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Title: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on August 26, 2019, 03:27:51 PM

I know the NFL isn't extraordinarily popular on the forum so I thought I'd try to make a thread to kind of collect the thoughts of the few fans that are here, in my attempt to create Wall Order-esque environment. Which means anything goes but the primary focus is of course on things pertaining to the American National Football League.

Last season I ran a Super Bowl Poll (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094001.0) in which I correctly picked all 7 playoffs games, including the Super Bowl. I'm going to be picking one game a week and will run a poll for that particular game as well, but I have to add the caveat that I'm better at picking winners much later in the season. Early on, anything could happen, and its hard to gauge the strength of teams at the beginning of the season.

The season opener, set for Sept. 5th, 8:20 EST, and will feature the league's oldest rivalry, the Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears. Sportsbet.io currently has the line at -3.5 Bears, with the payout slightly in their favor (1.98x for Bears vs. 1.81 for Packers).

I suspect more money has been going to the Packers because they have a slight advantage traditionally in the matchup between the 2, but the Bears had a pretty stellar record last year (12-4) compared to the Packers (6-9-1). Several sportsbook have the line at exactly -3 Bears, which also explains the payout differential on Sportsbet.

For this game, its a tough call, but I'm going to with the Bears at -3. Its a home game for them, first game of the year, big rivalry, the crowd will be pissed if they lose. Rogers is one of the best QBs in the league but I think this will be the year that Trubisky really comes into his own -- he's only been around for 2 seasons. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the game outcome falls exactly on the line, with the Bears winning by 3, so taking that extra half point is kind of ballsy move.

Also, just for fun, here's Sportsbet's current Super Bowl winner odds, so we can reference how they shift over the course of the season.

https://i.imgur.com/3UB4ina.png

I never bet on Super Bowl odds this early in the season, but I will personally be rooting for the Rams, just as a public disclosure of interests...


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: DaveF on September 03, 2019, 11:30:23 AM
I just put in my vote for Green Bay.
Both are good teams, but in the preseason GB just seems more put together.
Can't really explain it, but in my mind they just seem a very small bit better.

Let's see what happens Thursday.

-Dave


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 05, 2019, 09:34:13 AM
I just put in my vote for Green Bay.
Both are good teams, but in the preseason GB just seems more put together.
Can't really explain it, but in my mind they just seem a very small bit better.

Let's see what happens Thursday.

-Dave

To be honest I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to the pre season this year. I got burned trying to bet on it a couple times last year, so this year I held off, knowing that the games are meaningless and who knows what jumble of reserves you'll get on the field at any given moment.

Normally I would have bet on the Packers in this situation, but I think the Bears are coming up and the Packers are headed down. Plus its a home game for the Bears, that's why I have to go with them.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: dantee1 on September 05, 2019, 03:04:01 PM
My vote goes to Chicago Bears for the obvious reason  :-\

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The Bears took a huge step forward last year under rookie coach Matt Nagy, going from 5-11 in 2017 to 12-4 in 2018. And a lot of that was attributable to the stellar play of the defense and late addition Khalil Mack. A lot is being made of the loss of defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, who took the Denver Broncos head coaching job.

Chuck Pagano is Fangio’s replacement and while he isn’t as widely regarded as Fangio, Pagano has lots of great players to work with, including Mack, Akiem Hicks, Roquan Smith and cornerbacks Kyle Fuller and Prince Amukamara.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 05, 2019, 03:28:32 PM
Wooo we are over 50 views total lol, i ain't complaining though i won't miss the spammy herd of shitposters one bit.

As for the game, as much as it pains me to say (teams i support and root for are Packers and the Seahawks) Green Bay have a very slim chance at winning this one. They had a great second-half comeback win in last season's opener but it was at home. Considering we only had 1 away win for the entire season with almost no notable additions on defense (- CLAY MATTHEWS), against one of the best defenses in the league, i expect nothing less than Aaron Rodgers getting sack after sack or getting rid of the ball early and often. Bears defense rough him up pretty bad last year.

The other obvious question mark for Green Bay is the new headcoach - Matt LaFleur and what type of plays is he going to run and if and whether Rodgers will stick with those or call his own. I just don't see it, plus it's a divisional game, Bears will win probably with more than 3pts.

Only way Packers win tonight is Bears' new kicker is as bad as Cody Parkey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIupDxlBSmE).  :D



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on September 05, 2019, 05:55:27 PM
Wooo we are over 50 views total lol, i ain't complaining though i won't miss the spammy herd of shitposters one bit.

As for the game, as much as it pains me to say (teams i support and root for are Packers and the Seahawks) Green Bay have a very slim chance at winning this one. They had a great second-half comeback win in last season's opener but it was at home. Considering we only had 1 away win for the entire season with almost no notable additions on defense (- CLAY MATTHEWS), against one of the best defenses in the league, i expect nothing less than Aaron Rodgers getting sack after sack or getting rid of the ball early and often. Bears defense rough him up pretty bad last year.

The other obvious question mark for Green Bay is the new headcoach - Matt LaFleur and what type of plays is he going to run and if and whether Rodgers will stick with those or call his own. I just don't see it, plus it's a divisional game, Bears will win probably with more than 3pts.

Only way Packers win tonight is Bears' new kicker is as bad as Cody Parkey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIupDxlBSmE).  :D


To add to all of this Aaron Rodgers did not took a single snap during the whole preseason and while many reasons were given about this I am a little bit worried that he is not 100%, and while he pulled a miracle on one leg during the last season against the bears we cannot really expect that to happen every week, however the bears have a new defensive coordinator and while he is good we do not know if he is going to exploit all the talent that he has at his disposal, so when I take everything in consideration I will give this game to the bears.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 05, 2019, 09:06:57 PM
My guess is on the bears.  First off home field is extremely important, and 2 aaron rodgers if I remember correctly hasn't had a td pass against them last year in chicago.  Not that last year determines this year but that chicago d is for real.  Should be a fun game either way


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on September 05, 2019, 09:44:13 PM
I don't follow NFL recently but despite of the bad preseason results from the Chicago Bears I still think they'll win against the Packers. With that said, I have a bet on Bears -3.5 I would take -3 if sportsbet have it but they rarely offer spreads without the half point. Packers is also a strong team that have the potential to do an upset but i'm slightly biased because of the Bears having the better results from last season.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 06, 2019, 09:28:26 AM
Well, it would appear we were all wrong  :-\  except for Dave and the other 2 people who voted for Green Bay in the poll!   Good job Dave F.

Here's what we have going on this Sunday:

https://i.imgur.com/M5Q7pMs.png

I'm going to have to do some research before deciding on anything for sure, but immediately I like the Rams at -2.5 over the Panthers.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 06, 2019, 12:01:01 PM
Yeah I was off on that one.  Surprised the bears put up such a poor offensive performance, trubisky looked like a rookie quarterback out there.  My pick for this weekend would be the jets at home -2.5, I also like Kansas city -3.5 at Jacksonville.  Probably will go 0-2 but those are my 2 picks


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: TheRealWiseInvestor on September 06, 2019, 12:23:06 PM
My nfl picks for week 1

Packers +3 won

Dolphins +7
Buffalo ML
Panthers ML
Bengals +9.5
Lions -2.5
Giants +7.5
49ers ML
Broncos -2




Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 06, 2019, 09:50:13 PM
I voted Packers too, even though with my comment i was trashing their defense and Rodgers himself. It's funny how a single deep throw and a three-minute drive touchdown can change completely the momentum of the game.

Browns -51/2 is my pick for Sunday, call me a bandwagoner but i really like Baker Mayfield.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Flagship11 on September 07, 2019, 11:08:07 PM
With the Super Bowl winning New England Patriots signing Antonio Brown to 1-year $15 million, its no shock to see the change in odds
From 7.4 to 5.7 after news of the agreement

https://i.imgur.com/hTHwmFd.png

Sportsbet offers alot of NFL prop bets in for those looking for team totals/division/conference winners
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/american-football/usa/nfl/nfl-5d5f8b7c03e44e78896c93a7


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 08, 2019, 10:08:23 AM
AB should check himself in a psychiatric clinic first, he needs therapy, not football if you ask me. All his bullshit of late, i'm surprised Patriots took a chance on him. Which locker-room needs all this drama? Dude got to training camp on a hot-air balloon with frostbite feet. lmao

With the Super Bowl winning New England Patriots signing Antonio Brown to 1-year $15 million, its no shock to see the change in odds
From 7.4 to 5.7 after news of the agreement

One more reason why people should go with either Rams or Chiefs.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: DaveF on September 08, 2019, 02:30:50 PM
What is kind of funny (or sad depending on how you look at it) was why I for GB.

I can't put my finger on it, just watching them preseason was like watching a well put together show.

It looked to me that any of them could have been in the locker room during practice, stuck on the toilet due to a bad burrito for dinner the day before, but he knew exactly where everyone else was on the field.

Can't explain it beyond that.

Back to this week

Jets over Buffalo
Giants over Dallas (possibly the +7 is bit much)

No other thoughts other than that.
I'm actually more interested in the MotoAmerica Races in NJ this weekend.

-Dave


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: DaveF on September 09, 2019, 12:45:37 AM
Jets over Buffalo
Giants over Dallas (possibly the +7 is bit much)

No other thoughts other than that.
I'm actually more interested in the MotoAmerica Races in NJ this weekend.

-Dave

OK, so I was wrong on those 2.
Seriously I think the Giants were looking to loose.
I stopped watching it hurt too much.

But the races were good :-)

-Dave
 


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: exbet.io on September 09, 2019, 08:53:06 AM
Great to find an NFL thread on Gambling!
Really enjoyed yesterday's games, roll on the rest of the season.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 09, 2019, 01:46:27 PM
OK, so I was wrong on those 2.
Seriously I think the Giants were looking to loose.
I stopped watching it hurt too much.

But the races were good :-)

-Dave
 

NFL games are notoriously hard to call, which makes it all the more fun to watch. My friend, who knows his stuff pretty well, insists on betting on college games -- for some reason or another they are just easier to call. I guess when a blowout is predicted to happen, it usually happens by a wider margin than previously suspected.

I moved to a place that has terrible internet connectivity, and got sick with a pretty rancid case of food poisoning :/ missed out on the games today. Next week I hope to be back in action. It was good to read that the Rams eeked out a win. Can't say the same for my fantasy team, however. Its looking grim unless Michael Thomas (NO) can put on a great performance.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 09, 2019, 07:39:29 PM
Yeah I was off on that one.  Surprised the bears put up such a poor offensive performance, trubisky looked like a rookie quarterback out there.  My pick for this weekend would be the jets at home -2.5, I also like Kansas city -3.5 at Jacksonville.  Probably will go 0-2 but those are my 2 picks

Was looking good on the jets until the 2nd half lol, that was a crazy comeback from the Bill's.  Hopefully the 1st half Bill's show up for the giants game next week :)  and yeah anytime kansas city is only favored by less than a touchdown I would take them all day everyday.  They are that good.  Might lose a couple games but not many.

Saints in tonight's game for the money line.  Let's see how that one goes.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: exbet.io on September 09, 2019, 08:04:17 PM
Just watching in the Saints game, looking forward to the match-up between two QBs at the opposite ends of their careers. Brees is all class, Watson, interesting to see how he develops this year.

Good luck with your moneyline bet.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 09, 2019, 08:33:52 PM
Just watching in the Saints game, looking forward to the match-up between two QBs at the opposite ends of their careers. Brees is all class, Watson, interesting to see how he develops this year.

Good luck with your moneyline bet.

I love the Saints in their dome, they know how to play in it better than anyone.  Also with Houston they got some pretty new pieces to their team so we'll see.  I love Watson's game and I think the x factor for them is if fuller can stay healthy for a full year, if so they gonna be lethal.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: exbet.io on September 09, 2019, 09:33:11 PM
I love Watson's game and I think the x factor for them is if fuller can stay healthy for a full year, if so they gonna be lethal.

Agree, at his best he looks like he has so much time, willing to wait for his receivers to get free, old head on young shoulders and all that.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 09, 2019, 11:14:35 PM
I really need Duke Johnson to put up some big numbers this game!

I have Hyde on the bench just in case.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Lambie Slayer on September 10, 2019, 07:31:59 AM
Great thread. Sports gambling is one of the main reasons I really got into Bitcoin years ago. It was fun to watch almost every betting site eventually adopt it over the years. Nowadays it seems the Bitcoin bonuses are typically the most aggressive on sites bc the owners are really seeing the value it adds for them and the customer.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 10, 2019, 09:00:42 AM
I really need Duke Johnson to put up some big numbers this game!

I have Hyde on the bench just in case.

Good to see you and Lambie out here.

This reminds me, we should also include fantasy team talk, which is also a form of gambling if your league has money on the line.

Lucky enough for me Michael Thomas slightly outperformed his projected and I squeezed out the Week 1 V in my league.

Pretty happy with this week's outcome. Rams won, and my fantasy team won. Can't ask for much more.

Funny anecdote: I just moved to a new city in the Philippines, found a white guy with an American accent who lived in my building, asked him where I could find a local sports bar that was open in the morning and played the NFL games. He was totally clueless. I was thinking to myself, what? An American, early-to-mid 50s, doesn't like the NFL? It turns out he's Canadian  :D

After tomorrows games I'll put up a new poll.



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: DaveF on September 10, 2019, 11:28:17 AM

Funny anecdote: I just moved to a new city in the Philippines, found a white guy with an American accent who lived in my building, asked him where I could find a local sports bar that was open in the morning and played the NFL games. He was totally clueless. I was thinking to myself, what? An American, early-to-mid 50s, doesn't like the NFL? It turns out he's Canadian  :D


I think sports bars are a dying trend.

I have found more and more (in my limited scope of talking to people across the county about football) that a lot of people are no longer watching live games / going to sports bars to watch / even going to the local bar to watch. They DVR it and watch it on their own time.

Last night was a perfect example, casual restaurant, 4 (5?) TVs all turned on to the games. Nobody, really watching. More glancing. Seems to be a trend.
I know I do it with racing. DVR the entire thing, FF though commercials, FF through the announcer babble, just watch the race.

-Dave


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 10, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
I really need Duke Johnson to put up some big numbers this game!

I have Hyde on the bench just in case.

Good to see you and Lambie out here.

This reminds me, we should also include fantasy team talk, which is also a form of gambling if your league has money on the line.

Lucky enough for me Michael Thomas slightly outperformed his projected and I squeezed out the Week 1 V in my league.

Pretty happy with this week's outcome. Rams won, and my fantasy team won. Can't ask for much more.

Funny anecdote: I just moved to a new city in the Philippines, found a white guy with an American accent who lived in my building, asked him where I could find a local sports bar that was open in the morning and played the NFL games. He was totally clueless. I was thinking to myself, what? An American, early-to-mid 50s, doesn't like the NFL? It turns out he's Canadian  :D

After tomorrows games I'll put up a new poll.



Funny thing is a i had Goff and Woods and they cost me the week. :)
Kupp is also on my bench.

That is an amusing anecdote, i bet he could tell you where to watch the Hockey games. :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 10, 2019, 02:42:02 PM
I think sports bars are a dying trend.

I have found more and more (in my limited scope of talking to people across the county about football) that a lot of people are no longer watching live games / going to sports bars to watch / even going to the local bar to watch. They DVR it and watch it on their own time.

Last night was a perfect example, casual restaurant, 4 (5?) TVs all turned on to the games. Nobody, really watching. More glancing. Seems to be a trend.
I know I do it with racing. DVR the entire thing, FF though commercials, FF through the announcer babble, just watch the race.

-Dave

Where I'm from all bars are dieing or dead in the last 30 years. The politicians strong armed them all into putting cops at the doors at exorbitant rates so they couldn't afford to stay open. And of course it led to everyone getting pulled over every fucking night for those that wouldn't pay the extortion racket.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 10, 2019, 04:20:57 PM
Just watching in the Saints game, looking forward to the match-up between two QBs at the opposite ends of their careers. Brees is all class, Watson, interesting to see how he develops this year.

Good luck with your moneyline bet.

I love the Saints in their dome, they know how to play in it better than anyone.  Also with Houston they got some pretty new pieces to their team so we'll see.  I love Watson's game and I think the x factor for them is if fuller can stay healthy for a full year, if so they gonna be lethal.

Wow just squeaked that one out.  Brees is def the best in the biz when it comes to last minute scoring drives.  Backed up on the 20 with 30 seconds left somehow he gets them in fringe fg position....crushing loss for houston.  Definately game of the week (although I didnt watch the arizona/det, and jets/Bill's game  :P)


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 10, 2019, 04:43:00 PM
Just watching in the Saints game, looking forward to the match-up between two QBs at the opposite ends of their careers. Brees is all class, Watson, interesting to see how he develops this year.

Good luck with your moneyline bet.

I love the Saints in their dome, they know how to play in it better than anyone.  Also with Houston they got some pretty new pieces to their team so we'll see.  I love Watson's game and I think the x factor for them is if fuller can stay healthy for a full year, if so they gonna be lethal.

Wow just squeaked that one out.  Brees is def the best in the biz when it comes to last minute scoring drives.  Backed up on the 20 with 30 seconds left somehow he gets them in fringe fg position....crushing loss for houston.  Definately game of the week (although I didnt watch the arizona/det, and jets/Bill's game  :P)

It certainly was! Although that roughing the kicker penalty that saved Houston so that the Saints had to drive to win was bullshit. I guess that could not be challenged?

I can't keep up with what is challengable anymore, they should just make anything challengable period.

Jets/Bill's was meh, 2 shitty teams with a couple of nice plays (10 second highlight reel and you watched the whole game) and arizona/det I only saw the highlights on redzone but Lions are still the lions and cards are better but not going to be a threat to anything except a better than losing record this year. Larry Fitz looked like his old self though for a few plays and I havn't seen that ion over 5 or 6 years. I'm not sure if it's because of substandard coverage or not but it was impressive enough for me to put a waiver in for him.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: DaveF on September 10, 2019, 07:05:10 PM
I think sports bars are a dying trend.

I have found more and more (in my limited scope of talking to people across the county about football) that a lot of people are no longer watching live games / going to sports bars to watch / even going to the local bar to watch. They DVR it and watch it on their own time.

Last night was a perfect example, casual restaurant, 4 (5?) TVs all turned on to the games. Nobody, really watching. More glancing. Seems to be a trend.
I know I do it with racing. DVR the entire thing, FF though commercials, FF through the announcer babble, just watch the race.

-Dave

Where I'm from all bars are dieing or dead in the last 30 years. The politicians strong armed them all into putting cops at the doors at exorbitant rates so they couldn't afford to stay open. And of course it led to everyone getting pulled over every fucking night for those that wouldn't pay the extortion racket.

Wow, where are you? I'll have to keep away...

The issue around here is that big TVs have gotten cheap, and bars have stopped the cheap food and drinks during the game.

It used to be you could go with 4 or 5 or 6 friends, have some wings / nachos / bar food and hang out for a few hours for $30 to $40 AT MOST PER PERSON

Now at least in the middle of the road places you are looking at $50+ (tax / tip included)

6 people kicking in $35 each can go to someones house have better beer / get some decent (not great) food delivered / chips / etc. and watch on your own 50+ inch screen.
Want to rewind, click the button. Want to watch a different game for a few minutes fine.

Everyone puts in 10 minutes cleanup at the end as you leave and done.

Make a bit of a mess everyone kick in $10 for a cleaning person to show up for an hour during the week.

-Dave


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on September 10, 2019, 08:33:47 PM
AB should check himself in a psychiatric clinic first, he needs therapy, not football if you ask me. All his bullshit of late, i'm surprised Patriots took a chance on him. Which locker-room needs all this drama? Dude got to training camp on a hot-air balloon with frostbite feet. lmao

With the Super Bowl winning New England Patriots signing Antonio Brown to 1-year $15 million, its no shock to see the change in odds
From 7.4 to 5.7 after news of the agreement

One more reason why people should go with either Rams or Chiefs.
While there is no doubt that Antonio Brown has issues off and on the field to me this seems like a power move, as soon as the Raiders tried to mess with his guaranteed money he wanted out since he knew the New England Patriots were waiting for him, however he does not seem to understand that the Patriots do not really need him and have all the leverage, they crushed the Steelers very easily and if for some reason he begins to behave as he has done recently they will just cut him and it is very likely that other general managers will think that if Belichick cannot control him then no one can and his career could finish prematurely.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: mich on September 11, 2019, 02:27:38 AM
Antonio Brown Accused of Rape in a Lawsuit  :o  Anyone's think he will play on Sunday?

The Patriots receiver is accused of three incidents of sexual assault, in 2017 and 2018, against a woman who attended college with him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/sports/football/antonio-brown-sexual-asssault-patriots.html


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 11, 2019, 06:39:45 AM
OK, I found a game for the new poll, its the Battle of the Birds:

09/15 8:20 PM

[287] PHILADELPHIA (-1.5)
[288] ATLANTA (+1.5)

Going forward I'm going to pick games for the poll based on:

- how close they are to being even
- how interesting they are on a general level
- how interesting they are to me

Polls are based on ML (win or lose) only, not spreads.

I have Carson Wentz as my fantasy QB, so I'm going with Philadelphia on that basis. Which I do realize isn't a basis at all, but nonetheless (for some reason spellcheck says its "nonetheless" but I've always pronounced it "non-the-less"... oh well). Hope to be able to watch this one in real-time.

It used to be you could go with 4 or 5 or 6 friends, have some wings / nachos / bar food and hang out for a few hours for $30 to $40 AT MOST PER PERSON

Now at least in the middle of the road places you are looking at $50+ (tax / tip included)

6 people kicking in $35 each can go to someones house have better beer / get some decent (not great) food delivered / chips / etc. and watch on your own 50+ inch screen.
Want to rewind, click the button. Want to watch a different game for a few minutes fine.

Damn, that's nuts. One of the things that attracted me to the Philippines was the extremely cheap cost of living. $20 (1000 pesos) is like a nice dinner for two with drinks. The most I've ever spent on a meal is about $30, and that's including a generous tip, which is never necessary, but I suspect always appreciated.

Of course there is a 12 hour time zone difference between here and the east coast, so the latest games start around 10:30 AM. The Eagles / Falcons game therefore starts at 8:20 AM -- not exactly drinking hours. But you can get a nice breakfast with fresh brewed coffee (something of a rarity here) for about $4-$5, or less if you find the right spots.

If you go to an American-owned place (all of them are now that I think about it), they usually hire some pretty attractive waitresses, so its nice to have some eye candy during the commercials. Of course you also run the risk of being surrounded by degenerates who are already on their 3rd martini by the time the game starts, and they keep trying to talk to your girlfriend while you get wafts of halitosis and gin because you are sitting between them and her.



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 11, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
OK, I found a game for the new poll, its the Battle of the Birds:

09/15 8:20 PM

[287] PHILADELPHIA (-1.5)
[288] ATLANTA (+1.5)

Going forward I'm going to pick games for the poll based on:

- how close they are to being even
- how interesting they are on a general level
- how interesting they are to me

Polls are based on ML (win or lose) only, not spreads.

I have Carson Wentz as my fantasy QB, so I'm going with Philadelphia on that basis. Which I do realize isn't a basis at all, but nonetheless (for some reason spellcheck says its "nonetheless" but I've always pronounced it "non-the-less"... oh well). Hope to be able to watch this one in real-time.

It used to be you could go with 4 or 5 or 6 friends, have some wings / nachos / bar food and hang out for a few hours for $30 to $40 AT MOST PER PERSON

Now at least in the middle of the road places you are looking at $50+ (tax / tip included)

6 people kicking in $35 each can go to someones house have better beer / get some decent (not great) food delivered / chips / etc. and watch on your own 50+ inch screen.
Want to rewind, click the button. Want to watch a different game for a few minutes fine.

Damn, that's nuts. One of the things that attracted me to the Philippines was the extremely cheap cost of living. $20 (1000 pesos) is like a nice dinner for two with drinks. The most I've ever spent on a meal is about $30, and that's including a generous tip, which is never necessary, but I suspect always appreciated.

Of course there is a 12 hour time zone difference between here and the east coast, so the latest games start around 10:30 AM. The Eagles / Falcons game therefore starts at 8:20 AM -- not exactly drinking hours. But you can get a nice breakfast with fresh brewed coffee (something of a rarity here) for about $4-$5, or less if you find the right spots.

If you go to an American-owned place (all of them are now that I think about it), they usually hire some pretty attractive waitresses, so its nice to have some eye candy during the commercials. Of course you also run the risk of being surrounded by degenerates who are already on their 3rd martini by the time the game starts, and they keep trying to talk to your girlfriend while you get wafts of halitosis and gin because you are sitting between them and her.



Atlanta looked pretty bad in their opener but either did the eagles against a lowly Redskins team.  If I had to go out and pick this one it would be getting a little extra juice on the atlanta ML to win.  They cant start 0-2 and a win here is needed.  Not that, that determines the game I expect a sharper atlanta team in this one.  Julio goes for 2 touchdowns and Hooper with another atlanta 27-20


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 11, 2019, 11:09:30 PM

Wow, where are you? I'll have to keep away...


Somewhere in the Land of the Free. :rolleyes:
I don't live there anymore


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The issue around here is that big TVs have gotten cheap, and bars have stopped the cheap food and drinks during the game.

It used to be you could go with 4 or 5 or 6 friends, have some wings / nachos / bar food and hang out for a few hours for $30 to $40 AT MOST PER PERSON

Now at least in the middle of the road places you are looking at $50+ (tax / tip included)

6 people kicking in $35 each can go to someones house have better beer / get some decent (not great) food delivered / chips / etc. and watch on your own 50+ inch screen.
Want to rewind, click the button. Want to watch a different game for a few minutes fine.

Everyone puts in 10 minutes cleanup at the end as you leave and done.

Make a bit of a mess everyone kick in $10 for a cleaning person to show up for an hour during the week.

-Dave


Yeah, 30-40 is pretty reasonable for a Sunday watching the games, I have no issue with 5 bucks a beer and usually there is a wings special around during the games.


Antonio Brown Accused of Rape in a Lawsuit  :o  Anyone's think he will play on Sunday?

The Patriots receiver is accused of three incidents of sexual assault, in 2017 and 2018, against a woman who attended college with him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/sports/football/antonio-brown-sexual-asssault-patriots.html

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. Really she went to work for him after he did that shit. Pleeze
Sounds more like a gold digger that was hooking out as a "trainer".



Atlanta looked pretty bad in their opener but either did the eagles against a lowly Redskins team.  If I had to go out and pick this one it would be getting a little extra juice on the atlanta ML to win.  They cant start 0-2 and a win here is needed.  Not that, that determines the game I expect a sharper atlanta team in this one.  Julio goes for 2 touchdowns and Hooper with another atlanta 27-20

Yeah, Atlanta Has sucked big donkey dick since the Pats bent them over in the SuperBowl. 

Ryan need to retire and they need to rebuild.

The eagles really looked good, looks like the Old Jackson is back?
Is that the first time he's faced the Skins since he left? I like playing guys that are in revenge games.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 12, 2019, 03:27:01 AM
Yeah d jax was #1 gunning for the Redskins and #2 amped to be back playing for the eagles.  I think the nfl took notice and will respect his game again, he looked like the old d jax (unfortunately)  :P.  Dude always killed the giants.  If you have d jax in ff be sure to start him against the giants


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 12, 2019, 08:54:47 PM
Yeah d jax was #1 gunning for the Redskins and #2 amped to be back playing for the eagles.  I think the nfl took notice and will respect his game again, he looked like the old d jax (unfortunately)  :P.  Dude always killed the giants.  If you have d jax in ff be sure to start him against the giants

I missed him but I did get Terry McLaurin. :)


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 13, 2019, 03:54:20 PM
Yeah d jax was #1 gunning for the Redskins and #2 amped to be back playing for the eagles.  I think the nfl took notice and will respect his game again, he looked like the old d jax (unfortunately)  :P.  Dude always killed the giants.  If you have d jax in ff be sure to start him against the giants

I missed him but I did get Terry McLaurin. :)

I'm not always that big on picking up rookies in fantasy football.  They are too boom or bust, looked decent last week.  Let's see what he can do vs the cowboys, but I always like to stick with vet wr in fantasy.  RB I would be fine with owning a rookie but that's just me, kid does look good.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 13, 2019, 04:46:20 PM
Yeah d jax was #1 gunning for the Redskins and #2 amped to be back playing for the eagles.  I think the nfl took notice and will respect his game again, he looked like the old d jax (unfortunately)  :P.  Dude always killed the giants.  If you have d jax in ff be sure to start him against the giants

I missed him but I did get Terry McLaurin. :)

I'm not always that big on picking up rookies in fantasy football.  They are too boom or bust, looked decent last week.  Let's see what he can do vs the cowboys, but I always like to stick with vet wr in fantasy.  RB I would be fine with owning a rookie but that's just me, kid does look good.

It pays to grab and stash them just in case, like Lindsay and Godwin payed off for me last year. :)

It's so gross how they use Lindsey this year (it took them awhile to figure out not to run him up the middle last year).
Flakko is a tard that projects all his handoffs and couldn't pull off a play action if his life depended on it.
Denver is fucked until he's gone.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 13, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Yeah d jax was #1 gunning for the Redskins and #2 amped to be back playing for the eagles.  I think the nfl took notice and will respect his game again, he looked like the old d jax (unfortunately)  :P.  Dude always killed the giants.  If you have d jax in ff be sure to start him against the giants

I missed him but I did get Terry McLaurin. :)

I'm not always that big on picking up rookies in fantasy football.  They are too boom or bust, looked decent last week.  Let's see what he can do vs the cowboys, but I always like to stick with vet wr in fantasy.  RB I would be fine with owning a rookie but that's just me, kid does look good.

It pays to grab and stash them just in case, like Lindsay and Godwin payed off for me last year. :)

It's so gross how they use Lindsey this year (it took them awhile to figure out not to run him up the middle last year).
Flakko is a tard that projects all his handoffs and couldn't pull off a play action if his life depended on it.
Denver is fucked until he's gone.

I just dont have any room this early in the season for a stash unless I give up on another stash.  Question now that aj green is out of a boot would you keep him or get a stash guy that has value now.  I have green and just like his season value vs a guy like mclaurin


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 13, 2019, 05:24:34 PM

I just dont have any room this early in the season for a stash unless I give up on another stash.  Question now that aj green is out of a boot would you keep him or get a stash guy that has value now.  I have green and just like his season value vs a guy like mclaurin


Green has been on my stay away from list for a few years.

As a matter of fact all Bengals are on that list.  :)
I did grab Boyd last year off the wire but I think he was rated too high this year.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 13, 2019, 10:03:38 PM

I just dont have any room this early in the season for a stash unless I give up on another stash.  Question now that aj green is out of a boot would you keep him or get a stash guy that has value now.  I have green and just like his season value vs a guy like mclaurin


Green has been on my stay away from list for a few years.

As a matter of fact all Bengals are on that list.  :)
I did grab Boyd last year off the wire but I think he was rated too high this year.

Yeah I wasnt a fan of picking him up but he dropped so far in my draft, he was being drafted with teams 3rd and 4th options so it was kind of a flyer, I have cupp, Golladay, and godson ahead of him as well as marvin jones on my bench so if one of them go down or are subpar and aj gets his injury taken care of I have a nice replacement waiting on the bench.  Overall I dont like bangles skill players either including Mixon, but this year it kind of fell that way

I went heavy rb first this year


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 14, 2019, 01:59:57 PM

I just dont have any room this early in the season for a stash unless I give up on another stash.  Question now that aj green is out of a boot would you keep him or get a stash guy that has value now.  I have green and just like his season value vs a guy like mclaurin


Green has been on my stay away from list for a few years.

As a matter of fact all Bengals are on that list.  :)
I did grab Boyd last year off the wire but I think he was rated too high this year.

Yeah I wasnt a fan of picking him up but he dropped so far in my draft, he was being drafted with teams 3rd and 4th options so it was kind of a flyer, I have cupp, Golladay, and godson ahead of him as well as marvin jones on my bench so if one of them go down or are subpar and aj gets his injury taken care of I have a nice replacement waiting on the bench.  Overall I dont like bangles skill players either including Mixon, but this year it kind of fell that way

I went heavy rb first this year

I have Kupp along with Woods and Goff and was pretty disappointing last week (played Woods+Goff).
So i doubled down and grabbed Malcolm Brown. :)
I expect NO VS LAR to be a high scoring game, if its not then I think I'm screwed for the year. :)

I'm pretty lucky i drafted Sammy Watkins (I just missed hill) and I expect he will have another big day this Sunday.
My big Duds who I expected more out of were Duke Johnson and Tyler Lockett I have a feeling i may be trying to trade them.

Who do you guys think will Excel this week?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 14, 2019, 04:53:27 PM

I just dont have any room this early in the season for a stash unless I give up on another stash.  Question now that aj green is out of a boot would you keep him or get a stash guy that has value now.  I have green and just like his season value vs a guy like mclaurin


Green has been on my stay away from list for a few years.

As a matter of fact all Bengals are on that list.  :)
I did grab Boyd last year off the wire but I think he was rated too high this year.

Yeah I wasnt a fan of picking him up but he dropped so far in my draft, he was being drafted with teams 3rd and 4th options so it was kind of a flyer, I have cupp, Golladay, and godson ahead of him as well as marvin jones on my bench so if one of them go down or are subpar and aj gets his injury taken care of I have a nice replacement waiting on the bench.  Overall I dont like bangles skill players either including Mixon, but this year it kind of fell that way

I went heavy rb first this year

I have Kupp along with Woods and Goff and was pretty disappointing last week (played Woods+Goff).
So i doubled down and grabbed Malcolm Brown. :)
I expect NO VS LAR to be a high scoring game, if its not then I think I'm screwed for the year. :)

I'm pretty lucky i drafted Sammy Watkins (I just missed hill) and I expect he will have another big day this Sunday.
My big Duds who I expected more out of were Duke Johnson and Tyler Lockett I have a feeling i may be trying to trade them.

Who do you guys think will Excel this week?

TE waller from Oakland.  With basically just him and William's to throw to without brown on the team now. Think he will get 10-12 targets.  Got him playing over Vance McDonald at the tight end position on my team.  I think he is going to be this years little.  We'll see but grabbing him later than the 10th round this year might have been my best pick


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 14, 2019, 05:38:48 PM
TE waller from Oakland.  With basically just him and William's to throw to without brown on the team now. Think he will get 10-12 targets.  Got him playing over Vance McDonald at the tight end position on my team.  I think he is going to be this years little.  We'll see but grabbing him later than the 10th round this year might have been my best pick

Great call! Also I grabbed T.J. Hockenson off the wire on a team I drafted Kelce and Kettle 2nd/3rd back to back just because if he explodes I have more equity in trading positions with him off the table. :)
I dropped Hyde who I figured I'd take a chance on (drafted cheap instead of a kicker) and even though he did well I don't see him producing more than 8-14 a week and thats not going to win any championships. Funny thing is I was forcasted to crush without a kicker so I was hopeing to not have to grab one until after I was able to vet everyone first week but Goff/Lockett/Duke Johnson cost me so much I was down 13 points sunday and had to grab a kicker (well it was a gamble that a kicker could save me but he did put up 10) and still lost by a few points.

That team was the first time I ever drafted first and I really didn't know where to go when everyone was gone (all reasonable RB's and best WR's) for my second pick at the 20th spot! Should be interesting to see how that team pans out.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 16, 2019, 03:21:30 AM
My fantasy team got slaughtered this week. Hope to come back from this devastating loss next week.

Wentz didn't put up great numbers for me today. However, with 2 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, it would appear that the Eagles are going to win this one.

Edit: Eagles lose after last-minute drive by the Falcons! DOH.

Rams stomped all over the Saints, that was nice.

Cowboys beat the Redskins and covered -- that was all but predictable. I remember reading somewhere that the most "public money" was betting on Dallas this week, and it all won.

49ers huge win over the Bengals.

Patriots 43, Dolphins 0. Haha.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 16, 2019, 03:49:22 AM
I won one and will probably lose the other unless Bell gets hit by lightning! most of my players were Rams/NO and Chiefs but I had all the ones that didn't perform up to spec. I really expected more out of the NO/Rams game but Brees going down and penalties really put a damper on that one. Watching Woods getting called back continuously due to penalties had me yelling at the screen! :D

I also wish I had played Prescott over Brady, I could have used those extra points and I expected more out of S. Watkins  but Kelce was on point and Seeing Kupp get back to old form was pretty cool as well.

And where was D. Jackson and Alshon Jefferys???

Oh yeah Edleman didn't get targets and that hurt alot, Brady was force feeding Brown.
That sucks that they are feeding that Prima Dona.

Added: that Ryan/Jones play on 3rd and 4(IIRC) was a real surprise to shut that game down!


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on September 16, 2019, 06:02:37 PM
My fantasy team got slaughtered this week. Hope to come back from this devastating loss next week.

Wentz didn't put up great numbers for me today. However, with 2 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, it would appear that the Eagles are going to win this one.

Edit: Eagles lose after last-minute drive by the Falcons! DOH.

Rams stomped all over the Saints, that was nice.

Cowboys beat the Redskins and covered -- that was all but predictable. I remember reading somewhere that the most "public money" was betting on Dallas this week, and it all won.

49ers huge win over the Bengals.

Patriots 43, Dolphins 0. Haha.
I voted for the Eagles to win over the Falcons and now I am 0-2 and it seems many of us are on the same boat.

Probably the most shocking news is that Big Ben is out for the rest of the season and Drew Brees will be out for 6 to 8 weeks, this probably means that the season is over for the Steelers and if Bridgewater does not do a good job for the Saints then their season will be over as well.

It is interesting that we are only two weeks into the regular season and there are only a handful of teams that have any real super bowl aspirations, on the AFC the Patriots and Chiefs seem to be headed to another AFC championship and on the NFC the Rams, Cowboys and the Seahawks seem like the strongest candidates.   


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 16, 2019, 07:43:37 PM
OK, I found a game for the new poll, its the Battle of the Birds:

09/15 8:20 PM

[287] PHILADELPHIA (-1.5)
[288] ATLANTA (+1.5)

Going forward I'm going to pick games for the poll based on:

- how close they are to being even
- how interesting they are on a general level
- how interesting they are to me

Polls are based on ML (win or lose) only, not spreads.

I have Carson Wentz as my fantasy QB, so I'm going with Philadelphia on that basis. Which I do realize isn't a basis at all, but nonetheless (for some reason spellcheck says its "nonetheless" but I've always pronounced it "non-the-less"... oh well). Hope to be able to watch this one in real-time.

It used to be you could go with 4 or 5 or 6 friends, have some wings / nachos / bar food and hang out for a few hours for $30 to $40 AT MOST PER PERSON

Now at least in the middle of the road places you are looking at $50+ (tax / tip included)

6 people kicking in $35 each can go to someones house have better beer / get some decent (not great) food delivered / chips / etc. and watch on your own 50+ inch screen.
Want to rewind, click the button. Want to watch a different game for a few minutes fine.

Damn, that's nuts. One of the things that attracted me to the Philippines was the extremely cheap cost of living. $20 (1000 pesos) is like a nice dinner for two with drinks. The most I've ever spent on a meal is about $30, and that's including a generous tip, which is never necessary, but I suspect always appreciated.

Of course there is a 12 hour time zone difference between here and the east coast, so the latest games start around 10:30 AM. The Eagles / Falcons game therefore starts at 8:20 AM -- not exactly drinking hours. But you can get a nice breakfast with fresh brewed coffee (something of a rarity here) for about $4-$5, or less if you find the right spots.

If you go to an American-owned place (all of them are now that I think about it), they usually hire some pretty attractive waitresses, so its nice to have some eye candy during the commercials. Of course you also run the risk of being surrounded by degenerates who are already on their 3rd martini by the time the game starts, and they keep trying to talk to your girlfriend while you get wafts of halitosis and gin because you are sitting between them and her.



Atlanta looked pretty bad in their opener but either did the eagles against a lowly Redskins team.  If I had to go out and pick this one it would be getting a little extra juice on the atlanta ML to win.  They cant start 0-2 and a win here is needed.  Not that, that determines the game I expect a sharper atlanta team in this one.  Julio goes for 2 touchdowns and Hooper with another atlanta 27-20

Pretty dam close with that one.  What an ending to that game!  Julio had 2 and it was Ridley not Hooper but man not bad  :D.  Let me give tonight a shot.  Chub runs for one, Landry gets one and Mayfields runs one in.  30-13 browns win it.  


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: exbet.io on September 16, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
The most fun this week was watching Lamar Jackson continue to blossomunder coach who believes in him (compared to last season). If he keeps that sharp passing going and offensive line gives him enough time, he will pull apart better defenses than the Cardinals. Just gotta not get hit too often, but he's smart with his running.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 17, 2019, 05:16:21 AM
Chub runs for one, Landry gets one and Mayfields runs one in.  30-13 browns win it. 

Pretty close here, not bad! Browns are looking to have their best season in quite a long while this year.

Which is why I've updated the poll with their game for Sunday against the Rams. Gonna go out of my way to watch this one... Still haven't found a damn sports bar here that both

- opens early enough
- plays NFL games

I'd think there'd be enough Americans here to make that happen... Just gotta do a bit more exploring.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 17, 2019, 02:47:31 PM
I voted for the Eagles to win over the Falcons and now I am 0-2 and it seems many of us are on the same boat.

My vacation kinda interfered with the start of the season and i was able to only watch Packers v Bears opening night game and Brown's win yesterday. So a lot of catch-up to do for me.

Nonetheless, I'm one (https://i.ibb.co/cTn0Lgb/hjjh.png) of the two people who picked the Falcons to win this past week (lucky late drive...still counts though), I also have correctly voted the Packers in week 1. Might as well place some bets this week while i'm still hot. ;D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: exbet.io on September 17, 2019, 03:11:45 PM
That one-handed catch by OBJ last night.. the physical skill and presence of mind to make sure he go both feet down AND didn't cannon into someone on the sidelines... just amazing


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 18, 2019, 04:54:37 PM
That one-handed catch by OBJ last night.. the physical skill and presence of mind to make sure he go both feet down AND didn't cannon into someone on the sidelines... just amazing

Yeah it's amazing how easy he makes them look, I dare you to go outside and just play catch with someone and try one hand catching the ball, good luck  :D and he does it in the nfl while being blanketed on the sidelines, crazy


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on September 18, 2019, 05:51:34 PM
That one-handed catch by OBJ last night.. the physical skill and presence of mind to make sure he go both feet down AND didn't cannon into someone on the sidelines... just amazing
Not only that, he made that great catch and had an incredible performance against a New York team (not the Giants unfortunately) on Monday Night, it was as if he was saying look at what you are going to miss and what I am going to do to you the rest of my career.

That being said I do not understand why they traded him, even if he has a difficult personality he has the potential to be a HOF and they traded him on his prime.

By the way I selected the Rams to win over the Browns since I consider them to be a better team and I hope they give me my first correct prediction since I do not want to become the Miami Dolphins of this thread. :P


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 18, 2019, 06:31:42 PM
That one-handed catch by OBJ last night.. the physical skill and presence of mind to make sure he go both feet down AND didn't cannon into someone on the sidelines... just amazing

Indeed it was a nice catch, here's him catching footballs at practice without gloves (i will probably catch one too...but with my head): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqBuPIvOKhU :o

had an incredible performance against a New York team (not the Giants unfortunately)

No Darnold and with Siemian nasty injury in the second quarter the Jets didn't stand chance, oh by the way that defense without C.J. Mosley is absolute crap. So yeah, I would not go that far and praise him too much on what he did. Let's see if he can have a similar performance against one of the top teams this weekend (for the record i also picked the Rams).


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 18, 2019, 07:08:14 PM
That one-handed catch by OBJ last night.. the physical skill and presence of mind to make sure he go both feet down AND didn't cannon into someone on the sidelines... just amazing
Not only that, he made that great catch and had an incredible performance against a New York team (not the Giants unfortunately) on Monday Night, it was as if he was saying look at what you are going to miss and what I am going to do to you the rest of my career.

That being said I do not understand why they traded him, even if he has a difficult personality he has the potential to be a HOF and they traded him on his prime.

By the way I selected the Rams to win over the Browns since I consider them to be a better team and I hope they give me my first correct prediction since I do not want to become the Miami Dolphins of this thread. :P

I think they traded him because the giants wanted to give barkley the keys to the team.  If you think Odell is going to play second fiddle to anyone he isnt.  And barkley is by far more valuable than Odell is/was.  They will need to use that money odell got on the defensive side of the ball.  I also dont think that odell fit shurmurs offense, who knows maybe it was just his antics they got fed up with.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 19, 2019, 02:15:38 AM
It's funny that when thinking of the Rams/Browns the first thought I had was who is the home team!

To even imagine a few months ago that those two teams would even give a moments thought and not picking the Rams immediately is a tribute to their dedication this off season. Shit they have been the worst team for so many years I can't even remember who it was before them and the Rams were in the Superbowl!

But yeah they will need a miracle to beat the Rams but I'm considering benching some of my Ram WR's this week!


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 19, 2019, 04:36:34 AM
5 unanimous votes for the Rams this week, that's the most agreement we've had on a poll thus far.

It's funny that when thinking of the Rams/Browns the first thought I had was who is the home team!

To even imagine a few months ago that those two teams would even give a moments thought and not picking the Rams immediately is a tribute to their dedication this off season. Shit they have been the worst team for so many years I can't even remember who it was before them and the Rams were in the Superbowl!

Yes, they have been among the worst in recent years past, but I would also nominate Cleveland, Tampa Bay and Buffalo for those positions as well. Even though Buffalo did clinch a division title a few years back.

But yeah they will need a miracle to beat the Rams but I'm considering benching some of my Ram WR's this week!

Me too. I have Robert Woods and I'm leaving him on the bench this week.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 19, 2019, 06:20:22 PM
Me too. I have Robert Woods and I'm leaving him on the bench this week.

I have to play Kupp or Woods and I think it will have to be Kupp but it hurts soo much. :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 19, 2019, 06:25:21 PM
5 unanimous votes for the Rams this week, that's the most agreement we've had on a poll thus far.

It's funny that when thinking of the Rams/Browns the first thought I had was who is the home team!

To even imagine a few months ago that those two teams would even give a moments thought and not picking the Rams immediately is a tribute to their dedication this off season. Shit they have been the worst team for so many years I can't even remember who it was before them and the Rams were in the Superbowl!

Yes, they have been among the worst in recent years past, but I would also nominate Cleveland, Tampa Bay and Buffalo for those positions as well. Even though Buffalo did clinch a division title a few years back.

But yeah they will need a miracle to beat the Rams but I'm considering benching some of my Ram WR's this week!

Me too. I have Robert Woods and I'm leaving him on the bench this week.

I dont know what your team looks like but you probably took woods around round 4/5, I dont think Cleveland's secondary is enough for me to bench a rams wr.  I have Brooks in one league and kupp in another I am starting both of them without thinking twice.  I would advise you to do the same with woods unless you are wr heavy


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 19, 2019, 10:06:39 PM
5 unanimous votes for the Rams this week, that's the most agreement we've had on a poll thus far.

It's funny that when thinking of the Rams/Browns the first thought I had was who is the home team!

To even imagine a few months ago that those two teams would even give a moments thought and not picking the Rams immediately is a tribute to their dedication this off season. Shit they have been the worst team for so many years I can't even remember who it was before them and the Rams were in the Superbowl!

Yes, they have been among the worst in recent years past, but I would also nominate Cleveland, Tampa Bay and Buffalo for those positions as well. Even though Buffalo did clinch a division title a few years back.

But yeah they will need a miracle to beat the Rams but I'm considering benching some of my Ram WR's this week!

Me too. I have Robert Woods and I'm leaving him on the bench this week.

I dont know what your team looks like but you probably took woods around round 4/5, I dont think Cleveland's secondary is enough for me to bench a rams wr.  I have Brooks in one league and kupp in another I am starting both of them without thinking twice.  I would advise you to do the same with woods unless you are wr heavy

   
Sammy Watkins KC - WR
Cooper Kupp LAR - WR
Tyler Lockett Sea - WR

I'm playing these 3 on my team with both. I've got good WR depth, wish i could say the same about RB. :)


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 19, 2019, 10:40:58 PM
Its a tough game tonight so I'm thinking of going with the over 38.5 but even that is risky as both teams don't really have a good offence. I also got a parlay going for Sunday's games with the Packers to cover the spread, Chiefs money line and Bills money line. 


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 20, 2019, 10:09:21 AM
Its a tough game tonight so I'm thinking of going with the over 38.5 but even that is risky as both teams don't really have a good offence.

20-7 Jacksonville, you are short but Jags could have easily covered the 38.5 by themselves, Westbrook dropped one in the endzone, Fournette was stopped short on a big drive, they had a couple of more easy opportunities. Though the theme of the game was "Mariota, down he goes" that dude spend more time on the ground than throwing the ball. :D

Good luck with your parlay on Sunday, Bills have this one fo sure.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 20, 2019, 01:37:26 PM
Its a tough game tonight so I'm thinking of going with the over 38.5 but even that is risky as both teams don't really have a good offence.

20-7 Jacksonville, you are short but Jags could have easily covered the 38.5 by themselves, Westbrook dropped one in the endzone, Fournette was stopped short on a big drive, they had a couple of more easy opportunities. Though the theme of the game was "Mariota, down he goes" that dude spend more time on the ground than throwing the ball. :D

Good luck with your parlay on Sunday, Bills have this one fo sure.

There was about 14 points left on the ground due to over zealous officiating shutting down some good drives as well.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 20, 2019, 10:04:06 PM
There was about 14 points left on the ground due to over zealous officiating shutting down some good drives as well.

That's correct, i don't really wanna talk about refs anymore, i get pretty angsty just thinking about them and the way the game is being officiated the last couple seasons. meh


Here's more nauseating stuff. It's about the Patriots and AB in particular. I'm sure yall saw that on social media already, but if you haven't, AB is being released by the team following the sexual assault allegations. What's next for AB, do you think he's done with NFL? He threatened to retire last month lol...i guess you should be careful what you wish for.
More on the story: Bleacher Report (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2853276-antonio-brown-released-by-patriots-amid-nfl-probe-into-alleged-sexual-assaults).


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 21, 2019, 03:52:40 AM
There was about 14 points left on the ground due to over zealous officiating shutting down some good drives as well.

That's correct, i don't really wanna talk about refs anymore, i get pretty angsty just thinking about them and the way the game is being officiated the last couple seasons. meh


Here's more nauseating stuff. It's about the Patriots and AB in particular. I'm sure yall saw that on social media already, but if you haven't, AB is being released by the team following the sexual assault allegations. What's next for AB, do you think he's done with NFL? He threatened to retire last month lol...i guess you should be careful what you wish for.
More on the story: Bleacher Report (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2853276-antonio-brown-released-by-patriots-amid-nfl-probe-into-alleged-sexual-assaults).

Yeah, that fuker cost me last week! Edelman..... :(


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 21, 2019, 09:59:35 AM
I dont know what your team looks like but you probably took woods around round 4/5, I dont think Cleveland's secondary is enough for me to bench a rams wr.  I have Brooks in one league and kupp in another I am starting both of them without thinking twice.  I would advise you to do the same with woods unless you are wr heavy

Here's who I have on my WR list:

Chris Godwin - TB
Mike Evans - TB
Michael Thomas - NO
Robert Woods - LAR
Allen Robinson - Chi
Sterling Shepard - NYG
Emmanuel Sanders - Den

So yeah you could say I am WR-heavy  :D

The ones in bold are my starters. Would you make any changes?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 21, 2019, 12:55:53 PM
I dont know what your team looks like but you probably took woods around round 4/5, I dont think Cleveland's secondary is enough for me to bench a rams wr.  I have Brooks in one league and kupp in another I am starting both of them without thinking twice.  I would advise you to do the same with woods unless you are wr heavy

Here's who I have on my WR list:

Chris Godwin - TB
Mike Evans - TB
Michael Thomas - NO
Robert Woods - LAR
Allen Robinson - Chi
Sterling Shepard - NYG
Emmanuel Sanders - Den

So yeah you could say I am WR-heavy  :D

The ones in bold are my starters. Would you make any changes?

Honestly if you are in a 2 wr and 1 flex league I would probably play that lineup each week regardless of the opponent.  For sure this week, the godson and evabs are gonna feast on the giants.  I would consider waiting for a real good week by woods or Evan's and offer them up for a rb1/rb2, since you are probably light on running backs


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 21, 2019, 11:54:43 PM
Do you guys think the Pats can cover the spread this week like they did last week? I know the -21 is a lot to cover but I am looking for some value for my next parlay, I'm actually thinking that the Dolphins can cover the spread against the Cowboys at +22, I'll be interested in what you guys think here and what other spreads are worth looking at?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 22, 2019, 02:17:25 PM
Do you guys think the Pats can cover the spread this week like they did last week?

NY Jets looked absolutely terrible both offensively and defensively against the Browns. If Belichick has to gameplan/shift focus to only stop Le'Veon Bell, which let's be honest is the only threat Jets have, it's gonna be a long day for them at Gillette Stadium. I could see that spread covered within 2 and half quarters.

These are my bets for today, I really do believe Lions can win in Philadelphia or at least have a close game.

https://i.ibb.co/h93sdwt/Lions.png https://i.ibb.co/cQjgcHf/Vikings.png



We now have one vote for Cleveland, who are you stranger?  ;D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 22, 2019, 03:16:29 PM
This just in: Antonio Brown, done! Thousands of Fantasy Football players cry out in unison.

Antonio Brown Says He Won’t Be Playing In The NFL Anymore (https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/09/22/antonio-brown-done-with-nfl/)

Quote
He announced on Twitter that he’s finished with the league.

“Will not be playing in the (NFL) anymore these owners can cancel deals do whatever they want at anytime we will see if the (NFLPA) hold them accountable sad they can just void guarantees anytime going on 40m 2 months will see if they pay up !” the tweet read.

Brown was recently released by the Patriots. He only played one game with New England before he was cut.

The Patriots released a statement saying, “The New England Patriots are releasing Antonio Brown. We appreciate the hard work of many people over the past 11 days, but we feel that it is best to move in a different direction at this time.”

ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler said Brown will likely forfeit his $9 million signing bonus from New England because of a contract clause calling for players to disclose situations preventing availability. He also said Brown was due $5 million on Monday.

Before Brown’s arrival in New England, he was playing with the Raiders. Brown had been fined over $200,000, and the Raiders voided the $29.125 million worth of guaranteed money that his deal had guaranteed, according to ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Related story:

Pittsburgh Doctor Claims Antonio Brown Repeatedly Farted In His Face, Owes Him $11,500 (https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/09/17/pittsburgh-doctor-claims-antonio-brown-repeatedly-farted-in-his-face-owes-him-11500/)

 :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 22, 2019, 11:10:56 PM
I won my small parlay I put on a few days ago but man I was getting worried in the Chiefs/Ravens games as I thought the Ravens would win as they had an outstanding last quarter. I didn't get to see the Bills game but I was confident that they would get the job done which they did and also for the Packers to cover the spread which they did. I did however miss on my second parlay with the Pats not covering the spread and also the Dolphins not covering which I thought they would.

@morvillz7z

Nice hit on the Lions mate, you should of taken them at the money line as you said you liked them to win today against the Eagles. Chargers are letting you down right now, hopefully they can get up in the 4th quarter for you.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on September 23, 2019, 03:51:16 AM
The Browns had a good 1st half I was slightly worried when the Rams struggled I had a big bet on them and they only scored one field goal. I thought the Browns would hold on to their lead and outscore the Rams.

Their last attempt for an overtime was also close it seemed the Rams defense couldn't keep up they quickly closed in on the goal line but couldn't convert a touchdown.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 23, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
I did however miss on my second parlay with the Pats not covering the spread and also the Dolphins not covering which I thought they would.

Jets defense scored on a muffed punt and then again it was their defense fucking up the spread by scoring on an interception on rookie backup QB Stidham.

I thought the Ravens would win as they had an outstanding last quarter.

Yeah, they were close, very close to upset the KC in those final minutes. I'm sure Chiefs defense will have some extra tackling reps this week, courtesy of Lamar Jackson.  :D

Nice hit on the Lions mate, you should of taken them at the money line

I should have...


Browns v Rams play of the game, anyone? "OBJ, I'm him" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbho0-hJlIc) hahahha


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 23, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
Sequon injured and Carson fumbled again, well so much for my RB's. :)

That Rams/Browns was a great defensive game until the team depths kicked in.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 23, 2019, 03:57:14 PM
I can't believe it but my fantasy team ended up getting rekt.

I had the second highest score in the league. But my opponent had the first highest.  :-\

The worst part is I was projected to clean his clock, but he ended up putting up some stellar numbers thanks to Dak Prescott and Cooper Kupp.

At least the Rams won, and covered as well.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 23, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
I can't believe it but my fantasy team ended up getting rekt.

I had the second highest score in the league. But my opponent had the first highest.  :-\

The worst part is I was projected to clean his clock, but he ended up putting up some stellar numbers thanks to Dak Prescott and Cooper Kupp.

At least the Rams won, and covered as well.

Well Dak played miami so no surprise on that one but it was nice to see Goff/Kupp looking like they did a few years back. I'd like to see that every week. Right now i'm picking up a replacement off the wire for Goff, i'm gonna give that New QB for the Giants a Go I think.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 23, 2019, 08:16:16 PM
I can't believe it but my fantasy team ended up getting rekt.

I had the second highest score in the league. But my opponent had the first highest.  :-\

The worst part is I was projected to clean his clock, but he ended up putting up some stellar numbers thanks to Dak Prescott and Cooper Kupp.

At least the Rams won, and covered as well.

Well Dak played miami so no surprise on that one but it was nice to see Goff/Kupp looking like they did a few years back. I'd like to see that every week. Right now i'm picking up a replacement off the wire for Goff, i'm gonna give that New QB for the Giants a Go I think.

Picking up daniel jones might be a great bench stash.  It seems like the giants coordinator is fine with letting him air it out and with saquaon on the bench you might get a coue more rushing touchdowns from him as well.  I'd rather have jones over kyler murray if you are going to take a rookie quarterback


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 23, 2019, 11:10:57 PM
I'm not liking tonight's game as I'm not sure what to take. Any suggestions here on what to take in tonight's game, I was thinking of taking the over/under but just not sure right now. Do you guys think the skins can cover the spread as that's something else I was looking at.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 23, 2019, 11:45:20 PM
^ I can tell you what not to play haha, think i screwed big time going with +7.5 total points (https://i.ibb.co/LDTdMDS/fghh.png) in the first quarter. It's just not gonna happen, both teams don't have explosive offenses (does Keenums' 5 TD count as explosive)? Trubisky doesn't even have a TD thrown yet.  :-X

Why did i take that bet? omg...something really extraordinaire has to happen to even have a chance.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on September 24, 2019, 12:27:25 AM
^ I can tell you what not to play haha, think i screwed big time going with +7.5 total points (https://i.ibb.co/LDTdMDS/fghh.png) in the first quarter. It's just not gonna happen, both teams don't have explosive offenses (does Keenums' 5 TD count as explosive)? Trubisky doesn't even have a TD thrown yet.  :-X

Why did i take that bet? omg...something really extraordinaire has to happen to even have a chance.
You could cash it out if you're that nervous but I think your bet still have a good chance to win despite the bad results of the two. It's possible, with 3 field goals or a touchdown from the Redskins then field goal on the next.

My bet for this match is the Redskins moneyline for 2.98 the spread was too low for me to take I predict the match will end with a 6-7 point difference.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 24, 2019, 11:15:17 AM
You could cash it out if you're that nervous

Yeah, I totally forgot about this though with 9 minutes left and the score being 7-0, option was greyed out/unavailable.

As expected my bet didn't hit, i was one yard short of a touch back and a couple stupid/unnecessary flags thrown in the final 2 minutes, otherwise Redskins should've kicked a 30yard field goal or something. Maybe next time.  ;)

Did you guys see that $0.89 bet? Hope he hedged it...

https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1176231744992768000/photo/1



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on September 24, 2019, 02:10:43 PM
snip


Here's more nauseating stuff. It's about the Patriots and AB in particular. I'm sure yall saw that on social media already, but if you haven't, AB is being released by the team following the sexual assault allegations. What's next for AB, do you think he's done with NFL? He threatened to retire last month lol...i guess you should be careful what you wish for.
More on the story: Bleacher Report (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2853276-antonio-brown-released-by-patriots-amid-nfl-probe-into-alleged-sexual-assaults).
I think that at least he is done for the season since no team is going to try to hire him with the huge amount of baggage that he is carrying with him, it is not only the allegations against him but all the noise he is generating in social media, the distraction he will bring to the team, the possibility of being put in the exempt list and his lack of professionalism are huge read flags that teams cannot ignore.

Now while he claims that he is done with the NFL it is not like he can do something else that will pay him that kind of money so I will not be surprised if he changed his mind.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 24, 2019, 11:06:21 PM
I lost my bet on the skins covering the spread but I got the over on the total points thanks to the Bears having a big second quarter. I don't think I'll be touching the skins again this season as they have let me down two times already.

Thursday night's game is going to be a ripper, I'm leaning towards the packers but that could change in the coming days lol. What do you guys think?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 24, 2019, 11:12:52 PM
You could cash it out if you're that nervous

Yeah, I totally forgot about this though with 9 minutes left and the score being 7-0, option was greyed out/unavailable.

As expected my bet didn't hit, i was one yard short of a touch back and a couple stupid/unnecessary flags thrown in the final 2 minutes, otherwise Redskins should've kicked a 30yard field goal or something. Maybe next time.  ;)

Did you guys see that $0.89 bet? Hope he hedged it...

https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1176231744992768000/photo/1




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFLPVCiU4AAF0aD.jpg:small

Damn, where does he get his info! ;D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 25, 2019, 05:03:01 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFLPVCiU4AAF0aD.jpg:small

Damn, where does he get his info! ;D

Whoops, almost! Well as the Twitter comments said, hopefully he hedged it, if it wasn't fake. One thing about putting down an $0.89 bet it means you probably don't have much capital to do a whole lot of hedging.

New poll up:

09/29 4:25 PM

[271] MINNESOTA
[272] CHICAGO     

Conventional wisdom proved correct last time (1 for 3), will it strike again?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: DaveF on September 26, 2019, 08:52:17 PM
Several outlets are reporting that NFL owners are a proposing 17-game slate.

Link to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate)

If they do eliminate the preseason games I think fans are going to riot.
I know I like the preseason.

-Dave


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 27, 2019, 04:26:12 AM
Several outlets are reporting that NFL owners are a proposing 17-game slate.

Link to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate)

If they do eliminate the preseason games I think fans are going to riot.
I know I like the preseason.

-Dave

Just the hard core fans. Pre-season is not really indicative of the fielded team so basically all it really does is get players injured before the season starts. What they should do is work out something with colleges to field drafted players v/s established collegiate teams in a new bowl style playoff series.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 27, 2019, 07:01:24 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFLPVCiU4AAF0aD.jpg:small

Damn, where does he get his info! ;D

Whoops, almost! Well as the Twitter comments said, hopefully he hedged it, if it wasn't fake. One thing about putting down an $0.89 bet it means you probably don't have much capital to do a whole lot of hedging.

New poll up:

09/29 4:25 PM

[271] MINNESOTA
[272] CHICAGO     

Conventional wisdom proved correct last time (1 for 3), will it strike again?

I like Minnesota in this game.  It all hinges on dalvin cook and if he can get going against the bears defense, if not they will have a tough time in the air.  One thing that puzzles me is digg's, dude is a monster and just hasn't put up the numbers yet.  I expect a big game soon from him too


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 27, 2019, 09:23:26 PM
Had a pretty tough time picking a team but I ended up voting Bears for the weekly poll, i have the Bears also cover the spread (-2).  I just can't see them lose a second home NFC North game. Trubisky had a decent performance v Redskins with three touchdowns so he should be alright + Bears will be rocking throwback uniforms on Sunday.  :P


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 28, 2019, 02:05:46 AM
I picked up and played Greenbay's D so it my fault. :)


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on September 28, 2019, 04:39:52 PM
Several outlets are reporting that NFL owners are a proposing 17-game slate.

Link to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate)

If they do eliminate the preseason games I think fans are going to riot.
I know I like the preseason.

-Dave
I am against a season of 17 games, despite the changes on the rules to try to protect players, especially the quarterbacks, during the season we have seen an important number of them to be injured and it is only week four, besides the preseason is useful to see many of the rookie players and how they perform against an higher level of competition, and finally adding another game to the season seems like an attempt to help players break records that seem unbreakable right now and I do not like that kind of stats inflation.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 28, 2019, 11:46:12 PM
This Sunday I'm going for some value in my parlay as last week I did good.

My picks Browns +7.5, Panthers +4.5, Raiders +6.5, Chargers money line, Giants money line and Jaguars money line.

Odds $27.21

Bet $10 for a return of $272.14

As I said I'm going for some value this week so lets see what happens.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on September 29, 2019, 03:20:09 AM
Several outlets are reporting that NFL owners are a proposing 17-game slate.

Link to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27707277/sources-nfl-owners-proposing-17-game-slate)

If they do eliminate the preseason games I think fans are going to riot.
I know I like the preseason.

-Dave
I am against a season of 17 games, despite the changes on the rules to try to protect players, especially the quarterbacks, during the season we have seen an important number of them to be injured and it is only week four, besides the preseason is useful to see many of the rookie players and how they perform against an higher level of competition, and finally adding another game to the season seems like an attempt to help players break records that seem unbreakable right now and I do not like that kind of stats inflation.

There will also be stats that are tougher to break like undefeated seasons. I think the reason for increasing the season is for all teams to play outside the country so that it is a business decision on expanding the game rather than having any focus on stats. Also each team would play one game outside the country so that should in theory effect them all similarly as far as the jet lag effect goes.

What they should be doing IMO is expanding the team size if they are going to extend the season as they will need more depth. But who is to say whether removing pre season and expanding the regular season will result in more or less injuries. i would postulate there will be more injuries in high value players but less injuries overall.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 29, 2019, 10:46:06 AM
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Good luck with your parlay,

My main focus is on the Rams and Goff who is playing way much better at home. I do expect an easy double-digit win.
I also have Saints upsetting the Cowboys, i'm not sure upset is the right word here, but oddsmakers have given Dallas a slight advantage.
And last but not least, Bills ain't starting the season 4-0. :D Patriots are going to take care of business here.

https://i.ibb.co/Cw3VM5k/sundayhps.png https://i.ibb.co/5n87bWs/sundayml.png


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on September 29, 2019, 07:59:33 PM
I also have Saints upsetting the Cowboys, i'm not sure upset is the right word here, but oddsmakers have given Dallas a slight advantage.
And last but not least, Bills ain't starting the season 4-0. :D Patriots are going to take care of business here.
I also have Patriots on my parlay (I combined it with the Chiefs) only went with the match winner I didn't take the handicap because heavily favored teams could suddenly struggle.  

I haven't placed bets for the next set of matches but I like the Vikings and the Saints. I think there's some kind of recency bias on the Cowboys that's why the odds are so favored on their side even though it's a road game for them the Saints are still a playoff team.

Edit : Those two games are so crazy close almost count my parlay out after the Lions scored a td with few minutes left.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 29, 2019, 08:24:22 PM
My picks for today are so off it's not even funny, i was actually warned about the Falcons but i didn't listen.

Bill lost but had a chance even without Allen, Barkley fucked up the last drive with an interception. Of course, my -6.5 didn't hit.

vella85 is 5 for 6 so far, rooting for Jaguars to win!!!


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 29, 2019, 09:32:29 PM
I just need the Jaguars to win but its not looking good at the moment as they are down 14 - 3 half way through the second quarter. I was going to take them to cover the spread like I did with the other underdogs however I wanted to add some value so I took the risk on the money line. Lets see what happens and good luck to the ones betting on tonight's game.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 29, 2019, 11:03:57 PM
Its going to be a close end to the Broncos/Jaguars game, I'm really hoping that the Jags can hold on for the win as they have played well to fight their way back into the game in the third quarter and now I just need them to hold on for the win to collect my parlay.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on September 29, 2019, 11:43:35 PM
Its going to be a close end to the Broncos/Jaguars game, I'm really hoping that the Jags can hold on for the win as they have played well to fight their way back into the game in the third quarter and now I just need them to hold on for the win to collect my parlay.

Damn what an insane ending to the game, congrats!
I thought it was over for you after that Denver/Flacco final drive 5/5 despite the 10yard penalty.
Your parlay with 27 odds total is the early nominee for bet of the year we share here. I honestly don't think anyone will match it soon. Impressive!

So many away team wins today/week4 games - 11 total with Cowboys having a chance to make it 12. Maybe i should go with Bengals tomorrow?  ::)
Lol @Rams getting spanked at home (Goff 3 INT), at least i'm still perfect for the weekly poll. Bears 16:6 MIN with Trubisky out early in the 1st.



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on September 30, 2019, 07:27:26 AM
Its going to be a close end to the Broncos/Jaguars game, I'm really hoping that the Jags can hold on for the win as they have played well to fight their way back into the game in the third quarter and now I just need them to hold on for the win to collect my parlay.

Damn what an insane ending to the game, congrats!
I thought it was over for you after that Denver/Flacco final drive 5/5 despite the 10yard penalty.
Your parlay with 27 odds total is the early nominee for bet of the year we share here. I honestly don't think anyone will match it soon. Impressive!

So many away team wins today/week4 games - 11 total with Cowboys having a chance to make it 12. Maybe i should go with Bengals tomorrow?  ::)
Lol @Rams getting spanked at home (Goff 3 INT), at least i'm still perfect for the weekly poll. Bears 16:6 MIN with Trubisky out early in the 1st.



Yeah mate that was insane, to be honest with you I was very nervous once the Broncos scored and went ahead 24-23 and thought I would lose by 1 point. Thanks mate as I didn't know there was bet of the year, I don't think I'll top that, I also won the same parlay betting with AceDBets but I didn't have the Giants and Chargers in that but still won over 7700 AceD coins from an outlay of 500 AceD coins. So it was a great day for me.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on September 30, 2019, 01:10:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFLPVCiU4AAF0aD.jpg:small

Damn, where does he get his info! ;D

Whoops, almost! Well as the Twitter comments said, hopefully he hedged it, if it wasn't fake. One thing about putting down an $0.89 bet it means you probably don't have much capital to do a whole lot of hedging.

New poll up:

09/29 4:25 PM

[271] MINNESOTA
[272] CHICAGO      

Conventional wisdom proved correct last time (1 for 3), will it strike again?

I like Minnesota in this game.  It all hinges on dalvin cook and if he can get going against the bears defense, if not they will have a tough time in the air.  One thing that puzzles me is digg's, dude is a monster and just hasn't put up the numbers yet.  I expect a big game soon from him too

Good thing I didnt throw anything on this one lol.  NFL is so tough to bet.  Who had the bucs dropping 55 on the rams, in Los Angeles!  That was definately the upset of the week.  Next week looking forward to see what the giants can do, redskins were not a good test everyone is gonna beat up on that team this year.  Danny dimes looks like the real deal


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on September 30, 2019, 02:47:25 PM
Good thing I didnt throw anything on this one lol.  NFL is so tough to bet.  Who had the bucs dropping 55 on the rams, in Los Angeles!  That was definately the upset of the week.  Next week looking forward to see what the giants can do, redskins were not a good test everyone is gonna beat up on that team this year.  Danny dimes looks like the real deal

Word. I think NFL has got to be just about _the_ hardest league sport to bet. So many factors to make the outcome unpredictable. I sure as hell would have never picked the Buccaneers to beat the Rams! At least my fantasy team won...


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 01, 2019, 12:00:54 AM
For tonight's game I'm leaning more towards the Bengals as the road teams have won so far on Monday night football. I don't like the spread at +3.5 so I might just go with the Bengals at the money line. Good luck to the ones betting tonight.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2019, 02:47:04 PM
For tonight's game I'm leaning more towards the Bengals as the road teams have won so far on Monday night football. I don't like the spread at +3.5 so I might just go with the Bengals at the money line. Good luck to the ones betting tonight.

Dam...that was a rough game.  Steelers with 8 sacks, dalton never had a chance.  There run game still looks weak.  I just think the bengals look that bad.  Between the redskins, bengals and the miami there is gonna be a real battle for the first draft pick next year lol.  Week 5 up next!


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2019, 05:00:13 PM
New poll up!

[301] LA RAMS
[302] SEATTLE

The line opened at 0 - 0 on some books but has since shifted to -1.5 or -2 Seattle on most.

I am partial to the Rams. Ah shit I just noticed this game is the Thursday game!!

OK well you have 2 days to vote, have at it!  :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on October 01, 2019, 05:24:55 PM
I am against a season of 17 games, despite the changes on the rules to try to protect players, especially the quarterbacks, during the season we have seen an important number of them to be injured and it is only week four, besides the preseason is useful to see many of the rookie players and how they perform against an higher level of competition, and finally adding another game to the season seems like an attempt to help players break records that seem unbreakable right now and I do not like that kind of stats inflation.

There will also be stats that are tougher to break like undefeated seasons. I think the reason for increasing the season is for all teams to play outside the country so that it is a business decision on expanding the game rather than having any focus on stats. Also each team would play one game outside the country so that should in theory effect them all similarly as far as the jet lag effect goes.

What they should be doing IMO is expanding the team size if they are going to extend the season as they will need more depth. But who is to say whether removing pre season and expanding the regular season will result in more or less injuries. i would postulate there will be more injuries in high value players but less injuries overall.
From a business point of view it makes sense to have more games and I understand the desire of the NFL to try to expand its popularity to other countries, but when it comes to the records, some records will be harder to break but I speculate that the majority will be way easier, just look at Pat Mahomes if you give him another game then he could surpass Peyton Manning's record of 5477 of yards and 55 TD very easily and at some point he will probably throw for 6000 yards and 60 touchdowns in a season and it is likely that throwing 5000 yards will become the new standard for quarterbacks.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 01, 2019, 06:08:53 PM
New poll up!

I'm registering a vote for my Seahawks.

Rams fucked my parlay with Goff throwing 3 interceptions, Gurley with just 5 carries for 16 yards. The lack of defensive effort yesterday allowing Bucs to score 55pts has to be very concerning coming into an early week5 game. That's why i'm giving the Seahawks a slight advantage.

Btw, I just caught on a podcast that the Rams are 1-4 or 1-5 against the spread on Thursday night.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 01, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
New poll up!

I'm registering a vote for my Seahawks.

Rams fucked my parlay with Goff throwing 3 interceptions, Gurley with just 5 carries for 16 yards. The lack of defensive effort yesterday allowing Bucs to score 55pts has to be very concerning coming into an early week5 game. That's why i'm giving the Seahawks a slight advantage.

Btw, I just caught on a podcast that the Rams are 1-4 or 1-5 against the spread on Thursday night.

Teams dont play more than 1 maybe 2 games on a thursday so the record on Thursdays dont mean much because it depends on the opponent and the team construct in a particular year.  Some stats just dont matter that much.

For me I am on the rams for this game, you can bet the rams defense is going to get their act straight after a game like that against the bucs. I'm on the rams this week.  Kupp, woods and cooks each with a td this week, 30-20 rams win my guess


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 01, 2019, 11:56:28 PM
For tonight's game I'm leaning more towards the Bengals as the road teams have won so far on Monday night football. I don't like the spread at +3.5 so I might just go with the Bengals at the money line. Good luck to the ones betting tonight.

Dam...that was a rough game.  Steelers with 8 sacks, dalton never had a chance.  There run game still looks weak.  I just think the bengals look that bad.  Between the redskins, bengals and the miami there is gonna be a real battle for the first draft pick next year lol.  Week 5 up next!

Well I did end up going with the Bengals at the money line as I thought they were in with a big chance to win this game but as you said the Bengals looked bad and I'm not sure if they will be any good all season. The Redskins are okay and not as bad as the Dolphins and Bengals so I think it will be out of these two who get the first draft pick.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 02, 2019, 01:19:41 AM
I am against a season of 17 games, despite the changes on the rules to try to protect players, especially the quarterbacks, during the season we have seen an important number of them to be injured and it is only week four, besides the preseason is useful to see many of the rookie players and how they perform against an higher level of competition, and finally adding another game to the season seems like an attempt to help players break records that seem unbreakable right now and I do not like that kind of stats inflation.

There will also be stats that are tougher to break like undefeated seasons. I think the reason for increasing the season is for all teams to play outside the country so that it is a business decision on expanding the game rather than having any focus on stats. Also each team would play one game outside the country so that should in theory effect them all similarly as far as the jet lag effect goes.

What they should be doing IMO is expanding the team size if they are going to extend the season as they will need more depth. But who is to say whether removing pre season and expanding the regular season will result in more or less injuries. i would postulate there will be more injuries in high value players but less injuries overall.
From a business point of view it makes sense to have more games and I understand the desire of the NFL to try to expand its popularity to other countries, but when it comes to the records, some records will be harder to break but I speculate that the majority will be way easier, just look at Pat Mahomes if you give him another game then he could surpass Peyton Manning's record of 5477 of yards and 55 TD very easily and at some point he will probably throw for 6000 yards and 60 touchdowns in a season and it is likely that throwing 5000 yards will become the new standard for quarterbacks.

True but all changes have been helping QB's. Hell they pulled Foles (iiRc it was the next week!) so he wouldn't break Mannings 7 Td record so take all these records with a little bit of salt. ;)

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1835857-nick-foles-ties-nfl-single-game-record-with-7-touchdown-passes

Peyton has been Coddled by the league since day 1.


Rams/Seagulls will be a great game I think and I believe Goff should bounce back as he was starting to look good with his Kupp and woods connections finally. He still need to get his Cooks timing down again and stop throwing to the wrong team. :)

SeaGulls TE really looks like he's the real deal, Reincarnation of graham. Dissly should open up Locket and moore as well a Carson. A strong TE can be a massive bullet for a team.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 02, 2019, 01:04:50 PM
I am against a season of 17 games, despite the changes on the rules to try to protect players, especially the quarterbacks, during the season we have seen an important number of them to be injured and it is only week four, besides the preseason is useful to see many of the rookie players and how they perform against an higher level of competition, and finally adding another game to the season seems like an attempt to help players break records that seem unbreakable right now and I do not like that kind of stats inflation.

There will also be stats that are tougher to break like undefeated seasons. I think the reason for increasing the season is for all teams to play outside the country so that it is a business decision on expanding the game rather than having any focus on stats. Also each team would play one game outside the country so that should in theory effect them all similarly as far as the jet lag effect goes.

What they should be doing IMO is expanding the team size if they are going to extend the season as they will need more depth. But who is to say whether removing pre season and expanding the regular season will result in more or less injuries. i would postulate there will be more injuries in high value players but less injuries overall.
From a business point of view it makes sense to have more games and I understand the desire of the NFL to try to expand its popularity to other countries, but when it comes to the records, some records will be harder to break but I speculate that the majority will be way easier, just look at Pat Mahomes if you give him another game then he could surpass Peyton Manning's record of 5477 of yards and 55 TD very easily and at some point he will probably throw for 6000 yards and 60 touchdowns in a season and it is likely that throwing 5000 yards will become the new standard for quarterbacks.

True but all changes have been helping QB's. Hell they pulled Foles (iiRc it was the next week!) so he wouldn't break Mannings 7 Td record so take all these records with a little bit of salt. ;)

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1835857-nick-foles-ties-nfl-single-game-record-with-7-touchdown-passes

Peyton has been Coddled by the league since day 1.


Rams/Seagulls will be a great game I think and I believe Goff should bounce back as he was starting to look good with his Kupp and woods connections finally. He still need to get his Cooks timing down again and stop throwing to the wrong team. :)

SeaGulls TE really looks like he's the real deal, Reincarnation of graham. Dissly should open up Locket and moore as well a Carson. A strong TE can be a massive bullet for a team.

Just be careful, Seahawks at home are always tough to beat and traditionally Goff is not that good away from his home stadium.  In different leagues I have a combination of golf, cup, and cooks so it might be a tough week for me.  Hoping you are right and Goff has a good game but that hawks stadium is fierce


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 02, 2019, 10:55:58 PM
I am against a season of 17 games, despite the changes on the rules to try to protect players, especially the quarterbacks, during the season we have seen an important number of them to be injured and it is only week four, besides the preseason is useful to see many of the rookie players and how they perform against an higher level of competition, and finally adding another game to the season seems like an attempt to help players break records that seem unbreakable right now and I do not like that kind of stats inflation.

There will also be stats that are tougher to break like undefeated seasons. I think the reason for increasing the season is for all teams to play outside the country so that it is a business decision on expanding the game rather than having any focus on stats. Also each team would play one game outside the country so that should in theory effect them all similarly as far as the jet lag effect goes.

What they should be doing IMO is expanding the team size if they are going to extend the season as they will need more depth. But who is to say whether removing pre season and expanding the regular season will result in more or less injuries. i would postulate there will be more injuries in high value players but less injuries overall.
From a business point of view it makes sense to have more games and I understand the desire of the NFL to try to expand its popularity to other countries, but when it comes to the records, some records will be harder to break but I speculate that the majority will be way easier, just look at Pat Mahomes if you give him another game then he could surpass Peyton Manning's record of 5477 of yards and 55 TD very easily and at some point he will probably throw for 6000 yards and 60 touchdowns in a season and it is likely that throwing 5000 yards will become the new standard for quarterbacks.

True but all changes have been helping QB's. Hell they pulled Foles (iiRc it was the next week!) so he wouldn't break Mannings 7 Td record so take all these records with a little bit of salt. ;)

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1835857-nick-foles-ties-nfl-single-game-record-with-7-touchdown-passes

Peyton has been Coddled by the league since day 1.


Rams/Seagulls will be a great game I think and I believe Goff should bounce back as he was starting to look good with his Kupp and woods connections finally. He still need to get his Cooks timing down again and stop throwing to the wrong team. :)

SeaGulls TE really looks like he's the real deal, Reincarnation of graham. Dissly should open up Locket and moore as well a Carson. A strong TE can be a massive bullet for a team.

Just be careful, Seahawks at home are always tough to beat and traditionally Goff is not that good away from his home stadium.  In different leagues I have a combination of golf, cup, and cooks so it might be a tough week for me.  Hoping you are right and Goff has a good game but that hawks stadium is fierce

Yeah I'm undecided for tomorrow nights game so I might just stay out unless I see something I like. Well I'll be trying to back up this week after having a great week last week hitting that parlay, not sure if I'll take as many this week and try for a 4 leg parlay.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 03, 2019, 04:50:30 AM

Just be careful, Seahawks at home are always tough to beat and traditionally Goff is not that good away from his home stadium.  In different leagues I have a combination of golf, cup, and cooks so it might be a tough week for me.  Hoping you are right and Goff has a good game but that hawks stadium is fierce

Yeah, its a total gamble.
But thats how I roll. ;D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on October 03, 2019, 06:54:00 PM
I am partial to the Rams. Ah shit I just noticed this game is the Thursday game!!
I'm also leaning on the Rams I lost a bunch of times from taking the Seahawks before and it seems like the same scenario once again if I take them knowing it's their game to lose they would still somehow let me down.

I might get the over depending on the line as both teams doesn't have a hard time in scoring expecting this match to end between 46-50.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 03, 2019, 10:41:37 PM
I went with the over in tonight's game as I'm expecting a high scoring game with both teams having good offence. I'm still undecided to bet on to win, I did vote for the Seahawks in the poll as that's the team I'm leaning to however I am seeing a lot of money coming for the Rams at the money line and also to cover the spread so I'm waiting to see if the Seahawks odds blow out a bit and then I might have a bet on them. 


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: mich on October 04, 2019, 04:58:04 AM
Tonight was a great game and CONGRATS for the LA RAMS backers 1.5 with RAMS losing 30-29.
This sport AMERICAN FOOTBALL is so tricky for my to handicap.  The scores are so close to being what the bookies place it.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Harvin on October 04, 2019, 05:59:42 AM
Cleveland hope is to real at x14 they have a average defence and a terrible o-line should be more around x30


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 04, 2019, 07:15:46 AM
Tonight was a great game and CONGRATS for the LA RAMS backers 1.5 with RAMS losing 30-29.
This sport AMERICAN FOOTBALL is so tricky for my to handicap.  The scores are so close to being what the bookies place it.

Rams still lost so technically I have to count it as a loss for our poll (we are 2 and 3 since week 1, so far). But you are correct. This score was remarkably close to the line. Not all games are like that of course, but what's interesting is if you add up how off the line was from the actual score each week, for every game, the number balances out pretty dang close to 0. That means while some games are off in one direction, other games are equally off in the other direction to balance things out. I don't know how they do it every week, its almost like magic.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 04, 2019, 10:27:52 AM
Unfortunately, i couldn't watch the game (i may have to find a stream or something at least the end result suggests it was a nice game...Zuerlein missed a 44 yard fg? haha) but i'll take the W, 5-0 so far, not too shaby.

edit; just finished watching the game and i'm glad i did, i'm also glad that this win for the Seahawks wasn't spoiled by that late field goal attempt.
Russell Wilson was simply amazing, that's all i have to say. 12TD with 0 interceptions and over 1400yds this season. Not bad.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 04, 2019, 05:36:27 PM
Dam that was a good game.  All the way down to the end.  Looks like slowly the rams are going to start to unleash Gurley.  He looked great in last nights game.  This weeks upset:

Giants 27 Minn 20  :o

Lol we'll see


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 04, 2019, 11:52:56 PM
My hot run continues with hitting the over in last nights game. I was waiting for the odds to blow out a little for the Seahawks as I was leaning towards them but it didn't happen so I just stuck with my first bet on the over which was an easy win in the end.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on October 05, 2019, 07:59:58 PM
The game was great not only it was a close game but there were many great plays, one of the Seahawks touchdowns remind me of the Santonio Holmes TD on Super Bowl 43 and the interception by Thompson showed great awareness since the ball was as close as it can be to touch the ground and he still managed to intercept the ball.

I voted for the Seahawks to win this game mostly because of the weak showing by the Rams last week when they lost to Tampa Bay and the fact that the Seahawks were the locals in this game, but during the previous week I voted for the Vikings, yeah I know, what was I thinking? :P So I am currently 2-3.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 05, 2019, 11:27:16 PM
For this Sunday's games I'm taking a small parlay and hopefully I get do just as good as last week. Its a tough week to pick so I'm taking a risk with some of my picks once again.

Raiders +5.5 Jets +14.00 Saints money line Titans money line Packers +3.0

Odds =$20.68

Bet $10

Return = $206.80

Like I said I am going for some value with some of my picks. Good luck to everyone who is going to have a bet this Sunday.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: partysaurus on October 06, 2019, 02:03:23 AM
For this Sunday's games I'm taking a small parlay and hopefully I get do just as good as last week. Its a tough week to pick so I'm taking a risk with some of my picks once again.

Raiders +5.5 Jets +14.00 Saints money line Titans money line Packers +3.0

Odds =$20.68

Bet $10

Return = $206.80

Like I said I am going for some value with some of my picks. Good luck to everyone who is going to have a bet this Sunday.



can see the raider getting the upset , but ur right this weeks games are hard to predict, some games have high odds and its tempting to go for them :D but so far this season for me im getting stomped everytime i go for odds over 4 lol.

going for raiders,giants and broncos just for fun this week :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 06, 2019, 11:12:27 AM
I know Vikings has had a rough week but i'm backing them up against the Giants.
Texans already screwed me once, but Dan Quinn has to go, Falcons lose and he is fired.
I could see Chiefs dominate at home against the Colts, i have them cover the -10.5 spread.
Here's my picks for the day:

https://i.ibb.co/JtCdv5M/bearscartex.png https://i.ibb.co/Jq93r47/vikcowchiefs.png

@vella85 shooting for the stars again with that parlay, aren't you?  ;D GL!!!


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 06, 2019, 11:23:15 AM
Looks like I'll be watching the Chief/Colts tomorrow at 8:20 AM, as its the only game I can watch in real-time, unless I want to watch a game from 1 AM to 3 or 4 AM. I'll be rooting against the Chiefs as the opposing team in my fantasy league has Mahomes, who puts up points like a beast, and will probably be the reason my team loses.

Would you guys take the Colts at +11 on that game? Probably not right?

I'm looking for an easy money bet. Can't believe you can still get 10% on the Patriots ML vs the Skins. The actual line is at 16.5, which I think isn't high enough.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: partysaurus on October 06, 2019, 04:44:42 PM
took packers also this week, think they have a shot at the upset.


so packers,raiders,giants and broncos for me all underdogs lets see how this goes, so far this season has been ruff for the team comming in as a underdog but think that will change this week :P


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 06, 2019, 09:27:47 PM
I knew I shouldn't of went with the Titans lol, they let me down along with the Jets. The Jets would have to be the worst team in the NFL right now with another poor performance, they got smashed in today's game. The Raiders was my best pick and the Packers which are playing well right now leading the Cowboys 14-0 half way through the second quarter. Its looking good for the ones that took them to cover the spread.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 06, 2019, 09:48:53 PM
Second straight losing week for me and my parlays. I didn't do any better in my fantasy league either. Speaking of fantasy leagues, the combo D.Watson (426 pass yards, 5 td) and W.Fuller (217 yrd, 3 td) + McCaffrey's performance should be enough to secure a win. I didn't draft any of them on my team.  ;D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on October 06, 2019, 11:58:00 PM
Did terrible on the early matches I got lured into the 1st half handicap of the Pats which was like -7. Later on, I broke even after a few risky live bets taking the under 2nd half on the Bills game, Cardinals and the Packers moneyline.

I'm pounding the -9.5 Chiefs spread as my last bet the Colts have been scoring a lot but Chiefs will likely cover.

I didn't do any better in my fantasy league either. Speaking of fantasy leagues, the combo D.Watson (426 pass yards, 5 td) and W.Fuller (217 yrd, 3 td) + McCaffrey's performance should be enough to secure a win. I didn't draft any of them on my team.  ;D
I'm literally dead last currently placed at 500+ some of my players only had single digit points my total was somewhere 70. I'm still waiting on a few players as the Chiefs match haven't started but I don't think it's enough to get me in at least top 100. It would be a miracle if I get at least 80-100 points from both players.

Edit: There goes my chiefs handicap. What a hold by the Colts. 


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 07, 2019, 12:40:36 AM
took packers also this week, think they have a shot at the upset.


so packers,raiders,giants and broncos for me all underdogs lets see how this goes, so far this season has been ruff for the team comming in as a underdog but think that will change this week :P

3 for 4, not bad.

I'm up about 3 hours early today, ready to go to the only place in town that plays football games. Hope they have coffee.

Patriots trounced the Skins, and I'll be darned my fantasy team has its highest score ever. I'm actually set to win, thanks to stellar performances by Michael Thomas and Aaron Jones. I don't think there's any way Mahomes can overcome the deficit of my opponent.  8)


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 07, 2019, 01:28:30 AM
took packers also this week, think they have a shot at the upset.


so packers,raiders,giants and broncos for me all underdogs lets see how this goes, so far this season has been ruff for the team comming in as a underdog but think that will change this week :P

3 for 4, not bad.

I'm up about 3 hours early today, ready to go to the only place in town that plays football games. Hope they have coffee.

Patriots trounced the Skins, and I'll be darned my fantasy team has its highest score ever. I'm actually set to win, thanks to stellar performances by Michael Thomas and Aaron Jones. I don't think there's any way Mahomes can overcome the deficit of my opponent.  8)

Yeah that was a nice job on those picks. Funny thing is i have Thomas on one team and against me on the other so he won me one and lost me one. :)

Unless Kelce can put up similar numbers which doesn't look good with the drops he started with.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: rdbase on October 07, 2019, 02:44:45 AM
Did terrible on the early matches I got lured into the 1st half handicap of the Pats which was like -7. Later on, I broke even after a few risky live bets taking the under 2nd half on the Bills game, Cardinals and the Packers moneyline.

I'm pounding the -9.5 Chiefs spread as my last bet the Colts have been scoring a lot but Chiefs will likely cover.
What do you think? Is it time to load up on the chiefs to win their game being down 3 going into the 4th quarter? :-\
Even though their few couple of drives were bad mahomes can put this one out of the fire to keep their unbeaten streak alive and go 5n0 on the season.
Odds were 5.00x for colts pregame for them to win.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 07, 2019, 04:44:02 AM
Did terrible on the early matches I got lured into the 1st half handicap of the Pats which was like -7. Later on, I broke even after a few risky live bets taking the under 2nd half on the Bills game, Cardinals and the Packers moneyline.

I'm pounding the -9.5 Chiefs spread as my last bet the Colts have been scoring a lot but Chiefs will likely cover.
What do you think? Is it time to load up on the chiefs to win their game being down 3 going into the 4th quarter? :-\
Even though their few couple of drives were bad mahomes can put this one out of the fire to keep their unbeaten streak alive and go 5n0 on the season.
Odds were 5.00x for colts pregame for them to win.

That did not go the way I expected it either! Just goes to show, every week there's at least one major upset. Mahomes still racked up decent QB points but didn't come close to posing a threat to my lead. Our league's scoring system is a bit wonky but I won by a margin of 23%.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 07, 2019, 04:44:37 PM
Did terrible on the early matches I got lured into the 1st half handicap of the Pats which was like -7. Later on, I broke even after a few risky live bets taking the under 2nd half on the Bills game, Cardinals and the Packers moneyline.

I'm pounding the -9.5 Chiefs spread as my last bet the Colts have been scoring a lot but Chiefs will likely cover.
What do you think? Is it time to load up on the chiefs to win their game being down 3 going into the 4th quarter? :-\
Even though their few couple of drives were bad mahomes can put this one out of the fire to keep their unbeaten streak alive and go 5n0 on the season.
Odds were 5.00x for colts pregame for them to win.

That's the nfl, really tough to pick em.  The colts winning in kansas city was definately a huge upset.  First time I got to watch the colts and they looked awesome.  Marlon mack looked unstoppable at times, wish I looked at him harder before my fantasy draft, would have scooped him up.  Already cant wait for next week.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on October 08, 2019, 12:00:02 AM
Anyone interested on the Browns-49ers match? both teams looks very unpredictable but I slightly like the 49ers because they beat the Steelers on their last match. Then again you have the Browns who are undefeated on the road and beat the Ravens at home which is one of the big favorites. I'm undecided between the two, for the total i'm going with the under. The defense of these teams looks to be enough to keep the match under 48.

Edit: Took the 49ers -4.5 before the lines closed.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: rdbase on October 08, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
^^
Thats what line I picked for for my first bet in the prediction competition. ;)
49ers are undefeated so they just might fall tonight against a hungry browns team who havent done very good lately.
Watched clevelands first game of the season while playing at home. They penalized the other team so much it drove them back almost half the field length in a quarter of the game.
So the under is a good pick.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 08, 2019, 12:33:18 AM
Anyone interested on the Browns-49ers match? both teams looks very unpredictable but I slightly like the 49ers because they beat the Steelers on their last match. Then again you have the Browns who are undefeated on the road and beat the Ravens at home which is one of the big favorites. I'm undecided between the two, for the total i'm going with the under. The defense of these teams looks to be enough to keep the match under 48.

Edit: Took the 49ers -4.5 before the lines closed.

I like the 49ers on that spread.  The browns are too unpredictable and the 9ers defense is legit.  If they can keep a solid pass game going they will be tough to beat and will probably make for the hardest division this year with the rams and the Seahawks.  I can see both wildcard teams coming out of that division and only the division winners out of the other 3.  I would take the under on the game as well.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: rdbase on October 08, 2019, 03:25:42 AM
Anyone interested on the Browns-49ers match? both teams looks very unpredictable but I slightly like the 49ers because they beat the Steelers on their last match. Then again you have the Browns who are undefeated on the road and beat the Ravens at home which is one of the big favorites. I'm undecided between the two, for the total i'm going with the under. The defense of these teams looks to be enough to keep the match under 48.

Edit: Took the 49ers -4.5 before the lines closed.

I like the 49ers on that spread.  The browns are too unpredictable and the 9ers defense is legit.  If they can keep a solid pass game going they will be tough to beat and will probably make for the hardest division this year with the rams and the Seahawks.  I can see both wildcard teams coming out of that division and only the division winners out of the other 3.  I would take the under on the game as well.
The under was a solid pick since it was a lop sided game and the 49ers had a rookie place kicker who misplaced the ball a few times. The kicker was a rookie I think with all those missed field goals he has had in the season so far. Those all contributed to 49ers not getting more than 45 points which I thought they would of gotten by half time.
Luckily cleveland couldnt score even a touchdown or it would of been very close to the 48 point under which was good value for those who picked it on the game.
I think I saw a -25.5 line for san francisco when I was looking at the lines but didnt think of choosing it since cleveland was just so bad tonight.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: mich on October 08, 2019, 05:09:33 AM
I just saw that the 49ERS are 4-0 and the only undefeated team in the NFC  :o
First time since 1990 when the great Joe Montana was throwing TDs to JERRY RICE


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 08, 2019, 05:23:00 PM
Anyone interested on the Browns-49ers match? both teams looks very unpredictable but I slightly like the 49ers because they beat the Steelers on their last match. Then again you have the Browns who are undefeated on the road and beat the Ravens at home which is one of the big favorites. I'm undecided between the two, for the total i'm going with the under. The defense of these teams looks to be enough to keep the match under 48.

Edit: Took the 49ers -4.5 before the lines closed.

I like the 49ers on that spread.  The browns are too unpredictable and the 9ers defense is legit.  If they can keep a solid pass game going they will be tough to beat and will probably make for the hardest division this year with the rams and the Seahawks.  I can see both wildcard teams coming out of that division and only the division winners out of the other 3.  I would take the under on the game as well.
The under was a solid pick since it was a lop sided game and the 49ers had a rookie place kicker who misplaced the ball a few times. The kicker was a rookie I think with all those missed field goals he has had in the season so far. Those all contributed to 49ers not getting more than 45 points which I thought they would of gotten by half time.
Luckily cleveland couldnt score even a touchdown or it would of been very close to the 48 point under which was good value for those who picked it on the game.
I think I saw a -25.5 line for san francisco when I was looking at the lines but didnt think of choosing it since cleveland was just so bad tonight.

-25.5 line that is too big for any game that does not have the miami dolphins playing in it.  For this week the giants are going to have a rough time with new england.  The giants are without barkley, now shepherd their #1 wr and possibly engram the next best receiver although he is their TE.  Tom brady should make quick work of their defense, in new england on a prime time game.  I actually hope the giants win but cant see anyway that they do


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 08, 2019, 10:41:06 PM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

My early parlay

Giants +16.5, Buccaneers +2.0, Bengals +11.5, Eagles +3.0, Browns +1.5

Odds $24.31

Outlay $10

Return $243.19

I'm also liking the over for Thursday nights game but haven't placed my bet yet.

As you can see I like to go with some value when taking parlays as they can pay off big for a small outlay so I'm willing to take the risk.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 09, 2019, 05:30:43 AM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

I think that's a good bet... No reason for the Pats to try to run up the score, and I think the Giants will put up more of a fight than the Skins could. I predict the Pats win by 14. Right now the spread is 16.5 -- you should be safe.

I have Daniel Jones, the Giants' new QB as my backup, but there's zero chance I'm playing him this week. Gonna wait until Carson Wentz has a bye week.

New poll up:

[259] NEW ORLEANS
[260] JACKSONVILLE


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 09, 2019, 05:49:03 PM
[259] NEW ORLEANS
[260] JACKSONVILLE

I have a feeling that my winning streak for the weekly poll is coming to an end this Sunday, regardless, i'm going with Minshew and the Jaguars at home against a team that is currently on a three-game winning streak and second in the power rankings behind the Patriots.

Why exactly are the Jags (-1) being favored in this game?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 09, 2019, 11:18:29 PM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

I think that's a good bet... No reason for the Pats to try to run up the score, and I think the Giants will put up more of a fight than the Skins could. I predict the Pats win by 14. Right now the spread is 16.5 -- you should be safe.

I have Daniel Jones, the Giants' new QB as my backup, but there's zero chance I'm playing him this week. Gonna wait until Carson Wentz has a bye week.

New poll up:

[259] NEW ORLEANS
[260] JACKSONVILLE

I should of waited a little longer as the spreads have been pushed out .5 except for the Eagles spread however the odds for the Eagles spread has gone out to $1.95, anyway I still think that the teams have a good chance at covering the spreads. I think the Giants will surprise a lot of people in this game as the money is heavy on the Pats to cover the spread but at home the Pats are 1-1 ATS and the Giants are 1-1 away ATS so its not clear cut for over 80% of the money on the Pats to cover.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 10, 2019, 12:26:00 AM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

My early parlay

Giants +16.5, Buccaneers +2.0, Bengals +11.5, Eagles +3.0, Browns +1.5

Odds $24.31

Outlay $10

Return $243.19

I'm also liking the over for Thursday nights game but haven't placed my bet yet.

As you can see I like to go with some value when taking parlays as they can pay off big for a small outlay so I'm willing to take the risk.

The only thing with the giants is that both barkley and gallman are out.  Sheppard is out and I think engram is out.  That is pretty much the entire offense.  The only hope is that danny dimes enjoys his first game on prime time and goes nuts.  I hope so, giants sucked for a bunch of years now and want to see them finally be decent again.  The over is probably a good bet.  What is it right now?


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 10, 2019, 02:59:19 AM
Shit. I got drunk and Rage Dropped Dak half way through the game last week! :D

W00ps

I still have Brady.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 10, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Shit. I got drunk and Rage Dropped Dak half way through the game last week! :D

W00ps

I still have Brady.

Lol in your defense that was one pathetic first half.  That second half though was pretty amazing.  I'm not sold on dak being a top quarterback, makes too many questionable moves and just cant make all the throws.  I hope cowboys sign him to a 10 year contract and he ends up being mediocre for 10 years  :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 10, 2019, 11:13:47 PM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

My early parlay

Giants +16.5, Buccaneers +2.0, Bengals +11.5, Eagles +3.0, Browns +1.5

Odds $24.31

Outlay $10

Return $243.19

I'm also liking the over for Thursday nights game but haven't placed my bet yet.

As you can see I like to go with some value when taking parlays as they can pay off big for a small outlay so I'm willing to take the risk.

The only thing with the giants is that both barkley and gallman are out.  Sheppard is out and I think engram is out.  That is pretty much the entire offense.  The only hope is that danny dimes enjoys his first game on prime time and goes nuts.  I hope so, giants sucked for a bunch of years now and want to see them finally be decent again.  The over is probably a good bet.  What is it right now?

I know mate, it doesn't look good for the Giants with all these players out but I got a feeling that they cover the spread. The over has been jumping around a bit, I saw it at 42 and now its currently at 43. The Giants are back into +16.5 and the Bengals have come into +10.5 so the markets are jumping around a bit.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 11, 2019, 08:58:15 PM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

My early parlay

Giants +16.5, Buccaneers +2.0, Bengals +11.5, Eagles +3.0, Browns +1.5

Odds $24.31

Outlay $10

Return $243.19

I'm also liking the over for Thursday nights game but haven't placed my bet yet.

As you can see I like to go with some value when taking parlays as they can pay off big for a small outlay so I'm willing to take the risk.

The only thing with the giants is that both barkley and gallman are out.  Sheppard is out and I think engram is out.  That is pretty much the entire offense.  The only hope is that danny dimes enjoys his first game on prime time and goes nuts.  I hope so, giants sucked for a bunch of years now and want to see them finally be decent again.  The over is probably a good bet.  What is it right now?

I know mate, it doesn't look good for the Giants with all these players out but I got a feeling that they cover the spread. The over has been jumping around a bit, I saw it at 42 and now its currently at 43. The Giants are back into +16.5 and the Bengals have come into +10.5 so the markets are jumping around a bit.

Dam that was looking decent but a defensive touchdown and a punt block for a touchdown was the downfall.  The giants hung in there but some critical turnovers changed the game.  I hope you at least got the over in.  Barkley and sheperd should be coming back next week so hopefully giants can hang in there


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 11, 2019, 10:44:31 PM
Dam that was looking decent but a defensive touchdown and a punt block for a touchdown was the downfall.  The giants hung in there but some critical turnovers changed the game.  I hope you at least got the over in.  Barkley and sheperd should be coming back next week so hopefully giants can hang in there

It felt more like Brady keeping them in the game early with his bad passes/plays than the Giants making any stops. He had a pretty subpar game despite the 2 rushing TD and the 300+ passing yards. I honestly can't wait to see them face a decent team, their schedule so far is beyond ridiculous and they play the Jets next week. Haha



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: South Park on October 12, 2019, 04:16:48 PM
Dam that was looking decent but a defensive touchdown and a punt block for a touchdown was the downfall.  The giants hung in there but some critical turnovers changed the game.  I hope you at least got the over in.  Barkley and sheperd should be coming back next week so hopefully giants can hang in there

It felt more like Brady keeping them in the game early with his bad passes/plays than the Giants making any stops. He had a pretty subpar game despite the 2 rushing TD and the 300+ passing yards. I honestly can't wait to see them face a decent team, their schedule so far is beyond ridiculous and they play the Jets next week. Haha


I agree, the statistics of Brady are fine but when you see the game you can see there is something off, even if we consider there are many injures in the Patriots offence and that Brady himself is injured he has not looked like himself during the whole season, so despite his claims that he wants to play until he is 45 I really think this one or the next one will be his final season, however I really think their defence is the real deal since they are forcing turnovers all the time and that is critical to win football games.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 12, 2019, 04:58:42 PM
Dam that was looking decent but a defensive touchdown and a punt block for a touchdown was the downfall.  The giants hung in there but some critical turnovers changed the game.  I hope you at least got the over in.  Barkley and sheperd should be coming back next week so hopefully giants can hang in there

It's a pretty fucked up year when you dread playing a team that has NE's D.
Lol quite the aberration. :)

It felt more like Brady keeping them in the game early with his bad passes/plays than the Giants making any stops. He had a pretty subpar game despite the 2 rushing TD and the 300+ passing yards. I honestly can't wait to see them face a decent team, their schedule so far is beyond ridiculous and they play the Jets next week. Haha

Truer words were never spoken! That is the only reason I drafted Brady and I'm a NE fan! Wish I had grabbed their D like in past years but i wasn't going to allow myself to get screwed again (believing the hype again) by making that mistake. I feel soo smart now! :D

I agree, the statistics of Brady are fine but when you see the game you can see there is something off, even if we consider there are many injures in the Patriots offence and that Brady himself is injured he has not looked like himself during the whole season, so despite his claims that he wants to play until he is 45 I really think this one or the next one will be his final season, however I really think their defence is the real deal since they are forcing turnovers all the time and that is critical to win football games.

He's no longer Mobile in the pocket and its apparent he has a healthy fear Of Big Ends getting their hands on him so he gets rid of the ball too soon alot now.



Edit: added jpgs and moved to bottom for readability

Shit. I got drunk and Rage Dropped Dak half way through the game last week! :D

W00ps

I still have Brady.

Lol in your defense that was one pathetic first half.  That second half though was pretty amazing.  I'm not sold on dak being a top quarterback, makes too many questionable moves and just cant make all the throws.  I hope cowboys sign him to a 10 year contract and he ends up being mediocre for 10 years  :D

I have also been steaming D's and had GBs D and they gave me neg numbers when I faced NEs D that put up 20+ points that cost me the week and they were beating up on Dak after I dropped them to the wire. I was just Lucky I went with the safe points and had Brady in. I think Prescott is going to give alot of people Heart attacks this year. :D

https://i.imgur.com/XcBsZ0yW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NTC9FSk.jpg




Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 12, 2019, 06:02:14 PM
I feel bad about blowing the Pats call about not covering the spread... It certainly seemed like everything was good to go until that last quarter when everything went south in a hurry. Like you guys said, let's see how the line reacts to them playing a good team... which by the looks of it won't be until Week 9 (Ravens) or Week 11 (Eagles).

So far we have 5 votes for Saints and 2 for Jags... the biggest discrepancy we've had in a poll thus far. Line is now at -2.5 Jags, so that will be quite the V for our Collective Wisdom if the Saints can pull it off. I honestly can't say why the line favors the Jags.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 12, 2019, 06:52:40 PM
I feel bad about blowing the Pats call about not covering the spread... It certainly seemed like everything was good to go until that last quarter when everything went south in a hurry. Like you guys said, let's see how the line reacts to them playing a good team... which by the looks of it won't be until Week 9 (Ravens) or Week 11 (Eagles).

So far we have 5 votes for Saints and 2 for Jags... the biggest discrepancy we've had in a poll thus far. Line is now at -2.5 Jags, so that will be quite the V for our Collective Wisdom if the Saints can pull it off. I honestly can't say why the line favors the Jags.

That is surprising, minshew has looked good but bridgewater has really stepped up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-gLNirRbY&feature=onebox


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 12, 2019, 07:24:25 PM
I wish i could revise my pick for the weekly poll. ;D
My only hope now is that Alvin Kamara might not play or at least get limited playing time due to an ankle injury he's nursing after week 5. He is listed as questionable for Sunday and did not practice on Friday. Teddy could help with a few interceptions...i wouldn't mind that at all. haha

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/status/1182742515218341888



Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 12, 2019, 08:08:13 PM
I wish i could revise my pick for the weekly poll. ;D
My only hope now is that Alvin Kamara might not play or at least get limited playing time due to an ankle injury he's nursing after week 5. He is listed as questionable for Sunday and did not practice on Friday. Teddy could help with a few interceptions...i wouldn't mind that at all. haha

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/status/1182742515218341888



I hope not I have Kamara in one league and michael thomas in another.  I hope every week New O spikes a huge lead.  Teddy has been good so far I was worried when drew got hurt.  Kamara has been ok so far this year, I expected a little more out of him honestly


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 12, 2019, 10:38:59 PM
Well I can see now why the line is where its at if Kamara is out.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 12, 2019, 11:01:42 PM
I'm really liking the Giants to cover the spread against the Patriots on Thursday night so I have taking that and I have also put on a small parlay for Sundays games.

My early parlay

Giants +16.5, Buccaneers +2.0, Bengals +11.5, Eagles +3.0, Browns +1.5

Odds $24.31

Outlay $10

Return $243.19

I'm also liking the over for Thursday nights game but haven't placed my bet yet.

As you can see I like to go with some value when taking parlays as they can pay off big for a small outlay so I'm willing to take the risk.

The only thing with the giants is that both barkley and gallman are out.  Sheppard is out and I think engram is out.  That is pretty much the entire offense.  The only hope is that danny dimes enjoys his first game on prime time and goes nuts.  I hope so, giants sucked for a bunch of years now and want to see them finally be decent again.  The over is probably a good bet.  What is it right now?

I know mate, it doesn't look good for the Giants with all these players out but I got a feeling that they cover the spread. The over has been jumping around a bit, I saw it at 42 and now its currently at 43. The Giants are back into +16.5 and the Bengals have come into +10.5 so the markets are jumping around a bit.

Dam that was looking decent but a defensive touchdown and a punt block for a touchdown was the downfall.  The giants hung in there but some critical turnovers changed the game.  I hope you at least got the over in.  Barkley and sheperd should be coming back next week so hopefully giants can hang in there

Tell me about it mate, It was looking good until the turnovers and even at the end there I thought the Giants had a chance to cover the spread but the pass interference wasn't called. I was luck to get the over which looked almost certain for the game and it did make up for the parlay loss.

I'm going to take another parlay for the other teams I had in my first parlay but to add some more value, I'm going with the Bucs to win the game instead of covering the spread.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 13, 2019, 03:01:17 PM
I've got a real tough choice for a flex, what do you guys think?
I have been on  Ekeler all week but alot has happened to make me rethink that.

1/2PPR


Terry McLaurin -  Case Keenum is back and playing Miami !!!


Phillip Lindsay - Denver is not play calling worth a shit so he's been riding my bench.


Larry Fitzgerald - He's been on my bench as a blocker/Trade equity as I'm WR deep but this week is juicy
   

Malcolm Brown  - I snagged him as soon as i heard Gurley was down...got lucky. :)


Austin Ekeler - What can I say, i wish Gorden never came back ! :D

WR1 Michael Thomas
WR2 Julian Edelman


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 13, 2019, 03:52:12 PM
Well I can see now why the line is where its at if Kamara is out.

The latest on Kamara is that he's active and going to play.

I've put together a single parlay for today (Ravens -6.5, Redskins -2.5 and Cowboys -6.5) looks solid to me... ::)

I hope my two Sunday fantasy league entries do a better job this week.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 13, 2019, 04:47:30 PM
Well I can see now why the line is where its at if Kamara is out.

The latest on Kamara is that he's active and going to play.

I've put together a single parlay for today (Ravens -6.5, Redskins -2.5 and Cowboys -6.5) looks solid to me... ::)

I hope my two Sunday fantasy league entries do a better job this week.

Hey when you guys post your bets why don't you use the format

Team1@Team2 spread

Bengals @ Ravens -6.5 sounds great
Redskins @ Dolphins +2.5 sounds good (Dolphins win eventually win 1 and this one might be it)
Cowboys @ Jets +6.5 sounds great

So we know both teams and who the home team is without having to check.


I haven't bet the actual games in years but you guys have me considering it now. :)




***BTW I have Carolina D on both teams this week. :D


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: nutildah on October 13, 2019, 05:13:46 PM
Hey when you guys post your bets why don't you use the format

Team1@Team2 spread

Bengals @ Ravens -6.5 sounds great
Redskins @ Dolphins +2.5 sounds good (Dolphins win eventually win 1 and this one might be it)
Cowboys @ Jets +6.5 sounds great

So we know both teams and who the home team is without having to check.

This may sound like a dumb question, but does the spread refer to the home team? For example, its the Ravens that are -6.5? I'm going to guess the answer is "yes" without actually researching the spreads.

Godwin and Evans' performances gave me a leg up on this week's fantasy game so far, even if TB lost their game. Its still gonna be a close one...


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: morvillz7z on October 13, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
Duuuuh, Ravens and Skins won their games but both fucked my parlay with 4th Q opponent touchdowns (last 2min)

Dolphins went for a 2 point conversion being down 17-16. lol

At least my fantasy team is looking good, i might crack the top 10 (out of 620). My team L.Jackson, M.Ingram, Carson, Mclaurin, AP, i also have Sanu hopefully he gets a TD or two.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 13, 2019, 08:21:53 PM
Hey when you guys post your bets why don't you use the format

Team1@Team2 spread

Bengals @ Ravens -6.5 sounds great
Redskins @ Dolphins +2.5 sounds good (Dolphins win eventually win 1 and this one might be it)
Cowboys @ Jets +6.5 sounds great

So we know both teams and who the home team is without having to check.

This may sound like a dumb question, but does the spread refer to the home team? For example, its the Ravens that are -6.5? I'm going to guess the answer is "yes" without actually researching the spreads.

Godwin and Evans' performances gave me a leg up on this week's fantasy game so far, even if TB lost their game. Its still gonna be a close one...

The shorthand we used to use is as you said in relation to the home team.

So tonight would be:

Steelers@Chargers -6

~At the moment.

With the home team Chargers giving the visitors 6 points.

I don't care what is used as I just did some checking and i don't see any sites using shorthand and it looks like they all use spreadsheets (must give the old bookies headaches! ). I think mine used to use ATS (at the spread) with a - or a + for the home team.

I would just like to know the quick down and dirty with a quick one liner like that. It doesn't matter to me what format you guys use, if there is a different one these days then just let me know.



Duuuuh, Ravens and Skins won their games but both fucked my parlay with 4th Q opponent touchdowns (last 2min)

Dolphins went for a 2 point conversion being down 17-16. lol

At least my fantasy team is looking good, i might crack the top 10 (out of 620). My team L.Jackson, M.Ingram, Carson, Mclaurin, AP, i also have Sanu hopefully he gets a TD or two.

Yeah there's real science on those spreads these days. Thats one reason I stopped back in the day, losing by a half point all the time will make you prematurely grey!


Edit: Sweet I streamed Coleman this week, grabbed Hyde as well but sat him in favor of McLaurin. I wish i had Hy7de in and coleman on the bench but I think i have this week in hand finally.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: vella85 on October 13, 2019, 10:18:36 PM
It was a bad day for me with my parlay so I decided to make a live bet on the 49ers before half time to cover +2.5 spread which is looking good right now. Its looking like we could see a big upset in the Jets/Cowboys game, the Jets had an amazing first half.


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 13, 2019, 10:44:04 PM
It was a bad day for me with my parlay so I decided to make a live bet on the 49ers before half time to cover +2.5 spread which is looking good right now. Its looking like we could see a big upset in the Jets/Cowboys game, the Jets had an amazing first half.

They both are playing well. The 49ers D is single handedly sinking my team. Goff has -.024 points. Lol


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: ralle14 on October 13, 2019, 11:56:22 PM
It was a bad day for me with my parlay so I decided to make a live bet on the 49ers before half time to cover +2.5 spread which is looking good right now. Its looking like we could see a big upset in the Jets/Cowboys game, the Jets had an amazing first half.
Most of my pre live bets are on the losing side as well there's so many upsets today. I was able to take the Jets +6.5 during the 1st quarter, even though they had a big lead I was still nervous when Cowboys started scoring on the 4th and almost forced it in to OT.

After all those upsets I wanted to take the Steelers they have a bad record but most of their scores are mostly close except for their first match against Patriots(they were blown out).


Title: Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week
Post by: Hueristic on October 14, 2019, 12:05:54 AM
It was a bad day for me with my parlay so I decided to make a live bet on the 49ers before half time to cover +2.5 spread which is looking good right now. Its looking like we could see a big upset in the Jets/Cowboys game, the Jets had an amazing first half.
Most of my pre live bets are on the losing side as well there's so many upsets today. I was able to take the Jets +6.5 during the 1st quarter, even though they had a big lead I was still nervous when Cowboys started scoring on the 4th and almost forced it in to OT.

After all those upsets I wanted to take the Steelers they have a bad record but most of their scores are mostly close except for their first match against Patriots(they were blown out).

Steelers with Big Ben were a poor road team but there is not enough data to know if that is still the case. Neither team looked good last week. It looks like sticking Melvin Gordon in actually messed up the chargers offense somehow. The steelers are a pretty broken team though living off gimmick plays.

If I was going to bet that game i'd give the Chargers 8 or 9 points. But then again I would have never expected to see the 49ers ruin the Rams.