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Title: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more smerit. Done! Thank you theymos.
Post by: iasenko on November 05, 2019, 02:48:12 PM
To make theymos' live easier, let's put together all the " Attentions Here I need more sMerit Sir Theymos Please Sir" and bump just this one.

So Everyone who ran out of merit, or has too many sourceMerit please post below and I'll put you in the list.

Those who I found til now are :

Updated: 14.11.19

  • CryptopreneurBrainboss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052091) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52989944#msg52989944)
  • Vispilio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=982288) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52988051#msg52988051)
  • micgoossens (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067333) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52984600#msg52984600)
  • The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg52990611#msg52990611)
  • o_e_l_e_o (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188543) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg52991049#msg52991049)
  • ETFbitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=359716) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg52991723#msg52991723)
  • hugeblack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1059082) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg52992952#msg52992952)
  • cabalism13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1605387) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg53005893#msg53005893)
  • Daniel91 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=334636) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg52997184#msg52997184)
  • LFC_Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379487) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg53009481#msg53009481)
  • marlboroza (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg53060272#msg53060272)
  • malevolent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23092) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg53071178#msg53071178)


Seems like theymos heard our request, I'm closing this one with a


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: The Pharmacist on November 05, 2019, 02:59:56 PM
I don't know if Theymos is going to act on this thread, but it would probably help.  If possible, I'd like to suggest myself for an increase in source sMerits.  I've been sort of inconsistent with my merit-giving over the past few months, but I've been trying to do better and last month I gave out a TON of merits.  Right now I'm out of my allocated sMerits and am using the ones I've earned.  It'd be great if Theymos could grant me just a little bit more so I don't keep running out every month. 

I'm not even sure how many I get per month, because I've never kept track and I think I keep getting more on different dates--but it doesn't seem like I ever have enough, at least not for the last two months or so.  If other members didn't keep meriting my posts, I'm sure I'd be completely out at the end of every allocation period.  Thanks for the thread, OP.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: TMAN on November 05, 2019, 03:22:57 PM
Right now I'm out of my allocated sMerits and am using the ones I've earned. 

same - as I haven't been to active recently I have been more liberal with my merits to try to ensure they are not burnt/lost - but I will be more active again now so everyone other than TAA is in with a chance


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 05, 2019, 03:40:08 PM
I've never made a thread about it, but I am chronically out of both source and personal sMerits, and frequently have to skip over good posts because I am either out of merit or I have only 2 or 3 left, and I always like to keep a couple in reserve in case of coming across an excellent post or a good newbie. I stopped keeping a list of saved posts I wanted to merit because whenever my merits are replenished I always have new posts to award, so my list was never getting any smaller.

Add me to the list, thanks.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 05, 2019, 04:47:00 PM
Thx for the thread, I will lock mine I just stick with this thread to occasionally ask for an increase of Source......

I think the time is there to help us out and give us a bit what we are asking for, in order to help around the forum we should get some attention with this issue.

Would merit the OP but same troubles as yesterday 0 and 0 atm ::)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: ETFbitcoin on November 05, 2019, 04:48:36 PM
I'm always run out of merit source and personal sMerit quickly, even though i send 1 sMerit most of the times.

Please add me to the list as well.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 05, 2019, 04:55:38 PM
I'm always run out of merit source and personal sMerit quickly, even though i send 1 sMerit most of the times.

Please add me to the list as well.

Hope you get some increase, but then as a source rethink your send strategy... It's better if a post as member is merit worthy to send at least 2merit, he will generate a Smerit himself what is good for further distribution and in order to rank up a bit....

People who has no source merit, do like to award a merit as well when they read something they like.... and as a non source its hard to gain some Smerits...


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 05, 2019, 05:02:46 PM
It's better if a post as member is merit worthy to send at least 2merit, he will generate a Smerit himself what is good for further distribution and in order to rank up a bit.
I disagree. I'd love to send more than one merit at a time to some posts and users, but since my sMerits are always so limited, if my choice is between sending one merit to two different posts, or sending two merits to one post and none to the second post, then I'm usually going to choose to send one merit to each.

That merit isn't wasted in terms of the user earning their own sMerits. They still earn 0.5 sMerits even though they can't see it, and will then have 1 sMerit to send after they receive a second merit themselves.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Vispilio on November 05, 2019, 05:06:42 PM
Excellent thread @iasenko, I appreciate these efforts for transparency and fairness. Since the introduction of the dynamic Default Trust system, Merit has also acquired strategic implications far beyond spam prevention & upvoting.

If we want to talk about a decentralized and well-distributed checks & balances system where Trust feedback will not be stuck in an insiders' echo chamber, but will truly reflect the diverse worldviews and value systems of accomplished members from around the world,

it's essential that the Source Merit allocations / month reflect that, so a balanced quantity should reach every active local board commensurate with the levels of meaningful engagement and interactions originating from those sections...


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: ETFbitcoin on November 05, 2019, 06:04:01 PM
I'm always run out of merit source and personal sMerit quickly, even though i send 1 sMerit most of the times.

Please add me to the list as well.

Hope you get some increase, but then as a source rethink your send strategy... It's better if a post as member is merit worthy to send at least 2merit, he will generate a Smerit himself what is good for further distribution and in order to rank up a bit....

People who has no source merit, do like to award a merit as well when they read something they like.... and as a non source its hard to gain some Smerits...

Thanks for the suggestion, but each merit source have different strategy about sending sMerit. Few even send same amount of sMerit to all posts.

Besides, it's not like they'll receive only 1 merit in their lifetime :P


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: hugeblack on November 05, 2019, 06:52:14 PM
What is the maximum sMerits per month? Are there more than 1000 per month? I have a good number of sMerit per month but it is enough to send it in the form of 1 merit/good quality member. "Probably the most user who sent 1 Merits  ;D ;D ;D"
Generally, I have some free time until next March so increasing it will be good. #join


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Welsh on November 05, 2019, 06:54:12 PM
What is the maximum sMerits per month? Are there more than 1000 per month? I have a good number of sMerit per month but it is enough to send it in the form of 1 merit/good quality member. "Probably the most user who sent 1 Merits  ;D ;D ;D"
Generally, I have some free time until next March so increasing it will be good.
I don't believe there's been a number given out for the maximum amount of sMerit a user can have, and I think its fairly accurate to assume that theoretically there is no limit. Suchmoon seems to have the most monthly sMerit to distribute each month based on my observations.

If you were to take a look at the total amount of monthly merit received, sent, and take into consideration a user only gets half of each merit received then you would get a good indication of how much merit they have to spend from source each month.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: yahoo62278 on November 05, 2019, 07:19:23 PM
I have a question about merit sources. Are they all trustworthy? I am not making any assumptions about any single merit source here, but I was recently sent a PM about facebook groups and posts on fiver that are selling merit. Below are the 2 links that were sent to me but if there are 2 then I am positive there are more.

https://www.fiverr.com/crypto_ico_/supply-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-and-member-rank-accounts
https://www.fiverr.com/bounty_1/supply-bitcointalk-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-account

What sort of process goes into choosing a merit source? What happens if a merit source is found to be a merit seller? Will all the merits that source sent be removed from the profiles the merits were sent to? Will the source be perma banned?


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 05, 2019, 07:39:23 PM
It's better if a post as member is merit worthy to send at least 2merit, he will generate a Smerit himself what is good for further distribution and in order to rank up a bit.
I disagree. I'd love to send more than one merit at a time to some posts and users, but since my sMerits are always so limited, if my choice is between sending one merit to two different posts, or sending two merits to one post and none to the second post, then I'm usually going to choose to send one merit to each.

That merit isn't wasted in terms of the user earning their own sMerits. They still earn 0.5 sMerits even though they can't see it, and will then have 1 sMerit to send after they receive a second merit themselves.

Here I disagree, I like to encourage people to use the merit system where its made for and not post multiple post only to gain merit because its so hard to get some Smerit when a person isn't a source.....

I do understand your opion of-course, but this statement of me only reflects why its needed to have a bigger stash as a source!
When its known that a merit source isn't out of line with sending then I would suggest he just needs much more as it is, so we can at least X2 merit at good post/members at least...

Also when I wasn't a merit source I do remember being active a lot, read a lot, good constructive as good humor etc but I wasn't able of sending merit cause I was always very limited and that as one of the higher earning merit people around, so I know many are in trouble to gain some merits (NOT that its the most important to have)  BUT as a member of the community we all like the give and receive merit! Why cause its just a part of the forum and cause all the members are talking about it.

I will always defend my opinion as when you are a source, you should send more as 1 merit a time

Good we are not all the same and that some will agree and some will disagree, but I would love to hear some opinions of more people ??

I think for example suchmoon gets the point of being a source very well.... and more should act the way he does with merit sending.

We cannot read everything but we get to know members and we can separate the dirt from the good, so if we merit a good one more then he will resend he's gained merit with good care, and thats exactly whats a community about... it needs to ride and flow involving as many as possible...

Excuse me if i'm writing a bit weird, but the wine is talking!





I'm always run out of merit source and personal sMerit quickly, even though i send 1 sMerit most of the times.

Please add me to the list as well.

Hope you get some increase, but then as a source rethink your send strategy... It's better if a post as member is merit worthy to send at least 2merit, he will generate a Smerit himself what is good for further distribution and in order to rank up a bit....

People who has no source merit, do like to award a merit as well when they read something they like.... and as a non source its hard to gain some Smerits...

Thanks for the suggestion, but each merit source have different strategy about sending sMerit. Few even send same amount of sMerit to all posts.

Besides, it's not like they'll receive only 1 merit in their lifetime :P

Exactly understand where you're coming from, but its just a strategy exchange ::)





I have a question about merit sources. Are they all trustworthy? I am not making any assumptions about any single merit source here, but I was recently sent a PM about facebook groups and posts on fiver that are selling merit. Below are the 2 links that were sent to me but if there are 2 then I am positive there are more.

https://www.fiverr.com/crypto_ico_/supply-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-and-member-rank-accounts
https://www.fiverr.com/bounty_1/supply-bitcointalk-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-account

What sort of process goes into choosing a merit source? What happens if a merit source is found to be a merit seller? Will all the merits that source sent be removed from the profiles the merits were sent to? Will the source be perma banned?

I don't know all the merit sources of-course but it would be important to have trustworthy members as sources.... I know i'm not selling :) (easy to track) have given away a lot more as what a merit could sell for ....

But nonetheless some of the hunters will investigate i'm sure of :)   


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 05, 2019, 08:19:29 PM
I will always defend my opinion as when you are a source, you should send more as 1 merit a time
I understand where you are coming from, and I would like to be able to send more than 1 at a time in some instances, but given that I am constantly running out, if I were to send twice as much merit to each post I could only merit half as many people. I prefer to spread it around as much as possible. Agree to disagree.

What happens if a merit source is found to be a merit seller? Will all the merits that source sent be removed from the profiles the merits were sent to? Will the source be perma banned?
At the top of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit for all merit sources it includes the following statement:
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It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.

I can only imagine that if a source was caught selling merit they would at the very least have their source status removed. Whether or not those merits are reversed would be up to theymos on an individual basis I guess. The odd merit here or there I would guess would be left, but if someone had given out 50 merit at a time to a couple of accounts, that might be reversed as he has done in other scenarios in the past. I doubt very much it would lead to a perma-ban.

Still, every time I see these "merit sellers", I always question if the ad is true. It's a very easy way to rip people off, knowing full well that they can't come on here and complain or open a scam accusation because their account will be red trusted to high heaven for trying to purchase merit.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: 1miau on November 05, 2019, 09:22:17 PM
...
Those who I found til now are :

Updated: 05.11.19

  • CryptopreneurBrainboss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052091) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52989944#msg52989944)
  • Vispilio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=982288) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52988051#msg52988051)
  • 1miau (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2143453) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52984838#msg52984838)
  • micgoossens (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067333) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197548.msg52984600#msg52984600)
  • The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198889.msg52990611#msg52990611)

I'm feeling very honoured to be added to your list of "Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation" but I have to admit I'm not a Merit Source yet.  :-\
My application (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158075.0) is still pending and I'm waiting to be appointed...

Merit Sources have an additional text field when they try to send Merit ("You are a Merit Source. The next xxx Merit...")

No Merit Source

Merit Source

I wouldn't complain if it looks like the one from micgoossens soon.  ;)



Good we are not all the same and that some will agree and some will disagree, but I would love to hear some opinions of more people ??
As a Merit Source it depends a lot on how many sMerit they are getting. If it's not much, I think the best way is to distribute it to as many users as possible (1 Merit per post). Best solution would be to give Merit according to the quality of the post but I think most Merit Sources would be very fast out of it.
If a Merit Source has a large number of sMerit left every month while they are sending only 1 Merit per post (even if the post deserves more) then their allocation should be reduced or they should adjust their spending habits (send more per post).
Finally, I think sending 1 or 2 Merit per post doesn't make much difference as long as all sMerits are spend. It's not unlikely that you'll give the same person 2 x 1 for two different posts or 1 x 2 Merits for the same one.

Important part is, that the allocated Source Merits are getting in circulation.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: iasenko on November 05, 2019, 11:14:54 PM
*

I totally forgot about the other thread where I listed you in the waiting list for MS. Sorry, it's corrected now.

As I posted in my other thread about merit sources applications, it is only positive thing that you guys are running out of smerit. Before you should create a thread to look for good posts. This is only a indication that the quality of the posts have increased and theymos succeeded with all the small and so small forum tweaks.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Vod on November 06, 2019, 02:41:18 AM
So Everyone who ran out of merit, or has too many sourceMerit please post below and I'll put you in the list.

Wish you had done this a few months ago.  I never could get under 800 sMerits.  :(  I had to do what Theymos suggested and send 10x the merit to a good post instead of 1 point to 10 mediocre posts.  



Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Coolcryptovator on November 06, 2019, 05:54:20 AM
I have been countering this below message more than 20 days on every month.
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You are a merit source. The next 0 merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.

I have remembered my allocation was 50/per month when added me first time on merit source. But now, look like receiving less than 50 per month (LOL). To be honest my monthly allocation finished before 10 days of receive smerit. Its quite reasonable to increase my monthly allocation. On the other hand airdrop merits are decaying day by day. So increase merit source and smerit allocation for current merit sources is demand of time. I am spending enough time on this forum and even sometimes I can't merit on good post due to lack of smerits.

So YES, I am expecting for increase my monthly allocation. I don't know if theymos reading this thread or if he consider OP list for increase merit allocation. But for me, if not then I will have to write theymos once again.

Anyway OP make it eaiser for apply increase monthly allocation and thanks for that.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: tranthidung on November 06, 2019, 06:22:20 AM
What happens if a merit source is found to be a merit seller? Will all the merits that source sent be removed from the profiles the merits were sent to? Will the source be perma banned?
Months ago, maybe in late of 2018 or very early months of 2019, one or two merit sources removed and all merits sent from them reverted by theymos. This change created messy situation on merit data (negative merits, something like that), and some forum stats analysers, @DdmrDdmr or @LoyceV can confirm and point out past posts related to this issue.

Furthermore, I don't remembered exactly but I still have a memory that due to abuse on merits, when banned accounts sent sMerits to their alts or sell their sMerits, from that theymos adjusted the forum merit system and lock merit button of banned accounts.

Theymos does not care about merit sellers because merit sellers are unable (mostly) earn merits themselves. Consequently, they will run out of initial airdropped sMerits and back-and-forth sMerits between their alts. Finally, they will do not have a single sMerit left to sell.
Merit sales, transfers to aliases, back-and-forth trading, etc. are not much of an issue. All illegitimate merit will decay, and will account for a tiny and very expensive fraction of the total merit economy. It's basically a rounding error; fight it where convenient, but waste no sleep over it.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Daniel91 on November 06, 2019, 07:34:34 AM
Thank you for this topic,  great idea!
At the moment I'm only merit source in Croatian section of the forum and have only 25 sMerits available to give monthly.
Since some of Croatian members don't write often in English part of the forum and don't have big chance that someone understand their posts and reward good quality posts with merits,  I started topic in Croatian section where all local members can report their good posts and some of them I reward with merits.
Previous Croatian merit source had 50 sMerits available and later theymos increased this number to 100 sMerits for him but he received permaban and we lost this merit source.
Of course I sometimes reward good quality posts in English section of the forum but because I don't have much sMerits available I have to plan in advance how to spend it and sometimes can't reward some really good posts on the forum.
I hope theymos read this topic and will accept my request.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: hosseinimr93 on November 06, 2019, 08:28:01 AM
At the moment I'm only merit source in Croatian section of the forum and have only 25 sMerits available to give monthly.
I don't understand Croatian. But I just checked Croatian board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=201.0).
I don't think you need more sMerits. Because very few posts are made in this board. While today is November 6, there are only 9 threads at the first page of the board which their last post are made in November. The last post of the last thread of the first page has been made on August 26. So, I don't think Croatian board is that active and there is no need to more sMerits.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 06, 2019, 09:57:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/yRrYqY5.png


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: DdmrDdmr on November 06, 2019, 10:26:18 AM
Just though Iíd drop a graphical image of the meriting trends of each of the forum members listed in the OP. Iíve narrowed it down to 2019:

https://i.imgur.com/bHRknB7.png

Flatter line segments mean low or out of sMerit (or taking a break).

Note: Logically we cannot discern which awarded sMerits are from the Merit Source pool, and which come from earned merit halving as sMerits.


Mmmm the greens look a like on my screen  :-*
Not great with colours myself (being colour-blind). The system chose the colours. From top to bottom (looking at the right-hand side extremes): EFTbitcoin, micgoossens, hugeblack, o_e_l_e_o, The Pharmacist, CryptopreneurBrainboss, Vispilio.

It may be easier to visualize on the Dashboard itself (hover over a line to get info -> username, date and number of accumulated sMerits):
https://public.tableau.com/shared/35JZZGPW8?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 06, 2019, 11:27:46 AM
Mmmm the greens look a like on my screen  :-*


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Daniel91 on November 06, 2019, 11:30:54 AM
At the moment I'm only merit source in Croatian section of the forum and have only 25 sMerits available to give monthly.
I don't understand Croatian. But I just checked Croatian board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=201.0).
I don't think you need more sMerits. Because very few posts are made in this board. While today is November 6, there are only 9 threads at the first page of the board which their last post are made in November. The last post of the last thread of the first page has been made on August 26. So, I don't think Croatian board is that active and there is no need to more sMerits.


I think that I was clear enough but if not I will explain again.
I don't ask for merits only because of Croatian section and local Croatian users (in fact most posts from Croatian users I reward with sMerits  in English part of the forum ).
I ask for more merits so that I can reward good quality posts in English part of the forum (posts from all users not just Croats).
Because I donít have enough sMerits I can't reward all good quality posts I find on the forum.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 06, 2019, 12:27:10 PM
Months ago, maybe in late of 2018 or very early months of 2019, one or two merit sources removed and all merits sent from them reverted by theymos. This change created messy situation on merit data (negative merits, something like that), and some forum stats analysers, @DdmrDdmr or @LoyceV can confirm and point out past posts related to this issue.
Firstly in October last year, QuestionAuthority was removed as a merit source for giving out 30 merit at a time to anyone who asked for it, but these merits were not reversed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050263.msg47050953#msg47050953

Then in February of this year, stingers was removed as a merit source and since he was trying to cheat the trust system effectively had the recent merits he had sent nullified by theymos sending out an equivalent amount of negative merits: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49603204#msg49603204


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: LoyceV on November 06, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
It's better if a post as member is merit worthy to send at least 2merit, he will generate a Smerit himself what is good for further distribution and in order to rank up a bit.
I disagree. I'd love to send more than one merit at a time to some posts and users, but since my sMerits are always so limited, if my choice is between sending one merit to two different posts, or sending two merits to one post and none to the second post, then I'm usually going to choose to send one merit to each.
Here I disagree, I like to encourage people to use the merit system where its made for and not post multiple post only to gain merit because its so hard to get some Smerit when a person isn't a source.....

I do understand your opion of-course, but this statement of me only reflects why its needed to have a bigger stash as a source!
I'm with o_e_l_e_o on this one: as long as I don't have a bigger source amount, I try to distribute my sMerit to as many posts as I can.

I can see from your (micgoossens') sMerit distribution that for months in a row you're out of sMerit before the end of the month:
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Merit sent by micgoossens (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067333) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/1067333.html)) from January 24, 2018 until November 01, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1067333.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/1067333_red.gif



Months ago, maybe in late of 2018 or very early months of 2019, one or two merit sources removed and all merits sent from them reverted by theymos. This change created messy situation on merit data (negative merits, something like that), and some forum stats analysers, @DdmrDdmr or @LoyceV can confirm and point out past posts related to this issue.
See:
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Merit sent by deMerit (Bitcoin Forum) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=0) from January 24, 2018 until November 01, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/0.html))

    16. Tue Feb  5 23:07:11 2019: -2 (-104) to cryptohunter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=92110) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/92110.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/92110.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
    15. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -5 (-102) to peloso (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81995) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/81995.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/81995.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
    14. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -2 (-97) to Deena (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1316028) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/1316028.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1316028.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
    13. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -9 (-95) to hoop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290351) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/290351.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/290351.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
    12. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -1 (-86) to Rmcdermott927 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=289011) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/289011.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/289011.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
    11. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -9 (-85) to TheCoinFinder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249872) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/249872.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/249872.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
    10. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -7 (-76) to Tupsu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249436) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/249436.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/249436.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     9. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -8 (-69) to LiQio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165478) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/165478.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/165478.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     8. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -2 (-61) to mich (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9645) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/9645.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/9645.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     7. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -10 (-59) to Quickseller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/358020.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/358020.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     6. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -10 (-49) to TECSHARE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/15728.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/15728.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     5. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -10 (-39) to gwsukabokepjepang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536607) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/2536607.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2536607.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     4. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -4 (-29) to Bazinga442 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1246188) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/1246188.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1246188.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     3. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -10 (-25) to Thule (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355462) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/355462.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/355462.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     2. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -10 (-15) to cryptohunter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=92110) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/92110.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/92110.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)
     1. Tue Feb  5 23:07:10 2019: -5 (-5) to H8bussesNbicycles (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2472107) (Trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-26_Sat_10.16h/2472107.html)) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/2472107.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=0.msg0#msg0)



As for myself: I don't feel like I need a larger source amount, but I wouldn't mind having to give more either. I try to keep my source amount as close to zero as possible, and I still have quite a decent amount of "my own" sMerits left. But it's less than 10% of the amount of sMerit I've sent in total. If my source would double, that would effectively mean I'll have to double the amount I send per post. If that's something theymos is interested in considering the posts I've Merited, I'd welcome an increase.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Last of the V8s on November 06, 2019, 12:56:15 PM

The system chose the colours.


This is very sad-making. We must rise up against our software overlords.


Because I donít have enough sMerits I can't reward all good quality posts I find on the forum.


This is very sad-making. We must rise up against our merit-source-allocating overlords.

Seriously now, there does seem to be a level of angst about this. Maybe theymos is waiting to see how the art thread pans out, with his encouragement to splurge out merit there, but I for one would love to hear his thoughts fairly soon on whether or not there's enough merit in the economy. Perhaps though his silence on the issue is telling.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: cabalism13 on November 07, 2019, 12:26:33 AM
Requesting to be added on the list.
I'm currently saving all the sMerits right now, I really doubt I still have the same 100 sMerits, its also too slow on getting back, I feel like it is back on 50. Been saving it all up this past few days so I won't run out. Am not a good topic starter so earning Merits to get sMerits wouldn't be possible.

I wonder if I can have another increase even if its already gonna be the last. I will accept whatever amount of increase that will be given to me for the last time.



I try to keep my source amount as close to zero as possible,...
I really thought that you have almost the same amount as the others like DarkStar_ and suchmoon


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: DarkStar_ on November 07, 2019, 04:16:56 AM
I'm currently saving all the sMerits right now, I really doubt I still have the same 100 sMerits, its also too slow on getting back, I feel like it is back on 50.

Why save? Source sMerits come back 30 days after you spend them. By saving them, you'll be sending less merit overall so there's not much point. Your source size is probably still the same.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: cabalism13 on November 07, 2019, 04:31:34 AM
Just made a computation, I will only be distributing 3 sMerits per day. So I will start by now, and by that, means the ones I'll be getting will be saved for later use.
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You are a merit source. The next 23 merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.
I still have 1 for today, and I think it should be good instead of waiting. So everyday I get sMerits to give.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: LoyceV on November 07, 2019, 11:10:13 AM
I try to keep my source amount as close to zero as possible,...
I really thought that you have almost the same amount as the others like DarkStar_ and suchmoon
I get 400 source Merits per month. Based on Most generous recent merit senders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsend), I guess suchmoon has around 1200, and DarkStar_ 200. It could be more, if they don't empty it.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 07, 2019, 11:14:39 AM
Iím always out so you can add me to the list needing more please óóó>

https://i.ibb.co/71NDq9Q/BF552-C58-5-F1-E-460-B-81-A2-A2-CCB07-BBAFD.png


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 07, 2019, 11:26:52 AM
Just made a computation, I will only be distributing 3 sMerits per day. So I will start by now, and by that, means the ones I'll be getting will be saved for later use.
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You are a merit source. The next 23 merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.
I still have 1 for today, and I think it should be good instead of waiting. So everyday I get sMerits to give.

Don't calculate out what to send when ... just send when its due ... if its empty then its not your fault, but the systems fault of not providing a good daily active merit sender with a bigger allocation.

But saving up the merits is flaw as well.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: LoyceV on November 07, 2019, 12:29:44 PM
Don't calculate out what to send when ... just send when its due ... if its empty then its not your fault, but the systems fault of not providing a good daily active merit sender with a bigger allocation.
At the start of this year, my source amount was doubled (to 400), and at that moment it was reset to the full amount too. I tried to spend it evenly through the month so that it comes back evenly the next month too. It doesn't always work, if I'm inactive for a few days it goes up, and the next month it doesn't get replenished for a few days, but on most days it's pretty steady.
So if I spend about 15-20 sMerit per day (including the ones I earn myself), my source stays close to empty, while I'm never out of sMerit if I see a couple of posts that deserve more.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: iasenko on November 07, 2019, 01:17:06 PM
The list is updated, I have not so much time today, so if I missed someone, please shoot me a PM or post here.

Today is my Second Birthday in the Forum woohoo:)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: micgoossens on November 08, 2019, 01:09:56 AM
The list is updated, I have not so much time today, so if I missed someone, please shoot me a PM or post here.

Today is my Second Birthday in the Forum woohoo:)

Missed LFC_bitcoin ;)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: iasenko on November 08, 2019, 08:28:21 AM
Thanks guys, I was on the road almost the whole day yesterday, so I had some small breaks to read the forum, but for 5 min, you can't really read deeply trough.
Anyway, sorry LFC_bitcoin, now you are on the list. :)
Updated!


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Thanks guys, I was on the road almost the whole day yesterday, so I had some small breaks to read the forum, but for 5 min, you can't really read deeply trough.
Anyway, sorry LFC_bitcoin, now you are on the list. :)
Updated!

Donít apologise my friend & thanks :)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: hugeblack on November 09, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
I get 400 source Merits per month. Based on Most generous recent merit senders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsend), I guess suchmoon has around 1200, and DarkStar_ 200. It could be more, if they don't empty it.
I thought there were merit sources that gained more than 2,000 sMerits per month. But since suchmoon gets about 1200 and DarkStar_ 200, I think my source Merits are good.
I get about 50 sMerits/month and currently I get 250 in addition to what I earn per month, maybe I can spend 300 per month.

Today is my Second Birthday in the Forum woohoo:)

Congratulations @iasenko it is good that you have earned more than 1300 Merits in less than two years, you are doing a great job :D.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 11, 2019, 01:39:51 PM
Iím not 100% sure on my source allowance, I havenít counted or kept a record. It canít be any more than 100 per month though. I am literally always out!

I usually rank 25th - 30th in the monthly merit senders list but earn a fair bit myself. I could definitely do with an increased source allowance.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: micgoossens on November 11, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3fzrpy.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3fzrpy)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 11, 2019, 05:21:06 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3fzrpy.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3fzrpy)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)

Would have Merited this but, you know....

https://i.ibb.co/3R3F3YV/5752955-D-7-EBD-4415-8-BB0-B139-D551-C3-E8.png


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: marlboroza on November 12, 2019, 08:39:09 PM
Good thread sir, add me to "please theymos more merit" list, I've spent merits a week ago or something.
At the moment I'm only merit source in Croatian section of the forum and have only 25 sMerits available to give monthly.
I believe I have told you at least 5 times that you are not the only merit source in our section  ::)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources in a need of bigger/smaller Source Merit Allocation.
Post by: Daniel91 on November 13, 2019, 09:10:08 AM
Good thread sir, add me to "please theymos more merit" list, I've spent merits a week ago or something.
At the moment I'm only merit source in Croatian section of the forum and have only 25 sMerits available to give monthly.
I believe I have told you at least 5 times that you are not the only merit source in our section  ::)

Excuse me, my mistake. Since you are rarely on our local part of the forum, as well as Lauda, ​​it is easy to forget that you are also a merit source who understands Croatian.  :D :D




Since you are rarely on our local part of the forum, as well as Lauda, ​​it is easy to forget that you are also a merit source who understands Croatian.  :D :D
I am more often than you think, I just don't spam the same things over and over again :) But let's keep that for our local board, shell we?

If you will keep that to our local board, no problem  ;D ;D


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: malevolent on November 14, 2019, 04:03:43 AM
I also frequently run out of merits so you can add me to the list if you want to. It wasn't a problem until around March-April of this year, I wasn't as active for the first year or so since the introduction of the merit system.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: Last of the V8s on November 14, 2019, 11:23:45 AM
http://i.imgur.com/nOmHYF9.jpg (https://imgur.com/nOmHYF9)
"pls sir theymos we would like some more merits"


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 14, 2019, 06:34:00 PM
Did everybody get a PM from theymos today?


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: LoyceV on November 14, 2019, 06:38:59 PM
Did everybody get a PM from theymos today?
I assume all Merit sources received the PM.

Merit sources (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources):
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There are 90 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18821 sMerit per 30 days
I won't disclose the PM, but I can say I now have to double the amount I send per post:
As for myself: I don't feel like I need a larger source amount, but I wouldn't mind having to give more either. I try to keep my source amount as close to zero as possible, and I still have quite a decent amount of "my own" sMerits left. But it's less than 10% of the amount of sMerit I've sent in total. If my source would double, that would effectively mean I'll have to double the amount I send per post. If that's something theymos is interested in considering the posts I've Merited, I'd welcome an increase.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: suchmoon on November 14, 2019, 06:43:10 PM
I won't disclose the PM, but I can say I now have to double the amount I send per post:

I'm torn about this. If I start sending 7 a pop then I'm gonna have to make it 12 when the next "automatic" adjustment happens. Should I not send as much?

Edit: actually the total source allocation target seems to be ~20k so maybe there won't be another adjustment like that as long as everyone plays nice and EMPTIES THEIR FRIGGING SAUCE MERITS EVERY MONTH  >:(


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: ETFbitcoin on November 14, 2019, 06:46:47 PM
No one check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources) ?

There are 90 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18821 sMerit per 30 days

Looks like there are less merit sources and generated sMerit now


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: LoyceV on November 14, 2019, 06:48:05 PM
I'm torn about this. If I start sending 7 a pop then I'm gonna have to make it 12 when the next "automatic" adjustment happens. Should I not send as much?
There's this:
If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.
Theymos wants you to empty your source, and if you can't (LOL) find like 2000 good posts per month, you're going to have to send more per post :D



If the inactive sources were removed, and the active sources received an increase, that means we can expect an increase in sent Merit from now on. I think that's a good thing, and thanks theymos for listening to iasenko :)

Looks like there are less merit sources and generated sMerit now
The forum doesn't need inactive sources.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 14, 2019, 06:51:38 PM
Did everybody get a PM from theymos today?

Yeah and since I have deliberatively not given a merit since October 18th  in and effort to fully understand my merit source size.  I lowered my average by quite a bit.

Worse yet I won't learn what my merit source size is since it just was adjusted.

As you can see not a single merit sent since Oct 18th

Sent in the last 120 days

Code:
October 18, 2019, 09:06:35 AM: 2 to AlecMe for Re: Canaan Announces 11 Series
October 17, 2019, 10:21:46 PM: 2 to hilariousandco for Re: DT1 member lovesmayfamilis BAN
October 16, 2019, 09:06:52 PM: 1 to KougarLOB for Re: I have $214 in points must spend them at best buy or lose them.
October 14, 2019, 10:21:34 PM: 1 to CristianOff for Re: Too strong KYC
October 14, 2019, 09:18:10 PM: 1 to jtreble for What do the larger farms know that I can't figure out?
October 14, 2019, 09:06:02 AM: 2 to Sundance_ for Re: Current Bitmain Hardware Dump 10/13/19. Very ugly at 10c kWh to ROI Ever! POLL!
October 11, 2019, 05:13:50 PM: 2 to mikeywith for Re: Brand new antminer s9k not hashing
October 09, 2019, 07:50:02 PM: 3 to wndsnb for Re: Is mining gear efficiency a strong reason for difficulty increment?
October 09, 2019, 07:34:02 PM: 2 to mikeywith for Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+
October 09, 2019, 01:27:16 PM: 2 to Hockeybum for Re: Innosilicon t3 50 arrived.
October 08, 2019, 02:02:35 PM: 2 to sidehack for Re: Bitmain is taking paypal !!!!
October 07, 2019, 09:43:55 PM: 2 to mikeywith for Re: more that 3 hashboard on S9
October 07, 2019, 08:30:15 PM: 2 to AverageGlabella for Re: I'm free of weekly post count. Enjoy it from this week and decisive days of BTC
October 06, 2019, 05:43:29 PM: 2 to tranthidung for I'm free of weekly post count. Enjoy it from this week and decisive days of BTC
October 06, 2019, 12:39:37 PM: 3 to Welsh for Re: How I know that who is ignoring me?
October 04, 2019, 10:29:32 AM: 3 to Frengki_cisco for @theymos are Japanese.
October 04, 2019, 10:21:58 AM: 4 to ScamViruS for Staff Dabs abusing merit?
October 02, 2019, 08:05:15 PM: 2 to TryNinja for Re: Can't seem to create legacy address in Core
September 22, 2019, 08:55:10 PM: 6 to Royse777 for Re: Yeah! I am out of sMerits as usual: Merit source application @theymos
September 22, 2019, 08:39:38 PM: 1 to Cartyisme for I Paint/Print Classy AF Art Stuff! You Buy Art Stuff? Good Deal. Good Price.
September 20, 2019, 09:52:43 PM: 2 to mprep for Re: creating a new section: Mini PC
September 20, 2019, 09:50:49 PM: 2 to pishite for creating a new section: Mini PC
September 18, 2019, 03:39:39 PM: 3 to Adpump ICO for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
September 16, 2019, 11:56:56 PM: 2 to eternalgloom for The end of an era for me: Leaving Signature Campaign
September 15, 2019, 09:57:09 AM: 2 to mikeywith for Antminer S9E 16th review
September 15, 2019, 08:33:23 AM: 2 to selo for Re: Quiet [36 dB, 8 THs/500 W] Hotmine Convector Miner. Product Overview
September 12, 2019, 11:44:55 PM: 2 to OgNasty for Re: BITMAIN.COM Everything Discounted 25 %
September 08, 2019, 07:01:39 PM: 6 to DireWolfM14 for My musings about the trust network
September 06, 2019, 11:50:22 AM: 2 to wndsnb for Re: Protection of miners due to voltage fluxes.
September 01, 2019, 05:29:13 PM: 6 to Coolcryptovator for Re: Hey theymos, can i get your attention for a minute.
September 01, 2019, 05:28:48 PM: 6 to CryptopreneurBrainboss for Hey theymos, can i get your attention for a minute.
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My new merit info says this:

You are a merit source. The next 136 merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.


So I will be passing some out asap.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: LoyceV on November 14, 2019, 06:54:03 PM
Worse yet I won't learn what my merit source size is since it just was adjusted.
When your source is adjusted, it gets reset to the full amount. So whatever you have now is your total monthly source amount.

That also means anything you use now won't be replenished for 30 days, so it's wise to "evenly spread out" your source in the coming days. After that, you'll receive regular replenishments.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: suchmoon on November 14, 2019, 06:54:36 PM
The forum doesn't need inactive sources.

I hope he appoints some new ones. There are quite a few worthy pending applications and you know those users will be active senders, at least for a while.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: Deathwing on November 14, 2019, 06:56:32 PM
The forum doesn't need inactive sources.

I hope he appoints some new ones. There are quite a few worthy pending applications and you know those users will be active senders, at least for a while.

In my opinion, merit sources shouldn't really be chosen by looking at applications. Stats usually speak for themselves.

No one check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources) ?

There are 90 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18821 sMerit per 30 days

Looks like there are less merit sources and generated sMerit now

If that 90 merit sources are going to do enough work and spend those sMerits regularly, that's probably better than having 150 in total with a lot of sMerit leftover. To be honest, probably better this way.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: OgNasty on November 14, 2019, 06:59:15 PM
So I will be passing some out asap.

Let the merit rain.

https://hypepotamus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/photo-4175280-e1446748404855.jpg


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: iasenko on November 14, 2019, 07:25:50 PM
As I read here, you guys got an increase of the source merit, is that correct? Shall I lock this topic then if the problem is resolved?

Edited:fixed some typos :)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: Daniel91 on November 14, 2019, 07:45:31 PM
As I read here, you guys got an increase of the source merit, is that correct? Shall I lock this topic then if the problem is resolved?

Edited:fixed some typos :)

I can confirm that I also received increase of the source merit so everything is fine now.
Thank you theymos.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: marlboroza on November 14, 2019, 07:48:28 PM
As I read here, you guys got an increase of the source merit, is that correct? Shall I lock this topic then if the problem is resolved?
Yep.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: Vispilio on November 14, 2019, 07:56:23 PM
As I read here, you guys got an increase of the source merit, is that correct? Shall I lock this topic then if the problem is resolved?

Edited:fixed some typos :)

yes, it was a much needed general adjustment concerning most merit sources.

Without disclosing the pm, most sources got either an increase or decrease depending on their past merit activity...


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: theymos on November 14, 2019, 07:56:45 PM
When your source is adjusted, it gets reset to the full amount. So whatever you have now is your total monthly source amount.

Right, I should've mentioned that in the PM. After you received my PM but before you sent any merit, the source amount displayed was your total allocation.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: iasenko on November 14, 2019, 08:14:00 PM
Good to hear. Another successful change for the forum. Many sources were removed, were there any who were selling merit or just inactive ones?
@ theymos, Let me know if you need new merit sources :)


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: suchmoon on November 14, 2019, 08:24:16 PM
Good to hear. Another successful change for the forum. Many sources were removed, were there any who were selling merit or just inactive ones?
@ theymos, Let me know if you need new merit sources :)

Inactive ones. And new ones have been added:

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There are 90 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18821 sMerit per 30 days

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There are 98 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 21671 sMerit per 30 days


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: logfiles on November 14, 2019, 08:37:26 PM
I can confirm that I also received increase of the source merit so everything is fine now.
Thank you theymos.
This is some good news  :)



Merit sources (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources):
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There are 90 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18821 sMerit per 30 days
I followed the link and saw different figures
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There are 98 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 21671 sMerit per 30 days

Does this mean that 8 new merit sources were added recently?


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: suchmoon on November 14, 2019, 08:44:23 PM
Does this mean that 8 new merit sources were added recently?

Exactly my point, yes.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: malevolent on November 14, 2019, 08:58:36 PM
The spice merits must flow!

Nice. I'll be able to properly look through the art contest thread now/tomorrow and reward more of the worthy submissions.


Title: Re: {LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more/less source merit, @theymos.
Post by: iasenko on November 14, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
Thank you all for the information, then I'm locking this thread as it won't be of service anymore.
If you guys end up with the same problem again I will report it for you :)