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Title: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: Vinet1985 on August 23, 2019, 07:56:50 AM
Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?  I want to buy an Antminer


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: sunsilk on August 23, 2019, 09:17:38 AM
Never heard about the website so I can't give more details about them and I've looked for several feedback about them but there's no result that validates their experience nor review with this website.

For mining related questions or about your interest with Antminer visit:  Mining  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=14.0) > Hardware (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0)


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: Jating on August 23, 2019, 11:04:52 AM
https://baturaminers.eu/?

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Registrant:
NOT DISCLOSED!
Visit www.eurid.eu for webbased WHOIS.

Onsite(s):
NOT DISCLOSED!
Visit www.eurid.eu for webbased WHOIS.

Registrar:
Name: Registrar.eu
Website: https://www.openprovider.com

Name servers:
ns39.inhostedns.org
ns19.inhostedns.com
ns29.inhostedns.net

https://whois.net/

I don't know why the guys are hiding though. For me this is a red flag because if you are a legit business then why are you not disclosing information here? it doesn't make sense to me.

Just go around the forum, you might find someone who are selling their hardware, just be sure to escrow so that you are safe.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: Potato Chips on August 23, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
They're a fraud, stay away!

Check the Contact Us (https://baturaminers.eu/contact-us/) page. Notice that the signage looks unnatural, not just the look and feel but the content too! yes, it's bc it's edited.
https://baturaminers.eu/storage/2019/08/office.png

This is the original (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/414471971936812708/)
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/19/43/a5/1943a50f28461e2f356d0e56440e9876.jpg

The VAT number is valid but whether it's really theirs is a different story cause there's no proof about that. The company name is just "BATURA LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY" not batura miners... I'm not saying it has to be exact but it creates a suspicion since I can just buy the baturaegirls.eu (https://www.whois.com/whois/baturaegirls.eu) domain, paste the VAT number on the site and pretend we're a registered egirl supplier in Poland. The same goes for batura fishing, batura sardines, baturahouses, etc... pretty easy to pretend.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: bL4nkcode on August 23, 2019, 11:48:01 PM
https://baturaminers.eu/?

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Registrant:
NOT DISCLOSED!
Visit www.eurid.eu for webbased WHOIS.

Onsite(s):
NOT DISCLOSED!
Visit www.eurid.eu for webbased WHOIS.

Registrar:
Name: Registrar.eu
Website: https://www.openprovider.com

Name servers:
ns39.inhostedns.org
ns19.inhostedns.com
ns29.inhostedns.net

https://whois.net/

I don't know why the guys are hiding though. For me this is a red flag because if you are a legit business then why are you not disclosing information here? it doesn't make sense to me.
Whois info doesn't matter since its free and most business's website use whoisguard.

The fact that Potato Chips mentioned is so true, now stay away from them. Scammers are everywhere.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: jebentas on August 24, 2019, 05:10:11 PM
I have rushed and I think i lost 900 bucks to them. There is no cure for stupidity.

THEY ARE SCAMMERS!


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: milewilda on August 25, 2019, 09:59:42 PM
They're a fraud, stay away!

Check the Contact Us (https://baturaminers.eu/contact-us/) page. Notice that the signage looks unnatural, not just the look and feel but the content too! yes,
Nice catch! I didnt even notice that company name on the wall was edited until you had provide the original image.It was reverted and tampered with their fake company name.

I have rushed and I think i lost 900 bucks to them. There is no cure for stupidity.

THEY ARE SCAMMERS!
Just to ask- Why you people do end up into these fraud miner sellers rather than going to legit ones like bitmain.com?


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: darklus123 on August 26, 2019, 06:33:55 AM
They're a fraud, stay away!

Check the Contact Us (https://baturaminers.eu/contact-us/) page. Notice that the signage looks unnatural, not just the look and feel but the content too! yes, it's bc it's edited.


That one is indeed a very good catch man, If I were the owner of that fake site I would probably fire the editor lol.  As you can see the editor left some red marks for some reason that makes it pretty convincing that it is really an edited picture.

https://i.ibb.co/FVcTZPX/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/4dCrvQ2)



Just to ask- Why you people do end up into these fraud miner sellers rather than going to legit ones like bitmain.com?

OP just registered recently, probably a member of them. I've been seeing this newbies a lot lately and I am really convinced that this is a pure marketing strategy because making new accounts here and posting a new thread is cost free.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: Jating on August 26, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
I have rushed and I think i lost 900 bucks to them. There is no cure for stupidity.

THEY ARE SCAMMERS!
Just to ask- Why you people do end up into these fraud miner sellers rather than going to legit ones like bitmain.com?
I think number reason is that you need to fall in line when buying in bitmain.com. They have a lot of back orders that need to fulfill. So you have to wait till bitmain tend to your order. So if you are in a rush others try to look at resellers such as this one.

Second, it's cheap as compare to bitmain. And I"m sure those scammers are telling that the equipment are readily available and can be shift anytime.

But yes, good catch by @Potato Chips. And even though they try to hide their website, evidence shows that they are indeed scammers, so stay away.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: hugeblack on August 26, 2019, 02:33:00 PM
Check the Contact Us (https://baturaminers.eu/contact-us/) page. Notice that the signage looks unnatural, not just the look and feel but the content too! yes, it's bc it's edited.

It is difficult to reveal that the picture is fake for ordinary people*, but for the expert eye it will be easy to find out, but how did you manage to identify the original image?

More:

 - Terms and Conditions Page (http://Terms and Conditions Page): This page is fake and it looks like it comes with the site template. https://www.jackandcharlie.be/disclaimer (https://www.jackandcharlie.be/disclaimer) & https://www.elnlondon.co.uk/pages/locations (https://www.elnlondon.co.uk/pages/locations)
 - Location[1]: This place is related to this site https://baturaminers.com

* The worrying thing is the direction of lighting but you need to focus.

[1]
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Batura sp. z.o.o. Ul. Wyszogrodzka 6/92 Warszawa 03-337 Mazowieckie , Poland


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: legendster on August 26, 2019, 10:18:31 PM
It is difficult to reveal that the picture is fake for ordinary people*, but for the expert eye it will be easy to find out, but how did you manage to identify the original image?

9 out of 10 times such sites reuse pictures that are flipped. So a flipped image searched through google would land you on similar pictures and it is easy to track from there.

Also, even an untrained eye can look at the picture and see how uncanny it looks - that is the uncanny effect of 3D renders. Very rarely can we achieve a realism that does not have that uncanny look.

I've been a 3D renderer for a long time and the most accurate rendition of archviz is traditionally done through VRay and these days through Corona and Arnold.

In this one's case, it was clear that this was a 3D rendered scene and that too doctored. Not that hard to spot.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: wig111 on September 02, 2019, 09:20:10 AM
I placed an order for about 1K on 11. august and payed with BTC.
The site and the orders are absolutely similar to BITMAIN.
Since that day my order is on status "Processing".

No respones via mail.

I am almost sure that i lost my money


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: LTU_btc on September 04, 2019, 09:33:44 AM
OP, are you owner of this website? Usually when Newbie comes here with question about random online shop which looks suspicious, I suspect that he is oener of website who trying to promote his website in such way.
And I can't understand why people are buying from such websites. Is these few bucks that you could save is worth all risks? Because most likely that you will lose all money instead of saving some. There is good phraze about it - greedy pays twice.


Title: Re: Has anyone bought in baturaminers.ue? Is it reliable?
Post by: Slow death on September 05, 2019, 01:17:39 PM
I placed an order for about 1K on 11. august and payed with BTC.
The site and the orders are absolutely similar to BITMAIN.
Since that day my order is on status "Processing".

No respones via mail.

I am almost sure that i lost my money

you definitely lost money

OP, are you owner of this website? Usually when Newbie comes here with question about random online shop which looks suspicious, I suspect that he is oener of website who trying to promote his website in such way.

I agree



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Contact Us

Contact Information
 Batura Sp. z.o.o.

VAT: PL5242883980

Ul. Podwale 13/15, 00-252 Warszawa, Poland.

Email: info@baturaminers.eu
Tel.: +48 732 080 911

https://i.imgur.com/8YZcrAj.png

Source: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Podwale+13,+00-252+Warszawa,+Pol%C3%B4nia/@52.2482955,21.0101847,3a,75y,228.18h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spRjDQK-5_5RPQeTZx8iGZQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DpRjDQK-5_5RPQeTZx8iGZQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D228.17708%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x471ecc659ac5cd27:0xfa03323e95f57004!8m2!3d52.2481729!4d21.0099589

I believe the phone number they posted on their website should not work

https://i.imgur.com/MOBhl4N.png