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Title: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Betwrong on July 15, 2019, 12:00:17 PM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

Quote
"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 12:23:03 PM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

Quote
"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

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rip usd,euro, and other shit out there soon...-->>

when the room is full of people which dont know to figure out simple*  things not talking about medium and complex pazzels  its huge shit yet smart people DEBUNK THE*M FAST , the same with the web which dominated by scams and other shit information and come from people with fake credibility...which are far away from the truth and dont know trace simple things not taking about complex operation like wiki leaks and bitcoin and other great underground projects.
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Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.
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search on the web

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
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shitty people always try to steal great projects until smart people debunk their fake shit ass..
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Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 12:33:34 PM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

Quote
"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

and remember that all what i write  is HARD CORE REALITY FACTS AND NOTHING MORE, compare to all the fiction going here like satoshi is one person or bitcoin sv is the founder and other shit ... or satoshi is some smart kid .. bullshit.

sum it again

1. bitcoin operation come from people and no one person.
2. wiki leaks operation million time bigger then bitcoin and when journalist get info from them they receive it under one name which ironaclly this name dont lead non where ...its done with other underground projects which you dont even know which also come under one name yet behind this name is nothing hhhhhhhh
3.  after bitcoin explode soon from no where yes from no where come team called *cicada 3301* which search people skilled in cryptograhpy and have huge sharp logic!!!


rather the bullshit you spread and other here like conspiracy theories  or its one man behind bitcoin.

dont forget paypal and others was ban wiki leaks from get donations which in this point some people start to understand there are something very fishy but hell fishy to ban website like wiki leaks that expose all the shit happen here which ironically needed to be exposed by agents all around the world yet its underground people do.

Daphne Caruana Galizia was killed in very short time for exposing hell of shit, she receive the info under weird name which lead no where.

operations like bitcoin and wiki leaks and cicada 3301 runs by global team its cannot be the other way.

do you know how much people around the world try to trace the minds behind wiki leaks and cicada 3301 and they get to nothing,

do you know the minds behind of wiki leaks meet each other and they move under different names around the world.

people like mark zuckerberg  or even top agents from all countries only will dream to be part of this kind operations as wiki leaks its the biggest leaks done in the entire histroy and agents dont have the skills to get this kind of info and they fucking army of people backed by shitty salaries which spy on each other like clowns and in reality they are dumbes in alot of verticals and simple things dont know, compare to the people behind bitcoin and cicada and wiki leaks and others which most of this people know to make* huge amount of money and do things which in movies dont exist.

cicada 3301 ** the biggest operation in the entire history searching people with huge sharp logic. they went viral forever.

bitcoin operation the biggest in the entire history also disrupt industry of more then 25 trillion dollars and put out the governmnets and banks and other shit of this game forever,

REALITY SHIT NOT FICTION ,


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Naida_BR on July 15, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.
Everyone would claim that they are Satoshis but no one will be ever be able to prove it.
More and more speculations are about to be brought in public as the times goes. And the sad thing is that I believe that Satoshi is someone who is associated with illegal activities, and this may be the reason why he hides his identity.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 12:39:26 PM
do you know the minds behind wiki leaks can leak everything about the FBI and its kids game for them as they exposed shit which the fbi them self cannot get, and FBI is the top compare to all other countries , other countries for wiki leaks its kids and i far away from kidding , WHO GO DEEP THE RABBIT HOLE KNOW ALL THIS...

just for think for a moment about this ....


then suddenly come bitcoin...

and then cicada 3301

which are all of them root to wiki leaks minds

it cannot be the other way...

all the hints out there as

there are other people hint that peer to peer file sharing will make finical freedom...before bitcoin came out


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 12:44:42 PM
I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.
Everyone would claim that they are Satoshis but no one will be ever be able to prove it.
More and more speculations are about to be brought in public as the times goes. And the sad thing is that I believe that Satoshi is someone who is associated with illegal activities, and this may be the reason why he hides his identity.


only from your own words your logic function inside your head is broke and leave his game or you will lose your pants,,with this kind of logic

because some of the people behind this operation hint that something come and it involve with cryptograhy and peer to peer tech.

and almost everything can be traced on the web ask expert security on the web ,
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state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.

i dont going to name who said this and not expose to much because the ones that said it he is one of the topest minds behind wiki leaks, he also hinted about cicada 3301 operation way before it came. who know to trace will get to this.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world-


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: BrewMaster on July 15, 2019, 12:46:10 PM
yeah, i agree with AA. too but it is not up to us to put an end to this type of discussion. people will always be interested in theorycrafting about things like this that are covered in a shroud of mystery. Satoshi is like Bigfoot, we will never know what it really was but there will always be people who continue believing in it and discuss about it passionately.

the only thing that we should put an end to, and is our responsibility to do so, is scumbags who try to pretend to be Satoshi and abuse that identity.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
illegal activities, and this may be the reason why he hides his identity.



they anonymous in whatever they do on the web....

there are projects which was done on the web which not associated with crypto AND ALL OF THEM IS UNDER ONE NAME WHICH LEAD NO WHERE...

you just live inside your dumb cube which barely know anything in this life, and here it even more worst you surrounded by people like you the end results is crap shit burn,



Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: proTECH77 on July 15, 2019, 12:51:43 PM
I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.

This type of discussion will not close from cryptocurrency enthusiasts because it has a mystery that people want to see behind Bitcoin, they would want to know that who are behind the technology either as an individual or a group of persons, they would also want to know the family of the creators and at last be able to know their company and country of residence. It will be unending discussion from now to eternity.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 12:56:18 PM
yeah, i agree with AA. too but it is not up to us to put an end to this type of discussion. people will always be interested in theorycrafting about things like this that are covered in a shroud of mystery. Satoshi is like Bigfoot, we will never know what it really was but there will always be people who continue believing in it and discuss about it passionately.

the only thing that we should put an end to, and is our responsibility to do so, is scumbags who try to pretend to be Satoshi and abuse that identity.


do you know one of the topest minds of wiki leaks also hinted bout cicada 3301 and they have the same point of view about privacy and freedom and other shit....



people here without any deep analyze and searching how things works on the web just out put the crap inside their head and what scare smart people is they feel smart in the same time


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Indamuck on July 15, 2019, 01:01:42 PM
It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.

This type of discussion will not close from cryptocurrency enthusiasts because it has a mystery that people want to see behind Bitcoin, they would want to know that who are behind the technology either as an individual or a group of persons, they would also want to know the family of the creators and at last be able to know their company and country of residence. It will be unending discussion from now to eternity.


ask expert in security and he will say you everything can be traced on the web, but fucking everything and if not there are* hints, people just dont know* how to get this and much more.


only 00.2% know to be fully anonymous and wiki leaks minds are the ones uses this ways to hide the trace about them in what ever they do and even more most of them move from country to country under different names, to mask the trace after them,

as edoward snowdan leaked about the FBI and escaped to china under different name and their people waited him to hide him..

good morning mate this is REALITY FACTS  8)


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:11:07 PM
It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.


you fucking so stupid mate mercy on your soul in whatever you do with this kind of logic


as peer to peer tech  in whatever vertical kill the central power if it few main servers in peer to peer file sharing or peer to peer money which put out the banks which pay taxes to governmnets , the same with paypal and bunch others which pay taxes to governmnets ,

peer to peer money also put the goverments out of the chain,


only crazy people and i mean crazy people like you think governmnets will build peer to peer money ??? its kill banks and paypal and bunch others which all this industry is much mre then 25 trillions dollars which the govermnenst take taxes... .hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you fucking crazy and your logic dont work go see doctor fast.

peer to peer kill centralized power like banks,paypal, govermments and other...

did you forget centralized file sharing of movies and mp3 and software was shutdown preety fast by governmnets because they located the main servers that hold all the info and then people build peer to peer file sharing(decentralized tech) which our private computers are the servers that hold the info and the govermnets need to shut down now more then 500 million private computers and it cannot happen.

mercy on your soul


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:25:02 PM
It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.


mic drop mate before you output crap from your head educate your self about the root of peer to peer tech, the oldest tech in the space which still grow like monster...

while other techs was died and replaced and died and replaced while peer to peer monster like PACMAN eat everything.

centralized file sharing is when few main servers hold all the info and computers all aorund the world download the stuff and dont depend on each other,

and just know the right worm in place in the min servers and you have access to all this computers, and governments pretty fast locate this main servers and shit down them

from here burn peer to peer tech(decentralized tech) which there is no main servers and our private computers are hold and download/upload the info which mean maybe you download movie from your friend ip hhhh

now the governments need to shut down more then 500 million computers,,,

governments/banks/storage companies they fear peer to peer tech as they fear fire

...


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:27:51 PM
CSW is satoshi  8) and BSV is the real bitcoin  8)














lol jk  ;D


hhhhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: bitcampaign on July 15, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
until now it will not end this discussion, almost in all bitcoin forums is always full of questions about who is Satoshi Nakamoto, who and where, but I believe satoshi is all of us who have become a part of it, I always believe that satoshi is a person who good in my mind


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:29:50 PM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

Quote
"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

I think who Satoshi Nakamoto does not matter because nobody even know who he is whether it's just a screen name or real name. What matters most is his creation which revolutionize monetary system into digital aspects.


ranely123

either you blind or you glasses are not clean for sure, there more hints that bitcoin is going  to come and most of this people are part of wiki leaks

here it again

search on the web

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI was really on the web before bitcoin come
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
===================================================================================
How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
====================================================================================


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:34:02 PM
until now it will not end this discussion, almost in all bitcoin forums is always full of questions about who is Satoshi Nakamoto, who and where, but I believe satoshi is all of us who have become a part of it, I always believe that satoshi is a person who good in my mind

with dumb people you never know where its end,

with smart people they will fucking trace everything , whatever ...

the problem is not satoshi team, the problem is people not educated and simple things cannot figure let alone complex pazzels ...

the problem is with dumb people this never will end and the amount of crap shit info is only grow.

HERE FOR YOU AND I CAN PUT MORE PEOPLE WHICH HINT ABOUT BITCOIN AND CICADA 3301 AND ALL OF THEM PART OF WIKI LEAKS.

wiki leaks can leak evrything about the FBI do you get what minds behind this team, hell if you can get this point you are far away from the ball park.

search on the web

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI
================================================================================
someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
===================================================================================
How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
====================================================================================


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: TimeBits on July 15, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
I don`t know but if he comes back he could charge people for his signature using bitcoin. They send him .1 and he sends them .01 back from the genesis address or the 2nd address, I would do it. I wonder of those bitcoins would sell for more lol.

Anyways AA is right, it does not matter who made it, rather what it is and what it does, verifying with math or trusting 3rd party, I think everyone picks the first option.... But you can`t blame people for wanting to know who created it, I would want to know just for the sake if the person is alive or not, I really do think some people killed him and possibly Hal, also I would like to know just to give them a kudos, I would also like to know because if the person is dead I have start learning to code asap, For we know the end of bitcoin and gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk with the huntercoin simulation of them.

Also I think in the first sentence of the white paper bitcoin was not really meant to be traded for fiat, I think it`s goal was to become the new medium of exchange, for USD and EURO is a financial institution, it was also meant to be traded p2p but most of the trades happen 3rd party on exchanges so it kind of failed there a little. (well it did not fail the morons who trade it for more $cam failed lol)


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
I don`t know but if he comes back he could charge people for his signature using bitcoin. They send him .1 and he sends them .01 back from the genesis address or the 2nd address, I would do it. I wonder of those bitcoins would sell for more lol.

Anyways AA is right, it does not matter who made it, rather what it is and what it does, verifying with math or trusting 3rd party, I think everyone picks the first option.... But you can`t blame people for wanting to know who created it, I would want to know just for the sake if the person is alive or not, I really do think some people killed him and possibly Hal, also I would like to know just to give them a kudos, I would also like to know because if the person is dead I have start to learning to code asap, For we know the end of bitcoin and gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk with the huntercoin simulation of them.

Also I think in the first sentence of the white paper bitcoin was not really meant to be traded for fiat, I think it`s goal was to become the new medium of exchange, for USD and EURO is a financial institution, it was also meant to be traded p2p but most of the trades happen 3rd party on exchanges so it kind of failed there a little. (well it did not fail the morons who trade it for more $cam failed lol)


smart people will trace everything , which mean if there is hints and whatever there they will find, because smart people also will tell you when we say we can trace everything is relative which mean some of them anonymize them self to fully.

just know wiki leaks minds can leak everything about the FBI but EVERYTHING , IF* somebody here dont know how deep this statement he is fucking crazy,

all the hints about bitcoin and cicada come from them only*

the girls which are part of wiki leaks have so huge balls i mean its fucking scary, they know to do huge amount of money and be without any salaries compare to shitty FBI agents which are the top in the world, others agents its game kids for wiki leaks as some =one will piss them to much they will expose the hell of shit about where they live and what they do and other shit,

wiki leaks expose shit which no body can get to it
period



Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
I don`t know but if he comes back he could charge people for his signature using bitcoin. They send him .1 and he sends them .01 back from the genesis address or the 2nd address, I would do it. I wonder of those bitcoins would sell for more lol.

Anyways AA is right, it does not matter who made it, rather what it is and what it does, verifying with math or trusting 3rd party, I think everyone picks the first option.... But you can`t blame people for wanting to know who created it, I would want to know just for the sake if the person is alive or not, I really do think some people killed him and possibly Hal, also I would like to know just to give them a kudos, I would also like to know because if the person is dead I have start learning to code asap, For we know the end of bitcoin and gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk with the huntercoin simulation of them.

Also I think in the first sentence of the white paper bitcoin was not really meant to be traded for fiat, I think it`s goal was to become the new medium of exchange, for USD and EURO is a financial institution, it was also meant to be traded p2p but most of the trades happen 3rd party on exchanges so it kind of failed there a little. (well it did not fail the morons who trade it for more $cam failed lol)


when visa and paypal and other shit out there like governments BAN WIKI LEAKS and agents its even dont interest them that they ban wiki leaks at last say something or stand with wiki leaks yet the agents dont give a damn shit with their shitty salary and dumb people which-->>

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

the minds behind wiki leaks get to conclusion something very fishy as hell, damn what is going out there...

this is why bitcoin and cicada was burn...

someone from wiki leaks hinted that if you will take the top agents from fbi and other countries they all will fail to pass the tests which pass to get inside this huge team which operate on a global scale,  99.99% they will fail.

i will put the link to this hint as he before even bitcoin came


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Slow death on July 15, 2019, 02:03:58 PM
ask this question: "  Should we put an end to this discussion? " is a question that should not even be asked. because while no one find satoshi Nakamoto, the search for him, the curiosity to know who is him, will never end. There is no way people stop looking for satoshi nakamoto. Most people have the following question: " why satoshi disappeared? " this is something people would ask if they found satoshi.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Yassin on July 15, 2019, 02:54:26 PM
we all always ask who is satoshi, and I think we all know who satoshi is with his work that creates Bitcoin and we all already know what Bitcoin is, now almost everyone knows Bitcoin, and what is important is our discussion here not to close this forum, but how do we discuss how Bitcoin for the future can truly change the world as expected by satoshi..


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: seoincorporation on July 15, 2019, 03:16:19 PM
Quote
What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

I think this is why bitcoin works and why it becomes that popular, the open source code and the beauty behind his maths make people trust on it. And about satoshi identity, if we care or not there is no way to know the truth, so make that question is a waste of time, is like trying to solve a puzzle without puzzle pieces. I think is a waste of time, and i personally have stopped making this question to myself.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 03:53:13 PM
we all always ask who is satoshi, and I think we all know who satoshi is with his work that creates Bitcoin and we all already know what Bitcoin is, now almost everyone knows Bitcoin, and what is important is our discussion here not to close this forum, but how do we discuss how Bitcoin for the future can truly change the world as expected by satoshi..


in other words if you ask who is behind name x that sent  some info* journalist by the minds of wiki leaks, you already in the wrong direction, not to mention how much out there projects that was done and all of them under one name, the problem is not satoshi team the problem is people very uneducated and far away from figure out simple things how they work,

very simple, ask the topest minds on the web they will say satoshi is team and even put you to some place where their was hint that this kind of tech is come...

when you see info like this people either blind or to much dumb EVEN anonymous the group do projects under one name hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
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shitty people always try to steal great projects until smart people debunk their fake shit ass..
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DONT TRY TO SEARCH THE NAME ITS LEAD NO WHERE ALSO WITH OUTHER PROJECTS DONE OVER THE WEB


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 03:58:07 PM
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What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

I think this is why bitcoin works and why it becomes that popular, the open source code and the beauty behind his maths make people trust on it. And about satoshi identity, if we care or not there is no way to know the truth, so make that question is a waste of time, is like trying to solve a puzzle without puzzle pieces. I think is a waste of time, and i personally have stopped making this question to myself.


also some of the minds of wiki leaks not only mention and hint about bitcoin which is not new tech and mix of tech that already exist , they also hint about operation like cicada 3301

Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: dothebeats on July 15, 2019, 04:11:46 PM
For me, it doesn't really matter who satoshi is as long as he never comes back. He/she/they could be anyone, literally, and if they decide to come back without us knowing that they were some super shady, nefarious beings then I guess it's game over. Personally, as long as the protocol works perfectly and the visions of Satoshi is fulfilled, we can let them be and just continue with what we're doing while we're at it and improve the system if there needs something to be improved. But of course, we should always recognize what he/she/they did, and we can do that without constantly asking their real identity is because that's their right after all.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 04:19:02 PM
For me, it doesn't really matter who satoshi is as long as he never comes back. He/she/they could be anyone, literally, and if they decide to come back without us knowing that they were some super shady, nefarious beings then I guess it's game over. Personally, as long as the protocol works perfectly and the visions of Satoshi is fulfilled, we can let them be and just continue with what we're doing while we're at it and improve the system if there needs something to be improved. But of course, we should always recognize what he/she/they did, and we can do that without constantly asking their real identity is because that's their right after all.

its not about if it dosent matter or not,

at last if people interesting what goes on the web and what the root cause for something on the web they need put the right info rather then create fictions and silly post and other shit.

there are tons out there projects that done on th web which all of them under one name...

just know wiki leaks works in this manner -- under one name which lead no where

and a lot of people that behind wiki leaks hinted about bitcoin tech is coming they also hinted about cicada 3301,

the problem is the people is far away from be educated to trace simple things here its more medium stuff ,

and when you trace it right its interesting ...

for example ALL THIS FORUM AND NO BODY CAN FIND THIS LLINK
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Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Bitcoinqubit on July 15, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
cicada 3301 and exposed few emails from winners,  - not shit youtuber and d0ne very professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Pr89bZo9M&t=1544s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Pr89bZo9M&t=1544s)

14:29 - 16:10 min -- leaked email from winner 2012 which say they are international team around the globe. also -- said liberty ,privacy,security, cash.

and we will happy to be with us for future project.


said liberty ,privacy,security, cash**--

wiki leaks also mention few times they need huge cash flow to keep this giant project and other projects which come and wiki leaks its the biggest project in the entire history ,


not only this all of the people that talk about that peer to peer and cryptgraphy tech will make finical freedom as i put few of them the other i dont expose as smart people know how to get to this people, they hinted about it and also about cicada 3301 as they searched to find new people around the world to join them.

all this forum and no body find this simple link yet they all day long out put the non sense and crap inside their head....simple link
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Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.

you so fucking uneducated its unbelievable
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search on the web

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI really was way before bitcoin come**
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
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shitty people always try to steal great projects until smart people debunk their fake shit ass..
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Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Nonemoon on July 16, 2019, 07:11:27 AM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

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"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

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rip usd,euro, and other shit out there soon...-->>

when the room is full of people which dont know to figure out simple*  things not talking about medium and complex pazzels  its huge shit yet smart people DEBUNK THE*M FAST , the same with the web which dominated by scams and other shit information and come from people with fake credibility...which are far away from the truth and dont know trace simple things not taking about complex operation like wiki leaks and bitcoin and other great underground projects.
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Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.
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search on the web

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
===================================================================================
How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
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shitty people always try to steal great projects until smart people debunk their fake shit ass..
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I almost stay away from any type forums the reason because to much bullshit, I am expert in blockchain, cryptography and great coder.

Someone directed me to this post and I know how much non sense posts and information on this forum , and was thinking the same about your post without even checking ,

I did very deep research about all this stuff and you was right, all the siginals lead to wiki leaks.

And yes the NSA was working on something similar in 1996,

From the moment I saw this link I know there is something in your post because no body ever posted here this type of info.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Betwrong on July 16, 2019, 11:10:50 AM
It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.

This coin has been created already, and it's name is Bitcoin. That's what Andreas M. Antonopoulos is talking about in the text I quoted in the OP. No elite can control Bitcoin blockchain because it is under control of the greatest power on Earth, which is mathematics.

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From the moment I saw this link I know there is something in your post because no body ever posted here this type of info.

Have you just created an account to support another one of yours. That's funny. :)


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: davis196 on July 16, 2019, 11:54:52 AM
A discussion is considered "ended" or not only if you want or don't want to participate in it. ;D
If you don't want to participate in the "Who is Satoshi?" discussion,just  ignore it.We can't stop it just like that.Hundreds of newbies are entering the bitcoin world everyday and they continue to ask the same question."Who is Satoshi?"
For me,it's pretty clear that we will never find out...


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: TimeBits on July 16, 2019, 12:00:30 PM
For me,it's pretty clear that we will never find out...

I think we will, We may never find out who they are, but I think they will and are still active in the development or will be in a future coin again similar to bitcoin.  I think they will become active on this forum again, but will never know the identity of them until we live their blockchain in the timeless realm. We will just know they are alive. Anyways, that is what matters to me although I really would love to meet and talk to them in person and thank them for their service in person, just knowing they are alive would be cool. I don`t even care if it is the nsa, fb`s zuck or whatever and I am probably the biggest anti current goverment and anti current establishment and anti current banking system, person you will see. I still would be able to look past even if JP MORGAN and the Rockefeller`s and the FED created it.  I don`t think other countries would though. I mean it probably is the USA goverment let`s be real, they can find a guy hiding in a cave, they can find a person on the Internet. Even if they did vpn I don`t think they would stand a chance by NSA. Unless they are living in the middle east wearing a full burka hiding in a cave, inside of another cave with no internet or computer around lol come on now.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2019, 12:38:13 PM
You can't compare Satoshi with Euclid. The later lived and died thousands of years ago, and now it is impossible to find more information about him. But the case with Satoshi Nakamoto is different. There is a good possibility that the individual (or a group of individuals) who is known to us as Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive. Therefore it is possible to find his real identity.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Daniel91 on July 16, 2019, 02:45:14 PM
No way that we can finish this discussion because people will always be courious about it and ask this question over and over again.
We will always come to the same conclusion, we don't know who is Satoshi and wll never find out unless Satoshi decides to reveal his identity, what will never happen in my opinion.
Satoshi cares about his privacy very well.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Nonemoon on July 16, 2019, 04:54:52 PM
It does matter, for all we know bitcoin was created as a testing ground for a global currency that the elites want to be in control of.  Maybe one day we could launch a community coin that is fair for everyone this time.

This coin has been created already, and it's name is Bitcoin. That's what Andreas M. Antonopoulos is talking about in the text I quoted in the OP. No elite can control Bitcoin blockchain because it is under control of the greatest power on Earth, which is mathematics.

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From the moment I saw this link I know there is something in your post because no body ever posted here this type of info.

Have you just created an account to support another one of yours. That's funny. :)

Betwrong

sorry to say I not him and somebody else here said that meadhead account also connected to me, someone just directed me to his posts about wiki leaks and cicada 3301 and I know this kind of forums is full of crap information and non sense.
so I checked his history just to get the idea who behind the account and what weird he disappeared because he was very active?, and I was amazed from the information he provided, he also love to help and bring light.

what really weird he and few other almost in the same time said that xrp is going to crash while xrp was 0.44 and slowly go up to 0.50-60, what shooked me they was right xrp crashed very hard and they probably did huge chunk of money if they was short.

not only bitcoinqubit also few others said this several times that xrp going to crash hard,

bitcoinqubit said it several times in this manner, watch the huge curve taking down xrp and few times while everybody in their non sense and the crap is going here, check his history you will find it.

and who make deep research get to simple facts that wiki leaks,cicada 3301,bitcoin they all connected to each other.

few emails that was leaked about cicada 3301 by winners from 2012 clealry show the connection, as cicada speak about cash and privacy and freedom, do the research yourself and see.

and i very rarely support any one in this industry because most of them scams include here or rather selfish which very bad from economical point of view.

wiki leaks few time said they going to make huge operation to find new people to join them.
they also mention that visa and paypal and other big companies ban them which mean bitcoin solve all their problems.

for some its the same if it one person or team, but some want to know the source.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: squatter on July 16, 2019, 11:11:01 PM
The protocol stands on its own. I hope he's never identified. Otherwise Bitcoin might have its own Vitalik Buterin.

Also I think in the first sentence of the white paper bitcoin was not really meant to be traded for fiat, I think it`s goal was to become the new medium of exchange, for USD and EURO is a financial institution, it was also meant to be traded p2p but most of the trades happen 3rd party on exchanges so it kind of failed there a little.

That seems like a misinterpretation. Bitcoin was intended to be a trustless medium of exchange yes, but that doesn't mean it wasn't intended to be traded for fiat. This is from Satoshi's early writings on the forum:

If it somehow acquired any value at all for whatever reason, then anyone wanting to transfer wealth over a long distance could buy some, transmit it, and have the recipient sell it.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Betwrong on July 17, 2019, 09:54:55 AM
You can't compare Satoshi with Euclid. The later lived and died thousands of years ago, and now it is impossible to find more information about him. But the case with Satoshi Nakamoto is different. There is a good possibility that the individual (or a group of individuals) who is known to us as Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive. Therefore it is possible to find his real identity.

I think the most important part of Antonopoulos' words is the following:

"Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard."

Although, there is, indeed, a good possibility of finding out who Satoshi is, this information is irrelevant regarding the future of Bitcoin.

Let me explain my point with an example. If a big luxury hotel was built by company X, and later it becomes known that this company consisted of terrorists, it is very important because there can be a bomb somewhere inside the hotel. But we all know that there is no bomb in Bitcoin source code, and that's why it doesn't matter who created it.

Of course, I will be forever grateful to the Satoshi who wrote the Bitcoin white paper, But I also know that people change, and thus, even if someone proves that it was him, it is not necessary to obey the new version of Satoshi, 10 years later.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Coyster on July 17, 2019, 03:48:28 PM
Maybe this kind if discussion here won't end but finding who is Satoshi is not really necessary. It's hard to find someone who doesn't want to be found. He or she or they decided to hide their identity with that name so its not like they'll just come up in the public claiming they are Satoshi.
And we have had quite a number of attention seekers claiming to be satoshi, but none has come forward with sufficient prove to back up their claims.

I actually doubt if there are still active research on satoshi's identity, it's now obvious that the network can work fairly superb without him/her/they.
We just have to make good use of this network and ought to be glad satoshi made all this possible.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: everlyn on July 17, 2019, 03:56:24 PM
I think we'll never know who he is.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Pingip on July 17, 2019, 04:11:12 PM
I think we'll never know who he is.

if you try to trace the name that send information to journalist by wiki leaks you will get no where and there only clues

and

really with dont need more then this clues mate,

Don't expect them or any underground team to say clearly with did Bitcoin we also cicada and everything come from wiki leaks, if it was like this they for sure didn't was behind this projects.

But the facts out there and deep research need to be done, and it's the most realistic rather then fiction and life sometime stranger then fiction.

Wiki leaks it's the biggest operation that was in history in leaking information even agents go to see what new over there,.

Ok ....cicada the biggest operation that was in searching very smart people focus on cryptography and hiding information,

cicada 3301 have the same vision as wiki leaks and also talked about cash in leaked emails from winners in 2012.

Between them you have the biggest stratup/operation done in the finical area.

It's true some people from wiki leaks said that peer to peer file sharing can bring finical freedom.

Wiki leaks work heavily with peer to peer and cryptography.

It's all tied together whether you want it or not and realistic* compare to all the shit out there, the vision behind them is the same, satoshi in the papers say the same what wiki leaks and cicada say in different words and they all work with the same technology -- peer to peer and cryptography

Wiki leaks projects when they send information to journalist is always under one name.

From here you don't need more information it's all tied together , and realistic.

at last to know this more deep then this dont try to get...

but still inspire to know all this


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: LMBDA on August 05, 2019, 06:49:10 AM
Hal Finney, end of discussion.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Darker45 on August 05, 2019, 07:10:13 AM
A loud and clear YES from me! I cannot see the whole point on this Satoshi Nakamoto identity uncovering mission. Perhaps there really is no point on this. We have Bitcoin on our hands already, plus a core team that is sort of making sure that the operation is kept at its best form and running forward smoothly. What else could we ask for? The rest of the responsibilities, say to promote wider adoption, are left on us, the community of Bitcoin supporters. 

If the mission to uncover the person behind the name is simply out of pure curiosity or the want to raise some questions directly to himself, I don't think it is worth it. Satoshi is better off left a mystery.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Daniel91 on August 05, 2019, 02:31:03 PM
I think we will never find out answer to this question.
Given the fact that people are naturally curious and want to know everything, Bitcoin users will always ask themselves this question and this discussion will never end :)


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: coin-investor on August 05, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto probably  planned all of this, he knew that his creation will be huge since this is a unique concept and can disrupt the banking system, he knew that he stumble something that will be against the present system, he is using a tor whenever he login here do not have a social media account, and he limits his interaction.

We really like to know who Nakamoto is, all inventions and creations have a personality behind it and it's very unusual for a popular and revolutionary creation where the creator is nowhere to be found, but we should respect his wishes he wants a private life and we should just be thankful that he creates Bitcoin and blockchain.
 


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: samcrypto on September 18, 2019, 03:43:50 AM
It doesn't matter who really is Satoshi Nakamoto now. What significant is that the one he invented (Bitcoin) is popular now and can be seen beyond his expectations. His main goal in creating bitcoin was already achieved. And Satoshi, whether he is still alive or not, will be remained as the Founder of Bitcoin in our heart. So many fake satoshi is spreading in the internet, why can they gain from this? Short term Popularity? Lol
Claiming yourself as Satoshi will just result to hate, we heard so many self-proclaim as Satoshi and now the public hates him so much. Let’s stop this and better to look for some improvemets with bitcoin so the price can start the pump. Satoshi made a good invention and we are enjoying that technology, thanks to him. Bitcoin will be better if Satoshi is still unknown.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: shoreno on September 18, 2019, 04:04:40 AM
It doesn't matter who really is Satoshi Nakamoto now. What significant is that the one he invented (Bitcoin) is popular now and can be seen beyond his expectations. His main goal in creating bitcoin was already achieved. And Satoshi, whether he is still alive or not, will be remained as the Founder of Bitcoin in our heart. So many fake satoshi is spreading in the internet, why can they gain from this? Short term Popularity? Lol
Claiming yourself as Satoshi will just result to hate, we heard so many self-proclaim as Satoshi and now the public hates him so much. Let’s stop this and better to look for some improvemets with bitcoin so the price can start the pump. Satoshi made a good invention and we are enjoying that technology, thanks to him. Bitcoin will be better if Satoshi is still unknown.

what if the real satoshi nakamoto showed up ? and he will show alot of proof to prove that he is really the real satoshi nakamoto  . will he still be hated by the public ? no i dont think so   .  his invention bitcoin is too great and people already enjoyed using it even if they will insist and  lie   . recently , so many threads have opened up about this unmasking satoshi  but idk if the case has been solved or not   . if not then its okay to keep seeking for the mysteries behind satoshi  ,


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: FlamingFingers on September 18, 2019, 05:26:46 AM
I don't know if this discussion will be ever closed.

This type of discussion will not close from cryptocurrency enthusiasts because it has a mystery that people want to see behind Bitcoin, they would want to know that who are behind the technology either as an individual or a group of persons, they would also want to know the family of the creators and at last be able to know their company and country of residence. It will be unending discussion from now to eternity.
Definitely the discussion will not end,  continuous discussion about Who Satoshi  will not put tension on Satoshi to disclose his identity

It's best we put an end to this discussion and channel those energy used in discussing to think about how more adoption for bitcoin will come to place. I believe if Satoshi disclose his identity it might have a negative impact on bitcoin, he knows what he's doing that's why he chose to be anonymous


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: adaseb on September 18, 2019, 05:58:10 AM
It doesn't matter who really is Satoshi Nakamoto now. What significant is that the one he invented (Bitcoin) is popular now and can be seen beyond his expectations. His main goal in creating bitcoin was already achieved. And Satoshi, whether he is still alive or not, will be remained as the Founder of Bitcoin in our heart. So many fake satoshi is spreading in the internet, why can they gain from this? Short term Popularity? Lol
Claiming yourself as Satoshi will just result to hate, we heard so many self-proclaim as Satoshi and now the public hates him so much. Let’s stop this and better to look for some improvemets with bitcoin so the price can start the pump. Satoshi made a good invention and we are enjoying that technology, thanks to him. Bitcoin will be better if Satoshi is still unknown.

what if the real satoshi nakamoto showed up ? and he will show alot of proof to prove that he is really the real satoshi nakamoto  . will he still be hated by the public ? no i dont think so   .  his invention bitcoin is too great and people already enjoyed using it even if they will insist and  lie   . recently , so many threads have opened up about this unmasking satoshi  but idk if the case has been solved or not   . if not then its okay to keep seeking for the mysteries behind satoshi  ,

If he actually did show up one day and provided concrete proof that he is actually Satoshi say by signing and verifying a signed message generated by the Gensis block then most likely it would be bad for the markets.

Sure he might sound like a nice guy but people these days are assuming that the 1 million BTC is lost forever and will never hit the markets. If it turns out he is actually alive there is the possibility of him to start selling and causing massive panic.

Hence its best for Satoshi to just remain a mystery.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: hv_ on September 18, 2019, 12:52:28 PM
I don't think it's that important, because if we find Satoshi, a lot of people might be disappointed in him.

Fully agree - he is a myth already and many ppl like to have their own idea about what Satoshi should be - and what not


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: jake zyrus on September 18, 2019, 02:02:02 PM
We all agree that Satoshi is an important part of bitcoin. If it wasn't for him, bitcoin would be nothing. But the arguments about who is Satoshi and for a lot of people claiming to be one, it's becoming more and more uninteresting. We're getting used to all those fake Satoshi. I bet this discussion won't end as long as we don't found who is the real Satoshi but for me, we don't have to exert to much time and effort on looking for him. We can still honor him/her even though we don't have any idea about his identity.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: dupee419 on September 19, 2019, 01:58:19 AM
SATOSHI can be considered as an individual who started all of this or may also be considered as a GROUP or an organization, he has no identity or whatsoever and I think that this topic has been running out for a very long time and all of the people are quite curious on who is the real maker of Bitcoin, but one thing for sure is that all of us may want to know Satoshi but in a world where anonymity is everywhere it would also be very much likely be hard to find out who that person is, and one thing for sure is that would It really be important or are we just wasting time trying to find out who that person is wherein we can actually make better progress rather than trying to be a Sherlock knowing everything from the past.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: notbatman on September 19, 2019, 10:57:56 AM
Did Satoshi ever mention where he got the idea to use bittorrent to host the ledger and "miners" to verify transactions? I know he spent a lot of time on IRC back in the late 90's early 00's...


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: CODE200 on September 29, 2019, 06:35:10 AM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

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"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

Satoshi is very mysterious because he created this whole bitcoin and yet he didn't publicize who is/are behind this large cryptocurrency; bitcoin. This discussion will never come to and end until he, she or they showed up their true identity.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: zedicus on September 29, 2019, 06:37:54 AM
The end for this endless discussion must be done.Knowing who the real satoshi nakamoto is pointless as it will not help us be better at trading or whatever we are doing in order to profit on bitcoin.Does knowing him will get you tons of bitcoin?


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Quidat on September 29, 2019, 06:42:30 AM
Didnt know the latest one yet who joined the bandwagon of faketoshis https://www.investopedia.com/tech/three-people-who-were-supposedly-bitcoin-founder-satoshi-nakamoto/

Who knows if Satoshi is an individual or not but we have seen lots of dramas on this crypto space whose people trying to push up that they are satoshi.
I guess i would input my infos on here https://albacore.io/faketoshi .lol


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Kakmakr on September 29, 2019, 06:44:23 AM
The debate or the conspiracy theories over who Satoshi Nakamoto is, should never stop... because the more we talk about Satoshi and the more conspiracy theories that are thrown out there, the deeper the mystery gets and the muddier the water gets for him/her or them to hide.

Satoshi's real identity should never be revealed, because a lot of people wants to do harm with that kind of information. <Law suites / Hackers / Thieves / governments ....>

Let's create a lot more confusion with all these conspiracy theories, because it is helpful to Satoshi.   ;)


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: nara1892 on September 29, 2019, 06:53:11 AM
he is the person who created this bitcointalk forum, and disappeared in December 2010
and I heard that he still keeps 1 million bitcoin from pre mine
there will be many conspiracy theories if we keep thinking about this


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: HatakeKakashi on September 29, 2019, 08:35:21 AM
he is the person who created this bitcointalk forum, and disappeared in December 2010
and I heard that he still keeps 1 million bitcoin from pre mine
there will be many conspiracy theories if we keep thinking about this
But we don't know if he or she or a girl or even a boy. Satoshi is very mysterious when bitcoin created.  Many people claimed that they are satoshi but still unknown who is really Satoshi Nakamoto maybe someday he or she arrive but for now Satoshi wants to be have private life because he or she know once he expose his Identity to the public there is a lot of happen to him.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: agustina2 on September 29, 2019, 08:56:47 AM
I guess it is part of human nature to be curious any time. But, finding out who satoshi is may or may not affect everything at all. I guess the reason why he wants to be anonymous is also for his security. And we dont even know if satoshi is really an individual or a group of people. Sometimes it is best to leave the unknown unknown and satoshi itself intends not to disclose his true identity after his creation, so just let it be.

Satoshi decided to live that way. It is his (or her or their) choice to be anonymous. Yes, it's really tempting to know the truth behind that name, but there are some things left not to be known for the good of many.

Different conspiracies will continue to be created. It's never ending. And it's really tiring to think on which or what to believe. It's better to focus on what matters most: the betterment of bitcoin.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: abel1337 on September 29, 2019, 09:55:43 AM
he is the person who created this bitcointalk forum, and disappeared in December 2010
and I heard that he still keeps 1 million bitcoin from pre mine
there will be many conspiracy theories if we keep thinking about this
But we don't know if he or she or a girl or even a boy. Satoshi is very mysterious when bitcoin created.  Many people claimed that they are satoshi but still unknown who is really Satoshi Nakamoto maybe someday he or she arrive but for now Satoshi wants to be have private life because he or she know once he expose his Identity to the public there is a lot of happen to him.
Yeah right, Many people try to claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto that makes to many speculations on what are they planning to do or why they are claiming it. It is given that they will be tracked down because many governments are opposed to the concept of bitcoin. If the real satoshi Nakamoto comes out, I'm sure that he/she/they might have big evidence that they are the creator of bitcoin.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 29, 2019, 11:54:16 AM
I don't think it's that important, because if we find Satoshi, a lot of people might be disappointed in him.

Why dissapointment? many people are amazing with his work and his masterpiece this Bitcoin. its create history in financial. he doesnt want to reveal him self i think because he is too humble and likes to be ordinary person. he is genius.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: Pab on September 29, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
We have to end that discussion. Satoshi is legend and  may he remain a legend.For me Satoshi is Bitcoin and all that revolution what Bitcoin cause.We are here all anonymous so lets stay Satoshi anonymous also .At least he is honest his coins are staying in his wallet untouched


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: judeafante on September 29, 2019, 01:26:53 PM
There is a theory that we, Homo Sapiens, became number one among all the living things on Earth because we love to gossip, which allows us to co-operate in large numbers. So, maybe it's in our genes, and that's why, I have to admit, I, too, still want to know who the real Satoshi is, how much money does he have, who is he married to, etc. But is it really that important?

In the documentary 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' Andreas M. Antonopoulos is saying the following words:

Quote
"Who is Euclid? We don't know. We don't know if Euclid was one person or multiple people. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard. Science and mathematics have essential truth that stands alone irrespective of its inventors and irrespective of their motives. Well, Bitcoin is a system based on mathematical truths, and these mathematical truths stand alone. We can read the source code in Bitcoin and understand it, and it will be true whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a man, a woman, a collection of individuals, a government agency or aliens from the future."
- Andreas M. Antonopoulos - 'Bitcoin: The End of Money as We Know It' (00:39:04)

I tend to agree with those words.

What about you, guys? Please share your opinions.

People are adding so many theories on gossip I think we should stop or end discussions to who Satoshi Nakamoto is, and just let it be, we all want to know who he really is, but we cannot also accept so many deceiving, so many impostors coming in to claim.
just let things be and anyone comes here and he knows how to open the wallet that the real Satoshi owns then that's the time we finally can say we found him.


Title: Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion?
Post by: BitcoinMoses on September 29, 2019, 03:19:37 PM

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ?

This question has come to an abrupt end because Satoshi Nakamoto himself has decided to reveal his true identity on his Japanese Birthday this year in Bangkok on the 5 April 2019. He has created his personal website to reveal his true identity. You can read his personal Profile there in his website. As most of the Bitcoin community leaders did not wanted Satoshi to reveal his true identity for their personal interest but it is Satoshi Nakamoto himself has decided very quietly to reveal his own identity because it necessary and the time has come to do it. He is online with his 5 years old twitter account. This Bitcoin Talk Forum was created by him but for some reason he cannot access to his account 'satoshi'. If you are looking for the real inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology then you can find him @bitcoin_Bitmark this his twitter account. https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Bitmark

Bitcoin Moses