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Title: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Baofeng on October 02, 2019, 11:32:18 AM
Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Date: October 5
Venue: Madison Square Garden

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Gennady Golovkin is setting out to regain a title he held for over half a decade as it has been revealed that the Kazak's showdown with Ukranian standout Sergiy Dereyvanchenko will also be for the IBO world middleweight title. The vacant IBF title is also at stake.

Golovkin first picked up the IBO version of the world title back in 2011 with a brutal first-round knockout of Lajuan Simon in Dusseldorf, Germany. In under 12 months 'GGG' had really landed on the world scene, as he put on a clinic against Grzegorz Proksa on his US Debut at the Turning Stone Resort in upstate New York before proceeding to have a blood bath against Gabriel Rosado, a fight that's iconic images still live fresh in the mind of boxing fans throughout the globe.

https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-vs-dereyvanchenko-vacant-ibo-title-also-stake--142876

Since Canelo is no longer interested on GGG, Golovkin finally decided to fight a dangerous fighter in Dereyvanchenko. So this will be a tough test for GGG here and I'm sure he want's to prove that he is still the same fighter even at age 36. So there's no surprise that he is the favourite to win this match.


Current odds at sportsbet.io

https://i.ibb.co/B3drKDC/Screen-Shot-2019-10-02-at-7-27-13-PM.png (https://ibb.co/tKkxPfJ)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Jating on October 02, 2019, 11:46:36 AM
I'm not familiar with Dereyvanchenko so I checked his boxing record,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/691996

He looks solid but when we step up the competition against Daniel Jacobs, he lost. So for me, he doesn't have that elite level status as compare to triple G here.

So I would definitely say that Triple G can easily win this fight and it could end in a knockout. As far as age goes, he still got it even though we know that he won the first fight against Canelo and the second was a close one that can go either way.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 02, 2019, 11:51:07 AM
1.22 looks quite good for GGG, considering that Dereyvanchenko has almost no chance of surviving to the 12th round. That is a 15%-20% straight return after the taxes are deducted. The fight will be happening at the Madison Square Garden, and I hope this time the judges don't spoil the fight with their biased scores (most probably they won't need to do that, as Serhiy is going to get knocked out).

Around one year back, I was burning in anguish after watching Canelo Álvarez stealing the fight against GGG with the help from the jury. Out of the 18 media outlets covering the fight, only one had a scoreline favoring Álvarez. But still Dave Moretti and Steve Weisfeld awarded the match to Álvarez, and I consider this decision as an absolute disgrace to the sport of Boxing.

Canelo is no longer interested in fighting GGG, because he knows that he can't beat him without the support from the judges.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 02, 2019, 12:35:50 PM
Dereyvanchenko looks huge and GGG still in great shape (open workout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtCw4hMxkFA)

Nothing against Dereyvanchenko but I also give this fight to GGG. Experience, skills, and power still with him despite being past his prime. I'm pretty sure the guy is hungry again.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Ranly123 on October 02, 2019, 12:44:59 PM
I'm not familiar with Dereyvanchenko so I checked his boxing record,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/691996

He looks solid but when we step up the competition against Daniel Jacobs, he lost. So for me, he doesn't have that elite level status as compare to triple G here.

So I would definitely say that Triple G can easily win this fight and it could end in a knockout. As far as age goes, he still got it even though we know that he won the first fight against Canelo and the second was a close one that can go either way.

That's right. I think it's an easy win for triple G. Even I am not interested in watching this fight but I will place me bet on triple G on sportsbet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: pereira4 on October 02, 2019, 12:52:23 PM
I'm not familiar with Dereyvanchenko so I checked his boxing record,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/691996

He looks solid but when we step up the competition against Daniel Jacobs, he lost. So for me, he doesn't have that elite level status as compare to triple G here.

So I would definitely say that Triple G can easily win this fight and it could end in a knockout. As far as age goes, he still got it even though we know that he won the first fight against Canelo and the second was a close one that can go either way.

That's right. I think it's an easy win for triple G. Even I am not interested in watching this fight but I will place me bet on triple G on sportsbet.


Should be easy for Golovkin, but should be doesn't mean it's really an easy fight.. I don't believe in easy fights anymore after i've seen Andy Ruiz and Otto Wallins beat and on the second case scare us with that massive cut on Tyson's eye which almost ends up in TKO. Combat sports is a crazy sport, everything can change so easily.

Perhaps that is just things which happen in heavyweight and here we have a safe triple G bet for UD or KO, but I no longer feel safe even on those bets. The odds are so crap that it doesn't pay that much unless you have a massive amount to risk, you have to factor in taxes.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: dothebeats on October 02, 2019, 01:51:07 PM
GGG is the clear favorite to win here, as Dereyvanchenko himself hasn't posted any significant match results as of late. He looks mean and looks like he's always that grungy player based on his built but the skill of GGG, alongside his jabs and footwork would surely make Sergiy a bit too tired early on in the game. 1.22 is a juicy odd already given the match-up, but I'll expect it to drop even further down as we get closer to the event day.

I'll take the 1.22 @ GGG.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: sheenshane on October 02, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
At this match, I will favor on Golovkin fight than Dereyvanchenko. Physically dimension Golovkin has an advantage compared to his opponent and also Golovkin has experienced too many big fights. In other words, the chances of winning are on his side. No wonder he has a good solid odds on this match and his opponent has not yet had a big name on a boxing career.

I will try to place my bet in a little amount in sportsbet later that can I afford.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: judeafante on October 02, 2019, 02:17:39 PM
The guy is very tough and loves to go inside, we have a saying in boxing style makes fight, so with similar style going  for the title we can expect a slug fest here, but Golovkin has a clear edge here, he has proven himself as one of the best middleweight fighter, I'd like to congratulate Golovkin this early he will dominate this fight it's now how Golovkin will beat him by knock out or decision,


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: robelneo on October 02, 2019, 02:18:14 PM
The one that comes out when I check his name on Youtube because honestly, I don't know who Dereyvanchenko is, is his fight against Jacobs and I think he is tough but not as tough as Golovkin, I believe we have a match here but I expect Golovkin to dominate the fight and win by unanimous decision, this guy Dereyvanchenko is a slugger and we all know Golovkin love to fight inside so we have a good fight coming in.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 02, 2019, 02:23:02 PM
I guess this is a dangerous fighter for Golovkin indeed, After Drawing in his first fight with Canelo Alvarez and losing the second one I really think that he will have a very hard time with Derevyanchenko, Talk about getting bias here but that is how I see things and Derevyanchenko is durable in the ring he doesn't have blazing speed but he is not slow either.

Derevyenchenko got a formidable power but not that formidable and he is a guy that is not easy to be hit, I guess Golovkin is not so motivated in this fight not like what he has between a Canelo Alvarez fight, We might say that he is not motivational to win this so I guess we can see a Derevyanchenko win it might be a Unanimous Decision regarding the performance Derevyanchenko could give.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: South Park on October 02, 2019, 02:34:08 PM
I'm not familiar with Dereyvanchenko so I checked his boxing record,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/691996

He looks solid but when we step up the competition against Daniel Jacobs, he lost. So for me, he doesn't have that elite level status as compare to triple G here.

So I would definitely say that Triple G can easily win this fight and it could end in a knockout. As far as age goes, he still got it even though we know that he won the first fight against Canelo and the second was a close one that can go either way.

That's right. I think it's an easy win for triple G. Even I am not interested in watching this fight but I will place me bet on triple G on sportsbet.


Should be easy for Golovkin, but should be doesn't mean it's really an easy fight.. I don't believe in easy fights anymore after i've seen Andy Ruiz and Otto Wallins beat and on the second case scare us with that massive cut on Tyson's eye which almost ends up in TKO. Combat sports is a crazy sport, everything can change so easily.

Perhaps that is just things which happen in heavyweight and here we have a safe triple G bet for UD or KO, but I no longer feel safe even on those bets. The odds are so crap that it doesn't pay that much unless you have a massive amount to risk, you have to factor in taxes.
That is why the fights are fought on the first place, if we could determine the winner by just looking at the records of each fighter and how they fought in the past then sports will lose their appeal, in fact there is nothing I enjoy the most than an individual or team that supposedly does not have a chance to win pull an upset and shock the world, the Andy Ruiz fight is the perfect example of this, no one gave him a chance and even mocked him by the way he looks but he showed the world that at least in that day he could convincingly beat the heavyweight champion of the world.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: TravelMug on October 02, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
Dereyvanchenko looks huge and GGG still in great shape (open workout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtCw4hMxkFA)

That's what I was about to say, based on the picture above, Dereyvanchenko is huge but it doesn't matter though. As Golovkin is used on fighting bigger guys on his division.

Nothing against Dereyvanchenko but I also give this fight to GGG. Experience, skills, and power still with him despite being past his prime. I'm pretty sure the guy is hungry again.

I'm positive that there will be a third fight with Canelo, but not just today, GGG needs to be hungry and still show that he still has that power that we all boxing fans are awe when he started to make a name for himself.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: coin-investor on October 02, 2019, 02:54:27 PM
I guess this is a dangerous fighter for Golovkin indeed, After Drawing in his first fight with Canelo Alvarez and losing the second one I really think that he will have a very hard time with Derevyanchenko, Talk about getting bias here but that is how I see things and Derevyanchenko is durable in the ring he doesn't have blazing speed but he is not slow either.

Derevyenchenko got a formidable power but not that formidable and he is a guy that is not easy to be hit, I guess Golovkin is not so motivated in this fight not like what he has between a Canelo Alvarez fight, We might say that he is not motivational to win this so I guess we can see a Derevyanchenko win it might be a Unanimous Decision regarding the performance Derevyanchenko could give.

I checked Dereyvanchenko and I'm not impressed at all then I checked both of their fights against Jacobs and it seems Golovkin has the upper hand, about motivation I don't think so his motivation should be high he is coming from a lost and he needs to regain that belt again if he loses here, that's two in a row and might as well retire Golovkin is a fighter and he will do everything to win here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: madnessteat on October 02, 2019, 03:39:32 PM
Very strange coefficients. Both boxers are good and have approximately the same parameters. I don't really understand why the odds on Sergei Derevyantshenko is 4.21. I think we should bet on Gennady Golovkin, but this is my personal opinion, not advice.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 02, 2019, 05:37:27 PM
I guess this is a dangerous fighter for Golovkin indeed, After Drawing in his first fight with Canelo Alvarez and losing the second one I really think that he will have a very hard time with Derevyanchenko, Talk about getting bias here but that is how I see things and Derevyanchenko is durable in the ring he doesn't have blazing speed but he is not slow either.

Derevyenchenko got a formidable power but not that formidable and he is a guy that is not easy to be hit, I guess Golovkin is not so motivated in this fight not like what he has between a Canelo Alvarez fight, We might say that he is not motivational to win this so I guess we can see a Derevyanchenko win it might be a Unanimous Decision regarding the performance Derevyanchenko could give.

I checked Dereyvanchenko and I'm not impressed at all then I checked both of their fights against Jacobs and it seems Golovkin has the upper hand, about motivation I don't think so his motivation should be high he is coming from a lost and he needs to regain that belt again if he loses here, that's two in a row and might as well retire Golovkin is a fighter and he will do everything to win here.

Well, that is just what I think about GGG Golovkin, I have said that he is not motivated because in his first match with Canelo was a draw and the rematched have happened and on that rematch he then a loss to Canelo I guess a fight with Canelo will gain that confidence and motivation he just eager to get, Well this is just my theory with Golovkin, He may underestimate Derevyancheko and I am saying that Derevyanchenko might have a UN win against Golovkin because I am seeing Golovkin a better fighter than him.

And Golovkin is not intending to make this fight because he is still obsessed with beating up Canelo Alvarez Because he got some issues regarding that fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Upgate on October 02, 2019, 08:25:10 PM
Two good fighters it's really hard to pick from this two fist wielding strong men, Golovkin however would be my selection he has shown massive uplift and good work power he has also shown hunger for the belt but we would still find out who gets it after the match


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Malsetid on October 02, 2019, 09:15:18 PM
I guess this is a dangerous fighter for Golovkin indeed, After Drawing in his first fight with Canelo Alvarez and losing the second one I really think that he will have a very hard time with Derevyanchenko, Talk about getting bias here but that is how I see things and Derevyanchenko is durable in the ring he doesn't have blazing speed but he is not slow either.

Derevyenchenko got a formidable power but not that formidable and he is a guy that is not easy to be hit, I guess Golovkin is not so motivated in this fight not like what he has between a Canelo Alvarez fight, We might say that he is not motivational to win this so I guess we can see a Derevyanchenko win it might be a Unanimous Decision regarding the performance Derevyanchenko could give.

I checked Dereyvanchenko and I'm not impressed at all then I checked both of their fights against Jacobs and it seems Golovkin has the upper hand, about motivation I don't think so his motivation should be high he is coming from a lost and he needs to regain that belt again if he loses here, that's two in a row and might as well retire Golovkin is a fighter and he will do everything to win here.

Well, that is just what I think about GGG Golovkin, I have said that he is not motivated because in his first match with Canelo was a draw and the rematched have happened and on that rematch he then a loss to Canelo I guess a fight with Canelo will gain that confidence and motivation he just eager to get, Well this is just my theory with Golovkin, He may underestimate Derevyancheko and I am saying that Derevyanchenko might have a UN win against Golovkin because I am seeing Golovkin a better fighter than him.

And Golovkin is not intending to make this fight because he is still obsessed with beating up Canelo Alvarez Because he got some issues regarding that fight.

Canelo's not going to give him another shot immediately though. If GGG  beats Derevyanchenko, which he most likely will, that should set up a hype for the third match with alvarez. Though golovkin for me is still very much an elite boxer, he's not getting any younger and would need to win more fights to boost his stock. So fights like this should be an advantage for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Kemarit on October 02, 2019, 10:30:23 PM
GGG is the clear favorite to win here, as Dereyvanchenko himself hasn't posted any significant match results as of late. He looks mean and looks like he's always that grungy player based on his built but the skill of GGG, alongside his jabs and footwork would surely make Sergiy a bit too tired early on in the game. 1.22 is a juicy odd already given the match-up, but I'll expect it to drop even further down as we get closer to the event day.

I'll take the 1.22 @ GGG.

Very attractive odds indeed. But I'm expecting it to drop as well as to draw near the fight day. Dereyvanchenko built is different though, for me its looks like a Canelo upgrade as far this his physical form, but if we talk about skills it's very different. So I will go with the consensus that Gennady Golovkin can easily win this fight. He said in interviews that he wanted to be a technician when this fight. So I don't know how the hell it will be effective because GGG loves to come in, you can be a technician if the other fighter is back pedaling, but we all know that GGG won't back down. So that's a wrong strategy, what he really needs to do is more movement and don't get caught in the corner, otherwise it will be over.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: GreatArkansas on October 02, 2019, 10:52:54 PM
Gennady Golovkin is totally beast.
Look at their boxing records:

https://i.imgflip.com/3c7tgu.jpg Vs https://i.imgflip.com/3c7tch.jpg

85% Knock Outs of Gennady Golovkin against of 71% Knock Outs on Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
Well, that's why the odds is really favor on Gennady Golovkin especially when the his boxing records is really high compare to Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
Even the height is favor on Gennady Golovkin which is 179cm againdt 175cm on Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
This Gennady Golovkin is totally lot of experience since his boxing debut was 2006-05-06 and on Sergiy Derevyanchenko was 2014-07-23.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: notblox1 on October 02, 2019, 11:01:47 PM
Golovkin has record of 39-1-1 with  35 KO !
It has nice odds for KO WIN around 2.15

Golovkin also has 3" reach advantage, but I am not sure it will be so easy fight for him.
Maybe he is not so motivated because of Canelo situation,
and Derevyanchenko has wanted to fight Golovkin since 2017,
so he will be on fire and fully motivated for sure.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on October 02, 2019, 11:45:29 PM
I will bet on Golovkin on this one. The record of his opponent is quite impressive but the experience of Golovkin is enough to put him down. However, I don’t think a knockout is possible on this fight as both fighters know how to avoid such power punches since both are known knock out artist.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: bisdak40 on October 03, 2019, 08:44:45 AM
So I would definitely say that Triple G can easily win this fight and it could end in a knockout. As far as age goes, he still got it even though we know that he won the first fight against Canelo and the second was a close one that can go either way.

This is a "stay busy" for GGG as the third fight between him and Canelo is not happening too soon. My gut tells me that he would win this fight but not easy though as there are no such thing as an easy fight as he is getting older :).

That 1.22 odds is good for bettors and i will take that. Hope all odds are like this, not the 1.01 ;D.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: narcopop on October 03, 2019, 09:33:25 AM
I will bet on Golovkin on this one. The record of his opponent is quite impressive but the experience of Golovkin is enough to put him down. However, I don’t think a knockout is possible on this fight as both fighters know how to avoid such power punches since both are known knock out artist.

But GGG is still GGG. He's one of the very best boxers of our times. And one of the best knockouters as well. For me, anything different from his safe victory will be a surprise on Saturday.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Quidat on October 03, 2019, 11:57:34 AM
Golovkin has record of 39-1-1 with  35 KO !
It has nice odds for KO WIN around 2.15

Golovkin also has 3" reach advantage, but I am not sure it will be so easy fight for him.
Maybe he is not so motivated because of Canelo situation,
and Derevyanchenko has wanted to fight Golovkin since 2017,
so he will be on fire and fully motivated for sure.

Both are hard puncher but on numbers we do see clearly on whose have the edge on here.
Im not underestimating Derevyanchenko but on experience basis im with golovkin for this one.


That 1.22 odds is good for bettors and i will take that. Hope all odds are like this, not the 1.01 ;D.
Those odds would still exist though.lol


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Hypnosis00 on October 03, 2019, 12:15:27 PM
I will bet on Golovkin on this one. The record of his opponent is quite impressive but the experience of Golovkin is enough to put him down. However, I don’t think a knockout is possible on this fight as both fighters know how to avoid such power punches since both are known knock out artist.

But GGG is still GGG. He's one of the very best boxers of our times. And one of the best knockouters as well. For me, anything different from his safe victory will be a surprise on Saturday.
Then let's see it how he could prove something and worthy to be called as best knockouters.
I'm still a fan of GGG even though he lost his fight against Canelo. What I may in here is that this fight will be a tough fight for him. Cause it is not all about the records and to take advantage of his opponent but to consider Dereyvanchenko is a hungry fighter in which he looks aggressive and could really give a good fight against GGG. Will it hope that GGG can be like Manny... ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 03, 2019, 01:47:28 PM
Dont know on how "The technician" would perform out if GGG would be his opponent.If we do try to look out some performance highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwxt00ECJnE This guys is somewhat an aggressive one and i do agree with this guys view.

So I don't know how the hell it will be effective because GGG loves to come in, you can be a technician if the other fighter is back pedaling, but we all know that GGG won't back down. So that's a wrong strategy, what he really needs to do is more movement and don't get caught in the corner, otherwise it will be over.

Fully contrary if we do try to look at their fighting style.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: judeafante on October 03, 2019, 03:12:46 PM
Dont know on how "The technician" would perform out if GGG would be his opponent.If we do try to look out some performance highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwxt00ECJnE This guys is somewhat an aggressive one and i do agree with this guys view.

So I don't know how the hell it will be effective because GGG loves to come in, you can be a technician if the other fighter is back pedaling, but we all know that GGG won't back down. So that's a wrong strategy, what he really needs to do is more movement and don't get caught in the corner, otherwise it will be over.

Fully contrary if we do try to look at their fighting style.

Style makes fight, they are two sluggers coming to fight, but Golovkin has a big edge here he has fought a lot of great fighters, and he has a big experiences being the former champion, and he has a big motivation coming to the fight, if he losses this fight he has two losses in a row and that is not good for his career, he has a lot to lose than to gain from this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: ene1980 on October 03, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
Golovkin also has 3" reach advantage, but I am not sure it will be so easy fight for him.
Maybe he is not so motivated because of Canelo situation
The boxing judges are the most corrupted and there is nothing you can do about it, Gennady Golovkin won the fight both times in many boxing fans and those who scored the fight independently. Gennady Golovkin will be more motivated and the only way to get rid of these corrupted judges is to win by knock out and i am sure he will be doing that exactly in all his big fights in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Theb on October 03, 2019, 05:45:08 PM
Interesting that this fight happened since ever since Canelo turned down a fight in September the other choices are Callum Smith, Demetrius Andrade, and Billy Joe Saunders to fight him next. Golovkin really wants to fight the best boxer out there and I think Sergiy Derevyanchenko is a huge step up compared to Steve Rolls. This will be a huge fight for Golovkin and after this I think Canelo cannot avoid another rematch with him especially if his sponsor, DAZN, already agreed to fight with him. This would be too obvious that Canelo is avoiding him and he doesn't want to prove anything more.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Baofeng on October 03, 2019, 11:42:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRll_Z9RMRw - GGG vs. Derevyanchenko Final Press Conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtCw4hMxkFA - HIGHLIGHTS | GGG vs. Derevyanchenko Public Workout

Business wise, Dereyvanchenko was offered a lot of money to fight GGG as compare to facing Canelo next. That's why Canelo chooses to go up and fight Kovalev.

I don't know but I feel that this is going to be a good fight. Of course GGG is the favorite but perhaps Dereyvanchenko will show and make this fight competitive and entertaining.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on October 03, 2019, 11:59:50 PM
I took this from Boxrec for us to see the difference between the two fighters, I thought age will be a problem but looking at the age of  Dereyvanchenko and Golovkin, difference is just 4 years, not much difference. But looking at the number of fights that Golovkin have which is 41 versus 14 for Dereyvanchenko, I think this will make the difference. Golovkin fought a lot of fighters already when Dereyvanchenko debuted in Boxing (2014), Golovkin already fought 29 fighters.

https://i.imgur.com/FyfbWen.jpg


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Ukrainian - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: mich on October 04, 2019, 04:51:21 AM
I think 'GGG' Golovkin will have too much skills for this Ukrainian and will win the decision

Trainer: I Really Think GGG Could Fight Until He's 75, I'm Serious

Jonathon Banks, the new trainer of Gennady Golovkin, believes his boxer can continue fighting hard for a very long time.

https://www.boxingscene.com/trainer-i-really-think-ggg-fight-hes-75-im-serious--143081


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Kasabus on October 04, 2019, 01:07:06 PM
I will be with the more experience and more exciting fighter to watch, I will go with GGG.
I just check the line in sportsbet now and I'm just getting 1.22 for GGG to win this match, which I think it does not give me much value.
Hopefully there will be more odds they will offer or in other sportsbook so we can choose and get at least 1.80 up for this fight.


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Post by: Botnake on October 04, 2019, 01:26:14 PM
I will be with the more experience and more exciting fighter to watch, I will go with GGG.
I just check the line in sportsbet now and I'm just getting 1.22 for GGG to win this match, which I think it does not give me much value.
Hopefully there will be more odds they will offer or in other sportsbook so we can choose and get at least 1.80 up for this fight.

There's also no other exciting lines offered in other reputable sports book - https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches
I think everyone of us here are rooting for GGG to win the fight, but if upset would happen, 4.351 multiplier is very sweet for Dereyvanchenko .

Anyway, I'll just continue to observe at the final line, since the fight is scheduled this coming 6 in our timezone, so probably I'll pull the trigger at that date.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 04, 2019, 02:16:16 PM
Many of them has been choosing GGG as their bet and obviously that is right. This time I will not against the majority odds because that was obvious GGG will win against his opponent. Both of them may be good fighter's but there is only one who has advantage between two of them. All were in favor of him, the fighting skills was too old and had more wins compared to Dereyvanchenko. I was placing my bet yesterday on sportsbet.io and I guess it looks like I will win on this match.


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Post by: Baofeng on October 05, 2019, 08:11:41 AM
This is what some experts prediction on the fight.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/ggg-vs-derevyanchenko-industry-experts-predictions-wins-middleweight-title-fight/uaqjfyzigdht1vl8ox4q28n9n

Majority of them picks GGG by either KO or decision. I think this is also the sentiments here, it's just what round will GGG KO Dereyvanchenko.


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Post by: bisdak40 on October 05, 2019, 08:28:33 AM
This is what some experts prediction on the fight.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/ggg-vs-derevyanchenko-industry-experts-predictions-wins-middleweight-title-fight/uaqjfyzigdht1vl8ox4q28n9n

Majority of them picks GGG by either KO or decision. I think this is also the sentiments here, it's just what round will GGG KO Dereyvanchenko.

With Dereyvanchenko's lack of experience as we can see in his fight records, it is easy to say for us ordinary fans that GGG will dominate him and win the fight. With what most of the boxing analyst said that this fight will end via knock-out, i would go with them.

GGG knockout 2.15 odds is very temping and i would push the button for that.


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Post by: judeafante on October 05, 2019, 09:40:39 AM
This is what some experts prediction on the fight.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/ggg-vs-derevyanchenko-industry-experts-predictions-wins-middleweight-title-fight/uaqjfyzigdht1vl8ox4q28n9n

Majority of them picks GGG by either KO or decision. I think this is also the sentiments here, it's just what round will GGG KO Dereyvanchenko.
He really is the top favorite but I would like to play a devil's advocate here, what if Dereyvanchenko wins the match then we have a contest for the upset of the year, boxing afficionados back then treat the Joshua Ruiz match as an easy and tune fight for Joshua against Deontay Wilder of course we all know hoe Ruiz dominate Joshua and this is now considered as the upset of the year.


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Post by: plr on October 05, 2019, 09:43:01 AM
I watched his fight against Jacobs and this is not an easy fight for Golovkin the guy has a strong chin and body and he's defense is his offense, Golovkin is a favorite but not to the extent that he will win easily, but he must-wins here or he will have a hard time getting a big mega-fight next time.


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Post by: Darker45 on October 05, 2019, 09:47:22 AM
I still consider Golovkin's record as spotless regardless of his loss to Canelo. It was a very close fight that could actually be awarded to any of the fighters. I am 100% for GGG in this fight even though I haven't even watched a single Dereyvanchenko match. This is not an informed prediction of course. Neither is this a betting recommendation. This man, Dereyvanchenko, after all is a late comer as a pro but he is a great amateur fighter before that. His record seems to show a Lomachenko similarity, which happens to be his countryman.

If GGG wants to recapture the world's center stage, he will show to the boxing fans that he's still got it and he can still put an opponent to sleep. In his recent fights, GGG has shown that he is vulnerable after all, perhaps much of it is due to aging. And since I believe that this fight is only a stepping stone for him, he really needs to come out a convincing winner.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: eaLiTy on October 05, 2019, 10:19:53 AM
I still consider Golovkin's record as spotless regardless of his loss to Canelo. It was a very close fight that could actually be awarded to any of the fighters
I am also a die hard fan of good boxing and i consider Gennady Golovkin as one of the best boxers in history and both the fights against Canelo Álvarez was really close and i scored the fight for Gennady Golovkin but that is how i view the fight and in the comfort of my home. The judges in boxing usually comes up with controversial decisions and i am going with GGG against Sergiy Derevyanchenko.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: freedomgo on October 05, 2019, 11:32:37 AM
I still consider Golovkin's record as spotless regardless of his loss to Canelo. It was a very close fight that could actually be awarded to any of the fighters
I am also a die hard fan of good boxing and i consider Gennady Golovkin as one of the best boxers in history and both the fights against Canelo Álvarez was really close and i scored the fight for Gennady Golovkin but that is how i view the fight and in the comfort of my home. The judges in boxing usually comes up with controversial decisions and i am going with GGG against Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
That's why there's a judges because they are the one whom are trusted to score the fight.
Of course, there are results that we don't agree, however, we are just watchers and we are not expert on that field, the judges are and we can only judge our own but we can never change the result.

Golovkin has a lot of fans in the boxing world, so if this fight will result to a decision and he lost, of course people will think that he got rob.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Mahanton on October 05, 2019, 02:28:37 PM
I still consider Golovkin's record as spotless regardless of his loss to Canelo. It was a very close fight that could actually be awarded to any of the fighters
I am also a die hard fan of good boxing and i consider Gennady Golovkin as one of the best boxers in history and both the fights against Canelo Álvarez was really close and i scored the fight for Gennady Golovkin but that is how i view the fight and in the comfort of my home. The judges in boxing usually comes up with controversial decisions and i am going with GGG against Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
That's why there's a judges because they are the one whom are trusted to score the fight.
Of course, there are results that we don't agree, however, we are just watchers and we are not expert on that field, the judges are and we can only judge our own but we can never change the result.

Golovkin has a lot of fans in the boxing world, so if this fight will result to a decision and he lost, of course people will think that he got rob.
Actually not a surprising thing about those controversial decisions made by these judges not only on Boxing but on other sports as well.
We know on how Golovkin fight and that Canelo bout does really come out with questionable decisions and as said their decision is final and
lastly Boxing is also a business thats why we can really witness shady decisions anytime that we do least expect.

Stats wise then its clear on who would own this upcoming title fight.


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Post by: Terence Crawford on October 05, 2019, 08:29:43 PM
Sportsbet.io offering Winning Method and Exact Round Odds.
I dont see any other way to bet this fight with GGG now 1.15
GGG by ko 1.94 can be Price Boosted to 1.99 which sounds like my best bet.

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Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Saisher on October 06, 2019, 04:08:34 AM
I still consider Golovkin's record as spotless regardless of his loss to Canelo. It was a very close fight that could actually be awarded to any of the fighters
I am also a die hard fan of good boxing and i consider Gennady Golovkin as one of the best boxers in history and both the fights against Canelo Álvarez was really close and i scored the fight for Gennady Golovkin but that is how i view the fight and in the comfort of my home. The judges in boxing usually comes up with controversial decisions and i am going with GGG against Sergiy Derevyanchenko.
That's why there's a judges because they are the one whom are trusted to score the fight.
Of course, there are results that we don't agree, however, we are just watchers and we are not expert on that field, the judges are and we can only judge our own but we can never change the result.

Golovkin has a lot of fans in the boxing world, so if this fight will result to a decision and he lost, of course people will think that he got rob.
Actually not a surprising thing about those controversial decisions made by these judges not only on Boxing but on other sports as well.
We know on how Golovkin fight and that Canelo bout does really come out with questionable decisions and as said their decision is final and
lastly Boxing is also a business thats why we can really witness shady decisions anytime that we do least expect.

Stats wise then its clear on who would own this upcoming title fight.
Golovkin should make sure that the fight will not end in a decision, lately, there have so many bad officiating, the Pacquiao Thurman should be unanimous for Pacquiao and the Spence and Porter should be draw according to experts, the worst thing that can happen to Golovkin is to make this fight close and put the outcome to the judges.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: peter0425 on October 06, 2019, 05:14:28 AM
I'm not familiar with Dereyvanchenko so I checked his boxing record,

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/691996

He looks solid but when we step up the competition against Daniel Jacobs, he lost. So for me, he doesn't have that elite level status as compare to triple G here.

So I would definitely say that Triple G can easily win this fight and it could end in a knockout. As far as age goes, he still got it even though we know that he won the first fight against Canelo and the second was a close one that can go either way.
Checking both records and watching some of their fights in past I can see that these fighters are “Matched” in many cases they have both weaknesses that needs to be targeted by each other’s to take advantages


How I wish that Canelo still considered the fight ,because I know his more enough for this bout and not Dereyvanchenko

edit;
my Bad for not reading thoroughly the thread
and i thought this was just coming

anyway i have watched the highlight now


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: uray on October 06, 2019, 05:23:35 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: virasog on October 06, 2019, 05:29:46 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

The results were pretty much as expected. Derevyanchenko was an underdog and was never favorite. However it was still a close game and Gennadiy Golovkin had to work hard to win the title. All the boxing matches I have seen this, I can safely say that this was fight of the year.


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Post by: AliMan on October 06, 2019, 06:52:44 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

I am excited to watch them fighting for IBF belt, and when it's done outside US we don't know how the decision went though. Unlike when it's held at MGM grand, biggest promotion is very promising and yet most of the fights reach on this place is highly paid boxers.


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Post by: Baofeng on October 06, 2019, 07:27:38 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.

I don't think Canelo will fight GGG here with this performance, it looks like GGG is old based on this fight.


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Post by: freedomgo on October 06, 2019, 08:23:17 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.

I don't think Canelo will fight GGG here with this performance, it looks like GGG is old based on this fight.

People are expecting GGG to knock out his opponent based on the betting odds, but he wasn't able to do it, maybe he loss his power already or his opponent is just good. Great odds for GGG to win in decision, hopefully in his next fight we will be able to see a knock out win from him.

Can't blame people thinking that he would win by knock out because his record is impressive.
Don't know if this is updated, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Golovkin.. but based on that, he has 35 KO from 40 wins.


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Post by: JohnBitCo on October 06, 2019, 08:29:50 AM
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Post by: btc_angela on October 06, 2019, 08:38:57 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.

I don't think Canelo will fight GGG here with this performance, it looks like GGG is old based on this fight.

A lot of close rounds that can go either direction. Dere was cut on the second round, I don't know if it's from a punch or head butt. And from then on, he try to bully Golovkin and it seems that Golovkin has difficulty finding his range in this fight. He will just throw 1-2 combination and nothing after that. That's why those close rounds could go to Golovkin because for all we know he is the favourite here.


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Post by: Sadlife on October 06, 2019, 09:03:33 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.

I don't think Canelo will fight GGG here with this performance, it looks like GGG is old based on this fight.
did not have a chance to watch live but as i checked the videos it seems that its almost draw{just for my own observation because the fight is really tight and the only need of each boxer is to knockdown their opponent to be assured of winning.this is a though decision from the judges as for sure many issues will comes out from this almost controversial decisions


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Saisher on October 06, 2019, 09:16:41 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.

I don't think Canelo will fight GGG here with this performance, it looks like GGG is old based on this fight.
did not have a chance to watch live but as i checked the videos it seems that its almost draw{just for my own observation because the fight is really tight and the only need of each boxer is to knockdown their opponent to be assured of winning.this is a though decision from the judges as for sure many issues will comes out from this almost controversial decisions

Golovkin had this one it's a controversial fight really, I thought Dereyvanchenko is winning because he is the more aggressive fighter, and if anyone wins here it's should be a draw, it's a very close fight to call, Golovkin seems a little rusty on this fight, timing is still good but stamina is questionable. a lot of time Dereyvanchenko had him with a lot of punch.


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Post by: coin-investor on October 06, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
Golovkin is  the winner of this fight which is surprising via unanimous decision it should be split decision anyway the scorecard is very close, Golovkin show rustiness in this fight he was always caught by Dereyvanchenko, so many times, it's a candidate for the fight of the year but I doubt it will get the title, I still go fo the Thurman Pacquiao match, so we will not wait of the Joshua Ruiz fight.


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Post by: Jating on October 06, 2019, 11:48:38 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.
I also have a similar score with Dereyvanchenko on top. I gave Dereyvanchenko three out of the four last rounds and and five out of the first seven rounds.

You can see all the stats here, https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-vs-derevyanchenko-compubox-punch-stats--143145. It was really very close in my opinion and I do think that Dereyvanchenko deserves a rematch here.


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Post by: notblox1 on October 06, 2019, 12:10:58 PM
Well, not a big surprise with the final outcome and win by Golovkin.
I did not watch the fight, but I saw final result and rounds scoring.

Controversy after his fight as many people thinking it was his worst performance so far
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/10043505/ggg-derevyanchenko-live-results-golovkin-win-reaction/


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Vispilio on October 06, 2019, 09:44:39 PM
Win by points for the favorite under the circumstances should be considered business as usual in boxing.

I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.


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Post by: rodel caling on October 06, 2019, 10:00:22 PM
Win by points for the favorite under the circumstances should be considered business as usual in boxing.

I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.


That is right mate because the fight is very closer both fighter want to got win at that games but only one decision and only need to get win and for sure the decision of the judge is very hard but need to decides and from the point system and technicality for both boxer.


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Post by: eaLiTy on October 06, 2019, 10:10:28 PM
I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.
I was a good fight and there was no controversy, the opposition might feel that they won the fight because he is not judging the fight, when he goes home and watch the fight and then give points as a neutral person then he will understand that it was a fair decision. Majority of the users expected a knockout but it looks like age is also playing with Gennady Golovkin and hopefully we will see the trilogy with Canelo Álvarez.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: bisdak40 on October 07, 2019, 08:22:18 AM
But let’s see since we still have plenty of Time to think on which to bet
Gennady Golovkin won the fight by unanimous decision and captured the middle weight vacant IBF belt again.
The fight was really good and both were trading shots and now the fight i want to see is the trilogy fight against Canelo Alvarez and that too outside US.

It was indeed a close fight, I thought GGG will lost this one as Dereyvanchenko went toe to toe with GGG and wasn't afraid. It was a war but in the end GGG edge him in a UD. But to be fair I had it Dereyvanchenko 115-112. The judges scorecards are: 114-113, 115-112 and 115-112, all for GGG.

I don't think Canelo will fight GGG here with this performance, it looks like GGG is old based on this fight.

Another case of overconfidence or something happen to GGG week before the fight? Eddie Hearn claimed the GGG was sick the week leading to the fight.

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"I thought Derevyanchenko was unbelievable. He won't say it, but Gennady has been ill basically all week, and it was a real struggle for him, and he kept it completely quiet.

But in the post fight interview, GGG is qouted:

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"Right now it's a bad day for me, it's a huge day for Sergiy, his team. This is huge experience for me. Right now I know what I need exactly. I lost a little bit of focus."

But one is for sure,  Derevyanchenko showed a lot of heart on that fight, his fight record showed otherwise. He seems to me an experienced boxer.








Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Ranly123 on October 07, 2019, 10:25:10 AM
I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.
I was a good fight and there was no controversy, the opposition might feel that they won the fight because he is not judging the fight, when he goes home and watch the fight and then give points as a neutral person then he will understand that it was a fair decision. Majority of the users expected a knockout but it looks like age is also playing with Gennady Golovkin and hopefully we will see the trilogy with Canelo Álvarez.

The fight was close and dereyvanchenko think he won the fight, but for the judges perspective it's different. Yes, he put up a hell of boxing out there and deserve to think he won the fight. For me, I will give Golovkin this fight since he hits harder than his counterpart.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: btc_angela on October 07, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.
I was a good fight and there was no controversy, the opposition might feel that they won the fight because he is not judging the fight, when he goes home and watch the fight and then give points as a neutral person then he will understand that it was a fair decision. Majority of the users expected a knockout but it looks like age is also playing with Gennady Golovkin and hopefully we will see the trilogy with Canelo Álvarez.

The fight was close and dereyvanchenko think he won the fight, but for the judges perspective it's different. Yes, he put up a hell of boxing out there and deserve to think he won the fight. For me, I will give Golovkin this fight since he hits harder than his counterpart.

It's not who hits the hardest, it's who can stand up and fight more. And I'm sure fans of Dereyvanchenko thinks their guy won because he really stood and try to fight with one of the dangerous fighter out there. But he still fall short of it and I think Golovkin won this fight but it was really really close. Just like the Porter and Spence fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 07, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
Golovkin is  the winner of this fight which is surprising via unanimous decision it should be split decision anyway the scorecard is very close, Golovkin show rustiness in this fight he was always caught by Dereyvanchenko, so many times, it's a candidate for the fight of the year but I doubt it will get the title, I still go fo the Thurman Pacquiao match, so we will not wait of the Joshua Ruiz fight.
I do really see this to be controversial.When it comes to point i do mostly give this one out to Dereyvanchenko but as we all know that Boxing is business and all shady stuffs can happen from time to time and this is well anticipated if we do try to look closely on the fight i would really say that Dereyvanchenko got this one basing on punches being thrown out with successful hits.Do this one would have a rematch? Pretty boring fight actually specially into its conclusion.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: milewilda on October 07, 2019, 01:49:08 PM
Golovkin is  the winner of this fight which is surprising via unanimous decision it should be split decision anyway the scorecard is very close, Golovkin show rustiness in this fight he was always caught by Dereyvanchenko, so many times, it's a candidate for the fight of the year but I doubt it will get the title, I still go fo the Thurman Pacquiao match, so we will not wait of the Joshua Ruiz fight.
I do really see this to be controversial.When it comes to point i do mostly give this one out to Dereyvanchenko but as we all know that Boxing is business and all shady stuffs can happen from time to time and this is well anticipated if we do try to look closely on the fight i would really say that Dereyvanchenko got this one basing on punches being thrown out with successful hits.Do this one would have a rematch? Pretty boring fight actually specially into its conclusion.

Try to look on the scores https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-derevyanchenko-scorecard-analysis--143162

'as judges Frank Lombardi (Connecticut) and Eric Marlinski (Buffalo, New York) each scored the contest 115-112, while Kevin Morgan (New York) was one round closer with his 114-113 card.'

Scores arent really that close enough and talks about stamina then its quite questionable for GGG.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: South Park on October 07, 2019, 03:00:59 PM
I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.
I was a good fight and there was no controversy, the opposition might feel that they won the fight because he is not judging the fight, when he goes home and watch the fight and then give points as a neutral person then he will understand that it was a fair decision. Majority of the users expected a knockout but it looks like age is also playing with Gennady Golovkin and hopefully we will see the trilogy with Canelo Álvarez.
GGG won the fight but his performance especially during the last rounds left a lot to be desired, at the beginning of the fight it seemed like he would end it quickly, he got a knockdown and his opponent received a cut very early on the match, but as the rounds passed his performance diminished, he had problems dealing with the aggressiveness of Dereyvanchenko and to me it seems as if GGG is finally showing his age, but whatever the case I want to see if Canelo will accept to fight GGG again since the last fight was really controversial.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 07, 2019, 04:00:13 PM
I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.
I was a good fight and there was no controversy, the opposition might feel that they won the fight because he is not judging the fight, when he goes home and watch the fight and then give points as a neutral person then he will understand that it was a fair decision. Majority of the users expected a knockout but it looks like age is also playing with Gennady Golovkin and hopefully we will see the trilogy with Canelo Álvarez.
GGG won the fight but his performance especially during the last rounds left a lot to be desired, at the beginning of the fight it seemed like he would end it quickly, he got a knockdown and his opponent received a cut very early on the match, but as the rounds passed his performance diminished, he had problems dealing with the aggressiveness Dereyvanchenko and to me it seems as if GGG is finally showing his age, but whatever the case I want to see if Canelo will accept to fight GGG again since the last fight was really controversial.

Well that's what the boxing community is seeing on GGG performance, it looks like age is catching up with him already that's why his performance is somewhat questionable at this point.

Or just maybe Dereyvanchenko is one hell of a tough fighter, he was able to hit GGG with solid punches that might slow him down a bit. Or maybe GGG overtrained, there's a lot of reasons why GGG was not able to ko Dereyvanchenko as everyone has expected.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Golovkin vs. Dereyvanchenko - Vacant IBO Title
Post by: GatotKaca on October 07, 2019, 04:23:45 PM
I don't think Dereyvanchenko accomplished anything significant to dub this fight "controversial" in anyway, you could say 2 evenly matched fighters with Golovkin showing more ease and experience in some rounds, all in all a quite underwhelming fight.
I was a good fight and there was no controversy, the opposition might feel that they won the fight because he is not judging the fight, when he goes home and watch the fight and then give points as a neutral person then he will understand that it was a fair decision. Majority of the users expected a knockout but it looks like age is also playing with Gennady Golovkin and hopefully we will see the trilogy with Canelo Álvarez.
GGG won the fight but his performance especially during the last rounds left a lot to be desired, at the beginning of the fight it seemed like he would end it quickly, he got a knockdown and his opponent received a cut very early on the match, but as the rounds passed his performance diminished, he had problems dealing with the aggressiveness Dereyvanchenko and to me it seems as if GGG is finally showing his age, but whatever the case I want to see if Canelo will accept to fight GGG again since the last fight was really controversial.
at the age of 37 he is now fighting a younger and more aggressive fighter not easy. The unseeded Derevyanchenko was endlessly brave resistance. Several times the hook broke through the defense in Golovkin's ribs. I think if the rematch against Canelo it really happens GGG will lose again.