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What happened: FAKE TEAM = SCAM - Stealing people's identity and also using computer generated images

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1049422[/s]

Reference Link: ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146429.0
https://archive.is/LTiqQ

Bounty - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147321.0
https://archive.is/9J1Ta

Bounty - Italian - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150257.0

Scammer Website: https://origin.foundation/#team
https://web.archive.org/web/20190603133103/https://origin.foundation/


https://i.imgur.com/s9kTeQR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bx2cIAl.jpg

FAKE NAME: Danylo Lenko = FAKE
REAL NAME: Max Pogorelov
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxpogorelov/detail/photo/
https://libraries.io/github/mckenn/repositories
https://stackshare.io/mckenn/following
https://ico.newsbtc.com/team_member/max-pogorelov/
https://djinni.co/r/7246-ruby-on-rails-developer/

FAKE NAME: Ivan Koval
REAL NAME: Andrew Onyshchuk
https://www.toptal.com/resume/andrew-onyshchuk
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewonyshchuk/

FAKE NAME: Andrew R
REAL NAME: Ilya Barkov
https://fancy.com/IlyaBarkov
https://github.com/IlyaBarkov
http://githubstars.com/meet/Ilya-Barkov/1180089

FAKE NAME: Sunny Zhang
REAL NAME: Peterson Ang (?)
https://www.freelancer.co.id/u/petersonang

FAKE NAME: Royal A
REAL NAME: CHRISTOPHER FRYE
https://whoisabout.net/Christopher-Frye/106865136670940289399

https://i.imgur.com/9RYPH24.jpg

FAKE NAME: Yin Yue
REAL NAME: Tina Xu (?)
https://www.freelancer.com/u/tinaxu

FAKE NAME: Aito Watanabe
REAL NAME: Visant v (?)
https://www.freelancer.com.ru/u/vinsantv

FAKE NAME: Lilian Chen = STOCK IMAGE
https://bebelingval.ru/system/tinymce_images/files/000/000/729/original/jap2.jpg?1551629348
https://www.idntimes.com/hype/fun-fact/rizal/9-hal-ini-pasti-akan-dirasakan-anak-anak-yang-berkuliah-di-jepang-1
http://news.gogo.mn/r/229196

FAKE NAME: Sylvia Lee
REAL NAME: Dr. Jessica Tai, C.Psych.
http://www.mcleanpsych.com/clinician/jessica-chan-m-a/


"This Person Doesnt Exist" - This scammer is also using computer generated images.

https://i.imgur.com/DZSCJ7L.png
https://i.imgur.com/50nuMNB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/D9CILAB.jpg

If you know how to detect these computer generated images - Please DO NOT share in public.

Damn I did the translation of ANN thread. I trust ICOEthics, so I deleted the ANN thread. I lost almost 3 days to do the translation. I thought it was a legit project. Scammers are everywhere, thanks for finding them. They are starting an IEO on Dobitrade, so I didn't think the project was a scam.

I am only a translator, I was not aware of the fact that the project was a scam. I immediately deleted the thread, as soon as ICOEthics published the scam accusation. I don't think I deserve to receive negative trusts for this.

We changed your feedback to Neutral - and keep in mind there is no next time. So, do your due diligence before opening a thread for any project.

But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images. The project is going to do an IEO on Dobitrade so I thought it was legitimate. I was accepted as a translator (you can check the bounty spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxOdHDrx0_8B85B2RPYPcdnA-_CAYGxrLyiEnKcuCaM/edit#gid=152988400) like so many other translators. So I only did my "job". I hope that also witcher_sense changes its feedback, as I am NOT part of the project in any way. I only did the translation. (and it took me 3 days).

The person you are tagged as a scammer is a bounty manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586
I think he is not a scammer.

I also lock my translation thread.

What about these two exchange :

https://www.dobiexchange.com/news/detail/1eesc24.html

https://support.probit.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029059071-Origin-ORIGIN-Round-3-Announcement

are they being scammed or they are the scammer?

So an IEO is not a guarantee. Scammer are too smart to got listed. Even worse now the exchange can make a fake project, and in this case those two exchange is working together.

I deleted my negative feedback, but I ask you not to get involved in dubious projects next time.  Now you know what fraudsters are capable of, be careful, my friend.

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.



The BM created the ANN as well. He didnt do his due diligence, and because of him more people fell into the scammer trap.

There are fake exchanges that wants to scam people, and exchanges that just wants the money (listing fees, transactions fee, etc... They dont care.
And to answer your question, I dont know if they are scams or not, we didnt check. Have you checked if they have a team? legal paperwork/permits, etc..?

Ok let's forget about computer-generated images, but I'm currently the only translator tagged with a neutral trust. I believed in the project, because I thought that an exchange before accepting an IEO would carry out checks. Now I understand that even an IEO is not a guarantee that a project is legitimate. I kindly ask you to remove the neutral feedback, and if you can, send me a message with all the necessary instructions to check if a team is legitimate or not. Thanks.

In this case coinmarketcap.com also listed these exchange without due diligence. Ok I saw dobiexchange and probit had their linkedin and team connected. However, i don't have skill to use the scam detector machine to verify their trully face. You're the detective. You tell me lol. Sorry got another translation waiting. I will follow your investigation. Thanks and Goodluck COPS

We didnt find other treads created for this scam project, just yours (Italian), bounty and ANN. We will tag anyone creating threads to promote this project. If you know any other, post it here and they will be tagged by us. As far as removing your neutral feedback, we will not remove it, it is a way to keep a tack in case we find you promoting a scam project again. And you should not worry about your neutral feedback - it doesnt affect your reputation - it is neutral. 

I am also agree with you......
and thanks for investigation........
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146429.0
BOUNTTY: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147321.0
Scam alert done....

i don't know probit exchange how to list this fake project????
and i am not team of this project.....
when i see 2 exchange list this project.....i just accept this bounty..... ::) ::) ::) ::)

I can't understand how you were able to find my translated thread and not the others. You can check the bounty spreadsheet to find the other translated threads: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxOdHDrx0_8B85B2RPYPcdnA-_CAYGxrLyiEnKcuCaM/edit#gid=152988400 . You're right, neutral feedback doesn't make a difference, but I've always tried to respect the forum rules, so it does. If you can send me more information on how to find the fraudulent teams, I appreciate it. I do my research before doing the translations. I can't understand how a scam project can do an IEO on an exchange like Dobitrade.

you can check my others project real and gd project... and i am also team of some gd project....
hope you can remove my negative feedback.. coz i m not team of origin boss
i am just BM....
and already i have done ann about scam....

Good that you've made those big warning signs (a little too late if you ask me) but as an additional measure, I would recommend you lock both threads immediately. It's probably said a million times already, but please for god's sake always review/check projects before you decide to advertise or make announcement threads for them.

You are not doing your due diligence, and because of your thread other people will be scammed - Your threads still unlocked - after you lock we will consider changing your feedback to neutral - we dont want to give red tags to BM but we need to force them to do their due diligence.



Just because it is listed on some exchange doesnt mean it is real. Look at the team, it is fake!!!

Search on this scam section how to find scams. There are a few posts about it.

Indonesian Thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148743
Just to show the community that I'm not the only one to have translated the thread.

* https://web.archive.org/web/20190603183330/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148743

locked and really sorry for mistek and i hope will get chance for research future project

and also i am against about scam project...
I can understand that I am wrong and I feel guilty.

Good,  thank you! Feedback changed to neutral.


a second chance was giving since we can blame the BM for this.   ;)

thank you so much boss ... i will do my best

thank you guys for this amazing work on origin. i was happy seeing the project running an IEO on probit. i never had a second though about researching. Now it is clear that running IEO on exchanges does not guaranteed a real project.

Hi Everyone,

My name is Mike Chay, the founder and CEO of Origin Foundation. It took me by surprise this morning to get to know the discrepancy of the project team member profile which was provided to us by the workforce company. I deeply understand your frustration that causes the misunderstanding of our project. On behalf of Origin Foundation, we are deeply sorry and embarrassed.

My partners and I started our watch company since year 2000, throughout the years in business we realized the #1 importance of having a complete end-to-end product authenticity process specifically for the luxury goods industry. ORIGIN Foundation was formed to provide the most comprehensive possible product authenticity solutions in hope to solve the world’s counterfeit problem once and for all.

As we are not the expert in the Blockchain industry, we have to outsource and partner with other technology experts to complete certain project stage, while maintaining our core competence and expertise in the luxury industries. It was clearly an overlooked at our end with the lack of deep due diligence on the companies that we partnered with. Once again, we sincerely apologize for such an unexpected incident.

Moving forward, our priority now is to get ORIGIN project back on track in achieving each milestone on a great team formation. Please let us have your full support and blessings. It is only with your full cooperation as ORIGIN Community that we work hand in hand as a whole, together we make ORIGIN a successful project. Let’s make the world a difference.

If you have any proposal or ideas that could benefit and contribute to ORIGIN project, you are most welcome to contact us at Support@Origin.Foundation.

Sincerely,

Mike Chay
Founder and CEO
ORIGIN Foundation

Too bad, even though in my opinion your project is quite promising, next time being more careful in choosing team members, this is a very valuable experience for you.

You can write whatever you want, but honestly after the facts that have been proven, your words have little value. Your "whole team" used fake images. At this point, if the project is legit, make a video where we can see all the team members, and also the CEO.

Yeah, I have the same assumption that since they gonna do an IEO in Dobitrade, Origin must be above board and legit. Oh well, let's hope that this is not the start of many fake project that may even do an IEO. Too bad. Good thing that ICOethics has done a good investigation on the project and the bounty and has therefore exposed a scam before it victimized people out of their money and time.

We would NOT trust anything coming from them, especially a video. There is no guarantee the people on the video will be some homeless that got paid to say a few words in front of a camera.


Typical excuse - blame someone else, some marketing agency, some developer, a freelancer, chupacabra... We lost the count how many times we heard the same thing. Bottom line = SCAM

Thanks for the information. I was reading and checking the bounty, it looks legit from my point of view..I was about to register for today, glad that I waited after a few days and then I saw your post. Thank you for the information, appreciated.

Thanks for the material you provided us. It's good because you discovered this soon.

Haye ,

Please  check this scam project:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150767.0

Regards

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