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Title: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: tvplus006 on August 06, 2019, 09:35:29 PM
What happened: Plagiarized Whitepaper. No links to primary sources

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Website: https://icoin.ws/
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Whitepaper: https://icoin.ws/download/wp.pdf
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20190806212716/https://icoin.ws/download/wp.pdf

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Domain Name: ICOIN.WS
Domain ID: 6E5B82116E5CC150E050010AAC011AF0
WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2019-06-04
Creation Date: 2019-06-04
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-06-04



Left on the photo - ICOIN.WS, on right - ORIGINAL

https://coinpaprika.com/storage/cdn/whitepapers/10574589.pdf
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Domain Name: COINPAPRIKA.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2213247599_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ovh.com
Registrar URL: http://www.ovh.com
Updated Date: 2018-12-06
Creation Date: 2018-01-15
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-01-15

https://i.ibb.co/GM4WT09/2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/FWDfyGf/333.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/zfq2mN0/1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

https://roblescharmen.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/history-of-diamond-rings/
https://i.ibb.co/Ss1T9TB/1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

http://advice-on-home-business.ning.com/profile/StephaneDube
https://i.ibb.co/PNQ9Kyd/333.jpg (https://ibb.co/KXwLdgJ)


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: bakasabo on August 07, 2019, 06:55:16 AM
Also their Project Manager uses edited photo/screenshot from mobile app "Facetune".

[ANN] [NEW] [IEO] Icoin International - Investing in real diamond mining (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172796.0)
https://icoin.ws/#team
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-goldblatt-75279218a/detail/photo/

https://i.imgur.com/EGS0AyN.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/fzfLcMW.png

Found it yesterday and was a bit confused if the project is scam or just a coincidence with a photo.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 07, 2019, 07:45:22 AM


https://www.mendaki.org.sg/qws/slot/u50178/2.%20Publication%20&%20Resources/2.1%20Exam%20Ready%20Mock%20Papers/GCE%20O%20Papers/English/ERC%202018%20O%20Lvl%20Eng%20Ins%20-%20v3%20Final.pdf
https://i.ibb.co/mH1NNtk/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/y8G445t)



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https://i.ibb.co/bWcFzZJ/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/dW8tGqg)
https://i.ibb.co/GpgLGTt/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/W5Sw7tP)
https://myfauxdiamond.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/the-history-of-diamonds/


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https://i.ibb.co/S38VSkQ/Screenshot-2.png (https://ibb.co/VqZM6FH)
https://i.ibb.co/kcKFc7C/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/ggyCg2K)
https://roblescharmen.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/history-of-diamond-rings/

https://i.ibb.co/CwX8m74/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/sgDRbwc)

https://i.ibb.co/tJT2qJc/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/1mtXrmK)
https://i.ibb.co/C7pdhKh/Screenshot-2.png (https://ibb.co/vPC5Z4Z)
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/world/africa/25iht-diamond.4.5017895.html



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Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: as9ardia on August 07, 2019, 03:09:36 PM
Their Whitepaper #Introduction Section looks similar with Facebook post from Chandlee Jewelers Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/ChandleeJewelers/photos/a.285899414760901/1495171070500390/)

https://i.imgur.com/IAEEdpG.png | https://i.imgur.com/nHfRH0R.png


Title: Re: [Suspicious link removed] - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: skulomania on August 09, 2019, 03:29:37 AM
100% probability it is another scam project from those group of scammers that lurks in this forum.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: kerhso on August 20, 2019, 01:30:28 PM
It seems they eventually updated their White Paper to avoid plagiatrism


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: rhomelmabini on August 20, 2019, 03:31:36 PM
It seems they eventually updated their White Paper to avoid plagiatrism
No worries about it as @tvplus006 secures to archived every piece of evidence that the project is not to be trusted. That's apparent for a scam project nothing to be surprised for, just avoid them.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 20, 2019, 06:07:53 PM
It seems they eventually updated their White Paper to avoid plagiatrism

Recently, all scammers have been doing such things. They should understand that if for the first time the project was caught cheating. The second attempt will not fix the situation. Otherwise, forgiving them, we ourselves become accomplices of criminals. Helping them to bring their deception to the highest quality.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: logfiles on August 21, 2019, 01:51:23 PM
It seems they eventually updated their White Paper to avoid plagiatrism

That won't help them at all. Getting exposed the first time prove that they were scammers looking to deceive investors here. It's up to people now to do due diligence before send their money to them. All the information about their unprofessional conduct has at least been documented here.

Those who are wise will not even send a cent.


Title: Re: [Suspicious link removed] - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: kartikb on August 29, 2019, 07:24:29 AM
Also their IEO on LA Token exchange. Why LA Token exchange doing such things, I think this exchange also a scam.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: tvplus006 on August 29, 2019, 09:59:15 AM
Also their IEO on LA Token exchange. Why LA Token exchange doing such things, I think this exchange also a scam.
They just want to make money listing ICOINs. This will end badly for Latoken. Latoken can repeat the Crex24 path that Scam Accusations received: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126620.0 Crex24 also listed ICOs that are recognized by Scam here.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: icoininternational on June 15, 2020, 11:17:26 PM
Dear Bitcointalk  forum members,

We would like to clarify, that iCoin International is not a scam.

It is true that we have had some bad experiences in regards to having parts of our Whitepaper edited by the wrong people. This was an oversight that we will ensure never happens again.

We would like to apologize if this has caused any alarm for the ICO community.


Furthermore, we provide any interested investors the chance to meet the team, see their credentials and if they wish, they may even see the mining license, the mining rights or any other documents, in order to verify our legitimacy as a real company. (Some viewing documents may require you to sign an NDA + provide KYC)

We can guarantee that every single member of our team is legit. Feel free to contact us and convince yourselves.


Our mining operations are underway and we are still selling tokens, in order to finance our operations. In 2-3 days a whitepaper with all details will be released. Please look forward to our near future exchange listings and airdrops!


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: logfiles on June 16, 2020, 11:51:07 AM
Our mining operations are underway and we are still selling tokens, in order to finance our operations. In 2-3 days a whitepaper with all details will be released. Please look forward to our near future exchange listings and airdrops!

So it took you almost over a year to just respond to the accusation? Why now?

How do you even pay someone to make for you a whitepaper without any content about your project? It's like telling a secretary to make for you, your résumé without any information, and they just go around the internet copying and pasting.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: icoininternational on June 16, 2020, 08:22:52 PM
Our mining operations are underway and we are still selling tokens, in order to finance our operations. In 2-3 days a whitepaper with all details will be released. Please look forward to our near future exchange listings and airdrops!

So it took you almost over a year to just respond to the accusation? Why now?

How do you even pay someone to make for you a whitepaper without any content about your project? It's like telling a secretary to make for you, your résumé without any information, and they just go around the internet copying and pasting.


We have since then hired more people to help us with ICO supervision and community support. This way we can concentrate on both the mining operations and the ICO processes. We feel secure in restarting the ICO soon. Our mining operations / sole mining rights have not been affected in any way by this mishap.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: logfiles on June 18, 2020, 08:16:55 PM
We have since then hired more people to help us with ICO supervision and community support. This way we can concentrate on both the mining operations and the ICO processes. We feel secure in restarting the ICO soon. Our mining operations / sole mining rights have not been affected in any way by this mishap.
Unfortunately this is the Internet. You can't just earn trust back just like that after making people doubt you from the very first time when showed up with a plagiarized whitepaper. It might look like a minor issue to you but most scammers have in the past used the same tactic of plagiarized white papers and Fake team photos. That's why you were tagged by DT members.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: icoininternational on June 19, 2020, 02:27:32 AM
We have since then hired more people to help us with ICO supervision and community support. This way we can concentrate on both the mining operations and the ICO processes. We feel secure in restarting the ICO soon. Our mining operations / sole mining rights have not been affected in any way by this mishap.
Unfortunately this is the Internet. You can't just earn trust back just like that after making people doubt you from the very first time when showed up with a plagiarized whitepaper. It might look like a minor issue to you but most scammers have in the past used the same tactic of plagiarized white papers and Fake team photos. That's why you were tagged by DT members.

We understand the situation. However, we also are willing to prove our authenticity with hard evidence. I hope the forum will come to understand this was a blunder which we will do everything to make right again. Please reconsider after looking at the evidence.

To be clear: The facts about the project were not wrong. All essential information about the project was correct. But when it came to the less essential information, we just did not expect the writer to take such unprofessional liberties. Again, this should not have happened. This will not happen again. The responsible party will be held accountable.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: stompix on June 19, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
We understand the situation. However, we also are willing to prove our authenticity with hard evidence.

Good, then start with proving those are real:

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Roadmap:
2019 Q4
Machinery acquisition
Site preparation
Workforce mobilization
River diverting
Extraction kickoff

As for the pictures which are obviously photoshopped you can clear that up with one pic of all the staff holding their hands with a big ICOIN sign.
I pretty much doubt you're going to do any of them, I've seen enough ICO scams with gold and diamond and silver to actually get bored with them.


Title: Re: ICOIN.WS - Plagiarized Whitepaper
Post by: icoininternational on June 23, 2020, 09:29:34 PM
We understand the situation. However, we also are willing to prove our authenticity with hard evidence.

Good, then start with proving those are real:



Proof that iCoin International is legitimate:

Team KYC:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172796.msg54851518#msg54851518

proof of working operations: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172796.msg54794856#msg54794856[/b][/u]


If you wish to see the uncensored versions of the FULL MINING AGREEMENT CONTRACTS, LICENSES and TEAM KYC then you will need to sign a legal NDA and provide your own KYC.

We hope this earns some of your trust back. We also hope to see you onboard as investors.

Have a nice day.

-iCoin International[/b]