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Title: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: TheWolf666 on August 13, 2019, 07:15:31 PM
https://kryptofranc.com/img/clinton-epstein.jpg

Someone will have to explain why when you type "Clinton Epstein" in google, the first two answers are photos with Trump? Clinton is not even on the pictures? Where is the impartiality? Where are the smart algorithms? The face recognition? It can not be a coincidence.


Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: Raja_MBZ on August 13, 2019, 10:40:19 PM
The images section of Google search engine is prioritizing the following two articles on your search keyword of "clinton epstein photo", and the search results look quite relevant to the search keywords if you ask me:

Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, explained (https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton)

From Clinton To Trump: The Powerful Men In Jeffrey Epstein's Orbit (https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/07/237389/jeffrey-epstein-friends-involved-sex-trafficking)

Both of these results include the keywords you entered, so I don't think that Google is trying to manipulate the results here. The problem is with the websites (Vox (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/64693635/Screen_Shot_2019_07_08_at_8.51.48_PM.7.png) and Refinery29 (https://s2.r29static.com//bin/entry/9fd/340x408,85/2216703/from-clinton-to-trump-the-2216703.webp)), for choosing a photo of their articles with only Trump in it. If these websites replace those images with new ones, Google will start showing you those.


Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: TheWolf666 on August 14, 2019, 06:28:46 AM
The images section of Google search engine is prioritizing the following two articles on your search keyword of "clinton epstein photo", and the search results look quite relevant to the search keywords if you ask me:

Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, explained (https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton)

From Clinton To Trump: The Powerful Men In Jeffrey Epstein's Orbit (https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/07/237389/jeffrey-epstein-friends-involved-sex-trafficking)

Both of these results include the keywords you entered, so I don't think that Google is trying to manipulate the results here. The problem is with the websites (Vox (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/64693635/Screen_Shot_2019_07_08_at_8.51.48_PM.7.png) and Refinery29 (https://s2.r29static.com//bin/entry/9fd/340x408,85/2216703/from-clinton-to-trump-the-2216703.webp)), for choosing a photo of their articles with only Trump in it. If these websites replace those images with new ones, Google will start showing you those.

Yes absolutely, the websites are kind of playing with keywords and titles.... however, Google is using face recognition to rank these articles...the choice of these articles at the top is not coincidence in my opinion.


Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: odolvlobo on August 16, 2019, 12:03:03 AM
Beyond the text of the search, Google also bases the results on your search and site history. If you frequently visit sites mentioning Trump or do searches related to Trump, your search for "Clinton Epstein" is likely to include results related to Trump.



Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 19, 2019, 11:44:38 PM
The images section of Google search engine is prioritizing the following two articles on your search keyword of "clinton epstein photo", and the search results look quite relevant to the search keywords if you ask me:

Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, explained (https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton)

From Clinton To Trump: The Powerful Men In Jeffrey Epstein's Orbit (https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/07/237389/jeffrey-epstein-friends-involved-sex-trafficking)

Both of these results include the keywords you entered, so I don't think that Google is trying to manipulate the results here. The problem is with the websites (Vox (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/64693635/Screen_Shot_2019_07_08_at_8.51.48_PM.7.png) and Refinery29 (https://s2.r29static.com//bin/entry/9fd/340x408,85/2216703/from-clinton-to-trump-the-2216703.webp)), for choosing a photo of their articles with only Trump in it. If these websites replace those images with new ones, Google will start showing you those.

Yes absolutely, the websites are kind of playing with keywords and titles.... however, Google is using face recognition to rank these articles...the choice of these articles at the top is not coincidence in my opinion.
Unless you're using an actual image to search for other images, I don't think google is using any sort of facial recognition.  What makes you think otherwise?  I could be wrong (not an SEO expert), but can't find anything about it.

There's a lot of outrage among Republicans regarding google and social media sites having a liberal bias.  Some of it is justified, but, in my opinion, most of it, including google searches, is not.  This is causing a lot of confirmation bias, which I think is the case in your example.


Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: philipma1957 on August 20, 2019, 03:49:26 AM
Both presidents hung out with him at times.  Both presidents have been know to like the ladies.

Should you see Clinton first yeah.

  But try yahoo search
Try bing search
Along with google.
Do it on a real pc
Do it on a mobile piece of gear.

So mobile unit and pc is a factor of 2

And three search engines is a factor of 3. Six test samples .  I wonder what the six will show.


Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: iamsheikhadil on August 21, 2019, 04:13:33 AM
Google is too big of a company to seriously sit behind computers manipulating stuffs like these lmao. They have better things to do like spreading awareness about climate change and stuffs :P

Google uses algorithms and ranks websites based on people's past searches and trends including past searches.

I don't think Google would do this just to be a prick on Trump's chest lmao.


Title: Re: Google search anti-Trumps obvious manipulation
Post by: xtraelv on August 23, 2019, 01:49:03 PM
The Epstein - Clinton relationship is often touted by Trump and Trump officials. Trump has tweeted and re-tweeted it. That results in search hits.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-official-clinton-conspiracy-theory-epstein-death-870106/

https://www.alternet.org/2019/08/trump-retweets-conspiracy-theory-claiming-bill-clinton-killed-jeffrey-epstein/

There also appear to be more media photos of Epstein and Trump than of Epstein and Clinton so when you do a search it looks for maximum different image matches.


Clinton on the other hand hasn't communicated (to my knowledge) about the Epstein - Trump relationship.