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If dumpers can dump coins and tokens in a reasonable way it won't affect the value much , lose in value when dumping happens if a dumper dumps huge amount of the token at once , this is a wrong way to dump coins, this is why till date some devs put locks on their tokens ,some even release percent by percent on term basis just to avoid huge dump.

The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once

you cannot stop people who wants to dump their tokens..mostly those who are dumping are the investor.. dev should lock also the half of investors holding to prevent at one time dumping

There is no stopping a person with large amount of tokens to dump and hit the floor. It will have an impact even with just small amount all the more with hundred thousands. Devs wouldn't be locking these tokens if there is another way. Some dev are just distributing 1/3 tokens per month.. That will slow down the dumps giving time for the real investors to sell the first but the inevitable still happens.

Your idea may work if there is a real demand for the coin, if not, that idea won't work and the price will dump no matter what you do. In fact, if there is demand for the coin or token, dumps are not a problem since the price recovers sooner or later.

I don't think you understand market dynamics, the most important thing is liquidity, there are some project that selling just a token of 0.1BTC will likely crash their price because there is no or little buying order for them, but there are some that selling 100BTC will get filled up in a matter of minutes

There isn't anyway dump can be handled because demand is always way far below supply and as such price won't hold. If you notice once a coin starts to dump, people on alert quickly remove their buy orders those who get filled by the dumpers are order set way below current price. If sell and match buy dump is curtailed

Personally, I now try not to keep unstable projects and sell immediately, as soon as they appear on the stock exchange. The market situation is very unstable, few projects are growing - basically everything is falling. The price is specially dumped so that later you can buy cheaper!

Some projects are adopting a new strategy in which they will only distribute a little fraction of the allocated bounty tokens on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, this will ensure that there is enough time for liquidity and the token will be near stability.

Well, everyone gets to buy and sell as they please.
When someone wants to sell off something, the natural tendency is to just sell it all off.

But, there is a better solution than just trying to stop people from dumping.
It is to have actual utility in the token, giving it high demand and high trading volume.
I would say around 90% of new projects list their tokens when their project has no product yet or their coin has no use.
That is just about the worst thing a business can do.
If you throw your coin out there and all there is is speculation.
People will dump it, crashing the price and basically ruining it's initial value.

Don't fight the dumpers, let the devs and project teams do this. You'd better start using these pumps and dumps to earn cash :) Every price movement is a possibility, one can't earn anything only if the price doesn't move at all :)

Even do in a first come up of the coins they are a dump price will be happen so we expected on that also. So that we cant stop those people are want to dump the price of it as a bounty hunters we need to do on that is to hold our coins for a long time because we dont want to sell our coins into a low of price coins.

Its actually not possible to stop anyone or control the way people dump coins. I think most people dump their coins based on their perception about a particular project. If a project have good future then people won't dump it but if the future is shady then investors don't even care to dump at loss.

Although i do agree that selling or holding a coin is the sole choice of the person who have them but i also agree that sudden dumping is not good think it creates panic among other investors and holders as well and also project looses value and trust, a better way to dump is to setup sell orders at reasonable price levels, filling up low priced buy orders is never a good idea.

Actually, what is the purpose of dumping coins? Is it to stabilize the price of the coin? Whatever the conditions, in my opinion, this is not a good idea to make the coin more valuable. Indeed, sometimes there is a need for a market correction, but it does not mean to dump the price even though the amount is limited. If everyone thinks like this, then what is the fate of the coin?

Do you think crypto currency dumps and pumps by selling or buying small quantities??

No, tokens can only propel well if there are wholesale buy and sell orders.
In a decentralized world; there is freedom to do as you please; which includes freedom to buy or sel at will

The dumpers will never try to dump it at once when they are not feeling panic about that dude, in fact, that the dumpers wanna get the high price by liquidating their amount slowly but the problem is there was on only a single person who dump the market.

Nothing can stop them. With tokens listed on many exchanges, dumpers will deposit their money to multiple exchanges to sell. You cannot stop them. With tokens listed on many exchanges, dumpers will deposit their money to multiple exchanges to sell at the best price. The only way now is to distribute the token according to a vesting schedule.

A dump is a dump bro, there is no special dump its just like slow poison and aaquick poison, which ever way the end rest is death, this implies that the dump Wil be more effective on market price if the demand for that coin is low, but if it is high the market absorbs the dum and it moves on
I think most developers are the worst dumper believe me

You can't change the mind of token holders,they will dump when they see fit,so the best way is still the locked down of tokens by devs or teams

That is because users easily panic with dumps, indeed that avoids the big effect of dumping values, so we have to drop it gradually with a value that is a bit so the pause from the dump can generate even a small demand, we know some people will buy coins if their value decreases to get a lower value. I think it's the same if the coin does not have good growth, because indeed the absence of demand and the price that goes down gradually will have the same effect as the huge dump.

actually the drop in price has nothing to do with size of the amount the dumpers dump on the market. it is all about lack of demand for tokens and altcoins that are useless. so it doesn't matter how much and how you dump the tokens it will crash the market since there is nobody there to buy that token anyways. everyone has just gambled and invested in that token to try their lock in a short term to see how much they can pump it and how much profit they can get. as soon as they feel like the pumping fuel has run out, they make their exit.

But who cares about this, I'm sure a dumper will become a dumper. Dumper doesn't care about this, so they are called dumper. Oh yes, dumping is not only for large quantities of sale, but dumping occurs even though the quantity of sale is small but the quantity of dumper is high. They will continue to race to sell at low prices, I often see dumping on new coin lists on the market.

Your idea is very ideal and I think that is not applicable in real world. We don't have the right to say to someone that you should do this or that because they own that tokens. I think we need to find a way how they will dump it gradually but they will benefit more if they do that  I hope we can come up with the idea to do it. Reward system is still the best among all strategies and I think it will work.

Real talk, you can't "make" someone to dump or sell their bag in your "reason way" that dump little by little and not all in one go. Even devs try to lock or force their way into people's bag, they can't prevent the inevitable.

Dump means selling huge amount of coins at the same time. If someone want to sell coins without dumping price, s(he) should do it gradually, by selling small amought of coins gradually. Small amount means small enough to not dumping price. So, time is key too. Selling slowly, hours, or  maybe days to avoid dumping price and create panic.

How about a whale methode, went he pump the price to make all people put the order after a lot people put the order and we have a big order book. He started the dump, just like you only need 1 BTC to pump and make a people put the order, the whale started to dump with estimation 10 BTC. Just like trade 1 BTC to 10 BTC.

It doesn't matter to sell lots of tokens if the purpose is not to damage the price, and in fact, it has become the right of those who have tokens to sell or not. For the distribution of bounty payments in stages it is not too influential to prevent price declines, even a decline continues

Whales, with their huge funds and huge amount of coins, have to move very slowly and silently. So, they can not dump all their coins at once without serious impacts on price. They have to do it gradually, and it is an art of whales. They usually sell their coins over time, weeks with some bumps along the road in order to keep price as high as possible for them to sell and get as much funds as possible.

Anyway, we will not be able to change the situation with the actions of large whales, who will always manipulate the cryptocurrency market in order to get more income.  perhaps what is happening today in the cryptocurrency market is due to their fault.

If the dumpers have huge amount of token this actually have a great impact in the market. If the Team are financially capable, they can buy the dump and still stabilize the price.

The major reason for tokens to lose value is because simultaneous dumping from bounty participant, they get only little part of the total token but that little part is the major part of the circulating supply, that's why the effect of hunters dumping is always more effective negatively.

If you are one of the big investors then it wont matter.
Selling at one point where there is profit already is a good decision.
Why would they wait for it to go back to a 20 percent loss where everybody is selling if you could do it right away.

Just like what is happening with bitcoin, no one can stop it.
We have our own choices here and that is one hell of a good feature for most of the time rather than being a bad one.

I agree with you. Selling tokens in bits will not affect the price so much, however dumping huge amounts at a specific time affects the price very much.

Do you remember what happened with the BTCUSDSHORTS which were suddenly cleared off Bitfinex without hardly ever any affect on price back on June 30th?

Basically over 20000 BTC were claimed and it didn't affect the price at all since the shorter just covered his position by providing the shorted bitcoins.

That is one way to dump without having a large impact on price. Because he sold little by little instead of making a huge deposit and nobody took notice. If 20000 BTC was sent from a whale to an exchange then people would notice and front-run him by shorting before the transaction gets confirmed. Hence he did what he did not to get spotted.

The simplest way is to just ensure the token has sufficient liquidity. Obviously if they are listing on a trash exchange, or have some very large bounty token holders then it can be quite easy to dump the market.

To avoid this I would just lock the tokens in the smart contract until it either has utility, or is listed on an exchange with at least $50 million daily trade volume (top 50).

You got perfect best team ever when they want to buy all dip price. By now, Team don't have finacially capable to do that, they only hope by investor to buy back dip and make it stable, or try to geting new investor and endorsing to social media and news official.

right, we can't control dumper.
they have their own thoughts, but if the development team is able to develop the project very well, investors will re-assess and i think the dump will be a little restrained, their projects will slowly grow again and bring many new buyers to come.

Indeed, because market movements change because of the actions of users and investors, no matter how much capital you use to dump, it will still affect the market, even if it's small. there is no way for you to dump without influence. back again on the dev strategy so that their coin market does not drop when a dump occurs, such as managing well disitribution of token on the market

The way I do it is that I will really be watchful of the accumulated amount. This is also the proper way to dump so as not to affect the market much. I am always careful not build a sort of a sell wall that would only compel other sellers to sell their own shares at a much cheaper price. Although this has a lot to do with the volume as well, it is much better to spread your sell orders.

selling small amounts wont cause a dump , the op already said it but that if all people will unite or will agree with that terms  but i dont think itll happen since some of us are in-need of a huge sums of money  .  there were also whales that will sell huge amount of cryptos just to manipulate  .

 @op  , dump means huge fall in the price    . you should use different terms such as "decrease" or  " small decline of the price" if you hate the dump  .

Agree, if the project is good and the developer team solid with the project being done, investor confidence will recover. The price dump on altcoin at bearish market is normal because investors tend to secure portfolio value and there is fear of market movements. But if the team can convince investors that the project continues to run according to the roadmap, investor confidence will surely recover

There are many way a dumped can be influenced. Firstly, no matter how a coin will be dumped. A good one will still grow organically. Exchange is very important especially now that many projects are not getting much investors. If the token is not listed on exchange with large traders, the token will be dead on arrival. Many project this days contribute little or zero money to development. They always rely on money being raised. Some do not even have many to properly build a website not to talk about partnership agreement. Such project will continue to struggle until it remain dead.

That's one good strategy. It would be better if the situation allows to buy-back after a dump occurs. But we have to really analyze the market conditions, volume, and strategies and good communication between the developer and the network.

I think that investors are a minority. most people in the market are speculators looking for short term profits.

I don't think there is a good or bad way to dump. It depends on the strategy of the dumper. If he think that the coin is going to dump hard, he will dump his stack the most fast as possible before other people.
And maybe he is dumping his coin because there is no more buyers. If there is a lot of buyers, the coin should not dump too hard.

I agree.  Very good way.  It is very important to properly distribute your capital.  This is half the success.

You really can't control people how they should spend their money. Project team should device a mechanism in place that will make investors always want to hold their tokens and not just come up with an idea and later perform poorly in project execution. Investors will be scared at such low performance. 

lol as if you can do that seeing your coins dumping the value continuously ?when your folio started to decrease the prices?no man you cannot handle that situation

we can easily advice everyone but the truth?we cannot apply for ourselves

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lol what if you coin is higher on the specific exchange?will you still consider doing such?this is depending on the situation i guess mate

Still dumping can contribute more harm than good, any form of dumping is bad for the project's token price specially when the token/coin has no demand or utilization it will easily affecting the price stability and ended up no value so if everyone value and believe the project they invested dont dump just hold it and wait the right time to sell it at good and profitable price.

Bounty hunters and investors are in a hurry to claim their rewards and profit, but  if the project is good and legit and has something great to offer to the community, the dev need not worry, true supporters and investors will come to buy the dump and create demand on their token, the dev just need to continue working on their project.

The sale of tokens in large quantities I think can not be stopped. But if the dev tries to restrict or lock the token for a while. I guess the coin price will be more stable. But if the Token has a great developer team, I think even though many people are throwing out tokens, the price of tokens will definitely return.

Why invest in a the token in the first place if you are going to dump everything later?  I think we should invest in projects we believe in. This will help reduce the amount of undeserving projects that litter the crypto space.

Agreed. When we started Nyancash (NCH) we battled over to how we would give the token value. We settled on providing Ethereum dividends to people to hold the token from the fees from the exchange, and we launch in August. By staking tokens, you get to participate in the rewards of free Ethereum each month. www.nyancash.com

Really? It will work? Actually, the ways for dumping the token price in the crypto market has been very popular. For many people, this may be one of the ways or strategies, for others, they are tired of waiting or need cash as soon as possible. However, to dump with certain ways you mentioned may be interesting, but, I don't know whether it can work for all investors or not.

A good project doesn't have to be affected by dumping and come to think of it, even the lock doesn't stop the dumping as believed. I believe the essence of people acquiring token is to sell

Are investors ever reasonable in their dumping, do they have the heart to even think of the system? When it comes to investment in cryptocurrency, most investors only think of their pocket and so long that their pocket can be full, they don’t care what happens to the coin, this is the same way that the whales operates too.

I think the only people that still cares a little about a particular project they have investment in are market makers or when there is an involvement of institutional capital, they don’t just dump everything they have at once knowing fully well the impact it will have on the system. No investor will willingly not want to dump large amount of their token when they see profit, the only place where the control can come from is from exchanges and from the developers, they can just limit the amount they can withdraw within a particular time frame.

You are right, many investors will not be pissed. They do not even wait for the coin to grow to the required price. Immediately sell a large number of assets. I saw how they fold 2,000,000 tokens.

Would have been easier if  one can control token holders but its not possible,every holder has right to sell or hold token since they own it,let's leave this fight to developers

The only possible way to counter any FUD that happens to the project. Remember the holders will never try to dump their coin without any reason that pushes them all to do that. The dump can't be prevented and that's the best way to counter the possibility of dump caused by any FUD or bad news.

when a dump occurs, I will buy coins or tokens, and sell 50% of some tokens or coins that I get from bounties or airdrop. the tokens or coins I buy will be held until the market bull run.

Scammers do not think this way, they can dump a particular coin to zero and off they leave. Dumping is not a bad thing but dumping till a coin loses its worth and draws attention off them is worse. Volatility can attract traders but a coin that is continually dumping is a turn off. Electroneum for instance has never made any reasonable recovery and it shows a continuous dumping and price keeps taking

Ideally, dumping in parts will help to avoid a quick drop in price but in the real sense, most people just dump everything at once especially when they feel the token or coin will dump more or when they feel the project doesn't have prospects. I think this is something we can't control In exchanges but it can be curtailed by locking and gradually releasing a percentage of the coins for private investors who buy bulk of the coins or for bounty hunters who may decide to dump at any price since they didn't invest.

Agree but, every people have their own thoughts, you can tell people to sell their coin percent by percent  to avoid huge dump but not all people will obedient, you cant stop people who want to sell their coin instant

So about the dumper, just relax, if you think the coin is potential buy their coin

Right, there will be a reason why they dump their coin. However, I think investors are smarter and will not be affected only by FUD. I'm more sure they did a dump because of bad news or so long without the latest news about the project.

It depends on the trading volume. If you have big trading volume, then it is not easy to cause a big price movement.
But if you have low trading volume, then one small trade could make a big price movement.

What do you exactly mean by "reasonable" way? Does not matter how you dump your tokens. The price will always be determined by demand and supply. If you slowly dump your tokens but the demand for the token is low, then the price will eventually go down. The process will be slow, but the price will do down in the long run. The same thing will happen if you dump your tokens at once. This time, the price fall will be instant but when the equilibrium is reached in the long run, the prices will be the same as the one when the tokens were dump slowly.

The only way to dump tokens without affecting the price is using an OTC, but once it involves exchanges and huge volume of token, the price will be affected except there is huge demand for the token.

What are you trying to justify, you want to justify why these developers are delaying distributing tokens or locking their tokens, this could only mean that their token is a pump and dump coin and it has nothing to offer they are afraid that it will eventually dump because they run a shit project.

This call of OP is a call that can never happen, for as long as we have people without conscience,  it is only conscience that can prick the dumpers and push them to make a reasonable move as regards their dumping of token, but since money is involve, the God of mammon would not allow them to think straight.

So, the best way to just handle this is for developers to continue working hard to build the project, if they have a real product with use case, no matter the dumping that has occurred, there will always be opportunities to get investors or users that will continuously place demand on the remaining token which will turn the table round and make the value starts to grow again, then they also need to reduce the amount of token they give as interest.

Whenever people sell huge amount of coins/ tokens, price will be dumped, whoever sell those coins/ tokens. No one can control such dumps.
Projects are unable to grow if they can not release good products, good use cases.

There is no real way to put this in motion unless the tokens aren't distribute to bounty hunters yet or there is some form of limited sale for every one which wont happen,this is not something to worry about since smart developers always have a good solution for dumps

But what to say on this issue? We all know that a good project gives X after entering the stock exchange. All other projects are simply not interesting. When the price of the project when entering the stock exchange falls 10 times and this is not due to dumps. Simple do not want to buy it.

If they don’t even need to worry about a high-level project, investors themselves will drive up the price.

indeed there is nothing that can prevent people from dumping coins, but it can still be limited by locking a few percent of the total allocation obtained, so that those who can sell only a few percent of the coin distribution within the specified time period

If the project has no future and the dev themselves are dumping their token, you will also in a hurry to dump the token, dumping token is a sign that investors are losing trust on the project, and you don't want to be late in dumping a shitcoin, it's nightmare seeing that you cannot sell your token anymore.