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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: vejonkaren on July 17, 2019, 11:44:55 AM



Title: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: vejonkaren on July 17, 2019, 11:44:55 AM
Beware of so-called b2bp2p exchange.

https://p2pb2b.io

They will steal your money.

Today I decide to give a try to this service. After the registration I tried to deposit some money and found that there's minimum amount requirement.

Ok, the minimum is 50 Sem so I transfer exactly 50 Sem to the address provided by b2bp2p.

PROOF:https://semux.info/explorer/transaction/0x37e0c528d34d9017691bd86805615a06cee533fd846337fe8dc07200a049effa

Now see what scammers do. They get exactly 50 sem, to the address provided than transfer the funds to their so-called inner wallet and voila your 50 sem become 49,995 which is below their minimum.

And what the fraudsters say:

All transactions which were less than the minimum deposit amount will be lost.

In other words they deduct their own fee, take it, than steal the remain balance.

"Nice" business!

BEWARE AT ALL COST.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: vejonkaren on July 17, 2019, 04:50:09 PM
This is the blockchain.
You can't hide the truth.

P2PB2B generated my deposit address as 0x3ced649fbbce02397bdc7edfaf87bc12ac6eafa4

Go check the records:

https://semux.info/explorer/account/0x3ced649fbbce02397bdc7edfaf87bc12ac6eafa4

12:42:06, 17 Jul 2019 0x3ced649fbbce02397bdc7edfaf87bc12ac6eafa4 50 SEM arrived.

a minute later at 12:43:02, 17 Jul 2019 scammers took my money from my deposit and sent 'em to unknown address 0x0bf9e08ec7f34fd2f9b503a132915b1880cba7f7

Voila! No money in my wallet. Where they're? On the unknown account.

Did my deposit address got 50 sem? YES
Did I asked to play with my money to send 'em between wallets? NO
Did I warned that scammers gonna play with my money thus they need more sem to pay the fee for their games? NO
Am I lost my entire deposit according to scammers' logic. YES
Should I label P2PB2B as scammers? The answer is obvious.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: fratoshi on July 20, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
There are several negative posts about this exchange, but hard to independently verify if those claims are true.
The exchange seems to be faking volume.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on July 22, 2019, 08:32:03 PM
Beware of so-called b2bp2p exchange.

BEWARE AT ALL COST.


Yes they are scammers that own Coinsbit and P2PB2B, they are exposed as scammers because they inflate their trade volumes.

Coinsbit pretends be an exchange that trades $84 MILLION which equates to over $30 BILLION a year

P2PB2B pretends to be an exchange that trades over $167 MILLION which equates to over $60 BILLION a year

Coinsbit and P2PB2B are sending fake volume data to Coinmarketcap, just check their website traffic:

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinsbit/
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/p2pb2b/


ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsbit.io
ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p2pb2b.io


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: Kyraishi on July 23, 2019, 02:08:51 AM
I am a strong disbeliever of having a deposit minimum for exchanges, and no exchange should have a minimum of 5 dollars. Although I don't think them "scamming" you of 5 dollars is the best example, I think it is better to have them just set a set fee which they take out of every transaction, so you can deposit as many coins as you want (as long as the fee is taken away).

I took a look at their volume on CMC, and it is very obvious that it is all faked. IEOs also have no volume there, and their communities do not resemble a real exchange with their volume. There are too many exchanges nowadays with faked volume, and this is definitely one of them.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: p2pb2b.io on July 23, 2019, 04:54:32 PM
Beware of so-called b2bp2p exchange.

https://p2pb2b.io

They will steal your money.

Today I decide to give a try to this service. After the registration I tried to deposit some money and found that there's minimum amount requirement.

Ok, the minimum is 50 Sem so I transfer exactly 50 Sem to the address provided by b2bp2p.

PROOF:https://semux.info/explorer/transaction/0x37e0c528d34d9017691bd86805615a06cee533fd846337fe8dc07200a049effa

Now see what scammers do. They get exactly 50 sem, to the address provided than transfer the funds to their so-called inner wallet and voila your 50 sem become 49,995 which is below their minimum.

And what the fraudsters say:

All transactions which were less than the minimum deposit amount will be lost.

In other words they deduct their own fee, take it, than steal the remain balance.

"Nice" business!

BEWARE AT ALL COST.

Hello

Your issue was solved last week.


Did my deposit address got 50 sem? YES
NO, you send us 49.995 SEM

Did I asked to play with my money to send 'em between wallets? NO

It's only your mistake that you sent not correct sum. that's why your funds stuck at node

Have I lost my entire deposit according to scammers' logic. YES

It's only your inattention too.

Please be more attentive next time to avoid misunderstandings. We will make refund 49.995 SEM for the first time

Wish you all the best


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on July 23, 2019, 05:01:49 PM
Hello

Your issue was solved last week.


The P2PB2B scammers have finally logged in to post again  ::)


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on July 24, 2019, 03:43:49 PM
I am a strong disbeliever of having a deposit minimum for exchanges, and no exchange should have a minimum of 5 dollars. Although I don't think them "scamming" you of 5 dollars is the best example, I think it is better to have them just set a set fee which they take out of every transaction, so you can deposit as many coins as you want (as long as the fee is taken away).

I took a look at their volume on CMC, and it is very obvious that it is all faked. IEOs also have no volume there, and their communities do not resemble a real exchange with their volume. There are too many exchanges nowadays with faked volume, and this is definitely one of them.


I think you are completely correct and it is obvious 100% of the community (- minus the sock-puppet scammer accounts) agree because according to the data they send to Coinmarketcap they are clearly scammers because they are faking their volumes 100%.

The lack of their communities, the lack of supportive posts and the lack of website traffic from Alexa clearly show they are scammers.

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinsbit/
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/p2pb2b/

ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsbit.io
ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p2pb2b.io


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: fratoshi on July 25, 2019, 03:21:54 AM
I agree, and the fake volume killed small coins when they got listed there, an example is PAC, it was 11 sat when got listed there and the fake volume drop the price to 2 sat.

Fake volume is not only misleading users but also killing small projects.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: vejonkaren on July 25, 2019, 06:18:53 AM


Fake volume is not only misleading users but also killing small projects.

Let's call the things' real name: FAKE VOLUME IS FRAUD


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: vejonkaren on July 25, 2019, 06:31:33 AM
After all the buzz 5 bucks were credited to my account.

Funny enough I was told that there's no technical possibility to do so. But after the negative feedback left it become possible almost immediately.

Should I remove my scam accusations?
I don't think so.

Valery Solodovnik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509426) ruined his reputation (if there was any) by himself.

To warn users to avoid this person this topic was created.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: fratoshi on July 25, 2019, 07:35:53 AM
i think you should leave the accusation


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: Saisher on July 26, 2019, 03:54:48 PM
Beware of so-called b2bp2p exchange.

https://p2pb2b.io

They will steal your money.

Today I decide to give a try to this service. After the registration I tried to deposit some money and found that there's minimum amount requirement.

Ok, the minimum is 50 Sem so I transfer exactly 50 Sem to the address provided by b2bp2p.

PROOF:https://semux.info/explorer/transaction/0x37e0c528d34d9017691bd86805615a06cee533fd846337fe8dc07200a049effa

Now see what scammers do. They get exactly 50 sem, to the address provided than transfer the funds to their so-called inner wallet and voila your 50 sem become 49,995 which is below their minimum.

And what the fraudsters say:

All transactions which were less than the minimum deposit amount will be lost.

In other words they deduct their own fee, take it, than steal the remain balance.

"Nice" business!

BEWARE AT ALL COST.

They should state that they are going to deduct, their fee to avoid this kind of scenario LATOKEN also implement this but I am aware of this scenario so I make it a point to add for the fee, they should refund the user because they did not announce that there is a fee that they are going to deduct.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: vejonkaren on July 27, 2019, 02:35:44 AM
Yet another fabulous twist of the story.
Even more hilarious than Valery Solodovnik's  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509426) initial scamming attempt.

Now it's clear that p2pb2b exchange provides personal data of it's users to third parties.

Russian bitcointalk's user Pavel Savelyev  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320260) in defend of Solodovnik said yesterday:


A вoт c кaким cмыcлoм ктo-тo, нe имeя KYC для coвepшeния cдeлoк, зaкидывaeт минимaлкy

How hell he knows about my KYC status? What's the source of his information? Me? I never ever in my p2pb2b related posts said about it. The only source is Solodovnik himself providing such a confidential info to Savelyev.
Sure there's possibility that p2pb2b exchange and Semux coin are affiliated entities then the scam attempt looks even more interesting :)

Stay tuned and keep watching.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: fratoshi on July 27, 2019, 05:45:17 AM
The sharing of customers private information is illegal in almost all countries, another reason to stay away from P2PB2B, they are known for faking volume, stealing coins and sharing personal information of their users


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on July 27, 2019, 05:54:37 AM
There is redirect to p2pb2b - from SCAM exchange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126606.420) - https://bitzure.com
Someone lost 67 ETH there, and I did lost 0.08 BTC (12000 SIGT). Just withdrawals was been locked.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: dopey on July 27, 2019, 08:29:35 AM
P2PB2B is a complete scam, do not trust them with your crypto or your upcoming IEO / STO. I am a coin developer since 2014 and I encourage you to read the following thread before you are financially harmed by these thieves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163367.0


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on July 28, 2019, 08:22:26 PM
There is redirect to p2pb2b - from SCAM exchange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126606.420) - https://bitzure.com
Someone lost 67 ETH there, and I did lost 0.08 BTC (12000 SIGT). Just withdrawals was been locked.


What is the connection between bitzure.com and p2pb2b? Why is that domain not advertised and promoted yet it is pointing to p2pb2b.io?

This is the exact redirect URL: https://p2pb2b.io/?utm_source=drop&utm_medium=bonus&utm_campaign=stas

67 Ethereum is too large an amount to ignore and so is your 0.08 BTC / 12,000 SIGT loss.

So these scammers at Coinsbit and p2pb2b are allowing account access but are not withdrawals, that in itself has a stench of scam around it.

Seems you are another victim of the Coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: fratoshi on August 05, 2019, 09:32:35 AM
They are faking volume, and some users complain that THC withdrawals are not possible


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on August 08, 2019, 11:50:00 AM
P2PB2B is a complete scam, do not trust them with your crypto or your upcoming IEO / STO. I am a coin developer since 2014 and I encourage you to read the following thread before you are financially harmed by these thieves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163367.0



I concur. The truth is coinsbit and p2pb2b are owned and operated by the same scammers.

The user p2pb2b.io last logged in on 5th August 2019 to read posts but they last posted on 26th July 2019

Out of embarrassment for getting caught out they no longer post here  ::)

The community well and truly exposed those scamming thieves. Now we just need to do the same for coinsbit which is also owned by the p2pb2b scammers

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4971628.msg52098313#msg52098313


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: mr.dash on August 08, 2019, 03:07:54 PM
honestly I have no idea its scam or not but my personal experience with this exchange is not good they took weeks sometime to show deposit into your account after days of support chat finally I received my deposited tokens into my account so you cannot trust such type of exchanges blindly.


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on August 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
honestly I have no idea its scam or not but my personal experience with this exchange is not good they took weeks sometime to show deposit into your account after days of support chat finally I received my deposited tokens into my account so you cannot trust such type of exchanges blindly.


So if they took weeks to show your deposit in your account that means they are not worth trusting. The reason they took time to show your deposit is probably because they leveraged your funds elsewhere.

Beware of the scammers at coinsbit and p2pb2b


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on August 20, 2019, 11:21:26 AM
@ mr.dash

Any update to your situation?


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: noman_one on September 01, 2019, 10:24:18 PM
this exchange is supposed to be the first to list a shaddy project named Zynecoin, the 17th of november 2019... I now understand better why this coin, considered by many as a real scam, choose this exchange to enter in the market  ;D


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on September 08, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
this exchange is supposed to be the first to list a shaddy project named Zynecoin, the 17th of november 2019... I now understand better why this coin, considered by many as a real scam, choose this exchange to enter in the market  ;D


Maybe some of the "coins" being listed are scam coins that are fake front but are operated by coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers just so they can make money from the fake IEOs


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JollyGood on September 13, 2019, 10:57:39 AM
Their shameless p2pb2b.io login is back, posting in their "official" thread like nothing happened in the past

 ::)


Title: Re: [FRAUD ALERT] P2PB2B - yet another russian scam exchange
Post by: JulioVasquez on September 14, 2019, 08:42:22 AM
Beware of so-called b2bp2p exchange.

BEWARE AT ALL COST.


Yes they are scammers that own Coinsbit and P2PB2B, they are exposed as scammers because they inflate their trade volumes.

Coinsbit pretends be an exchange that trades $84 MILLION which equates to over $30 BILLION a year

P2PB2B pretends to be an exchange that trades over $167 MILLION which equates to over $60 BILLION a year

Coinsbit and P2PB2B are sending fake volume data to Coinmarketcap, just check their website traffic:

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinsbit/
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/p2pb2b/


ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsbit.io
ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p2pb2b.io

Not only Russian, take most Chinese or HK exchange and their trading is inflated...