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Since I signed up for the Forum, there is a subject that the project teams have been constantly complaining about. People who deal with Bounty are seen as a dumper.

I've been studying for a long time. I talk to many project teams like a private investor and ask how many (%) discounts they can offer to me for a $ 100,000 investment if I want to buy tokens during the ICO process. Coming offers you can not believe. Today I encountered another project. A year ago Winklevoss brothers invested as an early investor to the project. And they will do ICO soon. The price difference between the price they sell now and the investment they received from early investors is exactly 2500 times! I can't believe! They're trying to sell what one person got for $ 1 to another person for $ 2500.

Let's go back to the bounty! Projects usually allocate 3% of the figure they sell for bounty. So for example, a project that collects 10 million investment distributes only 300k bounty. Can you really dump a coin with a 3% bounty (which is distributed to an average of 1000 different people)?

$ 10,000,000 to $ 300,000? Really? Are you that naive? Or do you like to treat bounty hunters as cheap workers?

Please stop blaming bounty hunters! And stop huge discount your early birds. They are dumping your coin, project itself! I think the market needs more transparency!

Good point they cannot blame their investors because they will end up blaming themselves because they are giving a very high bonus percentage to their early investors, so they have nothing left but go to the bounty hunters, there are times that the coins are being dumped even though the bounty hunters have not yet received their shares.

People often feel the need to blame others for situations where they are confronted with harm. Investors blame bounty hunters because they sell rewards from very low prices. But it may be the investors themselves who have caused the price to fall with the idea that Bounty Hunters will 'sell anyway' before the awards are sold. In this case, bounty hunters blame investors. A ridiculous paradox emerges and this process continues. So when does this get better? When people stop blaming others for things they don't like. Let's see if we can see those days.

Bad projects are the ones that get rekt when bounty hunters sell off the little percentage of their token allocation ,if the project is very good enough 2-10% of max supply shouldn't drag down the token value ,without working product or pro teams this will happen when hunters dump tokens

That's true, stop blaming bounty hunters. I am bounty hunter and i am investor too, when i see good campaign that i participate i will invest on the project too. I think many hunters doing like that.
Huge discount be the main reason the price will dump.

Theoretically speaking, it's still possible. Remember that volume is important too. If early traders are those who only look to get profits and cash out as early as possible, then I'm not surprised if those 300k tokens can bring the price down to -99%.

Who would sell as early as they got their tokens? Maybe not always bounty hunter, but I believe BH is one of the perpetrators.

Theoretically or practically ... If a person buys a coin from $ 1 and sells it for $ 2, he sells it. If it's $ 1000, it'il sell 100%.

Thus, investing more than $ 2500 would do great damage ... without the Bounty hunter at all! (these figures are an example. I saw worst!)

Absolutely spot on assessment. Projects are responsible for giving way too much to early investors , and ofc its a business for those early investors. They want to take the profit when they see minimum 10x to 100x of their investments. And even if the bounty hunters can drop the price to 0 , but the project or traders can buy themselves all those cheap tokens and then can bring the price up .

So it is important that projects think it carefully and long term before offering unbelievable offers to early investors.

A project token marketing includes many aspects: private equity institutions, early investors, ICO buyers, IEO buyers, bounty hunters marketing promotion, etc. Once a project is listed on the exchange, the low price of tokens does not blame bounty hunters for selling it. There are many stakeholders here. The tokens given by bounty hunters are a small fraction.

This is true because bounty hunters can't literally dump the price of a good project since not all hunters will sell the token right away, you can blame the whales secretly invested on the project who are just waiting to exit the market. Its not fair to locked the token because of the thinking hunters will dump it, they work for that token and they deserve to get the profit they needed to so if the project blames bounty hunters then I guess they are not good enough to hold for.

this is what they know about bounty hunter- that they are the one dumping their coins.. but they don't know about their investors and even their team ;D.. how can they say that these hunters are dumping when the allocated amount is just a percent of what the investor is buying or what the dev team is holding  :(

Some tokens are reserved and mostly the tokens of the investors and bounty hunters are trading on exchanges which is the reason investors blame bounty hunters and to some extent I agree as the hunters who participate in FB, Twitter and other content campaigns dump their tokens on Etherdelta and exchanges as they aren't interested in holding them and since many hunters have multiple accounts, they dump thousands of tokens for a worthless price. This has reduced lately though.

Sadly, many people don't know it. Yes, and I was also surprised with the number of 2500 times a crazy number, which could explain why most of the listed projects lost tens of times. And those who buy privately or buy early are still profitable.

Blaming on bounty participants is their only reason when their project misserably failed to succeed after listing, because of lack developments on their part the price will surely fall because investors usually want some real project that has some updated features not some hidden unknown development so when the bounty participant can't wait to hold their coins and sold it at the early stage of the project, the price will surely fall but if they really have a real plan to make this project they don't bother on the sudden dump of the bounty participant instead they will continue on their project like nothing has happened.

Okay and what about those platforms are getting listed on the big exchange site? The problem is in the developer itself. It must be the priority to create a partnership with good exchange to get liquidity.
We have supported it through the community support but the majority of developers didn't wanna lose their money for big liquidity. you are including to the BH too. lol

Offering big percentage bonuses for early investors is definitely a problem. Whilst it can increase initial sales, and often creates problems further down the line. If you get half price tokens as an early investor, you then just need to sell everything at final ICO price to double your money. This encourages people who aren't remotely interested in the project to buy in, as they can sell later for easy profit. It is not a good idea for new projects to offer these huge bonuses.

This is a very good topic and something I have been pondering about for some time now. The percentage allocated for bounty most times is insignificant to have real effect on prices when they list on an exchange. Projects as you rightly stated, should look into huge percentage allocated to early investors which they use to woo them. In some cases, bounty hunters tokens are locked for a period and that still doesn’t stop the decrease in price. Investors are real dumpers mostly when they think the team isn’t that strong and lack focus.

I am confused what factors confirm that Bounty is the cause of a token value dump. This should not need to blame each other because it is purely in the market. So everyone can do that if they have many tokens. If the project blames bounty hunters, of course they must be prepared for this risk.

The question is ''who is deceiving who''? Dev and team that have failed even before that start at all, thinking of how they can sell off their coin by giving it away all in the name of private sales and then covering up their deed by blaming bounty hunters for the dump in price, the crypto sphere is full of so many deceptions.

That's right, it's not the bounty hunter's fault. It lies in many factors, the most important responsibility still belongs to the team. Be really alert before blaming the bounty hunter!!

That's right, even if the bounty's tokens are locked, the tokens value is still dumping!!

I wanted to give out my point that bounty hunters should not be blamed for anything about the price, and if they did, its normal because they work on it, one thing that come to my mind is the developers itself dumping the price, because they wanted to liquidate their hold tokens, and some of them just wanted to scam that is why they all want to sell their holdings, bounty hunters help them anyway to spread out the awareness of the project.

You know when a project price is dropping they always tend to point it on bounty hunters, can you imagine that and also that offering huge percentage to early investors, I thought I was the only one seeing it.
Ok there is this experience a project was trading @0.2btc and before it was distributed to hunters it dipped to 0.011145, now who is to blame for that

The bounty hunter can't be blamed and calls them dumper, we must know that bounty hunters have a big role in a project. they work to promote a project without any clear payment, so we can't blame them as a bounty hunter.

If a project drops in price after hitting the market and you blame bounty hunters for, you are wrong!. If a project allocates 3% to hunters and they dumped it, the remaining 97% should be able to fix something.

That is true , not all of bounty hunter dump the token when hit the exchange.
Dump of token can affected by early investors that has a lof bonuses .

We cannot blame bounty hunter if they sell their tokens because of some of them needs money. We cannot force them to hold their tokens because that will make the price drop too deep. I am sure that not all of them sell their tokens once they received the token because many of them still waiting for the high price to sell.

Though bounty hunters are selling their token, I think devs as well as investors don't have care about it since tokens are earned by bounty hunters and they have their own rights to sell it. Anyway, bounty hunters will not sell their token in lowest price. I am a bounty hunter also and I want to sell my tokens at high price.

As a rule, projects consider bounty hunters as some kind of laborers. They are paid the funds later than anyone, forced to undergo all sorts of checks and kyc.  I always ask such projects, why then run a bounty company?

yes for the bounty problem indeed this is something that in my opinion is unfortunate considering that the bounty was able to get paid up to tens of thousands of dollars now, on the contrary, I worked on the bounty for more than 2 months and the token now only reached $ 15 yes $ 15 dollars!!! even if it is in accordance with expectations, maybe $ 1,000 can be but it isn't

I noticed that many projects, having bounty campaigns, value their coins falls before distribution stakes to hunters. This is done for buy coins low price at bounty hunters.

True, it is wrong that people who put their strength and most importantly time. But the developers do not appreciate this, and delay the distribution time as much as possible. I believe that there should be some general rules that will protect the rights of bounty hunters.

Lol this was what the team uses as reason for defending about the dumplings of their tokens though the reality is they are escaping from responsibility towards investors

For the last bounties that I joined always same reason to blame the hunters or just runaway and gone lik a wind.without giving reasons for what will happen to the projects at all

its not only the ico team that blames the hunter but investors and the hodlers of those coins also . they complain when their coin dumps and they all put the blame on the bounty hunters but no all bounty hunters are dumpers  . bounty hunters themselve is also a victim .

sometimes its also the whales fault on why the coins can dump because they are manipulating the price . they invest more and then they dump it

Im totaly agree with these thread! Even myself also experienced this. In one of my ICO journey. Thats why early birds investors are secure more tokens because of the huge bonuses than the main ICO participants. Blaming bounty participants about the token price dump are just blind alibis. But i dont really understand that some of the bounty hunters are pondering with the team's reasoning and denouncing its fellow bounty hunters by pretending someone else how ironic.

Good thought and really like any one out there who truly supports bounty hunters on this very topic. Currently I have a locked Xcrypt token and as to the reason why its been locked, only the project knows I guess and even though its listed and everyone out there can trade except hunters, ICO price was $0.1 yet this coin is been dumped and so I'm asking, who are the people dumping, investors dump and hunters dump so there is no need for blaming hunters alone.

Thus this shit project really showing nothing to expect for but a big shame with their parts. They are actually ruining the good market reputation and added a certain project that causes market failure. It's just a luck of those dumpers gets something but how about the other who are late to sell their coins? It surely they get nothing but only shit coins to hold.

Yup, i aggree with you, bounty hunters working hard to get tokens or coins. I am wan't to sell my payment under ICO prices, because i need money from my works. If they blame us dumped prices on exchange they are wrong.

Lets see, early promo stage 1 tokens: 0.1, stage 2: 0,2, stage 3; 0.3 and normal price 0.5, people who buy tokens under 0.5 can sell it soon when listed on exchange, then they can buy back with very low price. Investor who dont have experience about ICO or TA, being panic and sell it with low price.

Most of the time bounty hunters were blamed for they do trade all the stakes earned once the market is open for trading through different exchanges. When we think of the bounty allocation it'll be 1%-3% which is very small compared to the investor funds. Indicating this as the reason for the price dumping project teams used to distribute the bounties after long wait to the participants.

Sometimes it's not the investors who will dump, it is the dev itself will dump them all since they were too greedy to let those bounty hunters and their investors take the highest profit of dumping the price in the future. Bounty hunters can't do anything about it because they have to follow the certain rules given to them by their manager and by the time they get would their bounties the price was already dumped.

Great point mate, a lot of ICO bounty hunter is suffering and experience not to get their share as particioant of the project, the hunter is always in the 50/50 situation if they can get their share or not, meaning difficult how to stop and how get solution blaming bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters are always the ones who make the value of money drop. We can't blame them, they've been working hard every month, even with campaigns for up to half a year. What do they do to live in that time period? A lot of projects bring the effort and wisdom of bounty hunter to make jokes.

Good to hear. I'm also the bounty hunter. Seeing your post, I'm thinking that most of the bounty hunter will instantly sell their coins for their hard work. Most of them doing this usually.
But I don't know behind that, there is a private investor that getting a huge discount buying coins even before ICO start. I don't really know why they want to give huge discounts to private investors :(

The reason the bounty hunters are seen as such is because once they already have their rewards they will sell their tokens right of the bat, but if you dig deeper in the market situation of the token you will see that it is not the hunters that are the reason of the dump. As one could investigate there are many reasons of a dump, the main reason will be the investors selling their tokens, another could be that the token have a market volume if that is the case then any small token sale will pull its price down so hard.

Well who are they going to blame, if they blame investors, of course, investors will turn away from this coin, and of course they cannot blame one of their team, doing so, investors will lose in their team, so that leaves them to blame bounty hunters because they have nothing to blame but the bounty hunters although they cannot prove that.

Happening each other blame I think to be a very sensible thing. Bounty hunters are always targeted to blame when coin prices decline. But we must remember here we are also equally looking for a job to make money. So, in fact, there is no need to blame each other and if the project has a good development, surely the coin price will be back up.

Sometimes it's true but most of the time it's a big lie, I have seen so many coins dumped even if bounty hunter's shares are not yet released, it's the huge pre sale bonus is the culprit of this, they gave early birds such a huge amount so if they dump it they still have profit.

when the market or buyer interest in the market is still not too much, of course what happens is a dump. Unfortunately what is known and widely blamed is the Bounty Hunter. whereas in some cases as you say distribution for the most recent passive bounty. some also distribute gradually. how does the bounty hunter dump if that way? even though the allegations for bounties are relatively small compared to the bonus given to investors at presale.

Thanks mate, your statement is fact, sometimes when I read where they say bounty hunters are responsible for dumping, it beats my imagination, imagine the percentage  given to private investors, also sometime another reason for dump is listing on exchanges with low volume.

actually all depends on how the distribution system is carried out by the team. investors will get first place, with the bonus they receive may sell directly when they can be traded. all depends on the value obtained. but not all investors will sell the assets they have, maybe only bonuses will be obtained at this stage because they want to see how the project will progress in the future.

after that the bounty distribution, without any reason most of the bounty hunters will immediately sell the tokens they get, especially if the price is good. it will make prices tend to go down, because surely those who buy the coins are not so much because of the new project. because the downturn made investors a little panicked, and then sold their sets in large quantities. it is very likely to happen and the moment of dump looks like it was done by a bounty hunter.

sellers gonna sell buyers gonna buy. if it's dropping is due to the lack of buyers, not hunter's fault. if a team claims to have sold lots of tokens in their ico, they should not worry about hunters. Pretty sure that many are faking their sale numbers.

that's right, the team can't be honest with the results of sales and make manipulations. after all, if no one buys a coin at a high price and keeps the price down, it is the fault of the team that cannot bring buyers to their coins on the market. Communities that have coins they clearly want to sell coins and make a profit.

one project that extended their referral program for months last year (ternio) later simply decided not to pay anyone, justifying that there was a high number of fake accounts... well maybe there was, but their project claims to eliminate fraud on web advertising lol so..... if this is a lie, they scammed people. if it's true, they just showed a big flaw here, why trust in the project, the team that can't even manage a referral program?  ;D bear market showed the darkside of many here... lol

we are all know that, that shitcoin need someone to blame and bounty hunter is a scapegoat here. I will never pay attention to the project that blames the hunter because the price of their coins falls. and I guess that kind of thing happens only to projects that are useless and not in demand by many people so there is no demand in the market that can hold the token price .

Not only that , this is also the developer's fault because they are not listed on a better exchange. Most projects like that will only be listed on DEX or unreliable exchanges, then when prices are dumped, developers blame bounty hunters for all the reasons even though those who are behind all of this will benefit from investors and then leave without a real project.

This is true that the promoters of the project always blaming the bounty hunter for their work that saying of they didn't do the work properly. This is myself who already blamed by the many bounty creator as a bounty hunter. I haven't paid yet my reward after gone two years for the many project.

Every project team, they don't learn from bitcoins that live without satoshi and they don't learn from other big altcoins projects, why can Bitcoin grow big?
Bitcoin has many large communities that sincerely promote bitcoin, we all know that currently the Bitcoin trading volume is very high even with high prices, the sincerity of the community that has been carried out until now bitcoin is known by many people and many bitcoin users around the world

I believe that projects that have a higher number of communities will last longer than very few investors, they are interconnected and need each project to value their community and investors, rather than flattering investors and sometimes blaming the community, they forget when their project success that their community is involved in promoting them beforehand and is also useful to bring in other investors in the future

I think this depends on how you react.
the factor of decreasing tokens after entering an exchange always falls. and we all know that the decline has many causes. one of them is a large discount, a team that is less clever with trade and does not have a precise strategy to increase the price of tokens after entering the market. coupled with the many bounty participants who threw away after that. so I think this is very comprehensive

Of course, there are many factors affecting the price. However, if you sell something to one-tenth of its normal price, then you can't expect it to be traded 10 times when it goes on sale.

Stop blaming bounty hunters for not performing their duties well or discharging their tasks. I always say this business is risky and no one is to blamed or accused when something happens. Sometimes the fault even comes from bounty  developers then they'll shift the blame onto bounty hunters.

Very good post! Many projects need us at the beginning but after the end of token sale they change their behavior and we are parasites for them.

I thinks its not fair to put the blame on bounty hunters for the the rapid decline in price, they should foresee this and plan accordingly before the start of the bounty. Because of this issue, a lot of projects does not pay their bounty hunters after doing all the effort .

A convenient and generally accepted team's position  that hunters are to blame for the price of tokens in dumps. Often the team locks the tokens distribution to hunters. But the price after listing coins to the exchange usually dumps by 10 times.The hunter's 5% of the total amount of tokens willn't dump the price of coins low the floor.

Since the inception of bounty campaign, bounty hunters have always being victim of blame because of dump in price on exchange. Most projects forgot that their bonuses are ridiculous and its even the investors that do dump their bonuses once token is listed on exchange. I did a bounty last year called iungo, the project promised over $100k in bounty but only manage to distribute what was not up to $10k and the coin still had a huge dump on exchange.

It's been this way for a very long time now, they kept on blaming bounty hunters for the dump but in reality how could you dump a 3% of the overall supply. This is one way of scamming people and they just put the blame on the bounty hunters.

Some don't even understand that bounty hunters are responsible for making them learn about a certain cryptocurrency project before they could invest into it.
And they don't understand that the hunters also want to make big morning just like the investors.
But the same greedy investors set their buying bid very low to buy from some hungry hunters and at d end of the day bring the price to collapse where it can not longer rise again.

Now, is it the hungry hunter's fault or the greedy investors?

Huge profits or discounts given to investors  is the true cause of dumping in the market value of most crypto coins. Bounty hunters have little to do in terms of dumping in the crypto space. In as much that some bounty hunters will not mind selling their coins or tokens lower than its worth value, bounty hunters contribute to about 2% of the main cause of dumping in the crypto ecosystem.  

Most at time I wonder where people were educated and the kind of tutors who taught them mathematics. How can a project allocate just 2-5% of whole tokens to a bounty campaign and when the coin is being dumped, only hunters are being blamed, this is absolutely wrong, 5% can't influence 95%. Bounty hunters work hard and its not easy working hard and just go out there to dump for a penny.

A never-ending discussion. Both sides have their points. Let´s say it: a lot of bounty hunters are going to dump it as soon as the project hits the market selling it for a penny. However, economy and markets exist because there is some kind of harmony between demand and supply. Without demand, even a bazillion of your tokens are not worth a dime. Moreover, if you knew a situation like that can happen (if you are an investor), why wouldn´t you allocate, let´s say, 10% of your investment for a time when the coin gets to the exchange? You would get so much more with a crazy discount! ;) Nothing is for certain, especially in crypto. Why didn´t you cover these two most possible scenarios to eliminate a risk? An educated investor would know how many tokens "for free" would possibly enter the market and he would like to take an advantage of that. Well,better luck next time, I guess?

Bounty hunters are not really the cause of dumps as project developers might make it seem but rather their fault because they have launched a cryptocurrency project without making adequate effort to provide funding for marketing which is very essential to success of a cryptocurrency project, else they would buy back when dumpers dump to collect their salary for services well rendered

That is right it is not fair for the bounty hunters to be blame of price down they have only got small portion of the allocation giving by the project, if the project have good strategy of marketing and to be more popular from many investors i guess the project would be success and the price is high.

I always heard investors blaming bounty Hunters in the dumps of token after listing on exchange and that is the most bad thing that they blame for because at the first place we bounty Hunters only promote the project and wait for the rewards and also for us we dont get profits in tokens thats why we are looking for the bounty that pays eth and btc.second is the project team is all responsible for the dumo because of the cheaper exchange the tokens it has no potential to grow in the future so blame those projects and not bounty Hunter.

Yup you have a point there. For example if only 3% of total collected amount is allocated for bounty then it is barely possible to dump the particular coin. Even if all the bounty hunters sell their token at once then it will not create that bigger impact in the volatility. So blaming it all on the hunters is not logically right.

Correct !!!!!
I use to think bounty hunters are the cause of dumping coin and I created a topic regarding that, I asked for the input of others. I was made to understand a couple of thing
1. Bounty hunters only a chip of the available coin so selling at a low price shouldn’t have much effect.
2. The project team don’t put enough effort to ensure the success of a project .

      Thanks for the explanations , it's a short and understandable because I have found and replying to the thread about dumping of tokens from the ICO projects since this always reason on why the price will down during it's listed on the exchange , so this thread was explained very well.

Yes you are right. It is not the bounty hunters have a problem. But I think the bounty manager or the project. Hunters only get a very small amount that they shared in promoting their project and at the end the fault is on the bounty hunters? I think that is wrong. I hope bounty managers will read this kind of post to make them realized the effort of bounty hunters for the small salary.

Bounty hunters have been working for a long time, from 1-4 months. This is really difficult for them when current life needs to eat and friend exchanges. Meanwhile a lot of project scam bounty hunters. I just feel they are pitiful! So if they get some money from the bonus program, they need money to pay for the actual money outside.

The core problems of a token dump are not bounty hunters, because as you already stated, to create a massive token price crash, all hunters need to sell their tokens in once. It is much easier to blame hunters, rather to take action.

I strongly agree with you, I am also a bounty hunter, and I think the coin price fell not because the bounty hunter sold coins that he got cheaply, but indeed a huge presale discount bought by investors that made the price of the coin very cheap after listing to exchange

This is true! We deserve a good deal and pay for our hard work and not being called as dumpers and freeloaders. They will soon realize the power of bounty hunters when bounty hunters stop working due to no profits.

it has long been known that bounty hunters do not greatly affect the cost . the earliest investors lock in profits or losses. Or the development team sells its own.

Even if they locked the bounty hunters rewards their coins are still dropping I have seen that to so many coins coming out of ICO Liker Dexage and now Xcrypt are locking their bounty hunters rewards but their coins are still dropping, from this we have seen the big picture that it is not the bounty hunter's fault.

Bounty Hunter is actually a victim.
they work but there is no guarantee to get payment. a few months they worked and at the end of the campaign they got nothing because the tokens were locked and various adverse reasons.

Very good topic, and I don't even understand why the coin would dump if they really raise a good amount of money, unless they are just deceiving investors. Bounty hunters are here to work so it's normal that they will dump right after, devs should anticipate that already and do necessary measures to avoid dump if they can.

But on the other picture, even if there is a dump but when the volume is even less than 3% of the total amount raise, that would not entirely affect the future of the project, price dump could be temporary but then again, it's better if the project will have a good start as investors usually sees it first compared to it's potential in the long run.

Blaming bounty hunters for all the failures of the project has already become a habit.  How hunters can drop the price of a token when they have a very small percentage of the total number of tokens.  And even more so now projects are paid for work in the bounty later, or tokens of hunters are frozen at all.

As bounty hunter I needed to have assurance for my bounty coins, which indeed cannot be dominated by investors. I choose to hold instead of being an dumper. Others may thought hunters were just doing same thing as other, but don't generalize the idea.

I'm so curious, what makes you so angry and did your research. If only words on the street that are saying " Bounty Hunter is the dumper ".
Well, that won't trigger me that much. Any other reason behind your research?

Bounty hunters have thousands of participants to promote a project and their rewards are not much.  Most projects do not have liquidity when being put on the trading floor, investors panic and sell assets at low prices.  That was bad.  I have seen many projects still have the ability to increase their token value without depending on bounty hunter like Pundix, Sero and many other projects.  The value of a project depends on the market, the development team, the project partner, the investor and what the development team can do.

Yes absolutely correct, if the coin or token is being dumo after being listed, it is not the bounty hunter's fault. Because if we can see total allocation distributed to all bounty hunters its just a a few percent, about 1-3% of the total tokens allovated for bounty hunters, it may affecy the price if being traded but not so big, investors are thenes who has many volume of the tokens, so they might be.

How can they cope up with the dumping of investors who bought the token with the very cheap price as what OP had said. If investors sold millions of what he bought then it could really affect the market price.

what is the power as a bounty hunter who only hopes to benefit from the project being worked on. I don't blame the bounty hunter because I can also be considered a bounty hunter. but what you have to know from a bounty hunter is don't expect too much, because you get it for free without investment. I am also active in trading so it does not depend on the results of the bounty hunter.

The budget for bounty hunting is only but a small fraction of the marketing budget and always about 2% of the total hardcap.
So in a case of a successful listing, the trading price action cannot be judged by this few percentage of coins circulating, however enormous bonuses is one of those factors responsible for a price dump and not bounty hunters. 

I think that the main collapse in the prices of tokens is due to their sale by investors who bought tokens with significant discounts and due to the General fall of the market. I agree that the bounty hunter can't do much to influence the exchange rate of the coin.

Exactly! I have seen so many projects blame bounty hunters for the dump. It always sounds Bizarre, especially when reward for bounty is of small percentage. When you see projects blaming bounty hunters, it goes to show that the project team have got no good strategy of making their project successful.

I agree that bounty hunters shouldn't take all the blame because of the small percentage of the coins or tokens which is distributed for those who joined the bounty but still they are newbies who lacks patient in holding their rewards from the bounties, imagine the numbers of newbies dumping their coins or tokens for cheap price in different bounty rewards which could affect also the marketplace even in its small amout it could affect the market.

I think that the blame is just a habit of those who fail, they like to criticize others. If that is really a good project, the number of tokens we have cannot make the price down seriously.
A good project always has a big buy back and buy wall policy when starting to distribute for bounty hunters.
therefore, we should not be too concerned with their criticism. Anyway, it's still bad projects.

interesting observation if that is the case. Bounty hunters now receive a very small income, and whether it is worth it, sometimes it is not clear

In the earliest days of exchange listing of a coin, it is believed that bounty hunters are the ones who really do the dumping. So that ICO price is almost immediately far from the current price. I think that most of the bounty hunters will dump as soon as the coin is admitted on an exchange. But over time, the coin should get back to its price since it is only a very small portion of the total number of coins that allocated for bounty. If it fails to, the project and not the bounty hunters should be blamed.

I am also surprised at the slanted views of people to bounty hunters. We are always considered as actors who make the price of coins destroyed, or often referred to as a dumper. In fact, we also work diligently, and not all bounty hunters will directly sell their tokens at prices that make it dumped. Sometimes we also become victims of dumpers.

Now are the hard times for bounty hunters. I had a long break myself. Recent campaigns in which I took part have brought not only losses of time. We will see how it will be now ...

It is very sad when we are accused of something,especially in the fact that we are collapsing exchange rates, which is carried out at the expense of the bounty, but this is our reward for the work, and we can do with it whatever we want

You wrote a wonderful text. I agree with you that bounty hunters have virtually no effect on fluctuations in the price of a coin. More influenced by early investors who buy coins at very cheap prices. Bounty hunters are good guys.

I also think that bounty hunters are not much to blame that the rate of a certain coin , I think you need to develop a good product that the course could not go into the bottom 2 people.

The situation is clear to all, and both token team as well as bounty managers find hunters quicker and easier to blame because bounty hunters have no choice.

I have seen token locked for bounty hunters that ended up at a terrible price
And I do hope we bounty hunters can fight the unfair treatment and criticisms  faced sometimes

Actually Im always read some comments in telegram also here that bounty hunters are one of the reason to dump the price of coins they receive in bounty rewards. Im bounty hunters also but i did not doing dump the price of coins that im receive from bounty. I just holding it and wait on when the price goes up even if it took a year.

As hilarious as it sounds, this is true. Only irresponsible project managers blame hunter for dump. I have participated in a project with 3 months bounty and weekly pay and guess what, the coin price never dumped for a day. This project has rounded off bounty currently and still kicking fine on coinmarketcap

Pre ICOs always have huge discounts for investors it's a means if getting money for projects. These same tokens are not locked sometimes it get dumped on listing. Dumps are not just the act of hunters alone.

Bounty hunters only earn small amounts of tokens compared to investors, and shouldn't be blamed. In trading, the situations took price to go down due to some instances like hype or some investors who tend to panic. Not all hunters dumped, most of them choose to be holder like me.

I totally agree with you for the ICO developer no longer blaming the bounty hunter, this is very real... I still remember the words of one of the project developers on Twitter who said that the cause of the DUMP of an ICO project was Bounty Hunter, whereas if carefully examined the bearish ICO cause is the sale of coins by early investors. 

Bounty Hunters shouldn’t be blamed, we all know that project is handled by the developers and team, they have funds analysts to know the possibilities and flow of the investment to avoid any problems. Only few of the funds is allocated to the bounties which is served to promote the projects to the people.

That few allocated will be big if launch in the exchange and no one is interested in buying.
The result will be a dump, I think the team here should make a strategy not to release the entire bounty if the coin has not gain enough liquidity yet in an exchange.

It should be a good idea, I mean a win-win for all.

Indeed, there are many who blame when the token is distributed to prize participants, the price will go down, but if you see the percentage given is not enough to make tokens to break prices if there are no big sales and those with large tokens, of course investors who get bonus tokens during the initial ICO purchase, it was good even though there were also many participants who sold their tokens quickly when the initial listing but that was only a temporary decrease if the token was good then the price would be returned to investors in that market.

I saw many tokens listed in the market and the price are dumping even the bounty tokens are lock.
This is not to blame on hunters it is the early buyers who get double coins.
If the project team is very confident on their project they should not send tokens to participants.
they should replace it to BTC or ETH.

You should stop repeating this again and again. During the past 2-3 years, hundreds, if not thousands of users have requested at least a part of the bounty to be paid in either BTC or ETH. But the project promoters don't feel any need to do this, because there are huge numbers of bounty hunters available who are willing to work for slave like conditions.

This is one of the factual points I have ever read on the forum. Point well made. I have personally participated in certain bounties which have not yet paid me for almost two months now after listing, all with the fear that hunters are going to dump their tokens. While in actual sense, it is the private investors who are rather doing so

It's pretty funny when i also see this statement about bounty hunters. Most of the times bounty hunters don't hold even 5% of the entire tokens and how can such a small volume ruin the success of any project. It's rather private investors who buy large amounts who dumped their holdings on the market to crash the value of the tokens. These private investors are giving large amount of bonuses and i think this should also be stopped.

That's right!, it was very unfair actually for blaming the bounty hunters, though they're not distributing yet the token rewards to their bounty participants were it backfires to them honestly speaking. And most of the time now they've lock the token even they sent it already to their own wallet of the participants.

This is definite a very interesting topic to ponder upon and many people have been discussing this for some time now but most likely for a long time.  If you will notice that the share or percentage of the allocation on these bounties are at most insignificant to have a real effect on their prices once these are listed on an exchange. These projects as was stated, should further look into the large percent allocation to early investors which they use to lure these investors. Most cases, these bounty hunters tokens are locked for a certain time and still has no affect when prices starts going down. If the project team don't think strong and lacks the focus to sustain a project they usually see investors as dumpers too.

I like joining bounty projects from trusted bounty managers because they will never change the bounty rules when bounty ends or when bounty is ongoing,once they drop rules for a bounty they will never adjust it,learn to find yourself good bounty managers

If a coin falls heavily in value, then the problem is not in bounty hunters, but in project itself as they have a erroneous market-entry strategy and their coin have zero liquidity. Bounty hunters own a very small % of coins from total amount and with normal coin liquidity they could not greatly affect the price.

I hope people blaming bounty hunters would realize their mistake, it only showed their lack of knowledge in investing.
You are correct, it's only a small percentage of the total supply and the team already analyze that in the beginning and even if it dump, it does mean that project will die, most of the dump are just temporary, it's still up to the team to do the right hard work to improve.

OK, I think your idea is pretty good, locking coins for the right road bounty hunter that the developer must do when they don't have liquidity on the market. And it is not my intention to blame the bounty hunter indeed, but on average the newly listed projects in exchange have few interested parties while the bounty hunters sell them directly, this will cause dumping. But it's fair, if the project feels very good and has a lot of interested people, so there's no need to lock the coin bounty.

yeah, and maybe early onvestors with big bonus is a part from the dumpers mate
if the team care with their project, i'm sure the team will do something to safe the price from their project stable

you did say the right thing, so far many people have blamed the hunter's bounty for the fall in the price of a new coin.
whereas the total supply for bounty hunters is not much compared to investors.

but i think investors or bounty hunters cannot be blamed. all of this depends on the project team, if they can develop their project well, more and more people will believe in the project and the fall in coin prices will not occur.

Most of the teams are interested in the funds raising and not about what happened to the tokens or project after listed. I participated in a project that the ico price was around $0.06 and the project which I did not want to measure the name raise around $12, 600,000 during ico. This same project was listed in idex on 15 of this month and currently, the tokens are down by 93%. I look at the order book and I see something surprising. There was a selling order of 3,657,600 and the tokens allocated to the marketing which include bounty hunter was around 1,500,000. It is then it done on me that the owners and developers are the one dumping price and not the bounty hunters.

it seems ridiculous to blame the bounty hunter considering the allocation for bounty is relatively small and not all bounty hunters will directly sell their coins or tokens, I think dumper comes from investors who bought at the beginning because they got a big bonus,

I think the fall in the price of tokens after listing is not a bounty hunter mistake. because it's true of your explanation above, that the bounty hunters are so many participants, but overall they all only get a funding allocation of a few percent of the total 100%. it's not a mistake, I think it's fair. precisely what plays a big role in the fall in the price of tokens is that holds a large number of tokens when buying at a cheap price, and then after the listing process is complete, they sell everything.

so it's clear, that this is not a bounty hunter's mistake, even investors can be blamed here if discussing the price of tokens that suddenly fall after the listing process.

I think blaming the bounty hunters ONLY is useless because the truth is its not only the bounty hunters that are dumping the token. Investors and the team itself too are dumping the coin for the sake of profit. I'm not blaming the bounty hunters ONLY but they are one of the reasons why the price of the token after listing on an exchange plummets immediately.

yes ... I strongly disagree if there are parties who say that the bounty hunter is a dumper ... because the bounty hunter has done his job during the bounty period for up to 2-3 months ... and this takes a long time ... and it is impossible for them sell at a low price because the bounty hunter wastes a lot of time promoting the project to completion ...

I agree with your statement, initial discount should not be large so that the last investors are not harmed and the price can also be stable when the token enters market.

But sometimes I also see that after the distribution to the bounties the price of the token is getting dumped, can it be said by the bounty ?? what is clear is that if the hunters think clearly there will be no dump.

I have always believed that bounty hunters have no or little effect on dumping of coins which causes price crashes. Huge discount allocation and lack of marketable products are some of the causes leading to price devaluation especially soon after listing of such coin on Exchange(s).

Indeed, so far I also do not feel that I or other bounty hunters are people who drop prices, because they get a small number of tokens so that it will not be able to make the price of the token fall.

sometimes I even wonder why project managers give such huge discounts to early birds forgetting if these early birds dumps one-third of their discounted tokens, they still won't be at loss. why then blame hunters who work tiredness for a project with just a minimum allocation of about 5% be the only ones who dump. Is time project managers consider all these and stop blaming hunters for what they do not do. hunters are not cheap workers.

But the thing is, even if they just have a small allocations, the moment they dump, a lot of speculators dumps as well, the usual domino effect that we have seen so many times in any crypto market including bitcoin.

That's why bounty hunters have the bad image and I do think that it will remain like that, in my opinion.

Yes. Why blame blame hunters ?? they sell tokens received from work done when following campaign that is being followed. this amount is only a small part of the total supply provided. so let's think positively about this, and don't blame each other.

   Bounty hunters are innocent cause in a fact most of the bounties allocate just 5% of the tokens for bounty rewards, how can just 5% hurt a project? What hurts some
project is reckless team, they are the ones who dump most of the coins when they hit first exchange and they disappear with that money. In that way they drive price
down and after disappearing project has no chance for recovering. Buyers, investors, together with bounty hunters are the most hurt by this, we have worthless tokens
in our wallets and we can do nothing about that.

There are so many factors are play on why a coin or token drops in value.  It could just be from bad timing with launching during a bear market even though the project has a solid foundation and goal.  Hunters are only allocated a small percentage of the total amount anyways so they shouldn't be blamed.

You really can dump the coin if you have even 0.1% of it. The volumes are very low sometimes when the coin is young and there are just few exchanges where it is listed. You can track some graphs and see bounty and airdrop dumps clearly.

Someone had to be blamed for the dumped prices for token
And the easiest set of people to be blamed are hunters.

Bounty hunter are defenseless and cannot even alter any change in rules or terms of bounty
Let’s just keep our head down, and participate in the best projects

When I see high rank members blame bounty hunters for price dump, I get so disappointed. It is not hidden how much bonuses are given to investors, teams high percentage allocation and the decrease in the bounty allocation, only in rare cases do we see 1%, especially in past 1 year. We have seen news of teams flooding market with their token and series of scam processes to dump price. We have seen enough

I actually consider it quite ridiculous to blame bounty hunters as those responsible for token dump. It is highly irresponsible of a team to ever think that. Bounty hunters are only service providers who collect payments in time for jobs well rendered. You either pay in btc, stable coins or your native coin.

of these 5 percent, most do not immediately sell. and also waiting, as investors. The team does not always sell, in some cases, the price is reduced by early investors. it's just more profitable to blame bounty hunters.

People consider bounty hunters so cheap and poor most especially project managers and bounty managers. Why blame bounty managers for dumping whiles you know from mathematics that only few percentage of the total pool was allocated for bounty campaign. Its high time project managers work on the discount given to early investors in other to prevent dump and blame of bounty hunters.

It seems that this has become the habit of the manager or the related team who always blames the bounty hunter if the value of their token is dumped. Many people are confused about this, because there are only a few bounty allocations but they can be blamed with a dump.

Hunter only had few percentage of the token allocation, so if they dumped their asset earlier it won't really affect the price quickly. Not all hunters have that kind of mindset. They're forced to dump if there's a possibility of panic which triggered by some investors who sell earlier.

Unfortunately, this will always be the case. Once there is a significant fall in prices of assets, its always come to see and hear people blame it all on Bounty hunters. Totally unfair to the bounty hunters who put in quality amount of time promoting these projects for publicity as well as a chance at attracting more investments to these projects

investor is bounty hunter. many bounty hunter follow some ico and invest their money, and they will get more token. and it can cover unwanted things. im sure it will not work if they dont invest, because ico have scale to reach the target. but bounty hunter can be a part of falling prices of token, how if big investor try to sell above the price but it go down? buyer is always buy lower.
i ever say about, to place your token price above. so it will help to raise that price.
and actually, we all ever be dumper.

Not sure if bounty manager are blaming the bounty hunter because they are the one who knows the real situation.
AFAIK, it's the investors who are blaming the bounty hunters as they don't like when the value falls.
Some maybe buying but the trend says it does not recover easily, so that's frustrating especially if investors wants short term return.

You really spoke well, Bounty hunters take all yhe blame for the dump of coins when they actually get little percentage of the token. This is not really fair for the hunters after promoting their projects.

if is be bounty hunter right if they get reward from their hard work.they could do anything with their token/coins , no one could stop it.bounty hunter also need money or maybe sell it because they prefer to bitcoin or ethereum.

Blame the bounty hunter will not change anything. In addition, it's not the fault of bounty hunters. Bounty hunters have an excellent contribution to the ICO/IEO project. They work hard to promote the project and sometimes they also invest. So it's not natural if someone blames the bounty hunter because of the coin price decreases.

We are working for them and they must pay for our work.
Stop complaining about the dump the coins cause we just only do our thing.
The reason why the project tokens value decreased is that they list on the bad exchange, so that's why people don't want to trade on that exchange but only just want to sell it.

i think they blame bounty hunters because the project don't have any investors and buyer so the only solutions is blaming like the project don't have mistakes  ;D

Just say to the team :

If Bounty Hunter its a dumper, then dont created the bounty simple like that right. Everyone have their own decision to sell the token, remember an ICO Supply 90% giving to the community with the same times really different with mining coin went they have how much coin created each day so the ecosystem still can control.

maybe like you said, but it shouldn't be like that.
the project team must work harder to get more investors and buyers by offering something that benefits investors or buyers.
i think it will work rather than looking for who is wrong.

Reading through the comments I saw one that says hunters have multiple comments hence can initiate the dump. I want to react to it that that multiple account also is part of the total allocation to the bounty pool, if all investors care about their project, they should always initiate a buy back pool

Investors have never made a buyback on a project coin, they only care about profits after buying and that is very reasonable, what I have seen is the dev or project team who buyback their own coins in order to prevent the dump on the market, and what we have to understand is that the cause of the dump is not from the bounty hunters, because they don't control the market.

I absolutely agree with the topstarter - ill-conceived discounts are to blame... just check the chart of any coin that did a bounty company after ICO stage

I laugh at the ignorance of anyone that blames bounty hunter for any dump that occurs on the exchange.  Most bounty hunters put in alot of resoruces and energy and wouldn't want to sell at a cheap price without them getting a profit that will worth the time and energy they invested in the bounty

Unfortunately this is the perception many has towards bounty hunters thinking hunters are the major reason why price dump in any project that host a bounty, but in reality that is absolutely not true, bounty are usually allocated %1 of total supply or to 1% of token sold, how does this small fraction of allocation able to suppress price? Unbelievable.

That is common mistake of projects it is like a stereotype that they always blame bounty hunters of token dump. Lets say some are doing that but it wont affect that long. Price will still depend on the market and it is not even a valid excuse if they say so. They need to have a strong community of hodlers for the success in price.

Well,,, if you must continue to do your thing,,, then do not complain when they do not want you to do your think. Bad exchange or good exchange, you think listing on Binance or listing on Yobit makes a difference to the dumper? They just dump if the price is good. All that matters is price.

The projects which keep on blaming bounty hunters for anything happening to price of their coin are those who run ICOs w/o any knowledge. They just mismanage their project and start blaming bounty hunters as its easy to do it. If I go back to late 2017, many coins that were sold by bounty hunters early rose like anything within couple of days. It depends upon the overall sentiments of the market. If there is any project with good background its coin shall surely rise in a short or after sometime.Projects should concentrate on their product instead of blaming bounty hunters.

You've got a good point there buddy. I think we need to understand first all the aspects on how an ICO works before we come up with any conclusion that will result in blaming one person to another.

I think the project team need to study first the pros and cons on giving bonuses and other promising discounts to investors that will affect the price of the token afterwards.

You got a point there. But, mostly those normies are having different thoughts about this. Whatever the reason is, bounty hunters most likely would get harassed because they don't give a shit with the project. Also, what would make bounty hunters getting blamed because they are usually breaking the rules of group chat and just spamming their shitty  promotion in wrong place, which makes bounty hunters reputation becoming much worse.

I understand that it is very unfair and highly unreasonable for hunters to dump the tokens as soon as it is listed for any penny, but it's their token and hardwork to do whatever they like with. Developers are also as guilty as hunters, they should provide a certain amount to buy back as soon they get listed to prevent the dump.

I agree with you, in my opinion the allocation for bounty campaign does not really affect the price of the coin after listing in exchange, which greatly affects the price of the coin, is a very large discount when doing a private sale or pre sale

Yes, sometimes we can even find whole threads dedicated to the fact that bounty hunters are to blame for the fact that the price of a coin falls. But this is shows that many people don't understand how the projects work and how things are arranged. In fact, even if we take into account that absolutely all bounty hunters simultaneously sell all their coins of remuneration (which in itself is unlikely), this will not bring down the price as much as we see very often.

it is a double situation, on one hand if bounty hunters dump their coins, it could means a downslide in price, but it should be temporary, if the project is good, and there is a demand for the coin, you can see that on many tokens
but on the other hand, if there is no demand for the tokens, even bounty hunters with 3% could sent the token value to zero, but it is a lousy project then

So most of the hunters now after the direct distribution token will be sold if there is a price if you just hold the token for the loss you will get, because the current project after entering the price exchange the token immediately falls instead of going up.

Whenever the price gets dumped in the market, there's always the blaming drama, when people received their token whether they are investors or bounty hunters, they should not question if they dump it or hodl it, but they should focus on giving updates about their platform, this will stop investors and bounty hunters from dumping their coins.

Its bad when we do blame bounty hunters at times. Sometimes, the fault isn't theirs but other times I think the huge money or rewards they give to investors.

But if the project can still survive and there is still demand and supply that occurs, then I think the price down is not a problem, because even though prices are dumped quickly after being traded I still believe prices will surge even though it takes a long time.

Bounty hunters are scapegoats who can be blamed for anything. They are simply not protected by anyone. Projects, blaming the hunters for something, can cut bounty pool. It is beneficial to them.

What an irony. Though bounty hunters also have a very important role in expanding the network of the project. How is it possible for only a small allocation, mostly below 3% of total supply, can it affect overall prices? If the marketing strategy is good, the price will remain high even though the bounty hunters get their rewards in full (you must also have had a project like this). So you are right, maybe they are just looking for justification and scapegoat.

some investors will not buy back the tokens that they have already sold, they have already gotten the benefits they want, especially for investors who have bought them at the beginning with big discounts. so they won't take it anymore.

well, indeed we cannot blame investors as well as bounty hunters.
all of that goes back to the project developer, how they can maintain their project and make it successful.

very good explanation, it is true that if I calculate the benefits they get from investors, it is very far from spending on bounty hunters, if I do, some projects pay more attention to investors' money than the quality of their own tokens so that dumps occur, those who do not care about the price of tokens and don't want to spend funds to buy back.

Yes, most of the companies will blame the bounty hunters, i think that is not the right just because the price is dropping because companies are not able to deliver what they mentioned in the roadmap. Yes, the price is dropping because of many reasons and it is not the right to blame the bounty people.

You are speaking my mind ,  i keep wondering why Team would use their hand to dump the price of their token due to a huge amount of bonuses given to early investors  and turn around to blame Hunters?

 After all i have seen several projects who locked Hunters reward for several months yet the price got dumped upto 500% or more below ICO price .

OSA is an example, they have locked hunters reward for several months now , their target  is to lock for a whole one year . No hunter has sold  OSA coin  yet you wont believe that the price has dropped as low as 1000% below ICO price.

Tell me , what do those early investors stand to lose by dumping a token they bought at say $0.5 with 50% bonus  when at $0.3 ? they are still in profit . meanwhile other investors  later bought at same $0.5 without any bonus .

So this blame on hunters dumping token prices dose not really hold water . sometimes Team use that to deny hunters of their reward after labouring and advertising their projects for several weeks or month , this is not really fair  and  i think something should be done about it.

I got kicked and banned from various groups for making such comments to them telling them there is no way bounty tokens can kill the project price. There is a lot of manipulation by this projects that we don't see and they blame the hunters

yes, a lot of project blame the bounty hunters if the price down hard after listing
maybe they think if bounty hunters got their tokens or coins for free
but the truth, bounty hunters should pay their rewards with their time and their mind

There are many bounties like that, especially some projects from Korea, they don't contact the bounty manager. Also they closed the international community channels on telegram, and the last thing was that bounty hunter didn't get anything.

Bounty hunters are not to be blamed for any projects failure and we deserve to be treat  right, new projects will still need bounty hunters to create awareness in the future so we help a lot but its really sad how many developers are treating hunters like pests

yes, truly don't blame bounty hunter I agree that few bounty hunters they don't really see the project and the team which is not but good I see the project and the team behind it and I hold my token for a very very long time.

Hunters are only doing their work and as expected to the rewards, it needed to sell, because they want to get paid for what they have done, when the price of falling coins is not a bounty hunter's fault but it can be a mistake of the  founder and also the team behind the project that they are not providing enough support to have their project more valuable in crypto.

Absolutely agree with you. The allocation for bounty tokens 3% or 5%, no all 100% bounty hunters sell their tokens immediately. And even if its done by all, do the project is that weak and the entire price will get dumped by more than 50% ?
Its a fact that bounty hunters are blamed for price dump for every project. And moreover, I have seen few projects distributing token 2 months after listing or imposing few months lock period on the rewards even they know the real situation.
Nevertheless, keeping everything aside, we should keep the rewards for long term to get real benefits.

If a good project has a DEV team dedicated and strong community, then they will never abandon their coins. from 1% - 3% of the amount of the project sold is used to pay for bounty hunters, it is not possible to dump a coin to death.
The shit projects they only focus on selling a lot of goods, deceiving investors and they will not care about the new coin making it dump.

I totally agree with you. In my practice there were several projects that did not issue tokens to the participants of the bounty, and the price of the token, when entering the stock exchange, immediately went down. This confirms what has been written above that it was the early investors who ruined the price if they knew that there would be no further sense from this project. They just make money on it, but to cover it up, admins and menjers blame the bounty participants. I think this is a very bad indicator and something needs to be done about it. Personally, I think that, ideally, after completing bounty companies, admins should offer bounty members to buy out their tokens at the sales price. This would be fair and would return confidence in the bounty companies.

Some project run their token sales like ponzi scheme. Giving some big investor huge discounts while other investors are treated equally and they have the goth to blame bounty hunters. Many of the dev team have always use hunters as leverage for perpetuating evils. Now their secrets are no more save. Many of them now lock hunters token but the result still remain worse. XCT is an examples of this. Most of them see hunters as hungry lions. Until hunters wake up and stop falling for campaign that promise unrealistic allocation, thing will continue to go from bad to worse

agreed I have experienced the same thing but i can't buy their token because minimum invest amount

in some cases the bounty hunter is always the victim, meaning the victim here if the project fails the project must blame the bounty hunter for dumping the price, even though the culprit is one of their teams who has tokens and it is indeed difficult to avoid and sometimes good projeccts will cheating not to give their tokens to the bounty hunter.

this is just a team game when prices decline and blame the bounty hunter for causing dumping. Declining prices mean the team doesn't work with investor money, they just want to get a lot of money then party. they said that so they would not be blamed by investors, while the initial investors supported the team's words which made all ico investors panic and sell their tokens

honestly, I hate if bounty hunter is always blamed for dump >:(

Advanced investors understand that they should not take this seriously. The paradox is that bounty hunters can dump the price, but they are not guilty of a price drop.
If there is no demand for project assets, even with the help of 0.1% of current funds the asset market may be collapsed.

When a project could not withstand the twat of time, there is always that possibility that someone  must be blamed and in this case bounty hunters are been blamed for it

In my view, hunters have no or little effect on dumping of coins which causes price down. Huge discount allocation and lack of marketable products are some of the causes leading to price devaluation especially soon after listing of such coin on Exchange, and so it`s not in the bounty hunters fault.

I will agree with you mate, they take hunters all the blame if prices going down and that's not really fair for us hunters because as a hunter we also work hard to advertise their projects for several months. Most project developers taking bounty hunters lightly, as cheap workers in my experiences as a hunter. Delayed payment distributions and locking tokens are worst scenario and so that hunters cannot sell because they think hunters will dump on them on the day of exchange listing and that is not good to the hunters.

This is really a eye opener for me personally. I also surported that bounty hunters should not be blamed by projects but when i saw the result of your study it proved more to me that i had been right. It's so annoying how hunters are treated in some groups today,  like second class citizen with no value,  yet,  some hunters succumb to the tyranny further defacing credible hunters. Just as i wrote recently in an article,  attitude is key,  many project lack it yet they are the cause of their own failure

The success or failure of any well planned cryptocurrency project should not be blamed on bounty hunters because of the little percentage of the coins or tokens which is distributed for those who joined the bounty yet at the same time they are newbies who needs patient in holding their rewards from the bounties, no price dump of 2% of total tokens can crash a good project

Even though all bounty hunters dump their token, it will not (or only a bit little) to affect with the token price on market. Bounty allocation for them only around 0.5 - 5% max from total supply, how can it give much effect with market? Obviously they are only want to blame bounty hunter instead admitting their fault

That is true, the amount of allocation for Bounty which is only 2% -3% is very unlikely to be the cause of coin price dumper.  Because the coins owned by the Investor from the purchase Bonus are far greater.  I as a Bounty hunter also do not agree, if the bounty hunter is always blamed when the price of coins in the market occurs dumper

Any project manager found of blaming bounty hunters seriously does not know his or her left or right in the project he or she is managing. To really understand and blame hunters who only had less than 5% of funds(tokens) allocation is immature and should be considered again. Hunters are not cheap and poor to be blamed day in and day out for dump which is not from them. Some projects locks hunters tokens for a while yet it got dumped, know you offer discounts to your early birds and make a good decision on that.

Very well said. We bounty hunters are doing our best to advertise their projects. We just wanted to earn money just like the most of us. We should be treated well.

You are right,  you know some team waits until when bounty tokens is distributed and they dump some token and put the blames on hunters just to cover up the wrong act they have just done. A lot of things going on that people don't know and the hunters are blamed

I don't think they'll do that, if the team are the one dumping, investors will know that and they will lose their confidence on the project.
That one does never come out in my mind honestly because it's not happening.

This is absolutely huge difference. It is close to fraud, because people who were not the early investors will lose money always with these odds. But ti doe snot mean that all projects has that difference.


Bounty dumps hard and depending on situation can ruin the price of any token. If you want proof ,analyze does projects who lock their bounty tokens vs those who do not.

thats right, bounty hunters help to spread the words about the project
why people should blaming the bounty hunters if the price down after listing on exchange, thats not fair
because, not all bounty hunters will dump their rewards as fast as they can do

This couldn't have been better said. This is the plight if bounty hunters, private sale investors cash out upon listing and bounty hunters are often blamed for the 'dump'.  A project I promoted (about 7months ago) just got listed after conducting and ICO at 0.001USD and an IEO at 0.0008 USD. Now investors are complaining and are blaming bounty hunters for the price dump when the project itself is confused as regards their own valuation of their tokens.

Each time I see people blame bounty hunters, I just laugh. Reason being that the percentage for bounty reward is usually a very small percentage of the total supply, so the selling of bounty hunters should be insignificant or negligible. Hunters are never the cause or dump of a project.

mostly fail project always blaming the bounty hunters and airdropers whos causing that, but just like you say, the reason is the team and project itself, whos bad of strategy and marketing team, and when rhe project fall in the price, they will blame that to hunters.

learn? is there anyone who really takes the bounty seriously to learn a new industry in cryptocurrency? I'm not sure of that. there are some of the bounty hunters who work full time and some are part time. it was their choice, and they must have counted what they could get.

There is the expression "scapegoat" - the so-called person punished for an offense that he did not commit. Developers are trying to make bounty hunters these scapegoats. And when people ask to support them and to unsubscribe in this or that subject of the project which deceived bounty hunters, the majority pass by.

if traders smart and look carefully at every  opportunities if be their advantages to take lowest price after bounty hunter dumped in market.no matter how many percents price drop.but we have to take it,but its only work on potencial projects.

Many of this projects will not stop blaming the bounty hunters unless something is done about it as they always use us as a scapegoat. Harmony project locked up bounty rewards when they offered even very low allocation to the hunters because the hunters are not good to be happy

there are several projects like that, but in the case of bounty hunter markets also have an important role to play in the growth of trade in the market. not all bounty hunters throw away their tokens after receiving them. I myself prefer to trade it and make it more.

This case is very serious and it is not only about early birds discounts. They the team dump their tokens and makes it look as if it were the dumpers that destroyed their coins price which is not the case in reality.
These days, the team do not get what they want to raise so the only way to get money is to dump their coins to get some funds in addition to the few they raised during tokensale

If there is ICO project that selling their token/coin 2500 times more than the price in private sale,
it will looks like a scam project for me. The normal ICO price usually only around 1.5x from private sale price.
And not all of the bounty hunters dump their token after receiving the reward, so the hunter should not be blamed.

Right at dot!! Good points.

Most of them find whatever excuses to cut the promotional costs by making changes after blaming bounties. It has become common nowadays. IMO I would blame BM since he is responsible to look out for this things and protect participants. That's why I always suggest: Avoid New managers or bounty manager who is associated with team.

I have participated in a project called SportsFix, which when doing the distribution process for bounty hunters is done in stages which is 25% per month, the method is done for teams, bounty hunters and advisors, only investors can get 100%, this method is done to avoiding a dump, but what happened was out of control, the price continued to dump until now, from this method we can see who is actually a dumper.

Exactly they won't blame the investors cos themselves are also the investors. When a project isn't competent enough  they tend to apportion blame. The investors I know are the biggest dumpers but who will blame them rather they blame hunters that are been given peanuts

The bounty hunters are not mainly responsible for the failure of a project. Most of the project sell their token at a very low price in private sale. During the ICO, Project gives a big discount and sale their token.  Because of all this, the price of token fall down. On the other hand, most of the project has no active team and they scam after ICO. Bounty hunter receives only a few token. So Stop Blaming Bounty Hunter!

In all cases, if the project fails, the organizers are tempted to blame anyone in order to evade responsibility to the vain expectations of all participants. And bounty hunters are first on the list of victims. But everyone understands this perfectly, and there is no point in looking for the guilty parties of the project’s inconsistency, since there is no time or desire for this.

one thing we seem to forget is that we always think the investor nee much ,money than the hunter but its not true. Most hunters really cherish their tokens are willing to hold unless otherwise.

Its a bad idea to always put the blame of price crash of any project to the bounty hunters when a coin is listed on any exchange no one blames the investors for dumping after all they want to recoup their profits hence dumping massively while no one put the blame on them its only the bounty hunters been on the receiving end the OP has proven critic of hunters wrong by giving out a detailed analysis of percentage distributions of tokens straight to the Point which is very laudable and commendable.

Before you blame Bounty hunters, you better evaluate the cause of price declines. I have the same opinion as you, that blame Bounty Hunter is not true. Investors have a larger number of coins, while bounty hunters have fewer coins. And we have to see the development of the coin, if the coin has a good development, of course, the coin will be back up again.

This thread is wrong in blaming the bounty hunters.

First, bounty hunters are mostly replying in this thread, they know and they defend what is right.
I am a bounty hunter and of course I will depend that bounty hunter is not the reason for dump, at least it overall perspective.

We can't blame hunters, because we're having freedom on the decisions that might occur after the long run. It's not only hunters who dumped their coins, but also those panic investors who always sell after the project ended. It now became a speculations that hunters dumped after the bounty campaign, but sadly those investors also did it much worst than the hunters.

I have now realised most project managers themselves do not know what really goes on in the market but keep blaming bounty hunters for what they have not done. They easily forget how wonderfully they served the early birds ignoring the fact that they are the possible ones to dump and still gain from the dump. It is high time project managers notify this problem and find reasons to solve it than blaming bounty hunters.

Hey OP,
Are you paying attention to some hypocrites developers who blames their failure on innocent hunters?

They are mostly just using that as an excuse to hold someone responsible for their scam, we have some professional scammers that has already planned it out, they lure investors with huge discounts, enter exchange, dump the token , so that the project can disappear, investors blames it on the developers for not being active, while developers shift blame on hunters for dumping, and then investors shift their blame too from developers to hunters, that is the end of the story, once investors accepts his or her faith and forgets about it, then they have professionally scammed without anybody tagging it as scam, but as a failed projects cause by the dumping of hunters.

Early project investors are the real dumpers and project devs and teams are the one making this mistakes over and over again,selling tokens to early presale investors at unbelievable price is the main problem affecting new projects,bounty hunters are not to be blame for this

It's true. Anyway, I think that now there are not real investors at all. Only bounty hunters ...

I think it is not completely true that bounty hunters will dump price of coins. Bounty hunters get their rewards for their hard work and none can throw their assets for peanuts. So bounty hunters are rather there to support a project.

what's interesting here is when the project team considers the bounty hunter to be a dumper ... lol
even though it is allocated for each project about 2% of the total supply, and even then it is still shared with all bounty participants in various categories. I am sure that not all bounty participants immediately sell when the project is first listed on the exchange, some of them will surely withhold what they get from the bounty program. sad indeed ... but this is happening right now, bounty hunters are victims.

I wonder why most bounty managers and project managers blame bounty hunters for dumping always. Bounty hunters are only given just less than 5% of the whole token allocation and how can such number or percentage have influence on the market? I s high time project managers consider the fact that even project that lock the tokens of hunters for a time even get dumped, who dumps then?

Indeed the Bounty manager shouldn't blame Bounty hunters.  Although the allocation of prizes for Bounty hunters is usually only 2%.  But it will be very influential when they jointly sell tokens at cheap prices in the market so that subsequent buyers do not dare to buy higher prices.

When bounty hunters dump tokens it sometimes affect the token pruce as well just like when early investors dump huge bags of the token,if the project is not good enough and managed by good teams this same problem will keep happening

It is rather unfortunate how some projects start to blame bounty hunters for the dumping of their coins. But ideally, how can bounty allocation of 1% to 5% yield the dumping of the entire token supply. Dumping comes from investors and the team of a project not bounty hunters.

We really need more transparency, those ICO's who offers that huge discount is just inviting investors to invest and then dump their coins for profit, any ICO would like to have a good start and they will offer a very high bonus percentage, so they can kick their campaign and their funding as early as possible.

I don't see the bounty manager blaming bounty hunter. Most of the investors are in projects with bounty, or the bounty hunter complains that why the token price is falling too much.

Most of the campaign project they always took the blame for bounty hunters when the price value of their token is dumping.
So most of them they are locking the token for the bounty participants after their main token sales. But this is very unjust honestly speaking.

This is for me a very poor and shallow excuse by the projects themselves. Bounty hunters cannot cripple a project if the project has a legitimate goal, marketing, investors, partnerships, economy, and so on and so forth. How could a very small portion of the entire coin supply cause a project to collapse? It is really an alibi that is only raised by mediocre and shit projects. Any good project could very easily move forward even if the entire bounty hunter community dumps their coins.

And also, bounty hunters are not plain fools for dumping promising coins. If the largest portion of the bounty hunter community dumps their coin, that means it is never a good coin to hodl.

Indeed, this blame is a tradition of almost all projects when their token is dumped after it is listed, they always think bounty hunters are the reason for this failure and ignore the explanation while the clear explanation for this story is the major investors in the ICO or IEO process, they accumulate and receive too many tokens at good prices, selling as soon as they are profitable is what they can do. Bounty hunters have no chance to do that, even they are just unlucky people, token is always locked and delays distribution, they can only sell when the price is too low

I absolutely agree with the opinions expressed. Bounty hunters with their 1% tokens can in no way influence the prices of the market. It is simply not possible with such a volume. Blaming the bounty hunters for a dump is just plain stupid.

This has always be my point that hunters are not the one dumping the price but investors , at least I had seen lots of project in this bear market that for 6mo the bounty hunters are yet to receive their reward and the token dumped 90+% , so who dumped them if not those that invest in it with huge bonus with aim of not lossing , because their funds is back to them and they still have bonus token left for future reference and here you are just claiming hunters are the cause but you also refuse to pay them for hard work by banning so many of them after a little question , I think this crypto space need some kind of rules to regulate its affairs.

These was the sad truth and they keep doing this all the time or as an alibis for their own lapses. the best example was the recently listed Xcrypt Exchange (XCT) token they change the rule after the bounty was already finish and locked the tokens for a month. But the results was boomerang to them the XCT token price was dump on its first day after listing and it was a proof that they were wrong about accusing the Bounty hunters of dumping the token price.

This is not true and should not blame to bounty hunters because bounty hunter did not the receive bounty reward early after the token sale and many months later, so this depends on investors and buyers and seller.

If the team was clever enough they should be distributing bounty tokens to the bounty hunters first so that when they choose to dump the tokens the same team can buy them back cheap and pump price to what restores prices to a better market for their investors.

Blaming bounty hunters is a cheap excuse if you ask me.

This is very correct, private investors buy as cheap as possible with a whole lot of token but bounty hunters are just given a very small percentage of the total Supply, and when the token dumps you see them blaming hunters that got almost nothing, it beats my imagination.

Well the truth is, both the bounty hunters and the team can be involved in this saga. Depending on the number of allocated tokens on a bounty we can easily  find out who manipulated the price.

I agree they give too many discounts for investors. Some even offer a discount of almost 30%. We must defend ourselves. Even worse, they cut the allocation they have promised. But they still blame the bounty hunter.

In general, it makes sense to blame someone for a fall in price. If a team starts to play a dishonest game, it immediately sees the community and tries to get rid of these tokens as soon as possible. No one will sell chicken laying golden eggs.

I wonder why bounty and project managers keep blaming bounty hunter for dumping? Why blame bounty hunters when you offer great deals to your early investors and when they start dumping, you begin to blame bounty hunters. Most projects locks bounty rewards for a specific time and yet still in the times of the locking, the token is being dumped, who is dumping? Its high time project manager recognize this and stop blaming hunters.

Not all bounty hunters do dumpers during distribution, now investors do it. they get lower prices at the beginning of the sale. I, as a bounty hunter, would definitely want the coins that I get can pump instead of dump. all depends on the quality of the project.

I do not see the point in blaming hunters as well. Every investor should blame team members if there was no buyback process, because such a simple thing solves all the problems. Hunters are happy, token price is not falling below the ICO price.

Doing a buy back is not necessary, and if there's a buy back, investors should be prioritize, not bounty participants.
The team is incharge in developing the project so they are the one who can decide on the best thing to do for the benefit of all, of course they can send the bounty reward but delaying the listing to avoid dump is also a good idea, at least a win-win for all and they should just launch at the right timing.

Agree with you!!!
Some bad, greedy person just want more token just make hunters's reputation worse, but hunters seem to be very badly treated, from ICO managers.
The latest one they paid token, sometimes don;t even paid enough as they promised.

Until when this statement stops.
That Never blame anyone when the price dumps. Just believe, if the project is good and has a good strategy in everything that is done by the project team. I am sure the price will follow in the future. If the token has entered the market, it is only 2 choices Dump or Pump. So, don't blame the bounty hunter for what happened in the market.

They will realize the power of bounty hunters when nobody will want to do it.
They think that we are earning millions of dollars for nothing. But always they can buy an advertisement, so why they do not do it?

On the off chance that developers aren't secure with how great their undertaking is they shouldn't present bounties for bounty hunters so they wont need to face issues of value dump when bounty hunters dump tokens. Developers should know better and be completely prepared to handle any issue that can cause their token to lose value

I agree with you giving a lot of bonuses means you must be prepared to experience a dump, because investors will sell it cheaply, all is not the fault of the bounty hunter, we here only receive 1% and are distributed to many participants, and all bounty hunters will not sell at the same time because some will hold tokens that get

A very useful article, you seem to be able to say the thoughts of most bounty hunters. Actually at the present time, not so many people can continue this work as a real career. What is the reason? I think part of it is because the bonuses from the campaigns they receive are too low. Besides, there are many campaigns they participate in and do not receive money after a long time. Therefore, it is difficult for them to continue this work. We often condemn the exploitation of labor and hire workers at cheap prices. So why is this still happening on the forum?

I have always wondered why hunters are been blamed for everything that goes wrong with the price of coin even when they are given very few tokens for work token and they forget to blame those that were given very huge bonuses

and now i remember some project who doing IEO on latoken and they will giving 100% bonus to the investor. before that i'm doing campaign for that project and now i'm thinking how the token price after IEO and they too much bonus :D i just hope they not blaming hunters if the price dump  ;D

Yeah. That could be. Who else could have a large portion of their own project? They can be those dumpers who make investors believe that bounty hunters are the one who caused the price. Then they will distribute the rewards to the hunters when the price is so dumped.

This is the real truth, project team always blame hunters for dumping coins, but most times, project teams are the one doing the real damaging and using hunters to cover up their bad deed. Thanks for shedding more light with this article.

Some project team are fund of putting the  blame on bounty hunters, which us why they are sometimes afraid to distribute.
I always prefer a project to make prior announcement on how it intends to distribute the tokens to bounty hunters. So e make the distribution in three phases, which is quite understandable. While some come up with flimsy excuses, even when they are refusing to pay.

Let's be true to ourselves, dumping coins was just a human nature and being into emotional struggles we can't prevent selling our coins when we're in need. Don't be too judgemental, and if other people blamed the hunters specifically I can also say the investors do so. Same situation might occur regardless whether you're bounty Hunter or an investor who did the trading. There's no exceptions here everybody should be blamed, and in order to control this we need to learn how to have control on our emotions.

Is just annoying how people blame bounty hunters when the price of tokens fall drastically. They don't just understand that bounty hunters also want to make high and cool cash just like the investors.

I wonder why bounty managers and project managers tend to blame bounty hunters  for dumping. In most cases, only few percentage is been allocated for bounty campaign, expecially 5% and if upon liting coin is being dumped, why blame such a percentage of people leaving the rest with the huge percentage. its high time project managers think about this and if they can't contain, pay hunters in btc and eth.

Yes, the blame has got to stop, we hold a very little percentage of tokens so I wonder where the allegation about dumping tokens is coming from. This is just another of those silly lies.

The blame is just pretty silly to be honest, how can you dump what you don't have? Even if all Hunter's decide to dump their tokens it will not be enough to kill a project. This death is projects is as a result of Devs becoming greedy.

I am not trying to defend my own profession, but bounty hunters cannot be blamed for decreasing coin prices, because in reality, bounty hunters only accept a small amount of coins from all supply, it doesn't make sense that bounty hunters are accused of being the cause of falling coin prices because in reality indeed there is no valid proof that the only coin selling bounty hunter, we never know there are people who might also sell in large quantities

Yeah they have a point there but they should not also overlooked that bounty hunters are the one who's promoting a project to boost its investors.

It is so unfortunate how bounty hunters are frequently blamed for the dump of a coin in the telegram group pages. It is clear indication of limited knowledge in how the tokens were allocated to the various sections of the project based on its development and road map. Bounty programs are usually given the least allocation, thus ranging from 1% to 5% of the entire token supply. So how can such small percentage dump the entire token supply?

I absolutely agree with you. Bounty hunters aren't the reason for price decreasing after the ICO sale, because the whole bounty budget is usually very small compared to the total supply. The real dumpers are the early investors who bought tokens with great discounts and got a great bonus, they dump early their tokens selling with cheapest rates.

Most project managers together with their board of advisors have never thought of this issue of early birds discounts as in its positive benefits and negative effects. Early investors are given such huge discounts and right after listing these investors dump as much as they could since they had some tokens for free and have nothing to lose and when this affects the price of the token, project managers and bounty managers tend to blame hunters for dumping meanwhile even less than 5% was allocated for the whole bounty project. Its time these managers stop blaming hunters for what they have not done.

I think there is nothing to be afraid of bounty hunters, because it won't be significant enough to dump the price.
You said bounty allocation is 3% ? I think there are no more than 2% allocation for bounty campaigns nowadays.
So, bounty hunter is not the reason for the falling price.

Some bounty hunters dump because the token price is reasonable on the dumped price. The team should be more active after the ICO or IEO is finished. If the team become less productive after it, it could really affect the price without some development of the promised project even it was stated on its roadmap. The most we could really blame is the team and not their early bird bonuses, dumping holders, bear market, FUD, etc. It was on the team's fault on why their altcoin's price is up or down. So in conclusion, bounty hunters are just a small part on why the price is going low.

They are only looking for scapegoats to cover up their inability to form a strong market network, thus blaming bounty hunters. The classic reason, they say, bounty hunters get free gifts, even though to get the tokens they have to work and support the project according to the rules. If the targeting strategy is not good, the project is not promising, then there will not be much demand in the market.

They should just stop this harassment on the bounty hunters and face those investors which get the project token at 50% discount. When such token is listed, the investor dump immediately. Beside, bounty allocation in most cases is just 2-5% of the token distribution. 

I agree and believe that teams should act much better, because they are just relaxing after raising several million dollars and do not care about the price in general. The easiest way is to blame hunters for a massive dump, but it is just not true.

The very system of selling tokens to early investors with a discount of 40 - 50 percent helps them to buy these tokens and immediately sell them on the exchange. So why blame the bounty hunter token price drop?
In order for tokens not to fall in price, you need a completely different approach. We need to stimulate the continued retention of tokens, and not worry only about the sale of tokens. The best thing in this case is to provide passive income.

right, if the price at the listing is in accordance with the price of the token sale, then the depositors are already 50% profitable, without waiting too long. Of course this investor has a bigger token, but I don't think that's wrong, because this is indeed business, so the team must try to convince investors not to sell their tokens right away, so the dump won't happen. besides that bounty hunter must also participate in the progress of a project, so that it can continue, with the mutual trust of all parties, the project will still exist

It's totally not on bounty hunters fault that prices of newly listed coins dropped. The allocated tokens are very low so it does not affect the price of the coin in the market. What I see are investors who got more bonuses that dumped their coins in the early phase of coins listing that's affecting the price in the market.

Great point! That's the truth. The people who hold the most tokens are Private investors and the team, which cause dumping when that token listed on exchanges if the project doesn't have a vesting schedule. Bounty hunters just received a few dollars for their works, and cannot effect to the token price.

indeed there are some people who think that bounty hunters cause price reductions, but in my opinion this is not entirely correct,
the allocation given to bounty hunters is not large so it may not be the cause of price reductions when coins are listed in the market

I wonder why bounty mangers, project managers and their advisors keep blaming bounty hunters for dumping. How much of a projects funds are mostly dedicated to bounty campaign, apparently less than 10% whiles team and investors keeps the rest and why blame bounty hunters for dumping whiles both team and investors too dump.

The huge percentage of the dumping is from the bounty hunters, the unnecessary tokens are not burned, these tokens are airdropped to the bounty hunters. Investors blame the team why they distributed the 4% of the bounty allocation to the bounty hunters and they are able to dump. The unanswered questions are there and I doubt no one will answer these questions in the future.  The bounty hunters deceived and they acknowledge why the bounty hunting becomes stressful step by step. New projects also reduce the bounty rewards used for dumping. The main idea is to decrease the dumping pressure with the distributed bounty coins among the hundreds of the bounty participants.

I don't think like that. If you know BCNEX, bounty tokens has not distribution yet, but the price of their token drops from $0.4 to $0.1. why it happen if dumping price because bounty hunters? It just an example, many project dumped before bounty tokens distributed.

I have just come to a realization that most project and bounty managers are just ungrateful and unappreciative for the good works of bounty hunters and immediately start blaming hunters whenever there is a dump of their coins meanwhile forgetting the early bonus they always give to early investors. It is due time project managers put an end to hunters blaming.

for now many projects are slowing distribution and of course they (investors / team projects) cannot blame the bounty hunter anymore and many I observe projects that do delays, but the price of their tokens is broken.

I wonder why people can't stop blaming bounty hunters and give them space to think about something important in their lives. Why blame bounty hunters as a project manager or as a bounty manager when token are been dump whiles you know how evidently you gave out huge bonuses to early investor forgetting these same investors will be the ones to dump. Hunters, investors and team all dump so why single hunters alone? People should ignore blaming hunters for no reason.

I think every bad project want give us Millon coin but this is not to be fare with my mind, I suggest you don't joined lot of bounty pool Project try to your hard work a small amount with a good popular exchange.

All right. As a rule, investors who own a much larger number of coins than bounty hunters destroy the price. However, they cannot blame themselves,
which is why they blame the bounty hunters who, if they wish, can bring down the price only if the coin is extremely low on the market since the start of sales.

Bounty hunters and airdrop participants are usually the scape goat when project developers seek to blame a set of people for their failure. All because they believe that Bounty hunters are not investors and a larger majority of hunters with inferiority complex take themselves for granted and that is why they are not respected as they should but rather blamed for every dump

Thanks for pointing out some important things. I used to do bounty hunting a long time ago, now I start it again! From that time to now, dome people just love to blame bounty hunters and they absolutely wring and they even know it. A lot of projects tanked even before bounty token release! So, people should stop blaming others!

If the project team can't secure the normal price of their coin and stop it falling, then it's a bad team. Bounty hunters do have very little influence, so it's pointless to blame them.

I had no idea that the first investors buy tokens so cheaply. Ordinary investors are probably shocked by how much they overpaid money.

The value of a coin or token after the ICO ends practically does not depend on bounty hunters. Almost 100 percent of the time it all depends on the integrity of the creators of the project.

all tokens or coins that have been held by bounty hunters or investors already have the freedom to sell or hold, so if anyone blames the bounty hunter is wrong, bounty hunters are very meritorious in the bounty program because they work very hard to promote the campaign.  so it's natural that all people do need money so stop don't blame each other

Bounty hunters are very dedicated to the work they have been doing but this has always been nothing to project and bounty managers. Bounty and project managers are ungrateful for the work of bounty hunters thinking bounty hunters are always the cause of dumping while at the same time forgetting the whole bounty allocation is less than 5% of total tokens and which is very hard for hunters alone to dump and also the bonuses dedicated to investors. It is time these project and bounty managers stop blaming hunters but rather appreciate their good works.

This writeup clearly show what is being going on behind the scenes and afterward, the blame is always on hardworking bounty hunters who put resources, energy, time and money together to make project a success. An additional advantage of hunters that Bounty Managers and project managers are not aware of is that hunters in most cases are also investors. They often invest, contribute financially to the ICO/IEO once they see the prospect of project is good one. But bad decisions from projects always cause the down fall. Next after that is a blame game and hunters are always at the receiving end. I can only hope that we have transparency to reveal who is really the bad actor.

This is true a lot of them take advantage of the earlybird promo, snd huges discounts that the developers never look at it as a hole in a projects , they also tolerate it, because as we know some projects doesnt care what happen to a projects they just want to sell all the coins , and also take profit, what should they really need to do is stop that kind of way or promotions, because its going to hurt the project badly that it will not going to see the project go further, because the holders with a big part is going to dump it once its listed, they should be making a clause that its just going to sell a part of it not dump it all

Many people will not accept this because no one from the bounty will not ask to allocate higher amounts to the bounty. Even if the value of the coin decreasing and they will blame the bounty hunters, why don't they think in a different way a person who is holding a higher amount coin will sell them in order to decrease its value.

Those project who blame bounty hunters are stupid, greed, cheater,  obviously they're making alibi only.
In fact, most of the time the one who dumped the price is their no. developer who made the token of course. Then, transparency
for the project is very hard to find now in every project. They're good only to collect fund but for giving a rewards is not.

Developers still the wide control of their projects, if the team is there only for collecting funds then blaming games is expected. They will continue pointing fingers and most of the time it's the hunters that being labeled. How come, 1-5% of the entire supply can harmed the entire value of the token? no way. but in reality, it's the developing team together with the early investors who have a huge rewards.

I don't think it is entirely right to always blame bounty hunters whenever their is a decline in price of a project, I know some hunters do sell their reward in haste while some don't, individual choices,
but looking at it from the little percentage mostly allocated to bounty, it shouldn't have such impact on price compare to the bonus given to early buyers or private investors,
I guess it's more convenient to blame hunters for price dump because it is given for free even though hunters did put their effort to promote the project.

In the first place, it's not given free because there is a condition or task they have to do in order to receive the reward.
Some bounty hunters already considered bounty hunting as a job, therefore their reward is considered as a salary, and if they dump that is their will, and take not that they also loss value when they dump so its not the investors only who lose their money but the bounty hunters as well.

I agree with your opinion ... don't always be a bounty hunter who is blamed as a dumper ... actually we all know that the discount (%) given to investors is also very large ... so in the case of dumper don't always be a bounty hunter blamed as a dumper ...

The amount allocated to the bounty pool is generally very small compared to the total supply of tokens, so I agree that we can't blame bounty hunters for dumping the price. Usually, the dumpers are the early investors who bought the tokens with huge bonuses, sometimes even more than 50% bonus, so they receive their tokens with half ICO price and then sell them with cheap rates.

Bounty hunters will work a long times for the payments than their reward is precarious if which project will not reach the goal. There are no exact deadline because in most of the bounty campaign increase the weeks limit. A couple of months will spend in every single campaign than if received payment why they have to keep hold so that majority of the hunters will go to sell first. Projects team harassed bounty hunters in many different ways like as KYC process.                   

This things should be considered by the project owner if they dont want to dump thier token then pay bounty hunters in other crypto like ETH or make a buy order to buy them from bounty hunters . Once the payment recieve by bounty hunters more of them choose to sell and even owner know that ,then why not just put a buy support in exchange so the price will not be affected from selling.

Every time it is not a good idea to blame the bounty hunters because even investors are getting a higher percentage of bonus during their purchase. The % allocated to the bounty is not assigned by the managers, but from the company directly. It is not a good way, to blame the bounty hunters always.

Allocated funds for bounty hunters should be consider as bitcoin or other form of crypto, it won't affect the trading after being listed if the project developers properly allotted  the rewards. The hunters deserve the fruit of their works they shouldn't be blamed.

Developers needs to plan everything they have to settle every possibilities and not to blame anyone with their failures.

That's true, stop blaming bounty hunters. I am bounty hunter more work in translation of whitepaper and annonce, i waste more than week to translate single whitepaper and than get that the project its scam. its really make me angry and just want stop hunting.
what is with those hundred scam project. scams everywhere . if its not scam than low project that told coin price is 0.5$ and get 0.0000000001$ -_-
i just can return time to past ,good projects and teams. not like now everyone just want thief and scam others ,what a shame with those

sorry but its really not good in that fact.
hope someone get idea to eliminate those scammers.

Likely things changes a lot from past years but the number of hunters increast atleast 100 times more from the last year then how we can eliminate scammers if people ready to promote anything?

And this topic is more about the dump on the price happened by bounty hunters,which is really not a case with the scam projects because they never give an opportunity for them to dump it. ;D

make every earning possibilities even bounty hunting is also a one of the best option for cryptocurrency users and bitcointalk members. So as you plan for bitcoin signature campaign there is no problem on working with them.
As like the same BTC payable campaign we can expect decent growth on working for bounty campaign also but that should be true.

Sometimes not all bounty hunters sell their tokens when the tokens first enter the market, so it is not possible for prize participants to make dumping prices on the exchange, even tokens for participants in the lock for a long time to avoid this dumping. Decrease or increase in price can actually be by the intervention of the developer, so the developer can raise the price and not make it dumping.

Well said buddy :)
This have become the normal trend in the crypto world, developers either blame the price downtrend on airdroppers or bounty hunters haven forgotten that only a little percentage of the tokens was allocated to them.

Another big mistake most erc-20 based projects make is distribution of tokens before market listing, this makes some impatient investors want to liquidate their holding through dex like forkdelta, hence price starts dipping even before listing.

In my own opinion, I think bounty hunters have little or no blame at all afterall, they worked for their earnings and even if they threaten the dump of the project's token, then measures should be taken by the team such as token buyback to prevent the occurrence of price dump.

I agree with the assessment of the project team to the bounty hunter as a dumper ... because many bounty participants sell their coins at very cheap prices ... because many of the bounty hunters consider that they get the coins without having to spend money in the form of capital ... so they want sell at any price ... while investors spend capital to get the coin ... so that at a low price they won't sell it because they will definitely lose .. so it's natural that they blame the bounty hunter as a dumper of altcoins ..