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Title: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 09, 2019, 03:44:15 PM
Hello everyone

inspired by the Lightning Network Trust Chain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89TSOayiqtA), I came up with the idea to do the same with physical Bitcoin, in order to promote the Kickstarter campaign for DigiPiglets (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nenadfranjic/digipiglets-collectible-piggy-banks-for-digital-money). I talked to and met with eternalgloom, as he was happy to participate and give some advice.

Key Facts:

1. Like a collection basket, the DigiPiglet gets handed from person to person (100 people in total), each putting in at least 5Ä ($5,50) in Bitcoin on the  DigiPiglet Public Bitcoin Address (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1NETDSdHh6Zoot4BohbWP1ZqCapPvHFih9).
2. The person holding the piglet decides who the next trustworthy recipient is.
3. The 99th recipient sends it back to me.
4. I unload the balance and send the money to a Venezuelan Charity Organization (sending it physically would be too risky).
5. If the Kickstarter campaign (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nenadfranjic/digipiglets-collectible-piggy-banks-for-digital-money) for DigiPiglets gets funded, each participant receives a free DigiPiglet. Just link us on any mayor social media site or here on bitcointalk (We're on Twitter (https://twitter.com/DigiPiglets), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/digipiglets/), Facebook (https://facebook.com/digipiglets), Steemit (https://steemit.com/@nate.french))

https://i.ibb.co/KFHDq18/DSC02011-copy2.jpg
The piglet is hollow, the only copy of the private key is inside the piglet. To reach it, you'd have to cut it open

https://i.ibb.co/PrntTrD/IMG-8033-copy2.jpg
DigiPiglet's first recipient

The goal is to do some good for the Venezuelan people, bring Bitcoin back to the minds of people and get some attention to the Kickstarter campaign (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nenadfranjic/digipiglets-collectible-piggy-banks-for-digital-money). The DigiPiglet is one of two prototypes that we've created for this idea. It's made of a squishy material, fun to play around with and serves as a simple piggy bank for Bitcoin.

Thanks to eternalgloom for being the first to receive the DigiPiglet on its journey

What do you guys think? Anybody interested in participating?

DigiPiglets Journey on DigiPiglets.com (https://digipiglets.com/pages/the-digipiglet-journey)

Other threads: Project Development (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101723.60), Collectibles (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130404.new#new)

Cheers!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 09, 2019, 04:13:57 PM
It was nice meeting you and indeed I'm very happy to participate with this!
I've just sent little over Ä5 to the DigiPiglet's public address and I'm ready to send it over to someone else.

Now, I'm still doubting who I should send it to, so if there are people here on Bitcointalk who would like to participate, let me know.
I know Stomachgrowls was interested in getting a DigiPiglet, so this might be a chance for you to look at it? ;)
Anyone else may participate as well, I have no problem shipping it to the US or Europe. Some basic level of trust is needed though, so trust scores on Bitcointalk do matter :)

I can personally attest that the people behind this project are trustworthy and that the money will go to the right place in the end (with proof of course)!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on September 10, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
this is a very nice project/idea.  :)

I would like to be next in line. I am located in EU

DigiPiglet, please send me a PM with details.

Concerning trust issues,  it would be nice whoever holds the DigiPiglet, to post here the user that they will send it next.

Hence, we will avoid situations being contacted by strangers asking for our shipping details. Another idea is  "DigiPiglet" to coordinate the DigiPiglet exchanges.

I am one of the (few for the moment) Kickstarter backers. Fingers crossed the campaign will get funded eventually :-)

wish you all the best on the success of both Kickstarter & DigiPiglet Journey.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 10, 2019, 06:16:35 PM
OP, and eternalgloom, so glad to see it going somewhere since following it some time ago! I think it's a great idea, and it'd be really fascinating (at least on some level!) to be part of this, and be part of the whole bitcoin tapestry.

Now I'd like to contribute but not via Kickstarter. I think I commented in the KS thread that I would have put in something if it accepted BTC. Happy to join the chain if anyone would have me (but location is shifting a lot!).

Regardless, my contribution (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8561a44127a9e17cdb0a31584765e8f50c792240dd8e2199c10c0745f9297895) to keep this rolling.

Good work, guys!



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 10, 2019, 06:38:34 PM
Wow, amazing, didn't expect so many people would be interested!
I have my work cut out, just to pick someone.

Btw, I've made a list here with all the people who are interested in participating:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130404.msg52414882#msg52414882

I'm keeping it updated and will pick someone tomorrow. I've also suggested that we work through this list in the beginning, so everyone gets a chance to participate.

I'll also just post this here again, a blog post I've made on Steemit regarding the DigiPiglet Journey:
https://steemit.com/blog/@daan/the-digipiglet-journey-creating-a-physical-bitcoin-trust-chain-for-venezuela

@buwaytress

BIG THANKS for the early contribution!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 11, 2019, 02:24:47 PM
@eternal Unfortunately I have no real idea about Steemit but I liked the post anyway and I think I shared it (I need to check properly)!

I saw your PM and responded only just now, this little project had me interested from the beginning for some really odd reason so I really don't mind. It would be so cool to see his piglet traverse the world wouldn't it?


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 12, 2019, 09:24:14 AM
Don't worry about it @buwaytress, you did well :)

I'm sending the DigiPiglet to you in a couple of hours, going to the post office at around 2 PM :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 12, 2019, 02:14:15 PM
Everyone, thank you so much for participating! Really makes me happy to see the piglet get around :D

Just wanted to note that you don't necessarily have to send it via mail, if you know someone who is interested and is willing to look for the next person, you can hand it to them personally. Just make sure they are able to share it online. You can always contact me if you need assistance. Whoever wants to write about it or share it otherwise, feel free to send me a pm if you have further questions. Of course, anyone is invited to donate even if you can't participate (thanks buwaytress!)

Lets see where this goes ;D



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 12, 2019, 02:57:11 PM
It's now on its way to buwaytress :)
I hope it arrives safely, because I didn't go for the tracking. Trying to keep it a bit cheaper to send, as the tracking would have added too much.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 12, 2019, 03:17:47 PM
Thanks for the update, eternal! No worries, I think post in this region is fairly reliable, except for extreme bad luck. Worse case, we have the private key!

Now my next job is to find someone else, or is tweetious going to next? Be nice to find a way to also "stamp/mark" or even inscribe all the locations on the piglet, but there could be some other creative way later to assign some note to it without scarring the pretty thing heh.

@DigiPiglet projects like this make me smile. And, I suppose the rules, like most things like this, can tend to be quite fluid!

Update you guys when it arrives.



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 12, 2019, 03:46:32 PM
@buwaytress

The Bengy guy on my list is also from The Netherlands, so that might be a good option?
And them maybe let him send it to someone in the UK for example, so it can go to Gibraltar pretty cheaply.

I hope you guys don't mind me sharing the general locations, it's kinda hard to organize if I don't :P

The Bengy guy I'm talking about is on this list:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130404.msg52414882#msg52414882

Oh yeah, I've also added some DigiPiglet stickers in the package, you can send a couple of them along as well. It's not like they weigh much.

Adding the receipt I got from the post office as proof:

https://i.imgur.com/k8Cn5Kh.png


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Vod on September 17, 2019, 12:25:38 AM
Key Facts:
3. The 99th recipient sends it back to me.
4. I unload the balance and send the money to a Venezuelan Charity Organization

How can we be sure you just won't keep the coin?   You are an anonymous newbie.  :/


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 17, 2019, 07:35:12 AM
Key Facts:
3. The 99th recipient sends it back to me.
4. I unload the balance and send the money to a Venezuelan Charity Organization

How can we be sure you just won't keep the coin?   You are an anonymous newbie.  :/

I know I don't have a trust score, but I've been a member here for a long time and I've never bothered with getting a trust score by doing small transactions or whatever.
I can vouch for him, since I've met him IRL.

I just don't think he'd put the reputation of his entire business in jeopardy, by stealing a measly $500 (the approximate value of the DigiPiglet at the end of its journey).
He traveled all the way to Belgium, in order to meet me and hand me the DigiPiglet. Would a scammer really go through all that trouble to steal $500?

We haven't even decided where the money will go exactly, I'd suggest letting the community decide that and make it all as transparent as possible.
I'm 100% sure that OP wouldn't have a problem with that, heck, he probably also wants to do it like this.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 17, 2019, 09:07:55 AM
Key Facts:
3. The 99th recipient sends it back to me.
4. I unload the balance and send the money to a Venezuelan Charity Organization

How can we be sure you just won't keep the coin?   You are an anonymous newbie.  :/

You can't, that's why it's a trust chain ;) But I have a digital footprint and I'm happy to engage with you guys in real life. If you check out my Kickstarter you will find my real name. My LinkedIn is out there as well.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 18, 2019, 01:15:58 PM
I'm getting a bit worried now for the DigiPiglet, I hope it didn't get lost in the mail.
Since I've mailed it last Thursday, I would have thought it'd had arrived by now.

I hope it'll arrive tomorrow at buwaytress's place.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 18, 2019, 02:45:44 PM
I'm getting a bit worried now for the DigiPiglet, I hope it didn't get lost in the mail.
Since I've mailed it last Thursday, I would have thought it'd had arrived by now.

I hope it'll arrive tomorrow at buwaytress's place.

Does the mail carrier have an inquiry process for stuff like missing mail?


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Theb on September 18, 2019, 04:29:41 PM
I really like how the work is ot for but I just see two flaws in the system. One is the need of the DigiPiglet to be on hand physically to the next recipient before it can send BTC to the piglet, by doing this like what eternalgloom will be doing on shipping it to the next trustworthy person he will be incurring additional cost by doing so. The second one is related to the first flaw because this kind of system you will be risking the donations everytime you send it to another person, as you are handing out the private key everytime you send it to an individual even if you think the person is trustworthy doing it with 98 more prople looks like a risky thing to do.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 18, 2019, 05:02:16 PM
I really like how the work is ot for but I just see two flaws in the system. One is the need of the DigiPiglet to be on hand physically to the next recipient before it can send BTC to the piglet, by doing this like what eternalgloom will be doing on shipping it to the next trustworthy person he will be incurring additional cost by doing so. The second one is related to the first flaw because this kind of system you will be risking the donations everytime you send it to another person, as you are handing out the private key everytime you send it to an individual even if you think the person is trustworthy doing it with 98 more prople looks like a risky thing to do.

You're right with your assessment, but you always have that risk in a trust chain. The reason we're going through the effort of sending it from person to person is that we want people to hold this thing in their hands, share it, show it to friends and anyone that's interested. We're not about being the most efficient charity out there, just completely different.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 18, 2019, 05:17:18 PM
I'm getting a bit worried now for the DigiPiglet, I hope it didn't get lost in the mail.
Since I've mailed it last Thursday, I would have thought it'd had arrived by now.

I hope it'll arrive tomorrow at buwaytress's place.

Does the mail carrier have an inquiry process for stuff like missing mail?

I reckon they do, I'll start that process if it hasn't arrived by Friday.
Now, I did also put a return address on it, so normally it should just arrive back at my place if something went wrong.

Maybe go with tracking to send it to the next guy, if that isn't too expensive.

The Bitcoins are still on it at least :P


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Theb on September 18, 2019, 06:28:08 PM
~snip~

You're right with your assessment, but you always have that risk in a trust chain. The reason we're going through the effort of sending it from person to person is that we want people to hold this thing in their hands, share it, show it to friends and anyone that's interested. We're not about being the most efficient charity out there, just completely different.

So are you just doing this solely because of marketing or you want to give the donor a firsthand experience on how he can be part of the charity? Either way this is really risky, I haven't even mentioned anything about the risk on how it could have problems with your courier (from delays and damages to theft) and I think eternalgloom is currently experiencing it now with the delay in shipment. At least just make the piggy empty and don't store the wallet's private keys inside of it, it removes the temptation for the donors on stealing it and there is really no point on adding it when already receiving the DigiPiglet is something they need to look forward for.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 18, 2019, 07:02:42 PM
~snip~

You're right with your assessment, but you always have that risk in a trust chain. The reason we're going through the effort of sending it from person to person is that we want people to hold this thing in their hands, share it, show it to friends and anyone that's interested. We're not about being the most efficient charity out there, just completely different.

So are you just doing this solely because of marketing or you want to give the donor a firsthand experience on how he can be part of the charity? Either way this is really risky, I haven't even mentioned anything about the risk on how it could have problems with your courier (from delays and damages to theft) and I think eternalgloom is currently experiencing it now with the delay in shipment. At least just make the piggy empty and don't store the wallet's private keys inside of it, it removes the temptation for the donors on stealing it and there is really no point on adding it when already receiving the DigiPiglet is something they need to look forward for.

I want to do both + I want people who never experienced Bitcoin before, to hear about DigiPiglets and get to know how (easy) Bitcoin works. When I showed the DigiPiglet to people and explained how it worked, it was much easier for them to wrap their head around, than when explaining Bitcoin in theory. We can minimize risk if we personally hand it to others. I was hoping the piglet would find a Bitcoin community hub somewhere, where a few people could hand it to each other personally before sending it to a different country.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 19, 2019, 04:51:59 AM
Hello everyone, it seems that my DigiPiglet has arrived;) It actually got in in the morning, while I was out, kid forgot to tell me until just earlier (way early in the morning right now my time).

So I've reached out already to Bengy but I don't think he replied yet (I check my Steemit and don't see). I left comments on his most recent post with my email and bitcointalk.

I'm going to ask around, I actually don't mind even any parts of the world, but yeah I suppose the chain is likelier to continue more quickly where we are (but that's just my assumption).

My thoughts: Mail is quite reliable in my part of the world, domestically. I use post a lot all over the world and standards aren't so great nor consistent, so you never know. With packages generally, they do arrive (in my experience). I've had lost letters, postcards, never packages.

P.S. Pics later;)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 19, 2019, 08:12:28 AM
@buwaytress

That's absolutely fantastic news!
I was getting a bit worried, but I guess the post system is just a bit slow :P

Also included some DigiPiglet stickers, as you can see. You can always send the rest of them along with the piggy, it's not that they add any costs to the package :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 19, 2019, 08:19:21 AM
Yaayyy  :D :D

Can't wait to see the pics :)

Let's establish that we use tracking/insurance if we send it overseas. Domestic mail usually is fairly reliable, but we should not take the risk if we are sending it far away.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 19, 2019, 09:41:54 AM
Update: Bengy responded (thanks eternal for helping sort that out!), and it turns out we're in the same city after all (fancy a Steemian and a Bitcointalker ending up there).

I'll leave the stickers, and add a small piece of artwork that will be done by a very young Bitcoiner (I have sadly neglected updating a post here where you can see her art (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4985793)). Just a little something to add on to the chain, without making the package (that much) heavier!

So the handover will be done tentatively Tuesday =)



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 19, 2019, 10:29:51 AM
@buwaytress

That's really amazing! If possible, take a couple of pictures during the meetup, if you're comfortable showing your face online.
I know Bengy has already posted a couple of pictures of himself on Steemit, so that shouldn't be a problem.

I'll ask him to write a Steemit post about this as well ;) Really great to hear that this is coming along nicely!!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 19, 2019, 10:44:03 AM
Update: Bengy responded (thanks eternal for helping sort that out!), and it turns out we're in the same city after all (fancy a Steemian and a Bitcointalker ending up there).

I'll leave the stickers, and add a small piece of artwork that will be done by a very young Bitcoiner (I have sadly neglected updating a post here where you can see her art (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4985793)). Just a little something to add on to the chain, without making the package (that much) heavier!

So the handover will be done tentatively Tuesday =)



That's a funny coincidence and really convenient :) Love the idea with the artwork.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 20, 2019, 01:49:59 PM

Sorry this took so bloody long, but I'm rather inefficient with photos and things. I will update here also to show when I manage to print the drawing I will also include when sending to the next person (Bengy)!

Hopefully, we can get a few more interested parties to line up. Happy Friday everyone!

P.S. If it counts for anything. I like the workmanship and feel of this piglet. Matte finish, and looks squeaky as new, I will not test its robustness;) it is safely back in the box:)!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 22, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
@buwaytress

Thanks for adding that picture, I'm very glad to see everything made it there safely of course!
I hope we'll see some pictures of the exchange too ;) Maybe Bengy will post about it on Steemit as well.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DarkDays on September 22, 2019, 02:54:58 PM

The piglet is hollow, the only copy of the private key is inside the piglet. To reach it, you'd have to cut it open


Would love to see a digital version of this passed around Bitcointalk.

Have you ever thought about?

Seems like it could be passed around much more efficiently, particularly since a lot of people who actually use Bitcointalk don't know a huge number of bitcoin users IRL.

I would definitely be interested in participating.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on September 22, 2019, 04:19:37 PM

The piglet is hollow, the only copy of the private key is inside the piglet. To reach it, you'd have to cut it open


Would love to see a digital version of this passed around Bitcointalk.

Have you ever thought about?

Seems like it could be passed around much more efficiently, particularly since a lot of people who actually use Bitcointalk don't know a huge number of bitcoin users IRL.

I would definitely be interested in participating.


The digital equivalent of this has been done already, with the lightning torch.
The whole shtick of this initiative is the physical aspect, of handing the DigiPiglet over to other people and trusting them.

Now, people can always just donate Bitcoin into the DigiPiglet without participating.
Here's the Piggy's Bitcoin address:

1NETDSdHh6Zoot4BohbWP1ZqCapPvHFih9

(The public address is also mentioned in the OP, so I'm not trying to scam anyone here :P)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 23, 2019, 12:46:21 PM
How about after we finish the physical trust chain, we initiate a digital one? Maybe with some digital collectibles?


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DarkDays on September 23, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
How about after we finish the physical trust chain, we initiate a digital one? Maybe with some digital collectibles?

Why not run both in parallel? You could create a simple ERC721 token that can be passed from person to person.

Reach out to crypto-collectible games like cryptokitties and others to see if you can make the token have some special functionality in their games.

Every time the collectible gets passed around it should gain in value, then you can sell the ERC721 token to a final bidder, and release the gathered funds to charity for a double whammy donation.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 24, 2019, 04:01:46 PM
And the Piglet hath moved along the trust chain. Strangely, we both thought hey, it's ok for our pics to go online. Very unusual, but there we go;)

https://i.imgur.com/FibvbkU.jpg

So here we are, with Piglet, stickers and the piece of art (comic strip) I included. Maybe Bengy has better pics on his phone?

And in case you can't read the comic strip (I do realise it's macabre but hey artist impression, right?), the image itself is here:
https://i.imgur.com/BQqrjav.jpg?1



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 26, 2019, 10:48:48 AM
Do we already have our next location ? :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on September 27, 2019, 06:07:59 AM
Do we already have our next location ? :)

I believe Bengy will now get in touch with one of the others in eternal's earlier list. I am also trying to source (feel like there's a better word haha) another person in the UK to get along with this chain but no response yet. I have quite a few secondary options but probably want this to happen a bit more naturally first before I resort to getting people convinced =D

P.S. We were both surprised by the weight! For some reason thought it'd be heavier.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on September 27, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Do we already have our next location ? :)

I believe Bengy will now get in touch with one of the others in eternal's earlier list. I am also trying to source (feel like there's a better word haha) another person in the UK to get along with this chain but no response yet. I have quite a few secondary options but probably want this to happen a bit more naturally first before I resort to getting people convinced =D

P.S. We were both surprised by the weight! For some reason thought it'd be heavier.

Already over 20Ä yay  :D

The mass produced versions will come out a little heavier and firmer. The prototype was glued together by hand, therefore, it's not as robust as the final model. So if anybody receives the piglet with a dent or some other flaw, don't worry ;D

Please make sure to have anyone who participates share the story and a picture somewhere online. If someone doesn't feel comfortable to show themself on the picture, just shoot a picture like the first one in the original post.



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on October 07, 2019, 09:42:58 AM
Hi all, any more news with the little fella?
Just watching with interest to see how far and wide it can get  :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on October 08, 2019, 10:51:21 AM
Hi all, any more news with the little fella?
Just watching with interest to see how far and wide it can get  :)

Looking forward to hear some news as well :) Did bengy already send it to the next recipient ? Is anyone in contact with him ?


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: bengybunny on October 08, 2019, 06:55:52 PM
Hi all, any more news with the little fella?
Just watching with interest to see how far and wide it can get  :)

Hey Mbitr,

Sorry, I'm a complete Bitcointalk noob... I'm trying to send you a PM, but your account doesn't allow noobs to PM you!

Can you send me a PM, so we can sort out getting the Piggy to you?



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on October 08, 2019, 07:10:24 PM
Pm on the way  :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on October 10, 2019, 10:19:33 AM
Bumping the thread a bit to try and get more traction. I might have mentioned, I do have at least 1 other person I could likely convince to hop onto the chain, but I'd like to see where this gets first on its own. Be nice not to have anyone I know on the chain ha!

Bengy, you "only" need 23 more posts to bet yourself out of Newbie limbo =p I'm not encouraging spam, of course!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on October 11, 2019, 08:35:27 AM
Havenít heard anything yet my end, no problem for me :) if it doesnít come my way,Iíll tip the little fella anyway.
Bengy - Iím sure itís ok to do some spam posts on here to help you  :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on October 11, 2019, 11:28:57 AM
Hey guys,

if you want to receive the DigiPiglet, just send me a name and an address. I'll try to keep in touch with the participants and help them find the next recipient.

Cheers  :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on October 29, 2019, 07:23:10 PM
Hi all,
The DIgipiglet has arrived in Wales  :)
So far heís been to
Belgium ? - please correct me if Iím wrong
The Netherlands
Wales, UK
Next stop .... tweetious in....Iíll let him tell you :)
I know tweetious was interested early on in the project, so I contacted him and he was more than willing to help with the project and continue the little fellas journey.
Hopefully thereís still many people interested in getting their hands on him and passing him on.
Many thanks all and good luck little piggie
Mbitr

https://i.imgur.com/3Ye9nXw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gq005l0.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/gq005l0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3Ye9nXw.jpg


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on October 29, 2019, 08:01:17 PM
I confirm that the next stop of the Digipiglet's journey will be... Greece !  ;D

I will keep you posted once I got it in my hands (+ provide photos etc.)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: JanEmil on October 30, 2019, 10:54:40 AM
If the little Piggy want to say hello to Denmark feel free to contact me. Will show him around in Copenhagen.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Dabs on October 30, 2019, 06:09:25 PM
How did the private key get inside the piglet? How is it sealed? How can you easily verify that the piglet has not been cut open? On the website it says uses a double label, so something like other physical bitcoins maybe.

How does one order a piglet of their own, and seal the private key inside? If it's a squishy material, it's probably fun to use, but not very easily "secured".


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on October 30, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
How did the private key get inside the piglet? How is it sealed? How can you easily verify that the piglet has not been cut open? On the website it says uses a double label, so something like other physical bitcoins maybe.

How does one order a piglet of their own, and seal the private key inside? If it's a squishy material, it's probably fun to use, but not very easily "secured".

Hey Dabs

I printed the private key on some high quality paper, rolled it up and stuffed it through a tiny hole I poked in the bottom. It's more of a rupture in the material than a hole, so you can't really pull the piece of paper out unless you cut a bigger hole into it.

Since the Kickstarter campaign didn't get funded, we'll do some work on the product, so expect some changes.

However, our trust chain is still on, currently on its way to Greece after spending some time in the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany :D

Thanks to all who are helping out and participating  :D


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Dabs on October 30, 2019, 08:31:27 PM
Ahh.. okay. maybe make the hole a "one way" kind of thing. Like how boats get stuffed into glass bottles. It's kinda hard to get the boat out without breaking the bottle, or breaking the boat into parts.

Again, it's just a paper wallet in the form of a cute pig.

You tried a kickstarter, maybe you should try a bitcoin fundraiser kind of thing instead (yes, I know, it will look like an ICO, that's how it is.) You're looking at raising maybe 2 or 3 BTC total? Make it a target to hit 10 or something, maybe a public address held in escrow (I'd volunteer myself, but you can feel free to pick anyone else, or 2 of us if you want multi-sig) and everything is tracked on the blockchain.

Could also be individual addresses if people want a little privacy but still want to contribute to your kickstarter in BTC.

Don't send the piglet to me, I'm in the south pole and it's likely a penguin will eat it before it gets to me. :P


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on October 31, 2019, 10:43:15 PM
When I first saw this project many months ago , it had me very intrigued , but also very suspicious. This suspicion is a natural reaction , especially to all bitcoiners that have been involved in the bitcoin / cryptocurrency world for a significant amount of time. After reading some initial posts , I dunno I just liked the idea and product. I ordered one !
The producers of digipiglet took everything that was suggested/ thrown at them and re evaluated the idea and product. I was sent a refund before I even knew I needed one.
They must have spent a lot of time thinking about their product and itís security in the last few months .
I will say this is still a work in progress and there a several things that need to be tweaked.
I have absolutely no affiliation with this product/company , but I really do hope this product succeeds. Iím more than happy to be envolved with this charitable project and if this helps the company fine  tune itís final product, kudos to them .
Itís  great thereís input from many , many sources and forum members and I hope it continues.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on November 01, 2019, 09:24:44 AM
So happy to see Piggy get some Welsh acquaintances with green dragon. And now all the way to Greece! And possibly Denmark next on the list.

Will be really cool to have toured all of West and Central Europe and Scandinavia, before moving on to somewhere a bit... Far;) Anyone need help with shipping costs if somehow a problem, do get in touch. Don't mind giving this thing a few more nudges!

Good to see updates. Trust chain intact;)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Kprawn on November 03, 2019, 10:17:16 AM
Is there no easier method to do this online? Sending the actual DigiPiglet from one location to the next is a very slow process. Can you guys not

create a "digital" piglet on a website and then get people to pay $5 for every move it makes. I will be nice to see what country gets the Piglet the

most and you can even hold a little competition to see who holds it the most. Put up some prizes like free piglets for the people who grabs it the

most.                                                    --= Something similar to a capture the flag game. =--


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: JanEmil on November 06, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Next stop Denmark

Anyone from Scandinavia that want to join the The DigiPiglet Journey in 2 weeks after me?


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on November 08, 2019, 12:22:18 AM
DigiPiglet arrived in Greece!

Next stop... Denmark with @JanEmil (parcel is ready & will get dispatched in a couple of hours)

Here are some status updates of the contents of the box so far:

The box that I received was not in good condition. Hence I replaced all packaging materials.  Items included in the box that I dispatched:

1 DigiPiglet (in good condition)
@buwaytress comic strip
Artwork of a piggy with some beans on the bottom right corner (not recall who's it is)
@Mbitr card
@tweetious postcard
3 DigiPiglet stickers

Fingers crossed everything is in there, and nothing got lost till now.

I added some sats at the collection basket total
(TxID: 692a71b42a97c14508d7de54c9023840d8a61393e085eee4f121c23ae0581f3b)


https://i.imgur.com/NxQtw4B.jpg

DigiPiglet with local PhysiPigeon

https://i.imgur.com/yJ7gk7Q.jpg

DigiPiglet @ seaside

https://i.imgur.com/Es1JEpx.jpg

Ancient Greek DigiPiglet

https://i.imgur.com/p8jJXlB.jpg

Postcard top right corner: there is a mention "stamp goes here" so... I did!  :P


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: buwaytress on November 08, 2019, 10:51:01 AM
tweetious, that is some awesome piece of work. And your post, by the way, is just one demonstration of why this trust chain is physical. Kprawn and others might have asked if it could simply be digital all the way but I personally think nothing quite captures this physical aspect. Imagine the story of the DigiPiglet journey across 100 different locations?

Yes, the cost could potentially be prohibitive once it starts going trans-continent, but I'll jump in and remind when I see it do that, that I'll help with postage costs, to some extent anyway.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: DigiPiglet on November 08, 2019, 11:39:33 AM
Wow, so happy to see it moving. Nice pictures tweetious!

It is indeed a little inconvenient to send it physically, but that's what makes it special  :D


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on November 08, 2019, 11:41:02 AM
tweetious, that is some awesome piece of work. And your post, by the way, is just one demonstration of why this trust chain is physical. Kprawn and others might have asked if it could simply be digital all the way but I personally think nothing quite captures this physical aspect. Imagine the story of the DigiPiglet journey across 100 different locations?

Yes, the cost could potentially be prohibitive once it starts going trans-continent, but I'll jump in and remind when I see it do that, that I'll help with postage costs, to some extent anyway.

I slightly messed up with the BTC symbol orientation in my postcard... LOL  ;D Looks more like BCH  :P

100 journeys are A LOT... fingers crossed DigiPiglet will survive!

Concerning the cost... well... receiver knows well in advance, that they have to add to the collection basket + cover dispatching shipping fees to next host... hence no hidden surprises here...


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on November 10, 2019, 12:09:38 PM
Wow, amazing to see all the progress!
Hadn't checked in for a while, so it's great to see all these pictures with the Digipiglet all around Europe.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Corrosive on November 11, 2019, 01:42:39 PM
Jan Emil has messaged me and I am next in line to receive the pig.

Its coming to SCOTLAND!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: JanEmil on November 11, 2019, 02:04:46 PM
All the fin presents we add. What is the purpose of them? We look and add one more?


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: slaman29 on November 12, 2019, 06:31:09 AM
Dude tweetious now you made me know what BCH looks like goddamn haha!

No worries, I have faith in this trust chain. I don't have faith much in postal service in parts of the world. I have been victim multiple times haha. I am living in a very far place from you guys and I lose a lot of mail sent to me, or they are opened because of customs so they are repackaged very badly and damaged.

The cost can be quite a surprise if you're halfway across the world from your next receiver though;) How heavy is this thing?
Jan Emil, actually I don't think we have to add presents. It was just kind of voluntary from those who did. You probably don't want to add anything big, bulky or heavy though!



Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on November 12, 2019, 06:54:19 AM
DigiPiglet alone does not weight a lot. If not mistaken, it's around 40 grams. The package that I sent to Jan (including packaging materials and all the extra contents) was 240 grams.

There is no need to add presents. However, (totally optional) a small piece of paper does not add a significant amount of weight to the total.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on November 12, 2019, 06:57:01 AM
Jan Emil has messaged me and I am next in line to receive the pig.

Its coming to SCOTLAND!

fingers crossed, piglet will not end up as a square sausage...  ;D


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Dabs on November 15, 2019, 04:47:56 PM
Scotland! There can be only one! The highlanding piglet. That is an interesting journey this little piggy has had so far. Yes, just attach a small paper with a short note about where it came from, what it did, and a link to this thread in case someone else intercepts it.


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: JanEmil on November 21, 2019, 01:24:20 PM
Next stop... Denmark with @JanEmil (parcel is ready & will get dispatched in a couple of hours)

Got it yesterday.

https://i.ibb.co/187RRy8/1.jpg
The package was nice and well packed.

DigiPiglet was tired because of the long journey so could not get him out last night.

But this morning he was first man up and ready for work. Danish design is one of the things my country Denmark try to earn from. We have a good tradition for furniture, lamps and other art of use.
My workplace try to build on top of that. Dental units and dental instruments with danish design and good ergonomics. Piggy learned alot about the Danish way.

https://i.ibb.co/6DZWwQs/2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/R42R6r4/3.jpg

DigiPiglet bring a little gift to the next in the chain of trust that don't have a "ZEPHER Coin | In Loving Memory" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124871.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124871.0)

https://i.ibb.co/GTg8bQx/4.jpg

Feel free to take one as long they are there.

@Corrosive and Scotland next in line. Will be shipped to day/night.

Food for Piggy sent
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/98916782b2048542c06d5b3a5dd9b849e373611aaa4a3909a3dd7977f0be9ca0

edit:
Some say my address is there. We all have our beliefs. I know it's silly. But I insist it should be possible to be public even if it is crypto.




Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: tweetious on November 21, 2019, 01:34:01 PM
Next stop... Denmark with @JanEmil (parcel is ready & will get dispatched in a couple of hours)

Got it yesterday.

The package was nice and well packed.


Really glad that arrived safe and sound!   :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on November 21, 2019, 01:41:01 PM
Wahey! Well done , keep on trucking little fella.
Nice touch with the ZEPHER coins too JanEmil - beautiful :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Corrosive on November 25, 2019, 10:18:05 AM
I have received the piglet today, inside the package are some postcards, a note from mbitr and a small packet of bitcoinpenny zepher coins (from Jan Emil) of which i won't take one as i already have some. I will update with some pics once im not sat on my bed wearing my underwear 👍


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Corrosive on November 25, 2019, 12:48:06 PM
There we go. The pig and i went to the local country park for a stroll. We saw the castle, the deer, the stream and lots of wildlife. Little piggy was most intrigued by these large oinking creatures we met along the way....

Pictures taken at Dean Castle Country Park, Scotland

https://i.ibb.co/wQ5HPPF/20191125-115440.jpg (https://ibb.co/wQ5HPPF) https://i.ibb.co/9b1LQ62/20191125-115325.jpg (https://ibb.co/9b1LQ62) https://i.ibb.co/mCWDjP8/20191125-115308.jpg (https://ibb.co/mCWDjP8) https://i.ibb.co/QvG1fwc/20191125-115206.jpg (https://ibb.co/QvG1fwc) https://i.ibb.co/gVdT9H2/20191125-115126.jpg (https://ibb.co/gVdT9H2)

If anyone else in the UK wants to recieve the piglet, publicly mention in here then we can sort out addresses via PM.

Will add a btc donation later, cheers 👍


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: eternalgloom on December 01, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
Oh man, I'm kinda sad that I didn't think about including such cool pictures and personal gifts to the package.
I'd really want to receive it again near the end, though that might go against what the piggy stands for :P

I'd pay good money to get another chance!


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Corrosive on December 02, 2019, 03:08:23 PM
Does anyone in the UK want it???


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: BitcoinPenny on December 02, 2019, 03:22:23 PM
There we go. The pig and i went to the local country park for a stroll. We saw the castle, the deer, the stream and lots of wildlife. Little piggy was most intrigued by these large oinking creatures we met along the way....

Pictures taken at Dean Castle Country Park, Scotland

Awesome pics! ;D

Regards,
Me


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: vizique on December 02, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
Send it down

:D

Viz


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on December 02, 2019, 03:31:52 PM
Send it down

:D

Viz
Sadly no merits left to send , but well done vizique  :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Corrosive on December 02, 2019, 03:45:47 PM
Vizique is next in line. I will send out ASAP 👍👍


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Mbitr on December 16, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Where are you little piggy ?
Where will you be for Xmas ?
Stay warm, but watch out for people offering your blankets over the holidays  :)


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: JanEmil on December 16, 2019, 11:34:00 AM
Where are you little piggy ?
Where will you be for Xmas ?
Stay warm, but watch out for people offering your blankets over the holidays  :)

Christmas can be dangerous for a little piggy  :o


Title: Re: The DigiPiglet Journey
Post by: Reddiss on December 16, 2019, 05:17:30 PM
Piggy piggy where will u be in xmas