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For joining this signature campaign?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0


Refresh my memory please

Because last time I checked, negatives where when you did evil stuff

I don't think you would get negative tagged for joining livecoin campaign.

But you could end up in yahoo62278's and probably other reputed managers personal blacklist for future and current campaign participants as discussed here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.msg51885227#msg51885227).

Still, all this comes down to your own ethics if you would like to promote a exchange with shady TOS and a running scam accusation here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159692.0).

BTW I don't think you should join it.

This is the actual link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166754.0) referenced in the trust flag.
Trust flags are designed to be used for alleged scams and high risked profiles


You did not get a negative free back gor joining a signature campaign. The campaign manager, LiveCoin Manager (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2650265) and the warning sign displays when thread created by that profile is viewed.

Do you consider this evil?

What kid of condition is this?

Do you see blackmail?

Reporting and opening scam accusation is true scam. So, we stay silent?

Let's say you gave money or something valuable to someone. How would you feel if that someone starts taking advantage of this asset they are holding for you and demands you to perform some task or job that you think you did right?

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Also please note that one of the highest respected campaign manager stopped managing their campaign.

So, you decide which way you should go. Against the tide?

So they are hiding behind their terms and conditions just like most gambling sites do with their bonuses that are impossible to withdrawal and what not.

Follow the discussion at Livecoin participants should be tag? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.0)

So far, no one has said livecoin participants will or should be tagged but a reputable manager will be blacklisting all who applied on that campaign unless they retract.

They are basically locking users funds, and deny to return them as user accused them on an online forum and in public. They even have this in there TOS. ???

Can you specify the relevancy please. I failed to see how we can put them on the same page.

The gambling sites offer deposit bonus or any kind of bonus with this condition that you will have to wager x amount with minimum y odd or you will have to make some x amount of the bonus with minimum y odd before to withdraw. And if anyone can do that successfully then they promise to let them withdraw the money. I can not speak for others but with bet365, once I was successfully multiplied 3x times (that was their condition if I am correct with minimum 1/2 odd) of the deposit bonus (£250 I guess) got from them and they let me withdraw those money.

I doubt anyone will tag you for participating in the campaign but like other users said yahoo has openly stated that everyone willing to advertise LiveCoin will be blacklisted from his future campaigns and maybe other reputable managers will do the same.

If I were you I would wait for a better opportunity. The consequence of participating in the campaign means blacklisting for better things that will come in the future, I don't think it is worth it. 

I'd rather join a different campaign rather than to choose the one that has many red flags because of past bad behaviours.

As @hacker1001101001 just stated that they locked user funds because they've been exposed I guess that way is unethical IMHO.

I don't think that you will receive negative trust directly if you join this campaign.
But, you will run your own reputation on the forum because you will show that you don't care what others share about this campaign and their managers.
It's up to you to decide, to join or not.
Previous and very trustworthy campaign manager, with great reputation, Hhampuz, gave up from this campaign and now they have another manager and started over.

Source: https://www.cointelligence.com/exchanges_list/livecoin/

Livecoin scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159692.msg51768492#msg51768492)

https://i.imgur.com/rUTZIN7.png

Yes - it is a real possibility.

I supported the tag on Livecoin, and I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't be advertising for them--but personally I'm not going to start tagging the campaign participants.  Other DT members (or anyone else) might just do that, however, and it wouldn't be unprecedented.  Cryptodevil was going to tag me and the other participants of some campaign the name of which I can't even remember now, because it was an ICO that had started off its life as being shady.  Ultimately cryptodevil didn't tag anyone, but I do recall that people promoting Betcoin.ag (IIRC) did all get negged.

It is.  For that reason, OP, I would not join this campaign.  For another reason, ethically it's not a great idea to be advertising for an exchange that might be a scam, and I think there's enough evidence to suggest that Livecoin is just that.

Too late Hhampuz tagged him

I second it.
Get tagged for wearing a signature isn't appropriate (may be Hhampuz will consider removing later) but you must think of all the scam accusations Livecoin have before promoting this project. I'm sure that you knew Hhampuz has recently left managing the campaign.

Like many, I am also mystified to Hhampuz's thinking when he tagged applicants of the new Livecoin signature campaign. But whatever his reasons are, the tags will be removed if they withdraw application. 

Seems like a little bit of butt hurt over being pressured out of managing them to me.

He want's off DT anyway.. I think his blacklist request got him off of DT1 but other DT1s have not respected his wishes to ~Hhampuz like he politely asked them to do..

There is an ongoing discussion here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.0) about this subject where many DTs expressed that they will not tag the campaign participants.
Trudt is unmoderated and with the new changes in the trust system, you never know who will be a DT next month!

Do you really want an answer to your OP or do you just want to find an excuse to join the campaign?

Honest people tend to avoid supporting proven scams. You shouldn't need a separate thread for such a non-dilemma, what with the flag on Livecoin account and the referenced thread.

Just say no KY Jelly, whats the point. I would always hesitate to trust anyone knowingly supporting anything that is heavily tied to such nonsense.

No, not really, but you can be blacklisted from campaigns handled by some managers who expressed their distaste in supporting such projects i.e. yahoo62278.

If I were you, I'd check whether a service is legitimate before joining their signature campaign.

He got negative feedback which he shouldn't, giving red trust to anyone who just want to join a campaign is a trust abuse.

Fun fact, Hhampuz targeted only the previous campaign he managed before because he was not hired again? butt hurt/

Campaign such us yobit, sportsbet, and bitcasino which have active scam accusations are free to advertise their campaign because DTs are not tagging participants. Some DTs are abusive, instead of protecting the forum, they protect their DT friend by just tolerating someone do a trust abuse.

They have something to say against hhampuz but nothing to do against him  ::)
Instead of speaking about the topic, they tried to discuss further the reputation of livecoin which does only mislead people.


TO DTs when a DT is abusing trust, what would you do? Hhampuz is clearly abusing trust.