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Title: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: dengpei on August 28, 2019, 12:14:56 PM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: bitbunnny on August 28, 2019, 12:28:56 PM
I don't think that ICO market is dead but the big selection will be made. At one moment so many new coins appeard all the time but their background and perspective on the market was bad and everyone was only looking for quick profit.
That is changing, we will probably escape the flood of new ICOs but I think the quality and investment potential will be better.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: jossiel on August 28, 2019, 01:34:37 PM
It is about to be dead but unless there are still projects that conducts crowd funding through, it will stay alive.

We saw the IEO to emerge and take over the whole ICO thingy but as long as there are investors who are willing to take risk, and there are projects who keeps making these sales on ICO, IMO we can't consider it to be dead unless they were all wiped out.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Jating on August 28, 2019, 01:51:50 PM
I would say 80% dead by now. Have we heard any success story as of yet? Pretty much investors are no longer interested with them, because of the scam projects being born every minute and everyone here doesn't want to be suckered in because we all learn from my mistakes already.

Besides we have this IEO, run by successful and big exchanges and so far we have seen huge amount of x returns from investors lead by Binance launchpad. So there's already a paradigm shift from ICO to IEO this year. And that is the main reason why ICO projects are slowly drying up and can't even reach their soft cap target.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: lobat999 on August 28, 2019, 01:52:00 PM
ICO is a fundraising activity and it is a one way of generating funds to a crypto project and though we've seen a sharp decline of projects conducting it,  we just cannot say its dead since the trend now is IEO which  also just like ICO done via exchange gateways that is much more attractive and more convenient to investors. What is missing really are the emergence of new and innovative projects conducting it since most project who've done it turned out to be failures or worse they have become scam projects that have traumatized the crypto industry. Imho.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: dothebeats on August 28, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
With the regulations already in place against ICOs, targeting mostly the scammy ones, the said market is already a dead space. Also with the advent of additional requirements being asked by governments before an ICO can continue, I don't think a lot will go through those hoops just to get a few thousand dollars on their pocket and potentially spending a lot more just to satisfy the requirements. Creating money out of thin air in cryptocurrency is long over, thanks to regulators.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Indamuck on August 28, 2019, 02:08:38 PM
It will never die, there always be new coins popping up every week.  I'm sure there will still be some new icos that do 100x or something crazy like that, just have to be patient and only invest in what you research yourself.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: teddyelwyn on August 28, 2019, 06:32:21 PM
I think they might be dead or not as profitable as they used to be due to regulations. Have you heard of the SCO? Looking to be a safer bet


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: RodeoX on August 28, 2019, 06:42:18 PM
It's hard to do the same scam again and again and find new suckers.  ;)


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: audaciousbeing on August 28, 2019, 06:48:16 PM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?
Saying its dead would be totally wrong but being no longer attractive is the right word to use. The problem is that because the ICO market was infested with a whole lot of scammers looking to make quick bucks, it really made people lose interest and trust in the entire scheme and when that is lacking that is the beginning of the end. Now that we have an alternative which the people are now moving towards, it kind of make ICOs obsolete which then makes running ICO a very tasking effort that I believe a lot of developers are trying to avoid.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Ebrahmos on August 28, 2019, 08:24:52 PM
Everything that has an purpose and revenue generating will stay in my humble opinion. Just take a look on Binance. MU-tokens still have demand and that's why they have the right to exist


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: gentlemand on August 28, 2019, 08:30:56 PM
Hope so. Almost all of them did nothing but fuck the people who put money in.

I presume a legitimised version of sorts will turn up but there's no way regulators will allow what happened in 2017 again.

In the meantime if you have a good idea here's a crazy thought - raise the money conventionally from people who have a clue who expect results and to be convinced. That'll instantly get rid of 99.5% of the people wanting money which is fine by me.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Banrkim on August 28, 2019, 09:55:30 PM
I wish I got paid everytime I see exactly same thread name...  :(
Generally, no, it's not.
Practically, yes, if you consider earning big money and spend 3 cents on it and paying employees with your tokens.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on August 28, 2019, 09:57:19 PM
It's hard to do the same scam again and again and find new suckers.  ;)

Unless your scam is an industry, like homeopathy or essential oils.


I presume a legitimised version of sorts will turn up but there's no way regulators will allow what happened in 2017 again.


Or maybe they would allow new scams to emerge, because in the grand scheme of things crypto is insignificant. All these billion dollar marketcaps are imaginary, there might be very little actual money going into altcoins, so there's very little point in regulating it. So, if exchanges will become regulated and not allowed to list tokens without approval, scammers will move to smart contracts and DEX's.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: gentlemand on August 28, 2019, 10:00:35 PM
Or maybe they would allow new scams to emerge, because in the grand scheme of things crypto is insignificant. All these billion dollar marketcaps are imaginary, there might be very little actual money going into altcoins, so there's very little point in regulating it. So, if exchanges will become regulated and not allowed to list tokens without approval, scammers will move to smart contracts and DEX's.

I'm sure they'll find a way to sneak around but it won't happen again out in the open. The SEC is slowly wiping out as many people as they can get their hands on.

Nothing'll stop it on the fringes of course but there'll be a time when these tokens or any equivalent outlet won't be allowed on any exchange that wants access to major markets. If your piece of shit can't bribe its way into somewhere with volume it suddenly becomes a lot less tempting to potential victims.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 28, 2019, 10:01:07 PM
I don't think it is dead, to be honest, there are a lot of them in the market. I think that is the reason why the ICO is struggling right now, there are a lot of them and they are mixed with scams, with a lot of the investors can't keep up where to invest or put their money. If it is dead, I don't think ICO projects would continue to add up.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Lanatsa on August 28, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?
Not totally dead but we can say that it is really already heading to that situation.We have seen even upto now that there are still lots of projects who do launch and finding for funding and support.People already learnt up since on previous years where these ICO projects isn't already profitable and most or majority of them are scam or just simply waste of effort and money.I don't know if there are still single project who do succeed or able to reach up their minimum threshold for funding nowadays yet majority now is jumping into the new hype which is on IEO where it comes to security or exchange listing this one is much better but doesn't mean that this is totally risk-free but this one is much more preferred by the masses that's why we had seen enourmous support from IEO's specially on big exchangers.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: vintages on August 28, 2019, 11:59:21 PM
About 70-80 percent dead.
What contributes to this? incompetent developers and most especially repetition of related projects.
Nowadays, majority of developers are into ICO to scam and collect investors funds. Ones the funding is completed they ghost the project and dump it in a shitty exchange. That is all. Leaving investors hanging.
Investors are also contributing to this by ignoring trustworthy project for scams ones even when it's clearly indicated.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: michellee on August 29, 2019, 01:45:36 AM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?

The demand for the coins/tokens nowadays is not too significant as the last two years because the market is not moving in the right way. The market itself still trying to back to the normal price after the market reaches the very lowest price before, but now, the market seems to want to rise again. The ICO itself is not dead although almost all of the project cannot survive or continue the project because if they still forced to stay, that will make their project hard to compete with the other coin. The market for the survive ICO will be on DEX, but some of them can enter the big market, but the risk will be big to be accepted.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: tukagero on August 29, 2019, 02:15:08 AM
The reign of ico projects has ended and IEO projects is taking over,but still there some projects who are still using ICO and mostly projects that uses ico dont get enough funds to continue the project.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Jackblack90909 on August 29, 2019, 02:41:55 AM
The ICO market isn't dead yet, but it isn't as profitable as 2017 for example. The whole crypto market is down currently, and also the number of legitimate and promising projects is decreasing. Nowadays, the IEO is making the hype, and it is more profitable and safer than ICOs.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: xanxus.kun on August 29, 2019, 03:37:51 AM
Its like a sleeping giant, let's wait for the next huge wave where all the coins not just Bitcoin turns the tide. For now I highly suggest to continue working and save tons of coins. Surely one of these coins will hit later on. Still waiting for the next bull run.

-join ICO
-hold
-repeat


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: TotalPanda on August 29, 2019, 03:59:46 AM
with how the developers handle their projects today? I wouldn't be surprise if ICO market is dead. I miss the old days where the developers do their best
bring the best of their projects unlike today where they only care about profit and nothing more.
1 Panda and 24 investors :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177503


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: mu_enrico on August 29, 2019, 04:10:50 AM
It's difficult though to survive if you create a new business since about 50% will fail after five years (https://www.bls.gov/bdm/us_age_naics_00_table7.txt). The failure rate in this crypto space will be far higher because of (1) scam and (2) market risk.

About (2) market risk, investors still don't know if this blockchain technology will be widely used in the future, thus doubling down the bet if investors invest in ICOs. Most of the existing ERC tokens will die. Meanwhile, the new one will find it difficult to raise fund because of less capital available (most already sucked in 2017 bull run). I'm not saying dead per se, but substantially less activity.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Babyrica0226 on August 29, 2019, 04:47:43 AM
It doesn't mean that most of the ico became an instruments by the scammer, ICO will going to die of course not!
there are still good ico out there, we just need to become wise in choosing before we invest as an investor or join join
before we get in to the projects. Though, in every ico project there is always risk involved that's why it needs to be smart
as a bounty hunters or capitalist.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on August 29, 2019, 06:19:44 AM
with how the developers handle their projects today? I wouldn't be surprise if ICO market is dead. I miss the old days where the developers do their best
bring the best of their projects unlike today where they only care about profit and nothing more.
for now, it is so difficult to see projects like that, we certainly need to do in-depth research to avoid projects that prioritize benefits over the quality of the products they build.

currently ICO still exists, and is still trying to develop. although not like before, because now there is IEO that has more advantages, but ICO still exists even though there are not so many projects that use this system.

I also hope that such a sales system will return to how it used to be.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: rose9696 on August 29, 2019, 06:53:31 AM
 I think it's not dead, it's still a pretty good and convenient way to raise money today. But the undeniable fact is that projects are getting worse and worse, they are running out of ideas.
Bad projects are making the ICO market worse. and we need to wait for truly quality startups in the coming years.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: arpon11 on August 29, 2019, 07:46:28 AM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?
The ico market is not dead and by visit icorating.com and icobench.net you will find new projects launching the ico every day and so many of them still attract investment. It seems some people really want to keep putting money into some projects with long-term views in mind. I have stopped investing in ico and I only buy good projects when there are listed in exchange! Sometimes you get them 8 to 9 time less than the ico price. IEO may be replace ico in future and that is if the manipulation going on in some exchange is bring under control.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 29, 2019, 09:02:07 AM
Probably you have not been paying attention to the market, that is why you are not seeing that the ICO market is still alive and active. Though the hype has really died down, developer  are still coming up with new innovation often even though not all the innovations that we see are genuine, some are just doctored documents and they would not be able to execute the project when they eventually lay their hands on money.

Therefore, ICO market is not the problem, but investors that the Ico market really needs to boom is the major challenge right now, most investor are quite discourage because of the happenings surrounding the market in terms of fraud and they are being very careful. For ICO to really book again, there is need to win investor’s trust back again.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Kasabus on August 29, 2019, 09:12:20 AM
ICO will not prosper from its current status now, I'm afraid it will be declared as dead soon.
If people have no option to invest, they would be force to invest in ICO, but now we already have IEO that's a better option for investors to invest.
The way ICO is going now where there are more failure projects compared to successful projects, investors will find it not attractive and now that they are seeing Binance produces good IEO, they will find ways to invest with Binance as they can get good return in short term.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: iMark on August 29, 2019, 10:05:57 AM
It doesn't mean that most of the ico became an instruments by the scammer, ICO will going to die of course not!
there are still good ico out there, we just need to become wise in choosing before we invest as an investor or join join
before we get in to the projects. Though, in every ico project there is always risk involved that's why it needs to be smart
as a bounty hunters or capitalist.
Agree, just because some ICO are scams, don't generalize that all ico is a scam. I do not deny that many ico become scams, but that does not mean the ICO business will die. this business will continue to survive and remain exist, even though many have become scams. if you are afraid to try this investment, then learn which ones are potential and have a future for growth. I believe that ICO investments are still profitable, all you have to do is be good at analysis.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Pab on August 29, 2019, 10:25:28 AM
ICO is mostly dead
ICO projects will still appear most of them will be worthless or scams
It is very hard for ICO project to find exchange for his tokens
Now we have new fashion what is exchanges ico but it is more or less the same story like ICO
Regulators are very negative for IEO


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on August 29, 2019, 11:31:37 AM
ICO project was good when many developer who already successful to launch their coin to the market and have gave a lot of profit for their investor exactly at 2017 ago, but now I doubt with it. Even, I have confidence that the developer who made the project will choose another place to launch their project although the way is same but in another way they look many chance that their project will be choose by many investor, as you may know there are many people who choose an IEO to launch their project. Yeah I think the ICO will be dead, I won't say that the developer who choose ICOs as their way are scam but the majority of investor will only look to the negative side in ICO.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: aioc on August 29, 2019, 11:55:53 AM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?

I think it's already dead, back 2017 and 2018 there's a new ICO almost daily, now it has become very rare we only see one ICO every month sometimes every two months.
One of the factors that contributed to its demise is the so many scams ICO hundreds of millions are lost because of fraud projects and investors cannot keep up anymore.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: raidarksword on August 29, 2019, 02:01:50 PM
ICO is not dead yet because i have seen project lately still doing an ICO, it's just that investors don't have trust on that anymore because most ICO projects last year many turned scam. IEO are trending this year, so it's best chance and guaranteed that project doing IEO on trusted exchange is definitely well trusted.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Saisher on August 29, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?

There are still ICO ongoing and fewer coming up, it's not yet dead but it will soon, maybe next year totally all ICO will be ignored and there will be no ICO anymore, it happens because there are a lot of options to invest now, so the project should choose IEO as their crowdfunding platform  because ICO is now useless.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: el kaka22 on August 29, 2019, 03:56:54 PM
What is important here is that are we questioning the ICO system itself or are we questioning just the ICO offering method?

Because, there are IEO's going around all day everyday getting funded millions of dollars every day and those are still very much alive, however the ICO method of getting funded is dying every single day. Hence, I think we need to know if we are discussing about ICO or just Coin Offering in general.

Coin offering in general will not die any time soon, people will find ways to get funded and there is too much money to be made from it hence it will never die but if you ask me ICO system already died, it was above 1+ billion a month in funding combined and it went as low as under 100m, I am sure it will go down even more in the future as well.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: ruski on August 29, 2019, 03:59:34 PM
ICO industry is still alive, but it is not really profitable for investors, and it have actually many problems. It is not easy to convince people nowadays to invest or fund ICO projects, because it becomes very risky, and the project can fail for many reasons. Also, the altcoin market is still down and it affects badly the ICO industry.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: evader11 on August 29, 2019, 04:01:29 PM
I think ICO is not dead yet, I can see some blockchain project nowadays are still launching ICO but in my opinion, there are only small investors are investing in that ICO project because they like the new offering of tokens, called IEO. Less risk to people who invested in it because it is launch in the exchange. So maybe in the future, ICO will no longer usable.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 29, 2019, 04:33:22 PM
ICO industry is still alive, but it is not really profitable for investors, and it have actually many problems. It is not easy to convince people nowadays to invest or fund ICO projects, because it becomes very risky, and the project can fail for many reasons. Also, the altcoin market is still down and it affects badly the ICO industry.

People are ready to invest if good projects are there. The major issue facing the ICO market is not the lack of investors, but the lack of good projects. There are some good projects, but they are few and far in between. And in many cases, these projects fail to advertise themselves properly. There is some hesitation from the investors due to the previous bad experiences with the ICOs, but if there is a good project with unique idea, then the chances are that it will get enough attention in the market.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Daffadile on August 29, 2019, 04:45:22 PM
I don't think ICO is dead. It is just one way of distributing tokens. It is much like crowdfunding and that still goes on till this very day. I think people need to hold onto their money and stop with the greed.
People need to give a lot more thought into where they invest and then the ICO scam problem will start to fade. You cannot blame the method of distribution of human greed or scammers.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Ucy on August 29, 2019, 06:45:04 PM
Quote
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?
Good question
Most projects unfortunately don't research this important aspect. They care very little about the market size and demand.

I think the market is really saturated... couple with the fact that very few interesting things are being developed.

Investor are becoming more knowledgeable about ICO and are finding it hard to find quality projects to invest in.
I bet if something great comes up, it will get enough funding.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Skyshark on August 29, 2019, 06:59:03 PM
With so many ICO's lately that looks so good and very promising at the start but in the long run were actually just scam projects, we may really think that ICO's are surely heading to that direction. Surprisingly this maybe the reason why so many would be investors are having second thoughts on investing on ICO. But then again, i opt to believe that it is not. I'm still optimistic that there are still ICO's with good product with an extra talented hardworking team out there. It's just a matter of thorough searching and a little bit of luck.



Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: kryptqnick on August 29, 2019, 07:06:42 PM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?
The golden age of ICOs was 2017. At that time people were generally excited about the bull run, and ready to invest in "hidden gems", "the new Bitcoin". However, as the bearish trend came to be, those investments disappointed people even more than Bitcoin. Not to mention huge sums of money simply being stolen from investors... These people never even got their tokens, and many people got shitty tokens. There've been other initial offerings looking like the future of such projects, but IMO they died almost right after being started. Now's the time for Bitcoin, maybe a couple of other big cryptos. Not tokens.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: carter34 on August 29, 2019, 08:50:21 PM
ICO has been limited to very few projects running on it, sobit is not totally dead and forgotten. It is going to come back but maybe not under etheruem platform and whatever platform that it would or various platforms, they would have learnt lesson.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Oilacris on August 29, 2019, 09:13:14 PM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?
The golden age of ICOs was 2017. At that time people were generally excited about the bull run, and ready to invest in "hidden gems", "the new Bitcoin". However, as the bearish trend came to be, those investments disappointed people even more than Bitcoin. Not to mention huge sums of money simply being stolen from investors... These people never even got their tokens, and many people got shitty tokens. There've been other initial offerings looking like the future of such projects, but IMO they died almost right after being started. Now's the time for Bitcoin, maybe a couple of other big cryptos. Not tokens.
They already learned from those past mistakes that they had done and for those people who do just jumped in blindly because they are just being hyped up of that 2017 bull run definitely turns back to crypto market after they are being wrecked up.

ICO nowadays isn't dead yet since I can see some projects do still proceed into these traditional ways on seeking out some funding but high rates that they do fail up and not getting any sufficient support due to that past reason.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: peter0425 on August 30, 2019, 03:55:06 AM
ICO days are gone years ago and I think if it’s not dead right now yet it’s heading there

With all the scammers circling around the ICO community?with all the victims shouting for justice and refund?i don’t think there’s another way that they can be trusted[im not saying 100% but yet the super majority does)
Anyway i really don’t have care for them as I had stopped investing for them since last year


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Janation on August 30, 2019, 04:11:40 AM
If it is dead, I don't think there will still be thousands of them.

A lot of projects are still there, maybe you are stating this because the ICOs you've invested in did not give you a profit? With thousands of ICOs, it is not dead for me, it is just that like sleeping and it will be awake in a certain time or maybe it is the end of it. We don't know, all I know is that it is still there and still not dead.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: kaya11 on August 30, 2019, 06:49:15 AM
Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?

The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.

Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?

Everybody learned their lessons,including new comers, they will be more intelligent and prepared if they manage to pick new alts for their investments, then of course new developers will be pretty much tougher also, this time it will not just be baseless dreams that they are trying  to make, it is a reality where every body can win. If there are still ICOs out there then it should be more precise, securities for their investors are assured and a goal is firmly set. So it would be much better the past ICO were the most of them never even had the chance to prove their existence
Most likely new investors will not be dumb as what we saw when ICO was so hot that new coins are made every minute at that time.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Distinctin on August 30, 2019, 08:04:50 AM
If it is dead, I don't think there will still be thousands of them.

A lot of projects are still there, maybe you are stating this because the ICOs you've invested in did not give you a profit? With thousands of ICOs, it is not dead for me, it is just that like sleeping and it will be awake in a certain time or maybe it is the end of it. We don't know, all I know is that it is still there and still not dead.
But looking at the amount raise, are they still raising a good amount?
I heard that majority of the ICO are scams, so that is not attractive for investors and I believe they are now investing in IEO than in ICO.
If that is not dead yet, I'm afraid soon, they won't be able to recover until they will be dead.

There are good ICO also, we can't deny that, but the fact that majority are scams, that would ruin the reputation of the entire ICO market.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Rustamm on August 30, 2019, 08:14:53 AM
Now I’m watching some ICOs and I understand that they won’t even be able to collect Soft Cap and start working on the project for which they raised money. Even IEOs are not always successful, very few people collect Hard Cap. Probably only IEO on Binance is most often successful and brings good profit to investors.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Ranly123 on August 30, 2019, 09:00:04 AM
What I know is that ICO was no dead, there is just an upgrade on its security which is why IEO was created in replacement for it. Even with this changes, scam still exist so we better be more meticulous on choosing which projects are legit.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: slocker on August 30, 2019, 09:59:19 AM
If it is dead, I don't think there will still be thousands of them.

A lot of projects are still there, maybe you are stating this because the ICOs you've invested in did not give you a profit? With thousands of ICOs, it is not dead for me, it is just that like sleeping and it will be awake in a certain time or maybe it is the end of it. We don't know, all I know is that it is still there and still not dead.
But looking at the amount raise, are they still raising a good amount?
I heard that majority of the ICO are scams, so that is not attractive for investors and I believe they are now investing in IEO than in ICO.
If that is not dead yet, I'm afraid soon, they won't be able to recover until they will be dead.

There are good ICO also, we can't deny that, but the fact that majority are scams, that would ruin the reputation of the entire ICO market.

Majority is scam or end up like dead project. Only few come out as a success in this process. Dont think that its matter if this is ICO or IEO. Maybe IEO will have more success in this maybe not. Only good thing is that they need to be offered on some exchange in difference to ICO that most dont see exchange at all.

But again this is huge gamble in both cases. From so many ICOs so far only few were good or successful at all. Dont think that IEO will change much this market but good bring some improvement in the whole process.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Japinat on August 30, 2019, 10:27:41 AM
What I know is that ICO was no dead, there is just an upgrade on its security which is why IEO was created in replacement for it. Even with this changes, scam still exist so we better be more meticulous on choosing which projects are legit.
Scam are everywhere, even the government cannot stop that, but with IEO, those high rate of scams in ICO are lessens, so it's a good solution to bring back a lively crowd sale in the space. ICO is not yet dead of course as we still see a lot of ICO, but the fact that they are not raising money anymore (no literraly), that would say that ICO is not anymore effective as before.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 30, 2019, 10:59:54 AM
The ICO is not dead, and they still running their project until now. But many of the finished ICO is hard to enter the market because the situations of the market itself are not good to trade for the new projects. Maybe the developer of the project still thinks to negotiate with the exchanges related to the market situations. But I see that some of the projects are entering the market, but their price was not good to follow the market, especially to follow bitcoin price. Maybe this time, they need to stay calm for a while until the market can recover so they can get a new price.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Reatim on August 30, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Its hard to admit it but ICOs are really on the verge of extinction today. Since the last years breakdown, a lot of people loses their trust in it. Also including those hundreds of negative news about it which convincing people not to be an investor.
This is Certainly is what happening now,ICO takes it harder to recover from those negativity and the same thing that’s whu IEO now is blooming because of the lack of trust from ICO of the investors

The offering of IEO is more secured than what ICO has(but don’t buy it as a word,make your own research as there’s are also some issues going on against IEO as well)


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2019, 03:31:55 PM
Its hard to admit it but ICOs are really on the verge of extinction today. Since the last years breakdown, a lot of people loses their trust in it. Also including those hundreds of negative news about it which convincing people not to be an investor.

The ICOs just re-branded themselves as IEOs. But things are getting difficult for the promoters now. Earlier, they just needed to set up a website and compile a white paper after plagiarizing the old ones. But now, they should bargain for a listing with the cryptocurrency exchanges, which can cost them anywhere from $10,000 to a few million USD per listing.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Lance203sin on August 30, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
ICO dead, now IEO is a new trand. At least for this year


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: SirLancelot on August 30, 2019, 04:08:34 PM
Just because there are thousands of them doesn't mean its not dead, I still think its not "dead" but its dying and all those thousands of projects are made just so people could make easy money and nothing else.

It is a job offer that nobody can refuse, if I told you that you can create a coin right now and try to build it and make it one of the top 50 coins of the coinmarketcap right now and be paid 6 figures for such a job, wouldn't you take it? There are hundreds of millions of people that would take that job, hell probably over a billion people, hence having thousands of these things mean nothing, its exactly what it suppose to be, a free money method that many people try and fail.

Hopefully, there are few diamonds in the rough and they become something good but usually they are worth nothing.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Golftech on August 30, 2019, 04:09:00 PM
Its hard to admit it but ICOs are really on the verge of extinction today. Since the last years breakdown, a lot of people loses their trust in it. Also including those hundreds of negative news about it which convincing people not to be an investor.

The ICOs just re-branded themselves as IEOs. But things are getting difficult for the promoters now. Earlier, they just needed to set up a website and compile a white paper after plagiarizing the old ones. But now, they should bargain for a listing with the cryptocurrency exchanges, which can cost them anywhere from $10,000 to a few million USD per listing.
They need to step forward as investors are already done following ICO's and now eyeing to invest their money to IEO's, so even there's a need for this developers to fund the listing process they don't have any options, if they wanted to continue with this business then they need to comply, most of the investors are moving to IEO's and if this two was classified differently then ICO will soon be forgotten and this new venue for investment will be the moving ahead.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: selectaselectine on August 30, 2019, 07:03:35 PM
Mostly dead I say since most projects go into IEO instead of ICO. Many ICO projects are clearly scams, most of it. Most people that put their money into crypto nowadays and they won't let their money being less in value by buying ICO tokens that is why they switch to something that could benefit them like IEOs. As is if like putting money to ICOs to instant lower your assets, who could possibly like that? Of course they will stay away after the horrible experience. IEO is the new trend now and hoping that it won't be the same as ICOs.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: dkbit98 on August 30, 2019, 08:59:51 PM
ICO season is dead and most of them are scam or failed projects!
But I have seen few projects that started as ICO,
and they are working quiet in the background on some great stuff,
that can change the way we use internet everyday.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: harizen on August 30, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?

Majority of projects who held ICO's are completely just a profit scheme with no working product with a real cause. Yes, bright and wonderful ideas and really an innovative if implemented but however, some of the projects after ICO, after getting their target, won't be seen active anymore. Honestly, projects are good if they are executed properly but that's not the case. Even those hype projects that got hyped last 2017 is nowhere to be found. Meaning, they didn't have a strong foundation and only lived because of hype.

Good thing 2018 bearish market struck the market. That's the best time to see if those successful ICOs back then will survive and will remain on their promise to their investors. Unfortunately, only a few left.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Japinat on August 30, 2019, 11:05:17 PM
Good thing 2018 bearish market struck the market. That's the best time to see if those successful ICOs back then will survive and will remain on their promise to their investors. Unfortunately, only a few left.

That's the turning point, it stop the possible scams, and it killed the scam projects.
It was good for the market actually, we don't like to continue those ICOs with rampant scam as that would only will negatively affect the future of crypto.

The reaming coins and tokens now from ICO that have survive offers the best opportunity for buyers, I would rather choose these undervalued coins and tokens in ICO than invest in a new one again in IEO, this proves it can survive so this means the future is bright for these coins.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Jocuserious on August 31, 2019, 03:00:13 AM
In fact, I don't think the ICO market is dead, but there have been major elections and huge changes. In the past years, the number of ICOs was high but their background and outlook was very poor and they were more likely to profit so the scale of the scam was higher. We want something new and satisfying ico, so that the good side of the ICO can regenerate but we need to look for it and be prepared to invest in a good ICO.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Janation on August 31, 2019, 03:26:52 AM
Its hard to admit it but ICOs are really on the verge of extinction today. Since the last years breakdown, a lot of people loses their trust in it. Also including those hundreds of negative news about it which convincing people not to be an investor.

Verge of instinction? Are you kidding me? There are still thousands of them out there.

It is not the bird in Rio, it is ICO, obviously a lot of these gave profit to a lot of investors and hunters, they are still there wanting to earn and saying that, ICOs will still be there circulating the market. The problem is just that investors are scared as you said most of those ICOs don't give the same profit as last year's so they just trade what they have and invest on what they can.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 31, 2019, 04:13:04 AM
They need to step forward as investors are already done following ICO's and now eyeing to invest their money to IEO's, so even there's a need for this developers to fund the listing process they don't have any options, if they wanted to continue with this business then they need to comply, most of the investors are moving to IEO's and if this two was classified differently then ICO will soon be forgotten and this new venue for investment will be the moving ahead.

This is the right approach. The logic behind the ICOs was univiable in the long term. Anyone with just an idea could create his own ICO, and the burden of funding falls 100% on the investors. So if something wrong happens, the ICO promoter is not harmed, while the investors and the bounty hunters lose their money. This in turn resulted in a large number of scams, and as anyone would have expected gradually the investors decided not to trust the ICOs anymore.

What happens with the IEOs is that an added layer of accountability is added. The promoters first need to pay a listing fee and therefore if the listing fails, they'll also incur some amount of losses. That means that the promoters are not very likely to go ahead with a listing, if they are unsure about its future prospects. This ensures that only the quality projects get listed (still there can be exceptions).


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: imstillthebest on August 31, 2019, 05:04:08 AM
ICO dead, now IEO is a new trand. At least for this year

ieo might be the new trend , it could only be this year but we wont know  . if these ieo performs better they can be the trend at all times but lets not forgot ico's since this were ieo started  .  ieo only gets an inspiration from the good ol' ico's    .  in the meantime i still see a couple of ico's but only few are becoming succesful  . 


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: cryptoloverlife on August 31, 2019, 05:33:16 AM
In fact, I don't think the ICO market is dead, but there have been major elections and huge changes. In the past years, the number of ICOs was high but their background and outlook was very poor and they were more likely to profit so the scale of the scam was higher. We want something new and satisfying ico, so that the good side of the ICO can regenerate but we need to look for it and be prepared to invest in a good ICO.

Yes, you are right, but we cannot able to justify them in the beginning because we might see the real behaviour of the company after successfully raised money. We have already experienced this situation in the previous, even we research a lot we cannot able achieve our in specified because they don't know how to develop the product what they mentioned in the roadmap.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: fiulpro on August 31, 2019, 05:40:47 AM
ICO is not dead , it's compromised by all the laws and rules being imposed by the government all around the world , the fact that we see a very few ICO's means that actually people are taking it seriously and they are expanding in the sense that they aren't just doping people aimlessly instead maybe it is a wait for a good one .
Even if there are 1-2 ICO's every month ..instead of the popular 1-2'00 but if that might improve the quality and make the ICO's more trustable there is no harm in them being in low frequency.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: binhvo1505 on August 31, 2019, 07:34:15 AM
In my opinion, ICOs are still not really dead and it is still useful for some potential ICO projects. such as Hedera Grashp.
ICOs are still a great capital raising system for potential projects, investors will find it themselves. And for mediocre projects, it won't get noticed.
So, recently, many people thought that it was dead. That's because the ideas of start ups are too trivial.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: OnceTwiceThird on August 31, 2019, 07:49:40 AM
Many ICO still running but not worth for joining, with many trouble after ICO ended for listing on exchange market and right now with TGT ICO have bad lower price after listing.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Leonardo7 on August 31, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
ICOs are not dead. The project that came to the market with the sole aim to pump their coin and take profit without any real use cases or life application will gradually fade away and will be abadon by the developers. Some projects are bridging the gap between traditional investment and blockchain technology, while some are just minted to extort the public. It's therefore important what we invest in.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: trickyriky on August 31, 2019, 08:21:09 PM
I don't think that ICO market is dead but the big selection will be made. At one moment so many new coins appeard all the time but their background and perspective on the market was bad and everyone was only looking for quick profit.
That is changing, we will probably escape the flood of new ICOs but I think the quality and investment potential will be better.

Only 11 projects (I mean ICO) turned to be successful, while over 90% of the other ones were found to be fraud or scam. ICOs are not trusted anymore, but they are not dead yet. Probably, their leaders will find the best way to get out of the dip. For now, people trust IEO as at least, they feel that their funds are protected by exchangers. However, time will show if they are as safe as they seem to be.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Lanatsa on August 31, 2019, 10:09:06 PM
I don't think that ICO market is dead but the big selection will be made. At one moment so many new coins appeard all the time but their background and perspective on the market was bad and everyone was only looking for quick profit.
That is changing, we will probably escape the flood of new ICOs but I think the quality and investment potential will be better.

Only 11 projects (I mean ICO) turned to be successful, while over 90% of the other ones were found to be fraud or scam. ICOs are not trusted anymore, but they are not dead yet. Probably, their leaders will find the best way to get out of the dip. For now, people trust IEO as at least, they feel that their funds are protected by exchangers. However, time will show if they are as safe as they seem to be.
Do you have any links or sources about this information about 11 project done ICO did succeed? This do pertain only on this year? Its hard to point out on how many projects or most of them do die even on start ups because of lack of funding when it comes to ICO yet now we are already seeing IEO which most project are targeting with it because of higher probability on getting support plus its directly being listed on an exchange.Im aint saying ICO is dead but we are actually heading there if people would completely switch up to IEO support than still minding with project that do ICO.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: princeyeboah on September 01, 2019, 12:11:56 AM
ICO is not dead although there are not numerous projects undergoing ICO as compared to the previous years. Now, IEOs are taking over because of the unique features and offers for investors. ICOs can get back on its grounds if it restructure and put measures in place to check scam - this will grant investors a high confidence level in ICOs.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: tetyulfania on September 01, 2019, 04:39:55 AM
ICO still worth and have profitable at the future with lower price on ICO time will have higher price after listing on exchange market, just waiting with trusted or ICO owner.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 01, 2019, 06:03:51 AM
You can check any of the ICO review sites (such as ICO bench, icorating.com and ICOstamp), and the first thing you may notice is that the number of ongoing ICOs have come down quite drastically over the past few months. According to the ICO bench website, till date we had more than 5,000 different ICOs, but only 52 are listed for this month. For comparison, we had an average of 200 to 300 per month for 2018.

Some of the recent ICOs (of 2019), that have given a good ROI include Pledgecamp, EMOGI Network, Wink, Akropolis, Elrond Network and Sero. In percentage terms, the record belongs to Volume Network, which gave 453x returns since its ICO (in May 2019). But it was a very small ICO ($30,000 was raised in total) and we can't regard it as a benchmark.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: guoyu78 on September 01, 2019, 10:26:20 AM
Its hard to admit it but ICOs are really on the verge of extinction today. Since the last years breakdown, a lot of people loses their trust in it. Also including those hundreds of negative news about it which convincing people not to be an investor.
The current bear market and bitcoin dominance also didn’t help. So many things really worked against ICO this period but we still have some project that are still trying their luck and really getting funded, but majority of those projects really wishes for IEO right now because that is the platform where they can easily get funded within seconds, but the cost of listing those projects on these great exchanges is still quite very much for them to easily join, so they just keep trying their luck, otherwise, ICO may have gone into extinction really if it was easy for most of those projects to join IEO, but I like the way it is kind of difficult for them, because It will also help IEO not to give room to bad project and scammers, so they don’t kill the IEO as they kill the ICO.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: dengpei on September 01, 2019, 02:42:59 PM
I don't think that ICO market is dead but the big selection will be made. At one moment so many new coins appeard all the time but their background and perspective on the market was bad and everyone was only looking for quick profit.
That is changing, we will probably escape the flood of new ICOs but I think the quality and investment potential will be better.

Only 11 projects (I mean ICO) turned to be successful, while over 90% of the other ones were found to be fraud or scam. ICOs are not trusted anymore, but they are not dead yet. Probably, their leaders will find the best way to get out of the dip. For now, people trust IEO as at least, they feel that their funds are protected by exchangers. However, time will show if they are as safe as they seem to be.
I agree with you there
Data from TokenData (https://www.tokendata.io/), an ICO tracking site shows that 142 of the startups that launched ICOs in 2017 failed at the funding stage while another 276 eventually faded into obscurity or simply took the money and ran. I think whether they take the ICO or IEO route, startups need to know that the odds of making it are really slim therefore they need to fully understand how to make it in such a crowded space.
In a study released in January, Ernst & Young said more than 10 percent of funds raised through ICOs were either lost or stolen in hacker attacks. Even as fraud can occur for investors, cybersecurity remains a legitimate threat to all interested parties. Ernst & Young reviewed 372 ICOs which raised a combined US$3.7 billion. Of that amount, US$400 million stolen were stolen funds.
It’s easy to get caught up in the hype, with a kind of innovation FOMO, however, it’s clear there are a lot of bad or poorly thought out token startups. You need expertise, talent, great marketing and great market-fit timing to succeed with a product that can scale your token startup to becoming ubiquitous with a vision that investors can relate to. The odds are against you if you are a crypto startup, you exist in a sea of blockchain startups where the winners win big and most of the losers go home fast.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Wayan_Pedjeng on September 01, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
You can check any of the ICO review sites (such as ICO bench, icorating.com and ICOstamp), and the first thing you may notice is that the number of ongoing ICOs have come down quite drastically over the past few months. According to the ICO bench website, till date we had more than 5,000 different ICOs, but only 52 are listed for this month. For comparison, we had an average of 200 to 300 per month for 2018.

Some of the recent ICOs (of 2019), that have given a good ROI include Pledgecamp, EMOGI Network, Wink, Akropolis, Elrond Network and Sero. In percentage terms, the record belongs to Volume Network, which gave 453x returns since its ICO (in May 2019). But it was a very small ICO ($30,000 was raised in total) and we can't regard it as a benchmark.

How is it possible for an ICO to give 45,300% returns? Are you sure about your figures? Can anyone confirm this post about the Volume Network ICO? The claimed returns are just insane. If there are such ICOs ongoing now, then it may still be worth the risk to invest in them. Even if we invest in 100 ICOs and get one ICO with 453x return, then that alone is enough to get a positive ROI.


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: ralle14 on September 01, 2019, 06:56:44 PM
How is it possible for an ICO to give 45,300% returns? Are you sure about your figures? Can anyone confirm this post about the Volume Network ICO? The claimed returns are just insane. If there are such ICOs ongoing now, then it may still be worth the risk to invest in them. Even if we invest in 100 ICOs and get one ICO with 453x return, then that alone is enough to get a positive ROI.
On volume network's ann thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147472.0) a $30,000 hardcap was mentioned and 3% of their total supply(300 million to be specific) was distributed to the investors. That would mean the price of each coin costs $0.001 and checking the current price of volume network on coingecko and coinmarket cap it's at $0.056 (more than 500x return for those who invested in their sale).


Title: Re: Is the ICO dead?
Post by: Japinat on September 02, 2019, 06:31:21 AM
How is it possible for an ICO to give 45,300% returns? Are you sure about your figures? Can anyone confirm this post about the Volume Network ICO? The claimed returns are just insane. If there are such ICOs ongoing now, then it may still be worth the risk to invest in them. Even if we invest in 100 ICOs and get one ICO with 453x return, then that alone is enough to get a positive ROI.
On volume network's ann thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147472.0) a $30,000 hardcap was mentioned and 3% of their total supply(300 million to be specific) was distributed to the investors. That would mean the price of each coin costs $0.001 and checking the current price of volume network on coingecko and coinmarket cap it's at $0.056 (more than 500x return for those who invested in their sale).
Probably that's one of the most profitable coin this year, but I'm looking at the volume now which is only $180,437 USD, so I can say it's not so special as this is just a small project. If this coins is in Binance, I'm pretty sure it will not reach this high as with bigger volume, it's hard to manipulate its price.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/volume-network/#markets