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Title: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: gamekatana on October 19, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
GameKatana
Visit: https://gamekatana.com

Take your profits before the crash.

Faucet
You can also test our system with our faucet.

Provability Fair
We use a provably fair system to prove honest games.
Check our faq page for more information: https://gamekatana.com/faq


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Mahanton on October 19, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cvdl5kI.png Are you serious with this kind of design?

Next, how can i trust you up with my funds?
Next, how can we verify if the other players arent part of the house?
Next, how to verify to those who won?


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 19, 2019, 03:08:13 PM
I have been tried to create a deposit address, but its took long time and I had wait couple of minutes but still it was on loading. OP is website is under construction? I don't know what was exact reason that I won't create deposit address. On the other hand you should add more info on your website l, its looking like a blank page. Also you should be more creative to create ANN thread, just buy copper membership and you will able to create good design. It's also most important to attract gamblers. Even check deposit also just loading...........


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Bitinity on October 19, 2019, 03:54:01 PM
There is no serious effort from the owner of this new site gamekatana to attract users to play on his site. Insecure website, non provably fair game while it is pvp based game, bad design of the website as well as bad ANN thread. Owner do not even introduce about what kind of game is this, how does it works in more details etc. No one will try this site obviously. 


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: gamekatana on October 19, 2019, 04:56:19 PM
I have been tried to create a deposit address, but its took long time and I had wait couple of minutes but still it was on loading. OP is website is under construction? I don't know what was exact reason that I won't create deposit address. On the other hand you should add more info on your website l, its looking like a blank page. Also you should be more creative to create ANN thread, just buy copper membership and you will able to create good design. It's also most important to attract gamblers. Even check deposit also just loading...........
Sorry for the problem. I got some messages about the payment check system. So we needed a short maintenance to automate it.
Now after the deposit our system should approve it automatically.
You now should be able to generate your deposit address.
Thank you for care.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Blowon on October 19, 2019, 05:06:49 PM
You project not yet ready at all. You still have more development to make it real. At leats you should have an F.A.Q to give an explain; how it's works, about who you are, how we trust you, how about provably fair ... etc.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: pakhitheboss on October 19, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
I have been tried to create a deposit address, but its took long time and I had wait couple of minutes but still it was on loading. OP is website is under construction? I don't know what was exact reason that I won't create deposit address. On the other hand you should add more info on your website l, its looking like a blank page. Also you should be more creative to create ANN thread, just buy copper membership and you will able to create good design. It's also most important to attract gamblers. Even check deposit also just loading...........

For me creating a deposite address was in a second but, I was not happy with the layout and the less professional design of the website. OP your team has to improve it. Since, there is no registration required my primary concer will be my opponent player as it can be a bot that I might be playing with.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: gamekatana on October 19, 2019, 06:30:49 PM
I have been tried to create a deposit address, but its took long time and I had wait couple of minutes but still it was on loading. OP is website is under construction? I don't know what was exact reason that I won't create deposit address. On the other hand you should add more info on your website l, its looking like a blank page. Also you should be more creative to create ANN thread, just buy copper membership and you will able to create good design. It's also most important to attract gamblers. Even check deposit also just loading...........

For me creating a deposite address was in a second but, I was not happy with the layout and the less professional design of the website. OP your team has to improve it. Since, there is no registration required my primary concer will be my opponent player as it can be a bot that I might be playing with.
Firstly, thank you for your informative feedback.
Since nobody didn't like the design, i informed my developers for a new design.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: kryptqnick on October 19, 2019, 07:18:06 PM
I have been tried to create a deposit address, but its took long time and I had wait couple of minutes but still it was on loading. OP is website is under construction? I don't know what was exact reason that I won't create deposit address. On the other hand you should add more info on your website l, its looking like a blank page. Also you should be more creative to create ANN thread, just buy copper membership and you will able to create good design. It's also most important to attract gamblers. Even check deposit also just loading...........

For me creating a deposite address was in a second but, I was not happy with the layout and the less professional design of the website. OP your team has to improve it. Since, there is no registration required my primary concer will be my opponent player as it can be a bot that I might be playing with.
Firstly, thank you for your informative feedback.
Since nobody didn't like the design, i informed my developers for a new design.
It's not about the colors, fonts or something like that. It's just that a website cannot contain one big image and one small box in the left corner! It looks like something created by a person who just started learning web-design. Where's the logo, information, animation, cookie policy, terms of service, webpages, navigation, secure connection...? There are so many things it lacks that it's even hard to call it a website. If you want people to get interested, you should at least offer such basic things on your website. Good luck!


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: passwordnow on October 19, 2019, 08:01:46 PM
Your website is very plain. It's plain in a way that why it only shows "create match" on the very first page?
Check the website guys and see what I'm talking about that "very plain". This website has to be developed and how could you get trust from gamblers if your website isn't even made well.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: veleten on October 19, 2019, 08:35:20 PM
I'm sorry OP but this doesn't even look like a site I'd visit , not even talking about trusting my money to
plain and unprofessional are the mildest adjectives that come to mind
it doesn't have a security certificate , the PVP games are tricky to implement a good and reliable provably fair system
but you seem to not bother with it altogether
minimal coding skills and a post on a forum is not enough to start a business , this looks more like a student's essay rather than a book if you get the analogy


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Heat.GG on October 19, 2019, 09:41:20 PM
Few pointers that are purely objective,
If you're doing PvP you need a viable provably fair system in place with an external source of random.
This can be accomplished by drawing the winners either from random.org tickets, or unmined bitcoin / a different blockchains block.
You'd have to show proof of using X random source when a player joins, i.e creating a random.org ticket beforehand or using a chosen unmined block's hash to draw the result.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: gamekatana on October 19, 2019, 10:55:52 PM
We switched a new design and will keep going to improve it.
I am aware our site has some weak points but we are developing it with your feedbacks.
And about the provably fair: We have a provably fair system i didn't say anything about it in the topic, so you probably assumed we don't.
I will now edit the post and explain how it works.
Thank you.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Heat.GG on October 19, 2019, 11:36:39 PM
I've gone ahead and read into your provably fair methodology.
There's a problem here which immediately stands out to me, you're not using an external source of randomness to pull the results.
Ontop of an external random source, it needs to be unknown untill both players are in the match as well, and verifiable beforehand that it wasn't changed.
Like I said earlier this can be accomplished by either using random.org's ticket API OR using something such as the hash of an unmined bitcoin block.
The reason you generating a random winner and hashing it with a salt beforehand and displaying the hash to the user, isn't random, is due to the fact the house could know who wins in this case.
Ontop of the house being able to know who the winner or loser is, they can purposely make games under their own accounts as well in which are wins for them and still seem "provably fair"


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: TimeTeller on October 19, 2019, 11:38:56 PM
I'm sorry OP but this doesn't even look like a site I'd visit , not even talking about trusting my money to
plain and unprofessional are the mildest adjectives that come to mind
it doesn't have a security certificate , the PVP games are tricky to implement a good and reliable provably fair system
but you seem to not bother with it altogether
minimal coding skills and a post on a forum is not enough to start a business , this looks more like a student's essay rather than a book if you get the analogy

I do agree with you. You can't feel any professionalism when you visit the site.
If there is no trust, then who would deposit blindly to their site?
PVP games are already very hard to attract players.
And with their site's interface, I don't think they will attract high-rollers here.

I've gone ahead and read into your provably fair methodology.
There's a problem here which immediately stands out to me, you're not using an external source of randomness to pull the results.
Ontop of an external random source, it needs to be unknown untill both players are in the match as well, and verifiable beforehand that it wasn't changed.
Like I said earlier this can be accomplished by either using random.org's ticket API OR using something such as the hash of an unmined bitcoin block.
The reason you generating a random winner and hashing it with a salt beforehand and displaying the hash to the user, isn't random, is due to the fact the house could know who wins in this case.
Ontop of the house being able to know who the winner or loser is, they can purposely make games under their own accounts as well in which are wins for them and still seem "provably fair"


This is very disturbing as provable fairness is very vital aspect in gambling site.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: abel1337 on October 20, 2019, 12:09:11 AM
There are many issues about his new unfinished gambling site. I don't know why OP release this too soon and the concept with having no account is the one I really don't suggest with a gambling site, There are many factors a gambler can lose his credits if he plays as a guest/no account like this gambling site who don't even have an option to create one.

If I'm in a gambler point of view, I won't even be bothered not to play in this gambling site especially that this gambling site has too many issues, There are better gambling sites out there. Why would I even play on this  ???

I recommend OP to finish first his gambling site before introducing it into community for more positive feedbacks. Especially you need an edge to fight those good established gambling sites.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: acroman08 on October 20, 2019, 01:02:48 AM
very unprofessional, quickly put with no efforts made to make the site appealing. it's the typical site that a scammer would make(not that I'm saying you are).
if you want to attract gamblers you'll have to do better than this OP, or gamblers will just ignore your site.
https://i.imgur.com/76EYbFk.jpg


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: dothebeats on October 20, 2019, 04:05:33 AM
On a serious note: once I landed on the page, I don’t know where I’m heading to afterwards. UI seems ti be very unintuitive with little to no effort in making it easier for the newbs to understand. I understand the PvP aspect of gambling, but with the site design it feels as if I’m thrown into some kind of a void. It definitely needs a lot more effort and tweaking to do aesthetic-wise and possibly the way you generate addresses for deposits.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: virasog on October 20, 2019, 04:32:57 AM
GameKatana
Visit: http://gamekatana.com
We just launched our player to player matching platform.

Your site is too much unprofessional and I am not confident spending my money on this site. You should do two things instantly. First make a friendly layout of your site and secondly, create a login option in your site. Without login, it will be difficult to track and contact the support in case any mishap happens with our deposits.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: panjul07 on October 20, 2019, 05:47:45 AM
Are you in a hurry to launch your gambling site? I just checked the site but it looks very bad for first impression, it looks like a website designed by non experienced designer/developer.
You are going to provide pvp based game but first impression is not good at all, how could you announce it while it does look like unfinished project? My suggestion, take the site down first while you are working on it until everything is ready and good to be re-announced. Otherwise, most people here wont be back to visit your site if they see how bad your site is at the moment.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: CryptTech on October 20, 2019, 05:27:00 PM
Lack of information about this game


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: kryptqnick on October 20, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
We switched a new design and will keep going to improve it.
Come on, it starts looking like you are trolling people. As I said, it's not about the colors you picked or something like that yet. It's about some very basic things any online gambling website should have. Your website looks very raw like it was created in a rush by a bunch of people who are not very good at it and without much information to share with people. It's small, it lacks important information which I've mentioned in my previous post, and it's buggy (for instance, whatever happens when I push the sign that looks like ≡ is not supposed to happen. If you want people to take you seriously and respect you, you should show some respect and offer something that looks like a product as well. Good luck!


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 20, 2019, 08:49:26 PM
We switched a new design and will keep going to improve it.
Come on, it starts looking like you are trolling people. As I said, it's not about the colors you picked or something like that yet. It's about some very basic things any online gambling website should have. Your website looks very raw like it was created in a rush by a bunch of people who are not very good at it and without much information to share with people. It's small, it lacks important information which I've mentioned in my previous post, and it's buggy (for instance, whatever happens when I push the sign that looks like ≡ is not supposed to happen. If you want people to take you seriously and respect you, you should show some respect and offer something that looks like a product as well. Good luck!


I don't think this gambling site will ever go far. With how things are going here, he will not attract serious players. Maybe some will try his site, but not really to play using high amount. He needs to change his approach quick, otherwise, his site will be ignored.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Lanatsa on October 20, 2019, 09:27:52 PM
We switched a new design and will keep going to improve it.
Come on, it starts looking like you are trolling people. As I said, it's not about the colors you picked or something like that yet. It's about some very basic things any online gambling website should have. Your website looks very raw like it was created in a rush by a bunch of people who are not very good at it and without much information to share with people. It's small, it lacks important information which I've mentioned in my previous post, and it's buggy (for instance, whatever happens when I push the sign that looks like ≡ is not supposed to happen. If you want people to take you seriously and respect you, you should show some respect and offer something that looks like a product as well. Good luck!


I don't think this gambling site will ever go far. With how things are going here, he will not attract serious players. Maybe some will try his site, but not really to play using high amount. He needs to change his approach quick, otherwise, his site will be ignored.
Even to those fully working new gambling sites that do had some average designs doesn't even get attraction.How much more for this one?
It looks like a school project which that menu button doesn't even work same as mentioned above and now he expect for people to say positive things?
He would rather get heavy criticism on here rather than praise and heck I don't even see for this one to be a gambling site.LOL


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: bering on October 21, 2019, 02:02:54 AM
In my view it's not a gambling site because the sites was too lack of information and the design is too simple even when i visiting that site there was annoying ads available and i think developed and improve again your site to get the better design and that's one of way to attract people playing at your site because if you didn't do that then people will only visiting your site without playing and don't rush to launch it


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: jazmuzika217 on October 21, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
I think it is so good and have too much adventure and action game. Because from the word katana it is like an battle equiptment that I am sure that many gamer that want adventure and action. And like other old style of games it is also a multi player that of gaming which is already tested because many multi player game dominate the world gaming entertainment like dota and counterstrike and now with a twist of gambling and this will be more exciting.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: mitchr4 on October 21, 2019, 03:09:15 PM
I think it is so good and have too much adventure and action game. Because from the word katana it is like an battle equiptment that I am sure that many gamer that want adventure and action. And like other old style of games it is also a multi player that of gaming which is already tested because many multi player game dominate the world gaming entertainment like dota and counterstrike and now with a twist of gambling and this will be more exciting.
Indeed it is good but have you seen the site? and how it works?
I do not know exactly how this site works but what I get is this site leads to fraud. Because we only make deposits and the computer will choose the winner in other words they can manipulate the winner. Also the lack of information about this game makes me even more suspicious. I think people should avoid this because it doesn't look fair.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 21, 2019, 03:24:37 PM
I think it is so good and have too much adventure and action game. Because from the word katana it is like an battle equiptment that I am sure that many gamer that want adventure and action. And like other old style of games it is also a multi player that of gaming which is already tested because many multi player game dominate the world gaming entertainment like dota and counterstrike and now with a twist of gambling and this will be more exciting.
Indeed it is good but have you seen the site? and how it works?
I do not know exactly how this site works but what I get is this site leads to fraud. Because we only make deposits and the computer will choose the winner in other words they can manipulate the winner. Also the lack of information about this game makes me even more suspicious. I think people should avoid this because it doesn't look fair.
^ For me, I did not check because I am afraid of the URL. I saw that it is not a secure link because it is http:// not https:// which is a good sign of secured site. Look's like a strange and unprofessional website. To OP, I think you need to purchase a copper membership account for better appeal of images and look like a professional ANN thread. Nevertheless, OP admitted that no one here likes the design let's wait further announcement maybe there's improvement soon and welcomes to gambling community.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Sirait on October 21, 2019, 04:17:34 PM
Are you in a hurry to launch your gambling site? I just checked the site but it looks very bad for first impression, it looks like a website designed by non experienced designer/developer.
I'm confused by what the OP and the developers of this site are planning so that they create a thread about products that aren't ready to be introduced

^ For me, I did not check because I am afraid of the URL. I saw that it is not a secure link because it is http:// not https:// which is a good sign of secured site. Look's like a strange and unprofessional website.
agree, we must be careful with the sites offered by the OP. This site is like a house that has not been completed


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: gamekatana on October 27, 2019, 05:07:57 PM
We were in maintenance for a couple of days. Now we hided pvp coinflip for a short time and added crash game.
Our site is https now.
Switched to registration system and added a faucet.
We also have a chat now.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: bhabygrim on October 27, 2019, 05:17:41 PM
For the owner of the site , I think there are so many things that you need to consider or upgrade on your site.
You should be aware that there are already plenty of crash game in the industry,
So you should make your site better and you should make it more appealing the way it is now is so plain and boring.
Make some effort to create a proper announcement or introduction and why should we trust your site.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: khaled0111 on October 27, 2019, 06:52:43 PM
Sorry OP, but visiting your website using a smartphone wasn't a pleasent experience. From above replies, it seems that using the desktop version doesn't make a big difference.
You should start by hiring a professional designer.
What's more concerning is the provably fair part. Either you don't know what it means and how it works or you are simply trying to fool us by writing nonsense about hashes and secret keys  ::)


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: gamekatana on October 27, 2019, 10:23:34 PM
Sorry OP, but visiting your website using a smartphone wasn't a pleasent experience. From above replies, it seems that using the desktop version doesn't make a big difference.
You should start by hiring a professional designer.
What's more concerning is the provably fair part. Either you don't know what it means and how it works or you are simply trying to fool us by writing nonsense about hashes and secret keys  ::)
you probably confused because of old game's description, we switched to a new game so recheck it.
If you have a question with that i can answer.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 27, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Sorry OP, but visiting your website using a smartphone wasn't a pleasent experience. From above replies, it seems that using the desktop version doesn't make a big difference.
You should start by hiring a professional designer.
What's more concerning is the provably fair part. Either you don't know what it means and how it works or you are simply trying to fool us by writing nonsense about hashes and secret keys  ::)
you probably confused because of old game's description, we switched to a new game so recheck it.
If you have a question with that i can answer.


hire a professional designer first and maybe you can attract few players here.
but til then i doubt you will ever get players from this current layout.
you will get the impression that if you will deposit, it will be gone soon.. you need to listen from people's suggestions here. else you will never go anywhere.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: Battareus on October 28, 2019, 02:22:37 AM
I've gone ahead and read into your provably fair methodology.
There's a problem here which immediately stands out to me, you're not using an external source of randomness to pull the results.
Ontop of an external random source, it needs to be unknown untill both players are in the match as well, and verifiable beforehand that it wasn't changed.
Like I said earlier this can be accomplished by either using random.org's ticket API OR using something such as the hash of an unmined bitcoin block.
The reason you generating a random winner and hashing it with a salt beforehand and displaying the hash to the user, isn't random, is due to the fact the house could know who wins in this case.
Ontop of the house being able to know who the winner or loser is, they can purposely make games under their own accounts as well in which are wins for them and still seem "provably fair"

It also seems to me that games that claim that their honesty can be verified cannot claim that their house edge is 1%, how can they calculate it if the hashes give a random value independent of the player? At what point does the game determine a win when a bet has already been made or receives a request from the server in advance?


Title: Re: GameKatana - Player To Player Matches
Post by: gamekatana on October 28, 2019, 02:46:14 AM
I've gone ahead and read into your provably fair methodology.
There's a problem here which immediately stands out to me, you're not using an external source of randomness to pull the results.
Ontop of an external random source, it needs to be unknown untill both players are in the match as well, and verifiable beforehand that it wasn't changed.
Like I said earlier this can be accomplished by either using random.org's ticket API OR using something such as the hash of an unmined bitcoin block.
The reason you generating a random winner and hashing it with a salt beforehand and displaying the hash to the user, isn't random, is due to the fact the house could know who wins in this case.
Ontop of the house being able to know who the winner or loser is, they can purposely make games under their own accounts as well in which are wins for them and still seem "provably fair"

It also seems to me that games that claim that their honesty can be verified cannot claim that their house edge is 1%, how can they calculate it if the hashes give a random value independent of the player? At what point does the game determine a win when a bet has already been made or receives a request from the server in advance?
We pick a random crash number, salt it with a secret key and create a hash,then we give it to the players before game start. After you get the secret key, you can verify the crash number. This is a way to verify we don't use a factor to crash it, like player count etc... Because you know the number already picked before the game.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: maxreish on October 28, 2019, 02:58:56 AM
Seems that you are not yet ready to compete with those established gambling sites. If you want to become successful, compare your websites to the ones that are professionally made. You can attract players firstly in your website "appealing features". I understand that you are still new putting up a gambling site, since you posted it here then expect some criticisms and improve it as much as the players will be satisfied.

Like what they have said, hire a professional website designer and programmer. Since the hash indicated at the top when I visited it wasn't aligned correctly making the site not properly fix. Anyway, good step there. Improve it to attract more players.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 28, 2019, 04:59:44 AM
Seems you implemented login/register system lately. But once I was tried that time it wasn't required. Problem was regarding genarate bitcoin address as I said my previous post. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194250.msg52810029#msg52810029) However, it was solved later on just forgot to update on this thread. And try to be more proffesonal, ANN thread and website is very poor. Especially concentrate on your website, because when I entered website its look I am one dark website. Gambling site should more gorgeous. I think you have lack on your team or just you are alone.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: Bitinity on October 28, 2019, 11:32:17 AM
So the game is changed now? As I remember, you created a website for a pvp based gambling game but now it is like a crash game vs the house. Do I miss something here? But still, your site is not attractive at all although you have changed it a bit. No offenses, but dont you have a better designer to make your website looks more attractive?
May I know how serious you are in your gambling project? Frankly speaking, what you have done so far does not show your professionalism as an owner of a gambling site.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: Mahanton on October 28, 2019, 02:58:21 PM
So the game is changed now? As I remember, you created a website for a pvp based gambling game but now it is like a crash game vs the house. Do I miss something here? But still, your site is not attractive at all although you have changed it a bit. No offenses, but dont you have a better designer to make your website looks more attractive?
May I know how serious you are in your gambling project? Frankly speaking, what you have done so far does not show your professionalism as an owner of a gambling site.
Same comment coz i had said the same thing on earlier and post up some screenshots.When i do came back the site already had some graphics
but same as you said it doesnt change a lot and still a very generic type of crash site.They havent mentioned about other games since its clear on the
title that this is a crash gambling site.Owner nowadays doesnt really even consider on making a good lookin site and they do just create and hope for people to play.


Title: Re: GameKatana - Crash - Provably Fair
Post by: sujonali1819 on October 28, 2019, 04:24:08 PM
The site is very poorly designed. Just try to create an account firstly it does not work, the second time I able to create an account. I didn't find any important information on the site. The faucet is not working. And can not find any option for adding an email address even recovering the password. In one word the site design is very poor, lack of feature. I think it's not trying to use better than trying  ;D ;D