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Title: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: supika on October 26, 2019, 05:00:29 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: muslol67 on October 26, 2019, 05:10:38 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

[snipped]

What are your opinions?

Interesting. 2982 BTC is not a huge amount to influence the price of Bitcoin. But these are only what you have identified. More may have taken action.
I wonder that what is their purpose?


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: dothebeats on October 26, 2019, 05:56:18 PM
It seems as though someone immediately remembered that they have bitcoins and started sending them out somewhere else, or it could have been that some early adopters are now transferring their coins hence the movement by now. It could be a lot of things and this is not something new but apparently the timing is somewhat perfect and in-line with the recent pump that we've seen for bitcoin. Usually it goes the other way around but yeah, the movement has been a month or so ago that we don't know exactly what happened to those coins that were sent out.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Wysi on October 26, 2019, 06:00:06 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

It's surprising and alarming as well because I feel there is something really big which is been planned as these accounts have been active after so many years and I am sure 2982 bitcoins might not change the market situation but these are the only address which you have notified and there might be hundreds of other address as well and these might belong to one organization which is involved in manipulating the market. 


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: ashmodeus on October 26, 2019, 07:08:22 PM
well well, i dunno what behind the owner minds.
he do a mass sell right now, after 8 years, but on 2017 he absolutely see the prices is 2x higher than nowadays prices, and he just hodl it.
a simple reason :
probably he think the price will go higher ,but now, he seems tired for hodl and take action to sell. although , transactions are not carried out simultaneously.
but well , its just based from my opinion.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 26, 2019, 07:09:41 PM
He might have planned this, remember there are most people that are interested in Bitcoin all of a sudden then wants to hold their Bitcoin for so many years maybe some on these address was just like that and how did you know it is only owned by 1 person only? we may never know that this is just a coincidence that the owner of this certain wallet started to be active again,

But let's just say it is a planted whale and it is to be used in a certain time but regarding the transaction is you had based on that maybe it is just one person after all, but this is just all speculation and I think we need further proof on it.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: pixie85 on October 26, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
It's surprising and alarming as well because I feel there is something really big which is been planned as these accounts have been active after so many years and I am sure 2982 bitcoins might not change the market situation but these are the only address which you have notified and there might be hundreds of other address as well and these might belong to one organization which is involved in manipulating the market. 

This is not strange. Why do you think it's manipulation? There can be many reasons for an old account to wake up.
I'll give you some:
The owner died and the family gained access to the money. The family may not care about bitcoin and just wants the money
The owner got sick and needs money for treatment.
The owner got sick and knows he/she doesn't have much time left so it's now or never.
The owner finally had enough of waiting.
The money is being moved from one address to another. Sometimes to segwit, sometimes to something else.
The owner got a better investment opportunity like a family company that is in need of money.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: uray on October 26, 2019, 07:35:38 PM
Interesting. 2982 BTC is not a huge amount to influence the price of Bitcoin. But these are only what you have identified. More may have taken action.
I wonder that what is their purpose?
Even if the purpose was to sell those coins in the market what is stopping them as they own the coin and 2982 BTC might not be a huge amount of coins to influence in the market what if these coins are shifted to future exchanges like bitmex, you could manipulate the market with the amount.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: muslol67 on October 26, 2019, 08:05:02 PM
Interesting. 2982 BTC is not a huge amount to influence the price of Bitcoin. But these are only what you have identified. More may have taken action.
I wonder that what is their purpose?
Even if the purpose was to sell those coins in the market what is stopping them as they own the coin and 2982 BTC might not be a huge amount of coins to influence in the market what if these coins are shifted to future exchanges like bitmex, you could manipulate the market with the amount.

One of the things I don't know is margin trading. But first we need to look at the daily margin trading volume to talk about it. I think this figure is too low even for margin trading.


Anyone who hodls may one day findd out that he needs some money. So, don't see anything suspicious.

What a huge needs then  ;D
They can buy a small football club with that amount of BTC  ;D ;D


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: chaoscoinz on October 26, 2019, 08:19:32 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?
The guy probably waited until the regulations were a little bit clearer. My guess is that m way back in 2011 their wasn't much regulatory guidance. I don't think the IRS, SEC, or CFTC gave much advice around this time. After all, Bitcoin would only be 2 years of age.
   Giving the owner of these address the benefit of the doubt, he is most likely an early investor.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: garryck on October 26, 2019, 09:11:18 PM

What a huge needs then  ;D
They can buy a small football club with that amount of BTC  ;D ;D

Do we really know that they are connected? If yes - are we sure that that's one person and not a fund? If it's 10 people the amount is not so big. If it's 5 people - then every participant gets a little lower than an amount that is needed to buy some real estate and nice things and start little profitable business without caring much about fucking it up or getting up before 12 o'clock or doing things he or she doesn't want to.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: 1Referee on October 26, 2019, 09:34:19 PM
Anyone who hodls may one day findd out that he needs some money. So, don't see anything suspicious.

Not only that, but many old hands come to realization that holding a significant number of coins in one address isn't the best thing to do, so what happens is that they create new key pairs to have a safer distribution of coins, which shows how clueful they are. This largely explains why there are so many new addresses popping up with 500-1000BTC in them.

People always assume that coins will get sold once they start moving, but that isn't necessarily the case. Even if they are being sold, people are free to do with their coins whatever they want. There is no such a thing as an obligation to hold. The more old hands sell, the less wealth inequality there is within Bitcoin. Instead of one person owning thousands of coins, hundreds or even thousands of people will own a chunk of that person's stash.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: MrFreeDragon on October 26, 2019, 09:47:53 PM
-snip-

As you are not the author of this collection (did not find these addresses by yourself in blockchain), it is always good style to make the reference to the original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

However, thank you for transorming all the public keys to final addresses.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: vintages on October 26, 2019, 10:08:15 PM
One question OP, how did you 'specifically' found this addresses?
I am guessing you have been monitoring it before now to know when the owner made this move.
Anyways, three particular thing is involved here;
1) Perhaps the owner suddenly remembered he had some certain amount of Bitcoin

2) The owner has been hodling since and probably finally decided to make use of the funds (Not sure why he didn't spend not even one when the price was 20k though)

3) Someone else got hold of the private key or assess to the funds. (I hope this is not the case here)


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: xvids on October 26, 2019, 10:19:18 PM
One question OP, how did you 'specifically' found this addresses?
I am guessing you have been monitoring it before now to know when the owner made this move.
Anyways, three particular thing is involved here;
1) Perhaps the owner suddenly remembered he had some certain amount of Bitcoin

2) The owner has been hodling since and probably finally decided to make use of the funds (Not sure why he didn't spend not even one when the price was 20k though)

3) Someone else got hold of the private key or assess to the funds. (I hope this is not the case here)
Yes and I think the answer to your 2nd guess would be that the owner believes that it would continue to grow since back then there are so many speculation and we all thought that it was going to continue.
And the third one would be a good one too we don't know if the real owner still knows about their  crypto wallet and might have forgotten about it.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: supika on October 26, 2019, 10:21:02 PM
-snip-

As you are not the author of this collection (did not find these addresses by yourself in blockchain), it is always good style to make the reference to the original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

However, thank you for transorming all the public keys to final addresses.

I am not author of this collection :)) LOL
What's the point? I don't get it. So grow up :)

I posted the info on a telegram group in 23 Oct. (me and drotika we are members in that group). drotika took the adressess and extracted the public keys and posted the info on the puzzle topic.
I have other 2700 dormant addresses and I'm monitoring their activity for months now.
I didn't had to transform anything from anything.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Baofeng on October 26, 2019, 10:23:54 PM
We will never know as bitcoin addresses doesn't have name attach to it. So we can speculation that the owner is a long term holder, or suddenly remembers his private key, or someone get ahold of an old desktop/laptop that contains a lot of bitcoin and was able to get the private key as well. That's the beauty of bitcoin though, the owner remains (psuedo) anonymous and it remains a mystery to all of us.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Kyraishi on October 26, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

[snipped]

What are your opinions?

Interesting. 2982 BTC is not a huge amount to influence the price of Bitcoin. But these are only what you have identified. More may have taken action.
I wonder that what is their purpose?
3000 BTC, not including the forked values goes to around 27-28 million bitcoin, and if that was to enter the market, I would have no doubt in my mind that there would be a lot of issues we'll see, especially on a high volume exchange if he doesn't decide to go OTC.

There are a lot of reasons why a couple of domart addresses could have woken up, there's also a pretty decent chance that they don't all belong to the same owner and it's just coincidence that they woke up together, but my brain tells me it's probably some even that prompted him/her to realized they have a stash of BTC.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: supika on October 26, 2019, 10:29:04 PM
One question OP, how did you 'specifically' found this addresses?
I am guessing you have been monitoring it before now to know when the owner made this move.
Anyways, three particular thing is involved here;
1) Perhaps the owner suddenly remembered he had some certain amount of Bitcoin

2) The owner has been hodling since and probably finally decided to make use of the funds (Not sure why he didn't spend not even one when the price was 20k though)

3) Someone else got hold of the private key or assess to the funds. (I hope this is not the case here)

I have a list with dormant addresses around 2700 and I'm monitoring their activity for personal reasons.
Few days back I checked the balance on all of them and I saw that the funds were moved for some.

We don't know if is one person or a group. Also we don't know if is the owner..but it has the private keys.
The funds were only moved to other addresses.



Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: malikusama on October 26, 2019, 11:31:19 PM
May be they were waiting for this time since long? I don't think that suddenly they woke up and remembered their lost keys or wallets.

~snip~

It's surprising and alarming as well because I feel there is something really big which is been planned as these accounts have been active after so many years and I am sure 2982 bitcoins might not change the market situation but these are the only address which you have notified and there might be hundreds of other address as well and these might belong to one organization which is involved in manipulating the market.  
 
Oh man  ;D
I didn't find it suspicious or something like alarming/surprising, just relax.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: blckhawk on October 27, 2019, 12:49:17 AM
We can have different scenarios here that may explain these transactions. Its either:

(1) There is a single owner that suddenly remembered about his bitcoins and decided to use them or suddenly found his list of public and private keys, or

(2) This could be a group of early bitcoin holders that had talks and decided now is the time to pull out or transfer those bitcoins.

Either way, 8 years is way too long and I it's unlikely that it's planned. It's maybe a forgotten asset and remembered, while luckily keeping private keys safe.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Zeke_23 on October 27, 2019, 01:17:47 AM
One question OP, how did you 'specifically' found this addresses?
I am guessing you have been monitoring it before now to know when the owner made this move.
Anyways, three particular thing is involved here;
1) Perhaps the owner suddenly remembered he had some certain amount of Bitcoin

2) The owner has been hodling since and probably finally decided to make use of the funds (Not sure why he didn't spend not even one when the price was 20k though)

3) Someone else got hold of the private key or assess to the funds. (I hope this is not the case here)

I have a list with dormant addresses around 2700 and I'm monitoring their activity for personal reasons.
Few days back I checked the balance on all of them and I saw that the funds were moved for some.

We don't know if is one person or a group. Also we don't know if is the owner..but it has the private keys.
The funds were only moved to other addresses.


Maybe this has been done by a single person, as you said this wallet already been existed since 2011. I think an individual store it and do not intend to move or use it over the past few years for his own reasons. This may be his time to make a move.
Well, we don't know his reasons.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: CryptoBry on October 27, 2019, 01:35:32 AM
All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

What are your opinions?

I am not alarmed with these Bitcoin addresses suddenly waking up after years of being dormant, me thinks this is just another natural occurrence in this industry. Whatever reason/s the holders may have for this decision, it is only them that knows. This is just plainly strange as 8 years is a long period of time and why the holder/s did take advantage of the bull run in 2017 is another mystery.

On the other hand, can this be connected with the recent soar of the Bitcoin price? Maybe holders realized that it is time to let go of these coins and convert them into fiat money. I would be interested if there can be more wallets waking up and suddenly doing some transactions and not just these few enumerated above.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Eugenar on October 27, 2019, 01:43:33 AM
There are possibilities that these addresses are own by whales that just the market passes till right now, I have a huge speculation that they know what will happen why they hodl such big amount of bitcoin from 2011. In this case, we can perceive that market will be much lively as they participate in trading. At the same time, I have a fear that it can make the bitcoin market price decline a little bit as lost bitcoin is a key to huge market price.
 


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: angrybirdy on October 27, 2019, 01:47:22 AM
There are possibilities that these addresses are own by whales that just the market passes till right now, I have a huge speculation that they know what will happen why they hodl such big amount of bitcoin from 2011. In this case, we can perceive that market will be much lively as they participate in trading.

Different speculations are now coming into our minds. A sudden movement of a dormant wallet which is suddenly appeared after all these years.
There is a higher percentage that this is owned by a whale and there must be something huge that will happen in the market for the next following days or months.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: marcbitcoins on October 27, 2019, 01:53:07 AM
Waiting for 8 years is a very long period of waiting for Bitcoin to become more expensive and perhaps they should sell their Bitcoins on 2017 so i think it was not planned to keep it. Maybe the owner(s) lost the private keys and found it then they sell the Bitcoin right away as Bitcoin value today is still much expensive compared to 8 years ago.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on October 27, 2019, 02:15:49 AM
Waiting for 8 years is a very long period of waiting for Bitcoin to become more expensive and perhaps they should sell their Bitcoins on 2017 so i think it was not planned to keep it. Maybe the owner(s) lost the private keys and found it then they sell the Bitcoin right away as Bitcoin value today is still much expensive compared to 8 years ago.
It very long-awaited years for the owner of this wallet. Yes, the owner might have lost his private key and suddenly found it or else I think he just forgot about it and suddenly appear in his mind that he is holding much Bitcoin.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: boltz on October 27, 2019, 02:24:16 AM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Just because he simply didn't sell any of his bitcoin doesn't mean he forgot about them so there are more scenarios :

1. The owner needed some urgent cash in order to buy something

2. He forgot about them ( one lucky guy who mined in 2011 )

3. Long term holder so he didn't need to make any transactions without any significant reason

4. He cashed out and he's one happy guy

5. Several personal owns those address ( maybe a group of whales or investors or maybe even a project )

The amount he had its still low to make a significant impact in the Bitcoin price but he can be considered a mini whale as there are still 2982 BTC which is not a small amount we can't deny it. When the bull run will begin we will see transaction of 10k Bitcoin moving out and that is something normal around a bullish market.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Ailmand on October 27, 2019, 02:31:02 AM
We cannot confirm if these 21 addresses are owned by just one person, but it would be a coincidence if they became active all at the same time. It could be an early adapter of bitcoin. Guest have forgotten that he has a bitcoin or just have found the access to his wallet again because if I were that person I would have chose to sell my bitcoin last 2017, and not today. Or it could be that he needs cash immediately or he had set this specific time to sell.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: drotika on October 27, 2019, 02:50:01 AM
-snip-

As you are not the author of this collection (did not find these addresses by yourself in blockchain), it is always good style to make the reference to the original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

However, thank you for transorming all the public keys to final addresses.

these titles were in the wrong range and moved to a safe place

2**169 > 2**170 Bit are all within this range
0x2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000:0x3ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: hahahafr on October 27, 2019, 02:51:37 AM
It's pretty funny anytime there is such spike in  the price of BTC these things happen. Well i guess everybody has his/her sell target for BTC and probably this is theirs. I am just waiting to see the day that Satoshi is also going to move any of his genesis block rewards> He might be waiting for $50K per coin then.  8)


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: mascherono on October 27, 2019, 02:54:22 AM
It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 27, 2019, 03:23:04 AM
Good find, those addresses are really dormant, so we don't know what suddenly he just dumped everything in 2019. He could have liquidate it during the peak in 2017 and I'm sure he will have a windfall that time.

But it really doesn't make sense to sell it in 2019, so perhaps someone get hold of all that addresses and the privatekey and quickly sell-off to take the money away and enjoy his "bounty". I don't think that the original owner will just dumped it, his been holding it for so long, he could have waited for another new all-time-high before selling and that is the most logical thing to do.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: th3nolo on October 27, 2019, 03:43:57 AM
Snip.
Maybe the owner of those Bitcoins wants to move them to split them into several wallets to improve their security.

Maybe that's why there was an increase in wallets with more than 1000 bitcoins.

I think that's the most likely reason, dormant addresses securing their Bitcoins.

8 years is enough time for anyone
If not, when?


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: pooya87 on October 27, 2019, 05:10:11 AM
they don't look that dormant to me. it is impossible to know for sure and walletexplorer doesn't recognize a couple of them that i searched, but they look more like funds a big service puts in its cold storage specially the way these inputs are created.
for example https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/741aa0b3ff1eb733c7b096fb18b0f4ee6891f98a7ad8900f5530b21d0b9db46d
and the change (527.6BTC) goes into what looks more like making payments to withdrawal requests, such as what exchanges do.
could this be Mt Gox?


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: joniboini on October 27, 2019, 06:00:48 AM
Nobody can answer this question with exact precision. I think making a connection is good, but when the nature of the address is unknown (no related address found), then this could turn into something unproductive.

Even if we know which addresses are related to this 'dormant' addresses, it's challenging to find out why exactly the TX happen or who did it. For an average joe at least.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Kyraishi on October 27, 2019, 06:39:31 AM
One question OP, how did you 'specifically' found this addresses?
I am guessing you have been monitoring it before now to know when the owner made this move.
Anyways, three particular thing is involved here;
1) Perhaps the owner suddenly remembered he had some certain amount of Bitcoin

2) The owner has been hodling since and probably finally decided to make use of the funds (Not sure why he didn't spend not even one when the price was 20k though)

3) Someone else got hold of the private key or assess to the funds. (I hope this is not the case here)

I have a list with dormant addresses around 2700 and I'm monitoring their activity for personal reasons.
Few days back I checked the balance on all of them and I saw that the funds were moved for some.

We don't know if is one person or a group. Also we don't know if is the owner..but it has the private keys.
The funds were only moved to other addresses.
That's fair mate.

I actually have a different theory, don't think they are actually dormant or that they belong to a single group/person, I think it's something thats more business-related.

It looks like the addresses are likely owned by a fairly rich company or even exchange for that matter. It could be an ICO that was keeping some of their funds in cold storage after they crowdfunded, or could be a cold wallet for an exchange. Wonder why they are suddenly active again though...


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Casdinyard on October 27, 2019, 08:02:44 AM
It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Oh no, did the year died? LOL!
Anyway, OP mentioned that the funds were transferred and didn't sell.

Moreover, that person or group surely a long term holder, imagine that he missed or didn't sold his bitcoin when it's on ATH last 2017. That profit he could get tho. Or he really have a lot of bitcoin keeping on different wallets. Envy those guys, erffff.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: iparktur on October 27, 2019, 08:21:46 AM
-snip-

As you are not the author of this collection (did not find these addresses by yourself in blockchain), it is always good style to make the reference to the original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

However, thank you for transorming all the public keys to final addresses.

these titles were in the wrong range and moved to a safe place

2**169 > 2**170 Bit are all within this range
0x2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000:0x3ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff



Transactions from each address were made at different times, for several days but for a small period of time.
Therefore, we can assume that these addresses may have one owner or the owners of these addresses communicate with each other and do this together.
The reason (as one option) may be the desire to “update the repository” for the next few years.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: uray on October 27, 2019, 08:24:29 AM
~snip
One of the things I don't know is margin trading. But first we need to look at the daily margin trading volume to talk about it. I think this figure is too low even for margin trading.
The risk are higher and you need to follow the market trend closely and you need to have a bot to figure out the volumes in all the exchanges in order to understand the market situation, if you are having doubt about the daily margin trading volume then you have to look again, $4,372,987,034 being traded in one future exchange alone in the past 24 hours just combine the total volume and you will understand the huge market.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: kayvie on October 27, 2019, 08:41:28 AM
It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Oh no, did the year died? LOL!
Anyway, OP mentioned that the funds were transferred and didn't sell.

OP just made a mistake, it's not a big deal


It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Moreover, that person or group surely a long term holder, imagine that he missed or didn't sold his bitcoin when it's on ATH last 2017. That profit he could get tho. Or he really have a lot of bitcoin keeping on different wallets. Envy those guys, erffff.
For any reason, missing the highest ATH last 2017 was planned I think. A group or a certain person was really planning for maximizing his profit by waiting for the highest possible price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Willitivity on October 27, 2019, 08:50:45 AM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

What are your opinions?

There are so many points to actually analyse this from, the Bitcoins were moved out to another wallet probably for sales or to a more secured wallet for safer keeping. If the owners bought those Bitcoins 8years back, then they might actually trying to take some profits. If it was owned by an organisation orca group of persons, maybe their agreed holding period has reached and they are sharing it off.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: BlackFor3st on October 27, 2019, 10:48:50 AM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Wow it's a huge of money especially if the owner of this addresses is/are not aware of it and they just remembered it recently.

The owners of that addresses are very lucky that they bought Bitcoin last 2011 and let it sit for 8 years. But if I were them 2017 is the best time for it to cash out as it was the peak of the market.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: iparktur on October 27, 2019, 11:10:36 AM
And if we assume that everything is much simpler?
If someone (or several people) found a way to open old addresses and now "pours" from old addresses to new ones.
In order not to cause panic and suspicion, it simply “pours” these funds to their new addresses without cashing out?
And when the "right" time comes, then will cash out OR will cash out gradually.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: MrFreeDragon on October 27, 2019, 12:39:14 PM
One more version: the owner of these wallets probably was in prison since 2012-2013 till now. And that prison actually made a good thing for him - he was not able to sell his crypto assets. And now, after 5-7 years in prison, he is free and rich  ;D


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: palle11 on October 27, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
One more version: the owner of these wallets probably was in prison since 2012-2013 till now. And that prison actually made a good thing for him - he was not able to sell his crypto assets. And now, after 5-7 years in prison, he is free and rich  ;D

Lol...this could be more of blessing in disguise. Turning the negative to positive.

Well, I strongly believe that something would have made the hodler not to have access to the passwords because he or she would have been tempted to sell off before this time.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Gotumoot on October 27, 2019, 02:23:35 PM
It is possible that these wallets were once owned by investors in 2013, I think the reason for this is that the lost private key has been recovered.
Considering the opportunities they were supposed to sell in 2017. That didn't sell out because they were looking for a copy of the missing Private Key.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: gabbie2010 on October 27, 2019, 03:02:10 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Wow it's a huge of money especially if the owner of this addresses is/are not aware of it and they just remembered it recently.

The owners of that addresses are very lucky that they bought Bitcoin last 2011 and let it sit for 8 years. But if I were them 2017 is the best time for it to cash out as it was the peak of the market.
Probably they missed selling their bitcoin in 2017 ATH and now they don't want to miss another chance at least selling at $10K is not a bad bargain considering the fact that those bitcoin were bought in 2011 at the early stages of bitcoin ie early adopter.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: teosanru on October 27, 2019, 03:11:10 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?
Surprisingly this news can be taken as a double edged sword having both benefits and disadvantages. Maybe he was an early adopter who just doesn't trust Cryptocurrencies anymore and is ready to flush all of this in market to create a huge slump or maybe someone who just transferred some money due to security concerns with his previous address maybe he decided to transfer to Segwit or something. I think overthinking upon this issue really won't help we can't do anything other than just waiting.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: pundit on October 27, 2019, 04:28:47 PM
well well, i dunno what behind the owner minds.
he do a mass sell right now, after 8 years, but on 2017 he absolutely see the prices is 2x higher than nowadays prices, and he just hodl it.
a simple reason :
probably he think the price will go higher ,but now, he seems tired for hodl and take action to sell. although , transactions are not carried out simultaneously.
but well , its just based from my opinion.

Agreed to some extent that owner of these Bitoins may have tired of holding these BTC and sold it off but I think we all are positive about BTC price movement and we are expecting it to reach at new heights sooner of later, hodler might be in the same state, if he had hold it for 8 years then what is the problem in holding it for next 2-3 years. If he is worried about price decrease he could have sold half the amount. Yes if he has found some better investment option than BTC, it seems logical.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: satoshyknew on October 28, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.

Re: Bitcoin treasure https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146858.0
1W7yh46qNUqw3RhyWzRVHjuJnHWpQqy7W
13AJqcp7GJRmAEePJqZHJCZLsXPSZuPzn9
13DCZ3sj6gVFVymdTd1mjz3BZZ5g1CQgbr
15JiPJoFoqoBTMcGDWahv5CjxYgdt1msDM
16kG6iyB3oGchcxXJccjjSmtdqBeRsDgio
17RsqLeP4XVT95htFoT9iWu7C4vAZw2FoW
19g8gf31otseCiYcdXPBh2qGEjrpEpqaoe
1A1hm4i1NbGLDFjp6sRMC6NoxZdQeSfD36
1BNVEnRmCbdP5QbuPySTHkznoSMMnkbvG6
1CFjxrYr8PkZoLgnHoAy1pRvg1WwvhuPVL
1DJfq3Nw1xjrrBVHGT3V1ZGxPBHVnJfivC
1EYyYeWSKGriPUK8juC9ubDQzKQUEpJfe7
1GTEootnGUPVw1M77QAQgm32iV7vq2aKJL
1GsaJu5LxJWKJumfiYmmJx28czQ11fXaeK
1Hcbg5k8kbmzcih3Xbzob9RhDZ3QcyfY3i
1JugDKUGpcKztsEfJroMESH92VA134sLSL
1L8YfeDDdY12mcM8j7XmoXGNsv5a8JoMVh
1Li8RFUotXHJPNazCM8HAfnkxKcrKXXpiH
1N1rBm39bTiLyXnW7jkQxxnfBmHC4SZdMV
1NUoeQnBB9QeAigU4r8iApsd4b4iiRpN6V



Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: MrFreeDragon on October 28, 2019, 02:59:58 PM
-snip-
2**169 > 2**170 Bit are all within this range
0x2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000:0x3ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
-snip-

How do you know that all these released addresses were with the private keys in 170bit range?


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: supika on October 28, 2019, 03:24:16 PM

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.


Yeah. The puzzle of life. I want to solve a puzzle of 3000BTC to.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Genemind on October 28, 2019, 05:10:07 PM
It's surprising and alarming as well because I feel there is something really big which is been planned as these accounts have been active after so many years and I am sure 2982 bitcoins might not change the market situation but these are the only address which you have notified and there might be hundreds of other address as well and these might belong to one organization which is involved in manipulating the market. 

This is not strange. Why do you think it's manipulation? There can be many reasons for an old account to wake up.
I'll give you some:
The owner died and the family gained access to the money. The family may not care about bitcoin and just wants the money
The owner got sick and needs money for treatment.
The owner got sick and knows he/she doesn't have much time left so it's now or never.
The owner finally had enough of waiting.
The money is being moved from one address to another. Sometimes to segwit, sometimes to something else.
The owner got a better investment opportunity like a family company that is in need of money.



These things are possible because we really don't know the reason for the owner. As for me, it might be his plan to keep his bitcoins for years or he might have forgotten the private keys or his holdings since having crypto before isn't a big deal due to its price. Whatever the reason is, the owner is still lucky that he still has his BTC's until now. Although he missed the chance of selling during the last bull run, he will still be able to grab the next chance.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: k@suy on November 01, 2019, 06:40:59 AM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?
Yes its strange that it is has been opened now, but how do you find them? Does some of that wallet belongs to you? If not I have a feeling that someone has an access on it, maybe that address has a connection to each other and someone crack the keys and opened it. Or maybe it is in the same cloud and then someone hacks the way on it and then it happens .


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Dabs on November 01, 2019, 02:05:28 PM
I didn't look at all of them, just a few, but many of them simply transferred from one legacy address to another legacy address. One of them transferred from a legacy address to a native segwit address.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: iparktur on November 01, 2019, 03:15:16 PM

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.


Yeah. The puzzle of life. I want to solve a puzzle of 3000BTC to.

4 wallet dat  2 solved ! :o :o

https://satoshidisk.com/pay/C7noAQ

Who will sell private keys?
Why do not they take these bitcoins?
There is no guarantee that these private keys will open these addresses.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: GMoore87 on November 01, 2019, 03:23:10 PM
Maybe this was the idea from the beginning. Considering how much these Bitcoins would have been appreciated.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Oilacris on November 01, 2019, 03:33:14 PM
It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Oh no, did the year died? LOL!
Anyway, OP mentioned that the funds were transferred and didn't sell.

Moreover, that person or group surely a long term holder, imagine that he missed or didn't sold his bitcoin when it's on ATH last 2017. That profit he could get tho. Or he really have a lot of bitcoin keeping on different wallets. Envy those guys, erffff.
Well it cant really be avoided for majority of us would really got jealous or envy on what they do possess. We wouldn't able to know

on whats behind those dormant address goes to active but doesn't being moved out but one things for sure that the owner/s of those wallets
do remember out that they are holding something that do talks about millions of dollars.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: alyssa85 on November 01, 2019, 07:28:22 PM
It seems as though someone immediately remembered that they have bitcoins and started sending them out somewhere else, or it could have been that some early adopters are now transferring their coins hence the movement by now. It could be a lot of things and this is not something new but apparently the timing is somewhat perfect and in-line with the recent pump that we've seen for bitcoin. Usually it goes the other way around but yeah, the movement has been a month or so ago that we don't know exactly what happened to those coins that were sent out.

This. It's likely to be an early miner that remembered they had coins in a wallet on their old computer in their attic. It's not a huge amount of coins, so unlikely to have affected either the dump or the subsequent pump.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: btcscamwarning on November 01, 2019, 09:08:07 PM

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.


Yeah. The puzzle of life. I want to solve a puzzle of 3000BTC to.

4 wallet dat  2 solved ! :o :o

https://satoshidisk.com/pay/C7noAQ

Who will sell private keys?
Why do not they take these bitcoins?
There is no guarantee that these private keys will open these addresses.

google web archive can be found
source of all 4 wallets

here's an example!
https://imgur.com/hQ2ZQ9r

12quQt1vjSuc62nif2dGFmsgyxosB67go2
155A4hz5BcpeB722FoZSewsLojR3MeRc8u
1DNZ2vEqnAYPKKS3vLeLEjV8Ax7Du9L8vn

Scammer. Don't buy this wallet. Electrum.dat and wallet.dat = big difference.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: btcscamwarning on November 01, 2019, 09:47:08 PM

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.


Yeah. The puzzle of life. I want to solve a puzzle of 3000BTC to.

4 wallet dat  2 solved ! :o :o

https://satoshidisk.com/pay/C7noAQ

Who will sell private keys?
Why do not they take these bitcoins?
There is no guarantee that these private keys will open these addresses.

google web archive can be found
source of all 4 wallets

here's an example!
https://imgur.com/hQ2ZQ9r

12quQt1vjSuc62nif2dGFmsgyxosB67go2
155A4hz5BcpeB722FoZSewsLojR3MeRc8u
1DNZ2vEqnAYPKKS3vLeLEjV8Ax7Du9L8vn

Scammer. Don't buy this wallet. Electrum.dat and wallet.dat = big difference.


SCAMMER ???   LOL
I don't sell anything to you idiot

elektrum wallet 2million dollar  LOL  

http://web.archive.org/web/20140420105001/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140912.0

In 2010 to 2013 there are many abandoned wallets on the net



I don't believe you :). Scammer. Don't buy the wallet he posted the link to!


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: iparktur on November 02, 2019, 09:45:23 AM
1 - this address 1DNZ2vEqnAYPKKS3vLeLEjV8Ax7Du98 is specified not correctly.
Will be correct - 1DNZ2vEqnAYPKKS3vLeLEjV8Ax7Du9L8vn

2 - if these addresses were created in ELECTRUM and if an option " only for receiving funds (watch-only wallet) " there was established, without SEED phrases anybody nothing can make.

3 - on this address 155A4hz5BcpeB722FoZSewsLojR3MeRc8u continue to come BTC


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: sapnu on November 02, 2019, 10:55:59 AM
It seems as though someone immediately remembered that they have bitcoins and started sending them out somewhere else, or it could have been that some early adopters are now transferring their coins hence the movement by now. It could be a lot of things and this is not something new but apparently the timing is somewhat perfect and in-line with the recent pump that we've seen for bitcoin. Usually it goes the other way around but yeah, the movement has been a month or so ago that we don't know exactly what happened to those coins that were sent out.

This. It's likely to be an early miner that remembered they had coins in a wallet on their old computer in their attic. It's not a huge amount of coins, so unlikely to have affected either the dump or the subsequent pump.
Maybe this addresses are the old ones, what I mean is that they have bought a lot of bitcoins since it was started. Because we all know the price of bitcoin since it started it too low so if it pumps the prices on their wallet also pumps. We all know that the nature of every cryptocurrency is volatile, meaning the prices are changing time by time, everytime that there is transaction happening the prices in the market is changing. It is all about buying low and wait for the right time that the price go up. Patience is a virtue, you should keep that in mind if you want to earn a lot of money. You should have also courage to earn even if the market is going on a downfall, dont lose hope and just wait. HOLD until you get what you want.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Darooghe on November 02, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
Keep on watching, whales are moving coins to unknown wallets showing the intention of HODLing. As usual, no one knows what this means for the short term price of BTC. But it's obvious major players are getting ready to absolutely game the futures market. All the huge movement recently, seems like they are teeing up to me. however this could be a good news because a large BTC movement does not mean the person or the group wants to sell the coins or dumps the market. They may, for example, use the BTC to enter a long position, and borrow USD to buy BTC. in general, don't trade based on some 3000 BTC moving somewhere and HODL. Don't forget it's just a new market. Don't be afraid of whales, be afraid of not entering the market early.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: supika on February 20, 2020, 08:43:24 PM
Second round. All addressees are  from 2011. A total of aprox 3653 BTC.

Almost all of them are having input transactions of 0.00000888 BTC, 0.00000666 BTC or other similar values.

121PD8dUB7qV3iBti2oh749FB6ewKhrUVd
12Sw5TdWmhNBrp4aatyUbuwvjTWiGBN6Ud
15HFtBRHb1YBya59qqBh4ixERvpghqHPm9
163FHEwPo24J8qJpeGn49bfW1ZFvtveetg
17p9trUz5EEwdBS2w1RH2ZtuHmHFhWVzSh
186XnrNi2PaaaDkmR5Uy1ApJ6XEwjWyAGu
1cyWYR4WxXrXY18Exi6xwAPJaT18nPRfk
1DAq5ddQygy8FYxUv2GcnVG6do8kvxEBZM
1DvjpfhySgayHZbDtRkMLbYLyfHjQJfy6g
1Ehoz6WPFfVPgCJeifiPMirsVUYQ8So9oM
1GTKWmjYzVZbckw7WYkk4obadsTFACAHCp
1H4VEycmCNW3mxUMemYW68BKBM4giBkVLe
1KdypGFpuYc6RSiwon2LZkRasdjTM6TgMH
1QHQMWtQoJMouPrQHfJPHyqx9asvJTMRSP


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: mrxtraf on February 20, 2020, 09:37:39 PM
Second round. All addressees are  from 2011. A total of aprox 3653 BTC.

Almost all of them are having input transactions of 0.00000888 BTC, 0.00000666 BTC or other similar values.

121PD8dUB7qV3iBti2oh749FB6ewKhrUVd
12Sw5TdWmhNBrp4aatyUbuwvjTWiGBN6Ud
15HFtBRHb1YBya59qqBh4ixERvpghqHPm9
163FHEwPo24J8qJpeGn49bfW1ZFvtveetg
17p9trUz5EEwdBS2w1RH2ZtuHmHFhWVzSh
186XnrNi2PaaaDkmR5Uy1ApJ6XEwjWyAGu
1cyWYR4WxXrXY18Exi6xwAPJaT18nPRfk
1DAq5ddQygy8FYxUv2GcnVG6do8kvxEBZM
1DvjpfhySgayHZbDtRkMLbYLyfHjQJfy6g
1Ehoz6WPFfVPgCJeifiPMirsVUYQ8So9oM
1GTKWmjYzVZbckw7WYkk4obadsTFACAHCp
1H4VEycmCNW3mxUMemYW68BKBM4giBkVLe
1KdypGFpuYc6RSiwon2LZkRasdjTM6TgMH
1QHQMWtQoJMouPrQHfJPHyqx9asvJTMRSP

There are several points that suggest different thoughts.
The first one. These transactions are made automatically. At the same time, the machine has not been controlled for a long time or it has not been controlled.
Where are such conclusions from?
1. The funds haven’t gone any further.
2. If someone got access (remembered, picked up, restored) to a private wallet. That would have transferred the entire balance, and not the first initial transaction!
3. The altos BCH etc., would be moved!
Two options come out of this.
1. There is some kind of script that runs from time to time and transfers funds from wallets that he knows to new ones, while he remembers new addresses and amounts. In this case, the amounts may be different and time intervals between transfers too.
Option 2. This is someone picking up transaction signatures. Created a large number of transactions with large amounts on the basis of current blockchain data, once upon a time, and a subset of these signature transactions. Again, this is some kind of machine. And no one controls, otherwise the altos would have been translated.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on February 21, 2020, 10:58:25 PM
It seems as though someone immediately remembered that they have bitcoins and started sending them out somewhere else, or it could have been that some early adopters are now transferring their coins hence the movement by now. It could be a lot of things and this is not something new but apparently the timing is somewhat perfect and in-line with the recent pump that we've seen for bitcoin. Usually it goes the other way around but yeah, the movement has been a month or so ago that we don't know exactly what happened to those coins that were sent out.
If I'm going to guess these people caught wind of the halving and then remembered that they have some bitcoins in their wallet. That's why they opened their accounts once again. I can't tell if this is a good or a bad thing for bitcoin as a whole because for starters they are not expected to do anything qith their coins but maybe trade and sell. They might cause a huge dump in bitcoin's price after the halving which could cause a huge problem for those people who hodled their coins instead of selling them.

Hopefully these people fo something more productive with their coins instesd ofcjust flat out selling them to at least secure bitcoin's future.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: alizarosa2123 on April 21, 2020, 05:45:36 AM
well, i do not know what behind the proprietor minds.
he do a mass sell at this moment, following 8 years, however on 2017 he totally observe the prices is 2x above lately costs, and he just hodl it.
a basic explanation :
most likely he figure the value will go higher ,yet now, he appears to be drained for hodl and make a move to sell. in spite of the very fact that , exchanges aren't done at an equivalent time.

be that because it may, well , its simply based from my supposition.


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: cchadwicka on September 12, 2020, 02:29:24 AM
I am the owner of address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: iparktur on September 12, 2020, 06:51:09 AM
I am the owner of address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF

Why did you write about this problem here on the forum? If you know everything and are currently negotiating with Bitstamp support - how can we help you? We can only wish you success in negotiations with the Bitstamp administration ....


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: cchadwicka on September 13, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF?page=68

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yf5FsdyDPm+CPEE2suSoCaAchaqvz+f+            <---------------------  this is a type of , "memory bar" I used while thinking a certain thought.   this was in my notes

Frenom Ticker 468994    this was in my notes



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Above is encrypted notes to deter data loss and data theft.

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Frenom Ticker is bitstamp account number 489xx.

yf5 refers to the address;     1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF   refers to the first three letters.  (e being the 5th letter in the alphabet)

+f+ refers to the address     1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF    refers to the second F and the last F

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these are notes I have that may pertain to the address. I hid information in the maxthon browser notes section.  

And although this is probably not true, I know I did open a bitstamp account in 2011 and I did buy some bitcoin.  It is just bitstamp wont let me into my account.

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I opened account 489xx at Bitstamp.net.  I believe this is the location of the account;

I opened the account in February of 2011.  I had some banking to do the week of February 7-11.  
Attempted to purchase bitcoin on February 7 or 8.  Was unsuccessful (visa verify, mastercard secure code).  
I went to Arkansas Federal Credit Union to transfer money to a Visa or Mastercard that would authorize a purchase.  
The woman at the bank put a 2 week hold on my funds.  Typical safety procedure at the bank, no big deal.  
I believe that the next purchase could have been made on March first.  

Bitstamp has refused to send me a password reset.  I am unable to access my account.
The bitcoin are either held on Bitstanp's custodian service or on an offline wallet, the bip passphrase is,
if I remember corrrectly, stored on the support notes on Bitstamp account 48994.

*I typed 'Tim Hall' in the name box of the account.  On June 3, 2011 I put a note that was similar to, "This account belongs to Chadwick Allen Austin.".
This may be the reason Bitstamp will not let me into my account.  I am not intrested in addressing any Fraud claims or anything similar.  
I am innocent and I am not a crook.  I believe it is my religious right to use any name I choose, and any birth date I choose.  
I am honest and trust myself.

I have spent several years trying to get access to these purchases made in 2011.    
I trust the internet community and am providing this information with the presumption honesty will prevail.

I know for sure, 100% that I bought some bitcoin in 2011 at bitstamp and I have my account number.  
honesty prevailing, one day I will regain access to my btc account.

Please do not use or address me by my birth name.  

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today, I am still unsure of the records on the blockchain concerning the 1Fee address.  I remember it differently.  coincidental it has a June 3, 2011 buy.  that was the last time I accessed the account.



Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: iparktur on September 14, 2020, 07:33:17 AM
To  cchadwicka

You write some doubtful facts.
You wrote that you opened your account and bought bitcoins on June 3, 2011 for $ 116.
But this account was opened on March 01, 2011.
February 9 - Bitcoin has reached a psychologically important mark - parity to the US dollar (1 BTC = 1 USD).
Therefore, for $ 116 you could buy 116 BTC but not 79,956 BTC !!!
Even if we assume that you could have redeemed bitcoins from someone at half price (i.e., 0.5 USD each), then for a maximum of $ 116 you could buy 232 BTC but not 79956 BTC !!!


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: Dana888 on September 14, 2020, 07:48:35 AM
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Similar to that. It happens that someone hides the key to the wallet and finds it accidentally on an old laptop, and there is already a fortune) Perhaps this is what happened to the owner of this wallet. Perhaps he even lives somewhere on this forum and we can ask him a few questions directly. Answer my friend!


Title: Re: dormant addresses are waking up?
Post by: cchadwicka on September 14, 2020, 07:55:15 PM
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF?page=68

=============================================================

yf5FsdyDPm+CPEE2suSoCaAchaqvz+f+            <---------------------  this is a type of , "memory bar" I used while thinking a certain thought.   this was in my notes

Frenom Ticker 468994    this was in my notes



===================================================================================

Above is encrypted notes to deter data loss and data theft.

===================================================================================

Frenom Ticker is bitstamp account number 489xx.

yf5 refers to the address;     1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF   refers to the first three letters.  (e being the 5th letter in the alphabet)

+f+ refers to the address     1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF    refers to the second F and the last F

===================================================================================

these are notes I have that may pertain to the address. I hid information in the maxthon browser notes section.  

And although this is probably not true, I know I did open a bitstamp account in 2011 and I did buy some bitcoin.  It is just bitstamp wont let me into my account.

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The account at bitstamp was opened at 1609 Center Street, Little Rock, Ar 72016 USA on a comcast internet connection with a gateway computer I bought at best buy on a Friday.

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