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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: offordscott on September 14, 2019, 03:26:53 AM



Title: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 14, 2019, 03:26:53 AM
SCAM ALERT!

prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/bitharp-launches-new-mining-rigs-lyre-miner-and-harp-miner-884301037.html

This press release seems suspicious to me.

BitHarp Group Limited
bitharp.com
is claiming to be a renowned mining manufacturer and supposedly have a multi-algorithm miner that can do SHA256 at 2000TH/s @ 2400W.

Your discussion here is welcome, but please do not link directly to these websites in any replies here as it will only help propagate the false new in the search engines.



Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: LemineurdeBitcoin on September 16, 2019, 09:34:17 AM
HI Scott,
I'm in contact with the guy. You're right, it's suspicious to mee too. No way to see the machine runing, only if we come in NZ. I checked, the company is not registered in canada or NZ. When the answer is "you have to pay in crypto, only, via our web site; if you don't trust us, wait", it stinks a scam, sure.

 quote author=offordscott link=topic=5184447.msg52449033#msg52449033 date=1568431613]
prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/bitharp-launches-new-mining-rigs-lyre-miner-and-harp-miner-884301037.html

This press release seems suspicious to me.

BitHarp Group Limited
bitharp.com
is claiming to be a renowned mining manufacturer and supposedly have a multi-algorithm miner that can do SHA256 at 2000TH/s @ 2400W.

Your discussion here is welcome, but please do not link directly to these websites in any replies here as it will only help propagate the false new in the search engines.


[/quote]


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 16, 2019, 10:39:01 AM
It is just not scientifically/physically possible to do what they are claiming their miners can do.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: cryptogrampa on September 16, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
their Lyre miner claims to be able to switch between BTC, LTC, ETH, and DASH.  That doesn't seem possible. Also, 335 TH/S while consuming 600W of power of 110V or 240V?? for $5,000 USD? 20 decibels?  This tech would be vastly ahead of anything currently on the market. I have no doubt some mining manufacturers produce some uber miners which never hit the market but what is being claimed by Bitharp is too good to be true.
If their product worked as claimed, the mining industry would be revolutionized and this company would be the top dog. I think it's unrealistic. I'll wait for the reviews by reputable people in the mining space.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: stompix on September 17, 2019, 04:07:03 PM
their Lyre miner claims to be able to switch between BTC, LTC, ETH, and DASH.  That doesn't seem possible. Also, 335 TH/S while consuming 600W of power of 110V or 240V?? for $5,000 USD? 20 decibels?

Funny how the sound is the most outrageous things of all, at least in one aspect try and be real.
The s17 from bitmain is getting 55j/TH this ....thing is getting 2j/TH? What's this, a stargate?

I traced the lyra picture to some Korean newspaper but I'm wondering what the harp was innitially as it's clear from the marking it is  also a modified image:
https://i.imgur.com/pFPc5yX.png

The address in Canada is from an office rental service, the one in NZ points to a house....

Anyhow, just from the specs you need to stay away from it, if this would be real nobody would sell it as you would get more in two weeks of mining.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: Brigo on September 17, 2019, 04:20:35 PM
BitHarp Group Ltd..... 'A distinguished manufacturer' with HQ in 190 Richmond Street in Wellington.

Here are a few facts.
=============

No info on them on the internet before they bought their domain on 8. August 2019 and sent out their press release last week.

There is no registered company in New Zealand by that name. (https://www.companiesoffice.govt.nz/)

Richmond street has no higher number than 150.
(Use Google Maps. Enter the address: 190 Richmond Street, Petone, Lower Hutt, New Zealand.
Then Zoom in and see that the Pin is on nr 150, which is the last building on the street).



Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 17, 2019, 04:22:54 PM
What I'd like to know is... who are those people in their youtube video? Actors?


youtube.com/watch?v=EA-y3KfXX10



(please don't link directly to the video, I don't want to give them more credibility in the search engines)


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 17, 2019, 04:26:43 PM
Here is a BTC address that I say during the checkout process: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1694tyDeNVvicxEKP3p9KUQc8tGnYdkKu7


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 17, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6NDvfdz.png

https://i.imgur.com/86L9V3G.png



Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: trapcoder666 on September 17, 2019, 04:50:47 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6NDvfdz.png

https://i.imgur.com/86L9V3G.png



Should report it to namecheap. Looks like BitHarp is using them to host their site.

Also the youtube video of the interview looks so fake and the statement at the end, will be revealed on Discovery lol.  ::) imaginative buggers.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: stompix on September 17, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
What I'd like to know is... who are those people in their youtube video? Actors?

Yeah, you can get that kind of cheap videos on Fiverr for 100$ especially if it's a 1 min two lines one.
Most of the lowe level ICO scams use them, it's also hard as hell to trace the order back, plus there are tons of professional sites with hundreds of actors, really searching in the haystack for them.

Here is a BTC address that I say during the checkout process: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1694tyDeNVvicxEKP3p9KUQc8tGnYdkKu7

OMG!!!
3 orders? And since they have no reason to fake those as ICOs do, those are probably genuine customers.
15k scammed already? For a maximum of 500$ in website/promotion/ads pretty lucrative.

Should report it to namecheap.

I'll drop them a mail tomorrow but I doubt they will take actions soon, more reports by different persons would help, with a bit or a bit more luck the domain name might get suspended, unfortunately, I've never seen something like this happening (yet).


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: sddenver on September 18, 2019, 10:50:49 AM
It looks like they only take bitcoin to purchase one of these machines.

The crazy thing is that if you do a search on this company and these "new miners" you see how many reputable site have just copied and pasted their press release as an article.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 18, 2019, 11:43:08 AM
Iíve informed PR sites in the past about fake news (regarding a different mining equipment manufacturer scam site) and they told me they do not remove content. So, it is very highly likely that the press releases are going to be their forever.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: trapcoder666 on September 18, 2019, 11:47:25 AM
It looks like they only take bitcoin to purchase one of these machines.

The crazy thing is that if you do a search on this company and these "new miners" you see how many reputable site have just copied and pasted their press release as an article.

You can submit a press release to businesswire for about 400-500 if im not mistaken. Then the rest of the sites will leech. So Unknowning people seeing such news on 'yahoo finance' will definitely think its real. It's really bad.


Title: Confirmed Scam. Is BitHarp a Scam. Yes, BitHarp is a Scam.
Post by: offordscott on September 18, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
My previous life, I was an SEO expert. Here's something you all can do to help stop people from getting scammed by these guys.

Go to a search engine and type:
bitharp

When the results are displayed, scroll down to find the BitcoinTalk forum post and click on that result.

Then, go back to the search engine and type
bitharp scam

When the results are displayed, scroll down to find the BitcoinTalk forum post and click on that result.

Post more replies on this thread so that there is more content for the search engines to crawl and archive.

Post a blog on your own personal or professional website that has the words "Bitharp" and "Scam" in the title / heading / URL, etc. And post the link here.
 
Get your friends to do the same.

Rinse.

Repeat.



Title: Scam BitHarp Lyre Miner. BitHarp Miner Scam.
Post by: offordscott on September 18, 2019, 01:48:09 PM
 
  

    https://www.scottofford.com/2019/09/bitharp-scam-lyre-miner/ (https://www.scottofford.com/2019/09/bitharp-scam-lyre-miner/)

  
  
 


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: rezwalker on September 20, 2019, 06:44:48 AM
happy to see the thread
it's so obvious the company is a scam I wonder why they gave that high
profitability anyone can be alarmed

anyway someone will make a review soon i guess

btw i try email em 3 times, still waiting :P for an answer


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 20, 2019, 02:08:38 PM
They are up to 14 BTC transactions now:

Total Received   3.4238 BTC   

Final Balance   0 BTC

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1694tyDeNVvicxEKP3p9KUQc8tGnYdkKu7

This needs to be stopped. Innocent people are getting harmed by these scammers.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: Balaxi on September 23, 2019, 10:11:41 AM
They continue to pump out press release after press release with fake news / false information.

prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitharp-introduces-new-technology-in-cryptocurrency-mining-300922317.html


THIS IS A SCAM!

These funny clueless bastards published their crap even in Hungarian. There is no significant mining operation in Hungary.

https://www.bitcoinbazis.hu/neves-portalokon-a-bitharp-atveres/


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 23, 2019, 01:21:20 PM
Can you please wrap that url in the
Code:
[pre] [/pre]
markdown so it doesnít help them gain authority in the search engines?


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: GarySeven on September 23, 2019, 08:36:53 PM
Where is Vosk when you need him?  :D


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 23, 2019, 08:39:46 PM
Iíve asked him to make a video :-)


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: mineshop.eu on September 24, 2019, 03:10:12 PM
Welcome to Crypto, Full of SCAM  ;D


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: okeefecj on September 25, 2019, 01:49:21 AM
I sent Vosk a note to. Maybe he'll take a look and stop a lot of people from lousing there BTC. Anything that sounds to good to be true isn't.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: albypaul on September 26, 2019, 01:43:00 PM
We all know it's not possible and it does look like a BIG SCAM! and i am nor naive or gullible and the best way is to notify those that are ,so help any one that needs a refresher course on how not to be scammed.

PEOPLE DON'T FALL FOR SCAMS.

Oh and i did a picture search via google images .
How did i do this go to google images then click the camera icon with in the search textbox and just type this : product-image-1.png

Also i had sent them a email and they just got back to me and this is the address they have on the email also the shop you want to look for is Kanata Gymnosphere.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/430+Hazeldean+Rd,+Kanata,+ON+K2L+1T9,+Canada/@45.3012004,-75.8816993,3a,75y,220.68h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfZRNed0C4KfXrpo8u-cDcQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfZRNed0C4KfXrpo8u-cDcQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D220.6763%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x4ccdffa31faf2db7:0xf7f1aaa35b79ed6e!8m2!3d45.3008268!4d-75.8821301?hl=en (https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/430+Hazeldean+Rd,+Kanata,+ON+K2L+1T9,+Canada/@45.3012004,-75.8816993,3a,75y,220.68h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfZRNed0C4KfXrpo8u-cDcQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfZRNed0C4KfXrpo8u-cDcQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D220.6763%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x4ccdffa31faf2db7:0xf7f1aaa35b79ed6e!8m2!3d45.3008268!4d-75.8821301?hl=en)

Full message and all i asked was do you accept BTC:

BitHarp <info@bitharp.com>
Thu 26/09/2019 10:20 PM
Dear Albert,

Yes, we accept Bitcoin .

Regards,

Alex Homes
Sales Representative
+1 705 910 2226
BitHarp Group Limited
430 Hazeldean Road, Ottawa
Ontario K2L 1T9, Canada


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: Army11B1P on September 27, 2019, 04:55:47 AM

Well Ė here is one of the suckers (probably the only one anybody will hear from).  Iím one of the lucky guys who mined back in CPU days and still have FU coin from then. 

I buy ASICS just to see what is going on from an engineering standpoint and even make them more profitable by taking them apart and never putting them back together again.  This earns $250 a month in electrical savings (anybody need S9 parts?).

I saw articles on this on all the feeds and, at a price of 0.4btc Ė not a problem, I really wanted to see this well-engineered liquid ASICÖ

This hurt my pride (and feelings) as an enthusiast and senior software developer, but the 0.4btc wonít be missed.  However, this is going to be catastrophic for many since my assumption is they went to coinbase and turned fiat savings into btc to get in on the gold rush. Unfortunately, times have not changed, and we bought claims that didnít exist before ever reaching Dawson.

The specs are so ridiculous, the video so odd and the after-payment offer of buy 2 get 1 free (on a rig that should be sold out) I knew something was upÖ Iíve been bored, and this gives me something to do for a bit.  They made a mistake somewhere in the registration of the sites that Iím sure Iíll find a common IP and start prodding.  The coin is currently being split with the same fractional bot all scammers use. 

[psudo]
ForEach(Coin.Fraction fraction in stolenCoin)
{
     List<Wallet> walletList = Wallets.Create(2).ToList();
     walletList.First().SendAmount(stolenCoin, fraction);
     walletList.Last().SendAmount(stolenCoin.Remainder);
     WalletTuple.AddWallets(walletList);
}



My thoughts:

I think you are all on the right track.  Finding who produced the video might not be as difficult as you think.  They are either professionals(?) or in on the scam.  I wouldnít want my scammer face to be visible in a video posted on-the-line to the Interweb Highway Tubes, so we can assume they are really bad actors [pun].  I wouldn't want my face to be associated with a scam large enough to cause the very real possibility of violence.

One thing is for sure Ė we need to get the word out to keep others from ruining themselves financially.  I say take it to Reddit and let those animals out of their cage.
 
Following the press releases and articles also puts pressure on the source and authors, who like the "actors" will not like being associated with a scam of $5000 per person magnitudes.  A person who makes a living as an SEO wants to be seen an expert on several topics, seen but low profile, certainly not associated with this and become a reddit victim.

Freelance SEOís scrape a living by pulling projects from sites like TrueLancer.  These are paid content... somebody is paying.  I have sent the site editors of every article written and reposted to different blogs by the same author why (specifically David Cox) would lend legitimacy to a company that popped into existence only recentlyÖ by making them sound like industry leaders.

Here are two authors I found consistent articles from that specifically tout this product as if they had seen it.

TONY PHILIP ORESO
Professional SEO   
go.ndash.[ko]/public/writer/profile/5857c78e47a1f80010d1c692
www.truelancer.[komm]/freelancer/tluser2178c148#

Articles Supporting Scam   
Coindoo[komm] - [bith arps]--newest-cryptocurrency-mining-machines-are-a-great-success 
https://coindoo[komm] /author/tony/

theccpress[komm] /new-mining-rigs-from-[bith arp]-to-hit-the-cryptocurrency-market-with-high-performance/
theccpress.[komm]/author/tony/

   
David Cox
cryptonewsz.[komm]/author/david-cox/

Note: He dates back a while.
David Cox makes a serious mistake in his article as he writes from an industry expert perspective "The well-known cryptocurrency manufacturer, [bith arp] Group..." and cites the article as his own.  So he either copy-pastaíd a PR into a blog post for pay or knows something about the company we donít.

(isn't the chief engineer at [bith arp] a Cox as well?)

Article:   
cryptonewsz[kom]/[bith arp]-group-limited-releases-liquid-mining-rigs-[liar]-miner-and-harp-miner/42508/


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: VoskCoin on September 27, 2019, 02:18:51 PM
havent read the thread so unsure if someone beat me to my joke.. but!

theres a reason its called the lyre miner

LIAR

LOL  ;D


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: VoskCoin on September 27, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
Where is Vosk when you need him?  :D
been playing catch-up this week but I will dispense what justice I can, today! lol


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: VoskCoin on September 27, 2019, 02:26:33 PM
I sent Vosk a note to. Maybe he'll take a look and stop a lot of people from lousing there BTC. Anything that sounds to good to be true isn't.
appreciate the heads up :D


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: VoskCoin on September 27, 2019, 08:12:20 PM
Hopefully Bitcointalk mods wont delete this post as they've deleted several of mine recently when I've shared a video I created in another thread
HOWEVER TO THE POINT

Here's my (hopefully funny) review on the super fake scammy Bitharp Lyre and Harp miners!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cw4OWeXiJQ
https://i.imgur.com/5L67xDJl.png

Also just for reference & history

fake scam Bitharp Lyre miner rendering
https://i.imgur.com/vFeZDuAl.png

fake scam Bitharp Harp miner rendering
https://i.imgur.com/kW1HQy0l.png


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 27, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
Awesome job Drew!


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: albypaul on September 28, 2019, 07:28:44 AM
Nice video VoskCoin oh and i sent them another email asking them if they were legit or scamming and of course they have not and will not reply.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on September 30, 2019, 05:23:47 PM
Another review video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uoh8U8usu3w



Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on October 01, 2019, 02:07:13 PM
Please upvote this on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/dbssyx/cryptomining_product_brokers_reveal_bitharp_scam/

Scott


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on October 02, 2019, 02:00:28 PM
Watch this video clip of a guy reviewing my press release.

This guy is hilarious: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z1r4guVqV9A


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on October 02, 2019, 02:13:31 PM
Another article about the #bitharp #scam: https://btcmanager.com/bitharp-scam-misleading-specs-falsified-information/


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: offordscott on October 13, 2019, 01:56:09 PM
lol. Itís Ethan!

BitHarp is a New Zealand based cryptocurrency manufacturer of the most high-performance and flexible Mining rigs built with the goal of making mining easier and more profitable for investors.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: albypaul on November 18, 2019, 12:08:32 AM
BitHarp is a New Zealand based cryptocurrency manufacturer of the most high-performance and flexible Mining rigs built with the goal of making mining easier and more profitable for investors dgcustomerfirst (https://www.dgcustomerfirst.net/)


Well Ethan we want actual proof not hear say or the old word of mouth mate i am a aussie and even i know you guys over in kiwi land are smart but hey no ones that smart mate so prove it.If you're that sure of you're product send a review unit to voskcoin i F!@#en DARE you.


Title: Re: BitHarp Scam? Lyre Miner & Harp Miner
Post by: VoskCoin on November 18, 2019, 07:48:36 PM
BitHarp is a New Zealand based cryptocurrency manufacturer of the most high-performance and flexible Mining rigs built with the goal of making mining easier and more profitable for investors dgcustomerfirst (https://www.dgcustomerfirst.net/)


Well Ethan we want actual proof not hear say or the old word of mouth mate i am a aussie and even i know you guys over in kiwi land are smart but hey no ones that smart mate so prove it.If you're that sure of you're product send a review unit to voskcoin i F!@#en DARE you.
I double dog dare them too, lol :D