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This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now


I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

That takes too much effort but if you will find it profitable and will not waste your money and time, why not?

Still, for me, the lottery is pure luck. But if you have the huge money and time, you can learn and do something that stated above. An alternative to that is having the huge money and you will gamble and make bet to all numbers, something like that, I don't know if there are already people who almost tried to gamble for each possible combination numbers.

Winning 12 times is not because of luck, I don't believe it's just luck, he won because he is smart and maybe have exploited the system.
Lottery is a kind of game that is hard to win due to gamblers having a little chance of winning, this one is rare.

Well all I can say is well done to him.This tells us all that to win in the lottery you have more chances when you are a genius like him rather than depending on your luck.Now it is more difficult as things are controlled by AI software which I think it can be cracked but it takes another genius to crack this.

correct that he was smart and not lucky. I've read some more of those stories and there is one thing those people also got and that is already a lot of money to buy those amounts of lottery tickets.

I wonder how he does that. ;D but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.
There are smart people in gambling but majority are not, gambling sites can still continue to operate profitably with that reality.
I wish I was smart as him, that's what we call as EASY MONEY>

That will be difficult for normal people to have a high-skills like him and not all people who play gambling can do that, especially using a computer which will be more difficult. There are only a few people who can do that, and I am not sure that they can get the same skills as him because he needs to learn a complicated lesson in mathematical. Besides that, cracking the system is not easy as it says, we need to be patient to learn step by step.

Agree, maybe he had done something with the system that made him win 12 times because a lot of people already tried there luck in lottery what only very few were lucky enough to win and it's not that they also win consecutive times like 12 times for example. For me, lottery is more on luck and it is like the winner in one in one million.

Are we talking about the probability here? Its already computed and there are so many set of numbers before you win even if you are genius in math. Well, you still need the luck and if that man really won 12 times then he should win more because he already know how to play it. I don't want to be stressed because of solving the numbers, its really hard and not easy.

Cracking the algorithm was pretty unusual, But surely it can but he is not alone and he would surely need the help of a lot of investors that believe in his method that is why the lottery Syndicate that he initiated has become a successful and winning every Jackpot, 1st place, 2nd place, And even all major minor prices had been taken by his team, Well, I think this is a lot of work to do and you can not pull out any stunt as Mandel did now because of the many changes in the lottery rules, Well this is so true but you can not pull any stunt like this right now that is why the house may still win.

Not sure how he did do that Romanian one but on that UK lottery there was just really nothing to crack, because it was based on removing the change of losing by betting all numbers. Technically if there would have been multiple winnings, they would have lost some of their investments.

I dunno what kind of human he is, he is very talented and genius person. Cracking the algorithm in the system is not just easy for a normal people he had that ability maybe I guess that person is good in analyzation aside from being good in Math because that is the computerized program that also made by the human. Well, how lucky that man won 12 times and I think he purchases a lot of tickets and also a good picker combination numbers.

I'm not qualified on the first one, and the second one is not easy to crack the security feature of one lottery system.
That guy is amazing, winning 12 times in lottery is not simple and very unrealistic but that guy proves that everything is possible if you work hard on that. I can't say he's a cheater but he is just a desperate bettor who wants to challenge the system of the lottery, I wish him well and hoping for his own security.

This brought me to Google for a while and tried to read more about it. When I first read the OP, I though this is some kind of a controversy that is not purely out of sheer genius but basically one that is linked to someone inside the lottery system, in other words an inside job.

This is what I learned though:

• He indeed won all those lotteries but not just 12 times but 14 times.
• He was not really a mathematician by profession. He was described as a "weekend mathematician," and even a mere "accountant without too much education.” I was amazed more.

Anyway, if anyone is curious enough to see how the genius looks like, here is a pic I got from the second source I indicated below.
https://i.imgur.com/SYEhskz.jpg

Sources:
http://howtowinlottery.org/
https://allthatsinteresting.com/stefan-mandel

He is really a genius person and I amazed how he does, and if he never gets imprisoned it surely not just 12 times but more. And sadly he ends up his gambling life shortly..I know he actually enjoyed it and I know he doesn't regret if what he'll do as he proves something that anyone can do things impossible to possible.

Truly insane. He should have simply stuck to a couple of wins and retired peacefully, but got greedy and probably was curious to see how much he could have earned which screwed him at the end.

Winning a single lottery itself is something, but no words can describe winning 12 to 14 lotteries. Damn. Well done sir though he pushed too far.

This is actually interesting. Something that everyone thought to be mathematically impossible was cracked down by one man and proceeded to win the lottery 14 times! This goes to show that with that kind of intelligence and dedication, one can exploit the wonders of almost everything that can be computed!

Interesting that the formula and the algorithm are hidden in public. I guess the government somehow controlled the data and secured it to prevent abuse from people doing it.


Maybe he or his team developed some kind of algorithm that would limit their number choices. Nevertheless, the number of tickets required to fullfill such need lots of investors! But come on man, winning the lottery 14 times goes to show his unparalleled genius and skill compared to anyone.

Maybe only people with disorder will believe that this is a Pure luck,winning 12 times for a billions of combination number is literally a genius work
I remember back in college when the popular local gambling in our country got boomed this named Horse race(animated version)one of my friend who’s also genius in math did a study and come to get the algorithm of the game.thats why the owner needs to change the chips of the program to prevent him from winning each time..

What I’m saying here that in some cases we can beat the gambling sites ,but ofcourse utmost luck is really need 😂

If the numbers are picked using true random integers then this is a statistical impossibility, unless you have bought lots of tickets

https://www.9news.com.au/national/powerball-lotto-results-winning-numbers-jackpot-prize-news-australia-victoria/97bd485b-667e-481a-bd21-3e9dac2b9ed2

The truth is lottery winning chance is 1 : 14 million and there is no way to increase the odds.
But winning 12 times in lottery for me is something fishy or the lottery only have small prize while the true lottery will give the prize more than $ 10.000.000  !

^ But how could he ban that usually, Lotteries gambling did not have KYC, as long as players can buy tickets and that's it.
But as I saw the article that man was basically good at solving Math. He was bought or possibility fills out a hundreds or maybe thousands of tickets and I think the capital he used is possible huge too. One possible if that fishy is that man had a possible contact one of those operators in lottery staff.

The story of his life was very interesting that he was motivate to won the lottery because his job have low salary which mean he seeking another solution to get rich and calculated every possibility to won the lottery and i have to admit he was very genius on math and probably in today age we won't see again math genius break new algorithm to won the lottery moreover the current lottery system more sophisticated than several decades ago

This man is exceptional. One in a million. In fact, I admire this man a thousand times more than the card readers from MIT, who are also geniuses in their own respect, because he was not a product of any Ivy League school nor in a particular lot in life in which he can indulge himself in arithmetic without having to think of other more important things. This man is a natural genius!

This reminds me about the movie of Leonardo de Carpio, catch me If you can. when he got the red light on his country he jumped to another country to do his tricks and unfortunately like this guy in the OP he got caught too. but his talent got him out and use it this time to help the government to reduce the scam and fraud on their country. I wonder If that man can use his talent too to prevent some illegal activity.

Once a jackpot reaches a certain amount and you buy every number possibility your expected return will be higher than what you spent but you also have to factor in other people winning at the same time as you.

For anyone to be successful in cracking the printing algorithm, he needs to be a genius. For most of us even though we tried our best and take advantages of the computing power, we'd still not be able to achieve what he did. Not just because we are not good at maths but also because all of the lotteries after that even has changed themselves to be indecisive till the final moments and as everything is discrete, there's no algorithm to look at.

I've watched the video, So this is the guy who made a change in how the lottery was played, it is now illegal in  many countries, it's a syndicate and illegal, all lottery will lose their reputation if a syndicate can do this, that is why all countries are on a lookup if there are lottery syndicate operating in their country.

I wonder if IRL casinos allow him to play.
Btw, it is said, that he "got prisoned". What for ? For being a "mathematical genius"? That's a shame  :D

You would able to answer those questions if you tend to watch up the video.
I did watch the video and i would say that it is really possible to hit up jackpots come to think on spending/printing all possible combinations that a lottery could have.
You would definitely hit up the number but its too hassle for a work plus needing sufficient fund for that kind of system.It isnt really a lucky thing but this one
bet all the combinations.

Well, I also think about this one or maybe he had allies inside on that lottery gambling that he won(something fishy right?). The story of this man who won not only 12 times but the article say it is 14 times is very interesting and I think he different among other normal gamblers. Indeed, maybe he just good in solving Math in finding (x) which the random number to pick in a draw. But for sure he had a huge capital on this in buying a bunch of tickets.

So basically he placed money on every single combination of numbers making sure that once he won the winnings would cover all his expenses.
Of course he had help from several investors who financed his endeavors. An intelligent man who saw an opportunity and made profit from it. Unfortunately he went too far and ended up in prison. 

How is this possible winning 12 times? I mean how come someone exploited the lottery system? And i don't think luck will be the main reason for all of his winning. There is just something odd on that when someone starts to win like almost in a row, i don't know if he beats it by knowledge or he may be just too lucky. ???

Has anyone in here actually watched that video? People in here are claiming he needs to be genius to figure that solution out. It's not as impressive as people are stating in here. He just crowdfunded for tickets and bought all the possibilities when the jackpot price was 3x over the sum he paid.

He probably made a good algorithm to decrease the possibilities of not winning, but he took a big risk of getting money from his relatives to by all those lottery tickets.
In my opinion, he was lucky enough to win the price from the first attempt, otherwise he would be in very difficult position and in high debt as well.

He won 14 times in a row,but in a 30-year period,which is weird.
If he really won that much,there must be some pattern followed by the lottery,which means that the lottery wasn't 100% fair and 100% based on luck.This guy simply revealed how the lottery was cheating the ordinary people and he exploited a crack in the lottery system.

Everyone can't be Stefan, these are very exceptional people who have got mathematical skills that a common human doesn't possess. As most of the users here mentioned it isn't luck, the skills have got him such a big number of wins out of lottery which none could've got till date around the world. To study the script he could've trained himself without which it isn't an easy task.

That is why op said the man is genius in mathematics! He do break into the lottery system and arrange it in his favour and by doing that the odd of win is in his side. However, I see this as manipulation and he could have channeled his intellect and mathematical skills in solving some mathematics issues we are having instead of using it to manipulate lottery systems.

What is he in for after he won in many countries? If I won 12 times, I'd be buying all the cops trying to chain me.

The government must be very worried about their money given away to someone who had been finding ways to outsmart their lottery system. Winning 2 times is already crazy, if I were him I would have passed a year or two before trying to win another. Lucky Devil.

Even with the computerized system, I think there is a lot possibily digit would happened. or maybe he put money on many several possibily?  and also possible if the lottery system is updated. and the hash complexity of the old ones replaced may be a challenge. but if he is a genius and got prisoned just because he can do that it is not right. someone like him must be given a special place.

If now someone can master that, of course he must be rich by just doing a lottery or gambling. Unfortunately one such person has been jailed as he said. If you want to be like Stefan Mandel there are 2 points that @OP says that we must be the type of people in mathematics and solve algorithms. With these two things can we do as Stefan Mandel did? I can't think there will be anyone who can do this again. Because it can harm gambling sites.

Even though but still I find it hard to get the algorithm of lottery since it has lots of combination to consider,but since OP mentioned that the man is genius (or maybe a Gifted as well 😅) so he come to get the right combination not once but 12 times

Anyway I wish I knew the man so I can have a combination even not a jackpot number 😂

I would have watched it, but sadly youtube says that “this video is unavailable in your country”...

Well, most lotteries are actually completely random nowadays, drawn from balls in brownian motion on live TV after ticket sales have been closed.

Such methods can no longer before used to predict the outcome of the lottery. Props to that guy though, anything that uses algorithms to generate results is still liable to be cracked.

Algorithm you say?  Come on that's ridiculous. You don't just guess a lottery by being a mathematics guru and hit it 12 times. Am not disputing the fact that he might have won for that ridiculous amount of time but saying maybe just maybe there is something more to it than just knowing mathematics

I think exploiting the gambling system was too hard to do as well, but for that 12 times lucky wins I think it was so amazing to do since lottery was having small chances of winning. Even though we're smart enough to play lottery, it's not guaranteed 100% wins because you don't need skills to play for it; and you needed to do was bet according to your preferred number choices.

This story is particularly amazing, and winning multiple times is incredibly the best situation in our lives to occur. I figure this isn't simply luck, unquestionably it includes an aptitudes on exploiting the mixes of lottery numbers. This round of chance is extremely troublesome but then that man won at multiple times. He was so fortunate enough to secure that chances of winning.

Let's say he has cracked the algorithmic code for the lottery. Now do you think all people can do that? Of course most gamblers depend on luck and not on cracking codes just to win.

A knowledge will guide you to everything that you want, simply put when you start to earn money you have to pay attention to your knowledge.

Firstly, your knowledge to the field that you choose, if you don't understand again that field it would be better you have to leave it because it will torture you.

Secondly, your ability again the field that you choose. If you feel able to handle everything that will be faced in the future you can open opportunities for what you want. 

I know most people consider that lottery is all about lucky but the lucky thing can be inserted with the strategy so as it is likely that 98% of luck will approach us.

He is genius. Winning twice to thrice from lottery is fine with his knowledge but with winning 12x it is really suspicious and inappropriate even in different point of views. How sad how it turns out bad to that guy because of his greediness. It is not luck why he won but because of his high mental ability. Hope he used his power or ability in moderation only or use his relatives identity to buy lottery tickets for him.

cracking the code or hacking in a bad way is illegal and its always against the rules  . fair sqaure means you play normally without any hacking or other mathematical equations other than chosing a ranom number based on your mind or based on your birthdate , anniversary date  , and other important dates  .


thats impossible , luck comes naturally from person to person and no system can give you an instant luck or a longer validity of luck for certain type of gambling   .  im surprised that your still proud of the guy despite of his inpapropriate behavior  .

I've searched about this guy and I find his winning isn't so amazing and impressive because I found out that he bet all possible combination. I though he is really someone that cracked the code and won 14 times in lottery. He successfully gather investors resulted into 14x victory but he is now bankrupt according to what I've read. Tbh, winning one time with pure luck is more awesome to me.

If he do mathematical equations before choose numbers i don't see any problem. On my national lottery there are some option and can choose more numbers than ussually and that was the way some of people win. (they choose 7 or more numbers and with some system give them a lot of combination, like they buy 40 tickets instead of 1)


He is a smart man and if only the math was involved without any exploit on lottery system i don't see why was arrested. What i want to ask if someone know, he only play on off-line lotteries or only on lotteries who offer online tickets?

That will need more skills to crack the code or hacking, and I don't think that it is easy to do. But the most reason why he can win the lottery, he is at the right time and in the right place, and besides that, he got big luck while he plays so he can win the lottery. If he uses a random method or random number to crack, that will be more difficult to crack the code.


Yes, that will be impossible because luck is not something we can understand easily. I think he can do that again in the future because I am sure that the casino will change their algorithm so no one can crack their game again.

I never have imagined that this was possible, because I have grown knowingly that lottery somehow is a hoax and only the ones that they want to win will win, in short it is an inside job to collect people's money mostly the poor. That guy is awesome and cleared my doubts about lottery, he just shows that winning in legal term is just the same as winning in illegal, all goes to one direction (jail).

12 Times it proves that gambling can be done with mathematic expert. But maybe if other people try that things too, that people can be end like Stefan Mandel, because in real life, gambling place wouldn't let their players to win easily like that.

Being a genius led him to get imprisoned. Is it a crime?
Is it a good or a bad thing that I ain't good at math? He won 12x in lottery because he's smart, it doesn't mean he's cheating or doing something bad. Since he worked for it, compute for it. He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.

Yes because if a person won the lottery and it's a decent amount, I don't think they will still continue to gamble.
For me, my target in a lottery is millions and if I win, I can stop gambling and start that money for a business, that would be a big help and I believe luck only comes once.

for me being so genius on this kind of business isn't safe because you know,  after all the blessings you recieved or luck.. There's always a  bad things will happen afterwards,  like what you mentioned above which some sort of hacking lottery. Wherein because of being so genius he can crack everything. But what happened after ? He go to jail. .lmao

That's why I'm thankful that im not that kind of smart. cause im still enjoying my life outside.  Lol

We didn't know the whole story but for me, once he broke a law he will be punished, especially he traveled for every different country as OP said. And he caught by the government on a country he visited, and every country has different law, maybe on his country some of his action is legal but when he travels and does those actions are illegal there.

Since money is involved here, 'huge' money possible since it is a lottery, eyes of the government here are so hot.

Not all people are capable to do that and only few would risk just to attempt what he did. Sadly as common to many gamblers, he got greedy and repeated it for 12 times making him to alert the government then jail him in the end.

Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see. :)

I think the most important part is the following:


Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.

I have to agree with you, as it is just about probability. We don't have to be genius but we should know how to calculate about the probability of hitting the jackpot compared to how many tickets should be bought in order to make profit. Mandel was just smarter than the one who set the lottery rules as well as smarter than other people so he could calculate the probability to buy the lottery tickets. I do believe he spent a lot of money for it to win that many winnings in the lottery. I can say that he is genius or he exploited the lottery if he won it anytime he buy it with low number of tickets.

So this made the man historical not just in gambling but the whole world?anyway this is not the act that we can see for our lifetime atleast and will never saw again in the future

The man is really a genius and only in the world.

Why not he didn’t become a Cryptonians so maybe he had shared the skills to others or even share the blessings to us here in gambling section 😂

So this is a region-locked youtube video.So it means that your country does sensor any related videos too.So better use up some VPN to view out these things but be careful yet bypassing or violating
your countries laws can put you in harm.

No he wasnt bankrupt but rather he got imprisoned and being banned on doing lotteries due to that all-betting combination method.This isnt actually cracking a code but rather a simple
betting on all possible combinations.

Agree to that, every government have different rules maybe it can be done from one place but not at the other side of the world, if he really did crack the algorithm of the lotto system and repeated it more and more, like what you have said the eyes for him will surely be hot placing him to person of interest in terms of lottery games.

Lottery jackpot is huge, so winning from this kind gambling is really noticeable.

well according to Daily Herald it was Stefan Mandel who was a Math genius and learnt about the algorithm of lottery in Romania and soon migrated to Australia

actually it wasn't 12x but 14 wins from lottery game.and he has lot of investors to have capital in betting the combinations needed to make a win.but now according also to the article he is already bankrupt and had to go in prison several times

I got intrigued by the story so I googled him. What he did was not illegal because he waited for the prize to reach 3 times the number of potential winning combinations. The government cannot arrest him because he has done nothing wrong. He got jailed because he committed some investment scams. He also did not pay his investors and declared bankruptcy.

source: https://allthatsinteresting.com/stefan-mandel

it's possible that a syndicate like this is working on the lottery in any country because it is well documented, the only disadvantages is when two or more people hit the jackpot and they will have to share the jackpot prize between them, he will break even or even lose if this scenario happens.

I always wonder how do the numbers from a lottery got picked every draw, now I know that this algorithms are the answer. What a genius indeed! Winning once in a lottery can be considered as luck, but 12 times? Man. He really got the answer. All I can say is if he knew the answer like that, he shouldn't have used it that way in order to prove his equation, he should have already known that it is right after winning 12 times.

you can easily watch the linked video in youtube to find it out buddy,and the name is clearly says it was Stefen Mandel ,just search in google his story is very popular

though the man wasn't really successful and also his investors falls with him so it was not a good venture after all


are you serious?it was not OP who wins the game lol
check the link please and find out if this is really no stress lol;,they have made a lot of courage and works to make this happen

You are basically making some shitpost on here without even reading up on the topic.OP isn't the winner and try to look up that youtube link

before on making any comments because you actually look dumb on what you are trying to say here.

This isn't a genius thinking but only betting all the numbers.This require big money and support.

You are very right that it is almost impossible to win a single lottery and wining it by 12 consecutive times is just unbelievable. I never knew that any formula can be developed which can make you win a lottery but now I realized that nothing is impossible. I still unable to believe he won lottery 12 times.  ::)

For sure this is history of lottery of 1 man only who win 12 times in lottery and he maybe after few months he win again because he formula he developed was really effective for winning. A person are very happy to win even 1 in lottery to change their life what more him he is very rich for sure and become richer.

I think we've talked about this guy before on a different thread but yes, he's a mathematician from what I remember was the former USSR and even before this lotto adventure, he already used his math skills to win money to be able to escape to the US.

I obviously don't know how they print and distribute the tickets but that's one reason he had some success... the combinations were preprinted on the tickets. IIRC there was a woman in the US who figured out the distribution of tickets and befriended the staff in one of the establishments to reserve tickets for her.

If it's the ball-drawn lotto, it would have been much harder for them to win and they would have to rely on having as much entries as possible to get a decent chance at the prize.

To achieve such a winning is possible with any user who can study the way to pick lotteries. Along with this such a winning is possible only by spending big on choosing more numbers. This increases the probability of winning, in simple if there is 1000 slots and if the 500 slots is being taken by a single person he'll get more chance of winning. This is what happened with the man winning 12 times.

It's just based on pure luck, and I don't think that the man will likely to spend a lot of money buying more tickets to increased his chances of winning.

There are millions if not billions of combinations, maybe what he did is just stick to the numbers and just hope that it will be the winning draw. He maybe smart, but sometimes if lady luck is in your side then nobody can stop your winning many times.

Sometimes we have to think, we are too stupid or he is too smart. I also just realized that every game has its own mathematics and only great people can solve it. If you've heard of the story of Thorp (http://"https://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/14/how-a-mild-mannered-math-professor-beat-the-odds-both-in-vegas-and-wall-street/") being banned from playing blackjack because he is smart at calculating opportunities, the story is almost the same as the man in the OP video.

Why this is not possible?? For me this is possible because when you buy lottery your winning will become almost all about your luck so if you are lucky yes you can win even 100 times. I have seen allot of people who won lottery so many times because of luck you only need to stay careful while choosing a trust worthy website to buy a ticket from.

This is definitive proof of winning the lottery, We need to be geniuses and do math. This genius has been able to win several times I really was very surprised, Now I think I did the same, but it seems frustrating.

That's good, there's no harm in trying to find a way to win in the lottery. We realize this is impossible to do now. Because a genius in mathematics or an algorithm is certainly very difficult to learn about it. So, if there is another way to win the lottery. Maybe it can be shared here  ;)

He really did it and that's not easy, you need a huge amount of money and a lot of staff to pull this off and not to mention the risk of having two or three winners, I don't know if anyone, any group, anywhere is still doing this but I don't see anything illegal it's risky but profitable.

Because we know that luck will not come like that, especially the luck will not always give you a chance to win more than 100 times. So rather than you spend so much money to buy the lottery, it is better to spend some amount of money only and doesn't think about to win the jackpot because that will be difficult. Besides that, to win in the lottery needs big luck, especially to hit the jackpot and only special person who can win the jackpot.

Well, that man is surely a genius! Winning the lottery 12 times? It wasn't just about luck. It took time and effort which was worth it for a while. Just like others, I also don't see anything illegal about it. No laws were broken. However, it was indeed alarming for the government which caused his imprisonment.

For us not that genius, I guess the least we can do is buy more lottery tickets so more chances of winning. And hope that luck will be on our side.

I would not do that, it's too expensive and I don't want to spent a lot of money in lottery due to less chance of winning.
Winning in a lottery needs luck and I believe even with one ticket, if you are really lucky, you can win them.

And what does that tell us?

Right, that the lottery in question was far from being random, truly random. If it were, no math (or meth) would help him predict the outcomes. So the real luck here comes to finding a hole in the lottery engine (or whatever it is called) and then exploiting it to the hilt. But I'm more interested why the lottery organizers didn't start asking questions after his second win as they should have been freaking out after he won for the third time, provided he didn't use straw men as a "front" in his operation, of course (which he should)

That is actually luck for him and 12 times isn't a joke anymore. I believe it is a combination of luck and being a mathematical genius and it is rare to happen again. If I am that person, I'll never say anything to the public of what I've done cause it only attracts attention and could all thinking illegalities I've made.

I do not think that is possible nowadays. The lottery laws are all different now and the number of possible results is way greater than before. He was just lucky because in his era it is easier to reach the desired pot in order to do his trick. I just admired how he got to convince people to finance his lottery tricks.

Maybe the guy who able to win the lottery 12 times has found a bug in the lottery system. The thing that makes me wonder is, why the lottery organization didn't do something to find the bug and try to fix it as soon as possible. So, such an event can be avoided.

I will try to explain this again, because judging by the comments after my previous post, I failed the first time.

Imagine there is a lottery with 100 tickets in total, $1 each, and you know that participants are going to win $300 from the draw. You shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that if you buy all the tickets you are going to win $200, right? That's what he was doing, basically, and nothing more than that.



He couldn't buy that much tickets alone and for that reason he draw public attention promising to divide the prizes among all the participants.

I beg you, guys, please stop calling him mathematical genius. Research, at least a bit, about what you are going to write.

You are assuming that anyone in this thread bothered actually to watch that video. Most of them just read the headline and decided to weight in. But good that there's a least one other that agrees with me :).

To attain such a wining streak in gambling is a feat that must be lauded if done without compromising that lottery system he had also tried his strategy elsewhere at its proved to have provided the same wining results then he should be applauded I don't agree with those who described the feat as a luck why did other gamblers who tried their own strategy and lose? or  did he capitalized on a loop hole or bug in the system that triggers his winning streak? I believed he had a formulated a formula that worked perfectly for him which is very rare in gambling, lotteries and casinos.

I don't know if that man is the luckiest or is there something going fishy. He won 12 times and that is not an extraordinary player like normal players did, even just once in the lottery gambling is hard to win how much more if 12 times. The reply above of mine as right there's no genius mind in the lottery because this kind of gambling platform is not based on that the system has no formula to solve unless if you had bought a thousand pieces of tickets.

this story is very interesting .
But after i clicked on this video i cant belive the story .....the animated video with a computer voice comes not really trusty XD


regards

So winning the lottery does not have to rely on luck, But must develop intellectual skills to become geniuses in the analysis of the algorithm operated by the lottery.

Apart from winning via "inside job", it is possible the math genius exploited the system that churns out random numbers. I believe if he can do this, he can pretty much hack many passwords.  
I think the authorities should have patched the system rather than the arrest alone.

Nope, he did not cracked anything. He just calculated probability and waited for the right amount of pot to cover his expenses if he wins buying all the possible combinations. The only thing I admire on this guy is his tenacity to write down all the possible combinations and his convincing strategy to attract investors in his schemes.

Damn, I'm too curious so i just watch it and i thought it was just recently happened that's why i can't believe such a person would win like that. But to my surprise, it has happened in the late 60s to 90s that he manipulated and exploited the lottery system. That's why the lottery system was changed after that incident and he was the first and last person who did that in the history of the lottery.

It is doubtful because  a person winning twice or thrice could be understandable that luck is in the favours but 12 itself is a huge thing and millions of people do not even get once and someone getting 12 times is myster itself or not really believable to many people .

winning twice and thrice with huge jackpots is already controversial but how much more if its twelve times  ? what happened to him is not a mystery but its a real thing and its not called luck anymore  .

he already figured out all the possible combination and completely beat out the system , this guy shouldve been banned now because if not , he will dried out every lottery station that he could come across  . besides he is already a millionare now , so its okay  .

The thing is that he didn't really crack anything, even though pretty much every article about him states that he did crack the lottery.
He just applied relatively simple odds calculations.

When the prize pool of certain jackpots were high enough, combined with the amount of possible winning number combinations being low enough, he just found investors who would buy up the majority of tickets.
Keep in mind that the total cost of buying these tickets was lower than the amount of money that could be won.

Not that hard really...

Winning 12 times in lottery sounds strange to me since I've never been that lucky or come across anyone that lucky. I also think he being genius contributed to his wins, but it still sounds like a fairy tale to me.

In my opinion about Him, I guess it is not He won because of luck. Since Stefan Mandel won 12 times in lottery it means He is an experts of this gambling in lottery due to that He is a mathematical genius. Maybe He has a technique and basic pattern for it that's why He always win.
He smart in terms of lottery game.

He is lucky dud! If you are winning 7 streak completely in casino games, you are the one who can defeat household or huge players. But imagine, he played and won 12 times in a lottery. Wow, that is pretty amazing! He has a talisman in his chest. Anyway, Don`t be silly in games specially if you always won, maybe it is a bait that if you bet all your money, they will be gone.

You guys dont know on what you are talking.Why not try to look or see that video being posted? Mathematical genius? No it isnt yet this doesnt prove out anything
or doesnt need to be genius yet this simply betting all the possible combinations overall which means there no other way for winning number to come out.
He got imprisoned due to this very hassle method but it does work with proper funding.

Indeed. Maybe the video was created for clickbaiting.
If this story was true, would it be public the name the region and more info about his story? Otherwise, how do we know that this is true and happened in the past?
You have a point there.

If I have this kind of ability to crack new algorithms, I will not reveal my true identity :D.

But men, this will take time to learn. I'd rather not to gamble my money in lottery than learning this and in the end, you will fail or will be imprisoned :D.

Yeah, all eyes on that guy because he made a lot of money or maybe he's already part of the gang who wants to collect huge money from the casinos. Worst case here you will not just put in the jail, someone might kill you because of the money you have. Its not easy to won in gambling as always, just have fun playing simple games.

Yes I know someone very good at maths studying at the highest level and have handed him this with orders to come back with a Porsche should my tip be good and so I wait.

more info for you:
Heres a normal article - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6106541/Australian-mathematician-uses-secret-formula-win-lotto-14-times.html

Actually this sounds entirely feasible at least in proposition, I know that at least lotteries in my own country are never this generous and really not open in this way however its not impossible if certain conditions are met.     Calculate carefully and cleverly and then then many millions behind you in backing to buy every ticket then perhaps its a win but thats not exactly easy to do for most of us.
   I've investigated similar previously and afaik this story is legit though I have not checked this guy specifically I think its another instance.    Lotto firms go to great measures to avoid predictability, some on occasion can be open to it.

I will be afraid to carry the money to my home if I win that a lot of money because I guess that all eyes in the casino or in out of the casino will watch me. I will ask the security to go to my home so I can feel safe.

Even if that story is true, we don't know what was happening to the person because we are far from his home. But we could see that luck will come to the right person and help that person to win a lot of money like him.

Actually it's safer to carry that money if you will keep it low profile. That way possible robbers won't suspect that you're carrying huge amount of money. Also, I think the money you'll get will go through a check account so you don't need to carry a bunch of cash at a single claim. That man who won 12 times in a lottery is a genius and too brave. Imagine you're buying million of tickets from the money of other people, not sure if you'll really get the jackpot. He's really a living legend who caused the major changes on the rules of lottery.

He was sure, I would call it guile more then bravery.   It was just maths and his whole life was a calculation to gift him that tool of insight into the outcomes most likely in this calculated risk.    If a man should carefully plan and place every brick they build throughout their lives towards a destination then there becomes no place on earth that man cannot travel.   If we never progress past the last five minutes in organised thought and aim in our personal objectives, we spend every day going in circles defeating very few larger tasks we might wish to.   
   The fact he ends up in jail for being so clever seems ridiculous but I'm not that surprised, its unfair when one person is able to command a life of knowledge vs most of us who rarely accumulate such effort

That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.

I think it is a huge success for the people who are belonging something to be in their life if he had lots of success in lottery it all about his time and luck so that if we do follow the other things in it also we cannot be successful because lottery are always filled up with you only time.

How di he manage to cracked those codes using mathematical equations?  I didn't watch the video but it's very amazing and wanted to learn those also.

Lotto is a random game that have a small chances of winning. That's  it's still good to organize a lotto using the manual so they can hoard the winning price.

You should have time on watching that video because it doesn't crack anything or any mathematics genius for him to win those lottery.

Just a summation on where he did try to bet all the possible combinations by the help of people funding him on buying those tickets or hoarding them
once they hit the jackpot then they do divide it.

I see, so there's no solutions happened?

I also doubt it since they made it into computerized, they put an algorithm in lotto where no one can easily get the pattern. Modern technology is very complex now so I think it's really impossible for him to cracked the system and win everyday.

That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

But they actually did it.Imagine hitting lottery for 12 times is already a proven strategy and that man managed to get sufficient funding for such lottery bets and with this he made himself being a villain of lottery business. :D

I believe he has high skills in the programming so he can break the lottery algorithm which not all programmer can do. But I don't think that the algorithm was easy to exploit because to break the code, someone needs to master the algorithm so he can be able to crack it. But I would call that he is one of the lucky people who can win 12 times in the lottery game.

There was really no high amount of genius needed. The man is not a mathematical genius either. It does not need a genius to simply bet on almost or all combinations. But I give him the credit for being able to execute what others might have already thought for a long time. This man is not a mathematical genius but one who might be a genius in convincing the people around him to support his seemingly weird idea.

For me, this is possible to do, and honestly, I think the same way that maybe it can be computed or calculated, but I don't a more great mind to make it possible. Also, winning is not all about luck; sometimes, you need effort, skills, and especially a great mind to make it very easy. Stefan Mandel reminds me of the movie catch me if you can. :)

It's really a big lucky break for someone to have that knowledge and use it to win over the lottery, it's a huge earnings since lottery paid big winnings, if he break that and make it very usable for his advantage it will bring a huge amount of money to grab from the house.

He didnt break the code, that might be a feature in some case but this one involved maths and probability calculation which is clever but not past even those without degrees in maths.   Thats why I say its ridiculous that he should put in jail like he broke anything, it seems he took part legally and merely calculated the exact right time to buy up all available tickets.   Even then with probability you can still be wrong, hence he took a risk a good risk but its very unfair to punish fair risk reward.  

This type of calculation in lotteries has taken in a few countries a few different time by various groups.   Its almost always a group because the amounts required are millions usually to best maximise odds.

Now you can see that lotteries are made for pure business, nothing more nothing less. Since some mathematician out there debunked or let's say know the patter to win they change the rules because they will lose more money if they let him continue. This is an eye-opening scenario, I hope some of you now realized that they are doing this not for amusement but mainly to empty your pockets.

Actually, I thought this strange thing only happens in movies and novel (I suddenly remember Sylvester of Scorpion) but I guess I was wrong. It was so amazing that math makes everything possible :).

Mandel is a very genius man who came up winning 12 times in a lottery. He is not just a lucky man, but has a very smart and brilliant mind too. Even if i have that one too, i will also make sure to make huge amounts not just in lottery but even in some other gambling sites too. He is not just an ordinary individual alone, but a gifted and blessed one.

If this is an online thing the only way is to exploit the code.

There is no possible way this is casual, I have more chance to get a drink with Rihanna and Kendall Jenner on my bedroom at the same time then wins the lottery 12 times.

So this news is telling me that lottery is a game for geniuses, more specifically for Math Wizards that can even use quadratic formula in their own life? This is quite insane... It almost gave me the feeling that I should quit being an IT, but luckily it doesn't  :P

Winning for about 3 times is already enough but that guy is already insane. Really insane and might be a weird guy.

Yes this is possible to become winner if lottery even 100 time if you have such good luck. Buying lottery and then hopping for the best is another thing but buying lottery and winning is another thing. There are allot of people who are earning with good luck I am also one of them once i invest in lottery and won second price.

Convincing the investors was an easy part in those cases, because those were not regular lotteries, as you can find them today. What the guy was doing, he was looking for +EV lotteries, where all the previously unclaimed jackpots combined were to be split among the next round participants.

The most important part of the story is that the US authorities have changed the lottery rules since then, so the Mandel's trick can never be performed again.

Mandel's trick is now a thing of the past, but because of this, lottery around the world make their bettors on equal chances, sometimes an anomaly can make something to correct a system for the betterment of everybody, maybe someone out there will try to exploit something in the new system. 

That is just amazing.

I heard the name before, as far as I know, we are arguing about the fact that the possibility in gambling is one in a million but our math teacher said that it is not that slim since people like him did an impossible, and used math. I think that is amazing and confusing at the same time. I am not a math wizard so I don't think that will be happening to other people. I also remembered the biggest Chine bank heist, this is the link to that video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzPJEO10, Credits to the owner of the Youtube Channel and video.

It is about a Chinese robbing the bank and then buying bulks of lottery tickets and if those won, they will take back what they have stolen and hope they can win more than they stole.

Nice video but seems too different from the OP since the one you shared is a robber while the OP is legit mathematical genius.but I love the concept of those robbers in having a idea of returning the money they robbed when they can just simply do the robbery and run away because we are talking about a million bucks here

But in the end still one is indeed that gambling has nothing to bring us but troubles in life

Yes, someone will and that would be the time to upgrade the system again. So far, there's no news about of someone exploiting the lottery system with their mathematical geniuses brain to beat it. Maybe someone already did and they just been living among us trying to blend in the society just to maintain the balance of taking what they just need.

wow.. he is totally an genius and have a little luck.

I totally agree with should to be a mathematical genius, as Edward Thorp (The Father of Card Counting) said "try to figure out what your skill set is & apply that to the markets. if you are strong in computers and math, do the best with a quantitative approach". I think he is Edward Thorp student  :D

No this is not like this I think it is applicable to earn from lottery with your luck but stop saying that warning from lottery could be done with help of some mathematical formula or with a system acceptance.....no lottery is about luck and lucky people can win even 10000000 times.

Gambling will really cause us troubles if we tend to abuse it too.But i still believe gambling is still good enough if its done with discipline.Mandel is really a smart and genius person that he come up winning 12 times in lottery which i think chances for winning is very rare.I have never heard this story happening in my own country.A lot of people have been buying lottery tickets most of the time but still end up losing.

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Are you serious?

Why would the government arrest him if he doesn't do anything wrong?
It's a pure knowledge and skill that he applies to the game, he didn't cheat.
Lottery requires predictions but it's just optional, it depends on you if you will use some different strategy.

I don't like smart-shaming, he just use his brain.

Can't tell that as a lucky thing, besides he used some mathematical equations to predict the winning numbers of that lottery game, so even given by that it would definitely increase his chances of winnings not just by pure luck for he already wasted some effort just to know the answers he's been finding for some quite time, and it really pays him off. This guy is quite telling us to be a genius in math and already proves us that math can be used on anything. LMAO.

(i might just do that if earth is back on the stone world, LOL)

Same goes for me mate, I really thought that only when you take the Engineering Track will be Mathematically Worthy of studying Math. Oh, wanna add some more, even on ANIME, they show you different usage of math in their everyday lives, I really didn't think such man exist nowadays, besides people now are kinda lazy,... Solving math problems is such a hassle. And yet we don't have a clue that in can also be used in gambling, and playing strategic games to win easy in every round,...

Yes, of course, that is not worth if we don't know or don't have good skills in cracking the code like that person. But if we have high-skills like him, I guess we will try to beat the system, and with our skills, we will try hard and perhaps, we have a chance to win like him. But still, that will be too risky for us because we can get caught by the system and that will be dangerous to us because we can get jail. I won't do that thing too like you because besides I don't have the skills to crack the code, I know that if I want to play or buy the lottery, I will need much money and that doesn't guarantee for me to win the prizes.

What people don`t understand is that for every system you need a lot of money to run it, there`s a minimum investment to cover basics and there`s always maximum investment to cover everything. If you noticed in the entire video we didn`t see how many lottery tickets he bought for every lottery, he didn`t win with just one ticket, he needed combinations, and more combinations mean more tickets, more tickets mean higher investment. He only states that you need to calculate possible combinations and lottery prize needs to be at least 3 times as big as the number of combinations. For a lottery that has 37 numbers, you need millions of dollars!

I heard of this before and in fact even in small systems of gambling, especially with the ones that rely on horse bets, where the odds are always changed depending on demand, people can go in and manipulate the odds by placing big bets on some horses, and eventually whatever result, they make money.

Some people are math geniuses indeed, but I wouldn't say that's something you can always rely on:)

So its flaw on government side if they want that player to be restricted from playing without any cheats,even the lottery will lose its credibility if someone keep winning by computing the results so I guess that user cheated on someway that is why he arrested.

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.

Did you forget to read the question mark at last?

I am just asking the same thing you were asked.
So cheating is possible if there is some insiders.

I wouldn't call that investment, besides bets are just money that seems like tokens on some arcades and then the winnings are just some compensations. Investments have risks but not like on gambling where risks are extremely in chances.

I am having a hard time believing that he was able to do it for 12 times without getting caught, he was lucky but at the same time very greedy too. @slaman29 yes people do it on horse races, and their calculations will stun people because we can’t even think the way they calculate in their minds. I’ll agree with you relying on maths is a bad idea, because casinos are evolving and chances are one can get it completely wrong and incur lots of debts.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check because chances of winning in a lottery is almost zero, or less than 1%. Maybe if you are the one operating a lottery, that's what you called yourself investing in.

The answer to this is because the prizes are too big so he can not distract his mind to other things. The video will not show how many tickets he bought because that will not make people interest with the lottery. Perhaps, we only saw some tickets from him, but I guess that will be more than 100 tickets and I think he spends a lot of money. The truth from this is we cannot win easy the lottery without having luck, but it seems, people don't realize about that, and they still hoping to win the prize from the lottery. Yes, million dollars will be needed to win the game, and we don't realize how much money we spent in the end.

My friend, not 100 tickets, here we speak about million tickets at least. Check around, people have tried this already, and they did the math.
The Mega Millions jackpot is up to $1.6 billion. 302,575,350 possible combinations of Mega Millions numbers. At $2 for each ticket, then, it would be possible to buy every possible ticket for $605,150,700.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bcf3690d2e64833f552da02-960-800.png
Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/mega-millions-lottery-buying-every-ticket-math-2018-10 (https://www.businessinsider.com/mega-millions-lottery-buying-every-ticket-math-2018-10)
How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery?The math whizzes quickly discovered that buying about $100,000 in Cash WinFall tickets on those days would virtually guarantee success. Buying $600,000 worth of tickets would bring a 15%–20% return on investment.
Source: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/07/how-mit-students-scammed-the-massachusetts-lottery-for-8-million/ (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/07/how-mit-students-scammed-the-massachusetts-lottery-for-8-million/)

Even if you have so much money, buying tickets would still be a problem, you can`t buy all of them in one place! The machine generates some amount of tickets per hour (I found information around 50 tickets per hour) if you need millions of tickets you will need many people going around buying tickets for all 5 days of the week.

Lol. I don't even think lotteries should be in the same discussion as investments 😁 any sensible person would know there's a world of difference there. And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times? I've heard stories back in the days of how lotteries can be rigged through magnets inside the lottery balls. I'm not so sure how that can work now.

Nope. Imagine this, if you have won already a jackpot then make a bet on all combinations to it, then surely you'll hit the jackpot again, but in terms of lottery with random draw then it would be impossible, even if it happens twice on the same person then that would just be luck.
P.S. Not all lottery games has the same system, features and rules. So every strategy varies on every game.


Yeah right. Besides playing lottery is just like turning your money into an airplane and throw it while expecting, it will return back to the owner.

To be honest, I am shocked to see what you're explaining, and I never thought that involves big money to win. I never calculated or searching about how much chance for people to win the lottery and when I see your image, geez that is huge money we need to win.


I don't think that one person can buy a lot of ticket at the same time, and I think the casino or gambling places would not allow people to do that. But perhaps, we could ask our friends to buy a lot of tickets, and we can make a queue with other people in the gambling places hahaha.

So we know that the chance for one person to win the lottery is small. We cannot buy a lot of tickets because we could only buy 50 tickets per hour and we need more people or friends to help us to buy the tickets. That is why the lottery places can make a huge profit from people who bought the lottery tickets.

Oh i really forget to see it, Actually, i was so surprised on it that anyone could think like it. That someone win the lottery and police arrest him? 

This is the reason why most people feel happy to check their luck in lottery as much as I know lottery is about luck to win and same as the person said no one  can take your luck and what you deserve will surely come to you. I am happy that I have  some lottery tickets in my saving and now praying to be lucky.

Actually, I’m starting to be skeptical about such a situation, because 12 consecutive wins is like an abuse of my capabilities by the administration.  Repeatedly in several countries, legal proceedings were held against several companies where the results of the lottery were faked.

I guess this complement this thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172095.0
Personally I wouldn't have thought lottery can be better than slot or casino gambling. Well, this also implies that nothing is impossible.
Using mathematical means to crack the likely number is good but the process may take quite sometime. If one is always certain about the numbers then the long wait is worth it.

Haha I think the lottery is gambling and gambling is not an investment even investment is not the same as trading.
And it does sound strange to win the lottery 12 times in a row, even that is impossible for me. If that's true, I'm sure people who play the lottery have understood the lottery rules on the site or know the bugs, like in online games, I find a lot of youtube videos that explain bugs to get jackpot items in the game and I've tried it myself, maybe he does things like that.

As he mentioned that he won 12 times it means he must bought allot of tickets and all of h must cost small amount. I once bought a ticket and I won but unfortunately after that I never get a chance to buy but still not late i will try to buy this time if ever got a chance. Yet I am investing in crypto wish me to be lucky same as the person buddy.

I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.

Your post just draw my attention to what I known but seem confused since I read the op message. If someone won 12 consecutively on lottery, does that mean that, he bet on the lottery ? Because all I know about lottery is that, you win because you are chosen among other competitors. Although, that was a good opportunity that he really seized.

That just shows that no one like that you know how to win at something.He got arrested because he won a lottery and far as I know winning a lottery is not considered a crime.People who organize lotteries do so for their own benefit and casual winners do not harm their activity but types like this man makes them angry and because they pay huge taxes to the country they got government support and arrested him.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.

All these "he/she wins so many times" are just gimmicks to stimulate the hidden gambling tendency in people. If you are someone who watches or reads such news then you are one of those with hidden hunger for gambling. These are many as sponsored content by the casinos to promote themselves and nothing more.

You all should know this by now that even if some one wins a big streak it does not mean you will also win a similar streak. They got lucky so they wont and that does not change your luck. So stop listening to propaganda content and do what you do best. Every gambler has their won method of playing and own choice of games.

He is not just mathematically smart but also street wise.

A lot of people thinks that buying a lot of lottery tickets will boost your probability to win but what he did is apply math into it and with a lot of "investors", he can buy a lot of lottery tickets to win. Obviously he did something that can increase that more like printing tickets in their base, which is illegal nowadays.

There are two type of content will we normally hear about the lottery. Few people will support the lottery system and they will also show us how much  they have won in lottery and how it changes their life. Second type of people will tell you that lottery is just a piece of Sh** and you will never won anything from the lottery.

It depends upon us which of the two point of view impress us and we either participate in lottery or quit/leave it.

The ratio between first and the second time could differentiated into millions so lottery supposed to be in losing business then why still they are making money even after paying huge rewards to the winners?

Second type can be divided into further sub categories like people who keep trying until win,people who play from time to time and people who leave after few bets.

I give up. Seriously, I'm not posting in this thread any more. You guys, either just post without reading the OP and comments, or else I don't know how to explain your continuous references to his mathematical geniality.

This thread contains all the answers already. It could be a good source of information regarding the "Man won 12 times in lottery " if there were less replies like this one, quoted by me.

There was nothing wrong with him. The fact is that he is one of the luckiest person who was able to win so many lotteries. Even i couldn't believe first time when i read all this.



How can a mathematical calculations can determine the outcome of lottery. If this was true, then there are many mathematical guru's who could exploit this system of lottery and earn handsome money.

And actually that's exactly what he did, he was looking for jackpots from many different lotteries in which he'd win 3 times the amount he'd spend to play every possible combination.
He was playing the combinations from PCs and with the help of people he was registering the tickets to multiple offices.

Pretty simple solution for 100% win chance, as long as you have the strength to print every possible combination!

Yes. This way of dealing lottery is not for people who cannot do this stuff. I think it is important to know the pros and cons of getting involved in lottery. Normally the odds of success in something like lottery is 1 out of 175 million which is very low. Anyways, it is important to understand the stuff related to an investment if you want to put in your money.

It is way more lower than that as I know about it, many have been playing for almost all of their entire life but never wins the jackpot, even if they win they only get a very small fortune which is just a small compensation for them not to quit playing.

As I can see, games especially lottery has some kind of spell for the gamblers wanting them not to quit even if they win big, just look at that bastard genius, not just once or twice but he made it up 12 times. And that wasn't just a normal thing to do.

They have been losing it wasn’t just mentioned.and besides at the end he even fail and turns losing ,as what the YouTube video tells
They planned to get one of the biggest stakes in lottery history but they can’t.all the investors have get lower than their capital so I guess they paid for what they have done.
And this means one thing.that no one can truly wins in gambling

He is a real genius, people invents, think and create something out of necessity, it's hard to do that, but unfortunately, he do not have enough money to do this, and he asks people to fund him and that's where the real problems come.

I'm sure lotto operator and government who runs a network of lottery knows about this story and they have a system set up to avoid this, but we cannot avoid people coming in to try to cheat the system.

Wow, hackers are just everywhere, and I never knew that we also have hackers in gambling too, so could this then be classified to fraud and an offense that is punishable? I don’t think we have much of this type of genius around, although we have so many people that are very good with coding but to crack a system 12 times to win, hmm, that would really be an extra ordinary genius, and even if government does everything possible to ensure that this does not happen again, as far as the man is still roaming about the street, I am sure that he too will always find a way around this also, and would not rest until he gets another way to do so, anyway, i envy him, if I had that resources also, I would use it because making legal money is really not easy.

That aint getting lucky anymore. As you say, he is a genius in mathematics and have seen all the possible figures. If he did won, then it aint possibility anymore but accurately.

You cannot mess with this kind of guys.
Also, this just tells how the system of lotto is rigged.
If someone will knew what numbers will pop out to that machine then they are really trying to avoid to have winners every day.

Just for fun with some numbers.
I ever make mathematics formula and ms.excel a few years ago. Make some prediction lottery numbers result.

Take the last result the lottery winning number and calculating it with my formula.
https://i.imgur.com/dtrfkyo.png
There are 100 numbers (00 - 99) and I use 30 - 58 (not randomly) yellow number taken from my formula.

At last, I need the right time, the right place to fill the bet, and luck in my shoot.

Surely there are no more people like Stefan Mandel.
Now there is no way anyone can win the lottery 12 times. At least it can be 2 times in a row, that's also if luck approaches you. So now it's just luck in playing the lottery.

I doubt this because if this statement is even remotely possible then every mathematician can become beat the casino games. Which is again false. Thus the statement of assumption was wrong. Time and again we have seen that probability can only predict an outcome and not definitely is is going to be so.

So technically the player cheated the broken system? That could be called a exploitation too.

Possible and I would say that the casino was at fault.

I guess that’s not consecutive winnings mate because in between sometimes on their process they have also failed in their calculations,and you can read the story over internet and there is also a video in YouTube
Indeed there’re some issues came out year ago and until now that the result of Winners are questionable and there’s a hearsay that government employees (actually someone close to them)are becoming the winner since the anonymity of winners is always there so who knows who really wins?

I'm thinking what if he has the means to do this scheme without the help of investors, he could have won more than 12 times if he can do it all by himself without thinking of investors that will mess with his strategy.

I'm pretty sure somewhere in a country where lotteries are being operated there are syndicates that are working to rigged or exploit the system it's a multi-million dollar business and every business that is as huge as the lottery is prone to corruption.

Did he mentioned that?i doubt that he didn’t  mate,and he was asking I supposed.
All Lottery bettors are predicting the winning combinations(aside from the topic because he was a genius that calculates the combination)so there’s nothing to highlight that
I believe that this is out of topic because we’re in Lottery
Never lose temper in understanding some points mate because we have different outlook about matters and that’s hers

There's incident which is been reported before that a certain chairman of a board who facilitated the lottery able to rigged the results of a lottery draw and let certain politician wins the jackpot, there's no impossible to anything when it deals with such huge amount of money, syndicate are around and can easily takeover once corrupt officials allowed them to take place.

I will okay if I can win 2 times in a row but each winning, I can win the jackpot hahaha ;D

That is only in my dream, and I don't have any luck in the lottery. That man will be the luckiest person who can win the lottery 12 times. That will be hard to beat his record unless we have a luck in every row. But I believe that in the future, that record will be break by other people who can win more than 12 times. We will see it later on the news.

There are few people who have won the lottery at least once. And even fewer who won a large sum of money. Therefore, winning 12 times is already fantastic.

I just do not see how he could possibly win 12 times. Are these winnings from actual scratch off tickets or are they games like the mega millions and the powerball?

I do not believe there is any possible mathmatical equation for either option.

Lets say there are 60 numbers in a giant cage blowing around 1 number was to bump with another ball it would throw his equation completely off.

I am far from a mathmatical genius but it just does not seem possible...


Lets say he won on specificly scratchers, how would he know what roll and number in the roll to buy? As well as how would he know where to go in his specific state to find the said roll? It sounds like clickbait to me. Why would he be making youtube videos if he is already rich...

I believe the newest satoshi claiming he lost the keys to his 980,000BTC before I believe that...

That's a good story but I dont think your 2 points will help anyone.  You cant just become a mathematical genius lol.  And #2, well that's just obvious.  Still think lottery is pure luck unless you have an insider that is cheating..

I n the option you provided above that whoever want to be like this Man should be a Mathematician which means you need not to consider the second option of luck because doesn't work in Mathematics just to do and be good at it you will then be like this Man you mentioned in your submission.

It's hardly believed the Mathematics method of guessing the numbers in the lottery, every lottery company has different algorithms and I don't think every mathematician will crack on it by his solving strategy. However, when it comes luck I think 1% of it might you have while the rest is on lottery owner if you only buy 1 ticket. It means the more you have been bought tickets the more of high chances in winning you have.

The point is he chose his battles carefully, the odds favoured a profitable outcome in certain roll over conditions.   It wasnt just this man if you want the true story, its been repeated a few times in more then one country.

Many European countries have some national lotteries like 6 from 42 or 6 from 45 and I don't think there is room for corruption here because the numbers are shown on Tv as they are being drawn,the six winning numbers.In many countries this lottery stays a few weeks without being won and with the average price of a ticket from 1.2-2.5 Euros this is truly a multimillion dollar business.

According to trading economics, the odds of claiming the jackpot in lottery are very low. 1 out of more than 150 million chances for someone to win the jackpot at lottery. This is a very uncertain scenario and I think despite getting involved in the contest one should try out some solid assets. Crypto is sweet thing. Investing money in crypto is something that has definite return if dealt well.

A nice mind in winning 12 TIMES in a lottery. For me, I cannot consider this a combination of luck and skills in math. Winning 12 times in lottery makes you not lucky. Thus, it means that you have a strategy that is clearly working on that lottery game. Glad that he's being prevented to win, so that it can create chance for others to win also.

Nice mind ?  Lol  yeah because the guy is smart that he make a formula to beat the gambling but for us common gamblers a nice mind wont help because  luck is mostly our tool to win  . what happen to him is not luck but it can be explained by pure skill and knowledge  .

He is ban not because for others to be given a chance to won but he is banned because the gambling owner think what he did is illegal and against the rule  .  if im the operator i will also do the same because this is abusive

You do not need a mind to win in lottery.  :D
People only win in lottery who have luck with them. Lottery is the most difficult games to win among all the gambling games. Many people not even won lottery even a single time and the OP has won it straight 12 times.

Agree with you in gambling people use to win by luck because lottery is being drown since long people use to buy it and wait for the luck  when you are not lucky you will not win and yes in this corruptions is hard it happens because it is all blind task no one know 40 out of 6 or 10 who will be those lucky people.

The chances thaf we had with lottery is very low, somehow no a good investment as well if we analyze it briefly. Good thing is somebody won a great amount of crypto, but I don't think it's possible to win 12 times in a day. It may took more days or even weeks.

Oh he is very lucky and congrats to him, by the way I still believe it's a pure luck, I don't believe because he is genius in the number again i believe it's a prie luck and their effirt and ideas as genius can help a little bit for digit analysis bit is doesn't mean he got the winning number because of their mind genius.

I see many people are commenting without even reading about this guy! ::)

He was NOT LUCKY, he was searching for jackpots from different lotteries in which the jackpot would be 3 times the amount he'd spend to buy every possible combination.
He was playing the combinations from PC and with the help of people he was registering the tickets to multiple offices.

If you play every combination, then you obviously have 100% chance of winning! So, this looks more like investing than gambling... he invested time and money to calculate and buy all the combinations without making a mistake, then he'd get more money than what he'd invest. So.... that's investing!

Just don't mind them buddy,

And by the way, this guy really is LUCKY in terms of winning, but NOT LUCKY in terms of the way he wins the game, perhaps he may be cheating the game, I once shared this story to one of my friends whose fond of playing gambling games games at the casino and I was told that this is merely impossible to achieve besides winning 3 times in a row will be miraculously insane.

But as for this scenario, I have also think about that, this wasn't just a genius thing or what. But just a chance of getting the winning procedures on his hands.

That guy invested ton of money (read millions) He made every possible combination. (over 3 million). It was a sure thing.

Back then there was not an option for a system plays. Lets say typical lottery has 5 numbers and 2 extra numbers. Which costs 2 euros.

Now you can buy a lottery ticket that has 10 numbers and 2 extras and the ticket costs 1500 euros lol. Your chance to hit those 5 numbrs out of 10  increases drastically.

I think iam setting up a lottery syndicate group. Current eurojackpot is 40 million. most of the wins are going to finland cos there are syndicates playing it. 10 or more people investing every week. That means paying for a ticket is cheaper. Once they hit the jackpot they split the win.

Iam buying eurojackpot, spending 40eur a week lol. Anyone also playing for fun? or is interested to  split the cost? 15 people buying 20 tickets thats 2.50 per ticket instead of 40. There is a system where you can buy 7 balls and 4 extras. that costs 230 per ticket.


Anyone wants to play eurojackpot weekly? 2.50 a ticket and 40 lines with 15 people. If you gonna gamble anyway, then why not to spend 2 euros per week, without high hopes. Just to get some friday fun. Cos the draw is made on fridays

We choose the numbers all together and play the same numbers every week. A bit of fun every friday why not`? Even if jackpot does not hit still 3 and 4+2numbers are giving a great return

I never know a person can win the lottery because it is not easy to get a win. He has big luck in the lottery so that he can win that money. We could only imagine if someday we can win big money like him. I am sure we will be happy, and we want to buy many things which we don't have. It's never been easy to win money in gambling.

I dont think it was a sure thing but just on average it worth doing.   All the schemes of this type I've read about were done on the basis that if playing in most games it would yield a profit.   The syndicate is required because its possible at least once they might not get back all their money, they will make a loss.   Not an absolute loss but it was possible for them to spend more on tickets then they got back.
   How he managed to get locked up in jail for attempting this is wrong, any reasonable business involves risk of loss and here that was the case but the government found his involvement was too clever perhaps.   Lotteries like alot of state taxes are a voluntary self tax on stupidity, hence drink and cigarettes are a big target in almost every country.   If he found a way to be clever and make a profit most weeks, it doesnt seem dishonest to me.

Your idea probably could increase ones chances of winning... but how sure are you that was what the "math man" did to win so much lotteries? I have my doubts.

I have thought about your idea in my early days on gambling section. I thought what if I can get all my family members to buy up the whole lottery tickets with their own money and anyone who wins could share the price with the rest of the family. I guess this could work? It's possible that many have tried it without success

It`s not his idea, he just saw it somewhere on the internet. Many people have tried this without success, cause you need to cover too many possible combinations, for that you need a little fortune. Depending on the lottery time, number of combinations is different, but give or take it`s always more than 10 million possible combinations, with 1 dollar per combination, and sometimes more, you need 10 M dollars to cover all that, so lottery you chase need to have main prize over that amount. Can you invest all that money with your family?

Did you read the article at all? Back then you could print out lottery tickets yourself. And yes he made every possible combinations, investing with investors millions and millions. But this was not my point. But what syndicates are doing... They just group up and buy tickets weekly. And only investing 2- 3 euros per person weekly. Avarage coffee costs 3 euros in gas station. So

Instead of paying that ticket alone 40 euros if youre playing alone. But for 15 people it would be 2 euros weekly for 40 tickets. Would you rather buy that
3 euro coffee or 40 lottery tickets that costs 3 euros?. Obviously it is not oriented to win the jackpot, but just investing weekly 3 euros in the lotter tickets. 40 tickets weekly. 12 euros for 160 tickets per month. If you want to buy a coffe then go for it. But if people just want to invest 3 euros, that dosent kill you, then lets play it. There isnt nothing much to lose. But to win a ton if you hit it