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Q2C, Qubitcoin has an invite (winning polls) to go onto new exchanges, but the dev is in Ukraine and has some personal problem.

The coin has novel hash and works extremely well (BTCtalk thread is 175 pages after a few weeks, so there is a substantial community). If you want a finger in this pie, go to the Q2c thread and check it out. The price is pretty bombed out now, and has been taken down with a lot of the other also-rans.

This one has the makings of another Quark (check the history of that before it x500 in Nov), for several other reasons as well.

Support for Qubitcoin. Qubitcoin has great potential. Also one advice you should move this topic to altcoin section not at altcoin announcement. And you should mention Qubitcoin in the name of topic.

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i also think that this coin has potentisl, and because of current situation, is pretty undervalued, but with strong comunity support, and some fresh blood, sky is the limit.

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Qubitcoin has a huge potential. Everything is working smooth but there has to be a developer to communicate with exchanges, promote coin and deal with eventual problems. Community is also really great and supportive - just look at the votes on Mintpal.com. You will see that very little votes were payed unlike the other coins and Q2C is still in the top 8.  

What's the present stage of Q2C?

I have some Q2C as I'm the early miner.

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Can you clarify why opportunity?
Why a Pro Dev would mind? You people have the coins... previous dev ran away... a Pro Dev must already know a lot about making a coin or he is useless... so no learning, no power, no coins... where is the opportunity?
I am not trolling... I am asking... to evaluate my interest.

I am just flying a kite to see what reaction I get: thanks for yours !

 I am also in a learning curve.

You see, I believe the whole alt. market is due for a big shake down (or up, whatever). I have investors who are looking to get into situations, and before committing funds I am trying to evaluate what life there is in each technically viable coin.

Opportunity - because that new dev will have an opportunity to gain large chunk of Qubitcoins once he proves that he is serious. That would be a motivation for him also to promote Qubit. Nobody would work for free and people understand that...

I see.
Almost any coin is " technically viable" on launch... community and branding will make the difference latter...

Now is clear for me... you see, lots of people around this forum think that a Pro Dev able to improve a coin must do it just to get good vibes from people making money with that coin... its very funny.
I will care to look at Github and try to compile wallets for 3 main systems...


 

What needs to be done? :)

First of all this guy from Bittrex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252559) exchange need to be contacted so he can add Q2C to the exchange.
Here is his message:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411065.msg5716335#msg5716335

In a week or so Q2C should be on mintpal and I'm sure they will want to speak with developer.
Also official site need to be updated http://www.q2c.cc/

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Me again...

Linux wallet compiled without problem... syncing now...

GJxXVbdkNP3bdEVvxvPww7gDEz7aon6JGA  - can someone send me 10 Q2C to play around some tests?

Disappointed with wallet... good graphics everywhere so I was expecting same on wallet.

Anyone can update OP on forum? Anyone has control of domain?

Community seems good... but why so little trading?

I've sent you 100 Q2C.

I don't know if anyone but Krecu (old developer) has access to official domain. There is a fan page http://qubitcoin.net/wordpress/ . Maybe we can use it as official page. I see it is being updated with latest info so someone in here must have access to it.

Trading volume was around 4-5 BTC per 24h (sometimes more) on https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_q2c . It went down after the last block reward halving.

+1 and willing to donate.  :)

perhaps we / i can help with some stuff?! I'm not a wallet developert... but have some other development and hosting skills.
We have created http://free-q2c.mine-coin.de to support the coin.  

Received. Thank you.
OSX wallet compiled and in sync.

Everything seems usable until now. And more than that, I feel good with the stuff. Code is clean and I have origin of spin off on my archives. I can step in if community really wants it and support it.
Community seems alive and kicking. I have more connected peers with q2c than with doge... wow this doge!
Question is what you want to do with this coin... coin is almost fully mined... then what next? I think life cycle is unrealistic: you cant half a coin reward every 3 weeks starting with 2048... even every 3 months would be too much...
So what you, the community,  want from a new dev?

 :-*  11111111111111111111

i suppose that one idea could be to change halving time at next interval, when coins per block be 128, and we could use more optimisations of the wallet, it tends to stop syncing after while while and you have to close it and run again, then also  i guess some optimisations between wallet and pool mining,  and in global sense that coin have an active dev or devs, in a combination with good comunity gives other ppl more confidence into our coin.

About changes:  I can code whatever community decides to use. If you people want me to grow back block reward to 1024 and triple total coins created I surely can do that. It will be applied when community adopt new wallet as good.
About the wallet: I have Linux and OSX wallets running without any issue (any of them in 2 different cpus [one virtual, one real]  and using my new clean safe builds from source on github) until this moment (may crash next second of course... its software...).
Are you reporting about Windows? Its a known fact that some windows builds had problems when using some LTC spin off time ago as this coin is made... (doge was one of them as I was told... I never use windows except for full hard testing of my work) because built over some buggy dependencies. Strange your dev didn't spot and change that... as far as I can evaluate for now he was good...
About active devs: when I am dev coder I code. I mean,  I have better things to do than discuss lines with someone. If community decides I am the coder then I will be the coder. When community decides to change mind they just don't download wallet they don't like... simple. Usually so called devs don't say this... but its the reality: imagine you community tell me I am new dev and I decide to code that reward goes to 10000... if no one download that new wallet it will not happen - simple.
About optimizations: a good optimization  takes lots of time and testing (a millisecond today, ten milliseconds tomorrow - you learn that after coding for aviation soft). If I understood what you talking about, lets put that on 4th or 5th place in our list.
About global sense of existing a dev... who controls twitter, forum, site, whatever? Everything must be changed/moved or it will be just a joke.
I must say I used my answer to your post to clarify my global vision about everything involved. Thank you for helping me do that.

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yes, im talking about windows wallet, and i think that many ppl use those. about  those optimisations, i agree that they should go somewhere around the list.
also if we do thist, we will open new thread on bitcointalk (existing one have to many pages alreadu), and make twitter, site and all else what we are supposed to, to spread a word about qubit. we also have an oportunity to be listed on new market, Bittrex, and guy who runs it wanted to speak with dev,  and i think that  more markets, more ppl will see and spread the coin.
about the changes in reward, that is something which may be discussed with comunity, if something like that would benefit coin.

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i suppose that one idea could be to change halving time at next interval, when coins per block be 128, and we could use more optimisations of the wallet, it tends to stop syncing after while while and you have to close it and run again, then also  i guess some optimisations between wallet and pool mining,  and in global sense that coin have an active dev or devs, in a combination with good comunity gives other ppl more confidence into our coin.
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About changes:  I can code whatever community decides to use. If you people want me to grow back block reward to 1024 and triple total coins created I surely can do that. It will be applied when community adopt new wallet as good.
About the wallet: I have Linux and OSX wallets running without any issue (any of them in 2 different cpus [one virtual, one real]  and using my new clean safe builds from source on github) until this moment (may crash next second of course... its software...).
Are you reporting about Windows? Its a known fact that some windows builds had problems when using some LTC spin off time ago as this coin is made... (doge was one of them as I was told... I never use windows except for full hard testing of my work) because built over some buggy dependencies. Strange your dev didn't spot and change that... as far as I can evaluate for now he was good...
About active devs: when I am dev coder I code. I mean,  I have better things to do than discuss lines with someone. If community decides I am the coder then I will be the coder. When community decides to change mind they just don't download wallet they don't like... simple. Usually so called devs don't say this... but its the reality: imagine you community tell me I am new dev and I decide to code that reward goes to 10000... if no one download that new wallet it will not happen - simple.
About optimizations: a good optimization  takes lots of time and testing (a millisecond today, ten milliseconds tomorrow - you learn that after coding for aviation soft). If I understood what you talking about, lets put that on 4th or 5th place in our list.
About global sense of existing a dev... who controls twitter, forum, site, whatever? Everything must be changed/moved or it will be just a joke.
I must say I used my answer to your post to clarify my global vision about everything involved. Thank you for helping me do that.

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Thanks for that .. I think, judging by the upvotes, the community approves you as the developer coder !

 As I see it, the community has  decisions to make in several areas: 

1. Marketing /Media.. Who runs Twitter, BTCtalk thread, alternative new forum. Who will step up for those ?

2. Image and wallet software. The 'Cube' logo is good and very distinctive. The wallet might benefit from a little graphical tweaking.

3. Coding for a fork : block reward and any other issues.


IMO the wallet and code for blocks are functional and have some degree of optimisation, so do not warrant messing with first... unless that is required to get the coin onto new exchanges (was that a sticking issue or not ?.. I am not technically competent to answer)

Begin with a new forum if someone has the experience to run it.

As far as longer term block reward goes, from my own experience, I believe that the current 128 is fine (because the community holders can fund projects and redistribute existing coin) but the halving should be of a longer period now, like 3 months. An inflation of 5% permanently will not hurt, because this is a model that other coins have eschewed, and it separates Q2C from the others. I have 30 years experience in financial industries and will gladly debate and inform on this point.

I must disagree with above block reward and block halving statement. You should not change anything. Everything works fine. If you change block reward to 2048 or 1024 90% of qubit holders will sell coins and go to another coin including me. I agree about wallet. Everything works fine currently we just need someone who will fix few thing,promote coin and just be active...there is no need for changing the code.

+1  OK, I will agree with that. Change as little as possible, only what is needed... the code is the coin, and it is proven.

I also think that we shouldn't change (increase) block reward, just prolong the time between reward halving. If block reward goes up now, coin value will go down for sure. Right now we need a person (or more then one person) who will update/redo the website, communicate with exchanges regarding technical stuff, promote coin so more and more people get involved.

New services like buying steam codes directly with Q2C (Kahir's idea) will increase the value of the coin because it is being used somewhere other then exchange.

We could have a group of people which would be assigned for certain area, just like Majormax said:
- Coding nymusr
- Marketing /Media.. Who runs Twitter, BTCtalk thread, alternative new forum - ?
- Graphics, web design and other stuff - ?
- Services (something like Kahir's idea) - ?

+1  I totally agree with you!

what the news that you want told me?

The present block reward do not incite miner to come : and good global hash rate is required for POW coin.
The popularity of a coin require a widespread distribution. Going back to something like 512 /block could help.

If you -the holders- were unwilling to accept some loss at first due to better block reward, I believe the coin would die ... and you would loose all at the end.

It's always a battle between miners (short term profit) and holders (long term faith and loyalty).

Miners are not all motivated by instant money (the ones that are cause coins to be wildly volatile and unstable), if they were, Bitcoin could never exist.

512 block reward is too much in my opinion. If block reward goes up now, coin value will go down for sure and we dont want that to happen because price is already on low level. 256/128 is acceptable and fine. When qubit was launched we mined with cpu,now with this diff and with gpu miner you can easily mine 50-100k in a week.

+1 for nymusr as Q2C dev!  ;D

About the discussion for the next block reward: What about implementing a voting system like the one on HeavyCoin?
It would be much work, but at least the whole community could deciced about the next reward.
What do you think, nymusr?

Starting my day now... getting coffee, booting my computers, reading emails and such kind of things... I will be back here soon when fully awake.

Great to see this coin getting more interest and community building up, I run www.qubitcoin.net and have always said from the start its the communities site, I also have access to the twitter, google and facebook accounts. I also would be interested in getting more involved with the new team. To be honest I appreciate the work krecu put into the coin but was turned off with what seamed like early involvers just wanting donations. I also contacted Krecu when the front page changed about the site and social accounts, with no response back, so i became disinterested, but continued to update site. Having said that, i am encouraged with the new group and can do all to help.

Qubitcoin.net was started early on when it looked like everyone wanted a site, but know one wanted to create one with out a large reward. It on my server and i have the domain name and need no donations. I created it for the community and it yours if needed, I will host it for as long as its useful and does not inter-fear with my server. The site was created with wordpress just for convince and gets a about 150 new visitors a day being listed on top of google. Site is also translated into 150 plus languages using a translator addon. All of the social media links listed on the site were created at time of site and can also be accessed.

Community can contact me here and I can help you move forward in any way you see fit. PM me and i can send you an email or contact over phone if in the US.

Ahha

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Community must decide 3 things:
Am I approved as dev? What if, tomorrow old dev appears (after forum, twitter, github, site and whatever changes)?
If so I want to be able to have full access to every community anchor (site, twitter, forum, etc). And yes I have no problem that someone else have same access level...

What is your final will about reward value and halving? I see miners and holders around... can they agree on a solution? 
If so you/we must decide what are the goals... a bit far from being listed on next exchange platform...

Who will fund my efforts and what powers will you give me? Am I a rented coder able to speak to community or do you give me the authority to be also a full coordinator?
As said before I don't live on good vibes, approval or love. Even less when people are targeting on making money/coins.

Note 1: My first language is not english as you surely noticed. If you want me around you must be able to forgive my broken english. And when appropriate (I mean official posting) proof reading it.
Note 2: I thing branding is essential for cryptos. This is a first try on cosmetic side :

http://nymusr.com/bitcointalk/q2cw.png

Humm...
Checked Q2C main post.
Its seems community doubts about the need of a new dev... I really don't want to impose my self.
You people decide.
 

Top of Main post list:

Qubitcoin Foundation Community members:
@Krecu, @Aseron, @Lugren, @Featon, @jackthecoiner

They have all checked out, coin need a fresh blood and new prospective.

I approve.. and I cannot see anyone against . The following speaks for the community, if agreed or disagreed, please post accordingly.

Straw poll on block reward checks out for no change.

Goals : plenty on the old thread, but need restatement.

Funding:  Invite donations to start, and let's see who is serious. I will begin with 100k of Q2C, and another 100k in 1 month if it seems to me something is going on. If you have specific requirements, please make them known. This venture is not certain to make money, so you must be prepared to take some chance: on that score, you would be a full co-ordinator.

I will proof read documents if you alert me to them.

I will add a poll here shortly.

So what you suggest me to do?
I am only answering to an "Opportunity for a competent developer..." post... Everything else must be community to decide.

I approve.. and I cannot see anyone against . Opened a poll here..The following speaks for the community, if agreed or disagreed, please post accordingly.

Straw poll on block reward checks out for no change. Will poll this after the first vote.

Goals : plenty on the old thread, but need restatement.

Funding:  Invite donations to start, and let's see who is serious. I will begin with 100k of Q2C, and another 100k in 1 month if it seems to me something is going on. If you have specific requirements, please make them known. This venture is not certain to make money, so you must be prepared to take some chance: on that score, you would be a full co-ordinator.

I will proof read documents if you alert me to them.

I have had another PM from a potential dev. Please can community comment on this...

...'' You seem to have made a choice already so good luck with that --- but if it doesn't work out, I'd be prepared to mind the store until krecu gets back and in the meantime, work with you+community to set up a more sustainable basis for engineering maintenance of the coin.

If you want to chat more, my email address is....''

I think the main issue is to get new Dev together with Bittrex.com so they can list the coin
I can work with anyone wanting get website and socials working together and updating.
Logo's need to be refreshed (not design it to established already), but updated and some headers and promo graphics
If anyone can update the main thread that would also be a great start.

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100k right away and 100k when we see some results.

+1, too.
Will also give 100k for the start and another 100k after positive results.

We also have to check whether we can get access to the OP of the main Q2C thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411065.msg4451466#msg4451466
There are some news (faucet, exchanges) that MUST be listed on the OP.

Either the admin or a mod of bitcointalk.org has to give some of us the right to modify the OP or we have to start a new thread for Q2C.
I think, either nymusr (in case he wants to work for Q2C) or a shared bitcointalk.org account should then create the new thread.

I like the modified look of the wallet. It will be really good to have some distinctive graphics with a upgraded wallet.

Also, from the poll it seems you are approved by the community.. I will leave it open for a few more days.

Bittrex has launched Q2C market today

OK,I think I will go to see

show my support

I have some questions about wallet and network:

When was number of coins changed to 500 millions? (asking because version info on github not being used so I am unable to find it)
Why was Kimoto Gravity Well disabled?
Who is admin of http://pool.q2c.cc ?

1. I personally do not like this idea, but such a decision should be taken all together.
2  Kresu disabled it. Because a failure has occurred with this protocol and Kresu could not fix it.
3. Kresu. This is his pool.

What is not satisfied with the current number of coins? Why it is necessary to increase?

Totally agree,that will absolutely destroy this coin and its price. I think that code doesnt need any tweaking, currently everything works fine. Every new miner can mine with one gpu approx 3-4-5k q2c per day so I don't like idea for block reward increasing and max supply changing.

The son asks his father-programmer:
- Dad, why the sun always rises in the east and sets in the west?
- To the east rises?
- Yes ...
- To the west sits?
- Well, yes ...
- And that always so?
- Always.
- Did you check?
- Tested ...
- Son, just do not touch anything ...

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Number of coins Already changed to 500 mil... It is already done... dev (Kresu) did it (you can check it by your self visiting https://github.com/qubitcoin/QubitCoin/blob/master/src/main.h (https://github.com/qubitcoin/QubitCoin/blob/master/src/main.h) and then searching  for MAX_MONEY = 500000000 * COIN - its there on line 51 (maybe dev forgot to tell  you that)
2. I see... will check...
3. It explains why wrong number of coins

Thank you for your answers.

I see. It's a surprise...
I think it needs to be fixed

Don't worry about that...

2048 * 60480 123 863 040 in 21 days
1024 * 60480  61 931 520 in 21 days
 512 * 60480  30 965 760 in 21 days
 256 * 60480  15 482 880 in 21 days
 128 * 60480   7 741 440 in 21 days
  64 * 60480   3 870 720 in 21 days
  32 * 60480   1 935 360 in 21 days
  16 * 60480     967 680 in 21 days
   8 * 60480     483 840 in 21 days
   4 * 60480     241 920 in 21 days
   2 * 60480     120 960 in 21 days
             247 605 120 after 231 days
and
(original) ending with:
   1 for about 831 days
or
(new) ending with:
   1 for about 5000 days

No one cares: 831 days on cryptos it is eternity; 5000 is mega eternity++ v2

I just asked because I was surprised to find that...

I think we must change time of block reward halving.

Maybe every 8 weeks (2 months) or three months? This period of halvig is kinda fast and BR will be 1 in August already.

I totally agree.

not really I like these digressions I like those agonizing, maybe guys think about the people who put a lot of energy in digging current coins, rather than combine as easily earn some extra money here, maybe one and the other to buy something for poloniexie ... odd going on Head coiny cents worth and you are only talking about .. and the price of licking the floor

q2c requires amendments are unquestionable, but did not change the whole code!

Come to your senses people want q2c are welcome to poloniex .. actually it is very cheap

I categorically do not support for such drastic changes in coin code!

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You want Q2C? Go to Poloniex and buy it!

Now tell me if you were someone who doesn't have any Qubitcoins or any altcoins, why would you buy Q2C? How is Qubitcoin different than any other coin? The only thing you can do with all altcoins is to go to some exchange and buy Bitcoin (Litecoin). Only then you can either go on some site which accepts bitcoin and buy something or get the cash trough the bank.

Since the coin started we were practically missing developer's efforts to push the coin and make it popular as much as it could be. The coin went through 3 halving and popularity was not following this halving pace as is should - to make it attractive to more and more people or to the same bunch of people, at least. Now all this need to be leveled out and that means finding acceptable solution which will keep the miners and prevent holders from selling their coins. Maybe extend the 256 coins block award period to 2 months until everything catches up and then continue with planned (original) halving.

If we think of something that will make Qubit stick out (out of all these altcoins), I'm sure its popularity and price will go up really quick. There was an idea from Kahir but it looked like people were not interested (although idea seemed really good). I know everyone is here for the money and if we want this coin to be successful than we all need to make an effort - not just passively watch everything that's happening, hoping that it will resolve on its own. Whoever is interested in this coin should help however he can. By helping community you are helping this coin thus helping yourself (coin will be more valuable - you make more money).

Oк.
A few questions for you:

1. What do you think, why the Quark having the same number of coins and the award for the block is still alive? What is the secret?

I think the point in the development of the coin itself, in its popularity and applicability, and not award a block. Always increase the number of coins only leads to inflation and cost reduction.

2. What do you say after two months? "Umm ... guys, let's increase the number of coins in half again?"

I know you think that in two months we will gain time and have time to open new services. But the secret is that the development of coins, opening new services and implementing the ideas do not need to touch the code! Let's do it now all together without regard to the number of coins in the block!

Increases the number of coins we make a big mistake, destroy people's TRUST in the coin. What think the holders and potential investors?
"Yesterday was 248 million coins, tomorrow there will be 512 that these guys can still throw?" "How can we trust them when they keep changing the rules of the game?" "A month later they will make 100 billion coins and then how much will cost one million Q2C, which I want to buy?" "It's too risky!"

With the reduction of awards for unit, created shortage of coins, in the current situation this may play into our hands. This could potentially allow to have time for the development and discovery of new coins services.

For the development of coins do not need to touch the code! Engage PR, offering a coin exchanges, open shops and services! The more people know about the coin the better!

Sorry for my english

Fine by me   ;D

This poll has been open for almost a week now so I suggest we close it at 8pm (GMT) today. I think this is more than enough time even for those people who are not so active on this forum.

Agree.. Closing tonight then.

This poll is bullshit.

Yes, could well be. I read your comments in the main thread.


I don't have the resources or skills to do any more now.