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Title: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: DaveF on October 26, 2019, 05:33:43 PM
Full disclosure when I posted this I had just left the mintdice sig campaign and put on the YoBit sig.
It had nothing to to with yahoo62278 / mintdice but a change in work that would probably not let me make the required posts for a while so I went to a no minimum post signature.

With the above being said. Between yesterday and today BTC went up a lot in value vs USD then came back down a bunch high of a bit over $10k USD down to about $9150
So in theory depending on when yahoo paid and when I got up and moved it there could be a significant change in value.

Yes, I know if I paid got for something .001 that too changed a lot but, since this is a board about bitcoin, I was just wondering how you want to get your pay computed.

It's probably not going to change how sig campaigns are run since it's between the manager and the people paying for it, but since there was such a large bounce it just kind of crossed my mind.
And if it is USD or other based, do you think the campaign manager should post I used this rate for conversion. Yeah, I know I can do the math in about 15 seconds but having it public might just look better.
Not sure.

Just some ramblings on a Saturday,

-Dave


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: UserU on October 26, 2019, 06:20:05 PM
There's no clear winner, since BTC can net you gains but at the same time, slide down while fiat is levied all the time but at least you can purchase more stuffs.

Personally, I'd go with BTC.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: thisnewcoin on October 26, 2019, 06:26:25 PM
Honestly, I prefer both. Though we usually get Bitcoin for some specific bounties/signature campaign. But recently I saw in temtum bounty campaign and they offer USD pegged tem coins. So, every bounty hunters are happy that whatever happens in the market, they will get payment in USD value. Payment in BTC, ETH is preferable because anyone can exchange these coins very easily, not because it can go up.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: target on October 26, 2019, 07:48:03 PM


You prefer to receive USD when the bears are still winning as it is of course stable. You don't worry even if BTC take a nose dive over and over since you have a fix amount of USD in BTC. Accepting BTC rate is much appreciated when its price is going up.

If in USD, the conversion I guess depends to the manager but you are right seeing how much the value will change in seconds will be a surprise for you when case like what happen yesterday that BTC suddenly jumps up.



Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: TryNinja on October 26, 2019, 08:12:17 PM
If you mean a fixed price in BTC or the respective value of X USD but in BTC, then I prefer in BTC. After all, 1 BTC = 1BTC and I like to think that I'm getting paid real BTCs for my "work" and not dollars but through BTC. Confusing? Maybe. But that's how I feel. :)

Also, probably not what you're talking about, but if I was getting paid in USD for that, I would just buy BTC right away. Pretty much all I get in this forum and other ventures is used to increase my BTC holdings.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 26, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
BTC. I use signature campaigns to accumulate BTC which I hold for fun, use to purchase things guilt-free (right now I'm saving up for some gold!), so on and so forth. I find I get some kind of mental block once I've got cash in hand or in my bank account that I don't get when I spend earned BTC - very weird, but it works fine for me and I guess it helps me to save money :)


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: hello_good_sir on October 26, 2019, 10:52:15 PM
It depends what a lot of people do with their income, there's no avoiding that they are people who require their signature funds to actually survive and buy food and water for themselves, 150 or so USD a week is a decent sum in some countries, and I am sure that those people would much prefer weekly/daily payments that where set in the USD value (can't buy essentials with BTC just yet!).

As for some of the more fortunate people, I enjoy acquiring some free BTC in my spare time as it helps fuel my trading addition and also gives me a bit more bankroll when it comes to trading, and even makes me feel like I can spend the extra 500 dollars and get the higher-spec model laptop, if that makes sense?


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: bL4nkcode on October 26, 2019, 11:05:17 PM
Actually I'd rather accept in a fixed BTC rate, but in contrary I'm in a USD based payment campaign, well, long term campaign matters the most.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: gentlemand on October 26, 2019, 11:08:33 PM
It's an interesting one.

The bitmixer.io campaign was an eternal 0.035 per week. At one point that was one of the worst paying campaigns, about $10 a week or less in 2015, and by the time it died it was the best paying and people were scrabbling to get into it.

USD obviously has constant exchange rate adjustments. Most BTC campaigns are pretty sluggish in changing the amounts they pay, though I noticed some were extremely reactive, enough to piss off their users.

If your earnings go straight out then you may as well stick with USD. If you're looking to the future then BTC.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: LTU_btc on October 26, 2019, 11:15:54 PM
Honestly, I don't know, it depends on specific campaign. Now I'm getting $50 in BTC weekly. It's good when Bitcoin is going down, because it means that I will get some more BTC.
I remember being in old Yobit campaign and their rates were slways same - 0.0003 BTC per post and price of Bitcoin didn't affected their rates. It was same when Bitcoin was bellow $1000 and when it was close to $20 000. When they started it was low paying campaign but eventually it become to one of the highest paying campaigns. But in other campaigns which have fixed payments in BTC I noticed that when Bitcoin goes up significantly, they reduce payment rates. So, I think that in such cases it would be better to receive payments current USD value of BTC like in my current campaign.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: bitmover on October 26, 2019, 11:56:49 PM
Dont fool yourself.
If you are getting paid 0.005 BTC a week, and Bitcoin is 10k, or 8k, ir 12k, probably the payment rate will stay the same.
But if price sky rocket to 100k, your payment won't continue 0.005 (maybe only chipmixer campaign will keep payment rates, lol)
But for the rest of the campaigns, it really doesn't make much difference, as they change rates when price change.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: joniboini on October 27, 2019, 04:54:10 AM
How long this 'survey' will last?

I'm pretty sure with 1/2 pages, we'll get repetitive answers already.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: UserU on October 27, 2019, 05:25:07 AM
How long this 'survey' will last?

I'm pretty sure with 1/2 pages, we'll get repetitive answers already.

As long as the question is open-ended, we'll see streams of those.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Findingnemo on October 27, 2019, 06:58:00 AM
How long this 'survey' will last?

I'm pretty sure with 1/2 pages, we'll get repetitive answers already.
It would be better if he asked to answer a poll rather than asking for suggestions which leads to repetitive things in different ways. :D

IMO,having fixed amount of USD per week and paying it in BTC the best choice because the signature company can plan their budget accordingly and no need to keep changing the reward amount after huge bump.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on October 27, 2019, 07:35:30 AM
It's has to be a win win situation. We all want a fixed BTC campaign but if this will hurt the company that you represent because of the price of BTC that keeps on fluctuating, it would be safe for the company to offer payments equal to USD. We have to think about the campaign too, if not and we just want what we want them to pay us then more likely campaign will not last for a long period of time.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: logfiles on October 27, 2019, 07:47:37 AM
I do collect BTC just to trade and increase my portfolio so to me the USD/BTC rate doesn't really matter. It only matters for people who spend it as soon as they receive it.

Also given that we are paid weekly, even thou someone were to earn $120 worth of BTC per week and the price moved up or down by 10 percent right after we got paid, that's just + or - 12 USD which isn't so significant since sometimes the movement can be in your favor while other times not.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Willitivity on October 27, 2019, 10:25:13 AM
Even though Bitcoin is volatile, it can easily tip in either directions. But instill prefer getting paid in Bitcoin Paying in Bitcoin makes it easier for the campaign to maintain a fixed payout amount without stress. When a fixed USD rate is used, it means there will be constant calculations before payouts are made. 


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 27, 2019, 11:18:44 AM
I have already see that Fixed usd value sig campaign pay and fixed BTC.Which one i would choose? BTC for sure.Im aware on the risk but also it can possibly go either ways.
If you can handle it out then i do much prefer on receiving btc.Its up to campaign management if they do lower it since they would pay up massive amounts in usd
if they do retain to such pays.The campaign which do really impress me the most is on Chipmixer, they are fixing 0.0375 max per week no matter what would be the price.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: aTriz on October 27, 2019, 11:40:50 AM
I used to join BTC paying campaigns before. but nowadays there is not so many BTC campaigns. the few campaigns over there. but they are all full. that time I only cared about BTC amount. and that's what I would still do if I get a chance to join a BTC paying campaign.
right now I am in a token bounty signature campaign. I have no idea how much will it pay at the end. finger crossed.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: royalfestus on October 27, 2019, 12:27:43 PM
There was a time altcoins was the best reward for bounty campaign and there were cases of 2-3x on exchange listing asides the fake prices and volume that exchanges put up now. For the moment, BTC is the best payment, the most profitable and reliable coin to hold in the market, the liquidity is well assured. Participant can decied to hold reward as long as possible without fear,the confidence to hold bitcoin is higher than ever and accumulation had double,


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: DaveF on October 27, 2019, 01:20:45 PM
How long this 'survey' will last?

I'm pretty sure with 1/2 pages, we'll get repetitive answers already.

My very basic plan was to leave it open until the next big swing (up or down) and see where things went.
Also, added poll.

-Dave


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Findingnemo on October 27, 2019, 01:36:08 PM

Also, added poll.

Seems like I am the first one suggested it and also voted on it. ;)

Like I said earlier having fixed value for every week in USD will be better for BTC campaigns.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Battareus on October 27, 2019, 03:57:43 PM
I never understood the meaning of converting to dollars, if only because it is not my native currency. I know people who trading on Forex convert the balance into dollars also and trade in them. But this is a forum dedicated to Bitcoin, why there is a need to fix values in dollars. Who needs he can convert in what currency is convenient for him.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: 1Referee on October 27, 2019, 09:48:43 PM
I never understood the meaning of converting to dollars, if only because it is not my native currency. I know people who trading on Forex convert the balance into dollars also and trade in them. But this is a forum dedicated to Bitcoin, why there is a need to fix values in dollars. Who needs he can convert in what currency is convenient for him.

In every market the us dollar is the dominant and the most liquid currency, so you can understand why it's used to benchmark the value of an asset.

Another advantage of everything being calculated in us dollars is the fact that your own native fiat currency will likely lose a few percent value against the us dollar, which means that you can get more of your own native fiat currency by selling the asset you got priced against the us dollar value. It's a major win. I personally calculate everything against the us dollar even though my native fiat currency is the euro.

I always ask for payments in Bitcoin when I'm dealing with people on the internet. I'm not worried about volatility at all. I focus on the long term and hold firmly through bull and bear market.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: ralle14 on October 27, 2019, 11:25:04 PM
BTC pay rates imo are better because there are more times when the price increases after the payments are given out but as someone mentioned there's also the downside of getting less than usual if prices dips down in the wrong time. For USD pay rates it's the opposite but I like the fact that you know the specific amount you're getting every week. I remember last year when Bitcoin went down to $5000 or less there's a few campaign participants asking for a small increase.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: leowonderful on October 28, 2019, 01:55:08 AM
Most campaigns also don't raise payrates often, but I personally prefer payment calculated in just BTC as it's nice, simple and consistent for everyone, and even though it does suck to get paid in terms of dollars less when prices drop, my ultimate goal's just to stack more Bitcoin for the future more than anything, so it's not as much of a problem to me. A temporary difference of a few dollars won't matter in the future when Bitcoin moves to a price above where we're at now, though at the end of the day it's very opinionated and I suppose it just matters how you think about it.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: pooya87 on October 28, 2019, 06:35:24 AM
paying based on USD value is obviously more beneficial to the advertisers since bitcoin overall movement is rising and price keeps going higher so they will be paying less and less. conversely paying in BTC is more beneficial to the users. so obviously i prefer payment in BTC not USD equivalent.

with that said and keeping in mind that bitcoin is a currency itself and should be treated as such, i think for certain businesses it does not even make sense to pay in USD value.

we can categorize them into three:
1. a business that is running based on USD value. for example a shop selling goods that change value based on bitcoin price like steam selling games.
in this case it makes perfect sense because if price goes up, they earn less bitcoin so they can pay less bitcoin to their advertisers and vice versa.

2. a business that is running purely with bitcoin and is either not affected by its price at all or the effects are minimal. for example a gambling site or a mixing service. the former is affected a little by the price and the latter not at all.
in this case it makes no sense to pay in USD equivalent. the business is earning bitcoin and that amount is not affected by bitcoin price fluctuations. the only effect it may have is when we have a gigantic price rise like from $800 to $20,000 otherwise their revenue stays the same when price goes from $8k to $10k for example so their payment should not change.

3. like 2 but the effects are in reverse meaning if price goes up, the revenue of the business grows.
for example an exchange, when bitcoin price went from below $1k to above $10k levels their revenues (purely in bitcoin) grew a lot. these businesses paying in USD is absurd!


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: LoyceV on October 28, 2019, 10:01:35 AM
For a short-term campaign, I'd prefer a fixed amount of Bitcoin. For a long-term campaign, I don't think it's realistic to expect a fixed Bitcoin amount.
The first campaign I was in, lowered the monthly amount of Bitcoin several times during the 2017 bull run. But even after lowering it several times, the dollar equivalent was still higher than when the campaign started.
My current campaign has never changed the rates, it's fixed in Bitcoin. If it stays like that in the next bull run, it's going to be a monthly Lambo :D


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: gentlemand on October 28, 2019, 11:55:40 AM
My current campaign has never changed the rates, it's fixed in Bitcoin. If it stays like that in the next bull run, it's going to be a monthly Lambo :D

It was indeed pretty nuts during the last bull run. For a short while it paid more per week than most jobs I could find in my part of the world. If you were in somewhere in the developing world you would've easily been out earning your local judge or doctor.

I never expected any campaign to get above the equivalent of $50-100 per week in BTC or USD but plenty have.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Quidat on October 28, 2019, 02:50:52 PM
My current campaign has never changed the rates, it's fixed in Bitcoin. If it stays like that in the next bull run, it's going to be a monthly Lambo :D

It was indeed pretty nuts during the last bull run. For a short while it paid more per week than most jobs I could find in my part of the world. If you were in somewhere in the developing world you would've easily been out earning your local judge or doctor.

I never expected any campaign to get above the equivalent of $50-100 per week in BTC or USD but plenty have.
Its very rare to see campaign nowadays that do offer those high rates on a campaign.If theres one then they do have strict
requirements like merits and reputation.Even on current year signature campaign earnings are still lot more better than
on most day jobs globally coz not all living on 1st world countries that why they do find it sufficient for them.I'd accept
either btc or usd as long im earning.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: daarul50 on October 29, 2019, 04:47:05 AM
If you mean a fixed price in BTC or the respective value of X USD but in BTC, then I prefer in BTC. After all, 1 BTC = 1BTC and I like to think that I'm getting paid real BTCs for my "work" and not dollars but through BTC. Confusing? Maybe. But that's how I feel. :)

Also, probably not what you're talking about, but if I was getting paid in USD for that, I would just buy BTC right away. Pretty much all I get in this forum and other ventures is used to increase my BTC holdings.
what about this scenario :

pay rates is $50/week @0.005
3 months get paid by USD total $50x12= $600 , @0.005 x 12 = 0.06

assuming during the campaign bitcoin price dropped several times and it makes the amount of bitcoin we received a little bit increased higher.
if you get paid by USD in this scenario you probably get additional bitcoin which if you keep holding it until certain date -i would take an example when bitcoin price dropped to below $4000 at january 2019 to march 2019 and get doubled up at april to this date @$8000 , guess how much additional benefit you have received with my scenario above? of course really significant and that is why maybe i prefer with USD in hopes having extra bitcoins to hold .


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Strongkored on October 29, 2019, 05:51:37 AM
Getting payment with BTC fix rate will be very beneficial for those who choose to save their BTC for long term, will gain more USD if the BTC price goes up.
Using USD rate will make the companies that conduct campaigns will be able to do the campaign in the long run.
Company will make calculation from campaigning for their business as well as the funds that must be spent
BTC or USD is not a problem for me.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: sheenshane on October 29, 2019, 11:48:59 AM
How long this 'survey' will last?

I'm pretty sure with 1/2 pages, we'll get repetitive answers already.

My very basic plan was to leave it open until the next big swing (up or down) and see where things went.
Also, added poll.

-Dave
Hello Dave, this is just a friendly suggestion regarding your thread.
I think better you have to set a date when the deadline for the voting poll and then locking the thread.

Yes, I'm also in the campaign that you have mentioned in OP until now. The advantage that we can get in paying USD rate per week if the Bitcoin price goes down the amount of bitcoin that they will pay to participants will increase and then cash out when the price goes up. About last week's payment, I thought it will remain down but unfortunately, the price of bitcoin is at the top price button and something going down when the payment made.

There's nothing we can do. The rules were clearly stated before we dropping our application. We can simply disregard the sig campaign launching if we don't like the rule and regarding the payment. This term of payment will both company owners and participants will take advantage or disadvantage because there is fluctuation of bitcoin.



Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: STFU! on October 29, 2019, 02:43:05 PM
as far that i remember i never sign up  for signature campaign . if i had a choice i will use USD as my main payment but the bank take a big fee for charge.so  i prefer to choose BTC cause it's just more simple than feeding the bank.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: milewilda on October 29, 2019, 03:34:50 PM
If you mean a fixed price in BTC or the respective value of X USD but in BTC, then I prefer in BTC. After all, 1 BTC = 1BTC and I like to think that I'm getting paid real BTCs for my "work" and not dollars but through BTC. Confusing? Maybe. But that's how I feel. :)

Also, probably not what you're talking about, but if I was getting paid in USD for that, I would just buy BTC right away. Pretty much all I get in this forum and other ventures is used to increase my BTC holdings.
what about this scenario :

pay rates is $50/week @0.005
3 months get paid by USD total $50x12= $600 , @0.005 x 12 = 0.06

assuming during the campaign bitcoin price dropped several times and it makes the amount of bitcoin we received a little bit increased higher.
if you get paid by USD in this scenario you probably get additional bitcoin which if you keep holding it until certain date -i would take an example when bitcoin price dropped to below $4000 at january 2019 to march 2019 and get doubled up at april to this date @$8000 , guess how much additional benefit you have received with my scenario above? of course really significant and that is why maybe i prefer with USD in hopes having extra bitcoins to hold .
The good thing when you do receive on fixed btc rate is that you will able to accumulate and save up btc either you would decide to wait for price increase or would just simply
exchange or convert it directly to fiat depending to you.

When you do choose up fixed usd rate then amount of btc will always vary from time to time.When its price is high then you would receive less but if its low then you receive more.
If you do like to receive fixed usd value then this one is a better choice.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: daarul50 on October 29, 2019, 04:07:15 PM
The good thing when you do receive on fixed btc rate is that you will able to accumulate and save up btc either you would decide to wait for price increase or would just simply
exchange or convert it directly to fiat depending to you.

When you do choose up fixed usd rate then amount of btc will always vary from time to time.When its price is high then you would receive less but if its low then you receive more.
If you do like to receive fixed usd value then this one is a better choice.
that is correct , all in all whether it is by bitcoin or usd rates the both option is have its own benefit and risk mmmm....... wait i don't know if it is appropriate to call it as a risk hehe. with usd fixed payment you will have a chance to gain bitcoin feel like automatically.

or another option that riskier than the two usd & btc it is getting paid by token.
i remember IOST token signature campaign here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3170747.780 they pay you $150 perweek speculatively in IOST token while the actual price by the end of the campaign is $200 , so you have some interest automatically unexpectedly.
interesting isn't it?


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Findingnemo on October 29, 2019, 07:32:57 PM
as far that i remember i never sign up  for signature campaign . if i had a choice i will use USD as my main payment but the bank take a big fee for charge.so  i prefer to choose BTC cause it's just more simple than feeding the bank.
Guys,this is not about getting payments in USD,this is only about getting BTC in fixed value based on USD or just fixed BTC value. :)


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: gentlemand on October 29, 2019, 07:41:05 PM
Guys,this is not about getting payments in USD,this is only about getting BTC in fixed value based on USD or just fixed BTC value. :)

I wonder what the uptake would be if there was such a campaign. It would be nightmarish to operate but quite an intriguing thing to observe. Most people here are only because of the dollars anyway.

Unless you kept it to one country you'd have a full time job sending via Paypal, WU and bank transfer. At the very least it would remind people why crypto is rather nifty.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: masterzino on October 30, 2019, 12:00:03 AM
I voted for Bitcoin. Crypto prices are like a roller coaster. One week BTC will surge 20% as you've said, the next will goes down. I'm using earned coins to pay for stuff like VPN, Hosting, Content Creators, etc. It's a more important affiliate earning, signature and others to be more than my expenses, in BTC or USD :)


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Vaculin on October 30, 2019, 05:24:38 AM
BTC payment is more exciting, especially when time come that btc will pump.
I usually withdraw my earnings on a regular basis but when given a chance I would receive btc payment not pegged with usd price, I might have to employ the strategy of a trader which I would hold when the market is bearish and would only trade it when I see the price is already good.

In the early days of signature campaigns, most payments are just pure BTC, so I got used to it,


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: barota on October 30, 2019, 11:22:21 AM
sig compaign work in internet . for this reason i prefer payements via bitcoin because transaction are fast and quick
payement via usd cannot receive instanly because some bank need 48 hour and some time lot of time for sending money to their users
i think bitcoin have small fees when you sent or received


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Russlenat on October 30, 2019, 11:54:22 AM
I think majority of us would prefer BTC but if the rates are attractive like Bitsler and Bustadice, for me I am okay with usd rate.
Like my current campaign now, the rate is also good since at Hero Rank, people will be receiving 45 usd for 15 post only, that means 3 usd per post, not bad.

The best campaign in terms of btc and usd rate combine, I think there is no other than Chipmixer, it's a long time running campaign and there was no problem with the payment ever since.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Slow death on October 30, 2019, 06:38:00 PM
From what I see, the campaigns that pay in dollars are casinos and gambling sites, while the campaigns that pay in btc are mixer and exchange. I think the explanation is because thy have more customers who make deposits in dollars. so it's easier for these sites to pay in dollars, while the exchange and mixer that has customers who deposit bitcoins makes it easier to pay in bitcoin for sign campaign participants

Interestingly, this is a bitcoin forum and it would be supposed that we didn't even talk about dollars, everything should be about bitcoin. But we have to look at the companies side and respect the decisions of companies and their sign campaign managers.

I particularly have no problem receiving in dollar or bitcoin





Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Drai on November 03, 2019, 11:57:31 PM
I prefer my payment in BTC because to me it feels like a double reward (getting the BTC for the campaign and feeling like I am trading it because it might rise anytime), additionally when bitcoin enters my wallet, it hardly goes out again but when I receive USDT, I would have to exchange it to BTC which would cost me some fees.

Take for example, when I joined the present campaign that I am participating in, Bitcoin was a bit lower but it has risen quite well since then and it is predicted to rise more before the end of this month, if that happens, I would be making more money just for holding, this isn't the case with a stablecoin.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: gentlemand on November 04, 2019, 12:10:35 AM
From what I see, the campaigns that pay in dollars are casinos and gambling sites, while the campaigns that pay in btc are mixer and exchange. I think the explanation is because thy have more customers who make deposits in dollars. so it's easier for these sites to pay in dollars, while the exchange and mixer that has customers who deposit bitcoins makes it easier to pay in bitcoin for sign campaign participants.

I can't think of any crypto casino that has any dealings with dollars at all. If they did they certainly wouldn't last very long.

You're right in saying that they're far more likely to keep a USD peg than other services. Perhaps their customers are much more reactive to the USD price than other services or they themselves only think in terms of finishing up with USD so plan accordingly.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: pooya87 on November 06, 2019, 05:38:09 AM
From what I see, the campaigns that pay in dollars are casinos and gambling sites, while the campaigns that pay in btc are mixer and exchange. I think the explanation is because thy have more customers who make deposits in dollars. so it's easier for these sites to pay in dollars, while the exchange and mixer that has customers who deposit bitcoins makes it easier to pay in bitcoin for sign campaign participants

nah, its just a new thing that mainly occurs on years when market is in bull mode (meaning price is rising every month at least) and it happens for all kinds of businesses. for example if you look at all the campaigns that started this year, they are all reporting their payments in dollar terms.
example of a new mixer campaign starting last month paying in $ value: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196983.0
as i explained in my previous post, it is beneficial for businesses to pay in fixed $ value since bitcoin price is rising in long term.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Casdinyard on November 08, 2019, 02:07:17 PM
I prefer my payment in BTC because to me it feels like a double reward (getting the BTC for the campaign and feeling like I am trading it because it might rise anytime),
And we definitely hitting two birds in one stone. We all know that bitcoin fluctuate constantly and with that said payment in bitcoin help us to earn more unlike in USD payment as the value gets stagnant.

But we have to look at the companies side and respect the decisions of companies and their sign campaign managers.
And it's all up to us whether we participate ot not. I'm sure if there's only limited sig campaigns now ( just like before ) we really don't mind paying on usd ( bitcoin based price ).  ;D


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Mahanton on November 08, 2019, 03:51:59 PM
I prefer my payment in BTC because to me it feels like a double reward (getting the BTC for the campaign and feeling like I am trading it because it might rise anytime),
And we definitely hitting two birds in one stone. We all know that bitcoin fluctuate constantly and with that said payment in bitcoin help us to earn more unlike in USD payment as the value gets stagnant.

No, it doesnt get stagnant - the only difference here if you do accept on USD terms then youre safe from fluctuations, you might receive more or less in btc
and this is the advantage i do see just like what other members do tell on here.

For btc fix you can earn more in terms of usd value when the price tends to rise but also lose money or in value when it dips.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Patatas on November 08, 2019, 10:42:01 PM
Interesting thread. Most of the posters don't seem to understand what you actually meant lol

I like to get paid in a fixed USD value (like my current campaign does). This helps regardless of how the prices of bitcoins swing around. You wouldn't end up in $10 if you were supposed to get $100 per week. It could work the opposite way as well but too much risk when you're putting the work. I'm not that hungry for signature money so I'm better off getting a fixed USD-BTC converted value. This works in campaign's favor as well.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: buwaytress on November 09, 2019, 06:13:09 PM
I've always been on a signature campaign that paid in a fixed bitcoin amount, and I hope one day this will be the norm, but I do recognise that not everyone has a business than can run only on BTC when most of the economy around Bitcoin is still settled in fiat.

But I will say it was far easier to find gigs (I'm a freelancer) in the past with fixed btc price, and I even charged it in a fixed btc price, but since mid-2017 almost every gig is now priced in $, and I also submit my invoices in $.

Until I stop paying bills and rent etc in fiat, it also only makes sense to charge clients in $. It's the only way I can properly manage finances and tax.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: marcotheminer on November 09, 2019, 11:33:38 PM
I wouldn't mind it being USD pegged right now - this volatility.. Overall still prefer BTC amounts because: stack sats ??? it's more 'consistent' in a way that way too.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: imstillthebest on November 10, 2019, 11:49:28 AM
its surprising that most people here still choose btc just by basing on the poll . i thought everyone is complaining about the volatility of btc ? i even saw some complaints that people protest to be paid in a usd rate rather than btc during the continous decline happened  . for me i would also prefer to be payed by a usd rates but as long as the manager or the campaign owner wont cheap us . the volatility thing of btc makes me only stress mostly when it declines just before the time of payments .


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: UserU on November 10, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
its surprising that most people here still choose btc just by basing on the poll . i thought everyone is complaining about the volatility of btc ? i even saw some complaints that people protest to be paid in a usd rate rather than btc during the continous decline happened  . for me i would also prefer to be payed by a usd rates but as long as the manager or the campaign owner wont cheap us . the volatility thing of btc makes me only stress mostly when it declines just before the time of payments .

We're on Bitcointalk, of course the results are biased! 8)

Well, the volatility is pretty much paper loss. Even if it hits rock bottom, nothing will happen as long as we don't sell it.

On the otherhand, upward spikes keep us hyped too.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Lucius on November 10, 2019, 02:46:37 PM
the volatility thing of btc makes me only stress mostly when it declines just before the time of payments .

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose if your campaign payout is set up that way. But you shouldn't be surprised that people prefer BTC over FIAT, this is a cryptocurrency forum, and many users just hold what they earn for long-term.

It may sound weird, but I'd rather always get paid in BTC, even if campaign manager offers a much better pay rate in $. I believe that all that I earn will only increase in value with time, but I understand your frustration, it's not easy when the price drops for $1000 just before you need to get your payment.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Deathwing on November 10, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
its surprising that most people here still choose btc just by basing on the poll . i thought everyone is complaining about the volatility of btc ? i even saw some complaints that people protest to be paid in a usd rate rather than btc during the continous decline happened  . for me i would also prefer to be payed by a usd rates but as long as the manager or the campaign owner wont cheap us . the volatility thing of btc makes me only stress mostly when it declines just before the time of payments .


Volatility is not always a negative factor. If you were receiving $100 per week in January for a total of one month and you wanted to sell it today, not too long, just 11 months of HODLing you would get more than double the amount of USD you were paid. And I stretched the timeframe a bit too much, even if you just look at the last few weeks when BTC suddenly reached $10k, you were still profiting off of your October signature campaign payments.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: TRONTON on November 12, 2019, 10:09:40 AM
I don't mind if they use one of these two types of payments, I also see from the distribution team's point of view that if the BTC goes up sharply, they will make sudden calculations to keep it smooth in payment. in this case it is better to use USD rather than reduce the nominal payment of BTC participants, unless they do have other reasons. it is only intended for efficiency.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: webtricks on November 14, 2019, 04:51:09 PM
From what I see, the campaigns that pay in dollars are casinos and gambling sites, while the campaigns that pay in btc are mixer and exchange. I think the explanation is because thy have more customers who make deposits in dollars. so it's easier for these sites to pay in dollars, while the exchange and mixer that has customers who deposit bitcoins makes it easier to pay in bitcoin for sign campaign participants

Which crypto casino accepts payment in Dollars? None in my view. I recently used Playbetr and it uses Dollar as the site currency but still deposits/withdrawals are done in cryptocurrencies. Site converts the amount to dollars at the time of deposit and withdrawal.
On the contrary, I think casinos require bigger crypto reserves than exchanges or mixer since they have bankroll to maintain.
The only reason why I think some campaigns pay in dollars is because they want to maintain the expenditures at fix rate which is not possible due to high volatility of Bitcoin. So for campaigns which have established businesses and running long, it is easy to pay in dollars for the maintenance of books.

I particularly have no problem receiving in dollar or bitcoin

Actually I do. Receiving campaign payments in dollar equivalent deprives participants to make profits from compounding effect.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Chrystora123 on November 14, 2019, 05:27:30 PM
I noticed that 98% member commenting on this topic are signature hunters paid BTC..  Personally I prefer a signature campaign with paid Bitcoin than USD, although sometimes the rate changes, it doesn't matter to me.

It may sound weird, but I'd rather always get paid in BTC, even if campaign manager offers a much better pay rate in $. I believe that all that I earn will only increase in value with time, but I understand your frustration, it's not easy when the price drops for $1000 just before you need to get your payment.
I think the same as you.. I'm sure the Bitcoin that I get, its value will increase over time.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: TinaK on November 14, 2019, 06:30:39 PM
I noticed that 98% member commenting on this topic are signature hunters paid BTC..  Personally I prefer a signature campaign with paid Bitcoin than USD, although sometimes the rate changes, it doesn't matter to me.

It may sound weird, but I'd rather always get paid in BTC, even if campaign manager offers a much better pay rate in $. I believe that all that I earn will only increase in value with time, but I understand your frustration, it's not easy when the price drops for $1000 just before you need to get your payment.
I think the same as you.. I'm sure the Bitcoin that I get, its value will increase over time.

I suggest not only you everyone to prefer the BTC payment. USD price will never change at the time of price dump we may agree USD but always BTC is the best choice for everyone.
I love to have the bitcoin payment like we were getting payment in 2016 and 2017. It's was a golden year for signature campaign users.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: gentlemand on November 14, 2019, 08:41:20 PM
I suggest not only you everyone to prefer the BTC payment. USD price will never change at the time of price dump we may agree USD but always BTC is the best choice for everyone.
I love to have the bitcoin payment like we were getting payment in 2016 and 2017. It's was a golden year for signature campaign users.

This thread isn't about USD payment which would be not too far off impossible. It's about whether you want a USD peg.

I'm sure the uptake for something paid in USD would be upsettingly high. Ain't gonna happen though.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: DeathProxy on November 15, 2019, 01:25:57 PM
I prefer receiving my payment in BTC.  Its true sometimes that btc is volatile and can fluctuate but stil yet on the other hand its also likely to pump also giving you addional dollar once it pumps. Couple with the fact that i trade BTC also, it will.be much easier for me that once i receive my signature payment in BTC i easily have to set my trade target without necessarily having to go through the stress of converting my usdt to fait before trading


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: kotwica666 on November 17, 2019, 04:37:14 PM
I don't really understand what this discussion is for!
This is a Bitcoin forum, not a USD forum, right?
Payments should always be in Bitcoin or in other cryptocurrencies (centralized tokens are not cryptocurrency! ;) )
And now to calm everyone down. Always, with big price changes, the rates per post or per week were adjusted, so it really doesn't matter. (Camapaign owner almost always prepare budget based on fiat, so behind the curtain it is adjusted anyway)
But when it comes to rules, in my opinion we should stay only with BTC.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: virasog on November 17, 2019, 05:46:45 PM
I don't really understand what this discussion is for!
This is a Bitcoin forum, not a USD forum, right?
Payments should always be in Bitcoin or in other cryptocurrencies (centralized tokens are not cryptocurrency! ;) )
And now to calm everyone down. Always, with big price changes, the rates per post or per week were adjusted, so it really doesn't matter. (Camapaign owner almost always prepare budget based on fiat, so behind the curtain it is adjusted anyway)
But when it comes to rules, in my opinion we should stay only with BTC.

Since the bitcoin price is not stable and in most cases it increases, the companies prefer to pay in USD (converted to btc), so their budget is not disturbed by the bitcoin instability. However, the signature campaigns participants including myself prefer to get payment in BTC.
Also the pool results shows that only 6 people have voted for the favor of USD till now.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Findingnemo on November 17, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
Also the pool results shows that only 6 people have voted for the favor of USD till now.
Many people don't understand USD means, fixed USD value which converted into btc at the time of payment so they simply pick BTC as their choice. :)

Okay, let's come into the conclusion whichever pay is high then people will prefer it. ;D


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: milewilda on November 17, 2019, 07:17:59 PM
Also the pool results shows that only 6 people have voted for the favor of USD till now.
Many people don't understand USD means, fixed USD value which converted into btc at the time of payment so they simply pick BTC as their choice. :)

Okay, let's come into the conclusion whichever pay is high then people will prefer it. ;D
As i said earlier, they wouldnt really mind much as long they do able to receive bitcoin in the end of the day.
There are advantages though which tied up on the movement of btc price.If its usd fixed then you can either
receive more or less depending on the price when payout does happen.Unlike on btc fix where it will always
differ on usd value depending on the price of that moment.So either way you'll still receive btc. lol


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: pixie85 on November 17, 2019, 10:04:32 PM
I suggest not only you everyone to prefer the BTC payment. USD price will never change at the time of price dump we may agree USD but always BTC is the best choice for everyone.
I love to have the bitcoin payment like we were getting payment in 2016 and 2017. It's was a golden year for signature campaign users.

This thread isn't about USD payment which would be not too far off impossible. It's about whether you want a USD peg.

I'm sure the uptake for something paid in USD would be upsettingly high. Ain't gonna happen though.

It seems most people who posted and voted here don't get it because there's more than twice as many votes for BTC.

USD peg is just better in every aspect because when the price is in an uptrend you can hold your payments and still profit. The only downside is that you can't convert at the time of payment but wait for a few days or weeks. In a downtrend you can sell after receiving it and always get the same amount despite Bitcoin being worth less every week.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: kotwica666 on November 18, 2019, 11:40:48 AM
I suggest not only you everyone to prefer the BTC payment. USD price will never change at the time of price dump we may agree USD but always BTC is the best choice for everyone.
I love to have the bitcoin payment like we were getting payment in 2016 and 2017. It's was a golden year for signature campaign users.

This thread isn't about USD payment which would be not too far off impossible. It's about whether you want a USD peg.

I'm sure the uptake for something paid in USD would be upsettingly high. Ain't gonna happen though.

It seems most people who posted and voted here don't get it because there's more than twice as many votes for BTC.

USD peg is just better in every aspect because when the price is in an uptrend you can hold your payments and still profit. The only downside is that you can't convert at the time of payment but wait for a few days or weeks. In a downtrend you can sell after receiving it and always get the same amount despite Bitcoin being worth less every week.

I think most people understood that, they just didn't mention it in their posts.
I wrote earlier that I prefer rates to be set in BTC, because this is a BTC forum and not USD.
When it comes to rates adjustment, I also wrote about it earlier that the campaign budget is usually set in fiat money, so in the case of a large change in price the rates are adjusted by the campaign owner anyway, so it does not matter in the long run.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on November 21, 2019, 03:13:33 AM
I noticed that 98% member commenting on this topic are signature hunters paid BTC..  Personally I prefer a signature campaign with paid Bitcoin than USD, although sometimes the rate changes, it doesn't matter to me.

It may sound weird, but I'd rather always get paid in BTC, even if campaign manager offers a much better pay rate in $. I believe that all that I earn will only increase in value with time, but I understand your frustration, it's not easy when the price drops for $1000 just before you need to get your payment.
I think the same as you.. I'm sure the Bitcoin that I get, its value will increase over time.

Probably 100% will favor btc payment as its price will grow exponentially over time and every one joining btc paid knows this. I can choose USD payment as well but I dont think they will offer it here( maybe few not sure). We dont know when the price of btc can go up and down but signature participants can benefited from holding it. All of my btc coming from sig camp are well keep and will only cash out it in due time.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: andycarrol on November 26, 2019, 05:08:06 AM
I noticed that 98% member commenting on this topic are signature hunters paid BTC..  Personally I prefer a signature campaign with paid Bitcoin than USD, although sometimes the rate changes, it doesn't matter to me.

It may sound weird, but I'd rather always get paid in BTC, even if campaign manager offers a much better pay rate in $. I believe that all that I earn will only increase in value with time, but I understand your frustration, it's not easy when the price drops for $1000 just before you need to get your payment.
I think the same as you.. I'm sure the Bitcoin that I get, its value will increase over time.

Probably 100% will favor btc payment as its price will grow exponentially over time and every one joining btc paid knows this. I can choose USD payment as well but I dont think they will offer it here( maybe few not sure). We dont know when the price of btc can go up and down but signature participants can benefited from holding it. All of my btc coming from sig camp are well keep and will only cash out it in due time.

that's one of the reasons to prefer bitcoin, I don't make withdrawals every week. Pay with Bitcoin for long-term investment or collect as much bitcoin as possible from a signature campaign. we don't have a problem with change, because actually we will never lose, and I'm sure the long-term bitcoin will always increase and it's the right time for me to sell everything.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: boris singer on November 26, 2019, 03:48:50 PM
It's nice to be paid with BTC now because the price is affordable, but if BTC suddenly increases to $ 20-30k, I think the campaign will end quickly because their budget has exploded.

I'm not talking about the budget capabilities of the campaign team concerned, but if the team wants long-term resilience that is planned, USD is the solution.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: Mahanton on November 28, 2019, 05:11:00 PM
It's nice to be paid with BTC now because the price is affordable, but if BTC suddenly increases to $ 20-30k, I think the campaign will end quickly because their budget has exploded.
The campaign will end if the budget (fund) is already finished. Have you see when there is new signature campaign appear then the funds was gave to the escrow? Which mean developer has gave money/btc to run signature campaign for x weeks with x funds. Unless, the developer give money fiat and the campaign participant was paid in btc so the reason as you thinking it could be right.
On some signature where it do depends because not all signature campaign funds would really be held on an escrow address because as i have observed on most cases the team itself are the ones who would pay  up the funds which means theres no specific address for you to check about.It all matters with some risk factor but somewhat you can go along nor would be confident is the said campaign is being handled by a reputable manager which you can somewhat assure that it would pay up.On the budget we do talk then it would most likely matter on usd value thats why theres such changes anytime on the day of the payup of salary.


Title: Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC
Post by: CodyAlfaridzi on November 29, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
I used to like being paid by constant BTC value because I planned to just hold instead of spending it. Now that I often sell my BTC (and BTC value is kinda tanking lol) I think I like it to be pegged to USD as it will give you a rather consistent income stream, especially in times like this when BTC can easily swing from $11K - $7K range.

I guess the answer will mostly depend on what you're planning to do with the payment: if you plan to hold it as BTC, BTC payment would be great. But if you want to sell it to fiat or spend it then USD-peg payment would be favorable.