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Basic attention token also allows to tip content creators. But it offers much more than Dogecoin (e.g. a new advertising system).

What do you guys think? Can DOGE and BAT coexist (e.g. due to different user groups) or will BAT make DOGE obsolete?

Not BAT but brave browser is doing that kind of promotion and they just using BAT token to tips creators website owner and  publishers .

About doge the value is too low right now but coins is mostly use for donation.

doge and BAT will coexist. because these two coins have different markets. although it seems that these two coins have the same function, but I'm sure that can happen. the reason is easy, you can see from fees transaction. BAT is one of the ERC20 and it is very influential on GAS. ethereum networks are sometimes very annoying at certain times because they can increase the cost of GAS. doge is different, the transfer fee is cheap and fast, this is an irreplaceable advantage.

Too low for what, tipping?  Also, doge is trading at a relatively high price compared to where it usually does, and I'm talking in terms of bitcoin.  It was at 33 sats just recently, and it traditionally trades in the 20's. 

I'm not sure how popular tipping is anyway, so this question posed by op is kind of a false choice.  I don't know much about BAT but I don't think any coin that's either on the market or potentially coming to market will be able to kill off doge entirely.  People who support dogecoin are fairly passionate about it and have been for years.  And it does make a good coin for tipping regardless of the price or any other factor.  I don't think the world really needs another coin made for tipping. 

Look at what happened to reddcoin.  It's now in permanent maintenance mode on yobit and is trading for 10 sats.  It was supposed to be reddit's big tipping coin if I'm not mistaken, but there was no interest in it.

BAT and DOGE are somewhat different crypto since BAT was designed as a token to support BRAVE browser's digital advertising platform while DOGE was created as a meme coin in the spirit of crypto enthusiasm!

Also, both have distinct community of supporters and in this sense, I think they are not in direct competition to each other but rather could co-exist harmoniously within cryptosphere. Imho.

BAT offers more than doge caused by there was an active developer are still developing the BAT platform while doge has no developer to continue the development progress to create an innovation use doge
That doesn't make sense to create a comparison between doge and BAT. But doge seems to be a winner in this case caused by even without the support from the developer and so many people are still using it. Doge and BAT have a different purpose and both can't co-exist.

BAT will not make DOGE becomes obsolete and the fact that most of the people are still using doge as a crypto to be used to tip others or something else. You must not create a comparison based on how its platform is supporting such a token but you must consider all of the aspects.

from the beginning doge did not have serious development. Initially these coins existed only as jokes for bitcoin. so we won't be able to compare coins that have a serious team and goal with coins that are just for fun.

but even so, I agree with you that the doge will never be obsolete and irreplaceable.

You are making a very huge leap simply because of one single fact that could even be insignificant to the main and actual use of BAT. BAT is used for tipping. DOGE is also used for tipping. And so they must be serving the same purpose? Is this the way your logic goes? If that is your logic, you are wrong. BAT is not created for this. The project is focused on ads. DOGE was created for whatever you fancy. And the tipping of BAT is only happening on the brave browser. It is not happening everywhere.

DOGE is also being used for gambling purposes if I may add, so there's no direct competition and I don't know where the OP can say that BAT is the DOGE killer.

DOGE has been in the crypto sphere for so long, and I don't think it can have some kind of competition here. So the answer is NO, BAT is not in any shape or form could be categorically be a DOGE killer, actually no coin that I can think it will stop DOGE. BAT has it's own purpose as others have pointed out.

Doge is a meme coin while BAT is created for tipping and incentivizing people. Both of them have a different class to begin with, there is no way BAT will replace Dogecoin if both of them are different. We used to see people tipping others with Dogecoin because it is very cheap and easy to tip others with Dogecoin other than using Bitcoin and anything else, it is not because Dogecoin is specialized for it. As meme coin, Dogecoin can be used in many ways not only limited it. So this is not going to be Dogecoin killer.

DOGE is just a garbage shitcoin in my opinion. It doesn't have any usecase, any mission, the face of DOGE is an actual doggy.. so what would you expect from it. It is not a serious altcoin, but it benefited from FOMO and became popular because it was one of the first cryptocurrencies in the market.

BAT has a real use case and the Brave browser associated with it is a revolution in the browsing niche. There have been several studies made that prove that BRAVE is better than Chrome. What's really awesome about BAT is that it incentivises people to create quality content. I don't know if the elimination of ads is a good thing as good businesses need to take the word out in the world and ads are the best way to do so.

Doge is doge, started as fun from people to people it still lives with amazing community behind. There's no coin that can kill doge, and why would there be? Some people use doge for gambling, other for tipping, someone mine it, others just keep them for trading, from time to time doge price make a nice spike, like few days ago.
I trade with my amount of doges, and occasionally I play dices with doge coin, nothing special, but I like that little coin that lives trough the years.


Its not garbage coin, at least doge is more decentralized then many other coins. Too big supply is what holding the price, but that's another story. I wouldn't call it garbage coin for sure, its fun and interesting project, read a bit about it and you will see.

No, Doge to me is likely to outlast most Cryptocurrencies in the space, Both coins are addressing different market, thou BAT is used on its browser which is a thinning niche IMO as compared to Doge where it is used in most market, lending, Casino, Lottery, betting, even pay for drugs.

BAT was promising coin until Brave doesn't start asking for a KYC.

KYC for using a BROWSER?! They killed the whole conception with this single action. I'm still using an old version of Brave, but I will never update and KYC for the new one.

Not sure about the co-existence of DOGE and BAT but DOGE would surely exist. DOGE is much more different than what BAT aims and offers. BAT is for advertising within brave browser DOGE is a universal meme coin used for varied things including tipping. DOGE has a good following community and is one of the easiest coin to start mining.  

Brave created the basic attention Token, and already have a donation system in place, which automatically divides a monthly budget amongst the websites you use most, based on how much time you spend on each site. They are also working on a decentralized ad network, that only serves users with ads that respect your privacy and don't have many (or any) trackers. Users who agree to not block the ads will actually get paid BAT tokens for browsing the web, and can then put those tokens into the Brave Payments system to further support their favorite sites, or just spend the money as they wish.

On the other hand, Dogecoin was created as a joke. The coin was created based on a meme. Even the creator doesn’t think it should be worth what it is. That said, I didn’t sell mine yet, but personally I think BAT is a good buy because of the significant potential for growth, the chain, community, and everything else. However, I couldn’t say the same about Dogecoin. It’s very speculative and doesn’t have any serious background.

BAT is the crypto for Brave Browser so why think that it will kill Dogecoin? how long Doge has been there? why there's so much hate for this meme coin? the fees and speed for Doge is amazing although this coin was made for fun. Look on how it was helpful from time to time when there are traders that are transferring using it. I wouldn't compare these two coins because they are entirely different from each other and there's no sense comparing them IMO.

If this is the only reason why Bat is the Doge killer, I don't think so, they are don't have the same market, BAT is more on advertising while Doge is very much stable in faucets and other tipping projects, Doge is a project that will not die, the support is still there, they have a very solid community, they can co -exist, and I don't think BAT is going to compete with Doge only, there are a lot of coins that can also be used as a tipping coin.

Who said I'm thinking anything? Why do so many people get triggered by this post.

I was interested in discussing this issue as the tipping feature does offer the possibility to compare them.

I don't think that BAT will make DOGE obsolete in any way. DOGE started out as a meme for a picture of a Shiba Inu dog, which is an ancient Japanese breed. It's a meme similar to PEPE that went viral and gained popularity pretty fast. DOGE coins motto was "TO THE MOON". BAT on the other hand is a utility token rewarded to users of the Brave browser (a privacy centric browser) for consensual viewing of opt-in adverts. DOGE and BAT can and will Co-exist. Nothing should hinder either except for a loss of interest from their ongoing communities and speculators of their particular cryptocurrencies!

Dogecoin is a very old and reliable coin, and one of the most stable. It is also used to withdraw coins from one exchange to another, since the price for one coin is low, this makes it an excellent tool for this with a low commission.

Thanks to all for sharing your opinion!

I believe BAT and DOGE are two different monsters. BAT is a great token integrated with the Brave browser so in addition to being a cryptocurrency, it offers a way to monetise ads though web browsing. On the other hand, DOGE is a simply a dated cryptocurrency that is cute and has a dog.

It is of my opinion that BAT will indeed make DOGE obsolete.

I do not understand how you can compare these 2 diffrent cryptocurrencies. DOGE is a coin used as a mean of payment on its blockchain, while BAT is only a token with 1 use case: tipping, thats all. Simply you can replace this token by any other coin, like Bitcoin LN tipping.  :)

Don't take other opinion seriously. They are aggressive because you compare Doge coin and BAT token which has different market and purposes. As he said above. DOGE coin was originally created as payment solution while BAT is for reward on the brave browser. They have different market so no one will gonna be obselete thru each other.

BAT had an ICO, it has a centralized team behind it. Sure its good and its doing good things but you cant compare Doge to some startup.

DOGE is a community coin, it started with mining and has never had an ICO. Its more like Bitcoin and Litecoin than anything else. No one controls it. This is what crypto was intended to be from the beginning.

It is still difficult to draw any definite conclusions about your statement. BAT really offers more functionality as part of rewarding content creators and viewing ads.

However, the system is working too weak at the moment, it seems to me that even 30% of the declared functionality has not been implemented.
Probably the project is fully implemented with the connection of a larger number of countries to their service.

that would be awesome haha, except that DOGE is the liquidity king, check out its daily volume :O
BAT is a great idea, i think the KYC to use a browser might throw people off tho ;) i fired up my wallet today and it hit me with that right at the start :(
BAT will never be replaced or even come close on CMC to DOGE as its way too commercialized already, DOGE is the ultimate grassroots crypto

for me , its not ,
BAT/Brave maybe can paying people by seeing their ads or for content creator or something like that.
but that only just on brave browser, and doge, oh come on , u know exactly doge right ?
its a legend coins, people using it for anything. gambling , giveaway , tips ,manymore,
u cant compare doge with BAT.

people might know dogecoin first and that makes doge more popular in the market. but BAT comes with a good platform and concept. they have clear development and planning. I think there are different goals and functions for these two coins.

DOGE will not be replaced by BAT. both of these coins have their advantages. BAT is very popular after being used in the Brave browser which uses the Brave Browser to get BAT by just browsing using the Brave browser. BAT and DOGE prices are very different. BAT is currently priced at $ 0.2 while DOGE is $ 0.002. If BAT is said to be a DOGE killer it's wrong.

If the fact that Doge has no real development and is based on a dog meme didn't kill it, I don't think anything will.

It has a real world use... primarily moving funds between exchanges and I suppose gambling sites. And as others noted, it has a ton of liquidity. It's a joke coin of course, but at this point I expect it's a joke that will last as long as crypto does.

BAT looks good too and I like the real world usage aspect. However, KYC for the brave browser probably will limit adoption a great deal. I don't see BAT and Doge as direct competitors.

Doge is not the best example of a rewarding token. I would rather compare it with Steem, because another platform Publish0x is rewarding publishers with BAT tokens as well. On the other hand, DOGE is an old altcoin which would be very hard to defeat.

BAT is a decentralized coin for digital advertising and can only be used to tip someone at Brave. But, DOGE was created as a joke coin, afterwards taken seriously and its creation has nothing to do with the tip. So, they are not coins (BAT is token) that are relevant enough to be compared with each other. Therefore, both may coexist.

No. Nothing can kill dogecoin even if they have no development but the coin will exist as long as the community still loves it and the whales won't abandon it no matter what as its a money source for them whenever the Bitcoin price starts to swing with the price. BAT has its place along side Doge , there is no need for a battle between them , also BAT had an ICO when Dogecoin was simply adopted by everyone back in 2014-2015.

Nothing can kill doge. That little coin has developed a life all it's own, independent of the original developers. It's going to be listed on Binance soon, and the daily transaction numbers are still healthy.

And it's a phishing attempt. Don't ever use this kind of browser as this is reported for phishing attempts. So all who have read this. Y'all have been warned. When they asked you about updating the barge browser just simply ignore it or much better uninstall the browser itself. About who's gonna win. I think BAT has the momentum to beat Doge. Dogecoin is a pump and dump coin but it's foundation is well established as many merchants are accepting Doge. If BAT can do that. Then BAT will say this coin. Also the BAT advantage, it's traded in Houbi and OKex. Large market means large buyers.

statements from many friends who do not believe bat will kill dogecoin ,doge is very popular among old people of crypto and has become the best long term investment ,besides that dogecoin is also often used for shopp at various real uses and competition is actually not just an assumption from several heads who saw only one time

I believe you misunderstand what the OP meant when he ask his question because BAT and Doge have almost the same concept because Doge was first used online for tipping by ads and content owner before it again more user attention which also make gambling site etc add it to their payment system.

really different coin, BAT trying to give benefit to its holders as well as creating new advertising system basically it wants to revolutionize the whole advertising system in the internet or even making internet different than it is today meanwhile dogecoin is just a meme but a really reliable meme and quite stable but not really.
We can't say BAT is the doge killer if from the start they are different thing, people can buy both if they want, it's a free crypto market after all and I think the userbase of DOGE never really be bothered with BAT and the same goes to BAT community.

i think BAT token can't be a doge killer because both of them is very different
BAT is a token from ethereum and Doge is a coin. with the main difference is BAT has a fixed total supply while dogecoin is unlimited

I don't think a coin like BAT would kill DOGE, why can't we have both?
It's funny to see how doge is today, it bornt like a meme and here we are
I use doge sometimes to avoid high fees

That is the major use of doge to me as well, for transfer purposes.
I have never used BAT til now for that purpose.
And as you said, because they require KYC for the brave browser, people will be limited on this network.
They have evolved into different applications in the crypto market.
So in conclusion, BAT will never kill the almight doge.

Why do we have to compare BAT with DOGE, as we know that these two coins have different functions. If we talk about DOGE
this coin has many supporters because the transaction costs are cheap and fast. Though this coin was made originally only for
jokes, but until now still survive with a large enough volume. And when talking about BAT, it was created to support the Brave
browser as digital advertising. So both of them it is not a competitor in my opinion, because it has different interests. My conclusion
BAT will not could ever kill DOGE.

Additionally, DOGE paved the way to introduce many people to become cryptoenthusiast being one of the early altcoins! I cannot say its garbage coin when it did survive the 2018 bear market being one of the longest running community coin. I think DOGE has served its purpose. Imho.

You are participant in brave browser maybe very happy with monthly payment than doge coin never give reward to participated at their give away. I like basic token or BAT and have higher price than doge, BAT will be faster development with giving more than one years still send reward for every brave browser traffic, during next two year still giving reward BAT token will kill doge coin.

Neither will DOGE kill the almighty BAT. DOGE and BAT are both almighty in a sense. They are big and old players in the cryptocurrency space. And they have contributed a lot. DOGE may have started out as a meme coin but then it transformed into a multi-million cryptocurrency project that got the heart of many tipsters and gamblers. Finally, they won't kill each other. They are not even directly competing with each other. Where did you get that idea that these two coins are murderers?

Which is right, both coins can co-exist since there's no direct competitions as it was use differently. A meme coin that still existing and being use
by people who are knowledgeable regarding to small fees and faster transactions. While BAT you mentioned, it's being use to compensate users and
make gives opportunities to earn from publishers who wanted to explore the system.

BAT will have to coexist with DOGE coin because, in my opinion, you can't kill DOGE because I am seeing DOGE in the market for almost 3-4 yrs and so far it is holding strong because of its strong backing from the community.

hard to say, Token BAT killer DOGE. this thing that might doubt me. Dogecoin is still used or preferred by most people, because in the beginning it was created mostly to be used as a fundraiser to donate and Dogecoin favored by some novice traders because it tends to be more predictable. also the (use and exchange) features, and fast transactions make people prefer.

Token BAT is something new to me, I don't really understand. what I like about this token is that there is a tip from the Brave browser, also as a publisher can register monetization on their platform. very doubtful, but what makes me amazed by this token is that Bitcoin and altcoin experience Baerish, only the BAT Token continues to soar.

but doge is a very innocent puppy and bats can attack and suck his blood  ;D

seriously, doge is more efficient as a coin, it's always a good option to transfer between exchanges paying cheaper fees. erc20 tokens suck, they make micro payments unfeasible too. I don't know why they don't build bat on stellar or waves. the obligation to use uphold is another problem of brave/bat platform.

they only use bat as a promotional browser payment, while doge is a friendly token as a low transaction, used as gambling it will not rival doge because both tokens have different advantages

Why? From a functionality standpoint doge is inferior to almost all altcoins out there, given that it hasn't had any development since probably a few years back now.

There is no smart contract, no lightning network, no nothing. But yet, it still survives.

Why? Because there is a community behind it, and that people are used to trading small value items against DOGE including on exchanges, where it is a major trading pair. Community sentiment is sometimes more important than even the fundamentals.

BAT is somehow useful coin for Brave browser ecosystem and also great for publishers loooking for extra income by the tipping system inside Brave. BAT and DOGE are obviously different coins, BAT has advantageous future while Doge is still intact in its original nature.

Making it in waves is not a good idea 😅.  There is no succeful project that build using that platform even waves it self has lost its value and trust from thier investors unlike ETH and ETH platform.
That uphold is also a problem since they require KYC even with small trade .

The price does not matter, the token has value itself. The higher the eth price the higher the fees, most investors are speculators not users.

A dapp platform should be functional, fast and charging low fees. There's no successful project because no one is building there, most tokens there are experiments, people learning to create something on blockchain. Could be Tron or EOS too, their dapps have more users than Ethereum.

Question.
Is it right to compare the two?

BAT is being used by brave browser how about Doge?
Doge is a stand alone coin and it was developed years ago.
I may consider it if both was created at the same time.
This is non sense for me.
It is either hatred against Doge or just simply advertising BAT.

Doge and BAT are two different types of coins, although BAT can be used for the tip system, but I don't think it can beat the popularity of DOGE
Because there are already many similar coins that can be used for tips but are not popular, BAT will be more popular for Brave Browser and the Reward system that is in the browser.

I agree. The only reason why I use doge is because it is super and super cheap when it comes to transactions, especially when you want to transfer exchange to exchange or tipping other users. In my opinion, doge is enough since it is reputable with high market trading volume easy to use features. Not to mention that it is a potential investment since it follows Bitcoin bulls.

doge coin should be very expensive if the developer has a very good plan so that it can make doge coins can be used by many platforms because it will influence the price of doge which will rise to expensive due to the influence of increased demand and use of doge coins, whereas if the price is still cheap, so I think that is the cause of the doge coins which cannot have expensive prices.