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Title: Hack any wallet? Post by: jjjfff on June 01, 2019, 03:54:01 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet.
If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Adriano2010 on June 01, 2019, 04:06:17 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? You can try random words on passphrase but will not work because only some words in some orders will generate a wallet, so is even hard than you think to can generate a wallet where are crypto coins. And there are some people who put extra word on passphrase and will be even hard to get a valid one, and also there are hardware wallets who give 24 words passphrase. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: akamit on June 01, 2019, 04:54:41 PM It is just impossible as far as I can think.
You need trillions & trillions of words checking to make a combination first then need another check to make the words in the correct order. All of the efforts above is just to hack one wallet and there will be no guarantee the hacker will success. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: ahmia39 on June 01, 2019, 05:03:09 PM Scrambling 12 words to find someone else's wallet will take a lot of time, because we won't get it right away, if people don't have a special job then they can try it, who knows if it works, I haven't tried it myself. ;D
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: rachman mahesa on June 01, 2019, 05:15:53 PM Scrambling 12 words to find someone else's wallet will take a lot of time, because we won't get it right away, if people don't have a special job then they can try it, who knows if it works, I haven't tried it myself. ;D It will definitely take a lot of time and it might not be just 1-2 tries. I definitely have to do a lot of experiments. And after finding the combination and the contents in the wallet did not exist. Of course it will be frustrating because the wallet that we crack with the combination does not have assets and what happens is just waste time and entertainment. :DTitle: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Lizzylove1 on June 01, 2019, 05:18:37 PM This is definitely impossible, even if it's gotten correctly (which in real case it's totally impossible) the sequential arrangement will eternally be wrong. As such it's a dead end adventure.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Little Mouse on June 01, 2019, 05:24:04 PM That's not that easy if you are thinking of. For getting a seed with millions of holding, you need to bruteforce couple of millions of seed which will take your life. People are not so much dumb.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: davis196 on June 01, 2019, 05:28:46 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? There are brute force attack software versions that are used to crack passwords just by guessing random letters and numbers.I think that such software would need years to generate the correct 12 word combination. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: bL4nkcode on June 01, 2019, 05:44:30 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? There are brute force attack software versions that are used to crack passwords just by guessing random letters and numbers.I think that such software would need years to generate the correct 12 word combination. You can take a look on this thread from technical discussions, there are some who did the maths here on How can electrum seed be secure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1623339.0) and How HD wallet works for back ups? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1606740.msg16154287#msg16154287) Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: LuckyBtc on June 01, 2019, 05:44:39 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? There are brute force attack software versions that are used to crack passwords just by guessing random letters and numbers.I think that such software would need years to generate the correct 12 word combination. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: akamit on June 01, 2019, 05:46:23 PM There are brute force attack software versions that are used to crack passwords just by guessing random letters and numbers.I think that such software would need years to generate the correct 12 word combination. Password and Seed Words are two different things if I'm not mistaken. OP is talking to break through the 12 words seed to hack a wallet. However, to break a 10 character password that uses letters, numbers, and symbols, such as "%ZBGbv]8g?" it would take 289217 years. This would take about 3 years on a supercomputer or botnet. This is a good read (https://thycotic.force.com/support/s/article/Calculating-Password-Complexity) IMO. The above calculation is taken from the mentioned article. edit: I do use over 16 characters in all my passwords, now I'm wondering how long it may take. Edit 2: Below is also a good read to gain some knowledge - Thanks to bL4nkcode for pointing to that thread. No, it would take much too long to bruteforce. The seed is very secure and it has a lot of entropy. Finding a 12 words phrase with words in the english dictionnary shouldn't take to long for an algorithm. What is making the seed secure? I'll discuss BIP39 here as that is what most wallets use for generated the seed, but some don't. A 12 word seed is secure in the same way that a 12 character random passphrase is secure. In fact, it is even more secure than a 12 character random passphrase, due to the fact that there are 2048 possible words for each of the 12 words instead of less than 100 possible characters for the 12 characters in a 12 character passphrase. BIP39 uses 2048 possible words for each of the twelve words. That's 5444517870735015415413993718908291383296 possible combinations of 12 word seeds. Furthermore, BIP39 specifies that the seed can be in any of 7 langauges (AFAIK the seed has to be in the same language). So if you don't know the language, that's 38111625095145107907897956032358039683072 possible combinations. That is a lot of possible seeds to have to search through, and it would take much too long to search for that. what do yiou mean by a lot of entropy? Entropy here means randomness. The seed is based upon a completely random master private key. Additional randomness is added by hashing parts of said key and used in the seed phrase. Since the phrase is essentially completely random, there are no patterns or easy to guess things that usually make brute forcing a password easier.Edit: Math Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: MUG1WARA on June 01, 2019, 05:49:51 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. maybe if you are lucky you can find it but it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, but I think doing something like that is just a waste of timeIf you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: dainoran on June 01, 2019, 06:00:15 PM I don't think that will work because there are many word combinations that will be needed to complete it. unless you have a trick that can be used it can also be used.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Jonking on June 01, 2019, 06:01:49 PM guessing a 12 word seed just to hack a wallet is impossible.. i would not even dare to do that.. ;D ;D.. if there is a pattern maybe it would work..but guessing randomly no
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: jjjfff on June 01, 2019, 06:06:47 PM OK thanks for all the replies.
So I realize the combinations are absurdly large. Theoretical question here: isn't every 12 word combination a valid wallet using the valid words? By simply concatenating the words randomly I can create a wallet. Right? Wrong? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: DeepChipolino on June 01, 2019, 06:16:18 PM Right.
Suppose that only lowercase Latin letters are used. For example, I often write my own combination, such as lanufqjpdwjufbyqdbwkwffpvnxsdfcdgsufwtrfaiofbreebtfpjef. Combinations more than stars ;). Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: sri.bima on June 01, 2019, 08:01:02 PM Doing hacking is something that is disturbing and harmful is not it? What if we experience hacking? Of course we will be sad, confused, angry and feeling disappointed. My question is simple, how much time will it be spent random and why do we do it? For me, something is impossible. I think there are still other positive activities that are more useful.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: livingfree on June 01, 2019, 08:56:41 PM Hitting a random seed through brute force? I don't think that it's very possible to happen. Yes, some may say that you can actually hit someone's seed by accident if you're going to try but for how long?
Theoretical question here: isn't every 12 word combination a valid wallet using the valid words? There are 24 words and more than that too.Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mickey_miner on June 01, 2019, 09:40:40 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. At this point in time, this is exactly unrealistic, but I think in the future there will be computers that can quickly pick up the words and hack wallets.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: cytpoway121 on June 01, 2019, 11:20:04 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? It is very much harder to generate 12 correlating words to get a random account That’s why it’s safe and secure using such paper wallet And the opportunity to stumble on an existing wallet is 1 in a billion Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: asepsetiawan1990 on June 02, 2019, 12:45:41 AM Indeed many people are willing to do this to get results. But in my view, there are still many good ways to have results from the world of cryptocurrency. My experience is that my carelessness sent the private number to the bounty listing, there was someone who took advantage of it, indeed it was my own carelessness, but I didn't think about it, even though I had moved the wallet and left a little, but the contents were taken too.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Godstrength on June 02, 2019, 01:56:34 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Yeah, the odds are crazy and almost impossible to break. Some of the comments here do have a point but as someone who's holding a lot of their savings in 1 wallet, you will always have these thinking that its still possible for someone to do it. Hardware wallets, I would say, are the best thing you can have to get the utmost security you want for your coins. Mine has 2-f authentication to complete before you make any transaction and can store collectibles (http://ecomi.com?utm_source=ecomilx), just for fun! It's not really that bad to invest around 90~100USD for a wallet that can help you have an ease of mind. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: tsaroz on June 02, 2019, 02:07:03 AM As everything is random, there can be random chances of getting the words correct in the first try. But its chances are very very low.
But as all of the wallets use just dictionary words, a dictionary bruteforce with multiple of computers may result in some wallets to open. But again that wallet may have coin or might be empty. You'd have greater chances wining a lottrey. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: bolshojkush on June 02, 2019, 03:50:29 AM Theoretically, if there is a specific list of words from which the recovery phrase is formed, you can try to hack. But I think that the list is randomly updated with new words and therefore no chance.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Pffrt on June 02, 2019, 03:58:30 AM You think you are clever, if it was truely possible and worth the time you must have to spend to find out the correct seed, a lot of people would do it before you. Bruteforce doesn't work that much of easy.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: PuertoLibre on June 02, 2019, 04:04:25 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. I wish you good luck, it is even disgusting for me calculating the possibility of calculating all word combinations in the dictionary. Instead of wasting your time, learn the trading and make more BTC with your skills. In theory, it can be possible but reality slaps hard.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: jrrsparkles on June 02, 2019, 04:45:19 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. As per the calculation it will take more than hundred years to find the right combination of recovery seeds so don't think it will come easy just like you mentioned and most of the online password generator don't create the same combination again if once it was made.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mr_random on June 02, 2019, 05:31:09 AM I never thought about writing random seed words to the Bitcoin wallet but it is almost impossible to guess the right combination. In my opinion, you can use the most commonly used word list for having a stroke of better luck. Only luck can help if you want to find a BTC on random wallets.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Callanta787 on June 02, 2019, 05:33:24 AM I know someone who tried this for weeks ,he got nothing and I think wallets are well planned in the first place ,it won't be easy to get a right combination phrase for wallets
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Herbert2020 on June 02, 2019, 06:11:22 AM I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? the number of grains of sand on earth is also astronomical. if i choose 1 grain, in theory if you keep going through every single grain you might eventually stumble upon that 1 grain that i chose but practically you will die before you even go through a tiny percentage of them. one thing is for sure, you can not call this a "hack any wallet" thing. this is something that can not happen in a million years. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: babicena14 on June 02, 2019, 06:26:02 AM Theoretically, you can do this only if you live a million years and will not be interrupted to sort out the words. But in fact it is impossible, the only way to get someone else's passphrase from the wallet is social engineering, followed by access to the storage of the phrase.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: stadus on June 02, 2019, 06:44:13 AM That would be a waste of time, better focus in earning money in a legit way.
If that can be done, it would have been done in the past and we can clearly see a lot of complains regarding hack wallets. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: viljy on June 02, 2019, 06:48:52 AM In theory, you'll find a wallet with millions. All cryptography is based on probabilistic proofs but not strictly mathematical proofs. Theoretically, you can even find two different private keys to the same address. But practically all this is impossible without a quantum computer.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Dellosoft on June 02, 2019, 06:59:50 AM This will never work, you might try it for a whole year and literally you will be stressing out yourself without any result. The mnemonic words are highly advanced than you think, you don't just guess some words and it works, never that. Have you ever heard someone say "I managed to hack a wallet by trying out combination of words" ? Not possible
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: deodivine1 on June 02, 2019, 08:06:45 AM No matter how hard you try, it's almost impossible to guess mnemonic or private keys with word combinations. Many have tried that and it prove abortive, so don't waste your time.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: wesk1212 on June 02, 2019, 08:08:39 AM purely theoretically, any wallet can be hacked into the matter in that you need to know which wallet to break and you need to understand that it will take a lot of time.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: dataispower on June 02, 2019, 08:45:22 AM Do you think if guessing word combinations will lead to wallet hacks, that crypto will still exist? It's not possible to merely guess mnemonic phrases, don't even try it, it's total waste of time.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Apes on June 02, 2019, 08:56:49 AM in theory it's true. but this is random method, you cannot determine which wallet you are aiming for, maybe the wallet that you are headed for has not been created. and how much time will you waste for targeting wallet that filled with fund. so forget it.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mrdeposit on June 02, 2019, 12:57:10 PM Do you think it is easy to find out about 12 unrelated words from the dictionary? I do not think so. If it was easy, the majority had begun to crack the wallets. I find the calculation about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6twuj1/are_12word_seeds_for_bitcoin_private_keys_secure/
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: stigmacryptonight on June 02, 2019, 01:02:43 PM I'm sure people here have tried it but failed because of the stress of doing so. Because this can indeed be done but very little comparison of its success. So it's better to do other things far more important. Compared to splitting these codes.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: dizzy1996 on June 02, 2019, 01:29:46 PM Maybe it is possible, but the chance is still quite small, since 12 words to restore the wallet are arranged in a chaotic manner and it can take dozens of years to pick up the necessary combination, but there is no need if you are a hacker and you have a program for compiling these words is certainly another matter .
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Chomsy on June 02, 2019, 02:12:49 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? This post shouldn't be tolerate to stand. So, does it mean you are encouraging wallet hack? That's so bad. Moderators should remove such post please. Do you think if guessing word combinations will lead to wallet hacks, that crypto will still exist? It's not possible to merely guess mnemonic phrases, don't even try it, it's total waste of time. Exactly.. Am just concerned for people that will go aged to try seeing such post. Let them be happy wasting their time. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: jjjfff on June 02, 2019, 03:37:15 PM Activate 2fa so you are the one who can open your wallet here in crypto Then to avoid hack or scam use trusted already like we have different wallets here without accusation Another thing cryptocurrency create for saving money in our own place and without regulator like this is run for long like that That doesn't make sense. Native wallets have no 2FA. So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? It is very much harder to generate 12 correlating words to get a random account That’s why it’s safe and secure using such paper wallet And the opportunity to stumble on an existing wallet is 1 in a billion 1 in a billion can be tested in a few seconds So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Yeah, the odds are crazy and almost impossible to break. Some of the comments here do have a point but as someone who's holding a lot of their savings in 1 wallet, you will always have these thinking that its still possible for someone to do it. Hardware wallets, I would say, are the best thing you can have to get the utmost security you want for your coins. Mine has 2-f authentication to complete before you make any transaction and can store collectibles (http://ecomi.com?utm_source=ecomilx), just for fun! It's not really that bad to invest around 90~100USD for a wallet that can help you have an ease of mind. Hardware wallets use the same kind of keys as software wallets. If you stumble upon a key using software, then you don't need to access the hardware to get the funds out. Theoretically, if there is a specific list of words from which the recovery phrase is formed, you can try to hack. But I think that the list is randomly updated with new words and therefore no chance. That's right. I was looking at the source code for a popular crypto and it's fixed list. No you cannot change the words otherwise you'd break the previous existing wallets. The word list is static. You think you are clever, if it was truely possible and worth the time you must have to spend to find out the correct seed, a lot of people would do it before you. Bruteforce doesn't work that much of easy. I don't think I'm clever, I'm asking a theoretical question. I never thought about writing random seed words to the Bitcoin wallet but it is almost impossible to guess the right combination. In my opinion, you can use the most commonly used word list for having a stroke of better luck. Only luck can help if you want to find a BTC on random wallets. Not Bitcoin, but others like Cardano. They use 12 words and the word list is fixed. I wonder how secure that is. purely theoretically, any wallet can be hacked into the matter in that you need to know which wallet to break and you need to understand that it will take a lot of time. That's what I think too but doing it randomly maybe you'll stumble upon a billionaire wallet.... I wonder if anyone is doing this out there? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Ucy on June 02, 2019, 06:29:25 PM I guess it will require extraordinarily amount of computer power to guess the right combination of words for any address. It will require greater computer power to guess a specific address.
It will require infinite amounts of computer power to hack all the addresses. So, who will waste his time trying this. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: danielchris on June 02, 2019, 06:51:22 PM The hacker's apply to different types of method for hacking. Anything is possible in this world.but we should be always aware & apply our password too difficult for security.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on June 02, 2019, 07:48:38 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Hilarious, it depends on which wallet you want to try your "Passphrase random generation on" will it be for coinomi, imtoken, trustwallet, kcash, GXChain wallet and hundreds of others. Maybe you have to pick them one by one.. Its almost an impossible task but then, anything is possible with numbers and algorithms Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: olamidey on June 02, 2019, 08:10:14 PM Choosing literally words from the phrase is a bit difficult. Intact getting a PIN is easier than the phrase of a wallet. Hacking is not that easy. Takes so much effort and in some cases, hacks have zero gains. It's just some coding and text file cloning that makes hacks successful and also greedy guys who want millions of dollars overnight.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Classica35 on June 02, 2019, 09:52:54 PM I thought of something different sometimes ago, that apart from the passphrase, you could try to do some permutations and combinations on the private key of a wallet to generate another address and eventually get a wallet with funds. This is not what i would want to do though, because it's as good as saying that such person is a scammer, because you are looking forth to rip from where you did not sow.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: jjjfff on June 03, 2019, 01:09:40 AM I thought of something different sometimes ago, that apart from the passphrase, you could try to do some permutations and combinations on the private key of a wallet to generate another address and eventually get a wallet with funds. This is not what i would want to do though, because it's as good as saying that such person is a scammer, because you are looking forth to rip from where you did not sow. My intention is also not to hack anyone. Just a curiosity. One thing I saw a lot of people get wrong in this thread: wallets come with a predefined set of words. It's not random words from the dictionary. The words you can use are actually limited. Just look at the source code for popular wallets and you'll find a file like words.txt or something. So you'd be choosing words from there, not from the universal dictionary. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: SistaFista on June 03, 2019, 12:47:49 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Your opinion seems plausible. But do you know how much possibilities to get all combinations? If you search google how many words are in English dictionary, you will find about 170k ++ words. So all combinations = 170k ^ 12 = 5.82622237229761e+62 . Too much combinations ::) Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Convery on June 03, 2019, 12:58:46 PM There are so many combination that you will not find the right answer even if you tried all your life.
Simply, spend your time by doing something valuable. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Bitze on June 03, 2019, 01:23:25 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? every man-made software can have errors. every code can be cracked. but it's a question of time and effort until it happens. i feel very safe with the known protections :) Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: oli123 on June 03, 2019, 01:37:12 PM I think it is a very demanding activity, there are very many word combinations. Even if you find the right passphrase combination, many wallets require a password to appear. So there are countless wrong combinations and only one right.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: iancortis on June 03, 2019, 01:49:55 PM Yes it is possible, only for this it will take many years. Maybe your great-grandchildren will find such phrases, you have to start the program now. lol :).. by the way, that is healthy mind mate. i think there's nothing wrong on what you've thinking for. and maybe you got lucky like betting in lottery and to be win jackpot price. wish you luck mate! Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: seoincorporation on June 03, 2019, 01:58:56 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Is't just about the words, is about the order of those words too, so, with the same 12 words you could have 12! combinations... 12*11*10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2 and that's 479001600 combinations with the same 12 words. now you will understand why is impossible to guess a wallet even with brute force. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: puertorikosena on June 03, 2019, 02:23:16 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. The idea is certainly interesting. Theoretically this is possible. But it will take so much time that it will be faster for you to earn these millions yourself. I wish you luck :)If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Febo on June 03, 2019, 02:28:31 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? It seems you skipped math while in school. Try this one. divide table on 12 spots then place on them tiny stones. on first spot place 1 stone on second 2 stones on third 4 stones on fourth 16 stones on fifth 256 stones on sixth 65536 stones. Hmm I guess we need bigger table :) Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: jems on June 03, 2019, 03:43:42 PM It can be done but with the many words we have to try will make us look like a fool. For me it is truly a waste of time and if we only managed to find a wallet containing millions, I would not be that brave to take someone else's.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Malam90 on June 03, 2019, 04:10:56 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? It is impossible to match from millions of words. If you set 2FA for any wallet, you have been given 12 words that are only for you. If you lost, you will never recover it even if you try to match by implementing your techniques. It should be saved. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: ilhamsugihamin on June 03, 2019, 05:24:54 PM for me, hacking a crypto wallet is very difficult to do because I have never tried it and if I try it, I will give up. The crypto wallet's private keys are very complicated and difficult to learn, only professionals who can and hackers.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: r_delossa on June 03, 2019, 05:57:56 PM Everything is possible my friend, especially in the age of internet. Install an anti virus software and try to avoid sharing your information on telegram and e-mails. Moreover, make a 2FA security on every exchange or wallet where it is possible to be safe.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: jvdp on June 03, 2019, 06:03:16 PM We do not need to worry about phrase combination or anything while you have the private key, .json file, wallet.dat file or phrase.
Wallet can be hacked when any of these combinations are well known to the concern hackers, sometime the keyboard can be traced and access your wallet but with this information, you are nothing gonna do with the keypad so we will not be hacked for sure. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: therhslv on June 03, 2019, 06:03:27 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Kinda true , but its almost impossible to guess it . Its same compared that you won the lottery 7 times in row :) Imagine small letters , big letters , numbers and symbols , it can be anything . Ofcourse there is ways to guess some wallets that was created using generators . Some people did type easy rememberable passwords and it generated private key based on that password . So if you find some private key generator and type same password it will generate same private key that other person did i think , but not 100% sure about that . Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: BryanK on June 03, 2019, 06:28:50 PM I don't think this procedure is possible with our technical capacity. It is difficult to sort through a billion number of combinations. But in the future, this procedure will be theoretically possible.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: silver23 on June 03, 2019, 06:32:57 PM you right 12 word is possible to get hack, i more like that have private key code with number and capital word.
it more safe i think and have file to unlock wallet. that's why i choose MEW to be my wallet i used for now. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Zdraste16 on June 03, 2019, 06:51:05 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. Even if it happens that you manage to pick up 12 or 24 words from the phrase, which is very unlikely. In the end, you will not be able to use the millions in this wallet at least without serious further consequences. There have already been attempts to procure private keys, and these transactions have been tracked.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: SirLancelot on June 04, 2019, 10:02:59 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? It seems you skipped math while in school. Try this one. divide table on 12 spots then place on them tiny stones. on first spot place 1 stone on second 2 stones on third 4 stones on fourth 16 stones on fifth 256 stones on sixth 65536 stones. Hmm I guess we need bigger table :) Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: fosco333 on June 04, 2019, 02:54:03 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? If it was hackable, there would be many wallets hacked already with this method. I am very sure that there are some peoples keep brute forcing wallet private key or seed phrase currently. But none of them hacked, that means it is nearly impossible to hacking wallet with brute force. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Tungsten-1 on June 04, 2019, 07:51:04 PM for me, hacking a crypto wallet is very difficult to do because I have never tried it and if I try it, I will give up. The crypto wallet's private keys are very complicated and difficult to learn, only professionals who can and hackers. It is not only for you but all of us don’t believe that hacking a wallet is easy. It is very difficult even for hackers it is difficult to hack our wallets but all of us should learn how to protect our money. Once you learnt how to protect your money then you are on the safe side. Those HODL are on the safe side because they will definitely store their crypto coins in cold wallets which have nothing to do with internet.Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: ahmed04 on June 05, 2019, 01:14:39 PM Probably you have no idea how much work you need to do in order to crack the wallet. No one will pick words at random. This is easier to do thanks to phishing sites and a virus.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: ricardobs on June 06, 2019, 07:02:37 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? If it was hackable, there would be many wallets hacked already with this method. I am very sure that there are some peoples keep brute forcing wallet private key or seed phrase currently. But none of them hacked, that means it is nearly impossible to hacking wallet with brute force. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Docbee on June 06, 2019, 11:23:16 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. It is practically impossible to assemble the same passphrase of a particular wallet, even if you are a wizard you can't assemble 12 words correctly, if that is possible thousands of wallets will be hacked on daily basis.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Eadefemi on June 06, 2019, 11:55:17 AM I don't think it's humanly possible to get to someones wallet just by combining random numbers on your own. If that is possible, most wallets would have been hacked. No one should even try that futile attempt because its a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: prehisto on June 06, 2019, 12:04:56 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? You can calculate the possibility, and is very tiny + I believe there is a very simple solution for that as other sites have it for brute force hack. Ad it is CAPTCHA, it will not allow to iterate so easily and it will just not be worth it. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: blueteam09 on June 06, 2019, 12:51:36 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? You can try random words on passphrase but will not work because only some words in some orders will generate a wallet, so is even hard than you think to can generate a wallet where are crypto coins. And there are some people who put extra word on passphrase and will be even hard to get a valid one, and also there are hardware wallets who give 24 words passphrase. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: franciscoDC on June 06, 2019, 01:51:29 PM Actually you dont need to struggle with that phrasess or words just put authenticator or put it in private safe,this is how basically i do but in many wallet that i have theres no word like that just a private key and authenticator only.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: bitgolden on June 10, 2019, 05:34:58 AM I thought of something different sometimes ago, that apart from the passphrase, you could try to do some permutations and combinations on the private key of a wallet to generate another address and eventually get a wallet with funds. This is not what i would want to do though, because it's as good as saying that such person is a scammer, because you are looking forth to rip from where you did not sow. My intention is also not to hack anyone. Just a curiosity. One thing I saw a lot of people get wrong in this thread: wallets come with a predefined set of words. It's not random words from the dictionary. The words you can use are actually limited. Just look at the source code for popular wallets and you'll find a file like words.txt or something. So you'd be choosing words from there, not from the universal dictionary. I remember breaking of prison became very rampant in my country after prison break became popular movie then to the extent of even showing it to them in the prison, and because of so many of the breaking ideas they had in the movie, many people too were trying some of them and somewhere successful. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: altcoinhunter01 on September 07, 2019, 02:14:05 PM I feel it is impossible to get any fully correct passphrase of a wallet as these passphrases change randomly and no one knows which word will be placed at which no.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Shepard777 on September 26, 2019, 05:02:12 PM Of course you're right. But the chance of success is very small. This is the same as spitting in the sea. This has not yet occurred since the selection of passwords in which more than 8 characters will take several light years. And about 12 words, I’m even afraid to imagine this number. It is very huge.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mmo4me.2016 on September 27, 2019, 10:14:02 AM With 12 or 24 words used to create a Wallet, it is difficult to repeat the situation on other users. Of course it can still happen but the probability is extremely small, you can use the wallet application with a secondary password when creating the wallet to ensure more security.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mickey_miner on September 27, 2019, 11:35:25 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. In theory, Yes, but it could take a lifetime. Even if you're lucky and you steal that money, I think this man will find a way to get it back if it's a huge amount.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: gunhell16 on September 27, 2019, 11:43:50 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Lets say the words are lock to 1,000 words to random. (this is very minimal) Then you need to have 12 correct phrases to unlock a wallet, you can't random it right? therefore you have: (1000 x 999 x 998 x 997 x 996 x 995 x 994 x 993 x 992 x 991 x 990 x 989 ) / 1 = ????????????????????//// Good luck on your chance! if i were you will just bet on LOTTO, you have a better chance, you might won 10 X JACKPOT than having 1 correct on your plan. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: kodtycoon on September 27, 2019, 12:01:41 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? it will not be as easy as you imagine, there are thousands of words out there used for phrase words and when you start randomizing every word it will always fail and will only waste your time even though you have tried it many times Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Greatchu on September 27, 2019, 01:01:06 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. At first, this is a crime attempt and secondly no matter how hard you try you will never get a working 12 recovery words that have coins in it, i dare you to give a try and i bet you will spend years with 0 result, many people thinks recovery seed are weak well they should die tryingIf you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: joybella on September 27, 2019, 01:03:09 PM Wallet hack through seed phrase generator is impossible. These words are generated in a unique astronomical manner which by just combining words won't get you anywhere near cracking one wallet phrase. Seed wallets are hacked when seed phrase are exposed not by combination of just random words.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: max6575 on September 27, 2019, 01:09:41 PM different ways on customs with the chance as might to reveal of balance on wallet as users with preparedness on keeping of security on machine with the access to internet helps as least on risks to lose as threat of hacking.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: babysweetTiger0401 on September 27, 2019, 01:52:21 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? That is very impossible to happen dude. Do you think that would be easy to do it in the actual manner? its easy to say but hard to apply. even you know the number of combinations is astronomical, that still hard to track. You must always remember that things, hacking any wallet through phrase is a very very difficult things to happen. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: airdropan on September 27, 2019, 03:02:17 PM i dont think that 12 words are the same that always shown on every wallet. Or even that the same word that would be more than 100 chance for you to try. For some case whenever you put wrong word for many times the wallet will temporary not alvaliable
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: timphan coklat on September 27, 2019, 04:15:21 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. It took a very long time to get 12 matching words from thousands of randomized words. To recover a wallet is not an easy job, if you succeed, not necessarily a wallet that you managed to hack full of valuable coins that are in accordance with the time you have wasted.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Weng simok on September 27, 2019, 04:33:57 PM By using a random combination of words as you say, it is certainly straightforward to hack a wallet but for the possibility of getting a wallet containing hundreds or thousands of dollars, I think that 1: 1000 will probably succeed, because every vocabulary used certainly has difference so that it is very unlikely we can get a wallet that is valuable, especially wallet owners who have assets of thousands of dollars certainly will not save their assets without a strong password combination or maybe they will store their assets in a wallet that is really safe and difficult to hack.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Ken_terrance on September 27, 2019, 05:07:43 PM Lol, you think if this works many people won't know already? there are many people like you who thinks that forming fake recovery seed can make them rich but its impossible, the luckiest you would get is new wallet address ;D
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: landoffaucets on September 27, 2019, 05:26:55 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. Here is the answer for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/4g1228/how_many_bip44_wordlist_combinations_of_12_words/If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? It was said many times that with our classic (non-quantum) computers, it would take billions of years to figure out a specific word combination. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Spaffin on September 27, 2019, 05:28:25 PM i dont think that 12 words are the same that always shown on every wallet. Or even that the same word that would be more than 100 chance for you to try. For some case whenever you put wrong word for many times the wallet will temporary not alvaliable I very often and actively use a coinomi wallet to store not only Bitcoin and Ethereum, but also other valuable cryptocurrencies. In order to access my wallet, you need to provide a certain number of words in a specific sequence with which I can open my wallet. I am sure that this is one of the most relevant opportunities to protect yourself from the loss of your funds, because these verification words perform the function of a secret key.Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Mysteryla on September 27, 2019, 11:13:49 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. You will definitely get bored in the process. I am trying to imagine how much time you will spend on it, because the swords are not actually arranged or explained in a particular manner.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? I have not also seen anyone come out to say that he was able to do it successfully. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: cudora on September 30, 2019, 03:03:56 PM Everything can be hacked, you own computer, mobile device, even your coffeemaker if it is smart and has access to the internet, so if you are wondering if it is possible to hack an crypto wallet, just look at amount of "my eth hacked" alike posts on this forum.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mamesso on October 01, 2019, 01:54:38 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. Hacking a wallet is not as easy as you think, it took a very long time to get 12 matching words. If you keep doing it, I think you are just wasting your time and energy, and not necessarily the wallet you hacked has a lot of money in it.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: posi on October 01, 2019, 02:06:51 PM Everything can be hacked, you own computer, mobile device, even your coffeemaker if it is smart and has access to the internet, so if you are wondering if it is possible to hack an crypto wallet, just look at amount of "my eth hacked" alike posts on this forum. Every technology does have it own vulnerabilities but the last time I check most crypto wallet are not hack direct but stole the wallet informations by creation of fake site to trick wallet owner in exposing their wallet private information and that was the exact thing that happen to my ether wallet which was hacked.Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Thefrolly on October 02, 2019, 02:06:19 PM If these tips actually works, I don';t think you would have found it so easy, and be willing to share so easy too. Just a pile of trash, gathered for thirsty and greedy people. Moreover, what is the thinking behind wanting to rip others of their funds? I mean why would anyone really want to steal from others? That's just mean and insane.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: coin-investor on October 02, 2019, 02:25:19 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. Why would you bother to do such a thing, since you posted this have you calculate every seconds, minutes hours days and weeks before you can even recover or hack any wallet and what's the guaranty that the wallet that you will try to hack has some coins on it, you can do this if you have a long time to waste but there's no guaranty that you, it will be profitable and you must establish why are you going to do this and motivate yourself to continue.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: qomariah95 on October 02, 2019, 03:23:28 PM Better to leave things like this, than you have to try and waste time. I don't believe 100% in this regard, but I don't want to try anything wrong by finding the correct key phrase just for money. To be sure this is really a waste of your time, if you try this way.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: South Park on October 02, 2019, 03:33:02 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. You will definitely get bored in the process. I am trying to imagine how much time you will spend on it, because the swords are not actually arranged or explained in a particular manner.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? I have not also seen anyone come out to say that he was able to do it successfully. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: ecnalubma on October 02, 2019, 03:34:13 PM If someone could crack passphrase with that kind of procedure then that kind of security features will no longer be used for crypto wallets, but as far as i know I haven’t heard someone who’s wallet has been compromised using that method. Its just don’t work that way.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Impaler on October 03, 2019, 01:37:05 PM I think its not possible. Its 12 word and in a random structure. It will take millions millions of combination to find those out. And it will take a very huge time for only one wallet. I don't think thats worthy .
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: capcaypro on October 03, 2019, 01:57:31 PM That's not possible until now I still have not been able to successfully trace 12 words in a wallet containing millions, people would think it is difficult and has not been solved by anyone so it will not be possible.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Emperor of Man on October 03, 2019, 02:10:08 PM With the current technology, no, it ain't possible. There's just so many combinations and the processing power isn't enough to do it in reasonable number of years.
With the supercomputers that some companies are rumored to make, who knows? That's why the rumor of google's new quantum computer dumped BTC price a while back. ;D Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Lizzylove1 on October 03, 2019, 02:23:04 PM It's very impossible for it to ever work. Even though you mistakenly get the passphrase correctly (practically impossible), how about the order of arrangement? It's actually never worth trying.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: sorrros on October 03, 2019, 02:31:58 PM Billions of possible combination is the problem. I have seen a website with already generated all public keys with appropriate private keys. But the chance that you find an account with BTCs is close to zero.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: shadowduck on October 03, 2019, 02:37:59 PM It's very impossible for it to ever work. Even though you mistakenly get the passphrase correctly (practically impossible), how about the order of arrangement? It's actually never worth trying. if you use a quantum computer, then I think it will be possible to pick up a private key. but it will be in the future. and it is dangerous for the marketTitle: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Kupid002 on October 03, 2019, 02:40:03 PM That's not possible until now I still have not been able to successfully trace 12 words in a wallet containing millions, people would think it is difficult and has not been solved by anyone so it will not be possible. OP should try this at least one day. So he will know how defficult it is to find a wallet that have balance ;D.You are able to open many wallet but the problem is if the wallet has a balance. The chances to luckly have one is very little. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: pinggoki on October 03, 2019, 03:06:04 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. It totally impossible I guess. There are billions or even trillion word combinations in a passphrase. If it does possible probably in the future through usage of powerful computer but for now out current technology isn't capable to do that. Besides, this word in a passphrase might be encrypt first before saving to a drive. Another case is that even if you does able to hack a single wallet there's no guarantee that wallet account will have a worth of million balance. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: irixo10 on October 03, 2019, 11:57:05 PM This is the first time am hearing such, but thinking about it, it is practically impossible else many wallets would have been compromised. Come to think of it, how long do you think it can take generating those words? I have seen backup phrase whose words kinda looks different, so in such case how can you generate other words.of such wallets. I think the algorithm for these wallets are built in such a way that no one can guess the words which makes it difficult to access any wallet without the right words. If this is actually possible, many people would have gotten involved as scammers are always hunting.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: mhine07 on October 04, 2019, 12:22:42 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. Its impossible to hack a wallet just to out random words , it will take millions of pattern words to hacked a certain wallet. Even a good hacker will surely be difgicult to input phrases just to hack a wallet. And if a wallet is secured it cannot be hacked by any hackers. It is actually if you input phrases it must be in oderly pattern.If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Mike Mayor on October 04, 2019, 04:30:19 PM Yes. Everything in life is based on odds. There are also the odds that you can be struck by lighting coming out of your house into the garden. There are odds that aliens exist, that god exists, there are odds for absolutely anything. This is how video games work. They use the dungeons and dragons system to work the odds for all actions taken in-game. So if you to throw a ball at a tiny target very far away, you definitely will eventually hit it just like you will eventually do anything.
What you need to do is work out if the odds are in your favour or not. So yes you can hack any wallet just like you can be struck by lightning in your own home. Just like you will eventually do anything if you try enough times. This is what all the talk of quantum computing is all about. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: UniversityCoin on October 05, 2019, 09:46:49 AM Everything can be hacked, you own computer, mobile device, even your coffeemaker if it is smart and has access to the internet, so if you are wondering if it is possible to hack an crypto wallet, just look at amount of "my eth hacked" alike posts on this forum. "It is possible to hack devices that are constantly connected to the Internet." Here you are completely right-everything can be hacked. However, there are secure cold wallets that do not have a permanent connection to the Internet and they can be fully considered secure.such wallets can be considered Ledger and Trezor. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: gaston castano on October 05, 2019, 01:04:04 PM it was very difficult, I thought, because if breaking into it was that easy there would be many cases of hacking wallets everywhere.
which is where we know the number is very small. usually the wallet of the person who was hacked because they visited the phishing website, or clicked on a link that makes their website hacked. and for a hacked exchange they might just be lucky Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Alexandr Kirichenko on October 05, 2019, 09:27:50 PM Even a quantum computer will need a fairly large amount of time. But at the same time, it is not yet created. So what you're talking about is almost impossible. But the likelihood this of course there is.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Vitamin_52 on October 05, 2019, 09:32:45 PM The probability is, you just need to store funds on hardware wallets Trezor and the like. and Yes you need to put two-factor authentication, then you can not think that your password will be hacked. naturally, it is not necessary to store tokens on myetherwallet wallets, security is low there and there is no two-factor authentication.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: DigeNarrator on October 05, 2019, 11:42:48 PM you better mine with the power you'll use to generate infinite wallets and check their balances with a script
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: strickland on October 06, 2019, 03:58:54 AM Yes. Everything in life is based on odds. There are also the odds that you can be struck by lighting coming out of your house into the garden. There are odds that aliens exist, that god exists, there are odds for absolutely anything. This is how video games work. They use the dungeons and dragons system to work the odds for all actions taken in-game. So if you to throw a ball at a tiny target very far away, you definitely will eventually hit it just like you will eventually do anything. People can mannipulate the price of Bitcoin if there is a lot of money in their capital.What you need to do is work out if the odds are in your favour or not. So yes you can hack any wallet just like you can be struck by lightning in your own home. Just like you will eventually do anything if you try enough times. This is what all the talk of quantum computing is all about. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Brunus on October 06, 2019, 08:24:13 PM With current techniques, it is impossible to violate a wallet. When this happens, it is because the owner has not taken the most basic security measures.
Then, who knows, maybe in the future the so-called "quantum computers" will change the rules. But for now you can be sure. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: gbale on October 06, 2019, 08:51:19 PM Wow, I've thought about it, I even tried, but it never worked, then I thought, that this is actually the basic thing that maybe most people have thought like that, so basic things like this seem to have been overcome by the wallet developer,
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: zenhu on October 06, 2019, 11:20:01 PM I think its need long time to get million dollar wallet by brute force phrase, then every owner of those wallet knowing well how to protect their assets. The developer wallet made it secure, they know what upcoming problem with every wallet address, so I think its impossible to get million dollar by typing 12 pattern words.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Zeke_23 on October 07, 2019, 01:00:57 AM Wow, I've thought about it, I even tried, but it never worked, then I thought, that this is actually the basic thing that maybe most people have thought like that, so basic things like this seem to have been overcome by the wallet developer, It will never worked. Hacking a wallet is not as basic as using a random words generator. Wallet was not created just to easily hacked by any individual out there. Wallet has their own generator which they are the only one who can generate those kind of random words/letters. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: btc78 on October 07, 2019, 01:12:07 AM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. Yes it isQuote If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? Correct alsoQuote I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Goodluck to your career mate,12 words combinations astronomically is impossible to find and you are expecting to find a Million holding?Kindly update us here if you found one please?but isn’t it Hacking?which prohibited and not a humanitarian action.i think just let it go .. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: qomariah95 on October 07, 2019, 01:32:15 AM Does anyone here do what @OP suggests?
That's really crazy, if you do it. Yeah, I just believe in that kind of thing. It's just how much time you spend doing it. Will it be comparable to what you will get. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: asus09 on October 07, 2019, 01:54:45 AM You can back up your wallet by using passphrase, you should save your passphrase world when you want to access to your wallet you have submit passphrase, its better keep your wallet save from hacker because they can't hack your wallet without have passphrase, other way you have use private internet.
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: akungagal on October 07, 2019, 03:36:44 AM It will never worked. Hacking a wallet is not as basic as using a random words generator. Wallet was not created just to easily hacked by any individual out there. Wallet has their own generator which they are the only one who can generate those kind of random words/letters. yup! that's right.it is not possible for a wallet to be easily hacked by someone. if someone intends to hack into a wallet by matching all random letters, i think it will take a very long time and it is almost impossible for anyone to be able to open it without permission from the wallet owner. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: South Park on October 07, 2019, 06:38:05 PM This is the first time am hearing such, but thinking about it, it is practically impossible else many wallets would have been compromised. Come to think of it, how long do you think it can take generating those words? I have seen backup phrase whose words kinda looks different, so in such case how can you generate other words.of such wallets. I think the algorithm for these wallets are built in such a way that no one can guess the words which makes it difficult to access any wallet without the right words. If this is actually possible, many people would have gotten involved as scammers are always hunting. You have not heard of it because no one can realistically pull off an attack like that to any wallet, it could be possible if you knew the order of most of the words of the seed phrase, but if you have no idea of the order and the words in the seed phrase then it is going to be almost impossible to find any wallet with any amount of bitcoin, any person thinking that they can earn a lot of money doing that is just deceiving himself and it will be better for him to put his efforts towards something else.Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Nerd-Labs on October 07, 2019, 06:42:23 PM do you mean a hardware wallet?
Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: adaseb on October 07, 2019, 06:49:08 PM do you mean a hardware wallet? Hardware wallets and most software wallet generate keys by a 12 or 24 word mnomonic. They do this because it's easier to save 12/24 words on a piece of paper for backup than some random long lower and upper case letters and numbers. Your bitcoins are fully safe however. It's almost impossible to crack even the 12 words because there are over 2000 combinations for each word and also the order of the words is important. If it was 6 words then it would be very insecure and easily crackakle but 12 words is near impossible. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: atjiat on October 07, 2019, 06:53:37 PM do you mean a hardware wallet? Hardware wallets and most software wallet generate keys by a 12 or 24 word mnomonic. They do this because it's easier to save 12/24 words on a piece of paper for backup than some random long lower and upper case letters and numbers. Your bitcoins are fully safe however. It's almost impossible to crack even the 12 words because there are over 2000 combinations for each word and also the order of the words is important. If it was 6 words then it would be very insecure and easily crackakle but 12 words is near impossible. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Moeda on November 07, 2019, 07:46:40 PM So there are 12 words chosen from thousands to recover any wallet. If you iterate through random word combinations you will eventually generate a wallet that exists, correct? I know the number of combinations is astronomical. But in theory if you keep generating random phrases, you might eventually stumble upon a wallet holding millions? Yes, I think a wallet with keywords relying on 12 words is much easier to hack. Because to randomize 12 words is very easy. If we have ever studied mathematics about Random Number Generators, of course we will find words that can open the wallet. Title: Re: Hack any wallet? Post by: Starfranko on November 07, 2019, 07:54:42 PM So we are assuming that the possibility is there but how many trials is gonna make that happen , millions of times, who had time for that
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