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Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: franky1 on May 23, 2019, 08:44:01 PM


https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ04.pdf

"When document is accompanied by electronic title list:
$7      Correction of online public catalog data  due to erroneous electronic title submission (per title)"

any american got $7?


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: Ailmand on May 23, 2019, 11:50:54 PM
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A few days ago he crossed the line by filing a copyright for the bitcoin whitepaper, considered sacred for many, this has caused many gullible people to invest in the so called "real bitcoin", Bitcoin SV, by making Craig Wright, the creator of Bitcoin SV look like Satoshi.

Craig Wright is sneaky, but a lot of people know that bitcoin core is the only and real bitcoin, his claim of being satoshi won't do a thing, even if how many copyrights and proof he shows, everyone knows that Craig is a fraud, only fools would believe that Craig is satoshi and bitcoin SV is the real deal.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: Shova on May 24, 2019, 02:19:32 AM
I don't think a change.org petition would do anything when copyright is entirely a law based issue.
If you really want to remove the name, you should start a lawsuit. I don't think a mass pressure can lead to change in laws unless its a civil war.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: pooya87 on May 24, 2019, 02:23:02 AM
Craig Wright is sneaky, but a lot of people know that bitcoin core is the only and real bitcoin,

there is no such coin as "bitcoin core", the name is "bitcoin" without any additional words appended to it. the name "bitcoin core" is the name of the full node implementation of bitcoin aka the client. i think you should stop reading /r/btc and bitcoin.com


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: jseverson on May 24, 2019, 02:25:45 AM
Does he actually own copyright now? Wasn't that just a claim, which could still be denied? I'm genuinely confused. It's pretty ridiculous how so many people are talking about this, but there are no real facts being published. All I could find out is that he's a claimant.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: mk4 on May 24, 2019, 03:29:19 AM
Unfortunately though, as far as I know, petitions like this really doesn't do crap. It just really shows how many supporters a cause or whatever has; and beyond that? Pretty much nothing.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: figmentofmyass on May 24, 2019, 04:53:47 AM
Unfortunately though, as far as I know, petitions like this really doesn't do crap. It just really shows how many supporters a cause or whatever has; and beyond that? Pretty much nothing.

yeah, i truly wonder if any change.org petitions have ever accomplished anything. i'm sure it'll do nothing in this case.

the copyright office already said these issues are disputed in the courts; it's not their problem. they just keep records when people register copyrights.

owning these copyrights is useless anyway, whoever wants to claim they are satoshi. the code was all already released as open source.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: Kakmakr on May 24, 2019, 05:31:40 AM
Anyone can dispute his claims at a minimal cost, so it is not a big issue. I still think the heavy weights in the industry should stand together and file a lawsuit against Craig Wright and the community should help to fund the cost of this case to crush any rumours that Craig Wright <FakeToshi> is Satoshi Nakamoto.

He will just go on and on, until the law stop him and he has money to burn on expensive lawyers.  >:(


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: Genemind on May 24, 2019, 05:44:28 AM
Craig Wright is just taking advantage of Satoshi's choice to hide his real identity. He's gaining the fame that he wants in pretending to be someone else. I guess this kind of person needs to be ignored and if he never stops, he should be taught a lesson. However, he's not affecting the market situation in all his dramas. He doesn't have to be in the mainstream.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: joniboini on May 24, 2019, 05:55:16 AM
yeah, i truly wonder if any change.org petitions have ever accomplished anything. i'm sure it'll do nothing in this case.

https://www.change.org/impact

They claimed that some of their petition pushed government or the related parties to do what the petitions demanded. However, most of them happened years after the petition was made. So even if your petition has enough support, it's still not clear whether that will be enough to make the government or anyone follows what was demanded. It's certainly not the appropriate way to demand something like this.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: okala on May 24, 2019, 06:03:24 AM
Well any one can have the copyright of any documents as long as he/she go online with the copyright laws, and Craig is a guy that know too much at that he is making himself popular with all this santoshi claims but the fact still remains that santoshi does not see all this as important and at that remains anonymous.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: bhabygrim on May 24, 2019, 06:04:20 AM
Craig Wright is just taking advantage of Satoshi's choice to hide his real identity. He's gaining the fame that he wants in pretending to be someone else. I guess this kind of person needs to be ignored and if he never stops, he should be taught a lesson. However, he's not affecting the market situation in all his dramas. He doesn't have to be in the mainstream.
Yes and because he knows that Satoshi doesn't really want publicity and stay anonymous.
He is just making this scene since he knows that the real creator would just stay hidden or is it his own way to provoke the real one to come out and be known by the public?


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: xvids on May 24, 2019, 06:32:55 AM
Craig Wright is just taking advantage of Satoshi's choice to hide his real identity. He's gaining the fame that he wants in pretending to be someone else. I guess this kind of person needs to be ignored and if he never stops, he should be taught a lesson. However, he's not affecting the market situation in all his dramas. He doesn't have to be in the mainstream.
Yes and because he knows that Satoshi doesn't really want publicity and stay anonymous.
He is just making this scene since he knows that the real creator would just stay hidden or is it his own way to provoke the real one to come out and be known by the public?
What if your theory is correct? What if in the very start Craig Wright was just doing this public stance to get Satoshi out .
But if this is all an act then I also think that Satoshi would just be laughing while watching this.
And Satoshi would just remain silent because He/She/They doesn't want to be known and just stay mysterious.
Just think about it why would Satoshi keep his/her/their personal identity from the very beginning and clean all of the things that could track him if he would just shows up in the future?


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: buwaytress on May 24, 2019, 06:38:34 AM
Why bother, really? Some guy in UK's got the trademark rights to the Bitcoin name, some guy in the US now has got the copyright to the white paper. Big deal. This is the open source community who understand and respect the intentions of Bitcoin code. It belongs to all and always has. Don't need no visionary outlook to get that straight.

Leave their antics to themselves. People are smarter than they seem (I want to believe that haha) and they'll come around to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: CryptoBry on May 24, 2019, 07:20:46 AM
I don't think a change.org petition would do anything when copyright is entirely a law based issue. If you really want to remove the name, you should start a lawsuit. I don't think a mass pressure can lead to change in laws unless its a civil war.

What I learned is that the copyright claim filing by Craig Wright in U.S. Copyright Office can be disputed. This can be the best time to act on this because we don't want Craig Wright to win the copyright by default. I think that if there be a counter-claim then it can be put into record and they will let the court decide on the matter. I am hoping there will be a group that can tackle on this and I am sure that if they will be asking for small donations many will share.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: CBANX Ltd. on May 24, 2019, 07:32:13 AM
Bitcoin is a treasure and everyone want to own it by either of the ways, Satoshi has done his part of work and handover Bitcoin to the world just like its nature "Decentralized" and so, a single entity cannot establish their right on it.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: mk4 on May 24, 2019, 11:02:12 AM
the copyright office already said these issues are disputed in the courts; it's not their problem. they just keep records when people register copyrights.

Exactly. They're not going to remove or revoke the copyright just because a good number of people that submitted their email on a website wants to. That's simply not how stuff works as far as I know, especially when talking about things that involves the government.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: dothebeats on May 24, 2019, 12:03:56 PM
I don't think anyone will have the time and energy to file a dispute on the copyrights of bitcoin. CSW don't have the power over the whole bitcoin domain even though he was granted that right. Also, people know that the real Satoshi would never do the same thing as this fake one is acting. Bitcoin should remain decentralized, free from any governing/ruling authority, and that's what it is right now, albeit the works and antics of a crazy clown.

They're not going to remove or revoke the copyright just because a good number of people that submitted their email on a website wants to. That's simply not how stuff works as far as I know, especially when talking about things that involves the government.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is true. No matter how many signatures are collected against the filing of copyrights made by CSW, disputes should still be settled in courts with due process.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: traderethereum on May 24, 2019, 12:17:17 PM
Why bother, really? Some guy in UK's got the trademark rights to the Bitcoin name, some guy in the US now has got the copyright to the white paper. Big deal. This is the open source community who understand and respect the intentions of Bitcoin code. It belongs to all and always has. Don't need no visionary outlook to get that straight.

Leave their antics to themselves. People are smarter than they seem (I want to believe that haha) and they'll come around to Bitcoin.
Yeah, people will have their own opinion related to what Craig Wright says to public.
And if some guy in UK's and some guy in the US has got the copyright, then they need to meet Craig Wright to discuss who will be the true person who has got the copyright hahaha ;D
Open source community doesn't belong to one person only but it belongs to all people in the community, and it's strange if Craig Wright still trying to prove that he is the real one.
I guess he has another reason to do that.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: AB de Royse777 on May 24, 2019, 12:38:28 PM
Craig Wright is sneaky, but a lot of people know that bitcoin core is the only and real bitcoin,

there is no such coin as "bitcoin core", the name is "bitcoin" without any additional words appended to it. the name "bitcoin core" is the name of the full node implementation of bitcoin aka the client. i think you should stop reading /r/btc and bitcoin.com
"bitcoin core" is the misleading term for Roger Ver to establish his bCash shit. Bitcoin is Bitcoin, we all know about it so no need to add any extra words to separate it from Bitcoin Cash.

Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin.

Consider this:
The site name is Bitcoin.com but they are pushing BCH and they know they have to explain what is BCH so bringing Bitcoin was necessary. Now if they call Bitcoin only Bitcoin instead calling it "Bitcoin Core" then this will conflict them to push BCH since the site name is bitcoin.com. So they came up with this misleading term "Bitcoin core" to introduce the Bitcoin itself.

It's a trap for newbies to sell their BCH.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: Sithara007 on May 24, 2019, 12:50:07 PM
This online petitions are not going to have any effect. If you really want to challenge the copyright, then we need to launch a legal challenge. But the problem here is that the legal challenge needs to be done by the original author of the whitepaper. When we don't know about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, how we are going to do that?


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: Pursuer on May 24, 2019, 01:47:36 PM
the copyright office already said these issues are disputed in the courts; it's not their problem. they just keep records when people register copyrights.

Exactly. They're not going to remove or revoke the copyright just because a good number of people that submitted their email on a website wants to. That's simply not how stuff works as far as I know, especially when talking about things that involves the government.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

the only way that this can work is if the person whose identity is being stolen or copyright's infringed, to step forward and file a complaint with US copyright office indicating that his work and identity is being stolen by an imposter. and we all know Satoshi has remained anonymous for whatever reason and he will never come out for something this small.


Title: Re: Petition to remove Craig Wright's name from Bitcoin Whitepaper's copyright
Post by: tsaroz on May 24, 2019, 01:53:17 PM
the copyright office already said these issues are disputed in the courts; it's not their problem. they just keep records when people register copyrights.

Exactly. They're not going to remove or revoke the copyright just because a good number of people that submitted their email on a website wants to. That's simply not how stuff works as far as I know, especially when talking about things that involves the government.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

the only way that this can work is if the person whose identity is being stolen or copyright's infringed, to step forward and file a complaint with US copyright office indicating that his work and identity is being stolen by an imposter. and we all know Satoshi has remained anonymous for whatever reason and he will never come out for something this small.

And satoshi is highly unlikely to do that. But there are still many ways the authorities can research about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto or at least find impostors and make them pay for their fake claims. Whatever people may claim at the moment, time would make their hype disappear while the true legend would always remain a legend.