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Title: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: FapToBbly111 on May 20, 2019, 07:49:10 AM
Hello, I saw that my account is banned due to spam or plagiarism. I always wrote only my thoughts and created constructive posts, the last time I communicate only in one thread of the forum of the Russian locale: Analytics, analysis, forecasts. I don’t carry signatures and in my posts I didn’t intend to send spam or copy, maybe it happened by chance. After the introduction of merit, I already received more than 130 merit and I always tried to bring only useful information to the forum. Please reconsider the decision on the ban
Here is my forum profile
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1324228


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: WunderSchwein on May 20, 2019, 09:30:48 AM
i support appeal of this member. FapToBbly is a very useful member in russian local.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Bitlover10 on May 20, 2019, 04:53:13 PM
Their are two main reasons for banned account - spam or plagiarism. I was looking your profile to check if you did plagiarism or not but most of your post in Russian local board which I don't understand . I saw that you have good Marit history. Let's see if anyone can find the reason of your banned account.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Findingnemo on May 20, 2019, 05:28:54 PM
If you actively participated and contributed on German section then someone like mod or most trusted person from the section should appeal for you to the global mod then you will get reduced punishment like signature ban.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: ryzaadit on May 20, 2019, 05:29:17 PM
Maybe because of these? Due to your topic in the Russian section that was really hard to find the plagiarism.

Original :
Dear KuCoin Users,

In an attempt to remain as one of the most trustworthy and transparent exchanges in operation, KuCoin will start KYC checks on users. This measure is to ensure KuCoin remains compliant with the developing regulations in the crypto industry.

To complete your KYC check please log into your account and head to the following section: Account>KYC Verification

Here’s a Picture Of The Process Of How To Find This Section

Copy :
Dear KuCoin Users,

In an attempt to remain as one of the most trustworthy and transparent exchanges in operation, KuCoin will start enforcing KYC checks on users. This measure is to ensure KuCoin remains compliant with the developing regulations in the crypto industry.

To complete your KYC check please log into your account and head to the following section: Account>KYC Authentication

Here’s a Picture Of The Process Of How To Find This Section

Bcё, и здecь KYC пpивинтили, вoт тoлькo нe пoнятнo кaкaй минимyм мoжнo бeз вepификaции вывoдить, и мoжнo ли вooбщe.

Forget to put a link source.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: FapToBbly111 on May 20, 2019, 05:46:42 PM
Before the ban, I did not think about what plagiarism is, I just talked in the usual way, discussing interesting topics with other forum participants. Now I understand that I had to take a closer look at my posts.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: LoyceV on May 20, 2019, 05:49:55 PM
Forget to put a link source.
I wouldn't call that plagiarism, especially if FapToBbly didn't have a paid signature. It clearly says "Dear KuCoin Users", which means he could just try to share the news without trying to claim it's his own work.
The Russian sentence under it makes it even more obvious he didn't write it.

There's no source link indeed, but if this is all, it could be a honest mistake. I don't think it's good for the forum to ban users for mistakes, it'll be awfully quiet here at some point.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Lafu on May 20, 2019, 06:04:07 PM
There's no source link indeed, but if this is all, it could be a honest mistake. I don't think it's good for the forum to ban users for mistakes, it'll be awfully quiet here at some point.

Exactly and it looks like someones bot who report all the bans craps everything he get and i guess we seen it that brings alot of bans that should not be , normaly !


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Alex_Sr on May 20, 2019, 06:18:52 PM
Forget to put a link source.
I wouldn't call that plagiarism, especially if FapToBbly didn't have a paid signature. It clearly says "Dear KuCoin Users", which means he could just try to share the news without trying to claim it's his own work.
The Russian sentence under it makes it even more obvious he didn't write it.

There's no source link indeed, but if this is all, it could be a honest mistake. I don't think it's good for the forum to ban users for mistakes, it'll be awfully quiet here at some point.

+1
In the context of the dialogue that was in this topic it was clear that these words - quote. If this is the only case of plagiarism on the part FapToBbly - ban should be lifted.

P.S. Probably he received an e-mail from the exchange about the need for KYC - he posted the text of this letter in his message.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: TalkStar on May 20, 2019, 06:37:32 PM
Dear KuCoin Users,

In an attempt to remain as one of the most trustworthy and transparent exchanges in operation, KuCoin will start enforcing KYC checks on users. This measure is to ensure KuCoin remains compliant with the developing regulations in the crypto industry.

To complete your KYC check please log into your account and head to the following section: Account>KYC Authentication

Here’s a Picture Of The Process Of How To Find This Section

Bcё, и здecь KYC пpивинтили, вoт тoлькo нe пoнятнo кaкaй минимyм мoжнo бeз вepификaции вывoдить, и мoжнo ли вooбщe.

Forget to put a link source.

I think this users intention wasn't bad in that reply like he didn't copy that for a regular reply where he tried to let others know about update of kucoin. Maybe he mistakenly forgot to put the source link but just for that a plagiarism ban would not be so fair IMO. At least we should think about the real-time situation for this user. Some users make plagiarism because they are no able make replys by own or someone wants to increase their post but this user is trying to let community user know about the KYC update of Kucoin. I think this two types of users activity shouldn't be counted as same level of plagiarism.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: ryzaadit on May 20, 2019, 06:46:51 PM
-snip-

-snip-
That's why i said "Maybe", The moderator said they handling the plagiarism manually case by case but it could be some bot running into the forum and detect this post as plagiarism and report it because of the post has same paragraph/word.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: johhnyUA on May 21, 2019, 03:15:42 PM
This guy deserves for unban. It's my opinion of course. Look at his merit stats - 136 merit were received by him.
Hilary unbaned legendary user with 4 merits.
Also, as we see, he do not copypasted for signature or something.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 22, 2019, 02:49:03 AM
Before the ban, I did not think about what plagiarism is, I just talked in the usual way, discussing interesting topics with other forum participants. Now I understand that I had to take a closer look at my posts.
Sad to say OP you forget to read the rules and regulations here in the forum. YOu should remember that in every forum there are rules and regulations that is implemented so do not forget that one as an Standard Operating Procedure to check the rules and regulations in every forum or organization because this is were respect started in a certain organization to follow the rules and regulations.

Well, it is better to have you here because we learn from you for being a bad example of this forum.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: AUDI_A6 on May 23, 2019, 06:35:26 AM
This is a very useful forum member.  If to block such participants, then whom to leave?  A bunch of trash rats scammers and spammers, they should be in the first place.  These are my views.  Perhaps the owners of the forum others.  Release this helpful member of society.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: polluks on May 23, 2019, 04:03:06 PM
I confess I was very surprised and upset to learn that FapToBbly was banned for plagiarism. This is a very useful member of the Russian local branch. I always read his messages with great attention and benefit for myself. I always waited for his next messages, because unlike most forum participants, his messages were never empty sound or stupid copying of news. His thoughts have always been logical, interesting and useful and have made a great contribution to the development of our forum. I believe that the revealed fact of plagiarism occurred through negligence and was an accident. I ask the distinguished global moderators of the forum to reconsider the decision and remove the ban from FapToBbly.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Smartprofit on May 23, 2019, 06:43:01 PM
Their are two main reasons for banned account - spam or plagiarism. I was looking your profile to check if you did plagiarism or not but most of your post in Russian local board which I don't understand . I saw that you have good Marit history. Let's see if anyone can find the reason of your banned account.

I know this user. Very smart and adequate forum member. I can not understand why he was banned. I think it is necessary to understand and unban.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: johhnyUA on May 25, 2019, 08:42:31 PM
It's was quoting mistake, lol. So it will be fair to unban this user. Mods, we are waiting for your answer!
(this is not copypasta)


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: FapToBbly111 on May 29, 2019, 10:53:30 AM
I filed an appeal by writing to the post office, created a thread on the forum, but in 10 days I did not get any response. It is a pity that the forum management treats its users this way. I did not even get an answer for what I was banned.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: johhnyUA on May 30, 2019, 09:18:20 AM
I filed an appeal by writing to the post office, created a thread on the forum, but in 10 days I did not get any response. It is a pity that the forum management treats its users this way. I did not even get an answer for what I was banned.

Here is it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145164.msg51141860#msg51141860 . Few posts above.
Also:

Кaк мнe пoдcкaзaли:

Кoпия:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.
Opигинaл:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.

But as for me, i see in first case just a mistake, to insert link or quote. In second case i see the main problem of this forum: impossibility to distinguish plagiarism from "most used phrases"


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: madnessteat on May 30, 2019, 03:22:57 PM
I think johhnyUA is right.
Any user who once participated in a bounty and was promoted to the rank could write a phrase about the change of rank in this form. There are not so many options as to inform the bounty manager about the change of rank without extra words.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: wh1rlw1nd on June 02, 2019, 08:35:44 AM
I've noticed the lack of FaPToBblu' posts recently. Thought, he was on vacation or somewhere else. And what i see - he was banned, lol! Just for one phrase, which is typically used for noticing about forum rank promoting. This is definitely not a plagiarism. FaPToBbl'u is one of the most promising new (relatevely) users, he is polite, friendly and shares useful information in rus section, doesn't flood senseless stuff.
No way he should be banned. Please, unban. If you want to keep good atmosphere in RUS local section, you should KEEP those kind of users!!


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: be.open on July 16, 2019, 04:46:24 AM
I support the performance of the previous speaker, I don't understand the reason for FapToBbly's ban, this is a distinctive forum character who has his own point of view and expresses his personal opinion, which is not a compilation or a copy of other people's thoughts. Plz unban him, tnx.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: madnessteat on July 19, 2019, 02:29:56 PM
Dear global moderators, please check FapToBbly's messages for which he was banned. Most users believe that these messages cannot be considered as plagiarism FapToBbly just made a mistake in the design of citation. We are all waiting for this story to collapse in FapToBbly's favor.

#freeFapToBbly


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: jokers10 on August 05, 2019, 03:02:59 PM
Unlike most others who supported FapToBbly, I don't know him himself. I just want to say why he should be unbanned at my opinion.

I think that both examples cited in this topic should not be considered as plagiarism:

— In the first case quoting text in English and commenting in Russian makes it definitely understood, that text in English is a quote. I understood it without any explanation.
— The second case is about situation similar to the filling of a form. It is expected that a technical message would be standard. If you fill a form you would usually use the same grammatical constructions as others, it is formal. The most simple things which are reproduced occasionally and easily by anyone are mot protected by copyright and repeating them should not be considered as plagiarism.

So, at my point of view, FapToBbly should be unbanned.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Sancho18 on October 04, 2019, 05:52:19 AM
I want to express my surprise why the issue of appeal has been considered for so long? Is it really so difficult for an administration to make a decision? Who benefits from delaying the question and hanging it in an uncertain state?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: TryNinja on October 04, 2019, 05:55:55 AM
"It's all in the bump!"

This guy was banned for missquoting, so it will be good to unban him or even signature ban will be good enough. Admins, don't be silent!
Wasn’t he banned because of this case you quoted previously, and not the exchange misquote?

Кaк мнe пoдcкaзaли:

Кoпия:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.
Opигинaл:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.

I sincerity doubt this is just a case of “common phrases” coincidence. Same format, pontuations, etc... literally the exact same text.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Sancho18 on October 04, 2019, 06:15:26 AM
"It's all in the bump!"

This guy was banned for missquoting, so it will be good to unban him or even signature ban will be good enough. Admins, don't be silent!
Wasn’t he banned because of this case you quoted previously, and not the exchange misquote?

Кaк мнe пoдcкaзaли:

Кoпия:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.
Opигинaл:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.

I sincerity doubt this is just a case of “common phrases” coincidence. Same format, pontuations, etc... literally the exact same text.

I think the root of the problem here is that the FapToBbly does not speaking English well, and when he tried to inform the English-speaking manager about the change of rank, he had difficulty correctly formulating his request on his own. This is hardly a case of malicious cheating, someone just needed to study better at school, but is this an excuse to forbid someone to continue to be an active member of the community? Or only good English speaking people can claim a place under the Sun in the future? :)


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: r1d1 on October 05, 2019, 06:20:17 AM
Please, unban FapToBbly.

I understand that formally there is a violation. But you need to consider whether there is malicious intent, whether there is a hidden benefit.
They are not here. He didn't try to pass off other people's thoughts as his own; he made a purely technical message about the change in rank.
Plus, usually posts in the bounty topic are not counted in the campaign. Given that he doesn't speak English well, it is not surprising that he copied a ready-made phrase.
When making a decision, courts should take into account not only the fact of violation, but also the circumstances of the case.
I consider the punishment not proportional to the act. And it's a loss for the forum.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Chikito on October 05, 2019, 10:06:55 AM
"It's all in the bump!"
This guy was banned for missquoting, so it will be good to unban him or even signature ban will be good enough. Admins, don't be silent!
You Must delete the previous bump before making a new bump
21. Old bumps should be deleted. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_rules)


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: johhnyUA on October 05, 2019, 01:19:19 PM
You Must delete the previous bump before making a new bump
21. Old bumps should be deleted. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_rules)


My bumps too poetic and epic to be deleted. Also, it divided by another person quote. I don't see anything bad.  

Wasn’t he banned because of this case you quoted previously, and not the exchange misquote?

Кaк мнe пoдcкaзaли:

Кoпия:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.
Opигинaл:
I would like to inform you that I am no longer junior member but a member. I have changed my signature accordingly.

I sincerity doubt this is just a case of “common phrases” coincidence. Same format, pontuations, etc... literally the exact same text.

The problem that is "common phrase" in meaning not as phrase that are using very often, but in meaning that this obviously were done without any bad or venal intent. Maybe he was lazy at that moment, and just copypaste to show that his is not more a junior member.

Also, i talked about this message - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145164.msg51141860#msg51141860


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: MoxnatyShmel on November 05, 2019, 09:31:18 AM
Bump


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly
Post by: Zuzma on November 16, 2019, 10:11:37 AM
Dear moderator

I apologize for my poor knowledge of English

Please unban user FapToBbly  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1324228
I understand that because of the language barrier, it’s hard for you to study the profile of this user. over such a long period of time no additional evidence of his violations was provided.
You recently unban my profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196229.0
 his violation of the rules of this forum is much smaller than mine
I ask you to review his ban, he was a good user of the Russian locale.

Best regards

Zuzma