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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: MultiCoinGames on July 27, 2019, 11:21:46 PM



Title: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: MultiCoinGames on July 27, 2019, 11:21:46 PM
What happened:
User made lie topic about our gambling site without any proofs.
 User not provide proofs of scam and spamming in all our topics.
He added negative feedback and red flag without any reasons/proofs.



Scammers Profile Link 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2385931 Mirae

Scammers Profile Link 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632 Royse777, added negative feedback without proofs.
Royse777 profile association with Superbru https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141475


Scammers Profile Link 3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=702430 fortunecrypto, added negative feedback without proofs. fortunecrypto profile association with FootBallCoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1851513

Scammers Profile Link 4: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269497 Bitcoin_Arena, support red flag without proofs.  

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168895.0

Amount Scammed: More

Payment Method: Our reputation.

Proof of Payment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168895.0

Additional Notes:
On BitcoinTalk it's okay make red flag and create Scam Accusations without any proofs?
Mirae just a weird dude or a casino rival owner?
Remember:
Any proofs of our scam not provided by any users.
We pay all wins.
Our site not scam.



Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on July 28, 2019, 12:09:42 AM
Scammers Profile Link 4: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269497 Bitcoin_Arena, support red flag without proofs.  
I supported the flag because you left me with no choice.
You just did what 99.9% of the scammers do here... Hide behind a self-moderated thread and delete a reply when asked about the legitimacy of their project/site.
If your gambling site is something genuine, then you would have been transparent and answered what i asked you. It's quite simple.


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: DarkStar_ on July 28, 2019, 12:17:50 AM
On BitcoinTalk it's okay make red flag and create Scam Accusations without any proofs?

Regardless of whether it's okay (yes it is, though people who make inaccurate red flags might be blacklisted from showing up in the trust system by default), you're doing the same thing you're complaining about and making red flags/scam accusations without proof.


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: MultiCoinGames on July 28, 2019, 12:19:14 AM
Scammers Profile Link 4: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269497 Bitcoin_Arena, support red flag without proofs.  
I supported the flag because you left me with no choice.
You just did what 99.9% of the scammers do here... Hide behind a self-moderated thread and delete a reply when asked about the legitimacy of their project/site.
If your gambling site is something genuine, then you would have been transparent and answered what i asked you. It's quite simple.

I have been transparent and answered for all questions.
About deposits/withdrawals, about site, about payments.


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: DarkStar_ on July 28, 2019, 12:40:47 AM
On BitcoinTalk it's okay make red flag and create Scam Accusations without any proofs?

Regardless of whether it's okay (yes it is, though people who make inaccurate red flags might be blacklisted from showing up in the trust system by default), you're doing the same thing you're complaining about and making red flags/scam accusations without proof.
In meaning I make a flag without proof?
Re-read my post.
  These people destroy the reputation of our casino without reason / proof.
NOBODY WAS SCAMMED BY OUR CASINO. NOBODY
WE PAY ALL  WINS
Re-read it again.

Read the flag text:
Quote
Due to the factors mentioned in the above topic, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on any mere disagreements I may have with the user.

Them believing that your site is a scam does not mean that anyone trading with them has a high risk of losing money. I don't see any concrete red flags, and it seems to be a mere disagreement that you have with the user.


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: robelneo on July 28, 2019, 12:45:59 AM
On BitcoinTalk it's okay make red flag and create Scam Accusations without any proofs?

Regardless of whether it's okay (yes it is, though people who make inaccurate red flags might be blacklisted from showing up in the trust system by default), you're doing the same thing you're complaining about and making red flags/scam accusations without proof.

In meaning I make a flag without proof?

Re-read my post.
  These people destroy the reputation of our casino without reason / proof.

NOBODY WAS SCAMMED BY OUR CASINO. NOBODY

WE PAY ALL  WINS

Re-read it again.




This is very easy to address take out the moderated thread, people should have open reviews about your gambling sites, it should be unmoderated so you can address all issue as they come, check out all the big gambling sites, majority of them are not moderated.

You have a signature campaign yet it is also moderated.


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: AB de Royse777 on July 28, 2019, 09:32:31 AM
Scammers Profile Link 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632 Royse777, added negative feedback without proofs.
Royse777 profile association with Superbru https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141475

I am banging my head to understand how superbru account association is relevant here :-D

Anyway, I would like to have a expiation for this:

Quote
In order to request a withdrawal, they ask to deposit $ 5.
ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168872.msg51951231#msg51951231

Why do a deposit require?



edit:
I have been transparent and answered for all questions.
About deposits/withdrawals, about site, about payments.

I did some reading in your ANN topic and also in the terms page. I have not find my answer anywhere yet.

The FAQ page says this:
Quote
How are withdrawals processed?
There are two kinds of withdrawals: instant and batch. Instant withdrawals are processed immediately. The user can then monitor the withdrawal either in account history tab or via any blockchain explorer. The only exception when an instant withdrawal is not processed immediately is when there are not enough funds in game hot wallet. For security reasons we try to keep most of the funds in cold wallet. Transferring funds from cold wallet is a manual process which can take from a few minutes to few hours. In such a case the withdrawal will be marked as "pending" and will be submitted to network as soon as funds are moved.
http://archive.is/qFzb6#selection-237.0-243.628

But it never explained to deposit first before to withdrawal

New archive of ANN (http://archive.is/SwHqt)


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: MultiCoinGames-com on July 29, 2019, 10:28:56 PM
Scammers Profile Link 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632 Royse777, added negative feedback without proofs.
Royse777 profile association with Superbru https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141475

I am banging my head to understand how superbru account association is relevant here :-D

Anyway, I would like to have a expiation for this:

Quote
In order to request a withdrawal, they ask to deposit $ 5.
ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168872.msg51951231#msg51951231

Why do a deposit require?



edit:
I have been transparent and answered for all questions.
About deposits/withdrawals, about site, about payments.

I did some reading in your ANN topic and also in the terms page. I have not find my answer anywhere yet.

The FAQ page says this:
Quote
How are withdrawals processed?
There are two kinds of withdrawals: instant and batch. Instant withdrawals are processed immediately. The user can then monitor the withdrawal either in account history tab or via any blockchain explorer. The only exception when an instant withdrawal is not processed immediately is when there are not enough funds in game hot wallet. For security reasons we try to keep most of the funds in cold wallet. Transferring funds from cold wallet is a manual process which can take from a few minutes to few hours. In such a case the withdrawal will be marked as "pending" and will be submitted to network as soon as funds are moved.
http://archive.is/qFzb6#selection-237.0-243.628

But it never explained to deposit first before to withdrawal

New archive of ANN (http://archive.is/SwHqt)


Deposit not require now.
Deposit was required for security reason, because every player get 1$ free for balance.
 Now this promo canceled.

Moderated thread was deleted, people should have open reviews about our gambling site, and we created unmoderated thread.


Title: Re: Mirae create Scam Accusations without any proofs, not provide proofs of scam
Post by: AB de Royse777 on July 30, 2019, 01:33:05 PM
Deposit not require now.
Good to hear that.

Quote
Deposit was required for security reason, because every player get 1$ free for balance.
 Now this promo canceled.
Can you elaborate the security issue here? People will pay using Bitcoin and you will also pay back using Bitcoin, right?

Anyway, I will observe your moves for a long period before removing the tag I have for you.