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Basically the subjects brings whole idea. Would you trust / use signals to trade? What is really useful in trading according to your opinion?

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Signals... Does it really work? Never tried?

No.

Much better to depend my decision on my own understanding and experience rather than depend with others signals. You can either get rekt at the end if you're too late with those signals.

I've never been a fan of signals and I likely never will subscribe to any paid signals nor use free signals anytime in the future. Most of the signal groups I've seen advertised around places like here and Twitter claim exaggerated rates of success and gains, and I'd much rather use whatever the cost of a 'decent' monthly paid signals group is towards trading using my own knowledge and TA.

They actually can work sometimes, but the risk:reward ratio is definitely very bad. If you're using signals to trade, especially with those low cap altcoins, you're just merely helping the group/service owner to get rich. The signal provider is simply dumping on his/her/their followers.

I mean, if trading through signals was THAT easy and THAT effective, everyone would be rich. But there's no such thing as easy money. You want to trade? Learn how to trade yourself.

I've been following some of them in the past, and based on my experiences, it can work but maybe only 1 out of 10 chance. Learning how to use technical indicators give you better result instead of following trading signals blindly.

That said, I still follow one of a channel that shares a price analysis and his setup for trading because as far as it goes, this dude gets it right most of the times. But he's not doing it to get payment, just for fun. He gets rekt sometimes too.

I don't trust those signals, although when I got that signal, I always research by myself to find my best time to enter the market. It is hard to trust the other people's signals because I have a bad experience in the past following my friend signal, and I don't want to get the same experience. I can accept the risk if somehow the price is run out of my expectation and from what I got from the other people. So after I got the experience, I decide to use the signal to find out the right price for me, and gladly, I can get the best price for me so I can sell with my price.

Yes, I am very important the signal. The signal for me is more effective than the price graph.
because the nature of the crypto market is the manipulation of coins. That is why the signals always reflect the right direction of the coins.

It depends on what kind of signals they are - I'd research signals of group couple times and if prc of success is good then I'll continue looking for it. I am following one small group on telegram now - what I like is that they are giving signals which they do also and they have no private groups vips etc, and as I understand they do not plan them. @hyipleaks on telegram :)

I've spent whole day checking their (@hyipleaks) signals and they seem to be true. And I guess I understand how they do it. I mean where they take signals  ;D

well the main thing is that they are quite true :D I personally do not care are those signals their or not, if they are giving profits

Sure it works. The question is, who makes money? The group owner does. The followers who are tricked into this scheme are the reason why the group owner makes money in the first place. This scheme wouldn't work without suckers following their "signals".

it depends on how many users do you have in the group, if there is less than 1k followers, not sure they can impact the market

It also completely depends on what the market cap, liquidity, and trading volume of a certain coin is. A few people and a decent amount of money can easily skyrocket a coin/token that barely anyone trades. I know this from first hand experience. Joined some pump group for funsies in the past just to read what people are saying in such a group.

My thought about signal services is that, it is the work of somebody either hard work or otherwise. It is someone who has produced the signal either in video or print. I should work hard on my own to build a style I can believe on. No perfect trader, my believe.

Don't trust them.

Use your own technical analysis skills.

Basically signals are the combination of technical statistics and the news of crypto market but this isn't affect the market when no one to support that signal with huge volume to trade.

How often have you used these signals and which signal provider do you use?

Can you show us a print screen of your results using these signals? Because honestly, I don't understand how these signals work, I spent hours researching to try to understand why the hell someone who can predict would sell this information? Because if he can predict the price accurately, then he can easily be a very rich man. It's something I can't understand

Yeah they do work for some people (the insiders/signal givers of course), but for the third person who's trying it out, you're likely to be rekt. Trading based on signals is quite dangerous so don't joke with it.

I’m using few telegram and discord groups. The guys analyze and give quite satisfying signals. Also the teach how to find info and analyze news and graphs. In my case, its not helping. I just dont get it. Probably it is not for everyone.

Most of the time , the signals are more wrong than being right if relied on. You can fine tune the signals though if there are things you pick out from it.

Trading crypto by definition is dangerous - mostly unregulated market with pump possibilities etc. is dangerous. What I think is that signals can give you some more information and the point is that you make a decision by your head. So they can be useful if you do not follow them blindly but think also. And then signals become a very good asistant

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I would never buy one because majority of the ones I have tested has been a failure and makes me feel that those giving the signals also are just doing guessing work. Those signal groups too are just giving the signal on 50:50 chances, although majority off the ones that I have tried using are free ones, but they also have the paid signals, if their trial signal is not working, how can I then trust the ones that are paid for?

It is better that I just learn to personally develop my own skills that will make me learn how to produce my own signals, better I work with my skill, my strategies and my instinct than to work with another person’s own, or better still, we can still get those signals, then briefly run a check on it too before we apply it, but we must have also had some level of understanding of it.

I don't like to follow the signal majority pumping group are false prediction losses member in the group, open trade play to order multiple tokens basically needed basic knowledge to manage trade You will be wrong if you tell someone because you do not understand well and nobody will teach you anything at all. If you find a good teacher that will be very good for you.

I tried observing what they so-called crypto signals and I just wasted a lot of time being there. They really don't start right to begin with they'll always bombard you with this "premium/guaranteed signals" that has of course with a payment but if you get inside it will be the same thing and they'll always ask you to join another group that has "guaranteed" success. There is really no analysis going on just entry and exit points which if you observe isn't even right, what I mean about that is after observing the prices the prediction they said on that cryptocurrency didn't happen at all. It's either that or you join a group that they say are a "crypto signals" group but it's just a pump and dump group. 

Never!

Didnt trust any of these groups ever since but i didnt able to join up some groups just for observations.They dont offer something special and just posting up
entry point and exit points without clear analysis towards it.Suggesting shitcoins with low caps and make you believe that it would be pumped up and this is where these group owners do make money where there are greedy newbie fools that do believe and bought in or follow on whats being suggested.

I  fully understand and agree with you. And here's why. You say wise things because you are smarter than me and I mean it.  :) Once I have bought few subscriptions to signals and news. Don't do same - use them for free. I've got a channel where me and my bros provide significant crypto news and signals. We are very young so far and so the channel is same. We are not ICO guys  :D - we want to bring some good and value to people.



Bro, I tried but as it is not about the good teacher - it's rather a bad student.  :D I don't have much patience to learn figures and patterns. I tried and I know some of them. As guoyu78 stated, you need to work for your own also and have your style. I want to believe I do have my style. But I would refuse you to join my channel unless I had partners (Bros  :) ).


You're my man! I went through all this. Are you familiar with situation when you buy and it goes down and vice versus? That was me with these signals!  :D It's a matter of experience, if I may use that word. :)

What if not to follow but watching and analyzing? Also it is hard to follow all the news and be in the picture of everything. You can use twitter but you usually trade with lots of pairs on several exchanges. It is so hard to follow even Twitter and even if you use tools like cryptopanic.com. IMHO  :)

Trading Signals will not help you gain profits in the long run, most specially those who asks for monthly fees. They will give you signals for you to buy a coin or token but they already positioned themselves before you buy. So those who read the signal late and buy, they are buying an expensive coin already and they might end up trapped holding an expensive coin or token.

Don't be lazy in learning how to trade. Learn to read charts, learn to use tools. Follow successful traders and learn from their trades.   

No. I'd rather use my own instincts.
Those signals are also just created by groups.
You will really trust your money to some people who also just used their instincts and feed it to you?
It could also be just their guess or if they got lazy they just put something there without knowledge.

I see your point, but

• I already own lifetime subscription
• I do have (developed) instincts and I'm not alone

First thing is to watch and try signals and news. Then use it in your own strategies.




I don't trust money to anyone and I don't want other people money. All I mean is just a tool. :)

I hope they are not going to run away and close in the near future since you already signed up for a lifetime membership. I'm not going to lie, I do subscribed to free trading signals but I don't rely on them 100%. I use them as a reference as to what coins will be pumped by a group. Nice to know that you developed your instincts, pair that up with knowledge in using trading tools that will give you a better chance to be successful in trading.

You are Legandary guy and very sceptical one, but this guy is trying to say he bought some subscriptions, i.e. these are not free ones. Moreover he's givin em for free. Can I have a look? I'm interested.

Indeed. Newcomers in crypto need as more advices as possible. There's a lot of info rubbish, but I believe we are doing something good with our channel (https://t.me/hyipleaks).  :)

well now I am subscribed on couple groups which give info AND signals, because it saves time. I'm on yours already, I think so far it works very good, I hope you guys continue like that! Your news are good and useful, very often they are real signals, not the signals by their own :D

I see it only a group of people or someone who is trying to influence the minds of other traders to do what is suggested, what is suggested may be true but does not rule out the opposite.
It would be better if you make your own decisions and try to continue to learn to be a trader who can see the market situation well, so that it can minimize losses, which in turn experience will be the best teacher.

I wouldn't trust or use any crypto signals to trade this days because most crypto signal group out there are providing the wrong signals which sends investors to their grave and it always better to study to understand TA and the decision on your own rather trusting in a group which are for pump and dump.

You can trust them with one note you have to know the concept of trading or the whole strategy of trading especially trading crypto. So, when you follow the trading signal you will compare the analyst form trading signal and also with your analyst.

Don't be fool, if they who made a trading signal is have 90% accurate to gain profit then I'm sure they will not sell it with a cheaply even with zero cost. Most of them are scammer IMO, I had taken part with trading signal on telegram group when I was newbie but I got nothing from it. Be smart when you have money for investing or trading on this place, there is no one which you must obey completely.

Well, it that to be close. Of course, I don't give any to the others...remember this is a competition and it gonna be our advantage to the other players.
I'm not really interested to hear any words coming from Warren Buffet, he is nonsense and can't be trusted anymore. Looking back how he gives false statement against crypto, all just a FUDs.

you're talking like you're working in crypto with mio's :DDDDDDD

It's usually 50/50 with those signals. Personally, I don't use signals for trading. I have heard good results from close associates that used them. I've also heard negative reports. It's advisable to do your research with due diligence. That works for me.

Sorry, bro, you are wrong. Just wrong. How about joining the channel and just watch it. http://t.me/hyipleaks (http://t.me/hyipleaks)

Hey, I've seen this dozens of times. Guys trying to do smth real good but they fail to develop due to lack of audience. Do you promote yourselves? I'm in your channel. I like the news you do. How about short bounty campaigns? You need people to speak about you.

You’re scaring me, bro. Are you a Wanga or smth?  ;)

Dont trust any crypto signal group because its usually a pump and dump momentum the only people who can get a huge amount of money is the admin of the group so stay away from that kind of group if you want to trade then learn how its work.

Yes, it is a very common case. Do you think it (signals and news) is useless even from pure analytics point of view?

Not all the time signal works. I knew someone who paid $100 to join a signal group, he lose all his funds. Eager to gain huhe profits but opposite thing happen to him. It's not 100% accurate. We can trade successfully even without crypto signals. Most reliable technical analysis , good timing and making a stop loss. That's the essential keys and do not just waste money to those signal groups.

Yes, signals are very important for trading. On twitter there is a channel about signal of whale, when there are big BTC or USDT transfers, it will announce on it and based on that, we can know the direction of the market in about half a day.
I usually trade on signals and it's quite effective.

I tried twice but never really worked. Good thing I learned my lesson.
Do not go to that path. Just simply make your own analysis.
Better not rely onn someone else and just use them as pointers.
A lot of those signals are just scams and are having a hard time to earn money or just some lazy scums.

Do me a favor. Do not be the next victim.

Correct self decision and own understanding is the best way to earn profits in trading, I tried once to join in the telegram crypto trading signal group tips isn't worthy because sometimes I'll trap meaning isn't exactly perfect the tips from signal group expert and sadly I pay huge to the group to get signal tips. So the result is equally so get earn with nothing.

Basically no.

I have joined in this stupid signals already and paid a few bucks on it just to join. What I observed is when they will tell a signal of a coin to buy and you will go and buy it, it is already going up already and  you are late for buying. Its better if you learn trading yourself. Professional traders right now didn't use signals to be a pro. They spent several months learning and if you really want to be a successful one, do what pro traders did.

Honestly, I have not seen too many people posting success stories when it comes to signals for anything not just Crypto. I would say better to go with Crypto Analysis (https://cryptolinks.com/cryptocurrency-news-aggregator) or for that matter analysis for anything. The logic here is that you at least have a reason behind doing something, instead of blindly doing what’s there with signals. But of course, this is just my personal experience and opinion, if someone has succeeded via Signals, I will just say good job. But my suggestion again would be something that has logic not blind fold thing.

Well that's how this kind 'signal' work actually , yeah by fooling people around , making money out of them and laugh behind. I do believe there's no honest paid trading signal ... a professional one could simply share the info about how they predict the market freely but they choose to monetize it and there you go born a product called 'trading signals' , prediction is just a prediction i think ... noone can verify how accuratr it is.

The thing that i can say about the trading signal is that those people who looking for a signal just desperate to make profit , there's no hardwork in it , smells like wanting an instant profit but i won't call them foolish that's your choice  ;D

Several months ago i was subscribe signal trading channel for free but i had decide to leave that channel because the results of profit from them is not so different such as mine and in my view signal trading only have 50% percentages or less to get profit that's why i always be avoid paid trading signal because there is no guarantee the profit would be good and regardless all of it i think as a trader we have to confident to our own skill rather than rely on signal trading or similar of it

This is true but most people specially new ones are really lazy to learn up things gradually in result they do like reaching out things on fast pace where they do end up on joining to these so-called groups.Just to think closely that if these group owners are already profitable they wont already give out their time to share it with other users and make out money for themselves without dragging people with their strategy and with that logic alone you can really say that these people offering paid signals or premium ones or groups arent really true.
This is a good realization and a true example that people who do have experience on this one do give out their significant feedback regarding to these groups.
On my situation i havent experience on joining any groups because i know that i can make my own trading style which is profitable.It might not be big but somehow
sustainable for longer runs and theres no need to depend on others information just to make money.Its always been worth if you do learn from your own hard work.

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I never trusted such signals or beleived they could actually help to improve the profit. Your experience obviously confirms that. If someone has found the receipe how to make the profit I don't think it would so generously share it with others. To my opinion this is just another way to get money from the crypto users for the service they actually don't need.

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Okay here we are again.You do ask the community about the interest of these signals but it turns out that you are offering something on here which isn't surprising.

Good thing that you do advised that people shouldn't invest.The coin you had suggested might pumped and prove out to people that it did rise but wont really be that enough to convince.

I have dealt with crypto signals more than once. As a rule, the more professional the trader, the less time he will spend on broadcasting signals, this is what my experience taught me.
If you still decide, then I advise you to look for traders who can confirm the statistics of their successful transactions.

Any successful stories / cases about such types of signals?

Sure. Please check, double check and tripple check our signals before investing a single 1$. We don't do money on signals. We investigate, analyze, use our colleagues signals and give them for free. We don't want to abuse or fraud anyone. Just be our friends, supporters, followers or haters.  :) And nope, it is not ads thread cause we want to make it separate one with nice pictures.


This is true. With all my respect to professional traders, let me compare them with Traffic Manager that found a combination of settings in Google/Facebook ads. He learnt a lot, he was changing combinations, people interests, geographics and finaly he found it. All he needs to do now is not to spoil the party. ;D You might hear them saying they always improve their campaigns, but in reality these guys pray it would last a bit longer and longer. IMHO!  ;D

At the same time, majority of traders are not professional ones. So here we are.



We just started. But have a look in our channel. We usually do post-factum posts after we give signals. Not all signals give rapid ROI. Sometimes you need to play mid-term game.

For us, signal is just an information. The same as news or pressrelease. Before selling your house, car and kids and bet all in, analyze it. If it so called "inside info", well, it's up to you to decide. Try 10% from your deposit. We already wrote a short article about Hyip Tips (https://twitter.com/HyipLeaks/status/1164123085009760256). Some of these advices can be used in signals and generally in trading. We have few friendly colleagues with communities. Therefore if the signal is being given, there are lots of people who will be using it and pumping the price. But still, it is up to decide whether to play it or not. DYOR!

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Before I have been following other groups signal to trade but it turns out for me not good because of having late during trading. Much better do on your own or depends on you on analyzing the market situation. Well it is depend on a person on which suits his needs to trade by having a crypto signals.

Following isnt really that bad if you do know on how to do your own part like making some research about verifying such position.
No one can predict on how the market moves but somehow we can make some prediction which is closely to make profits if its done well.
Listening out or joining to groups isnt really that compulsory or needed yet you can make your own analysis.

I regret having crypto signals based on experience, that's too bad for me last 2017. With the strong mindset I failed to sell my long term holds which had profitable gains, if ever I was smart enough that time. Because of too much expectations on my holdings to obtain great value, frustrations came in when sudden price fall down very low.

True, many of signals get to audience already are olddated, cause admins enter them in advance. But nothing stops you from watching. There will be a good signal forth coming Monday. We wrote about it in our Twitter (https://twitter.com/HyipLeaks/status/1167769552584941568).

P.S. Last time we gave signal, we did ~4%. No big deal, not a huge investment and ROI, but still good.

Hey boys, i know a great group mycryptoparadise.com is sharing crypto signals for free! Try them out, they helped me a lot

The crypto signal group is all bullshit, no one really gives an accurate signal. I have several times joined a group like that and I have never benefited, only losses that I can.

In order to grow in trading, signal trading is not the only way for you to do that. There are a lot of methods on how will you earn more profit in trading, and maybe most of us are really knowledgeable about that. This topic is already repeated so many times, but we will help you to have some ideas other than signal trading. Improving your technical analysis is always effective but not that 100% give you profit that you desire. Doing technical analysis will help you have some basis regarding the strategies and predictions that you are going to perform in your future transactions. The concept of technical analysis is not that hard when you try day trading and signal trading.

That's what you should learn about trading, not all techniques and strategies are effective especially that you only rely on those signals. That mistake that you had performed will really make you know the disadvantages of using signal trading.

There are really a fraud signals that will make you lose your asset that's why you should not rely on that.

It is really hard to trust those signal providers as some of them are not that trustworthy enough to risk your asset to try their signals. Accepting trading signals should not be the only choice or option that you choose every time you want to make transactions. Sometimes you also need to study it with yourself to know if it really came from a professional trader.

If you are talking about random signals from Facebook and telegram group, I will suggest you should not rely on it because I've been a victim when I started trading. The admins have numerous groups that they use to pump coin and they use member as bait. The buy token before announcing the signal which makes the price to go up while they sell of when the price goes up. My advice is to rely on your own research. Make use of large exchange with many active traders and learn to read and understand chart

All signals and predictions should be took as informative only, never trust random signals with your entire stash, and some people do exactly that. Even paid signals are tricky, you can try them but even the good ones have maximum 80% succeful rate.
I will support your words, do your own research, check what others are saying and make your own call, it's the best to learn to trade like that, to rally on yourself mostly, not on others.

Im not really that sure when someone do claim out some success percentage when it comes to signals yet i do treat it from time to time to be on 50-50% chance it would neither succeed or fail from time to time.

I dont see any difference with free or paid ones thats why its totally bullshit for someone to pay up some money just for them to get those kind of premium tips or whatsoever.

Its just right that you can see others analysis but doesnt mean that you would be completely rely on it and as a deciding factor into your own trade.Always make on our own because in case the trade didnt go well but at

least we do know that it is our own error and not a regrettable thing to be felt.

That is true and I have been warning people never to trust these signals unless they come from a verified and credible source they mean nothing. Still, we do see lots of people try to promote and sell their scammy signal services on this community and when we are not fighting against them through any initiative, I am afraid that they may keep attempting here and innocent and newbie traders may fall into their traps.

People spam a lot of telegram that they have great signals and profit history but imagine why would someone share their signals with you and if they do thy should rather have a website and proper proofs to back their claims overall.


Just to promote your website and shilling for them you bumped a very old thread out of context. (Unfortunately this is not the first time I do see this kind of behavior which means warning nor temp. ban are not serving its purposes, it seems).

Making use of signals in trading, you should have a second thought about that. I don’t like these groups. I don’t know for other people, maybe it works for them. There are only few crypto trading signal groups that will actually be legit and it may be hard for you to find them, because the fake ones are littered everywhere and they are what you’re likely to come across.

There are free signal groups, and what I hate about these ones is that they just throw out signals without giving it a thought. Lol Maybe I shouldn’t blame them, it’s something they are doing for free, since they not being paid for it, they will just do whatever they want to do.

Some of these crypto signal groups are decent, some of them are not. Here's a nice comparison of some of the best groups: https://www.reddit.com/user/Valiant_Crypto_22/comments/175au6b/crypto_signals_the_best_providers_ranked/

yes signals can be trusted but not from everyone because we don't have any information that provider is true or not but experts can give accurate signals. Without knowing about the group from which you have getting signals and also have no information regarding manager of the group then first collect knowledge from your fellows that are they really trustworthy or not.

There are so many groups that are creating wrong concepts in newbies as a result of which newbies says bad about trading and investment but they don't know the fact that the provider don't have any knowledge and is spreading wrong signals among crypto users. I know one cannot start trading by himself so it will be better to take help from signals but after investigation about it and then if you know the reality and learn trading mechanism then avoid trading signals because it will not be useful for you as you will pay money to get signals whether you win or loss.

I think it depends on the type of signal and where it comes from:

• Long-term signals, for example for the next 3 months, usually reflect the trend and are quite suitable for planning strategies. These signals usually rely heavily on the past and cover classic periods of weakness (weak prices in September, the period after a BTC ATH, ...) well. Such signals are often issued by classic signal providers or analysis companies and are also very well researched.
  
• Short-term signals are 50% correct, so you can also flip a coin.

At best, I would not spend money on the signals. The former you learn automatically when you move in a market for a long time, for the latter the coin toss is definitely cheaper.

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By the way, I think signal groups are dangerous, e.g. on Telegram. There, usually only the operators of the group get rich ... But I don't think you're thinking about joining such groups.

I do not think that crypto signals will ever work for a customer. Crypto signals are not always accurate, and investors may lose money if they make decisions based on bad signals.Crypto signals can be expensive, especially for paid services. Some crypto signal providers may have conflicts of interest and may not always provide unbiased recommendations.

What's up with this newbie account popping up every now and then and creating same kind of topic. Listen OP, there's a lot of discussion going on this forum about this crypto signals. You might want to search before you make your own post. But I don't think you have the ability to search and learn from that so, let me tell you this.
Signals are not good nor bad. The way you use it could make it good or bad. The bad side of a crypto signal is that it's not always 100% accurate. By using it more frequently you will become dependent on it. You will learn nothing how to trade or what to do on the market movements. Basically you will rely on it if you keep using it but when it is gone you will have no knowledge no experience and nothing to continue your trading in the future.

The good side of trading signal or crypto signal is that it is not 100% accurate but sometimes you can actually see that the market moves the way it was predicted on the signal. You can use more than one signal provider and then compare all of them and when majority of them are hinting on one side you can take that side. But not to trade. When you are done comparing you should compare your own analysis with that. That way you can be sure that you are doing right. Or if you are going on the other direction then you can find your mistake and fix it.

Crypto signal should only be used as a guide or a learning method so that you can be a good trader in long run. When you are doing good in the present you should also think of the future. And in a successful future there is no crypto signal.