It's cheap for a reason because the product is of low quality. They could be enticing customers so they can eventually steal keys. You should not trust a third party to store your keys. They could could have copys of your keys via their app. Sounds fishy. Be Cautious. The creator of opendime has also expressed concerns about the security of tangem. Would recommend opendime instead.

I like the wizard too! :) But we cannot print him on the transparent plastic because of tech restrictions.

We can use a white card for the wizard, but we need someone with excellent drawing skills to make the card look neat.

So if it’s “closed-source”, it’s not “open-source”...got it!

Our card's security is proved by the external audit: https://research.kudelskisecurity.com/2018/08/06/audit-of-tangems-smartcard-wallet-code/amp/ (https://research.kudelskisecurity.com/2018/08/06/audit-of-tangems-smartcard-wallet-code/amp/)
We do this analysis for every firmware version used for production.

You can find some demo code sources and our iOS app on the GitHub: https://github.com/TangemCash (https://github.com/TangemCash)
Our Android app sources would be available there in the near future.

Cardano guys made a check of our cards, before placing an order. No backdoors were found.
The proof is here:
https://i.ibb.co/mR3SbPX/Cardano.jpg

Here is close to what I was thinking printed on a white card (sorry for the poor rendering, best I can do hacking an idea together:) Of course the wizard would need to be redone with fewer colors I imagine.

https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/magicinternetmoneytest.png

I think it is very cool the way it is, original without being so digitally correct.  I like it 8)

Credit to /u/mavensbot who created the wizard and originally posted (https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18smyy/ideas_for_rbitcoin_ads/c8hmtr2/?context=3) on reddit at r/bitcoin 6 years ago!

For a limited edition to sell out I think it would help to be a white card with a colorful whimsical image that pops, makes us smile and reminds us of the magic we all felt when we got into bitcoin years ago.

Perfectly stated, makes us smile and feel good, well said

Well, up to the community to decide. The 'Celebrating 10 Year of Bitcoin Talk' design is fine, I would pre-order them no problem. If one of the graphic designers here wants to work with @Tangem on a more colorful custom card that would be great also. Looking forward to trying out the Tangem notes in the trial kit I have on the way.

The Tangem cards in the trial kit actually look better in person than photos, very high tech and well made. They also function flawlessly with the Android app.

Thanks for the feedback! We will update the photos soon.
XRP and LTC cards are on the way.

Nice to know..how about some Monero cards? Cheers :D

Maybe later. Now we don't have any requests for the Monero blockchain support.

Is there any status update about those custom cards?
Did anyone go through with a custom design suggestion?
Should I assume that those will never happen? :-\

 :) You can call this new Tangen card as the following printed on the card

Tangem "Digibills beta"

What y think about this idea  :)BTC


I saw the last pic of the card it looks too professional with Tangem logo and name on the right side and also taking 1/4 of the card space/


Make it colorful. I would suggest make the Tangem logo space 1/20 and put some fun stuff on the card like COCO movie style character

Add little holographic look on the card - may be make the Tangem logo holographic around it.

Have fixed Serial number and sequential numbering on the card

It would be nicer if you give a name to the limited edition like

Limited Edition: Digibills
or
Limited Edition: 10 Years Anniversary

Y can use some drawing like this but  not exactly

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/coco-pixar-movie-1520004766.jpg?crop=1xw:1xh;center,top&resize=980:*