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Title: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Alex_Sr on July 04, 2019, 08:33:58 AM
Account korner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1096223) (which has long been to be banned (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094661.msg50361052#msg50361052) for evading the ban) with their self-moderated topics, in which he corresponded with their alternative accounts, flood the entire root section of Ru-locale:

Veleor - CКAM. Haeмный BlackPR-coтpyдник (Veleor - SCAM. Hired BlackPR employee) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161256.0)
Aнти-DT Aльянc. Oппoзиция фopyмa (Anti-DT Alliance. The opposition forum) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154724.0)
Balthazar - CКAM. Paзoблaчeниe жyликa (Balthazar - SCAM. Exposing the rogue) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161284.0)
Penek - Moшeнник Aлeкceй Bлacoв (Penek - Swindler Alexey Vlasov) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161442.0)
Cтaндapтныe yлoвки, тpюки, пyгaлки peпopтepoв (Standard gimmicks, tricks of reporters) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161456.0)
He пoзopьтecь в глyпыx кeпoчкax в aвaтapax (He disgrace yourself in silly caps in avatars) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161193.0)
Paзoблaчeниe нaкpyтчикoв мepитoв (Exposing the merit scammers) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156263.0)

https://a.radikal.ru/a09/1907/fa/db7c00e1404b.png

Suggestions:

1. Prevent creating self-moderated topics in the root section of the Ru-locale (for example Meta, since these are identical sections)
2. Move all this "stream of hard-to-digest nonsense" to the miscellaneous section (Paзнoe)
3. Ban korner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1096223) account for evading the ban (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094661.msg50361052#msg50361052)



Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: kzv on July 04, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
The user korner is a troll and spammer. Hi should be banned IMO.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: IMadeYouReadThis on July 04, 2019, 09:29:36 AM
korner also deleted my message from his self moderated scam accusation thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161218.0


Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Quote
Wow, Jemura is connected account with Veleor too

Proof:
Maria Uni - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
jemura - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM

There are many accounts registered here on a single day and there can be overlapping of registration time here.

You are just upset as Veleor has busted some of your alts, I don't think you have any proves of the following accounts being connected.

Accounts connected
mosprognoz, Marina Uni, Noads, researcher194, liquid55, Foxpup, Last of the V8s

Overall you have no solid proofs, just what you have is hatred which you are showing by posting from your own alts here which makes your accusation baseless.

Suggestion:

It would be better if self moderate topics are not allowed in scam accusation board, as I don't think it helps much, everyone should get a chance to defended them self with valid arguments there. Ya, I know we can start our own thread if we don't want to be moderated but still it is not feasible to see many thread's discussing the same topic.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Alex_Sr on July 04, 2019, 09:42:15 AM
korner also deleted my message from his self moderated scam accusation thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161218.0

He removes from their topics all messages but messages of his alt accounts. He talks to himself in his topics.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: suchmoon on July 04, 2019, 11:19:14 AM
korner is not quite right in the head... I opposed his frivolous flag against Veleor so he claimed I'm Veleor's alt, then deleted that claim, then apparently added it again....

Unfortunately as we've seen with some other hypertrolls polluting the forum for years, it's very unlikely that he'll get banned for this. Perhaps cryptios folks could look into the ban evasion issue.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Foxpup on July 04, 2019, 11:42:13 AM
And now we're all "scammers", allegedly. I'm very disappointed; he could have at least put some effort into coming up with a more creative lie. Everyone else who left me false retaliatory trust cared enough to do that. It makes me feel unloved. :'(


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 04, 2019, 11:48:29 AM
Just wanted to add this report of Veleor as well of possible plagiarism by that member korner.

Here is the link of the report: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg51491841#msg51491841
I guess he is just trolling or promoting spam.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Foxpup on July 04, 2019, 12:12:30 PM
It seems he's trying to make up for it by starting a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=325) parade (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=326) in (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=327) our (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=328) honour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=329).


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 04, 2019, 12:23:31 PM
It makes me feel unloved. :'(
Oh, you're loved, Foxpup.  But love from trolls and vicious morons is a cheap commodity that I myself don't wish to own--and this guy OP is talking about sounds like he fits well into that category.

Members do occasionally get banned for spam, and they certainly get banned for ban evasion.  Hopefully this dude'll get nuked to high hell.  Sounds like he's very deserving of it.

It seems he's trying to make up for it by starting a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=325) parade (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=326) in (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=327) our (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=328) honour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=329).
What a total tool.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: witcher_sense on July 04, 2019, 02:31:50 PM
Here the list of flags you want to oppose

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=350
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=349
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=348
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=347
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=346
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=345
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=344
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=343
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=342
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=341
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=340
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=339
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=338
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=337
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=336
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=335
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=334
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=333
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=332
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=331
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=330
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=328
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=327
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=326
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=325


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: suchmoon on July 04, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Here the list of flags you want to oppose

Probably this too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=351

The reference link has no evidence.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Foxpup on July 04, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
Here the list of flags you want to oppose
Quote from: Wikipedia
This is a dynamic list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lists#Incomplete_lists) and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness.
FTFY. ;)


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: madnessteat on July 04, 2019, 04:00:47 PM
Like many other forum users, I think korner should be banned. He violates not only the rules of the forum (Ban evasion, trust abuser, troll), but also conducts very aggressive actions that harm the entire forum society. He feels his impunity and continues to trickle down. I think that users with such behavior is not a place on the forum. We need to stop it!


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Lafu on July 04, 2019, 05:56:17 PM
He just makes arbitrary flags that are just makes no sense!
And i guess that's what theymos said is also reason for an ban.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Veleor on July 04, 2019, 06:12:32 PM
It seems he's trying to make up for it by starting a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=325) parade (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=326) in (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=327) our (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=328) honour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=329).

korner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1096223) made a screenshot for one of his flags when he apparently logged in from the account Sorbent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2618696).
This can be seen by the colors of opposition profiles on the image.

(Archive (https://archive.md/1QUsB))


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Harlot on July 04, 2019, 07:32:59 PM
Supported the active flag found on his trust page. By the way isn't the Russian mods should be active on cleaning korner's self moderated threads? I think that they can do that as all of his threads are only created for his own purpose. There's really no sense for him destroying the whole local RU forum with all his nonsense.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: VyachikO on July 04, 2019, 08:10:06 PM
Full list of korner's shit-flags with names:

yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=353)
leo99 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=352)
penek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=351)
rhomelmabini (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=350)
The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=349)
nutildah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=348)
Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=347)
suchmoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=346)
bambarmia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=345)
mosprognoz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=344)
icopress (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=343)
IMadeYouReadThis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=342)
johhnyUA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=341)
DabLjat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=340)
FontSeli (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=339)
DIKUL (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=338)
pandukelana2712 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=337)
witcher_sense (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=336)
micgoossens (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=335)
madnessteat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=334)
LZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=333)
Xal0lex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=332)
xandry (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=331)
Alex_Sr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=330)
MaoChao (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=329)
TheFuzzStone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=328)
Lafu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=327)
kzv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=326)
Foxpup (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=325)
Veleor (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=316)


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Foxpup on July 05, 2019, 05:15:20 AM
Full list of korner's shit-flags with names:
You can also add Marina Uni (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=356).

Quote from: Wikipedia
This is a dynamic list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lists#Incomplete_lists) and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Xal0lex on July 05, 2019, 07:17:47 AM
Supported the active flag found on his trust page. By the way isn't the Russian mods should be active on cleaning korner's self moderated threads? I think that they can do that as all of his threads are only created for his own purpose. There's really no sense for him destroying the whole local RU forum with all his nonsense.

The request to ban this user has been filed for a long time ago. But the global moderators don't react for some reason.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Foxpup on July 05, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
So, he's now created over 70 flags that are either completely false or, even if there's any truth to them, he's provided absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back them up, many (most?) of which seem to be directed at people he dislikes for completely petty reasons (the latest victim is chimk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=397), for the heinous crime of not giving him any merits (https://archive.fo/Ur410)). Anyone care to guess what, if anything, his endgame is?


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: suchmoon on July 05, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
So, he's now created over 70 flags that are either completely false or, even if there's any truth to them, he's provided absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back them up, many (most?) of which seem to be directed at people he dislikes for completely petty reasons (the latest victim is chimk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=397), for the heinous crime of not giving him any merits (https://archive.fo/Ur410)). Anyone care to guess what, if anything, his endgame is?

You seem to be new here. Trolls troll for fun, not for some lofty goals. Or so I'm told. I mean I would never.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: Foxpup on July 05, 2019, 01:52:39 PM
Trolls troll for fun, not for some lofty goals.
I'd like to believe that, but my foxy-sense tells me there's something more going on here.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: suchmoon on July 05, 2019, 02:09:14 PM
something more going on here

Martyrdom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.msg51718040#msg51718040) hopefully.

Edit - now using sockpuppets to create bogus flags:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=421
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=422


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: nutildah on July 05, 2019, 03:46:08 PM
Its about time I had the "This user has inactive flags, which may be totally inaccurate" message in my trust history. Was waiting apprehensively to pop that cherry.

The thread he linked to justify the flag was particularly creative, as it was a first of its kind as far as I'm aware:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110613.0

Spoiler alert: I busted a scammer whose website had copied a moderately-successful ICO project, that placed malware in their wallet client (an odd thing was it was an auto-downloading file... started downloading to the website visitor's computer without their permission), and his revenge was copy/pasting another scam accusation and switching around a few fields with my name. He was quickly banned for plagiarism. Lol.


Title: Re: A group of linked accounts terrorizes the Ru-locale.
Post by: madnessteat on July 05, 2019, 05:35:48 PM
I'm very interested when global moderators will pay attention to korner's abuses. Until recently, korner showed his aggression only in the Russian locale and global moderators could simply not see his abuses.

That the most interesting moderators of the Russian locale sent a request to ban korner's account more than once, and he continues to spit in our faces and laugh.