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Fight: Errol Spence Jr vs Shawn Porter
Venue: Las Vegas
Date: Sept 28

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https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-im-definitely-not-underestimating-shawn-porter--141281

Another good and very explosive fight before the end of the year. We may see the winner of this fight getting crack at Manny Pacquaio.

I personally pick Spence Jr here, tall very quick fast hands, good defense and of course. Shawn Porter is no push over though, but he will be having a hard time against a fighter with this caliber unless he rough up Spence early and frustrate him.

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Sportsbet odds:

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After seeing Spence beat Mickey Garcia unanimously, he earns the respect of boxing world, he really is a dominant fighter just like Crawford, I like Spence to win the fight but my hunch tells me Spence is the one going to come out the winner here, this fight will be more like the Spence Garcia fight, he will use his jab and quickness  to get the win and probably the knockout.

What an odds for Porter.I might consider to put up some bets on him but my views on whose gonna win will be on Spence.
Just like what been said above when it comes to fast jabs and reach,spence do have it and i love how he humbly said this line “I’m definitely not underestimating Shawn Porter,” but i do see different or the other way around with this words.lol

yes you are right, Shawn Porter has to rack his brain to beat Pence Jr. he must be able to take a gap and opportunity during the match later, so that the match as planned. It's not easy to beat Spencer Jr., but proof of the impossible can happen

In their one on one interview, Spence accused Porter of being a dirty fighter and that's in his face and in return Porter promises he will cut Spence face, this is going to be excited I thought these two fighters are good friends, it turn out they don't like each other at all

Here's the video of that one on one interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP3IEc3pHIo

But I'm picking Spence over Porter he is good with his job and moves and he has success against a little guy, one example is Spence's last fight against Mikey Garcia.

Spence is already tipping himself to carry the day. He is talking tough on the fight and looking forward to fight manny pacquiao as the next in line; excerpts from his interview,
"This is what I have been waiting for. I want to prove that I am the best in the division. That I am here to defeat anyone in front of me"...
"For now, I am focused on defeating Porter and gaining the  WBC title. Then I can think of Manny Pacquiao or in other names in this division,” Errol commented.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/09/02/spence-pacquiao-porter-unification/amp/

I guess at the end of the day they can still be friends. That's how Porter fights though, he gets over his opponent by using lots of "dirty" tactics but I'm sure Spence will be ready for it. So yes, Spence is the favourite because he has all the tools, specially his height, he is too big for a welterweight that's why he dominated with his superior wing spans and it's hard to get inside of him. So it will be interesting how Porter can go inside without being punished by Spence. Garcia though is just a ballooned 147 lbs it was a total mismatch. But Porter is a natural welter, big and strong so let's see how he is going to bully Spence here.

Let's look at Errol Spence Jr. record: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

Notable wins: Chris Algieri, Kell Brook, Lamont Peterson and Mike Garcia

Shawn Porter: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/472133

Notable wins: Danny Garcia, Andre Berto, Devon Alexander and Adrien Broner
Lost to: Keith Thurman and Kell Brook

So it's pretty obvious that Errol Spence Jr has a good resume and still has 0 on the L column. And as everyone is saying he is too tall to be at this division. I'm seeing Spence Jr. to win this convincingly either in the judges hand or a TKO somewhere in the 10th round.

In boxing it’s always Height is the advantage(but things may change in actual fight)

The picture already shown us the discrepancy in regards to height(reach) and the record as well,beating Mike Garcia recently gives him respect and more popularity .

Looking forward if he wins this fight(Spence) then the next option is to go with Pacquiao next year.

Errol Spence is going to absolutely dominate Porter—not too excited for this fight to be honest, it's not even that competitive.

Porter already lost to Kell Brook, who got knocked out by Spence Jr ages ago. He's obviously two levels below Spence AT LEAST, so it should be an obvious knockout victory for Spence.

Props to Porter for stepping up though, he must know he's in for a whoopin'.

As for me, Porter is not a good choice honestly for Spence but he has no choice and I believed he didn't want to risk fighting other good boxers at prime "for now" because he has a target next year.

However, Spence Jr. wants his next upcoming fight as a ticket for chances to face Manny Pacquaio. Since Pacquaio will not fight anymore this year and will dedicate the remaining time this year at the Senate, he is expected to make a comeback around May. Overall, Spence will have at least one more fight before his possible bout with Pacquaio "if the price is right".

Well then, if Porter will upset him at their upcoming match, then say goodbye for his desire to fight with Pacquiao.

Why would Spence Jr want to fight Pacquiao next? Sure, he's number 3 in the division and has the WBA belt, but he's also rapidly getting older.

It would make more sense to fight Crawford next, get the WBO belt, then fight Pacman when he's old AF. He's already almost 41 years old, won't make any difference waiting until he's 42.

Anyway, he won't get that far since Crawford would beat his ass.

However, Porter was just too green in 2014 and Kell Brook was at his prime that time and it was "pre-Canelo damage his eye". While Spence faces Brook in 2017, totally damage good already and I would say already in the downturn of his career. So I'm not seeing Porter going to dominate by Spence here, he could steal some rounds. Shawn needs this fight to be wild and messy fight and make Spence uncomfortable here, just like what Porter shown in the Danny Garcia fight.

Errol Spence is to good for Porter, the fight will turn out like Spence Garcia fight, but Porter knows for his rugged fight if he can manage the distance and can take Spence jab then we have a good fight, but I still will go for Spence he is too good Porter.

Oohh so the rumor about Spence vs. Pacquiao remains as a rumor.

Looks like I have to follow this match. The positive comments about Spence is overflooding the discussion but I say that let us wait until the match has come and done.

Majority of the people are going for Porter, and they have a good reason because Spence is a cool fighter who knows how to get the job done, Spence is so good at fighting aggressive and short fighters like Porter, so I think Spence will have a small advantage and will win by a unanimous decision.

If this fight turns to Spence advantage and win well maybe the next fight for Spence can be with Manny Pacquiao but that is highly unlikely gonna be with their promoters and handlers decision,

And with Shawn Porter Vs Errol Spence fight Porter really has the advantage with experience against Spence but lack with his reach and size, But if Spence would take this fight lightly and underestimate Porter's lacking then he is likely to be shocked because Porter may have a plan in dealing with Spence, But this can be hard for Porter because of Spence athleticism and speed so Spence may likely to win this.

Let's stop with Spence vs Pacquiao rumour. Spence for me is very dangerous for Pacquiao and he is "biting more than he can chew" here.

Spence is really a tall order even for Porter, 5'11? he can go as high as super middle or middleweight in his career. And the rehydration clause as well, how much is Spence going to weight during the fight?

Yeah props to Porter but I don't think that he can overcome a superior talent here. I think even Crawford will be having a hard time against Spence if they ever face in the future.

There's always an upset and it's better to wait for this fight before concluding not even a lots of positive comments for Spence but Porter can bring something as well this fight has been set up for them and for sure the boxing fans are looking forward to see how this will ends up and how this two boxers will bring entertainment to all those fans and gamblers who going to bets and watch.

I'm not ashamed to be a degen and put some dollars on the side of Porter knowing that he has had some few run downs of his own, though the match-up is pretty much aligned for Spence seeing how the height and reach advantage dictates even this picture of them. Porter would need to work Spence out and wear him down early on else Spence would just be dancing around the ring and making a toy out of Porter, and those jabs? We already saw how effective it was against Garcia, and it might be the same story here.

We would able to see again like a punching bag?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX7FDrNixS0
We cant say it would be similar but we can eventually see the advantage of spence on here but same as yours it isnt bad to put up some
dollars to porter.

Well that's pretty much what Porter needs to do to stand any chance of winning—make it a brawl.

Spence Jr is used to fighting at range, keeping it technical, doesn't often getting into head to head bangouts.

Hopefully Porter can put it all on the line and go for an early KO, otherwise its a UD for Spence at the bare minimum.

Here are some videos:

Spence Jr vs Porter Kick Off Press Conference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xiRx9OgBFI

Spence Jr vs Porter Preview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVjDDdzTKqQ

Spence Jr vs Porter Face to Face - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJlNkS_sa8

Whoever wins here might ask for Pacquiao's match. After all, most of the boxing fights are for money. And they are striking the iron while it is hot. Pacman is no doubt can attract a sizeable number of crowd to earn big money.

That's what we are hoping for,  we all know that still up to this day, Pacquaio remains the "sweepstakes" here. Those who fought Pacquaio can get their biggest pay check so far. However, I've seen comments saying that this is going to be a difficult and dangerous fight for Pacquaio if Spence Jr win this one. So let's just enjoy this fight first and speculate later on who are Pacquiao going to fight next. Giving some time before I put a bet here, I like the chance of Porter here,  ;D

Is this really the sweepstakes for both the boxers to face Manny Pacquiao? I haven't heard any news about it that the winner will have a mandatory fight against Pacquiao especially they are holding different world titles as of the moment. But if this what makes another Pacquiao fight happen then maybe seeing Pacman facing against his former sparring partner, Shawn Porter, would be a good feeling. It would be like a student against a master match although they fight differently I would like to see how the Porter will face against his former training partner and see who will win the match.

Why does this look like it was shot in the 1990's?

Lol, look at the way Porter tries to say he wasn't dominated by Brook. Sure, he only won by MD, but Spence knocked Brook OUT.

Porter knows he's going to get smashed, he's just gassing for the money.

Spence Jr would definitely gonna crash Porter in this match considering the record, height, reach, etc., what else should we look to make the odds go high for Porter. I see how both fighters move inside the ring and i can definitely say that Porter is always open in defense while Spence Jr is good at defense and offense. But if Porter would change his style in this match he might have a chance to change the result.

It is not really a mandatory fight against Pacquiao but a lot are speculating that after their fight, people will ask for a match whoever wins.
And yes, it would be interesting how Porter will perform opposite Pacquiao, in case this fight will come into reality.
Porter being trained under Pacquiao's camp as former sparring partner.
So there will be no trash talking here as Porter got a good working ethics from Pac.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/06/25/15/porter-says-he-got-his-work-ethic-pacquiao

I'm not that expert when it comes to analysis within a boxing box but I've just said that those rumors are circulating so I was kind of expecting that the match will occur but you are right I guess that we should move on and forget about this rumor.

Sure they are but still there's still pride for every fight that they do. And like what I mentioned, let's forget about this rumor and speculation.

In case you missed it, Spence Jr. team decided to have a clash first with Porter since they had no chance dealing with Pacquaio this year because of what I mentioned above wherein Pacquaio will dedicate to work on the Senate on the remaining months this year after his last fight with Keith Thurman.

In case he wins (and he was sure of that) against Porter, his next target is Manny Pacquaio. Then if ever he will win again, his last stop for the next year is Terrence Crawford. No way he will take Crawford first because his desire for fighting Pacquaio will not happen if ever he will lose to this one of the prime boxers today.

However, that was just his plan as Manny's camp nor Crawford's camp doesn't have a plan for now, at least as far as the reports are a concern.

I saw a betting last month somewhere wherein who will be the next Manny's, Crawford's opponent, I just forgot where I saw it.

Here are the current odds for this fight

-980 Errol Spence Jr
+648 Shawn Porter

September 29 is still a long way to go, a lot of things may happen in between but I guess Errol Spence Jr is still on top of this fight. Planning to put some money on Errol Spence Jr for a quick cash but I hope the fight don't go to the distance. Its a different story if it reached the last round.

Did you see Porter's eye lit up when Spence talk about Keel Brook. He try to dodge everything but Spence is throwing everything at him and seems that Porter has no response.

We will have to wait what's going to happen here, not discounting Porter but let see if he has improved and make Spence eat his words here.

Looks like the dog is undervalued much here, with that said, I'll be taking the dog by betting on Porter.
Porter has also an impressive record with 30 wins and only 2 loses, he is older but there's only slight disparity on the age gap here.

Spence is dangerous due to his high knockout record and this guy is undefeated, that's why people are rooting for him to win.
Hopefully they will be able to give a good fight, whoever wins this fight might be a good opponent of Manny in his next fight.

Errol Spence Jr. has a clear advantage over Shawn Porter.  The match will be interesting in a sense that Spence being an IBF welterweight champion while  Porter has WBC welterweight title. But I think the height difference between the two many be advantage here. This will be a massive 147-pound title match which no boxing lover can afford to miss.

Height doesn't matter in Welterweight division. That division is more sensitive about maintaining weight associated with serious diet, so even how tall the boxer is, if they didn't maintain a good shape around the given weight for that division/class, boxers will have difficulty at the weigh-in and on the ring. It's more even dangerous for much taller guys. I see that height just have an advantage in lower weight division starting from Bantamweight to Featherweight since no need to put pressure on a diet since the weight requirement is easy to achieve.

And age also doesn't matter here just as you said, the gap is just small.

Porter is the underdog here but it doesn't mean he can't give Spence a hard fight. There is a chance that he might upset the much dominant Spence. Wishing you luck on your bet.

On the contrary, if you are tall then you have a reach advantage and it you know how to used this as a weapon you on your favour. But the problem is that there are fighters who don't put their reach on superior position. They just want to slug it out with the smaller guys and most of the time losses that advantage inside. Yes, Porter really knows how to used his tools that's why he win at close fight.

Same as here, I had a strong feeling that he made it and win this match. I will pick Spence Jr. If we base on the height. It's a good advantage for him.Especially the range but also it really depends on what strategy he will use to penetrate Porter and get a knockdown but also he needs to be careful because Porter is very quick as well. I can't wait the result between this fight and whos gonna win. :D

I'm reading all the comments here and it seems everybody here is voting for Errol Spence to win over Porter, I will not take Porter for granted because he is a very aggressive fighter, he actually fights like Mosley, he can negotiate the distance where Mikey Garcia fail he will succeed, because he has more guts than Garcia.

It looks like there are more hype in this fight as expected.

Spence-Porter FOX Countdown Show Drew 604,000 Viewers


https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

This is big numbers I do hope that it will reflect on the actual fight and draw close to that numbers as well. It means that boxing is still on the mainstream although we don't have Mayweather as top US boxing attraction.

I doubt that will translate to PPV buys, nobody really cares about Porter to be honest, people had high hopes early in his career but he never really reached his full potential. Now he's slightly older and has been beaten odds of him being great are pretty low.

TBH, even Errol Spence isn't that big of a name, not too many people care about what happens in the lower weight classes, unless it's Canelo.

This is a great motivation for the two fighters, the opportunity to fight Pacquiao because any Pacquiao fight against a young fighter is always a mega-fight, every fighter in this generation wants a piece of Pacquiao because everyone here wants to be the one to retire the great Manny Pacquiao.

This is gonna be a great match,  Porter fan here because I love underdog and I like to have Spence his first loss because this is so favorite to win in this fight. I just like to try my luck betting on the dog as the return is bigger, in boxing nowadays upsets happen, yes, if Porter will win, this could be an upset because Porter is undervalued in this fight.

According to - https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-porter-fox-countdown-show-drew-604000-viewers--142428

Great odds for the underdog.

Let's see mate, his numbers if I'm not mistaken was around 360,000 PPV vs Mikey Garcia.

Fury vs Wilder is around 325,000.

So probably doing 400,000-500,000 PPV is not bad after all right?

Errol Spence: I Knew If I Couldn't Get Pacquiao, I'd Get Porter


https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-i-knew-if-i-get-pacquiao-id-get-porter--142664

I think there is a possibility that we can see Pacquiao vs Spence Jr. in the future. But first Errol needs to get ride of Porter because it's not going to an easy fight for him, and after that, he can inject himself in a Pacquaio clash and possible the biggest paycheck of his career.

Yeah, such a huge difference on betting odds for the two. I think if Porter can make this an upset and defeat Spence many would win big. Anyways, Spence is on a different level than Porter so I guess I would go put my money on Spence with this match.

It's not wise to put your money for a chance to win 9% of your bet, I would just have to let it go if I were you, just enjoy the match, it's not worth betting at all. Porter may win, that's likely but your are risking your money if upset could happen, if you really want to enjoy and you have a little belief that porter could upset Spence here, go bet on the other side.

Update September 19, 2019

Sportsbet Odds:
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A slight changes in odds. Porter, Shawn odds keeps increasing and Spence, Errol still favourites as usual of bettors.

1.08? holy cow :D

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1.02 10.61 (https://www.optibet.lv/en/sportsbook/ boxing > Matchups) - that what I call a total mismatch :D

I find this kind of matches very intense. One can do a relax boxing and get an injury, while other will show 200% and still will lose.

Much better to just watch his fight and not to bet on Spence. On the contrary, if people wanted to see some upsets and think that Porter has the balls and heart to bring the fight to Spence and not give him some room to create his sweet sport, then the odds for Porter is very good, in my opinion.

LOL, it looks like we already know who will win in this fight, this isn't an attractive one based on the line, it could be a one sided fight fully dominated by Spence. Manny vs Thurman was way more exciting than this as it opens as Thurman as the favorites but close to the scheduled fight, the odds was flip and Manny has become the favorites.

I think the fight will be excited Porter knows about the odds and he is the underdog, this will double or even triple his determination to win and beat Spence, Porter is a former champion and he wins against a tough fighters in the ring, in fact if there will be a rematch against Thurman, this guy has a big chance.

9-1 is very huge it's a shut off for porter and tho think Porter is a former champion I don't think the gap is not that wide, Spence uses his jab and reaches effectively the proof is on his last fight against Garcia, but Porter can slug it out, we have a good and should close fight here not this kind where Porter is a big underdog.

That's one key strength of Porter, and I'm sure that it will be his game plan from the time the bell rings.

Spence will used his jab, Porter trying to negate it by coming inside and slugging it out and try to test Spence ability. So it's really going to be close as well,  9-1 is disrespectful to say the least because Porter is also a world champion.

Whoever wins this match will face Manny Pacquiao and this could be the biggest test on Manny Pacquiao's campaign, both fighters are on their prime, they are not coming up from a long lay off, like what happens to Thurman whose performance suffers from a long lay off.

But I agree that it's a big injustice for Porter to have an underdog tag, this guy is no patsy, he can fight and it's hard to dominate him with his style.

Do you have a reliable source on this?
I love to see Manny fight again but I doubt Manny would allow himself to fight a younger champion like Spence.
Manny is old and has slowed down, and I don't think he can match a younger opponent like Spence, if he will fight again, it should be Mayweather as his last fight.

That's the expectation and that's what boxing fans wanted to see, for Manny to fight the winner of this match. However, you have a valid concern and I for one agree that Spence Jr really post a threat but we will see and enjoy this match, two boxers at their prime, best welterweight today so it's going to be exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMPiaxNt2o - Shawn Porter's Full Media Workout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muix-OksVsU - Errol Spence Mitt Workout

It's going to be a sure fire exciting fight and I think this should be one of the biggest fight this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTp3r4S91gE - Errol Spence Jr. and Shawn Porter | FIGHT CAMP | EPISODE 1 | PBC ON FOX

Exactly, the Danny Garcia fight already proved that. I think he was also the underdog at that time and was below the judges scorecard in the early rounds. But he adapt and listen to his dad and change his style in the mid rounds and rough Garcia.

Although he was hit in return, but there are a lot of close rounds and usually judges gives it to the aggressor that's why he was able to squeeze a close decision and win the belt. So I'm seeing another performance by Porter similar to Garcia's fight, make his opponent uncomfortable and close the gap.

Porter is all flare up coming to the fight he has a lot of motivation, and if Spence is the big favorite here, then there is a big possibility of another major upset here just like what happened to the Joshua - Ruiz fight and this might even compete for that match if ever Porter knocks out Spence.

I like Porter as an underdog as well in this fight. He always seems to be flare up whenever he is the underdog. Many have been writing off Porter because of his last performance against Ugas, which can go either direction.

But against Spence, he can't make the same mistakes as in the Ugas fight, he needs to remain the aggressor and make Spence adjust to him and not the other way around. He needs to go inside more used his disadvantage (height and reach) and what others say, rough the hell out of Spence and get him out of the comfort zone. He should also do a lot of head movements here in order to upset the taller and favourite Spence Jr.

What makes this fight interesting is it has the making of a huge upset, I would love that to happen, and Porter can pull this one he has so many things to gain here, and nothing to lose, the press is writing him off, because of his past fights that did not live up to expectation, I hope we see another big upset here.

Every boxing match has the making of a huge upset, just one punch will change the outcome of the game. I think media is just doing a good job down playing Porter here, it created more hype and people will start to buy tickets and see how Porter will do to Spence, or if Spence has the tool to beat and go with Porter's style here.

Of course we love to see upset, specially the good odds being offer by lots of sport books on Porter. The question is are you willing to put money on Porter?

I am, with that good odds for Porter, I could spare some money for it and if I loss, I can just let go.
Porter can also punch, this guy is big and have a good record, it's just that Spence is hype here, he maybe undefeated but it's not impossible to defeat him.

Upset could happen and you are right, we gamblers like that as it will bring bigger return to us.
This will take place soon, Porter now at 6.40 at my book, I think it drop but I still like the odds.

There might be an upset in this fight only if Spence will not take this fight seriously. Porter should work his ass out and look for a perfect strategy to defeat Spence. With their height disparity, it would be hard for Porter to make an upset and bring home the win.

No fighter would with an undefeated record that would not take any fight seriously because 1 loss is very serious to them.
We can only say it's upset because of the betting odds that shows no love for porter, it seems like they are telling us this guy has no chance of winning the fight. If Ruiz upset AJ in their first fight, this could be another good example of big upset, now... let's analyze carefully as the odds that is given to respective player maybe undervalued or overvalued.

yup me too i know spencer has a big advantages as well even though they are both very heavy handed.  For me in my view footwork will be the best weapon of Spencer on this up coming fight. And once porter cant handle it for sure he will concede defeat after how many rounds. I'm not saying porter isn't a monster in the ring in every time he fought  because in fact hes a big Monster as well.  But on this situation probably Spencer will succeed. 

Just checked the odds and it still stands a 6.40, still very good odds to be honest. So if you have some extra cash there, yes you can spare and hope for an upset. No need to get disappointment if you lose and I'm sure you will understand it as a gambler.

Also good to see:

Porter by decision @11.00
Porter by ko @17.00

I think I'll go with the decision, for me it's the best way for him to really win the game by making Errol Spence miss some shots and him going inside and make it a tough game for Errol.

I would say that is really a very attractive and interesting odds for Porter. The fight is just a couple of days from now so I guess every boxing fans and gamblers are going to like that odds. I might as well throw some money on Porter here just for the sake of him making a upsets and derailing the so much talk about Pacquaio - Spence.

Speaking of derailing that mega-fight,

Porter Looks To Spoil Spence's Pacquiao Party


https://www.boxingscene.com/porter-looks-spoil-spences-pacquiao-party--142780

It's seems that Porter was in this position many times in his life and he thrives on this challenges. He really knows what the stakes in this fight, but we will see how he fare against a tall Spence Jr here. Take note of the second paragraph, I think this will be his strategy, mauling, getting rough or we could see some dirty tactics here, hehehe.

I am gonna take it also, I'm on Porter on that kind of odds.. what site are you using in betting this event?
Can you share it here, just share the link so it would be easy to find it, this line is a complete insult to Porter, even if I have to bet all that odds at let's say 100 usd each, I would still end up winning, $1500 (KO) or $900(decision) if Porter wins.

Sportsbet.io mate.

Yeah, it's really a winnable fight, I mean Porter is not an elite as Spence, but the attitude though is different. Porter doesn't have the easy route that Spence took to became a champion. Porter really digs deeper against Ugas and the Garcia fight to take the belt. So he really excels being the underdog and then show everyone not to write him off.

Waiting for the final weigh-in and wanted to see the face to face and observed who has the upper hand in intimidating the other side.

I wasn't aware of this odds, I check on sportsbet now and it really exist,.. I guess I'm also tempted here, I'm not pulling the trigger yet but I tried the x17 odds with price boost, it results to 18.60, I think I am gonna take this tomorrow, will try to check my available funds if I can spare for this odds.

I just put up money against my friend and I bet Porter to win, Spence is a heavy favorite but Porter is now the hungrier between the two because he wants to prove something because people are betting against him, this is one of the time that I will go against the majority and take the underdog, but this is a hungry underdog.

Lots of smacktalking going on at yesterdays press conference

HEATED! Errol Spence Jr vs. Shawn Porter FULL FINAL PRESS CONFERENCE | Fox PBC Boxing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7WAWLuN5k

Ok it looks like the fight is just a couple of days and the odds on Porter I would say is really attractive to me.

I also look at Sportsbet and indeed it is an amazing odds, tempted to put some bet on Porter now here specially the some posters here are also seeing that odds very favourable to us. And yes, I think Porter will take it personally seeing that media are portraying him as no chances against Spence, he is mad and hungry to win.

It looks like Porter has the upper hand early in the press conference, however, Spence ended this event with lot of trash talk, and for me, won the war of words. Lol.

The co-main event is also going to be explosive, Dirrell vs Benavidez, but I'm going to Benavidez here, I think Dirrell is just too slow and doesn't have that KO punch.

Thanks man for updating this thread with the Final Press Conference.

Yes I did watch it, did anyone notice Porter became so serious when Jimmy Lennon called Spence Jr? He was someone smiling to the camera and when Spence was introduce with all the accolades, he jaw was lock and going eye-to-eye with Spence.

However, I'm expecting much heated exchanges but didn't see nothing, Spence had no facial reaction at all but Porter seems to be lively but lacks the trash talk we have seen in the Broner or Garcia fight.

The way I see it, Porter's chance of winning is through a sucker punch. Spence has a longer reach advantage and if he can maximize his advantage in range, this fight is sure in the bag for him.

In case you guys are interested to know, below are the Under card for this event

Misael Rodriguez (9-0, 4 KOs) vs Brandon Maddox (7-2-1, 5 KOs)
Lindolfo Delgado (10-0, 10 KOs) vs Jesus Zazueta Anaya (6-4-1, 4 KOs)
Fabian Maidana (16-1, 12 KOs) vs Ramses Agaton (21-10-3, 11 KOs)
Burley Brooks (3-0, 3 KOs) vs Fabian Valdez (3-5)
Amon Rashidi (7-0, 5 KOs) vs Alfonso Olvera (11-6-3, 4 KOs)
Fernando Garcia (12-1, 7 KOs) vs Juan Antonio Lopez (14-7, 6 KOs)
Leon Lawson III vs Alan Zavala
Justin Cardona vs Archie Weah
Jose Valenzuela vs Charles Clark

Thank you for bringing the price boost, I totally forget about it although I bet on sportsbet during the Pacquiao and Thurman fight. 18.60 is really very tempting for me as well.

Same here, need to dig down on my pocket and look for spare funds for this match.

Watch the final conference, and for me, Spence saying Porter is a dirty fighter really put Porter on an advantage here. And Spence talking about adjustment, it means that he is ready for everything that Porter has to give. I mean you can ready at all, but when the fight comes and you didn't expect how dirty or tough Porter is, then we might see an upset here.

I disagree about the sucker punch. Porter can win if he really goes inside, yes Spence has the reach advantage and that is obvious, but Porter has face opponents with longer reach that him so he is comfortable and it could really goes into the distance if Porter makes Spence fights backwards and getting him out of his comfort zone, specially in the mid rounds and going to the championship rounds.

I get really excited as this fight comes closer and closer. It's a battle between two fighters with undefeated record a considered good record ;D. in this sense, it's very hard for me  to pick whether who's gonna win. I think this is a very close match but I'll go for Spence Jr. because it is intriguing to know his next opponent if he win. Maybe Pacman or Crawford, hmm ???. 

With those odds I would bet on Shawn Porter. Maybe he looks weaker than his opponent right now, but, after all, he won 30 out of 33 fights, and 17 of them by KO. Also Porter is 8 cm shorter than Spence, which is frequently an advantage in boxing.

Overall I would agree with the comment I saw on a site where the odds where discussed:

Just for the record though, Porter lost to Thurman by UD in 2016 and to Kell Brook MD on 2014. The same Kell Brook who Spence beat by KO two years ago. That's why in the interview, Spence always brought this up.

But I definitely understand your excitement though, this is two fighters who are both champions and really at their peak. Well, there are news that Spence if ever he wins will go and chase Pacquiao. Good to see if he fight Crawford as well, but boxing politics will hinder that mega fight.

You can bet on porter to win by KO at 14.00 and porter by decision at 10, you will still get a better odds compared to 6.00 for porter to win the match.
I think as game is approaching, slowly the odds of Porter are decreasing, this means people are betting on him?

How about draw @25. does it stands a chance also?

Some of these boxers are not very popular but it's against good boxers with good potential against boxers who are just stepping stone for future big fights, but it's good to watch these boxers with good potential we can only see them on undercards, this is where great boxers starts from undercard from popular fights to gain exposure to boxing aficionados.

And this would really give people's worth of their money, honestly there is the first boxing match I know that has 9 undercards, usually that's only below 5 matches. Maybe they need this to attract more crowd I'm guessing because just like you, I am also not familiar with these boxers.

Both of these champions doing the media rounds to promote this fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdHLJ1Ce8Uk
https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1608711235974

I have watched several interviews with Errol Spence and all I've heard is he is going to knock out Porter, it's like the guy has a glass chin and cannot defend effectively, I don't think he can do that with Porter, guy is not a patsy I've seen how he trained and motivate himself, it's going to be interesting if Porter knocks him out first.

That's what we like to see,  though he is a champion but with that kind of attitude, I don't think he will ever be as great as Manny.
Porter's record is also impressive and well experience that his opponent, I'm pretty sure if Porter will knock out the champ, we will be enjoying here claiming our win for this fight.

What the odds again,? lol.. that should over x10 if porter will knock out spence.

He didn't knock out a Mickey Garcia, who went from 135 lbs to 147 lbs to fight Spence. Then how can he knock out a fully 147 lbs in front of him? Specially Porter is stocky and well-build welter weight.

Anyway, like the trash talking as we are nearing the fight, and it looks like Porter has won some fans because somewhat the odds keeps changing.

We never know, who knows? right?
Porter has a knock out record as well, of his total 33 wins, 17 are won by knock out, so Spence should be careful here, he should not underestimate his opponent as Porter is more experienced that him and the way I see in his past fights, I believe he is a smart boxer who knows what to do in order to win.

What a lame undercard, here, just look at the records of all the fighters most of them are unheard of. Only the main and co main event will the people going to watch.

Perhaps we can find some gems on those undercard fighters, I mean elite boxers didn't start as main event, like like Pacquaio did, if I'm not mistaken he was on the several undercard, his first on the Oscar De La Hoya-Javier Castillejo, his debut on US soil fighting Ledwaba.

Update: September 27, 2019

2 days left.

Sportsber Odds:
https://i.postimg.cc/4y1TcStm/6-F77-F719-33-A4-4234-8044-48-C279379-BE1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Porter, Shawn decreased a tiny slightly in his odds and Spence, Errol still kicking even with the most beautiful percentage for winning.

What would a victory for Errol Spence imply for his next fight? Would it be versus Terrence Crawford? I reckon there is no fight that would be more exciting other than that except Pacman versus Money Floyd or Tyson Fury versus Deontay Wilder.

SPENCE sounds to have his mind made on PACMAN next

Manny Pacquiao fight ‘definitely’ happening in 2020, Errol Spence says – ‘the fans want it’

Undefeated American says ‘there’s too much money on the line for it not to happen’
‘I’m going to get the fights I need to prove I’m the best in the world’

https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3030416/manny-pacquiao-fight-definitely-happening-2020-errol-spence-says-fans

I don't think that Spence vs Pacman would happen, it would be suicide for Manny though it would still be a competitive match but it's very dangerous for Manny. He have absorbed lot of punches from Thurman, expect a lot more from Spence if that fight would happen.

Recently Manny is qouted that he will fight next year and the likely opponent would be Amir Khan and it would be in an Arab country. A fight with Khan is practical if that rematch with Floyd won't happen.

Until now there are some Pac Man doubters out there, four straight dominant performance against top boxers in the division, the last one is against tough undefeated champion, let's give PacMan the respect that he deserves because he earns it.
People have this thinking that he will be beaten by this or that opponent, but always dominate them, Pacman always brought youth and experienced inside the ring making him one of a kinnd.

I doubt that, reason being is boxing politics (very sad), Spence is calling Pacquiao even after accepting the Porter fight so for sure that will be their number one priority. Otherwise, it will be on the same stable of fighters or PBC.

We wanted to see a Crawford match, but since Bud is on the Arum's stable of fighters, I doubt that they can negotiate and see who is the best in 147 lbs division.

Tomorrow is the big day and I'm betting for Porter to win the match, he is the underdog right, but this is a much hungrier underdog, in my opinion, the one that makes him the thing that makes him the hungrier is when Spence keeps telling him that he will be knocked out, he cannot even knock Mickey Garcia out what makes him think he can knock out Porter.

Weigh in, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw_8hymqUIY

Both fighters hitting 147 lbs. Let's see tomorrow night, I hope you guys already put your bets on and watch for this exciting match. I know most of you is liking Porter's chances here so let us see.

Both fighters looks relax and cool, Porter is just smiling but Spence has some seriousness on his face.

I'm going to go on Porter here, win or lose. I love Spence Jr, however, I wanted Porter to win because he is the underdog. Spence says that he is going to knock out Porter, I very difficult task to do since Porter hasn't been knock out in his career. And it seems that Spence Jr is overlooking him or maybe underestimating Porter and almost talks about the big fight with Manny Pacquaio.

Lol, i'm a hard core Pacman fan bro and not a doubter, what i'm saying is that Pacman don't need this guys anymore. He is a future  hall of famer. If you are really a boxing fan you will understand what i mean, it's for the safety of Manny and even his former promoter have advised him that if he can't fight Floyd the best thing to do is retire and avoid Spence and Crawford.

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As usual i will go for the underdog Porter in this fight, who knows upset may happen  :).

Spence is the heavy favorites but Porter is not the kind that you will take lightly, he is also a champion, and we all love to see another upset and this fight can produce another upset, but we'll see tomorrow the winner of this match will possibly face Manny Pacquiao and I love to see Porter the one to face Pacquiao, it's a battle between two slugger.

Betting on underdogs is commonplace for you? Upsets are quite rare in the sport of boxing, you must have lost a lot of money. Well, unless you bet on Ruiz to beat AJ recently  ;D

Upsets are very rare but if he is comfortable betting on underdog why not, it's still a gamble, one lucky punch can change the whole fight, and if Porter wins then we have two upsets battling for the upset of the year, that would be great.

That lucky punch can happen to anyone inside the ring, who knows what fate brings this two fighters recently we've upsets makes gamblers to place bets and hoping to repeat the same thing over and over. We are not sure even odds show Spence to be the favorite but tomorrow will be the conclusive time if who between this two boxers to win the match. Good luck to everyone who already place their bets.

Nah, it's just a small amount and it's not everyday that we bet on boxing besides there is no use on betting on the favorite which is Spence, you have to risk a large amount for you to win a penny, not worth the risk as anything will happen just like the Ruiz and AJ fight, it's up to each one of us on who to bet but this is my thinking.

Goodluck brother. Anyways, it's game time and still Spence is the much favorite in this match. I like you stand with just placing a small bet on Porter. But I guess you also place a bet on Spence which makes it a win win situation in favor for you. Am I right?

Fighting Manny Pacquiao will also one of their motivating factors to win this match, it's a million-dollar match and any fighter now wants to beat Pacquiao who is now on a big run with 4 winning run to boxers in the welterweight division.

It would be a better career decision for Errol Spence, however. There will be more money and Pacman might be the easier fighter for him than Terrence Crawford which might also pay him less hehe.

Pacman's fight will be interesting if materialized, proving that division title smells good showcasing of fighting skills. Pacman's pride is always important to him and proving something inside this arena will pay a lots of attentions from the boxing crowd. After this Porter fight we will see if who's going to be the next in line for Spence. At this moment lets wait and enjoy this upcoming fight between this two boxing stars.

After beating Thurman decisively I'm surprised we still have doubters about the capability of the Pac Man, in his last fight he showed to everybody who is the younger fighter, there's no hint that Pacman is already 40 years, still has that speed and power.
Fighters and boxing fans will tell that it's easy to beat Pacman but everything changes inside the ring.

Thurman is the latest victim in their pre fight he always say he will retire Pacman but after the fight he becomes part of the chorus guys that says how great Pacquiao is.

I am waiting for someone to post here on who wins between the two as of writing this post it's already round 8 there are a lot of live stream in Facebook but they are always taken down, it's a very exciting match I think it will go the distance and could be another candidate for the fight of the year, it's a pure slugfest.

I think the fight is over now and spence won the fight, and I see a lot of reaction that they called it was a robbery.
Anyway, congrats to him and I will just try to find some highlights now from youtube since I haven't watch this fight in live TV.

That's right, Spence won the fight via split decision.
For those who was not able to watch the fight, here's some reliable story from.
https://sports.yahoo.com/errol-spence-jr-vs-shawn-porter-live-roundbyround-results-analysis-004439511.html

How's your bet guys? If Porter won that decision, we should see a lot of happy bettors here.

Am I right?

Porter is the aggressor one bringing the fight to Spence but Spence is the more accurate one, it's a slugfest to the finish I consider Porter the winner here, he is very aggressive and also hitting Spence a lot of punches, for me the aggressive fighter should be the winner here, as expected Porter comes out the aggressor here, it's a candidate for the fight of the year.

He was, but the judges wasn't in favor of him, this is the first fight I saw that Spence almost loss, I think Pacman has a real chance of beating him.
Anyway, the judges already scored and we cannot complain since we know that boxing is corrupt, they are protecting spence here as he has the undefeated record and he is a rising superstar, some with Mayweather when he has a lot of controversial fight that he would have loss.

One of the fight I thought boxing is corrupt. THE NIGHT FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR LOST (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKDc0R8gzbc)

It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.

I shall say that this is should how boxing looks like.Giving out their best and fight for their hearts content. Classic in fight and giving out body blows.
The thing i dont like on how they do score out that 116-111 for porter?If that one doesnt have knockdown i would say that Porter would have it.
Rematch would be soon for sure.

I agree that it was a classic fight, if Porter wasn't knock down the fight could have been obviously close in the book. However, Porter try to fought back during the same round, he did everything he could and he really make Spence uncomfortable fighting inside, it's that he was just hitting the gloves of Spence.

It was a gallant effort on his end, props for Porter, though I was thinking of a Pacquaio vs Porter would be more interesting because of their styles. We have know that style makes fight so a raging bull like Porter will be a good match up for Pacquiao.

Thrown punches by porter is mostly being blocked and thats the difference among the two and that do give out points for spence.
Scores is somewhat clear but wont really be that huge gap.I do love to see infights- brawl to brawl rather than seeing running and clinching most of the time.
This recent fight shows on whose the one do have the longer or higher stamina.Pacquiao and Porter? interesting but i would be eyeing first for the rematch.

I was hoping that Porter and Pacquiao will push through because they have similar fights, the fight was so close it could go either way, we have seen that Spence is not that tough fighter if a fighter is very aggressive, and has good speed Spence will have a hard time, if Pacquiao can maintain the speed he has shown in the recent Thurman fight he has a chance.

I just watched the replay on Youtube and that knockdown well it's not really a knockdown it's more of an off-balance but Porter was hit by a shot when throwing a punch and that made the difference in the scorecard, there should be a rematch but Spence will be going against Pacquiao next year.

He was hit, got outbalanced and touched the floor by his gloves, and that was called a knock down.
I also review some highlights, and if you want to see the a knock down, you can view it in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOSbaEe1KU  ;D

No more excuses now, this was a close fight, the knock down was a big difference.

Yeah! That's why it was fair to end a match into a split decision. Even Porter kneel into his knees (in all fairness he got a hard chin) it's doesn't create a very huge point gap against Spence Jr. like some of you think because his aggresiveness lift him up.

Speaking of aggresiveness, I think that's the main mistake Porter did. Hmm, that thing is good for the viewers because it makes the match action-packed however w can't deny that there is side effect on the boxer's side. As we witnessed, Porter was drained  most especially during the last round. It was very obvious, you can see it on his speed reduction and his punches get sloppier. Nonetheless, he is a great fighter. He has a big heart because he gave all out in this fight. He also deserve some respect, no doubt about it :D.

Strange that one judge give it to Porter. He was aggressive but missing a lot, at least that's the way I saw the fight, and it should be UD for Spence.

@NavI_027 - even in the early rounds he was too sloppy with his punches and Spence capitalising on it.

So let's see Spence vs Pacquaio for all the glory and see who is the best welterweight.

Exactly, little risk big reward for Errol Spence if Pacquaio will be his next fight.

I like the fight with Porter though, we really see how Spence can adjust with anyone at this division. But if ever Pacquiao will be his opponent, I don't think that someone can really adjust to Pacquiao style. Only Floyd and Marquez (after fighting him many times) was the only boxer I saw truly adjustment and make Pacquiao pay for his aggressiveness.

Lets put up the accurate time for that knockdown: https://youtu.be/yIOSbaEe1KU?t=28 Its clear that it wasnt a slip but  a pure knockdown where he able to get some left swing from spence and even porter wasnt able to be knocked down he would still lose up this fight in terms of pointing system. Knockdown doesnt really give out big difference yet it do only deducts 2 points on its current score but well its great factor yet each point does matter.

That sounds great, if Spencer would fight against pacman and I love to watch him facing Manny's heavy punches. It was just my strong opinion for the current situation of Spencer, and nothing so serious about it. I was only stating and judging based on what capability did this guy in comparison to Pacquiao.

If it is not because of a knockdown on the 11th round, I think the match would have been a draw. Luckily Spence draw knockdown on Porter that changes the score of the match but I wonder why one of the judge favor Porter which makes it a split decision win for Spence.

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

It did stand a chance. Spence won on a split decision, so it was very close to draw.

But I must say that I was wrong betting on Shawn Porter. As it happens most of the time, most bettors appeared to be right about the outcome of the battle. I just thought the odds were wrong, Spence wasn't 5 times more likely to win. But he won and that's what counts.

You did exactly what you were supposed to do as a bettor, which is exploit the disparity between the bookmakers odds and the true odds of an outcome. You knew that Porter had more than a 20% chance of winning, and were prepared to get 5x your money for your risk. Keep doing this with future fights and you will eventually come out on top, it's just a matter of time.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

This next fight will be a deciding factor to glorifies who would be the best from the said division. Pacquiao enlighten the community that age is not an issue when you are determine to show your skills and capabilities. Spence after this win adds more confidence from his system of fighting, he able to win this fight with that undeniable knock down, a turning factors for grabbing the glory.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

It doesn't even worth talking about it, the fight will never take place, Manny is above that, he can't spend his time and his health for every jackass, he would fight every week otherwise...

Another question is - would Pacquiao's camp be willing to fight with Spence Jr, if in case he will go inside the ring one last time? What would be at stake on this fight? Is it important for him to fight with Spence? Another boxer trying to get a good paycheck by asking Pacquiao's fist.

Yeah Pacquiao did win against Thurman but in a split decision. We have seen a slower Manny when he fight Thurman. I think if Manny would fight Spence, it would be 2 or 3 years from now that's why I said he can't fight toe to toe with young fighter during that time. I mean as time goes by, any boxers will have their edge dull and that's reality man.

It was a convincing win by Manny and people even think it's a unanimous decision but the one coach sees Thurman is a winner.
If this two (spence and Manny) will fight, it should happen soon and maybe this year or early next year if that is possible.
We would love to see a good fight of Manny before he retires and I'm afraid spence will be undefeated no more if he will face Pacman in the ring.

Indeed but his punches are still on point during the first half tho. Porter landed few punches which made Spence Jr. a little bit wobbly. Props to Spence Jr.'s defense, he just evade as much as he can do and wait for the right timing to punch compare to Porter that fight like a raging bull ;D.
I would love too but I'm sorry to burst your bubble, rumors are spreading that his next fight would probably be Danny Garcia (https://www.boxingscene.com/danny-garcia-errol-spence-i-want-you-next--142958).

That's not gonna be an exciting fight, Danny is not an undefeated and I think Spence can also handle him.
I think Manny would be a great match for him, this oldies is still unstoppable now, and we've seen in the interview that he is calling for Manny as he know its a big fight and it can attract a lot of money, I hope Manny will answer that call.

Pacman will only be fighting someone who can give him more money. Who else would that be except Floyd Mayweather? Terrence Crawford, Errol Spence? I reckon they would be a big risk. Promoters should pay Pacman more if they want him to fight either of them.

In any case, I thought Shawn Porter was winning the fight. He was more aggressive and appeared more wanting to win it.

Yeah, I agree somehow by just scrutinizing the logic. If Porter beat Garcia before and Spence Jr. beat Porter, therefore, Spence Jr. can beat Garcia. I know it sounds unair but I believe it make sense, isn't it? ;D.
We all know Pacman's attitude, he is not choosy to his opponents. He fear no one (in a humble manner of course) and always accept what is being offered. Let's hope this match would happen soon, and if Manny able to tarnish his record then I can't think of another next strong contender aside from Crawford.

Wow, an amazing fight between these two heavyweights, though Spence won this game, it was one of the toughest game ever. In round 1, porter was a little aggressive and did some effort inside, that he loves to do always, but Spence has shown his class in the third round and got back several counters and it was very effective for him and landed a good fight inside and midway the round, Spense also manages to create some distance in the 5th round and porter still trying to push Spense like a bull-rushing the matador. after the six-round, both carried with punching and creating distance but Porter was unable to continue this spirit until the end of the match.

This clearly shows that Spence is the better fighter but Spence admit that it was one of his toughest fight in his career.
What can you expect man,, this is champion vs champion and therefore it's expected that they will deliver a good fight.

I like what Spence did that he played on the game of Porter but despite of that, he still win.
I can say he is not afraid of risking is undefeated record as he fought toe to toe against a strong boxer of porter.

If it would happen next year then it would be a good fight bt if it happens later, maybe Pacquiao would be at a disadvantage. For me, a Spence vs Pacquiao should happen the soonest possible but with the current situation, I think this fight will never happen since Manny should retire after his fight next year to preserve his health.

I saw on Youtube that they have an argument in their post-fight conference they are arguing on who between them pull the most people in the fight, these two are good friends outside the ring I hope they can patch everything, the match is over, although they are trying to build up a rematch, but that would come after the Pacquiao match.

I heard it from him, he admit that Thurman's punches are not a joke. It really hurts him. I think Pacman is aware of their capacities especially knowing the fact that they're young with killer records. But despite of the risk, Manny will surely face it. There are already so many people including his own family adviced him to retire couple of times ago but here we are — Still witnessing how he destroy the careers of these rising superstars ;D. We are not sure in this matter only Pacman himself can put a period in his career.