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Title: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: timurhazar on June 13, 2019, 07:12:56 PM
AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!   AZBIT ITS OWN BITSANE. OUR MONEY FREEZED IN BITSANE FOR 10 DAYS, WITHDRAWS GOING TO PENDING. THEY  DON'T ANSWER TICKETS, TWITTER, FACEBOOK
BITSANE IS GOING TO DISSOLVE
DIRECTOR OF BITSANE AND CEO OF AZBIT IS Maksim Zmitrovich


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 14, 2019, 01:07:05 AM
Azbit is an ICO while bitsane is an exchange and with your accusation, you are saying that azbit is a backed up ICO by bitsane? If you have problems with the withdrawal on that exchange and your money was freezed, there must be some valid reasons or else it's their verdict to freeze your money. I looked at the website of Azbit but bitsane isn't included as their partner and the person Maksim you mentioned yeah you are right he's the co-founder of that ICO. But searching for the staff of bitsane, I can't find his name.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Buzlov on June 14, 2019, 06:33:53 AM
Charges without evidence. I don't see anything in common between AZBIT AND BITSANE!


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Bharathi13 on June 14, 2019, 10:54:43 AM
Azbit is an ICO while bitsane is an exchange and with your accusation, you are saying that azbit is a backed up ICO by bitsane? If you have problems with the withdrawal on that exchange and your money was freezed, there must be some valid reasons or else it's their verdict to freeze your money. I looked at the website of Azbit but bitsane isn't included as their partner and the person Maksim you mentioned yeah you are right he's the co-founder of that ICO. But searching for the staff of bitsane, I can't find his name.

Their team helped to create bitsane exchange & 3 months back I was reviewing azbit project to join bounty campaign they were selling Bitsane & CMC.io as their MVP.
Just go on official azbit group you can search MVP or Bitsane you will find their link. Attaching here screen shot of Azbit admin selling Bitsane as MVP.
https://i.imgur.com/SNJu148.png

Also you may also find interesting to read this
1) https://icobench.com/ico/azbit/milestones
2) https://statrader.com/azbit-review/


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: DeathProxy on June 14, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Azbit is an ico project running its IEO presently on bitforex. I don't have much clarity on your scam claim at the moment but it would be nice to add much proof to your scam claims rather than just speculations.  This will help noobs investor make good decisions


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Pariseev on June 14, 2019, 04:33:48 PM
AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!   AZBIT ITS OWN BITSANE. OUR MONEY FREEZED IN BITSANE FOR 10 DAYS, WITHDRAWS GOING TO PENDING. THEY  DON'T ANSWER TICKETS, TWITTER, FACEBOOK
BITSANE IS GOING TO DISSOLVE
DIRECTOR OF BITSANE AND CEO OF AZBIT IS Maksim Zmitrovich
As far as I am informed, the Director of the BITSANE is a man named Dmitry Prudnikov.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Chechern on June 14, 2019, 04:37:28 PM
AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!   AZBIT ITS OWN BITSANE. OUR MONEY FREEZED IN BITSANE FOR 10 DAYS, WITHDRAWS GOING TO PENDING. THEY  DON'T ANSWER TICKETS, TWITTER, FACEBOOK
BITSANE IS GOING TO DISSOLVE
DIRECTOR OF BITSANE AND CEO OF AZBIT IS Maksim Zmitrovich
You're wrong, it's all lies. :-\


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: ivara on June 14, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
Azbit is an ICO while bitsane is an exchange and with your accusation, you are saying that azbit is a backed up ICO by bitsane? If you have problems with the withdrawal on that exchange and your money was freezed, there must be some valid reasons or else it's their verdict to freeze your money. I looked at the website of Azbit but bitsane isn't included as their partner and the person Maksim you mentioned yeah you are right he's the co-founder of that ICO. But searching for the staff of bitsane, I can't find his name.

Their team helped to create bitsane exchange & 3 months back I was reviewing azbit project to join bounty campaign they were selling Bitsane & CMC.io as their MVP.
Just go on official azbit group you can search MVP or Bitsane you will find their link. Attaching here screen shot of Azbit admin selling Bitsane as MVP.
https://i.imgur.com/SNJu148.png

Also you may also find interesting to read this
1) https://icobench.com/ico/azbit/milestones
2) https://statrader.com/azbit-review/

so bitsane was for azbit and they wanted sell it?
did you send report to actionfraud.police.uk/ ??


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Bharathi13 on June 15, 2019, 06:43:54 AM
you got me wrong they were selling their MVP of bitsane to woo the investors & when the OP made this post within few hours they publish this article https://medium.com/azbit-news/official-statement-azbit-has-nothing-to-do-with-bitsane-df62a660b489, doesn't it look fishy. They had mentioned the name of Bitsane exchange in their roadmap & recently they removed it & they clearly mentioned their team have helped to built the bitsane exchange. Azbit team should have some responsibility to return the funds of the traders amount stuck on bitsane because their own community memebers got introduced to bitsane & started trading else they will lose their credibility on the market.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: bennguyen on June 15, 2019, 10:42:14 AM
you got me wrong they were selling their MVP of bitsane to woo the investors & when the OP made this post within few hours they publish this article https://medium.com/azbit-news/official-statement-azbit-has-nothing-to-do-with-bitsane-df62a660b489, doesn't it look fishy. They had mentioned the name of Bitsane exchange in their roadmap & recently they removed it & they clearly mentioned their team have helped to built the bitsane exchange. Azbit team should have some responsibility to return the funds of the traders amount stuck on bitsane because their own community memebers got introduced to bitsane & started trading else they will lose their credibility on the market.

I think the information needs to be verified. I participated in Azbit's bounty campaign a few months ago, Azbit was quite successful when it collected more than 6.5 million USD at the ICO and IEO. I will contact them and find the answer.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Galantin on June 16, 2019, 11:06:23 AM
Oh, I heard about this project. Seriously ? Are they cheaters? Many of my friends claimed that this is one of the best projects of this year. Condolences to all those who invested in it.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: viljy on June 16, 2019, 03:09:26 PM
Hmm. I have some Azbit tokens that are still frozen. As far as I know, the ICO is still ongoing until June 30. Is this a Scam? We need stronger evidence.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: bluesnup on June 16, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
is it time to post this again? Not your keys not your crypto! https://medium.com/@switchag/do-not-trust-crypto-currency-exchanges-f9c74adf6e0d
 (https://medium.com/@switchag/do-not-trust-crypto-currency-exchanges-f9c74adf6e0d)


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: duchiep37 on June 17, 2019, 05:09:01 AM
i think it's the ponzi platform, if i true


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: northnblue on June 18, 2019, 05:50:05 AM
AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!   AZBIT ITS OWN BITSANE. OUR MONEY FREEZED IN BITSANE FOR 10 DAYS, WITHDRAWS GOING TO PENDING. THEY  DON'T ANSWER TICKETS, TWITTER, FACEBOOK
BITSANE IS GOING TO DISSOLVE
DIRECTOR OF BITSANE AND CEO OF AZBIT IS Maksim Zmitrovich

Timur Bey, benim de 2900 eurom vardı bitsane de şimdi ulaşamıyorum hesaba. tam kapattılar herhalde.
Siz ne yaptınız.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: timurhazar on June 18, 2019, 04:21:35 PM
https://t.me/Bitsane


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: ethanfromme on June 23, 2019, 05:15:56 PM
BITSANE Website is now down and so is the face book page and twitter. Looks like they're trying to wipe away any evidence. We have to find these people. They have taken every thing and absconded. Does any body have any ideas? I  have contacted Europol and Scam Alert in Britain but haven't been contact.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Xal0lex on June 28, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
Ireland-based cryptocurrency exchange Bitsane disappeared without a trace last week, likely taking hundreds of thousands of users’ assets with it.

Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/hanktucker/2019/06/27/crypto-exchange-and-xrp-refuge-bitsane-vanishes-scamming-as-many-as-246000-users/#40149e6277fa)


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: xtraelv on June 30, 2019, 06:56:14 AM
Ireland-based cryptocurrency exchange Bitsane disappeared without a trace last week, likely taking hundreds of thousands of users’ assets with it.

Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/hanktucker/2019/06/27/crypto-exchange-and-xrp-refuge-bitsane-vanishes-scamming-as-many-as-246000-users/#40149e6277fa)

Yes it has been picked up by mainstream media now. Reported as an exit scam. Social media accounts have been deleted.

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/06/28/cnbc-shilled-cryptocurrency-exchange-bitsane-pulls-exit-scam-on-246k-users/

https://www.ccn.com/crypto/irish-crypto-exchange-bitsane-exit-scams-246000-users/2019/06/28/

https://www.coindesk.com/irish-crypto-exchange-bitsane-may-have-disappeared-with-users-funds


According to this Azbit article:

https://medium.com/azbit-news/official-statement-azbit-has-nothing-to-do-with-bitsane-df62a660b489
http://archive.fo/edX3V

Azbit according to their own admission KNEW about the scam but failed to warn anyone about it.

https://i.imgur.com/oW552pD.png

https://i.imgur.com/f4rNmep.png

https://i.imgur.com/NpxXG1E.png

AZBIT CEO is the same CEO from the bitsane.com exit scam.

https://i.imgur.com/tyQ1jR0.png

Photo from the AZBIT team.


https://i.imgur.com/HRxaDs5.png

https://i.imgur.com/aDmCPex.png

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hanktucker/2019/06/27/crypto-exchange-and-xrp-refuge-bitsane-vanishes-scamming-as-many-as-246000-users/#47acbf3477fa

The UK registered company that "owns the IP rights" for Bitsane exchange.

https://i.imgur.com/1HxUV4a.png

https://i.imgur.com/gZi6Ztg.png

The Irish registered company that operates the Bitsane Exchange.

https://i.imgur.com/reFJJu3.png

https://i.imgur.com/JWcMkeP.png

https://i.imgur.com/9nDUpuV.png

https://medium.com/azbit-news/official-statement-azbit-has-nothing-to-do-with-bitsane-df62a660b489

AZBIT has previously used a STOLEN ACCOUNT  that they bought to promote their ANN thread: nixon99 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111636.msg49813721#msg49813721) (Stolen account accusation thread)
 

Their ANN thread using the stolen account: that they had bought:  ✅ ✅ [ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀 AZBIT - Cryptocurrency financial ecosystem from 🅰️ to Z (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4382120.0)


I've asked AZBIT to comment on the accusations.

Can someone from AZBIT please comment on this scam accusation ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154000.msg51655509#msg51655509

Azbit team as per https://icobench.com/ico/azbit

https://i.imgur.com/xgwtOJh.png
https://i.imgur.com/HTX0gHZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/3qWRplk.png


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: nutildah on June 30, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
I also asked them about this on their new IEO ANN thread a couple weeks back. Despite their claims that "Azbit has nothing to do with Bitsane," a large portion of their team also worked with Bitsane.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114152.msg51450827#msg51450827

I wouldn't trust Azbit at all. Their big selling point is they shelled out enough money to hire Roger Ver as an advisor -- pretty much the entirety of their project rests on this point.



Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: xtraelv on June 30, 2019, 01:27:28 PM
I also asked them about this on their new IEO ANN thread a couple weeks back. Despite their claims that "Azbit has nothing to do with Bitsane," a large portion of their team also worked with Bitsane.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114152.msg51450827#msg51450827

I wouldn't trust Azbit at all. Their big selling point is they shelled out enough money to hire Roger Ver as an advisor -- pretty much the entirety of their project rests on this point.



I'm quoting your post here for completeness.

AZBIT ITS OWN BITSANE. OUR MONEY FREEZED IN BITSANE FOR 10 DAYS, WITHDRAWS GOING TO PENDING. THEY  DON'T ANSWER TICKETS, TWITTER, FACEBOOK
BITSANE IS GOING TO DISSOLVE
DIRECTOR OF BITSANE AND CEO OF AZBIT IS Maksim Zmitrovich
AZBIT is dissolved https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11125557/filing-history


Hello. Azbit has nothing to do with Bitsane.

This isn't true. A lot of your team members worked for Bitsane or still work for them, including Bitsane

-co founder
-head of marketing
-business development director
-head of statistics
-senior analyst
-technical director

In your white paper (https://static.icoholder.com/files/22115/e5051c6d1cb32917c0004f8408a6d05f.pdf) it sounds like the two companies are completely tied together:

Quote
Our team already has experience of creating such a service: the Bitsane trading platform, which has
been successfully running and growing since 2016.

Quote
The funds raised, together with our contracts with Bitsane and other cryptocurrency exchanges,
will enable us to aggregate liquidity and ensure that it is sufficient for our clients’ operations.

Most of the comments on the Bitsane twitter page are from customers who are getting locked out of their accounts and/or can't withdraw their coins (https://twitter.com/EnqinYlmz13/status/1137828144965181440).

Here's another recent tweet (https://twitter.com/petrov_ii/status/1136658228140490760):

Quote
we want any official info "in nearest future" about tickets without answer from exchange support, lots of pending withdrawals for 4-6 days, messages about listing new tokens for hype in exchange news less than a month before company strike-off.
I can continue
Get back our money!

I read through a lot of Bitsane reviews and for the most part it seems like an OK operation, however, if this is how you leave your customers hanging, what would stop you from doing the same thing to Azbit customers once you close that operation?

https://i.imgur.com/mX78lwm.png

https://i.imgur.com/xaSBWSp.png

https://i.imgur.com/HCyqTYA.png

https://i.imgur.com/0Zd9WuM.png

https://i.imgur.com/YycHuLn.png

https://i.imgur.com/oqZNKKZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/X7HmomP.png

https://i.imgur.com/rpesZoH.png

Source: https://static.icoholder.com/files/22115/e5051c6d1cb32917c0004f8408a6d05f.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/TCH9jgv.png

https://i.imgur.com/kjzuJHt.png

Where is the mistaken link ? Your whitepaper states that there is a link. Bitsane website states there is a partnership. Companies office documents show there is a link.
At least six of your key employees worked for Bitsane. One is listed as co-founder of Bitsane.

It is very hard to believe that the entire Bitsane exchange and staff disappear and no-one at AZbit has a clue where they have gone.

https://i.imgur.com/YNGwCJT.png

Lets look at director names of Azbit Ltd that was dissolved on 4 June 2019
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11125557/filing-history

https://i.imgur.com/3iwVrbj.png

ERMOLITSKI, Sergei

KUZNIETSOVA, Svitlana

PRUDNIKOV, Dmitry

https://i.imgur.com/2wtkRZ5.png

https://i.imgur.com/XAj6Pq1.png

https://i.imgur.com/OgyPMS1.png

https://i.imgur.com/Wv0qPtf.png

https://i.imgur.com/7CVbFve.png

[https://i.imgur.com/ZAsaWCe.png

[https://i.imgur.com/0AjmVKy.png

https://i.imgur.com/d2RPG26.png

https://i.imgur.com/ujP8iiD.png


The CTO of Bitsane (The one that has disappeared) was the applicant for the AZbit trademark.

https://i.imgur.com/eZb62Me.png

https://i.imgur.com/gdeaJV4.png
https://i.imgur.com/PTHwNQI.png

He is registered with different dates of birth.

https://i.imgur.com/tgML2qz.png


Other people with significant control over Azbit Ltd:

Aliaksandr Pyachura

Mikhail Yermalitski (Bitane co-founder)

https://i.imgur.com/SDkt8w1.png

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11125557/persons-with-significant-control




What a co-incidence. Of the 4 people listed as persons with significant interest in AZbit Ltd

ERMOLITSKI, Sergei (Head of marketing Bitsane and Azbit CEO)

YERMALITSKI, Mikhail  (Bitsane and AZbit Co-founder)

PRUDNIKOV, Dmitry (Bitsane CTO, Director of AZbit Ltd, Director of AZbit.com OU and applicant for AZbit trademark)

All list their birth dates as September 1983 in some official certified documents


AZbit AG has no clear control structure. The director is a NOMINEE director so the ownership or control is hidden.

https://i.imgur.com/3q8GsjQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/N9EAOjs.png


https://i.imgur.com/kKKNOID.png

https://www.cointelligence.com/content/ico_list/azbit/

So to summarize:

Azbit has been set up by several former and current Bitsane employees.

Some of them provided incorrect and inconsistent birth dates on official documents.

AZbit has various different claims about the corporate structure. Some claiming it to be AZbit Ltd, some AZbit.com OU (estonia) and some AZbit AG

Trademarks for AZbit were applied for by a Bitsane employee that is currently missing - along with the exchange and the funds.

Current and former Bitsane employees and founders are listed as Directors / former directors or persons with substantial control of AZbit.

AZBIT has previously used a STOLEN ACCOUNT  that they bought to promote their ANN thread: nixon99
 







Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Branko on July 05, 2019, 10:28:17 AM
But, but, Roger Ver?


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: xtraelv on July 14, 2019, 09:48:01 PM
Decided to tag them in the hope of getting a response to the allegations. I've held off with creating a flag (not able to be removed) in the hope for some dialogue.

https://i.imgur.com/xluceYd.png

There are also now some concerns about frozen accounts.

All these ICO and IEO that follow each other, will continue for another twenty years? Or thirty?
When will frozen tokens be unlocked on addresses? In the year 2040?
Promised on June 30. :D


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Limamali on August 11, 2019, 04:36:43 AM
I have my thoughts about Azbit as well. And I would like to share it. First of all I am looking in the project for some time but mainly person behind it. I hold some amount of Azbit but only to see if a scam can turn out to be true to what they say the would be. First of all let start at the contracts which are changing constantly like underwear. There are people with millions of tokens that got them just by accident. Circulating supply is not realistic, token burning will newer suceed because they will always print more no matther what they sey. They have locked coins they say, and also the say they are burning them but at the same time selling them and dumping the price. There was listing in bitforex which bitforex freezed because dumping so hard. When questioned about it, they said they are viczims ass well as their total supply is on BF. When clearly wasnt if you check TX. Then it is famous listing on Hotbit which already has it's flaws. We can't whitdraw them because of technical issue. Which I dont know what could possibly given that it runs on ETH blockchain and till Hotbit everything was fine with transactions. The people behind it are also not very legitimate. Max is question able for his role in exchange fraud. Roger, I dont really trust a little bit. Giving his role in many things that gone awry and investors loosing money. The sad part is, that history has shown us that when Roger tweets ornmakes a video isi is already too late. And now all people in forum are waiting for his magic tweet that is promised to turn things arround. Some of us are terryfied. But all in all the listing was done. And trading on Hotbit come to fruittion, albeit with a great dump. And now it raises a question to us all!? Can they really make what they promised a long time ago, seeing how it started and taking in consideration all their failures. They have all legal writings, but you have to understand that EU is soft on cryptocurency, especially some that hasnt really been advertised - maybe thats the reason they haven't really advertised it. Anyway some off us started to questioning the legitimacy and I don't wan't to scare anybody but it is some what possible of an exit scam some time in the future or a hack from their side and they are done. It would be helpful to get a mail to european comission of finance and licensing to check their papers. Cause as we know papers can be falsified and scamers are getting pretty darn smart about this stuff. It is still possible that we are all just paranoid and they have just bad luck and when put everything asside they could deliver what they promised but for now percentage points are on the bad side. So take care.


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: Accountsell on August 16, 2019, 07:49:02 AM
Hmm. I have some Azbit tokens that are still frozen. As far as I know, the ICO is still ongoing until June 30. Is this a Scam? We need stronger evidence.

They have changed contracts 3 times:

0xeccab39acb2caf9adba72c1cb92fdc106b993e0b

0x77fe30b2cf39245267c0a5084b66a560f1cf9e1f

0xaaaaaaaba2ea3daab0a6c05f1b962c78c9836d99


and still don't know which fucking one is real 😡

still can't able to move that shit. waste of gas fee😡


Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: xtraelv on August 30, 2019, 12:28:17 PM
Hmm. I have some Azbit tokens that are still frozen. As far as I know, the ICO is still ongoing until June 30. Is this a Scam? We need stronger evidence.

They have changed contracts 3 times:

0xeccab39acb2caf9adba72c1cb92fdc106b993e0b

0x77fe30b2cf39245267c0a5084b66a560f1cf9e1f

0xaaaaaaaba2ea3daab0a6c05f1b962c78c9836d99


and still don't know which fucking one is real 😡

still can't able to move that shit. waste of gas fee😡

https://etherscan.io/token/0x77fe30b2cf39245267c0a5084b66a560f1cf9e1f appears to be the only one with a real Azbit logo and 300K addresses;.



Title: Re: AZBIT AND BITSANE.COM SCAM!!!!!!!
Post by: xtraelv on October 08, 2019, 07:20:24 PM
Everything seems to have gone silent on this one.

https://i.imgur.com/VGXK3S0.png

Bizarrely their bitcointalk account still logged on after the exchange disappeared.