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Title: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 23, 2019, 08:30:51 AM

THE BATTLE HAS BEEN WON!




Congratulations, OG, The International 2019 Champions!

(Photo grabbed from https://www.facebook.com/wykrhmreddy/photos/a.255722787803667/3076577352384849/?type=3&theater)



Here's the final ranking and their corresponding prizes.




We've just had a very successful The International 9! See you all again next year!


Sources:
https://www.vpesports.com/dota2/newbee-acquire-the-ex-forward-gaming-roster-will-be-going-to-ti9
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/406124997/
http://chinaherald.news/valve-announces-dota-2-world-championship-2019-in-shanghai/


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on July 23, 2019, 08:44:45 AM
I'm rooting for three teams: LGD, Team Secret or Virtus Pro to take TI9's aegis. Any of these teams has high chance to become the champs.

The prize pool may even increase for few more weeks.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 23, 2019, 08:56:03 AM
Liquid at epicenter has great gameplay with the miracle he got an MVP award at Epicenter, TI 9 probably will really have cooled match between Liquid with old member Matubaman. Also, Na`Vi & Alliance get a spot at TI 9 and make the game will be El - Classico.

Also PSG.LGD Training was really hard, they have some rules for the team member to always training at Bootcamp if not they will pay some charge to the company.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 23, 2019, 09:03:58 AM
I'm rooting for three teams: LGD, Team Secret or Virtus Pro to take TI9's aegis. Any of these teams has high chance to become the champs.

The prize pool may even increase for few more weeks.

According to the latest DPC points, the top is Team Secret and the second spot is taken by Virtus Pro. And so they are the favorites, so to speak. However, if you take into consideration the track record of Team Secret, the famous avengers-like team, not once did it even reach the finals however favorite they appear to be for the fans. Let us see how they will fare this year. This is going to be exciting!

The prize pool is indeed dumbfounding even at this current amount!

 


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on July 23, 2019, 09:15:29 AM
I'm rooting for three teams: LGD, Team Secret or Virtus Pro to take TI9's aegis. Any of these teams has high chance to become the champs.

The prize pool may even increase for few more weeks.

According to the latest DPC points, the top is Team Secret and the second spot is taken by Virtus Pro. And so they are the favorites, so to speak. However, if you take into consideration the track record of Team Secret, the famous avengers-like team, not once did it even reach the finals however favorite they appear to be for the fans. Let us see how they will fare this year. This is going to be exciting!

The prize pool is indeed dumbfounding even at this current amount!
Beyond that, they are the teams that haven't got the spotlight and still doesn't own an aegis.

The prize pool sure is higher than last year but there's a competition that's happening currently in the e-sports community and that's with Fortnite but still the Dota 2 community is larger and managed to surpass FN's prize pool.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: swogerino on July 23, 2019, 10:11:19 AM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 23, 2019, 10:16:19 AM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.
Probably other game really famous because only a hype game, example like Fortnite went they are on number 1 spotlight game and after Apex Legend rilis to the public all fortnite player change to apex legend but if you see bot of this game seems like the hype already down. Dota its still Dota, you can check the player online always around 500-600K Player each days and we always have unique player each days.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 24, 2019, 03:19:33 AM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.
Probably other game really famous because only a hype game, example like Fortnite went they are on number 1 spotlight game and after Apex Legend rilis to the public all fortnite player change to apex legend but if you see bot of this game seems like the hype already down. Dota its still Dota, you can check the player online always around 500-600K Player each days and we always have unique player each days.

Dota 2 is still enjoying a solid body of fans. The prize pool for this 9th TI speaks for it. It is above 30 million USD already and growing. It is higher than Fortnite World Cup's prize pool. This means that The International remains the largest esports event to date.

Thanks for share this OP. On past i play a lot DOTA and win some national tournaments but over time i didn't have time for games and also i didn't play DOTA 2 but on past year a lot of friends play it and was very popular on past , anyway i wish good luck to all teams who will play.

No problem, mate! I just want to add a little topic to discuss on this section. I know there are a good number of TI or Dota 2 followers here. By the way, I'm sure you are a monster in Dota 2 considering that you have won national tournaments. Which country are you from?



I hope sportsbet would list the games a little earlier than before so that we could see the odds and place our bets earlier as well.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: samputin on July 24, 2019, 03:42:08 AM
Thanks for share this OP. On past i play a lot DOTA and win some national tournaments but over time i didn't have time for games and also i didn't play DOTA 2 but on past year a lot of friends play it and was very popular on past , anyway i wish good luck to all teams who will play.

You're a national player? Cool. Just wondering, which country are you from?

Personally, I don't know much about DOTA. But I watched my classmates play such games during highschool. And I must say, trash talks are everywhere, every time they play. I also get to watch bit of the international game on TV. And I really didn't get it. However, I think a Filipino team won an international DOTA game before. I'm just not sure what year was it. And I don't know their team's name. So if you don't mind me asking guys, could you please enlighten me about the team? And will they be competing this year? If yes, then I'm looking forward to their win.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: eternalgloom on July 24, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.

It's still very popular around the world, I mean just look at the crowds those events draw and the absolutely massive prize pool.
I'm betting on Team Secret to win this one, they've really shown that they're capable of winning after the KL Major.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 24, 2019, 09:55:17 AM
It's still very popular around the world, I mean just look at the crowds those events draw and the absolutely massive prize pool.
I'm betting on Team Secret to win this one, they've really shown that they're capable of winning after the KL Major.
I also have some feeling with Team Secret.

But my other speculation also on OG, Liquid, PSG.LGD & Other China Teams

The cursed of TI still not yet over, the last TI8 Europe team wins (OG) against china team (PSG.LGD) that ti winner should china team based on the cursed. If I'm not wrong, the TI Cursed Winner always like this Europe win after that China wins then repeat again.

If this TI9, China team win the aegis. Then the cursed still continue.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on July 24, 2019, 10:11:05 AM
I'm rooting for three teams: LGD, Team Secret or Virtus Pro to take TI9's aegis. Any of these teams has high chance to become the champs.

The prize pool may even increase for few more weeks.

LGD is really a tough team to beat. Yes all teams has chances of winning the aegis but I am still rooting for liquid or OG to take it all. Anyways there should be a blackship which is the TNC predator and all Filipino team which shock the world during ti6.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: mu_enrico on July 24, 2019, 11:11:05 AM
But my other speculation also on OG, Liquid, PSG.LGD & Other China Teams
LMAO, why you pick all of them, mate? ;D

TI is always tricky to predict since this game forever changes, e.g., the map changed, hero added, rebalanced, reworked, etc.

From the "historical analysis," not a single team has won more than once. So my bet simply go to Team Secret

Last chance before Puppey retired.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: NavI_027 on July 24, 2019, 11:33:25 AM
I'll go with Kuku and the gang ;D. I do believe that they're not an easy opponent and considereded as a threat for other teams since they able to beat OG before, remember? I'm just hoping that Kuku can now moderate his trashtalking habit or else he will get banned again lol, he would be a big loss for his team if ever. The TI9 will be held on China so they must be more careful because for sure that the majority of the crowd will be looking at them.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: jakelyson on July 24, 2019, 12:33:09 PM
I will go with the top favorite Team Secret, Evil Genius and Liquid. I always like watching the gameplays of these guys. I hope they do well in TI9.

TI is always tricky to predict since this game forever changes, e.g., the map changed, hero added, rebalanced, reworked, etc.

That is the beauty of DOTA, there is never a dull moment in this game. The managers surely took the changes in consideration when making line ups. That is why players always have training and boot camps.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 24, 2019, 12:47:38 PM
LMAO, why you pick all of them, mate? ;D

TI is always tricky to predict since this game forever changes, e.g., the map changed, hero added, rebalanced, reworked, etc.

From the "historical analysis," not a single team has won more than once. So my bet simply go to Team Secret

Last chance before Puppey retired.
Yeah, Just my 2 cent bruhhh.

If Team Secret got the aegis, then Puppey got the second aegis as a player. But for the team, its the first aegis for Team Secret.

I don't know, why i support other teams Lel~. I'm a fan of Na`Vi, I know its really difficult to follow the patch example like dendi he cants handle the patch right now. He should retire and become a coach.

I will go with the top favorite Team Secret, Evil Genius and Liquid. I always like watching the gameplays of these guys. I hope they do well in TI9.
Remove EG from your list, RTZ its a cursed man. We all know EG already got his place on 3rd, because of artezy. ;D Still laugh went sumail got an interview, and talk about artour.

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The legend says, artezy still on the cliff


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Zicadis on July 24, 2019, 01:28:31 PM
Not too sure about you but this year there is literally zero hype by Steam. Go back to TI14 for instance. To me that was the most hyped esports event outside of lol and csgo in the west and compared to the grandeur of the starcraft and warcraft tourneys in the east.

Now come back to the current one. See the difference in hype? They really went cheap this year.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: milewilda on July 24, 2019, 01:43:33 PM
Not too sure about you but this year there is literally zero hype by Steam. Go back to TI14 for instance. To me that was the most hyped esports event outside of lol and csgo in the west and compared to the grandeur of the starcraft and warcraft tourneys in the east.

Now come back to the current one. See the difference in hype? They really went cheap this year.
They hype might not be similar in TI4 but the current prize pool speak for itself that Dota 2 becomes bigger and more popular.None of other esports events cant match up on what they have collected atm.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: YuginKadoya on July 24, 2019, 01:47:16 PM
This is pretty exciting indeed because I really love watching a game of DOTA back then, And now that DOTA 2 has great graphics that most of the gamers loved, So on to the bets I would surely like to see how Royal Never Give Up and Ninja's In Pyjamas will do in this event I have watched their match back then and I am pretty amazed at their tactics and strategy so I am very well known with them, but seeing the need to support my fellow Pinoy I would support a team that has Filipino players on it and hope that they will win, So my pick would be TNC Predator, Mineski, And Fnatic, Although I would really want to go bet for Royal Never Give Up or Ninja's In Pyjamas, This is just to show my support.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on July 24, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
This is pretty exciting indeed because I really love watching a game of DOTA back then, And now that DOTA 2 has great graphics that most of the gamers loved, So on to the bets I would surely like to see how Royal Never Give Up and Ninja's In Pyjamas will do in this event I have watched their match back then and I am pretty amazed at their tactics and strategy so I am very well known with them, but seeing the need to support my fellow Pinoy I would support a team that has Filipino players on it and hope that they will win, So my pick would be TNC Predator, Mineski, And Fnatic, Although I would really want to go bet for Royal Never Give Up or Ninja's In Pyjamas, This is just to show my support.
South East Asian Teams are really capable and im surprised that TNC predator is already included into invites without the need for entering the

regional qualifiers and we have seen that Mineski does represent SEA.Good to look for these teams but journey to the top ranks or spots is already a hard fought one specially to those top tier teams like LGD VP etc.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: YuginKadoya on July 24, 2019, 05:08:57 PM

 Thats right because this games are really have more needed skills that you will know if who are the best players to use especially a strategy that to defeat their opponent. Just like on other games, DOTA is really unpredictable if who will win, but its based on their players if how good they are. Dota is an addicted, especially on my country, but it has a great benefits to the players.


Yes we can really say that this game is unpredictable and it will surely base on the player's skills, recognition with the enemies skills, Teamwork, And Coordination there will be a lot to take notes on to make sure every victory, but right now I don't really want to bring all that up, but instead I will just support my chosen teams and hope for the best, So I will let luck decide my fate.


South East Asian Teams are really capable and im surprised that TNC predator is already included into invites without the need for entering the

regional qualifiers and we have seen that Mineski does represent SEA.Good to look for these teams but journey to the top ranks or spots is already a hard fought one specially to those top tier teams like LGD VP etc.


Well, there are some doubts that can't be helped because we can say that Team Liquid and Virtus Pro can be big paint when it comes to rankings and the presence they emit when thinking about their names can be intimidating but I guess my pick has all that it takes to really bring the fight to them.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 24, 2019, 10:08:39 PM
I will go with the top favorite Team Secret, Evil Genius and Liquid. I always like watching the gameplays of these guys. I hope they do well in TI9.
EG has a curse.  :P
The top 3 curse, add Virtus Pro and PSG.LGD to these teams and these are tier 1 teams of the world. Puppey has always something new to pick, I love his drafts and I think he's the best picker in the world. There are new teams that got in to The International 9 and Infamous has an interesting carry, Chris Brown/Chris Luck.
Is there any NaVi fan here though Dendi isn't there anymore?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: AliMan on July 24, 2019, 11:19:56 PM
This is pretty exciting indeed because I really love watching a game of DOTA back then, And now that DOTA 2 has great graphics that most of the gamers loved, So on to the bets I would surely like to see how Royal Never Give Up and Ninja's In Pyjamas will do in this event I have watched their match back then and I am pretty amazed at their tactics and strategy so I am very well known with them, but seeing the need to support my fellow Pinoy I would support a team that has Filipino players on it and hope that they will win, So my pick would be TNC Predator, Mineski, And Fnatic, Although I would really want to go bet for Royal Never Give Up or Ninja's In Pyjamas, This is just to show my support.
Thats right because this games are really have more needed skills that you will know if who are the best players to use especially a strategy that to defeat their opponent. Just like on other games, DOTA is really unpredictable if who will win, but its based on their players if how good they are. Dota is an addicted, especially on my country, but it has a great benefits to the players.

Addiction can be handled on gaming, because once you're skilled to do it by heart you know your limitations to perform reponsibly. If you win with dota, the legacy and experience will be an additional reputation for you which turned out useful with the next rounds of games. Just same when the gambling bets you had with, only the best teams of dota2 will win and take the lucky profit.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 25, 2019, 03:14:01 AM

 Thats right because this games are really have more needed skills that you will know if who are the best players to use especially a strategy that to defeat their opponent. Just like on other games, DOTA is really unpredictable if who will win, but its based on their players if how good they are. Dota is an addicted, especially on my country, but it has a great benefits to the players.


Yes we can really say that this game is unpredictable and it will surely base on the player's skills, recognition with the enemies skills, Teamwork, And Coordination there will be a lot to take notes on to make sure every victory, but right now I don't really want to bring all that up, but instead I will just support my chosen teams and hope for the best, So I will let luck decide my fate.

Luck may not really be the thing in betting Dota 2 games especially because we have already a little inkling about the gaming patterns of each player, their strongest heroes, their typical strategies, and so on. But then again, there are factors that may actually confuse our final decision. The unpredictability of every game therefore remains to a very high extent. We have to take note that there are more than a hundred heroes and teams are always on a hunt for new strategic combinations. Furthermore, new players are added to some teams. The chemistry will be another issue.

It is sometimes lovely how a single stroke of luck could turn the entire game upside down especially at the clutch moments of the game. Imagine a single wrong buy-back and the fate of a game is finally sealed. This is gonna make a good betting esport come August.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: mu_enrico on July 25, 2019, 04:48:00 AM
Is there any NaVi fan here though Dendi isn't there anymore?
Dendi should be retired because there is a limit for a human to stay competitive. I follow Dendi since he was in the DTS. It is sad to see that he never recovered from the dream coil :)

It is sometimes lovely how a single stroke of luck could turn the entire game upside down especially at the clutch moments of the game.
I still remember the "million dollar echo slam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElXGllTpp0)" and "million dollar dream coil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0zE8DcxpT4)"

I think it involved a little bit of luck, luck that he created by practicing it a million times.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on July 25, 2019, 05:13:11 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_uWF-QU8AAUz5s?format=jpg&name=medium (https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/1151679168880373760)
With the upcoming, The International 9, only 2 legendaries left, which are The International ALL-TIMERS ;). It's just so happy because they are still active playing and still can qualify to The International, these both guys also won an aegis, so I can really say they are dope legendaries.

Quick question, is there already a dota2 professional player already won The International champion twice? Because I was thinking if there is none, maybe we can see on the upcoming The International 2019.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 25, 2019, 05:15:28 AM
It is sometimes lovely how a single stroke of luck could turn the entire game upside down especially at the clutch moments of the game.
I still remember the "million dollar echo slam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElXGllTpp0)" and "million dollar dream coil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0zE8DcxpT4)"

The $6,000,000-worth echo slamma jamma and $4,000,000-worth dream coil!  :o Literally jaw-dropping! Dota 2 games can literally stun millions of people!

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I think it involved a little bit of luck, luck that he created by practicing it a million times.

Which effectively makes it not luck at all.  ;)


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: kaya11 on July 25, 2019, 09:07:46 AM
Liquid at epicenter has great gameplay with the miracle he got an MVP award at Epicenter, TI 9 probably will really have cooled match between Liquid with old member Matubaman. Also, Na`Vi & Alliance get a spot at TI 9 and make the game will be El - Classico.

Also PSG.LGD Training was really hard, they have some rules for the team member to always training at Bootcamp if not they will pay some charge to the company.

I am Liquid fan despite being an Asian and a Filipino, I do really like how Miracle carries the game with the help and support of his team mates. I will be betting all of my in-game Dota 2 items when Liquid will be at the finals, so if not I would just bet some. I really love dota 2 and this is the only game that I play, I am excited to who will reign in TI 9, I hope Liquid does.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on July 25, 2019, 01:45:46 PM
Liquid at epicenter has great gameplay with the miracle he got an MVP award at Epicenter, TI 9 probably will really have cooled match between Liquid with old member Matubaman. Also, Na`Vi & Alliance get a spot at TI 9 and make the game will be El - Classico.

Also PSG.LGD Training was really hard, they have some rules for the team member to always training at Bootcamp if not they will pay some charge to the company.

I am Liquid fan despite being an Asian and a Filipino, I do really like how Miracle carries the game with the help and support of his team mates. I will be betting all of my in-game Dota 2 items when Liquid will be at the finals, so if not I would just bet some. I really love dota 2 and this is the only game that I play, I am excited to who will reign in TI 9, I hope Liquid does.
Miracle is always been the favorite with its excellent playing styles that carried out the team most of the time but the key would always be on the teamworks itself.

So you are going to put all of your bettables for Liquid? Consider OG and EG+ Secret on the top.This wont be an easy one.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: crwth on July 25, 2019, 02:04:12 PM
This is the biggest prize pool yet with The International IIRC. I read it somewhere, and I think the stage is even more competitive with the teams that are up against. I also understand that there are multiple players that are going to debut with the competition. I think it’s going to be exciting.

If I had the time to gamble with the games, I think I would be betting with the teams with the highest percentage of winning. That’s what I’m going to bet on. Lol.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on July 25, 2019, 02:22:02 PM
This is the biggest prize pool yet with The International IIRC. I read it somewhere, and I think the stage is even more competitive with the teams that are up against. I also understand that there are multiple players that are going to debut with the competition. I think it’s going to be exciting.
Yes it was and it managed to break the highest prize pool of Fortnite which seemed to be the highest for the whole e-sports scene.

If I had the time to gamble with the games, I think I would be betting with the teams with the highest percentage of winning. That’s what I’m going to bet on. Lol.
You are betting safely but there are also some sick plays that are turning the game and even do comebacks which are unexpected.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: crwth on July 25, 2019, 02:50:01 PM
~snip
Yes it was and it managed to break the highest prize pool of Fortnite which seemed to be the highest for the whole e-sports scene.
I was surprised because almost all the time when I hear that someone is playing games, it’s all about Fortnite and all it’s craze around it. I prefer PUBG over Fortnite, if it was me. Well, maybe because I had a hard time playing Fortnite. But we are not talking about those games, are we? Lol

~snip
You are betting safely but there are also some sick plays that are turning the game and even do comebacks which are unexpected.
That’s already a fact and it’s all about luck too but mostly skill of the players in working together and conquering the game. I think it’s going to be unpredictable but there would be underdogs that could beat high ranking teams. Let’s see what could happen.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on July 25, 2019, 03:40:00 PM
That’s already a fact and it’s all about luck too but mostly skill of the players in working together and conquering the game. I think it’s going to be unpredictable but there would be underdogs that could beat high ranking teams. Let’s see what could happen.
Anything can happen in the tournament and there are really underdogs that can beat out high tier teams just like what happened with OG and TNC fighting for the semi-finals.

Luck is also a factor on winning the game and buybacks on the right time is very crucial because it can turn up side down the situation in an instant.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on July 25, 2019, 03:52:47 PM
~snip
Yes it was and it managed to break the highest prize pool of Fortnite which seemed to be the highest for the whole e-sports scene.
I was surprised because almost all the time when I hear that someone is playing games, it’s all about Fortnite and all it’s craze around it. I prefer PUBG over Fortnite, if it was me. Well, maybe because I had a hard time playing Fortnite. But we are not talking about those games, are we? Lol
Before it was PUBG but when Fortnite has arrived, many have shifted to that new game. Yes, let's go back to Dota 2 discussion.

That’s already a fact and it’s all about luck too but mostly skill of the players in working together and conquering the game. I think it’s going to be unpredictable but there would be underdogs that could beat high ranking teams. Let’s see what could happen.
Yes that's right, I'm following some underdogs that aren't crowd favorites but has high chance to beat high tier teams.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: dothebeats on July 25, 2019, 04:02:39 PM
I really want my boys over at EG, PSG.LGD or OG to win this year's TI. I've spent quite a decent amount of cash for the cosmetics and have my physical Aegis registered for next year's shipping. It'd be pretty sweet if these teams I'm rooting for somewhat make it over top 8 or higher positions. Anyway, here are my insights in each of the teams that I'm rooting for this year's most prestigious gaming event:

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Evil Geniuses: Cliffteezy, the Curse of the 3rd, among countless other monikers for the 'Bleed Blue' team is what makes this squad a really good candidate to win TI (just to break the curse, lol). But seriously, with Fly's excellent captain skills and cr1t's save plays for the team, as long as the supports keep the ball rolling, Arteezy and Sumail will have a decent time farming and raking up those golds towards victory. Seriously, I just wanted RTZ to get that Aegis and for him to stream regularly again.

PSG.LGD: This team is one of the most voted winners for last year's TI. They became my favorite team during 2018's DPC season. The composure of this team, even under pressure is so great that they can still manage to bring the fight back to the enemy even if they are on a huge slump. Of course, fy's drafting skills and great Rubick plays will again be a show to watch out for. I have very high hopes for this team to win this year, as they had put up an intensely great fight against OG, and they could have won that game had it not been for jerax's Echo Slam that controlled the retreating Dire heroes.

OG: I just want Ana to get all the best things in life, considering how well he plays and carries the game in his back almost every time. Not to mention that they are really fun to watch, especially tilting VP on last year's tournament and Ceb's crazy antics. There is of course a weak link on Topson, as he may or may not step up in the game depending on the situation.


Good luck to all our bets!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 25, 2019, 04:16:34 PM
Is there any NaVi fan here though Dendi isn't there anymore?
Dendi should be retired because there is a limit for a human to stay competitive. I follow Dendi since he was in the DTS. It is sad to see that he never recovered from the dream coil :)
Yeah, he has changed his roster and went to different teams and even managed to be with a SEA region team but still it didn't worked out. I feel bad for the legend but I still admire him and like his attitude towards the game. He's a game by passion and I think he'll never stop playing Dota 2 and probably will support NaVi on Shanghai this August.

Dota 2 games can literally stun millions of people!
The community never fail us, passionate Dota 2 gamers will keep on buying battle pass to show support to the tournament and in return, of course items. Once again, the desired prize pool has been reached, millions are coming in to the bank accounts of these talented players who will be at the top.  :P


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 26, 2019, 08:12:23 AM
Is there any NaVi fan here though Dendi isn't there anymore?
Wait, did someone just calling a legend team fans?

Here I'm bruhhhh, Call me navi fans boy ;D
https://i.ibb.co/ymzVrvW/666.png

With my beautiful Navi outfit, I like dendi because he was really humble, friendly & sometimes was funny. We all know he cants follow the patch for dota right now, but dendi still face of dota2.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 26, 2019, 10:43:12 AM
Is there any NaVi fan here though Dendi isn't there anymore?
Wait, did someone just calling a legend team fans?

Here I'm bruhhhh, Call me navi fans boy ;D
https://i.ibb.co/ymzVrvW/666.png

With my beautiful Navi outfit, I like dendi because he was really humble, friendly & sometimes was funny. We all know he cants follow the patch for dota right now, but dendi still face of dota2.
Yep, I just mentioned NaVi and the living legend - Dondoooooo.  ;D
How much you purchased those shirts? and is there an official sign from Dendi? It's not that Dendi can't follow the current patch but it's just he doesn't have a synchronized team anymore to lean along with his play. Remember that Puppey and Kuroky were his teammates before and these two are on the top while him, left behind.  :-\


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 26, 2019, 11:13:57 AM
How much you purchased those shirts? and is there an official sign from Dendi?
I don't know, I buy it at 2015-2016 forget about the price.

Unfornutetly all of them don't have a sign. I was hoping to get the sign went Navi play at GESC Jakarta Minor, but all ticket sold out with a few seconds my browser got freeze went try to purchase it and some people try to sell the ticket with 2-3x from the initial price.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 27, 2019, 07:57:21 AM
How much you purchased those shirts? and is there an official sign from Dendi?
I don't know, I buy it at 2015-2016 forget about the price.

Unfornutetly all of them don't have a sign. I was hoping to get the sign went Navi play at GESC Jakarta Minor, but all ticket sold out with a few seconds my browser got freeze went try to purchase it and some people try to sell the ticket with 2-3x from the initial price.
It's already a long time since you have bought that and AFAIK Dendi is still with the team during that time right? The once in a lifetime meet up with the legend has been gone because of the tickets sold. Anyway, there's still a lot of chance that you can meet again who knows if there will be an upcoming major or minor on Jakarta next season and Dendi will be invited there. I'm sure that you are going to rush to buy ticket and have him sign with your favorite shirts.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: noormcs5 on July 27, 2019, 11:34:13 AM
This is pretty exciting indeed because I really love watching a game of DOTA back then, And now that DOTA 2 has great graphics that most of the gamers loved, So on to the bets I would surely like to see how Royal Never Give Up and Ninja's In Pyjamas will do in this event I have watched their match back then and I am pretty amazed at their tactics and strategy so I am very well known with them, but seeing the need to support my fellow Pinoy I would support a team that has Filipino players on it and hope that they will win, So my pick would be TNC Predator, Mineski, And Fnatic, Although I would really want to go bet for Royal Never Give Up or Ninja's In Pyjamas, This is just to show my support.
Thats right because this games are really have more needed skills that you will know if who are the best players to use especially a strategy that to defeat their opponent. Just like on other games, DOTA is really unpredictable if who will win, but its based on their players if how good they are. Dota is an addicted, especially on my country, but it has a great benefits to the players.

DOTA is a very interesting game and since its difficult to predict the winner, make it even more interesting for the gamblers to bet on it. 2019 Dota 2 World Championship held in Shanghai with the biggest price money.  :P


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: btc78 on July 27, 2019, 12:00:29 PM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.
Since mobile legend takes place as Gadget game but pvp also.people divert to more simplest way of enjoying ,game that they can enjoy anywhere using cellular phones or tablets not like Dota that needs laptop or computers
But still Dota 2 is famous and has many players in cafe and computer shops enjoying this game and I’m proud the 2 Filipinos are playing in Singles that’s enough for me to find opponent for small bets


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 27, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
It's already a long time since you have bought that and AFAIK Dendi is still with the team during that time right? The once in a lifetime meet up with the legend has been gone because of the tickets sold. Anyway, there's still a lot of chance that you can meet again who knows if there will be an upcoming major or minor on Jakarta next season and Dendi will be invited there. I'm sure that you are going to rush to buy ticket and have him sign with your favorite shirts.
The chance was not good, GESC Jakarta Minor probably the last international tournament at Indonesia. Well, my country has ESL Indonesia, but they supported mobiles game, still hope to get a Tournament Internation Dota 2 in Indonesia. If my country got another tournament, I don't know if navi can get invited or secure the slot.

But still Dota 2 is famous and has many players in cafe and computer shops enjoying this game and I’m proud the 2 Filipinos are playing in Singles that’s enough for me to find opponent for small bets
I don't know about other countries, but at here Internet Cafe almost dying because everyone no longer plays at an internet cafe. Most of them already go to real life, changing to a mobile device user.

I also still play Dota since i register at 2013, right now my battle pass lv 172



Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oceat on July 27, 2019, 06:55:38 PM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.
Since mobile legend takes place as Gadget game but pvp also.people divert to more simplest way of enjoying ,game that they can enjoy anywhere using cellular phones or tablets not like Dota that needs laptop or computers
But still Dota 2 is famous and has many players in cafe and computer shops enjoying this game and I’m proud the 2 Filipinos are playing in Singles that’s enough for me to find opponent for small bets
I don't think playing mobile games would decrease the Dota2 players because if you look at the unique players in the last month on their UI you will see that it is still rising in numbers. While looking at the prize pool they have gathered i still can't believe that they have reached on that kind of amount. It seems that every TI tournament the prize pool is getting bigger and bigger that's why i see some people trying/practicing hard just to get in that business. It's more like an NBA picking their best players on a specific team.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on July 27, 2019, 08:11:40 PM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.
Since mobile legend takes place as Gadget game but pvp also.people divert to more simplest way of enjoying ,game that they can enjoy anywhere using cellular phones or tablets not like Dota that needs laptop or computers
But still Dota 2 is famous and has many players in cafe and computer shops enjoying this game and I’m proud the 2 Filipinos are playing in Singles that’s enough for me to find opponent for small bets
I don't think playing mobile games would decrease the Dota2 players because if you look at the unique players in the last month on their UI you will see that it is still rising in numbers. While looking at the prize pool they have gathered i still can't believe that they have reached on that kind of amount. It seems that every TI tournament the prize pool is getting bigger and bigger that's why i see some people trying/practicing hard just to get in that business. It's more like an NBA picking their best players on a specific team.
Why you guys try to compare Mobile Legends with Dota when it comes to popularity?Of course they are different but when it comes to number of players then there no doubt in Dota2.

ML might have lots of users too but when it comes to tournament prize pools then its just a piece of dust.$30M as of this moment I cant imagine how this esports pooled that much.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: livingfree on July 27, 2019, 08:26:10 PM
DOTA is a very interesting game and since its difficult to predict the winner, make it even more interesting for the gamblers to bet on it. 2019 Dota 2 World Championship held in Shanghai with the biggest price money.  :P
Betting is easy but for me what's more interesting is to see on who's going to win the 1st prize. It's going to be millions of dollar again because last year during The International 8, the 1st prize was $11-M.

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2018

Although there's already a total amount for the prize pool but still no details about the prize and cut for each places on Ti9.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 27, 2019, 08:31:03 PM
I have been a big Miracle fan since 2015 since he was with monkey business and then joined the OG team. until now in the liquid team. I really like his game. and now in team liquid become more powerful and promising because of  'Miracle' and 'GH' they are both my favorites player at this moment! I will continue to support Liquid being the 2019 TI winner !!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 28, 2019, 09:52:49 AM
How about let's start placing our bets where our mouth is?



Would you bet for the TI9 winner? The odds are higher, harder to win, but bigger take.

https://i.imgur.com/LEebLgC.png



Or you prefer the regional level. Lower odds, easy to win, but a lesser take.

https://i.imgur.com/jtuC6qQ.png (https://imgur.com/jtuC6qQ)

Or how about both? Let's start betting now and watch and cheer for our team with much intensity!



Screenshots are taken from sportsbet.io.



Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 28, 2019, 10:29:05 PM
It's already a long time since you have bought that and AFAIK Dendi is still with the team during that time right? The once in a lifetime meet up with the legend has been gone because of the tickets sold. Anyway, there's still a lot of chance that you can meet again who knows if there will be an upcoming major or minor on Jakarta next season and Dendi will be invited there. I'm sure that you are going to rush to buy ticket and have him sign with your favorite shirts.
The chance was not good, GESC Jakarta Minor probably the last international tournament at Indonesia. Well, my country has ESL Indonesia, but they supported mobiles game, still hope to get a Tournament Internation Dota 2 in Indonesia. If my country got another tournament, I don't know if navi can get invited or secure the slot.
Okay then that would be up to the organizers, if the last tournament held on your country was amazing and considerable you are lucky to have it again in the future. Moving on..

I have been a big Miracle fan since 2015 since he was with monkey business and then joined the OG team. until now in the liquid team. I really like his game. and now in team liquid become more powerful and promising because of  'Miracle' and 'GH' they are both my favorites player at this moment! I will continue to support Liquid being the 2019 TI winner !!
Monkey business is the first name before OG and Miracle has been doing great and happy to see OG and Miracle's new team got the aegis for the last TI. And only Fly who left OG for EG didn't got the aegis although his team was a former champ too.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on July 29, 2019, 09:15:54 AM
How about let's start placing our bets where our mouth is?
I only betting each match, for the winner of TI9 will betting at the Grand Final.

But unfortunately, I never used a fiat/crypto money for betting Esport like Dota2, Most of my betting using item game, I used VPGame for my betting Esport activity.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: mu_enrico on July 29, 2019, 12:27:48 PM
So my bet simply go to Team Secret
See guys, team secret is the favorite.
Anyway for those who are "broke as a joke" but still want to bet for fun, you could use freebitco.in and start betting with your free satoshis.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on July 29, 2019, 03:48:18 PM
How about let's start placing our bets where our mouth is?
I only betting each match, for the winner of TI9 will betting at the Grand Final.

But unfortunately, I never used a fiat/crypto money for betting Esport like Dota2, Most of my betting using item game, I used VPGame for my betting Esport activity.

Per match betting is the best option to some. It's a lot easier to weigh in the possibilities.

You might want to try using crypto bets this time. Take a look at the bottom of this post. That is, if you are a fan of the teams mentioned.


Yeah, the team has the highest DPC, after all. Let's see! 2019 might be their luckiest year and the aegis will finally fall on their hands.




Anyway, guys, take a look at this. This I saw when I dropped by the site of Nitrogen Sports. All you Team Liquid, OG, and EG fans out there, 1 BTC is not bad at all, is it?

https://i.imgur.com/HjgGvDV.png


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: livingfree on July 29, 2019, 10:01:29 PM
See guys, team secret is the favorite.

Yeah, the team has the highest DPC, after all. Let's see! 2019 might be their luckiest year and the aegis will finally fall on their hands.
Many wants to see Puppey holding the aegis again together with his squad. He's been one of the legend together with NaVi and he's considerably one of the best team captains. He had issue before of not paying his teammates and known as a keyboard warrior.

I have much respect for Puppey and his team has been so consistent during this DPC season. If they win the aegis for this year, they really deserve it.

Anyway, guys, take a look at this. This I saw when I dropped by the site of Nitrogen Sports. All you Team Liquid, OG, and EG fans out there, 1 BTC is not bad at all, is it?

https://i.imgur.com/HjgGvDV.png
Root for any past TI champions and there's going to be a drop, interesting condition.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 01, 2019, 04:30:36 AM
See guys, team secret is the favorite.

Yeah, the team has the highest DPC, after all. Let's see! 2019 might be their luckiest year and the aegis will finally fall on their hands.
Many wants to see Puppey holding the aegis again together with his squad. He's been one of the legend together with NaVi and he's considerably one of the best team captains. He had issue before of not paying his teammates and known as a keyboard warrior.

I have much respect for Puppey and his team has been so consistent during this DPC season. If they win the aegis for this year, they really deserve it.

Maybe the TI9 aegis is really for them. Let's see! My bet is on their team from quarter finals to championship, if they will reach that stage. They haven't been a champion despite their excellent team and individual performances and consistently high DPC. Well, Puppey has already been a champion. He might manage to carry the name Secret with him this time with his leadership. 

Quote
Anyway, guys, take a look at this. This I saw when I dropped by the site of Nitrogen Sports. All you Team Liquid, OG, and EG fans out there, 1 BTC is not bad at all, is it?

https://i.imgur.com/HjgGvDV.png
Root for any past TI champions and there's going to be a drop, interesting condition.

Yeah, the catch here is that there never was a TI team who won the championship twice. Perhaps the condition is there to break the curse.   ;D


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: slashz9 on August 01, 2019, 07:27:42 PM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: dunfida on August 01, 2019, 07:51:56 PM

Would you bet for the TI9 winner? The odds are higher, harder to win, but bigger take.


OG would be a worthy shot.Common for Secret to be in favorites and also i dont know why Vici Gaming is much more favored that with Liquid.?  ???

Or how about both? Let's start betting now and watch and cheer for our team with much intensity!


For int'l chinese- LGD
EU team- Liquid
SEA team- TNC


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 01, 2019, 08:40:40 PM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: slashz9 on August 01, 2019, 09:36:30 PM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.

dota is still popular until now, its looklike stable yes we know ome mobile game get more attention from poeple.
but it doesn't mean dota is not popular again,can be proven from the total annual prize of dota 2.
and the player always stable between 500-700k users/day.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 01, 2019, 10:47:43 PM
Per match betting is the best option to some. It's a lot easier to weigh in the possibilities.

You might want to try using crypto bets this time. Take a look at the bottom of this post. That is, if you are a fan of the teams mentioned.
The reason, because I still play Dota until right now.

Went i betting using an item game and i win my bet, I can withdraw the item and use it at the game.

I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
Probably the dramatic scene between Liquid Roster vs Matubaman will be making "TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYAL" at TI9. I hope we got a match between Liquid vs Chaos Chaotic Club, so this anime betrayal can happen.

The last TI we got "Top 10 Anime Betrayal", went Fly Leave OG to EG.

And they got a match, OG beat EG at that time.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Mahanton on August 01, 2019, 11:17:07 PM
Dota 2 used to be famous a few years ago but I don't know if it is the case anymore now as its popularity has dropped.I remember when people used to play all the time back then and there were many fans watching.It should be a beautiful event this one although I doubt the followers will be numerous as they used to be a few years ago.

dota is still popular until now, its looklike stable yes we know ome mobile game get more attention from poeple.
but it doesn't mean dota is not popular again,can be proven from the total annual prize of dota 2.
and the player always stable between 500-700k users/day.
Who said that Dota 2 is already losing popularity? due to current mobile mmropg games? Its too far imho.
We saw the prizepools and the number of users which means its still on demand.


I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.
Each year is always been unpredictable due to roster changers or shuffle of players but we can really see which team do remain on top tiers.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 02, 2019, 01:51:09 AM
No one has talked about Forward Gaming. This is an interesting news that Newbee acquired their players since the management of Forward Gaming has closed. While the main cast or players of Newbee didn't managed to get a slot through qualifiers, they still got a place on the upcoming The International on their homeland which where this tournament will be held in Shanghai, China.
Source: https://twitter.com/newbeecn/status/1154201903015686144?s=20
Sccc(main newbee mid players) to CCnC(Forward Gaming mid player, now Newbee).


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: lotfiuser on August 02, 2019, 02:06:53 AM
I am a new LOL player which is the same as Dota 2 I try to give dota2 a try and I will watch the tournament, and for winners, I know that Chinese are the best in this kind of game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2)) champions history


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 02, 2019, 03:01:17 AM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.
Each year is always been unpredictable due to roster changers or shuffle of players but we can really see which team do remain on top tiers.
Yes, we can distinguish the top tier teams and the lower tier teams.

But I'd say that the top tier teams should not be confident because if these low tier teams remains consistent like what they've shown during the qualifiers, they can make it to upper bracket.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: YuginKadoya on August 02, 2019, 09:58:49 AM

Luck may not really be the thing in betting Dota 2 games especially because we have already a little inkling about the gaming patterns of each player, their strongest heroes, their typical strategies, and so on. But then again, there are factors that may actually confuse our final decision. The unpredictability of every game therefore remains to a very high extent. We have to take note that there are more than a hundred heroes and teams are always on a hunt for new strategic combinations. Furthermore, new players are added to some teams. The chemistry will be another issue.

It is sometimes lovely how a single stroke of luck could turn the entire game upside down especially at the clutch moments of the game. Imagine a single wrong buy-back and the fate of a game is finally sealed. This is gonna make a good betting esport come August.

Well, That is why luck will sure sure come in handy and like you said that this can is pretty unpredictable especially when players would cause a wrong move a little error can be very devastating for the team and we can never know the upcome of their play, There are condition that needs to be met the teams chemistry and the combination of hero's that they will choose will sure take a portion of luck in it, So even though this is a skill base game luck will surely come in handy.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: livingfree on August 02, 2019, 10:30:37 AM
I am a new LOL player which is the same as Dota 2 I try to give dota2 a try and I will watch the tournament, and for winners, I know that Chinese are the best in this kind of game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2)) champions history
There are a lot of difference playing League of Legends and Dota 2. From what I know, the creators/developers of LOL were map creators and developers for Dota(1) before. And they were hired by garena to develop the game until it became popular.

You can't deny a creep with LOL and tournament prizes on Dota 2 tournaments are way higher than LOL.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: lotfiuser on August 02, 2019, 12:23:53 PM
I am a new LOL player which is the same as Dota 2 I try to give dota2 a try and I will watch the tournament, and for winners, I know that Chinese are the best in this kind of game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_(Dota_2)) champions history
There are a lot of difference playing League of Legends and Dota 2. From what I know, the creators/developers of LOL were map creators and developers for Dota(1) before. And they were hired by garena to develop the game until it became popular.

You can't deny a creep with LOL and tournament prizes on Dota 2 tournaments are way higher than LOL.

The most recent figures show that League of Legends has an active player base of over 80 million monthly players. Or over 27 million players every single day.31 janv. 2019


The Dota 2 page on Steam Charts indicates that in the last 30 days as of June 17, 2018, the game has had an average concurrent player count of almost 485,000, with a peak of 822,000. This number indicates a 2.4 percent gain from May 2018, which had an average of 475,000 players.

Month   Avg. Players   Gain   % Gain   Peak Players
Last 30 Days   461,195.7   -3,591.9   -0.77%   779,160

Dota 2 tournament prize is high only to make people leave lol and play Dota 2 why they don't such prize for csgo? which steam profit more from counter strike
*I'm a new lol player anyway I wanted to play one of this 2 games but they tell me dota2 is a way to hard to learn so I play lol


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 02, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
Dota 2 tournament prize is high only to make people leave lol and play Dota 2 why they don't such prize for csgo? which steam profit more from counter strike
*I'm a new lol player anyway I wanted to play one of this 2 games but they tell me dota2 is a way to hard to learn so I play lol
Dota2 is really worth to play and put your some money, tournament prize or Dota2 is really high because of it's community, it's really popular, one of the best MOBA games, since Dota1.
And also add how Steam/Dota2 market their game so that can attract other people to play, it could be additional reason why the prizes of every tournament on Dota2 are quite huge.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Mahanton on August 02, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.
Each year is always been unpredictable due to roster changers or shuffle of players but we can really see which team do remain on top tiers.
Yes, we can distinguish the top tier teams and the lower tier teams.

But I'd say that the top tier teams should not be confident because if these low tier teams remains consistent like what they've shown during the qualifiers, they can make it to upper bracket.
About the qualifiers you can really see underdogs do really progress or improved too much.Anything is unpredictable but now we are seeing that Secret is the favorite due to their latest major champ win but lets see on how they do perform on TI9.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: slashz9 on August 02, 2019, 06:23:36 PM
Per match betting is the best option to some. It's a lot easier to weigh in the possibilities.

You might want to try using crypto bets this time. Take a look at the bottom of this post. That is, if you are a fan of the teams mentioned.
The reason, because I still play Dota until right now.

Went i betting using an item game and i win my bet, I can withdraw the item and use it at the game.

I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
Probably the dramatic scene between Liquid Roster vs Matubaman will be making "TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYAL" at TI9. I hope we got a match between Liquid vs Chaos Chaotic Club, so this anime betrayal can happen.

The last TI we got "Top 10 Anime Betrayal", went Fly Leave OG to EG.

And they got a match, OG beat EG at that time.


yup, its good if liquid can meet Chaos chaotic on final or semifinal, this will be game matumbaman vs old team :D
but some people predict this year will be for secret, because they just won the tournament before TI.
but for ime its still for Liquid


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: mich on August 02, 2019, 06:28:21 PM
The 5-day competition is only a few weeks away and I just read that the Valve Corporation will pay out more then $31m in prizes  :o
Seems like a good chance for us gamblers to make some BITCOIN on the tournament with it lasting for almost 1 week


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 02, 2019, 07:19:29 PM
yup, its good if liquid can meet Chaos chaotic on final or semifinal, this will be game matumbaman vs old team :D
but some people predict this year will be for secret, because they just won the tournament before TI.
but for ime its still for Liquid
The audience was really like about DRAMA & MEME bruh. You can try see "DOTA WTF TI8 Scene", At there you will get a good meme from OG Bettwen Fly.

If matubaman can meet his old team, that will be a good drama match for TI. Sometimes more fun to watch the drama scene than the prize ~LOL


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 03, 2019, 08:17:06 AM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.
Each year is always been unpredictable due to roster changers or shuffle of players but we can really see which team do remain on top tiers.
Yes, we can distinguish the top tier teams and the lower tier teams.

But I'd say that the top tier teams should not be confident because if these low tier teams remains consistent like what they've shown during the qualifiers, they can make it to upper bracket.
About the qualifiers you can really see underdogs do really progress or improved too much.Anything is unpredictable but now we are seeing that Secret is the favorite due to their latest major champ win but lets see on how they do perform on TI9.
If you'll ask a pro player of Dota 2 on who's the strongest.

They might give a preference of that team but they'll say that there's no longer strong or weak on this game. It's more about the team work and every wrong caught will change the game's result.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: livingfree on August 03, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
The most recent figures show that League of Legends has an active player base of over 80 million monthly players. Or over 27 million players every single day.31 janv. 2019


The Dota 2 page on Steam Charts indicates that in the last 30 days as of June 17, 2018, the game has had an average concurrent player count of almost 485,000, with a peak of 822,000. This number indicates a 2.4 percent gain from May 2018, which had an average of 475,000 players.

Month   Avg. Players   Gain   % Gain   Peak Players
Last 30 Days   461,195.7   -3,591.9   -0.77%   779,160

Dota 2 tournament prize is high only to make people leave lol and play Dota 2 why they don't such prize for csgo? which steam profit more from counter strike
*I'm a new lol player anyway I wanted to play one of this 2 games but they tell me dota2 is a way to hard to learn so I play lol
I just played yesterday and the number of active users are around 600k all over the world. Dota 2 tournaments aren't dedicated to make other players leave their games.

If you still don't understand on how the prize pool increases, it's because of the combined sales of dota 2 in-game items (battle pass) which cuts 5% each sale to contribute to the pool while Valve has around a guarantee of $2M contribution to the pool.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 03, 2019, 01:08:31 PM
If you still don't understand on how the prize pool increases, it's because of the combined sales of dota 2 in-game items (battle pass) which cuts 5% each sale to contribute to the pool while Valve has around a guarantee of $2M contribution to the pool.
Here some list reason, why the prize pool increase from players dota aspect.
  • Bug Bundle LV 120
    At the release Bundle LV 120, You can get so many immortal + LVL BP with a cheap price. But you can only buy once for each account unfornutetly there have some bug went the player can buy multiple bundles. Because of that, the prize raised more than $1M only need 24 hours, valve also gives a statement about these and make some change rules.
  • Invoker Persona
  • Arcana ES
  • Immortal AXE
  • etc
I still chasing my level to get Invoker Persona, Right now my level BP 179. I don't know, can i reach 305 level BP to get that.

Anyway, Dota can be an investment option for some people. You can see the value of DC Hook, The first time i play dota the price was 110$ and right now already up more than 700$. The good thing selling Dota/CSGO item more easily than other game, because at Dota/CSGO have some collector.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: livingfree on August 05, 2019, 10:46:09 PM
If you still don't understand on how the prize pool increases, it's because of the combined sales of dota 2 in-game items (battle pass) which cuts 5% each sale to contribute to the pool while Valve has around a guarantee of $2M contribution to the pool.
Here some list reason, why the prize pool increase from players dota aspect.
  • Bug Bundle LV 120
    At the release Bundle LV 120, You can get so many immortal + LVL BP with a cheap price. But you can only buy once for each account unfornutetly there have some bug went the player can buy multiple bundles. Because of that, the prize raised more than $1M only need 24 hours, valve also gives a statement about these and make some change rules.
  • Invoker Persona
  • Arcana ES
  • Immortal AXE
  • etc
I still chasing my level to get Invoker Persona, Right now my level BP 179. I don't know, can i reach 305 level BP to get that.
Those items sure are on hype and making a good cut for the prize pool. We have few more days before the group stage and the total prize has increased to $31,650,999 USD, see the reference on liquipedia. (https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019)

Anyway, Dota can be an investment option for some people. You can see the value of DC Hook, The first time i play dota the price was 110$ and right now already up more than 700$. The good thing selling Dota/CSGO item more easily than other game, because at Dota/CSGO have some collector.
Yes, those in game items are precious to those who are collecting and enjoys using it while playing. Many items have appreciated and sad to say that I didn't have those DC hooks anymore, I've lost it before on D2L.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Mahanton on August 06, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.
Each year is always been unpredictable due to roster changers or shuffle of players but we can really see which team do remain on top tiers.
Yes, we can distinguish the top tier teams and the lower tier teams.

But I'd say that the top tier teams should not be confident because if these low tier teams remains consistent like what they've shown during the qualifiers, they can make it to upper bracket.
About the qualifiers you can really see underdogs do really progress or improved too much.Anything is unpredictable but now we are seeing that Secret is the favorite due to their latest major champ win but lets see on how they do perform on TI9.
If you'll ask a pro player of Dota 2 on who's the strongest.

They might give a preference of that team but they'll say that there's no longer strong or weak on this game. It's more about the team work and every wrong caught will change the game's result.
As a pro player and had been asked on whose the strongest then the thing on their mind usually would really thought of themselves or their team.
Talking about game results,each situation can make a comeback which cant really be expected.Critical decisions can be seen or simply mistakes can really
lead to devastation on the entire team thats why you should really be careful.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 06, 2019, 06:41:30 PM
As the date of the tournament approaches, I'm watching for the prize distribution on how much it's going to be mainly for the 1st place / champion.
This is still related to the tournament, so how much you think is the share for the champion out of the $31M prize pool? be it a percentage or specific amount.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 06, 2019, 07:26:33 PM
As the date of the tournament approaches, I'm watching for the prize distribution on how much it's going to be mainly for the 1st place / champion.
This is still related to the tournament, so how much you think is the share for the champion out of the $31M prize pool? be it a percentage or specific amount.
Checked out 2018 TI prize pool allocated on each team http://dota2.prizetrac.kr/international2018  and since the battle pass sale havent cut out yet then there's still

no official or fixed amount all in all.So calculating for the prize allocation isnt possible yet but we would able to know it soon.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 07, 2019, 05:57:49 AM
I think this year will be the year for team liquid we know they just change roll of their player, matumbaman out and w33 in.
but its not problem at all, kuroky can combine their game, that made him a great captain.
They took the aegis last 2017 so I really don't think that this year is for them. Yes, they've got a lot of experiences but they have been inconsistent throughout the minors and majors.

All teams are unpredictable and I can say that each of them is full of surprises but I'd wanted to see a team that didn't took it before.
Each year is always been unpredictable due to roster changers or shuffle of players but we can really see which team do remain on top tiers.
Yes, we can distinguish the top tier teams and the lower tier teams.

But I'd say that the top tier teams should not be confident because if these low tier teams remains consistent like what they've shown during the qualifiers, they can make it to upper bracket.
About the qualifiers you can really see underdogs do really progress or improved too much.Anything is unpredictable but now we are seeing that Secret is the favorite due to their latest major champ win but lets see on how they do perform on TI9.
If you'll ask a pro player of Dota 2 on who's the strongest.

They might give a preference of that team but they'll say that there's no longer strong or weak on this game. It's more about the team work and every wrong caught will change the game's result.

the thing about Dota 2 if you have watched some of the tournaments is that apart from the team work and all that, the strategies these teams use is one of the key factors in their winning. sometimes we see some unknown Chinese team come along and use some crazy strategy that beats every team out there! i remember back in Dota 1 (Warcraft before Valve took over) there was a team that picked the craziest heros that didn't even match each other and all went to one lane at the bottom! the other team (the experts of that time) were beaten in about 10 minutes because they couldn't fight that combo that rushed their lane from first second!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: passwordnow on August 09, 2019, 06:49:54 AM
Guys one of the most awaited update has now come. We have 6 days left for the group stage matches and the prize pool has been distributed already. A whopping $14.6M for the 1st place of this tournament. See all the prize differences each place of liquipedia[1].
[1] https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 09, 2019, 09:33:44 AM
Guys one of the most awaited update has now come. We have 6 days left for the group stage matches and the prize pool has been distributed already. A whopping $14.6M for the 1st place of this tournament. See all the prize differences each place of liquipedia[1].
[1] https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019

Thanks for the update, buddy! I haven't checked liquipedia for a few days now.

Anyway, the matches amounting to millions of US Dollar are getting nearer. Can't wait to watch them. The intensity of the anticipation is rising. This is going to be another round of jaw-dropping TI games, stunning clashes, dumbfounding combos, and probably unbelievable come-backs.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 09, 2019, 09:47:33 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBa7rGHUwAAMAHL?format=jpg&name=small
The prize pool is really huge :o, I didn't expect that the prize pool will reach this high, I thought The International 2018 will be higher for all-time.

The upcoming games will be really hype because of the prize pool too. Lot of new gameplays will happen and a lot of people will get rekt in gambling too  :D. It is really much better if we will go to bet on different games once they are on the main stage already? Because of I afraid of some experimental games especially those high tier teams.
But at the start of the games on The International 2019 is good to play some YOLO bet, which I will bet on the higher odds but maybe for a small bet only.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 09, 2019, 11:22:18 AM
the thing about Dota 2 if you have watched some of the tournaments is that apart from the team work and all that, the strategies these teams use is one of the key factors in their winning. sometimes we see some unknown Chinese team come along and use some crazy strategy that beats every team out there! i remember back in Dota 1 (Warcraft before Valve took over) there was a team that picked the craziest heros that didn't even match each other and all went to one lane at the bottom! the other team (the experts of that time) were beaten in about 10 minutes because they couldn't fight that combo that rushed their lane from first second!
I think I remember that strategy and my friends and I copied that strategy with pub games.

I'm interested with the mentality and picking strategy of Chinese teams. They really are crazy and genius at the same time on how they play but Puppey is still one of the best team captain and picker.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: asu on August 09, 2019, 07:45:39 PM
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That’s not a joke price pool to be honest, might be a life changing, who knows. I’ll give my shot for TNC Predator, well full support to our country and Kuku that best of the best. Dota 2 brings back memories of my High School life.

Just have one more question. Hopefully there’s a betting sites where we can place are bets. Can’t see it sportsbet?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Mahanton on August 09, 2019, 08:05:13 PM
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That’s not a joke price pool to be honest, might be a life changing, who knows. I’ll give my shot for TNC Predator, well full support to our country and Kuku that best of the best. Dota 2 brings back memories of my High School life.

Just have one more question. Hopefully there’s a betting sites where we can place are bets. Can’t see it sportsbet?

SEA teams are good but weren't good enough to get the top spot.OG,VP,LGD isn't really that easy to beat up but including on top 3 or top 5 isn't that bad.
Price pool is too big this year and lets see if this would happen even more on next year TI20.
About on the betting you can actually see these lines on most popular bookies, sportsbet,nitrogen.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 09, 2019, 10:03:32 PM
The prize pool is really huge :o, I didn't expect that the prize pool will reach this high, I thought The International 2018 will be higher for all-time.
Don't forget about the "TAX Winner" Bruh.

Prize Pool DOTA 2 Always increase each year, Also the value of item sometimes increase went valve release a new immortal went TI it's coming.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 09, 2019, 10:11:24 PM
The prize pool is really huge :o, I didn't expect that the prize pool will reach this high, I thought The International 2018 will be higher for all-time.
Don't forget about the "TAX Winner" Bruh.

Prize Pool DOTA 2 Always increase each year, Also the value of item sometimes increase went valve release a new immortal went TI it's coming.
Not only on the items but also on its Battle pass price.From last years The international

2018
source: https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/the-international-2018-battle-pass-1202804348/
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The Battle Pass costs $9.99 at Level 1. People who want to avoid the grind can start at Level 75 for $36.99, or they can buy additional levels: 5 levels for $2.49, 11 levels for $4.99, or 24 levels for $9.99.

2019
source: https://www.metabomb.net/dota2/gameplay-guides/dota-2-the-international-2019-battle-pass-guide
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The Standard Battle Pass costs $9.99 and is the no-frills version which most which will opt for.
The Level 50 version costs $29.35, includes the standard Battle Pass and also bumps you up 50 tiers .
The Level 100 version costs $44.99, includes the standard Battle Pass and means you'll start off at tier 100.



Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 10, 2019, 06:19:54 AM
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Just have one more question. Hopefully there’s a betting sites where we can place are bets. Can’t see it sportsbet?
I'm 100% sure that sportsbet.io will cater the, The International 2019.
As of now you can't still see the list of games maybe Valve or organizer of The International 2019 has not yet finalized the upcoming games or groups for every team who are qualified. Maybe a two or one day before they can release the group of every team, let's hope for that. I'm excited to bet in Sportsbet.io, funds are ready!  :D


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: passwordnow on August 10, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
Guys one of the most awaited update has now come. We have 6 days left for the group stage matches and the prize pool has been distributed already. A whopping $14.6M for the 1st place of this tournament. See all the prize differences each place of liquipedia[1].
[1] https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019

Thanks for the update, buddy! I haven't checked liquipedia for a few days now.

Anyway, the matches amounting to millions of US Dollar are getting nearer. Can't wait to watch them. The intensity of the anticipation is rising. This is going to be another round of jaw-dropping TI games, stunning clashes, dumbfounding combos, and probably unbelievable come-backs.
Welcome bud.
The hype for this torunament is real. The prizes are getting higher and higher each year. The lowest place a team can get is around $80k and that's still a good amount for the both team that will get eliminated quickly.
This tournament is for real and it will definitely change the lives of those who will get a higher place on this tournament.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: 13abyknight on August 10, 2019, 09:44:29 PM
Since almost everybody here is talking about the prize money, let's also talk about the top teams contending for the same.

It doesn't come as a surprise that Chinese teams like PSG.LGD and VG will be favoured to win the tournament itself just because of the location, as they come in as fan favourites.

While the European teams have shown great performances across the DPC, Team Secret is going to be a strong contender for top 6 (although they've consistently underperformed at TI) along with Liquid who showed a promising major run with w33. Everyone will have an eye on VP who again have been consistent performers throughout the season but are known to fall off during TI. Also, defending champs OG also have a good shot of making it big

Coming to NA, the only talking prospect here is obviously EG who are known for ups and downs and sudden peeks is the season. Maybe RTZ can really break the curse this time and if they end up 3rd, disband inc.

When it comes to SEA teams, TNC especially after getting Heen as coach, has showed a lot of promise with consistent top finishes at multiple majors. Fnatic and Mineski are also teams to watch out for with replacements in their carry players/positions.

All in all, this is going to be one hell of a TI and I'm highly looking forward to it.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 11, 2019, 11:09:41 AM
It doesn't come as a surprise that Chinese teams like PSG.LGD and VG will be favoured to win the tournament itself just because of the location, as they come in as fan favourites.
Tournament venue is not too much exciting or hype because of the fans who are watching the games, there are lot of minor tournaments happened in China and feedbacks of some players or people observed on the venue, no hype on the fans or boring crowd.
But for sure, they will totally support their fellow countrymen and let's hope for a better gameplays and crowds too.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 11, 2019, 05:34:25 PM
But for sure, they will totally support their fellow countrymen and let's hope for a better gameplays and crowds too.
China fans boys always over pride for their team.

You can see at OG VS PSG.LGD went PSG.LGD only need 1 more game to take the aegis. The crowd was screaming together to OG "OG Go Home", went OG can take back the momentum a lot of their fans boy was crying because their team was lose.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: passwordnow on August 11, 2019, 10:22:34 PM
But for sure, they will totally support their fellow countrymen and let's hope for a better gameplays and crowds too.
China fans boys always over pride for their team.
Guys visit the page of Icefrog on facebook named Wykhrm Reddy. And see the two time TI hopefuls and there's no Chinese that was included to the photo. 3 days left and the group stage will be showed.
If OG will become consistent just like last year during the group stage, big chance again to get back to finals.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 12, 2019, 10:59:59 AM
As the date of the tournament approaches, I'm watching for the prize distribution on how much it's going to be mainly for the 1st place / champion.
This is still related to the tournament, so how much you think is the share for the champion out of the $31M prize pool? be it a percentage or specific amount.
Checked out 2018 TI prize pool allocated on each team http://dota2.prizetrac.kr/international2018  and since the battle pass sale havent cut out yet then there's still

no official or fixed amount all in all.So calculating for the prize allocation isnt possible yet but we would able to know it soon.
Yeah that was from last year and we're already done with that tournament and prize pool share. I'm asking for the latest tournament for this year which is the '19.

Btw, we already have the idea on how much the share would be.

I've watched the amazing and touching documentary made for OG's TI8 victory, search it on red bull's youtube channel.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 12, 2019, 12:25:07 PM
Guys visit the page of Icefrog on facebook named Wykhrm Reddy.
Really? Is Wykhrm Reddy and Icefrog are the same person? Or are you joking? :D

Quote
If OG will become consistent just like last year during the group stage, big chance again to get back to finals.
OG still got the high chance for winning, but I am a little bit worried on n0tail since he got sick recently, maybe he missed a lot of practice on their boot camps before The International 2019, and he is the captain of OG. Let's see if the team really got affected when Notail got sick.

Btw, let's hope that some of the champion teams on the recent The International should be in separate groups so the tournament game's bracket is much exciting.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: SyGambler on August 13, 2019, 02:21:03 AM
just noticed the thread , I'm still new to Esports but subscribed to different betting sources till I just start to know what's going lol
here is the list of my outright bets that I was recommended to make early today , prices all are gone tho but maybe they go up again today or tomorrow

https://i.imgur.com/nxUq7r7.png

crazy value for Clinkz there with X32.26 now odds dropped a lot but that would be a 0.27 BTC win for me if it hits  :D

sadly limits weren't great so I wasn't able to bet more in all of these plays , anybody knows a good site for such outrights ?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: jakoylantern on August 13, 2019, 01:13:44 PM
Guys visit the page of Icefrog on facebook named Wykhrm Reddy.
Really? Is Wykhrm Reddy and Icefrog are the same person? Or are you joking? :D

Quote
If OG will become consistent just like last year during the group stage, big chance again to get back to finals.
OG still got the high chance for winning, but I am a little bit worried on n0tail since he got sick recently, maybe he missed a lot of practice on their boot camps before The International 2019, and he is the captain of OG. Let's see if the team really got affected when Notail got sick.

Btw, let's hope that some of the champion teams on the recent The International should be in separate groups so the tournament game's bracket is much exciting.
Yes, I also think the same way because boot camps/ practice and creating new technique is essential moves is very important to TI. But I'm sure that Notail can quickly adapt what he missed. Team OG is a very great team, especially that Ana is back and I'm rooting for more Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb! Moves.  

That's why the group stage is very tractable to the top teams. I'm so excited now to know who will be the next TI Champ. :)



Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: dothebeats on August 13, 2019, 04:07:13 PM
just noticed the thread , I'm still new to Esports but subscribed to different betting sources till I just start to know what's going lol
here is the list of my outright bets that I was recommended to make early today , prices all are gone tho but maybe they go up again today or tomorrow

https://i.imgur.com/nxUq7r7.png

crazy value for Clinkz there with X32.26 now odds dropped a lot but that would be a 0.27 BTC win for me if it hits  :D

sadly limits weren't great so I wasn't able to bet more in all of these plays , anybody knows a good site for such outrights ?

Clinkz is an insanely good hero to pick for kill averages, knowing how well they buffed his skills especially with the Aghanim's upgrade. A good one would also be Ember Spirit though most teams usually play the said hero on the safe side focusing more on net worth advantage rather than capitalizing his early game aggression for kills. As for outrights, I don't know much about any other sites since I'm focused more on item betting for resale rather than crypto/money betting. Also, what site are you using to bet on those?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 13, 2019, 08:08:52 PM
just noticed the thread , I'm still new to Esports but subscribed to different betting sources till I just start to know what's going lol
here is the list of my outright bets that I was recommended to make early today , prices all are gone tho but maybe they go up again today or tomorrow

crazy value for Clinkz there with X32.26 now odds dropped a lot but that would be a 0.27 BTC win for me if it hits  :D

sadly limits weren't great so I wasn't able to bet more in all of these plays , anybody knows a good site for such outrights ?

Clinkz is an insanely good hero to pick for kill averages, knowing how well they buffed his skills especially with the Aghanim's upgrade. A good one would also be Ember Spirit though most teams usually play the said hero on the safe side focusing more on net worth advantage rather than capitalizing his early game aggression for kills. As for outrights, I don't know much about any other sites since I'm focused more on item betting for resale rather than crypto/money betting. Also, what site are you using to bet on those?
Clinkz is indeed a good pick but lets see if this one will be included on the meta. Aghs upgrade on this one would really be good on teamfight yet it do spawns soldier when it do comes out after a skeleton walk + having that strafe it can secure out fast kills.So this one is a good choice. @dotthebeats, why not try loot.bet?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: SyGambler on August 14, 2019, 01:04:18 AM

Clinkz is an insanely good hero to pick for kill averages, knowing how well they buffed his skills especially with the Aghanim's upgrade. A good one would also be Ember Spirit though most teams usually play the said hero on the safe side focusing more on net worth advantage rather than capitalizing his early game aggression for kills. As for outrights, I don't know much about any other sites since I'm focused more on item betting for resale rather than crypto/money betting. Also, what site are you using to bet on those?

yeah indeed , it's not a sure winner but definitely a value pick with 32.26 price
the source I follow said that he thinks the probability of clinkz  winning that bet is around 20% so still a longshot but seems insane value with that price
now odds dropped to around 7


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 14, 2019, 01:37:12 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB5LQPBU4AAQC-t?format=jpg&name=medium (https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/1161448505585487872)

The International 2019 Groups.
What do you think?

The Group A is quite difficult, Team Liquid, 2017 The International Champion and Team Secret are there,  the Dota Pro Circuit 2018-2019 Top 1.
And also, two Philippines based team are in Group A with some higher tier teams.

Group B much exciting to me, but our recent The International 2018 is here the OG. Being included in Group B for OG will make them safe for another Championship for this The International? Exciting.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 14, 2019, 04:07:13 PM

The International 2019 Groups.
What do you think?

The Group A is quite difficult, Team Liquid, 2017 The International Champion and Team Secret are there,  the Dota Pro Circuit 2018-2019 Top 1.
And also, two Philippines based team are in Group A with some higher tier teams.

Group B much exciting to me, but our recent The International 2018 is here the OG. Being included in Group B for OG will make them safe for another Championship for this The International? Exciting.
That group A is a hell for those Asean teams like TNC and Mineski.Imagine on having Secret,Liquid,LGD and Newbee? They cant beat up those teams but lets see on how they would give a fight.

For Group B,OG and EG is there and the rest isnt really that a threat.I'll seeing on how Navi would perform this TI 9 yet it didnt able to get in on last year international and also in previous years 2018,2017...


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 14, 2019, 05:10:53 PM
Alright the group stage is now out, this is exciting. Few more hours and let's get it on.

I don't want to assume that 'this team can't win'. This is Dota 2 and everything can happen. Both group stage are exciting, I'm more tuning in for the underdogs.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 15, 2019, 02:09:40 AM
Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.

Edit: Sweet victory for TNC! Game 1 was an easy game. Game 2 was a triumphant come-back.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: crwth on August 15, 2019, 04:40:53 AM
Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.
You are right! Keen has the lead with the net worth because of alche but the victor is still TNC. Congrats to them.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 15, 2019, 04:42:58 AM
Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.
You are right! Keen has the lead with the net worth because of alche but the victor is still TNC. Congrats to them.

The wiser moves of TNC changed the entire game. Keen's lead which started so early was not maximized.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on August 15, 2019, 01:28:40 PM
Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.

Edit: Sweet victory for TNC! Game 1 was an easy game. Game 2 was a triumphant come-back.

Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 15, 2019, 06:14:43 PM
Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.
TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 16, 2019, 02:05:14 AM
Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.
TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

Which made me puzzled. I really don't understand why TNC cannot beat Mineski. Mineski is really no match for TNC if you do all the technical analyses of their previous games. Mineski gaming is almost equivalent to garbage gaming and yet TNC always succumb to them. TNC can make glorious come-backs just what they did yesterday against Keen and yet they seem helpless against Mineski. Mineski is like their kryptonite. 


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 16, 2019, 07:11:49 AM
Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.
TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

Which made me puzzled. I really don't understand why TNC cannot beat Mineski. Mineski is really no match for TNC if you do all the technical analyses of their previous games. Mineski gaming is almost equivalent to garbage gaming and yet TNC always succumb to them. TNC can make glorious come-backs just what they did yesterday against Keen and yet they seem helpless against Mineski. Mineski is like their kryptonite. 
I wouldn't say that Mineski's play style is garbage, they will not make it to the International if they are like that.

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: NavI_027 on August 16, 2019, 07:28:16 AM
But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.
For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ;D?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 16, 2019, 07:34:46 AM
I can't even believe that TNC is on top of group A standing, while on the Group B, the EG is really bleeding. What happened to the EG? Sleeping Dragon? I am still waiting for EG will be the top seeder on the Group B of the tournament.

And good news because most of the ASIAN teams are playing good, especially the TNC Predators and Mineski on Group A while Fnatic on Group B. I am rooting for them, especially on Mineski and TNC since in their group, high tier teams are their opponents. I'm so excited about the main stage games soon.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 16, 2019, 07:41:09 AM
But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.
For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ;D?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).
You misunderstood what I've said about they are the weakness of TNC. What I mean to say that they are used to lose against Mineski most of the time.

And even before when there's still Team Faceless, they can't win against that team.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 16, 2019, 11:44:34 AM
I can't even believe that TNC is on top of group A standing, while on the Group B, the EG is really bleeding. What happened to the EG? Sleeping Dragon? I am still waiting for EG will be the top seeder on the Group B of the tournament.

And good news because most of the ASIAN teams are playing good, especially the TNC Predators and Mineski on Group A while Fnatic on Group B. I am rooting for them, especially on Mineski and TNC since in their group, high tier teams are their opponents. I'm so excited about the main stage games soon.

Mineski has already got past TNC in the group A standing, currently at the 3rd rank. TNC is already at the 4th rank. Team Secret is still the number one, the only team that remains to be undefeated until now. I still am confused with the way Mineski won and lost their games. It seems to me that their games adjust to their opponents, getting better against better teams and stooping down low when up against not so good ones.

EG is not the only team with much expectations that turned out to be a poor performer. Team Liquid is also performing rather bad. At least as far as the first couple of days of the tournament is concerned.  OG and Vici are gonna be battling against the top spot in group B.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 16, 2019, 02:48:19 PM
EG is not the only team with much expectations that turned out to be a poor performer. Team Liquid is also performing rather bad. At least as far as the first couple of days of the tournament is concerned.  OG and Vici are gonna be battling against the top spot in group B.
Honestly, I've expected that Keen Gaming will be able to par with the high tier teams but this TI is full of surprises.

OG is consistent, Secret is consistent and a surprise from NaVi.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: MMysterious on August 16, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.
For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ;D?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

People saying TNC gave that win to Mineski are either ignorants or just plainly casuals. Solid TNC and Mineski fans are always hostile to each other. Rumors is that even their team managements and players are trading trash talks when outside the camera and off the public. But still, there is no point in giving that game. It was just TNCs second game and Mineskis first, so no point that win keeps Mineski alive.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 17, 2019, 02:36:36 AM
But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.
For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ;D?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

People saying TNC gave that win to Mineski are either ignorants or just plainly casuals. Solid TNC and Mineski fans are always hostile to each other. Rumors is that even their team managements and players are trading trash talks when outside the camera and off the public. But still, there is no point in giving that game. It was just TNCs second game and Mineskis first, so no point that win keeps Mineski alive.
Really? there are fans who said that TNC gave that win to Mski? how it can be? no doubt that Mineski has been a good team and how many times did they went to TI? About the trashtalks, I don't think that they are too unprofessional for that unless it's just a friendly trashtalk.

Accept it guys that whether they win or lose, accept defeat and victory. This is The International and every team is doing their best to get on the upper bracket seed to secure higher prize pot for their places.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 17, 2019, 02:52:29 AM
Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.
TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

Which made me puzzled. I really don't understand why TNC cannot beat Mineski. Mineski is really no match for TNC if you do all the technical analyses of their previous games. Mineski gaming is almost equivalent to garbage gaming and yet TNC always succumb to them. TNC can make glorious come-backs just what they did yesterday against Keen and yet they seem helpless against Mineski. Mineski is like their kryptonite. 

Don't say that, it is just that Mineski is also SEA team, that is why they know how TNC would do their strats.

Another thing is that Mineski is used to long game time, and they are usually making those comeback plays that would really surprise a lot of people. TNC is doing fine, Mineski is doing great but for me, Team Liquid is not that great this season and I don't know what is happening. w33 is a great player but it seems that it has the weak side and the strong side to them, do you think Matu is better than w33?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 17, 2019, 08:56:29 AM
But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.
For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ;D?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

People saying TNC gave that win to Mineski are either ignorants or just plainly casuals. Solid TNC and Mineski fans are always hostile to each other. Rumors is that even their team managements and players are trading trash talks when outside the camera and off the public. But still, there is no point in giving that game. It was just TNCs second game and Mineskis first, so no point that win keeps Mineski alive.
Really? there are fans who said that TNC gave that win to Mski? how it can be? no doubt that Mineski has been a good team and how many times did they went to TI? About the trashtalks, I don't think that they are too unprofessional for that unless it's just a friendly trashtalk.

Accept it guys that whether they win or lose, accept defeat and victory. This is The International and every team is doing their best to get on the upper bracket seed to secure higher prize pot for their places.

Some TNC fans just couldn't accept the fact that they are given a 2-0 match by Mineski. Well, I don't think every single TNC fan is against Mineski. I believe that most of TNC's fans are also fans of Mineski, and even Fnatic.  ;D Rumors of that game-selling are nothing but products of fans who couldn't make something rational from game results.

Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.  :'(   


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 17, 2019, 09:56:56 AM
Some TNC fans just couldn't accept the fact that they are given a 2-0 match by Mineski. Well, I don't think every single TNC fan is against Mineski. I believe that most of TNC's fans are also fans of Mineski, and even Fnatic.  ;D Rumors of that game-selling are nothing but products of fans who couldn't make something rational from game results.

Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.  :'(   
People from the SEA region are supporting the teams that originated from the SEA. But you can't blame those haters that can accept that fact that they've lost against Mineski.

However the good news is that both teams beat the most favorite team in the tourney, Secret.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 17, 2019, 10:34:57 AM
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Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.  Cry 
There are a lot of people who won on those matches, especially on the Team Secret Vs. TNC Predators, since the odds are quite huge for the opponent of Team Secret.
In our country, some bettors on e-sports, especially on Dota2, they called it "YOLO", once the odds are higher and they bet on the team that has high returns  :D
My hands are already itchy to bet, but still, I am waiting for the main stage before to bet to analyze the team based on their previous games. Group Stage has really a lot of ups and downs, unpredictable and unbelievable results.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 17, 2019, 11:04:52 AM
My hands are already itchy to bet, but still, I am waiting for the main stage before to bet to analyze the team based on their previous games. Group Stage has really a lot of ups and downs, unpredictable and unbelievable results.
Some of my friends are also waiting for the main stage because hype is larger than what we have right now. I haven't watch the other games since I've focused to some teams during this group stages.

I have some teams that I've been eyeing to bet but their performance were poor during this group stage matches. Those teams that I'm following were Chaos E-sports club since there's Matumbaman and I thought that they will be notable but they were not.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: 13abyknight on August 17, 2019, 03:22:47 PM
Some TNC fans just couldn't accept the fact that they are given a 2-0 match by Mineski. Well, I don't think every single TNC fan is against Mineski. I believe that most of TNC's fans are also fans of Mineski, and even Fnatic.  ;D Rumors of that game-selling are nothing but products of fans who couldn't make something rational from game results.

Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.  :'(   
However the good news is that both teams beat the most favorite team in the tourney, Secret.

This caught me off guard so hard that I had to rub my eyes in awe. Secret was looking so dominant on the first day and proceeded to start day two with a clean 2-0. Mineski came in really strong with the draft and gave Moon some of his comfy heroes like Tiny which he went absolutely bonkers on. Massive win for them to keep their upper bracket dreams alive.

Meanwhile TNC on the other hand have looked so good against the top teams that you can't put them out of contention for a place in the upper bracket. It's either Gabbi or Armel stepping up with stellar carry performances and Kuku/Tims having limelight moments which is really proving to be crucial for the wins they have managed to rack up so far.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Mahanton on August 17, 2019, 04:33:28 PM
Some TNC fans just couldn't accept the fact that they are given a 2-0 match by Mineski. Well, I don't think every single TNC fan is against Mineski. I believe that most of TNC's fans are also fans of Mineski, and even Fnatic.  ;D Rumors of that game-selling are nothing but products of fans who couldn't make something rational from game results.

Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.  :'(   
However the good news is that both teams beat the most favorite team in the tourney, Secret.

This caught me off guard so hard that I had to rub my eyes in awe. Secret was looking so dominant on the first day and proceeded to start day two with a clean 2-0. Mineski came in really strong with the draft and gave Moon some of his comfy heroes like Tiny which he went absolutely bonkers on. Massive win for them to keep their upper bracket dreams alive.

Meanwhile TNC on the other hand have looked so good against the top teams that you can't put them out of contention for a place in the upper bracket. It's either Gabbi or Armel stepping up with stellar carry performances and Kuku/Tims having limelight moments which is really proving to be crucial for the wins they have managed to rack up so far.
What impresses me with TNC team is that they are the only ones who break the winning streak of Team secret of 9 wins.They do able to stop it even the game is already one sided but TNC do knows how to sustain and can comeback even on deficit.They do improve a lot when Gabbi is added on the team.You can see plays which haven't seen on last years.They can able to contend top tier teams now.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on August 17, 2019, 10:34:31 PM
Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D

http://i65.tinypic.com/2z9gke9.png

Source: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 17, 2019, 11:40:39 PM
Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D

http://i65.tinypic.com/2z9gke9.png

Source: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019

I think is expected.

Chaos may have great players but they are just a new team and it is like a desperation to win an built their own team, it won't happen since teams in TI trained their way in. Another thing that I am surprised is that Liquid is below TNC, I am not expecting that, I am expecting more to them especially that w33 is their midlane.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on August 18, 2019, 12:20:35 AM
Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D
Source: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019

I think is expected.

Chaos may have great players but they are just a new team and it is like a desperation to win an built their own team, it won't happen since teams in TI trained their way in. Another thing that I am surprised is that Liquid is below TNC, I am not expecting that, I am expecting more to them especially that w33 is their midlane.
Matumbaman is on Chaos but they do still failed down.TNC picks are most likely good for long game and to their last game they choke out in late game.
They were pretty aggressive on early phase but the momentum had been cut down when other team carry already got their gears.
Me too, I didn't expect on how they do perform this groupstage but we haven't still see yet if teams are just hiding their own drafts saved up for the Finals.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 18, 2019, 12:46:11 AM
Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D
Source: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019

I think is expected.

Chaos may have great players but they are just a new team and it is like a desperation to win an built their own team, it won't happen since teams in TI trained their way in. Another thing that I am surprised is that Liquid is below TNC, I am not expecting that, I am expecting more to them especially that w33 is their midlane.
Matumbaman is on Chaos but they do still failed down.TNC picks are most likely good for long game and to their last game they choke out in late game.
They were pretty aggressive on early phase but the momentum had been cut down when other team carry already got their gears.
Me too, I didn't expect on how they do perform this groupstage but we haven't still see yet if teams are just hiding their own drafts saved up for the Finals.

That is why I said, it is like a desperation, because Matu is there.

In terms of TNC, it is a great team though there are times that they engage in wrong time. They are an aggressive team so that is inevitable. I can say that they are still hiding an ace to their sleeves especially Team Secret. Their match, their picks against LGD clearly states they are hiding something.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: NavI_027 on August 18, 2019, 01:24:52 AM
Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D
Yeah! I overheard it when I was watching yesterday during their live game against TNC. Whether win or lose, they'll become last on the standing thus getting eliminated.
Another thing that I am surprised is that Liquid is below TNC, I am not expecting that, I am expecting more to them especially that w33 is their midlane.
Also, what I'm not expecting is that TNC is below of Mineski :o. That team of ours is always underestimated but I guess we should now start to change our impression to them because they are proving that they are not a cheap competitor (hello, they're on the upper bracket lol).


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 18, 2019, 03:16:18 AM
Also, what I'm not expecting is that TNC is below of Mineski :o. That team of ours is always underestimated but I guess we should now start to change our impression to them because they are proving that they are not a cheap competitor (hello, they're on the upper bracket lol).

It is still the start of the group stages, so I am not really surprised.

Some teams might be holding themselves and just having a plan whether they wanted to be in the upper bracket or in the lower bracket, we still don't know what they're plan is. Also, maybe that is the reason why Liquid, is in the lower bracket. They have their own reasons and we will be seeing their real plays or strats in the group stages.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: RivAngE on August 18, 2019, 07:57:23 AM
Fnatics are my long lasting favorites! ...since they won the 1st LoL season with xPeke!
Then Korean no-lifers joined the games and kinda ruined monopolized everything...


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 18, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
-snip-

This caught me off guard so hard that I had to rub my eyes in awe. Secret was looking so dominant on the first day and proceeded to start day two with a clean 2-0. Mineski came in really strong with the draft and gave Moon some of his comfy heroes like Tiny which he went absolutely bonkers on. Massive win for them to keep their upper bracket dreams alive.

Meanwhile TNC on the other hand have looked so good against the top teams that you can't put them out of contention for a place in the upper bracket. It's either Gabbi or Armel stepping up with stellar carry performances and Kuku/Tims having limelight moments which is really proving to be crucial for the wins they have managed to rack up so far.

It's okay, let's proceed to the main stage. The upper bracket and the lower bracket.

Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D
Yeah! I overheard it when I was watching yesterday during their live game against TNC. Whether win or lose, they'll become last on the standing thus getting eliminated.
Check the liquipedia page --> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019/Group_Stage, Chaos and NiP are the first teams to be eliminated.

While TNC, which is the crowd favorite now will be playing against VG at the upper bracket.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on August 18, 2019, 06:13:52 PM

Current stand at the moment and it seems Chaos strike is the first to go to the airport. :D
Yeah! I overheard it when I was watching yesterday during their live game against TNC. Whether win or lose, they'll become last on the standing thus getting eliminated.
Check the liquipedia page --> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019/Group_Stage, Chaos and NiP are the first teams to be eliminated.

While TNC, which is the crowd favorite now will be playing against VG at the upper bracket.
Posting some image for visibility and that upper bracket would be an interesting one.

http://i67.tinypic.com/34e81v5.png

source: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2019


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: NavI_027 on August 18, 2019, 11:49:34 PM
[snip]
Some teams might be holding themselves and just having a plan whether they wanted to be in the upper bracket or in the lower bracket, we still don't know what they're plan is. Also, maybe that is the reason why Liquid, is in the lower bracket. They have their own reasons and we will be seeing their real plays or strats in the group stages.
But still, I think going to the lower bracket is not a great idea because the disadvantage is there, you can't disregard it on calculating your chance of winning. If Team Liquid will lose on their match against Fnatic, which is a team you can't underestimate, then it's time for them to say "Bye bye" lol; unlike on the case of upper bracket teams where they still got one last chance to make their sweetest comeback once they lose :D.

Whether they intended to fall to the lower bracket or not, the clear thing here is they are now at risk of getting eliminated.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: crwth on August 19, 2019, 02:59:05 AM
Here is the Main Event Bracket with great design and with prices in accordance with their rank price. That $15 million USD though!

https://scontent.fmnl3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69320991_2343285765791239_6971833752318115840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQmucIXn5UGBsmM25dkfweYMBp1QQtQ6ZXA_NjPdFokUAfxRaukuIy1LgwUkavpzZwY&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl3-1.fna&oh=930f9bf64d324aecafab9e9922591a02&oe=5E13CBAC

Got this picture in a Facebook Post. Probably made by Dota 2 / Valve people.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 19, 2019, 07:38:34 PM
Here is the Main Event Bracket with great design and with prices in accordance with their rank price. That $15 million USD though!

-snip-

Got this picture in a Facebook Post. Probably made by Dota 2 / Valve people.
Few more hours left and the upper bracket will start the matches. The exciting part is with the lower brackets, they will only fight for a Bo1 series.

They lose and they'll be out of the tournament.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 19, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
Today the Main event will commence. What I observed on the bracket, especially on the upper bracket, the team there are almost the same with the upper bracket of The International 2018. Those teams that in the upper bracket in The International 2018 are teams that performed really well during group stage on this The International.
Probably, we can see a 2 timer The International champion? Hmmmm. Exciting.
https://i.imgflip.com/38e7t5.jpg (https://www.facebook.com/2271006063129540/posts/2443792532517558/)


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 19, 2019, 09:57:06 PM
Today the Main event will commence. What I observed on the bracket, especially on the upper bracket, the team there are almost the same with the upper bracket of The International 2018. Those teams that in the upper bracket in The International 2018 are teams that performed really well during group stage on this The International.
Probably, we can see a 2 timer The International champion? Hmmmm. Exciting.
Hey GreatArkansas, good catch for that comparison!

I'm starting to bleed green now because OG has been consistent during the group stage just like what they did for TI8. Ana's IO has been a surprise and it's much better if they did showed it during this main stage. I like the attitude of Team OG, they've built the team through friendship. They've got a nice coach turned into their offlaner, Ceb is doing it and has taught them how to chill whatever the situation is.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 20, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
Today the Main event will commence. What I observed on the bracket, especially on the upper bracket, the team there are almost the same with the upper bracket of The International 2018. Those teams that in the upper bracket in The International 2018 are teams that performed really well during group stage on this The International.
Probably, we can see a 2 timer The International champion? Hmmmm. Exciting.

It is too early. At this particular stage we still cannot tell whether or not there will be a history going to happen. So far, the possibilities are really vast and the contenders for the Aegis, other than those that have already been champions, are really great teams. It is safe to say that Teams such as Team Secret, Vici Gaming, PSG.LGD, or even TNC Predator could actually become the champion in this year's The International.

And, to be honest, I want another new team to become the champion this year, just like what happened in the previous TIs every year.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 20, 2019, 03:22:41 PM
Sorry to ask guys,

Anyone know the betting site, went i can deposit/withdrawal using bitcoin but also we can withdraw using an item game like DOTA2.

I see OneHash, Nitrogen Esport only provide a bitcoin payment. If can i looking some site who have a few betting match option like VPGame, Went they provide betting match like :
  • Who the first team make a First Blood
  • The first team reach 10 Kill
  • Handicap
  • Betting Match each BO


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on August 20, 2019, 05:35:31 PM
Sorry to ask guys,

Anyone know the betting site, went i can deposit/withdrawal using bitcoin but also we can withdraw using an item game like DOTA2.

I see OneHash, Nitrogen Esport only provide a bitcoin payment. If can i looking some site who have a few betting match option like VPGame, Went they provide betting match like :
  • Who the first team make a First Blood
  • The first team reach 10 Kill
  • Handicap
  • Betting Match each BO

https://loot.bet/sport/esports
https://gg.bet/en/betting


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: FIFA worldcup on August 20, 2019, 06:38:32 PM
Sorry to ask guys,

Anyone know the betting site, went i can deposit/withdrawal using bitcoin but also we can withdraw using an item game like DOTA2.

I see OneHash, Nitrogen Esport only provide a bitcoin payment. If can i looking some site who have a few betting match option like VPGame, Went they provide betting match like :
  • Who the first team make a First Blood
  • The first team reach 10 Kill
  • Handicap
  • Betting Match each BO

https://loot.bet/sport/esports
https://gg.bet/en/betting

Are you sure there two sites give bitcoin deposits option ?
On searching i found only Loot.bet offers betting in bitcoin and ethereum while gg.bet does not give you bitcoin option as deposits.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 20, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
https://loot.bet/sport/esports
https://gg.bet/en/betting

Are you sure there two sites give bitcoin deposits option ?
On searching i found only Loot.bet offers betting in bitcoin and ethereum while gg.bet does not give you bitcoin option as deposits.
I contact Loot.Bet Support, They provide only a deposit item game like Skin CSGO but for the withdrawal need to sell the item and make a withdrawal using Money Payment System like Skyriil, Visa or other payment systems.

I like the interface of Loot.Bet also they have a more betting option for the match on their platform, I think will use the site for next upcoming match for TI9.

Edited : I will not use it, cause need KYC to make a withdrawal at Loot.Bet, Still looking a good site.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 20, 2019, 10:11:02 PM
@ryzaadit it's hard to find that kind of betting site today. Majority if they are focused with item, they'll stick to in game items betting. And with that betting, I used to bet before on d2L.

Where the fans at? I'm disappointed with the crowd.

--> https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/csrfns/crowd_boos_tnc/


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Fundamentals Of on August 21, 2019, 04:35:39 AM
Where the fans at? I'm disappointed with the crowd.

--> https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/csrfns/crowd_boos_tnc/

I was watching the live games late last night. The last game was between Mineski against Natus Vincere. It was a very incredible show of performance by Team Mineski with their unbelievable come-back play but the stadium was silent. The chinese crowd has already left, perhaps because there was no more chinese team on the match. The seats are already vacant even before the game has started. I don't like the way the audience behaved. They watched not because they love Dota 2 or TI but only because they cheering for their own chinese teams.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: milewilda on August 21, 2019, 05:55:16 AM
Where the fans at? I'm disappointed with the crowd.

--> https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/csrfns/crowd_boos_tnc/

I was watching the live games late last night. The last game was between Mineski against Natus Vincere. It was a very incredible show of performance by Team Mineski with their unbelievable come-back play but the stadium was silent. The chinese crowd has already left, perhaps because there was no more chinese team on the match. The seats are already vacant even before the game has started. I don't like the way the audience behaved. They watched not because they love Dota 2 or TI but only because they cheering for their own chinese teams.
China crowd do really sucks and why such production do consider to held the international on shanghai? We didnt expect for these chinese to be salty like this.
You would really feel that theres no crowd around unlike on previous where you can feel out the true essence of sports gaming because of the unbiased crowd unlike now which shows the opposite.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: ryzaadit on August 21, 2019, 11:07:28 AM
EZ PEZZZY Boisss, VP Go Home Now. What a nice yolo + odds from RNG. I missed EG VS Secret because of a chain confirmation went sending bitcoin.

https://i.ibb.co/Tc2HDJy/111.png

Feels bad for VP, They got a good farming phase but RNG nicely avoids a big clash with a split plush on their gameplay. It's a good strategy to avoid a late-game from VP, If RNG Play on late-game should be lost.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 21, 2019, 04:06:34 PM
Where the fans at? I'm disappointed with the crowd.

--> https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/csrfns/crowd_boos_tnc/

I was watching the live games late last night. The last game was between Mineski against Natus Vincere. It was a very incredible show of performance by Team Mineski with their unbelievable come-back play but the stadium was silent. The chinese crowd has already left, perhaps because there was no more chinese team on the match. The seats are already vacant even before the game has started. I don't like the way the audience behaved. They watched not because they love Dota 2 or TI but only because they cheering for their own chinese teams.
That game was tough for Mineski and I'm sure while watching that it's already a game for Na'Vi if they didn't just go directly to the throne and instead go to the top lane and go for the racks.

EZ PEZZZY Boisss, VP Go Home Now. What a nice yolo + odds from RNG. I missed EG VS Secret because of a chain confirmation went sending bitcoin.
TNC lost too while Team Liquid will advance.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 22, 2019, 09:34:08 AM
Where the fans at? I'm disappointed with the crowd.

--> https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/csrfns/crowd_boos_tnc/

I was watching the live games late last night. The last game was between Mineski against Natus Vincere. It was a very incredible show of performance by Team Mineski with their unbelievable come-back play but the stadium was silent. The chinese crowd has already left, perhaps because there was no more chinese team on the match. The seats are already vacant even before the game has started. I don't like the way the audience behaved. They watched not because they love Dota 2 or TI but only because they cheering for their own chinese teams.
That game was tough for Mineski and I'm sure while watching that it's already a game for Na'Vi if they didn't just go directly to the throne and instead go to the top lane and go for the racks.

Mineski games are always tough and very interesting to watch.

Unfortunately, the team has to bid goodbye to TI9 with their loss to Team Secret. But all of their 3 matches are classic. They made the huge crowd alive. Mineski didn't fall down without giving a very passionate battle. Team Secret deserve the win. They were better than Mineski in clashes. They succeeded in making come-backs. But hats off to Mineski, a bottom team, for giving an unforgettable fight against the top team.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: passwordnow on August 22, 2019, 03:53:43 PM
The game of EG versus OG was intense. The drama is on and the handshake of N0tail and Fly was one of the most awaited moment and I guess most of us waited for that moment. OG won against EG securing top 3 with PSG.LGD. It's like last year where PSG.LGD will match against OG again for securing the top1,2 spot.
No more frown on n0tail's face when he handshake Fly.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on August 22, 2019, 05:34:21 PM
The game of EG versus OG was intense. The drama is on and the handshake of N0tail and Fly was one of the most awaited moment and I guess most of us waited for that moment. OG won against EG securing top 3 with PSG.LGD. It's like last year where PSG.LGD will match against OG again for securing the top1,2 spot.
No more frown on n0tail's face when he handshake Fly.
Its always been controversial when these two teams do fight where Notail and Fly drama do rises.First game won by EG but OG do able to make a comeback with their 2nd round good draft.

I do like on how OG do execute skills on timing.There might be some misses but most of the time they are executed perfectly.AM last pick of rtz on game 3 is useless yet its being isolated on early game and affect its farming.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 22, 2019, 10:40:23 PM
Where the fans at? I'm disappointed with the crowd.

--> https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/csrfns/crowd_boos_tnc/

I was watching the live games late last night. The last game was between Mineski against Natus Vincere. It was a very incredible show of performance by Team Mineski with their unbelievable come-back play but the stadium was silent. The chinese crowd has already left, perhaps because there was no more chinese team on the match. The seats are already vacant even before the game has started. I don't like the way the audience behaved. They watched not because they love Dota 2 or TI but only because they cheering for their own chinese teams.
That game was tough for Mineski and I'm sure while watching that it's already a game for Na'Vi if they didn't just go directly to the throne and instead go to the top lane and go for the racks.

Mineski games are always tough and very interesting to watch.

Unfortunately, the team has to bid goodbye to TI9 with their loss to Team Secret. But all of their 3 matches are classic. They made the huge crowd alive. Mineski didn't fall down without giving a very passionate battle. Team Secret deserve the win. They were better than Mineski in clashes. They succeeded in making come-backs. But hats off to Mineski, a bottom team, for giving an unforgettable fight against the top team.
Sad for team Mineski, they were kicked by Team Secret.

The 2 games were in favor of them but there's always a comeback for Team Secret. Kudos for Mineski for giving hardship to Team Secret but still experience made Team Secret won against them.

Team Secret's next match is with Infamous, I like that underdog team but I think Team Secret got this.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 23, 2019, 03:12:45 AM
Day 3 Standings Bracket:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EClfNJ9UwAEjLsi?format=jpg&name=medium
Really hype game! Really a lot of ups and downs for this The International.

OG are still the winner on the battle of EG vs OG on the upper bracket (same happened before on The International 2019), still, either LGD or OG will be on the grand finals. Same as last year The International, either of this two will be on the grand finals.

I am much rooting for the lower bracket, especially when EG fall. I decided to bet all the way here, EG all the way until grand finals, they have the potential especially when they beat the Team Secret at the upper bracket. EG already has proven it at the upper bracket, even Liquid will win versus RNG. The only difficulty is once OG will fall to lower bracket against the LGD.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 23, 2019, 07:16:41 AM
The game of EG versus OG was intense. The drama is on and the handshake of N0tail and Fly was one of the most awaited moment and I guess most of us waited for that moment. OG won against EG securing top 3 with PSG.LGD. It's like last year where PSG.LGD will match against OG again for securing the top1,2 spot.
No more frown on n0tail's face when he handshake Fly.

Though I was disappointed at that shake this year, there is no drama.

I guess NoTail is really a great guy, he's moved on since I know he is so confident and comfortable with the team he have now. Infamous is another team to look out for. It is a strong team this TI and another thing is RNGU which 2-0 VP, which is being expected to made the higher tier. Ughh! Another great TI for me!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 23, 2019, 08:42:10 AM
I am much rooting for the lower bracket, especially when EG fall. I decided to bet all the way here, EG all the way until grand finals, they have the potential especially when they beat the Team Secret at the upper bracket.
The game is on right now, EG vs. Team Liquid whoever losses the Bo3 match will go home with $1.1M.

Watch the live now.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 23, 2019, 08:52:50 AM
I am much rooting for the lower bracket, especially when EG fall. I decided to bet all the way here, EG all the way until grand finals, they have the potential especially when they beat the Team Secret at the upper bracket.
The game is on right now, EG vs. Team Liquid whoever losses the Bo3 match will go home with $1.1M.

Watch the live now.

My bet here is on EG

Team Liquid did great with RNGU with Miracle carrying one game with the favorite combo Gyrocopter and IO. RNGU may not be that strong but I guess it will be another great game since EG will not just let this game fall. This may be a ploy of Liquid si they can stand strong against teams in the lower bracket but EG is also doing great. EG vs VG will be the quarter-finals of the lower bracket.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 23, 2019, 08:58:30 AM
I am much rooting for the lower bracket, especially when EG fall. I decided to bet all the way here, EG all the way until grand finals, they have the potential especially when they beat the Team Secret at the upper bracket.
The game is on right now, EG vs. Team Liquid whoever losses the Bo3 match will go home with $1.1M.

Watch the live now.

My bet here is on EG

Team Liquid did great with RNGU with Miracle carrying one game with the favorite combo Gyrocopter and IO. RNGU may not be that strong but I guess it will be another great game since EG will not just let this game fall. This may be a ploy of Liquid si they can stand strong against teams in the lower bracket but EG is also doing great. EG vs VG will be the quarter-finals of the lower bracket.
The first game for Liquid vs RNG is very predictable. The heroes for RNG looks easy and can't even stand a chance. Actually, RNG is a strong China team. There's LanM and ah fu who are veteran players.

I didn't bet for EG vs Team Liquid.

I'll bet tomorrow for Team Secret vs. VG.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: shoreno on August 23, 2019, 09:44:50 AM
the first game for Liquid vs RNG is very predictable. The heroes for RNG looks easy and can't even stand a chance. Actually, RNG is a strong China team. There's LanM and ah fu who are veteran players.

I didn't bet for EG vs Team Liquid.

I'll bet tomorrow for Team Secret vs. VG.

rng is stong but their hero picks are bad ?  but lets not judge the hero picks because sometimes bad hero picks are the still the winner of the game  . the goal of the game is not about picking a hero but its the player or the team if how they coordinate verry well .

i dont know team liquid but i recognize the team eg  .

 i also heard of team secret  and the battle between them and eg should be tough . youd better bet on eg vs other unpopular teams though


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 23, 2019, 10:16:32 AM
the first game for Liquid vs RNG is very predictable. The heroes for RNG looks easy and can't even stand a chance. Actually, RNG is a strong China team. There's LanM and ah fu who are veteran players.

I didn't bet for EG vs Team Liquid.

I'll bet tomorrow for Team Secret vs. VG.

rng is stong but their hero picks are bad ?  but lets not judge the hero picks because sometimes bad hero picks are the still the winner of the game  . the goal of the game is not about picking a hero but its the player or the team if how they coordinate verry well .

i dont know team liquid but i recognize the team eg  .

 i also heard of team secret  and the battle between them and eg should be tough . youd better bet on eg vs other unpopular teams though
That's base on my opinion, look at the heroes for their game 1. I really think the draft is very bad and they've lost 2-0 against Liquid.

Well EG is now out of the tourney taking the 5th-6th place.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 23, 2019, 12:21:45 PM
I'm really disappointed on EG. They can easily take down Liquid with there ability to dominate every lane, but their drafts are really trash.
Ok. Move on.

SECRET VS VG
I will be on Team Secret especially the odds on Playbetr.com are almost equal, it's good to make some make some huge bet here.
Why Team Secret? Hmmm. DPC points Champion. Period.
They have the best captain and a beast carry.

OG VS LGD
https://i.imgflip.com/38p6ux.jpg
(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 23, 2019, 01:11:21 PM
I'm really disappointed on EG. They can easily take down Liquid with there ability to dominate every lane, but their drafts are really trash.

I am too, I am on their side thinking they can defeat Liquid but they can't.

Seeing their match, they can't win most of the lanes and they are really dominated, I agree that it is an out picked match-up.


I'm with VG here.

A lot of analysts are saying Team Secret can win the TI but for me this will be a Chinese turn to win. Another thing is that I think VG can surprise Secret's run in the lower bracket. For now, I really want to see the rematch of ti8's Finalists, that would be really exciting.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Oilacris on August 23, 2019, 06:10:23 PM
I'm really disappointed on EG. They can easily take down Liquid with there ability to dominate every lane, but their drafts are really trash.

I am too, I am on their side thinking they can defeat Liquid but they can't.

Seeing their match, they can't win most of the lanes and they are really dominated, I agree that it is an out picked match-up.

Liquids draft is much better among on 2 games plus the good performance of its players.I see that EG is a good team but it isn't enough
to beat up Liquid.They might be on lower bracket but doesn't mean that they can beat up those teams on high tiers.LGD vs OG would be hot as hell.  ;D


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 23, 2019, 08:10:03 PM
Why Team Secret? Hmmm. DPC points Champion. Period.
They have the best captain and a beast carry.
Major Champion or any other tourneys does not guarantee that they would able to pull it out on this year international which is really unpredictable.Take a look on underdog infamous which able to pass up some top rank teams in the list.
OG VS LGD
(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.

The event held on shanghai - a Chinese team so its quite understandable that they would be the favorite this time not saying that they arent good but possibly they can make some revenge with OG with this year TI's.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: nakamura12 on August 23, 2019, 09:12:50 PM
I am always watching matches of every teams but mostly team I watched is Team Liquid when I stop playing Dota 2 for a moment. Each team have chances on winning the championship as the champion. I think the prize pool will still increase but I don't know the reason why it is increase but what I know is that the percentage of the amount used to buy battle pass will go to the prizepool.. Good luck to the teams and also to the bettors who bet.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on August 23, 2019, 09:40:17 PM

(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.


Don't get me wrong, OG will be playing against the home crowds favorite and their rival from ti8. So it is normal to see the odds are favoring PSG-LGD but still OG has a chance to duplicate their ti8 run. On the other hand, Liquid keeps on climbing up kicking out whoever the opponents they face coming from the upper bracket and I guess they are the dark knights of this ti9.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 24, 2019, 04:06:17 AM

(I didn't expected that the odds is favor on LGD,lol)
I'm all in to OG! TI8 champions. Topson is really incredible, a very aggressive mid laner and have the ability to be the game changer on their every games. But the only problem is how will they will manage the drafting of LGD. LGD has large hero pool, unpredictable drafts. But still, looking forward to OG.


Don't get me wrong, OG will be playing against the home crowds favorite and their rival from ti8. So it is normal to see the odds are favoring PSG-LGD but still OG has a chance to duplicate their ti8 run. On the other hand, Liquid keeps on climbing up kicking out whoever the opponents they face coming from the upper bracket and I guess they are the dark knights of this ti9.

And this is the only reason why the odds between OG and PSG are not equal. I mean, the chinese bettors. PSG with 1.58 vs. OG's 2.24 is rather hard to explain considering how OG has shown to the entire TI9 audience all throughout their matches how they cannot lose to anyone. I'm using the odds at Sportsbet here. My bet will go to OG for this match even if they appear underdog, at least according to the odds.

By the way, the amazing run of Team Liquid has been going on unbreakable at the lower bracket. Do you think they are gonna successfully kick Team Secret for good?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 24, 2019, 08:38:50 AM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on August 24, 2019, 09:19:57 AM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 24, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 24, 2019, 12:14:54 PM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 24, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.

I think this is the opposite of what you've said.

Liquid did great in the lower bracket but I don't think they will be able to beat Psg Lgd tomorrow since there are only a few mistakes this team is making, Liquid on the others side got away from the mistakes they had in their recent games. If you will be seeing it, Miracle usually overextends in clashes, which make him usually a bait and leaving it all on w33 and his teammate's shoulders. If that will be countered by PSG which is flawless on their recent games, I think LGD will have a rematch and I think that will happen. LGD might be the champion, I'm telling you, they will win this TI.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 24, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.
Just like on previous years on TI's where they do really go on lower bracket strategy.We dont know if its intentional tactic or not.
OG is waiting for the winner of Liquid and LGD match up for the grand finals and this fight would really be intense.
Can Liquid drafting can beat out LGD's?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 24, 2019, 09:15:30 PM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 25, 2019, 12:52:11 AM
All right, nice win by OG against LGD and Secret against VG.

https://i.imgur.com/68u3Ag6.png
Let's do it first for the first game of the day, PSG.LGD vs Team Liquid.
This match is really difficult, but I'm going for Team Liquid because the momentum is favouring them. Especially, all of the teams who dropped from the Upper Bracket are already eliminated in the tournament, right? So, probably the next is PSG.LGD, I don't want to repeat The International 2019, which OG vs LGD is fighting for the aegis.

Team Liquid has shown how they become dominate especially on drafting, their cores have really large hero pool, especially w33ha and Miracle which anyone of them can go mid lane or carry. Remember on EG vs Team Liquid, their drafts are an incredible beast, they dominate EG and Team Secret too which has unpredictable drafts, they take down Team Secret.

Either w33ha or Miracle will be taken down, but one of them will carry the game, like if one of them is really got dominated by enemy, and one of them also will carry the game, like their will be one who will sacrifice just to create a space on another core.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 25, 2019, 02:05:19 AM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.

Maybr it is a ploy of Kuroky, he's IQ is really over the top when it comes to Dota.

Picks that is usually unpredictable and yet won a lot of their matches made Liquid conquer the lower bracket. I am amazed by that, that IO counter pick with their match against Secret really made it clear, Liquid is aiming to win again TI, this time without Matumba, and they will lose against PSGLGD


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 25, 2019, 02:43:52 AM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.

Maybr it is a ploy of Kuroky, he's IQ is really over the top when it comes to Dota.

Picks that is usually unpredictable and yet won a lot of their matches made Liquid conquer the lower bracket. I am amazed by that, that IO counter pick with their match against Secret really made it clear, Liquid is aiming to win again TI, this time without Matumba, and they will lose against PSGLGD

I am on the other side of the fence here. I am looking at a TI9 Championship between OG and Team Liquid. It is interesting to take note that Team Liquid has never lost a single game under the lower bracket! From the point they were matched with Fnatic, a fellow lower bracket team, up to their sweeping win against Team Secret, they have been very consistent. They have won every single game against any team that the upper bracket has thrown them. They are eliminating every single upper bracket team, and this is going to continue until the finals! We'll see!  :)


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on August 25, 2019, 07:21:15 AM
OG is now waiting for the grand finals while they've sent PSG.LGD to the lower bracket.

ATM, Team Secret vs Team Liquid.

I want to see Liquid up against OG in the finals. Then I guess PSG-LGD will not be an easy opponent for Liquid if they will against team secret. It's very exciting to see every match specially this final four teams that are considered to be the best this ti9.
Team Liquid secured the top 3 spot and will be fighting against PSG.LGD tomorrow. While Team Secret, takes the 4th place and gets out of the tournament.

Team Liquid has an amazing run on the lower bracket without any loss.

That is the thing. A lot of Liquid supporters this TI was disappointed at the matches they had before the group stage, but when the bracket went up, Liquid did not lose in the lower bracket statong the fact that they are just laying down a plan. PSGLGD did great, but I think this will be their last match. We will be seeing a TI Finals without a chinese team this year.
Yeah their matches on the group stage aren't really interesting and it's like, "Is this really Team Liquid?" but now they have changed a lot.

There's a belief that they really thrown themselves to the lower bracket but I don't think they've done that intentionally.

Maybr it is a ploy of Kuroky, he's IQ is really over the top when it comes to Dota.

Picks that is usually unpredictable and yet won a lot of their matches made Liquid conquer the lower bracket. I am amazed by that, that IO counter pick with their match against Secret really made it clear, Liquid is aiming to win again TI, this time without Matumba, and they will lose against PSGLGD

This time Liquid has a strong midlaner on w33haa which makes their play more different than before. So I guess they have a higher chance of winning this ti9 against a much composed OG team. It would be a hell of a game where both team are champions of the last two TI's. My bet would go to team Liquid in 5 games.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Janation on August 25, 2019, 09:47:02 AM
This time Liquid has a strong midlaner on w33haa which makes their play more different than before. So I guess they have a higher chance of winning this ti9 against a much composed OG team. It would be a hell of a game where both team are champions of the last two TI's. My bet would go to team Liquid in 5 games.

My bet lost, Liquid now is facing OG at the Grand Finals.

Liquid won the first game, amazing game, so amazing, expected of what should game be in the Grand Finals of TI. I do not hate Liquid, it is just that I bet on the Chinese team which really disappointed me. My bet is on OG, not just because they are the favorite but because they are a solid team ever since they won TI8. They are consistent at what they are doing and I expect them to be the first team to win TI twice.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 25, 2019, 10:46:14 AM
It's already the end of game 2 of the finals and we're getting hyped!

I thought Team Liquid will have 2-0 already but OG wants to be champion also so they manage to get game 2. It's also the first time in TI of DOTA2 that it will have two times champion because Team Liquid was a TI7 champion while OG was the defending champion (TI8 champion) and now, TI9, we will have it.

It's good to watch TI now but there's no crowd, I hope the venue of The international goes to the Philippines so we can hype the event even there's no Filipino team in the finals.

I wanted to bet but there's no money left for me, I'll just support TL to become the TI9 champion. The miracle is in there.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on August 25, 2019, 10:57:16 AM
It's already the end of game 2 of the finals and we're getting hyped!

I thought Team Liquid will have 2-0 already but OG wants to be champion also so they manage to get game 2. It's also the first time in TI of DOTA2 that it will have two times champion because Team Liquid was a TI7 champion while OG was the defending champion (TI8 champion) and now, TI9, we will have it.

It's good to watch TI now but there's no crowd, I hope the venue of The international goes to the Philippines so we can hype the event even there's no Filipino team in the finals.

I wanted to bet but there's no money left for me, I'll just support TL to become the TI9 champion. The miracle is in there.

Go liquid! That's insane that OG is unstoppable in game two not letting Liquid farm and killing every hero they see. I hope Liquid will find a way to adjust in that kind of play to regain the lead.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 25, 2019, 11:15:03 AM
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Go liquid! That's insane that OG is unstoppable in game two not letting Liquid farm and killing every hero they see. I hope Liquid will find a way to adjust in that kind of play to regain the lead.

Start of Game 3.

Well, ana is very unstoppable on that game and they're very aggressive. Even me, can't handle those gameplays and it will literally choke me.

The liquid wasn't able to adjust because their gameplay is the same as the fight on LGD which is recent. If they are able to adjust their gameplay, they'll manage to win the TI9.

Bet on Team Liquid, you'll get a sure win.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2019, 11:49:08 AM
Go liquid! That's insane that OG is unstoppable in game two not letting Liquid farm and killing every hero they see. I hope Liquid will find a way to adjust in that kind of play to regain the lead.

Not really surprised by it since we all know how OG really is so aggressive as long as they have the chance. If liquid let OG play like that again the third time, well, that is the end and OG will be the first team to win TI not only twice, but back to back wins. I want OG to win but Liquid did great too so it is hard to bet on these two teams. I put VG in my compendium by the way, how about you guys?


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 25, 2019, 12:11:03 PM
Go liquid! That's insane that OG is unstoppable in game two not letting Liquid farm and killing every hero they see. I hope Liquid will find a way to adjust in that kind of play to regain the lead.

Not really surprised by it since we all know how OG really is so aggressive as long as they have the chance. If liquid let OG play like that again the third time, well, that is the end and OG will be the first team to win TI not only twice, but back to back wins. I want OG to win but Liquid did great too so it is hard to bet on these two teams. I put VG in my compendium by the way, how about you guys?

Team Liquid urgently needs to do something. The last couple of games are not really interesting to watch. OG has literally schooled Team Liquid. I also don't understand why Team Liquid has to insist on that Templar Assassin over and over again. It failed them in the 2nd game and then they still took the chance on it in their third game. And, again, they lost.

Or perhaps OG really belongs to a different league. The 1st game was Team Liquid's but it was a very hard uphill battle. It was basically a come-back. The 2nd and 3rd games, on the other hand, are OG's and they came very handy. They were easy wins. 


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 25, 2019, 12:42:18 PM
I'm expecting a game 5 but OG already finished the game!

It's a 16 million dollars diffusal! ;)
Congratulations to those people who bet on OG, my team liquid lost the game.

The game was very phenomenal and I can't easily move on.

credits to Wykrhm Reddy

Still, the crowd wasn't that cool, I hope the next venue was the Philippines and we promise that the event will be more exciting.
The host or interviewer didn't talk about ana, well he was also the one who carries the team.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 25, 2019, 12:48:31 PM
I'm expecting a game 5 but OG already finished the game!

It's a 16 million dollars diffusal! ;)
Congratulations to those people who bet on OG, my team liquid lost the game.

The game was very phenomenal and I can't easily move on.


Still, the crowd wasn't that cool, I hope the next venue was the Philippines and we promise that the event will be more exciting.
The host or interviewer didn't talk about ana, well he was also the one who carries the team.

That was very fast of you, finaleshot2016! Nice poster you've got there.

Congratulations to all OG supporters and fans! They really deserve it! As I've said, they belong to a different league. They have successfully broken the curse, and a back-to-back TI champions at that!

But sadly, yes, the crowd is made up of mannequins!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 25, 2019, 12:57:38 PM
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That was very fast of you, finaleshot2016! Nice poster you've got there.

Congratulations to all OG supporters and fans! They really deserve it! As I've said, they belong to a different league. They have successfully broken the curse, and a back-to-back TI champions at that!

But sadly, yes, the crowd is made up of mannequins!

Thanks, credits to Wykrhm Reddy!

They're on a different level, Team Liquid too because they managed to reach in the finals even they're on the lower bracket. Still, hands down to them because they're the kings of Lower Bracket who defeated all of the teams in lower even China's LGD.

OG has the easiest way to reach the finals so it means they're on the level of Gods.
I hope they changed the venue, Dota2 has a great community, they don't need sponsors for the event and we don't need bias crowd.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2019, 01:23:57 PM
I am high, and I know Team OG is higher. They are the first Dota2 team to win twice in the TI and not only that, they won back to back and that is a record no one will ever break so easily. They shaped the meta this TI and it is really amazing. They started the meta of IO as carry and they end the tournament with that meta, so amazing. Congratulations to them!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 25, 2019, 01:27:16 PM
I'm expecting a game 5 but OG already finished the game!

It's a 16 million dollars diffusal! ;)
Congratulations to those people who bet on OG, my team liquid lost the game.
It's okay Team Liquid did good for this series but OG did their best and kudos to both teams. That's a lot of money for the team, winning TI8 and TI9 which has the highest prize pot in the history of The International.

"Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!"

Congratulations OG! #DreamOG


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 25, 2019, 01:54:53 PM
I'm expecting a game 5 but OG already finished the game!

It's a 16 million dollars diffusal! ;)
Congratulations to those people who bet on OG, my team liquid lost the game.
It's okay Team Liquid did good for this series but OG did their best and kudos to both teams. That's a lot of money for the team, winning TI8 and TI9 which has the highest prize pot in the history of The International.

"Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!"

Congratulations OG! #DreamOG

Lakad Matataaaag! Normalin! Normalin!

LOL!


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2019, 02:04:11 PM
I hope they changed the venue, Dota2 has a great community, they don't need sponsors for the event and we don't need bias crowd.

They already announced the venue, you can just searched that out since as far as I know, it is in Sweden. This crowd is really biased, TNC is booed in the event, that is really bad.

OG has the easiest way to reach the finals so it means they're on the level of Gods.

NoTail with those counter picks is really great, I don't know what to say. A lot of hero pool are available for Team Liquid but OG has their own trap picks that really fool Liquid's team plays. No one will really defeat this team as long as they are not holding papers like NoTail, it is funny but I think that book really holds the reason why they won.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: jakelyson on August 25, 2019, 02:34:25 PM
OG showed fantastic gaming. They deserve to be the back-to-back champion of The International. OG showed us new ways to play DOTA.

I think fatigue also contributed to Liquids performance since they have to face LGD before they enter the grand finals but that is just the way it is. It is part of the game.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 25, 2019, 03:02:25 PM
OG showed fantastic gaming. They deserve to be the back-to-back champion of The International. OG showed us new ways to play DOTA.

I think fatigue also contributed to Liquids performance since they have to face LGD before they enter the grand finals but that is just the way it is. It is part of the game.
OG has complete set of genius. I really admire the team and thought that they'll never get the aegis this year but they just did.

Yeah about Liquid, it's a mental warfare so its kinda hard to think and play at the same time if you've been in the lower brackets.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Ranly123 on August 25, 2019, 03:42:14 PM
OG showed fantastic gaming. They deserve to be the back-to-back champion of The International. OG showed us new ways to play DOTA.

I think fatigue also contributed to Liquids performance since they have to face LGD before they enter the grand finals but that is just the way it is. It is part of the game.
OG has complete set of genius. I really admire the team and thought that they'll never get the aegis this year but they just did.

Yeah about Liquid, it's a mental warfare so its kinda hard to think and play at the same time if you've been in the lower brackets.

It's a disaster for liquid. I lost my bet though, but still a satisfying loss. The game was so intense that I even say wow to the plays of OG where miracle and the rest of team Liquid can do nothing on their aggressive plays. Congrats to team OG though.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 25, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
OG showed fantastic gaming. They deserve to be the back-to-back champion of The International. OG showed us new ways to play DOTA.

I think fatigue also contributed to Liquids performance since they have to face LGD before they enter the grand finals but that is just the way it is. It is part of the game.
OG has complete set of genius. I really admire the team and thought that they'll never get the aegis this year but they just did.

Yeah about Liquid, it's a mental warfare so its kinda hard to think and play at the same time if you've been in the lower brackets.

It's a disaster for liquid. I lost my bet though, but still a satisfying loss. The game was so intense that I even say wow to the plays of OG where miracle and the rest of team Liquid can do nothing on their aggressive plays. Congrats to team OG though.
Props to team Liquid.

I can say that they are the king of lower bracket.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 26, 2019, 12:24:01 AM
The International 2019 runs smoothly lot of ups and downs, emotions and great plays. Congrats to OG, back to back champions, curse is broken, and first in the history of The International for being 2times TI champion with same team, same rooster and back to back TI champion too.

My last bets for the tournament goes bad, my last bet was after the game 3 of OG vs Team Liquid, when 2-1 favor of OG. I am looking for 2-2 for more intense game but OG finished the tournament early.
https://i.imgflip.com/38vpvc.jpg


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: darklus123 on August 26, 2019, 02:48:21 AM
OG is pretty consistent in taking advantage of their drafts ever since. That is actually the main reason why they are in advantage in most of their games and I never doubted it that during game 4 they've had a very good advantage because of their drafts.



Props to team Liquid.

I can say that they are the king of lower bracket.
I am also a fan of team liquid they really are too good when they are from the lower bracket. I was actually hoping that they will make it and win the TI just like what they did during TI7. It's just that OG right now are pretty smart and I guess it is just their time. Kuddos to Team Liquid tho for making at the Grand Finals again.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: Darker45 on August 26, 2019, 04:42:58 AM
OG is pretty consistent in taking advantage of their drafts ever since. That is actually the main reason why they are in advantage in most of their games and I never doubted it that during game 4 they've had a very good advantage because of their drafts.

After I watched all the championship games, I was thinking that even if the two teams would exchange drafts, OG will still win over Team Liquid. They were simply too smart for Team Liquid to conquer. OG was perfectly aggressive, they control the entire map, they farmed very well, they could quickly respond to a teammate under attack, and so on.

But of course, hats off to Team liquid. They have successfully made it all the way to the championship round from the lower bracket.


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: boyptc on August 26, 2019, 08:34:48 PM


Props to team Liquid.

I can say that they are the king of lower bracket.
I am also a fan of team liquid they really are too good when they are from the lower bracket. I was actually hoping that they will make it and win the TI just like what they did during TI7. It's just that OG right now are pretty smart and I guess it is just their time. Kuddos to Team Liquid tho for making at the Grand Finals again.
Honestly, when Team Liquid beat LGD on their Bo3 series, it's already a relief to them.

The crowd isn't really cheerful for a non-Chinese team that's why I'll go with the sentiment that OG vs. Team Liquid was an ideal match. Both former The International champions and one potentially can be a two-time TI winner and that's OG.

OG now became a source of meme.  :D


Title: Re: [Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 30, 2019, 05:11:12 AM
After the highest prize pool Dota 2 tournament in the world. One of the most awaited roster shuffle is about to come for each teams.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/cvg1u9/postti9_shuffle/