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Title: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: mulexjosh on November 09, 2019, 06:12:15 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: oktana on November 09, 2019, 06:53:18 AM
do you mean trade pairs for alt? When BTC bulls occur a lot of altcoins weaken on the BTC pair, but the USDT pair moves in the opposite direction. Different things happen when BTC weakens where both pairs are both down until the condition returns to the sideway. There is altcoin that is not affected because it is technically possible to move according to chart development, but this happens to coins that do have fundamentals that are valid at the time.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jrrsparkles on November 09, 2019, 07:08:32 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
It depends on how your analysis based on,if you analyse the market based on USD increase and decrease then you have to try stable coin pair like USDT and if you analyse against BTC value then picking btc pair is right choice but suggested one will be trading against bitcoin which gets double benefits or more compared to stable pair,use stable coin to convert your profits made from two volatile pair.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Greed Dev on November 09, 2019, 07:37:05 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Any one of the top 10 coins of CMC has good volume and can be of great benefit to you. It is important that you choose the right time to enter the order or not and whether you have the patience to keep your order.
In trading, psychology is very important and we need to sharpen it for a long time. Wish you success in the next transaction.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: sheenshane on November 09, 2019, 07:58:44 AM
Trading using BTC pair is good when the price goes up and if it will go down that gainst to USDT you can divert your Bitcoin into a stable coin like USDT before if I can anticipate the sudden crash. But I won't use USDT for trading pair because that is a stable coin. Bitcoin pairing is a high demand and I guess it will make profitable than using USDT pair.

In trading, we should read more, study more. Because when you getting losses it will cause a headache and turns to depression when you can't handle your emotions.

Anyway, read this article to study about crypto trading pair, Cryptocurrency Trading Pairs Explained - How to Choose the Right One (https://cointobuy.io/cryptocurrency-investing-tips-and-guide/cryptocurrency-trading-pairs-explained-how-to-choose-the-right-one). It might help you, good luck with your journey.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jazmuzika217 on November 09, 2019, 09:08:33 AM
I think BTC trading is better rather than USDT because all we know that BTC is the most progressive coin. If we choose BTC specially in long term trading it is has more opportunity to earn or far from loss because all we know that btc is the most strongest and oldest coin here in crypto world so we can give our trust.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: MURONDI on November 09, 2019, 10:41:03 AM
depending on the situation and conditions, if bitcoin analysis will go up i will choose bitcoin, if bitcoin analysts will go down i will use usd, which is my goal when trading is usd, so I prioritize increasing USD balance over bitcoin, because the value of bitcoin is very unstable.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: michellee on November 09, 2019, 11:21:57 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

There is no right info for which you should choose whether trade bitcoin pair altcoin or usdt pair crypto because that will depend on each coin movement. Some time you can choose the first option, but at the other time, you choose the second option, and there is a need for more analysis to determine the coin. Besides that, you need more experience to find out the coin, and maybe you should analyze one by one of the coins. But for the clue, maybe you can try to analyze when the coin reaches a red candle so you might have the info.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: acdc on November 09, 2019, 11:32:33 AM
I am trying to collect more Bitcoin so I usually trade with BTC. If I see the market is about to plummet, I will sell the btc to USDT, then when the market goes up I will buy btc and trade with BTC.
BTC is the king of the cryptocurrency market and it is also a very potential coin, I believe in the future of the cryptocurrency market so increasing the number of BTC is my big goal.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Polar91 on November 09, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
In order for me to consider which market I should prefer to be partnered with my chosen altcoin, I consider no other than volume. Most likely, BTC market has a bigger volume but in some altcoins USDT is dominant. Regarding to your loss, try to acquire more skills that are relared for technical analysis such as plotting patters through using the previous period of time in market chart.  


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: tenakha on November 09, 2019, 12:15:57 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
There is truth in your idea. It makes sense to trade with BTC in the bull market and with USDT in the bear market. But that is not the main point, I think trend is more important. If you find the right direction, such small details will not interest you. On the other hand, you can only try USDT. At least you will not lose much when there is a drop.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Apened on November 09, 2019, 01:24:40 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Trading should be fun that's it, you don't have to stress yourself because if you have a good plan on trading and you know when to enter and exit that's the best time to be relax and wait for the trade. No matter what you have eother btc or usdt you can trade and make profit. I have both btc and usdt trades so there's no problem at all.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: rijaljun on November 09, 2019, 01:37:59 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Let me ask you, what do you care? Bitcoin or USD?
If you care about your Bitcoin then you should trade with Bitcoin, and forget about USD value. But if you actually just care about USD, then better to trade with USDT and don't bother with Bitcoin.

If you care both, then I suggest you to trade with Bitcoin when the Bitcoin price is stable (not really moving up or down) so your USD value in Bitcoin would not changes much. But when Bitcoin is up and down oftenly, then you better to trade with USDT.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Wexnident on November 09, 2019, 02:05:08 PM
I really doubt you could use USDT to perform trading while thinking of profits. Plus, BTC provides a lot of possible returns since, well, we all know how it has progressed from its starting point up to now. USDT is called a stable coin because it isn't volatile, BTC, on the other hand, is. Which makes it a lot more aligned with your goal, which is to earn a profit, which is through trading.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: target on November 09, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
I'm not sure what OP means but if you trade, its usually this pair that works best BTC/USDT.  This link proves it https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether/markets/

This pair ETH/USDT is no where you can find on top 10. Further down the list is where you can find some other pairs like XMX/USDT and LTC/USDT. Traders normally pick the BTC/USDT is because BTC fluctuates up to -$500 just as it did yesterday. If you happen to have shorted yesterday you probably have earned more than hundred bucks.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Ararbermas on November 09, 2019, 02:38:17 PM
both USDT/BTC in my own opinion. because USDT is a stable coin and it's really safe if you want to avoid losing profits . As the matter of fact I'm still using it to stock all my money. Wherein while still accumulating some profits through bitcoin , im so amaze because it's very reliable to trade with such coin which is less worries and no need to monitor afterwards . So i suggest do the same as well.  


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: cryptoangel on November 09, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
In trading platform Day trading, midterm trading and long term investment. So before to enter trading we can clear the steps, Then bear market and bull run are not concentrate the Mid term traders and long term investors so day traders are always available in the market. Finally every traders buy and sell at all the situation and still some beginners how to maintain the all the situation so we must gain some experience then only we can adopt the every situation.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: el kaka22 on November 09, 2019, 02:59:47 PM
Easy answer : btc. USDT is backed by a company called tether and they are based on Bahamas on a shady Bahamanian bank that has absolutely no regulation at all and they can claim that they have 1 billion dollars in their Bahamian bank account with just a single piece of paper which could be done by that bank being bribed easily.

Now, that is just one way they could have scammed people but these people came out as "we are backed 1 to 1" and then decided not to keep doing that, they started to literally just not back it 1 to 1 anymore and they are literally not backing it at all now. So, when you trade with USDT you are actually using a worthless piece of paper that has no value at all, that is literally the reason why binance stopped using it and that is why you should prefer bitcoin over usdt.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: zeze18 on November 09, 2019, 03:02:16 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

I always use BTC. Why ? because i trade for long time investment. I always collecting BTC as much as i can, no matter the price crash and not looking at my portofolio assets in dollars but in BTC.
As long i got profits in BTC i don't care if the BTC price crash because i'm sure in the future BTC price will booming and collecting BTC since right now is the best decission


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Colt81 on November 09, 2019, 03:18:11 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Having losses will definitely give you a headache and a lot of stress, especially if you're a beginner or a starter in trading. It will be better if you trade in bitcoin rather than USDT because USDT is a stable coin, which it is not profitable. Stablecoins are good for storing your funds to prevent having huge losses, so trading with bitcoin is the best choice because it is very profitable.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: clickerz on November 09, 2019, 04:10:59 PM
depending on the situation and conditions, if bitcoin analysis will go up i will choose bitcoin, if bitcoin analysts will go down i will use usd, which is my goal when trading is usd, so I prioritize increasing USD balance over bitcoin, because the value of bitcoin is very unstable.

Yeah, it depends on the situation but right now I think it is better to trade with BTC pair. Now is the right time to accumulate BTC and hold. Halving is coming and as we know, after halving, bitcoin price is appreciating at a faster speed. As for USDT, it is ok for daily trade, you see the value of your assets in the dollar and its to cash out too.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Shasha80 on November 09, 2019, 04:37:46 PM
In my opinion it's the same as trading using BTC or USDT pairs, the most important altcoins that we will choose for trading must
be right. Just invest in altcoins which are popular and have a large volume, if I personally more comfortable trading using USDT
pair because stable coins are very good for storing profit. Because we know the price of bitcoin is very volatile, if stored in BTC
the results of our trading profit can suddenly decrease or run out.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: ReiMomo on November 09, 2019, 05:14:24 PM
I prefer to use BTC pair when I am in trading, how could you earn a profit if you use the USDT which is a stable coin.
A stable coin like USDT is good for the diversity of Bitcoin when the price will go down. you can divert your Bitcoin to USDT to avoid losing value against the dollar and buy back again when the price of Bitcoin going upward. The volatility of bitcoin will make a profit when you are going to use this as a pair of trading.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: joshy23 on November 09, 2019, 05:21:12 PM
depending on the situation and conditions, if bitcoin analysis will go up i will choose bitcoin, if bitcoin analysts will go down i will use usd, which is my goal when trading is usd, so I prioritize increasing USD balance over bitcoin, because the value of bitcoin is very unstable.

Yeah, it depends on the situation but right now I think it is better to trade with BTC pair. Now is the right time to accumulate BTC and hold. Halving is coming and as we know, after halving, bitcoin price is appreciating at a faster speed. As for USDT, it is ok for daily trade, you see the value of your assets in the dollar and its to cash out too.
For daily trades USDT is good doing your scalping, there's chances that small movements can be appreciable for your time. There's traders who made some decent profits while using USDT pairs. Though it's still your research and skills that will allow you to earn to whatever types of market that will be there for you. Just be positive and take time to balance your investment.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: djsugar on November 09, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Most of the people care about the USDT value of their crypto because at the end they just want to convert it back into dollars or their domestic currency. Therefore, dollar appreciation is needed unless you're looking at very long term investment where your motive is to stack more and more BTC as then your main motive is to increase your BTC. But if you are in for day to short term trading, then dollar appreciation becomes crucial. For such you should focus on dollars and trade through USDT.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: exstasie on November 09, 2019, 07:45:37 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

I only ever trade BTC pairs, for 2 reasons.

1) The object is to accumulate more BTC. Trading against BTC is therefore better suited psychologically because you think in terms of gaining or losing BTC.

2) See the chart below, which is characteristic of virtually all altcoin/BTC relationships. The vast majority of the time, altcoins are downtrending against BTC. So my default orientation for trading against fiat is to hold BTC and trade BTCUSD. Watching BTC pairs allows me to recognize those rare periods where it is more profitable to hold altcoins. That's when I switch from trading BTCUSD to altcoin/BTC pairs.

https://i.imgur.com/LjSI3an.png


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Yamifoud on November 09, 2019, 11:43:30 PM
I've preferred to trade BTC over USDT for some reasons,

> the value of bitcoin is higher than of USD if I converted it into our local money
>the volatility is high which it helps me to gain more profit

The possible exponential market returns of trading BTC is something encouraging to look by and we can't deny that. So many reasons why most traders are using BTC for trade, but the main thing is that...Bitcoin gives more profit than USDT can't be like.



Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: the rise on November 10, 2019, 03:08:12 AM
BTC pair is better because it is more crowded, the price percentage range is shorter than USDT even though in the same percentage. But it must also be considered if BTC drops dramatically as it did on the 11th of yesterday, the assets must be immediately converted to USDT to protect the value of the asset and then actively trade again when BTC pair returns to green.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: rmhuntley on November 10, 2019, 03:46:00 AM
I prefer trading with a pair of BTC, because with a pair of BTC is more profitable than the USDT pair. Bitcoin is quick to climb, if USDT is always stable, so the BTC pair in my opinion is more profitable.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Subbir on November 10, 2019, 04:19:03 AM
USDT/BTC or BTC/USDT  pairs well for trade analysis thinking are medium and strong well so If you can figure out whether the market is good or not, then it is easy for you remembered that trade is always high risky USDT/BTC.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Shimmiry on November 10, 2019, 04:26:19 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
It depends on how your analysis based on,if you analyse the market based on USD increase and decrease then you have to try stable coin pair like USDT and if you analyse against BTC value then picking btc pair is right choice but suggested one will be trading against bitcoin which gets double benefits or more compared to stable pair,use stable coin to convert your profits made from two volatile pair.

The value of the USDT is just a mirror or the same duplicate of the value of the us dollar. It converted into the use of cryptocurrency. If you try to convert your usdt into the bitcoin still to earn profit, it depends on the value of the bitcoin. It is good if the value of the bitcoin are over 9500 us dollars, but today, the price was not reasonable right now. The usdt is one of the most stable coins today because it depends on the real value of the USD dollar again.

depending on the situation and conditions, if bitcoin analysis will go up i will choose bitcoin, if bitcoin analysts will go down i will use usd, which is my goal when trading is usd, so I prioritize increasing USD balance over bitcoin, because the value of bitcoin is very unstable.

We all prioritize in trading are gaining profit it has a good point that if you have usdt and the price of the bitcoin is too low better to hold your coins because it has a significant value, but if the bitcoin has the biggest value today it is better to trade your currencies because usdt are just stable coin.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: riso2015 on November 10, 2019, 05:01:42 AM
I personally still choose a pair with BTC for my trading, But when the market conditions are in a Bearish state, I will use the USDT pair. Using the USDT pair I think is suitable for securing your assets, keeping the value of your assets stagnant. We know that the price of BTC is volatile, while USDT is stable.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: piebeyb on November 10, 2019, 05:05:44 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
depending on the capital you have, consistent is the key when you are in a bullish / bearish market, if I only have a small capital usually I will take the BTC pair to the doge because the value is cheap, but if using large capital usually leads to ETH / BTC, whereas for USDT pairs usually look for altcoin that has a high trading volume, a little advice you need to learn it first with a smaller capital


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Landak on November 10, 2019, 06:30:10 AM
depending on your choice, the bull/bear market for trading in USDT is quite worth it. for the BTC pair in my opinion is most suitable when it is a bull moment. I suggest looking for other options such as altcoin pairs.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: topbitcoin on November 10, 2019, 10:25:22 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I think in any condition, BTC still easier than USDT. Or at least, usually BTC has more pairs than USDT in market. That is what i know, and then with bitcoin, you can make advantage from it's volatily. Like when you trade and get profit, and then bitcoin price increased, it is like double profit for you. It can be better than USDT which categorized as stable coin.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: samcrypto on November 10, 2019, 11:18:13 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Quit trading if this is the cause of your headache and start learning first. You can trade any pairs of coins but it will still depend on your plan and strategy. If I were you, you don’t trade much with bitcoin because its a precious coin to me and it will go up soon so better to hold. Trading is a hard job, you must learn it on your own and start putting big efforts on that.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Istiaque on November 10, 2019, 11:46:57 AM
Quit trading if this is the cause of your headache and start learning first. You can trade any pairs of coins but it will still depend on your plan and strategy. If I were you, you don’t trade much with bitcoin because its a precious coin to me and it will go up soon so better to hold. Trading is a hard job, you must learn it on your own and start putting big efforts on that.

You are the right trading market first rule learning first before trading or money are losses concurrency market followed some secrete rules. i dong know the rules just idea.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: BigBos on November 10, 2019, 01:43:54 PM
I began to think that holding USDT is a very good thing when prices start to dump, for whatever condition USDT has a stable price, so a dump so deep, the price of assets that we hold will be stable. it's just that, most people might choose bitcoin in trading, because we also don't know when prices will pump high. when you buy USDT when the price is dump, and the price of the pump suddenly goes unnoticed, the assets you have remain stable. different from bitcoin. if you hold bitcoin, of course you have profit.

I honestly don't really know that trading uses USDT, because you can only take advantage of it when prices are going to dump. However, doing stock at the right time will make you have a large amount of bitcoin by using USDT. but, so far I have prepared bitcoin whether it's bear or bull.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jets567 on November 10, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
I began to think that holding USDT is a very good thing when prices start to dump, for whatever condition USDT has a stable price, so a dump so deep, the price of assets that we hold will be stable.

This is the common practice of traders to minimize loss of their coin/token but I would not recommend holding USDT for a long time since its a stable coin which means you will not gain so much from it compare on holding Bitcoin or other potential altcoins. AFAIK only few people are trading with Bitcoin because they knew that Bitcoin is good for holding in the long run and majority of the traders goal is short-term trading only.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: AbuBhakar on November 10, 2019, 02:59:28 PM
depending on your choice, the bull/bear market for trading in USDT is quite worth it. for the BTC pair in my opinion is most suitable when it is a bull moment. I suggest looking for other options such as altcoin pairs.
Usdt is good as temporary investment only to stop loss in BTC or even in other alts tha are too volatile. I prefer to have BTC more in bear realistic amount since it doesn't fall too much or if does the other day it can increase a bit which is good for day trading. Alts were too dangerous but fine with if in top 10 maybe.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: imstillthebest on November 10, 2019, 03:29:11 PM
Usdt is good as temporary investment only to stop loss in BTC or even in other alts tha are too volatile. I prefer to have BTC more in bear realistic amount since it doesn't fall too much or if does the other day it can increase a bit which is good for day trading. Alts were too dangerous but fine with if in top 10 maybe.

it can also work as a long term investment so that you can kept the value of you btc  . like you i also prefer btc in a volatile market because i have a good feeling that the price can jump pretty easily after it got dump harder  but you are wrong when you say btc does not fall too much  . btc actually is the only coin that can fall too deep as when compare to other crypto coins  . its good for day trading because its too volatile while stable coins  ? no i dont think so . not just alts but all coins are dangerous or risky including on the top 100 list .


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: justdimin on November 10, 2019, 03:30:19 PM
I would say if you want to use a stablecoin that would make your life easier I would highly suggest USDC, these days that is getting more fame and for some reason people really like it more compared to others, USDT is definitely not something anyone should ever touch, it is horrible and it only gives horrible results when an exchange you use delists them and leaves you with just cashing out.

I tried to really find a place to just withdraw and turn into bitcoin which took me extra 4-5 steps to turn into bitcoin and cash out instead of simply click trade and be done with it, your exchange could have USDT now but that doesn't mean they will have it forever, they could delist it at any moment which would hurt your chances of easy cashing out or withdrawal to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: sujonali1819 on November 10, 2019, 03:48:22 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

All pair is required to trade. But it depends on the trend. You need to know about this trend. Normally we follow some trends, for example, altcoins will increase as BTC increases. And altcoins will decrease as BTC increases and another is altcoins will increase as BTC decrease. So if you can take these trends into your control then you will understand when to trade in BTC pair and when to trade in USDT pair.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Murat on November 10, 2019, 03:50:22 PM
Trading with Bitcoin is one of the most efficient ways to make a profit if you can manage it properly, I believe if you can predict about the Bitcoin price then this would be the great thing for you but it contains a lot of risks, you know, without taking a risk you can't get a good amount of profit, but if you can hold your Bitcoin for a long term purpose then it might be a good decision for getting back your capital with a handsome amount of profit, that's why I prefer holding Bitcoin to trading with Bitcoin, if you want to trade with BTC pair then the case is different, for me the holding is the best policy.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Mumbeeptind1963 on November 10, 2019, 05:09:04 PM
When we are in bearish trend then its better to use stable coin pair for short term trading since we are not going to lose much if the price of bitcoin dumped while you are in trading but if its bullish trend then it should be bitcoin pair since you might get double benefits if the price increases meanwhile.
I likely to trade using bitcoin , but always depends on the market, I am not a professional trader but try to look to usd/btc pair, when bitcoin is currently down I think it is more good to buy it since it will be more convinient and you may buy many of it if you have money or its because it is quite cheaper now compare to before use your USD, but when usd is slighly low then trade your bitcoin to it. Its a vice versa.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: liuqi on November 10, 2019, 06:37:33 PM
Every traders using both BTC and USDT because these both coins mostly used cryptos in the exchanges and we people really care these to stabilize the value.
BTC is being invested to get the heavy returns and usdt to hold the fund in very safe.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 10, 2019, 06:41:37 PM
Due to the current market situation, it is better to take a risk and the best risk for now is to leave everything in Bitcoin, the reason is simple, the market has been going through a somewhat long accumulation stage, for my particular analysis based on the theory Wyckoff is already in the presence of the bullish trend.

Volatility is likely to be high, you can see many lows, but the trend is bullish, just knowing this information, is enough to hold everything in Bitcoin.

If we add that some countries in crisis, such as Venezuela and Argentina, are taking Bitcoin as a refuge and the global adoption of Bitcoin and Blockchain, this suggests that we will have an excellent increase in the demand for Bitcoin, causing the price to skyrocket at any time, and if this happens, it is better to have it in Bitcoin than in USDT, and if the world economy collapses, we will have refuge in Bitcoin. Then it is advisable to do Trading with the BTC / USDT, or Alt / BTC, and hold in BTC, in my particular case, my trading is: BTC / USDT and Alt / USDT where USDT then passed it to BTC.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: DeathProxy on November 10, 2019, 07:45:27 PM
Trading with Bitcoin is the best for me given to the fact that it can easily increase during the trade.  But as a trader after trading with bitcoin its advisable to close the trade and use USDT as stop loss. Reason for this is that due to the volatile nature of bitcoin and how it can dump over night irs better to use usdt as the stop loss mechanism since usdt its a stable coin which does not dump.  So no matter how btc dump your dollar value remains intact


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: rodel caling on November 10, 2019, 08:56:05 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.


If are a busy do not trade daily I suggest for long trade and wait the new all time high to huge profits like during last ath way baxk in year 2017.
I didutrade USDt to BTC I trade BTC to altcoins even during the bear market is ongoing, in trading need a good timing and focus to nonitor which coins can potentially give an profits. Need to study well and understanding well what you are prepared in trasing to avoid risk and waste time.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: pamsugas on November 10, 2019, 11:07:51 PM
if trading daily you should use a USDT pair to maintain the value of a trader.
BTC pairs are too risky because BTC values are very volatile.
I suggest also to trade in large volumes so that it is easy to trade.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: TravelMug on November 10, 2019, 11:38:21 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

No doubt that BTC pairing is the preferred choice of traders around. Of course USDT is a good hedge specially if the bring is going down, however, I had a bad experienced with USDT early so I don't used them anymore.

So if I'm in your used, BTC pairing is the best, I understand that you have headaches with crypto trading, who wouldn't though? Specially in this bear market, you really need to be very careful, just saying and goodluck.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: julius caesar on November 11, 2019, 12:44:51 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
If you will ask me, I suggest you to trade with USDT for stability purposes. If you trade with BTC, the tendency is that even though you don't have an open position, you can lose your money since Bitcoin is basically bases on the supply and demand. On the other hand, USDT is backed by USD thus its value is stable, making your trade safer.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: iv4n on November 11, 2019, 09:27:17 AM
Its basically a trading, you need to know to find a perfect pair for yourself. BTC/USDT is one of the good pairs, and probably the most used one.  There's no need for more explanations about it, we calculate in dollars and you know for how many dollars you sell and buy, dollar is the stable coin and you move bitcoins to usdt  or vice versa, depending on the market situation.
But there are many other pairs, BTC/ANY ALT or any other pair, and now many of alts are paired with usdt, few years ago that wasn't like that.
Personally I use BTC/USDT sometimes, when I plan to short, I move bitcoins to USDT wait for price to drop and then buy and I have more bitcoins. But I like others pairs as well.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: KallyFowler67 on November 11, 2019, 09:33:31 AM
I prefer to trade BIC. It's a rather stable and easy currency. Recently I opened https://www.monfex-academy.com/masterclass-refers-new (https://www.monfex-academy.com/masterclass-refers-new) for myself.
It helps to trade without any problems, easy methods and tutors are helping to find the way how to trade right. You will learn trading concepts and will know how to get money online.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Dart18 on November 11, 2019, 09:43:39 AM
USDT with what? Or BTC with what?
Why not use that pair? BTC against USDT and vice versa. Just the same for me.
If you are looking to pair it with an altcoin then that would be a different league.

You will need to look at the history of the certain altcoin. But just by looking and the graphs, they are all reds. It will be difficult to make profit out of them since there is no assurance if they will be fluctuating up, mostly down. You will be risking too much specially if you are a day trader.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: bettercrypto on November 11, 2019, 01:04:32 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
If you want not to confuse with the price then try to trade in USDT market. But there is more accuracy in BTC market. Why? Because we can trade in the closest value of our target price uaing satoshi. However, I am trading in usdt pair because I want an assurance that I will execute the amount I want. I am more confuse in btc pair specially if bitcoin to altcoin.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: danherbias07 on November 11, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
Yeah you might want to keep it as USDT during the bear market and BTC during bull. But how will you predict it.
And also, what if the bear market is taking long? USDT is like a freaking time bomb, it could go off anytime.
That means it will include all your money in there. Say goodbye to it afterwards without a fight.

If you could somehow have some good technical analysis into when the bull market will come then it is good.
But that is the problem with the volatile market of bitcoin. You will just never know.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: alexsandria on November 11, 2019, 02:23:03 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

I'll go with both. Yep it is all about time though but you might be wrong in timing I guess so? Have you read about trading tips some stuff about. Try to understand it more mate. Though it is quite complicated to trade in btc during bull specially if it is on its run you don't either know when it will stop, go higher more or lower. Anyway, to secure your stuff try to trade USDT during bear and bitcoin AFTER bull in next few days? Something like that.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: merutu453 on November 11, 2019, 02:39:00 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I believe trading with USDT is riskier, but it is better to do so long-term unless there is a clear investment strategy. Anyway, you have to trade and learn that. Is there anyone who can write to me


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: crossabdd on November 12, 2019, 09:40:09 AM
bullish or bearish, I still use BTC and ETH pairs. I have never used the pair USD / USDT. because in my opinion greater price fluctuations in the pair BTC / ETH than USD / USDT. and give me more profit. basically it is the same. but not all coins that I trade are in USD / T pairs, so I prefer the BTC pair. because more coins and can provide a daily profit target.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: youdacapt on November 12, 2019, 09:55:38 AM
Two opposite market conditions will still be worse for the USDT pair compared to BTC, especially when trends are extreme.

I use both because the most important thing is the right time to open an order. usdt pairs for certain coins sometimes there are not many traders with a wide range of buy and sell orders, and from here it is not uncommon to get a higher profit from the coin pair against btc at that time.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: noormcs5 on November 17, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
Two opposite market conditions will still be worse for the USDT pair compared to BTC, especially when trends are extreme.

I use both because the most important thing is the right time to open an order. usdt pairs for certain coins sometimes there are not many traders with a wide range of buy and sell orders, and from here it is not uncommon to get a higher profit from the coin pair against btc at that time.

I always prefer to use BTC market as it is easy to calculate profit and loss and the target for the BTC market is to increase our bitcoin Satoshi.
Sometime the USD trading is more profitable but it is difficult to understand by most of the newbies traders.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: nreal on November 17, 2019, 05:55:49 PM
If you only want to make a steady profit, trading with USDT is a good option in both bull and bear markets. But with the bull market, if you trade with a pair of BTC you can get a double profit if the price of BTC increases.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: FrankNoland on November 17, 2019, 07:53:57 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I always trade BTC against tether, I believe in trading speculative against stable currencies, it's actually the easiest way to make profit if you pay attention to the market, and you should be patient too or you will lose money


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: bohr on November 17, 2019, 08:34:54 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
You should not give a preference to only one of them and should watch how altcoins perform against both pairs, and it is simple to understand why, if an altcoin is going up against the dollar but it is going down against bitcoin then there is no point in holding that altcoin when bitcoin is giving more profits, but if the altcoin is going up against bitcoin but it is going down against the dollar then the market is crashing and the altcoin is just doing it more slowly and it is better to just hold dollars at that point.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: pgbit on November 18, 2019, 01:32:49 AM
When trading an Altcoin, j usually prefer the USDT pair except in exchanges where some Altcoins are not offered this pair and then I settle for either Bitcoin or Ethereum pairs, but on a normal day, I would always choose the USDT pair because it's far easier to track profit that way for me especially when bitcoin price is so volatile and it saves me the stress of having to convert to a stablecoin when I want to get out and wait for Bitcoin price to either go down or stabilise before j get in again.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: AliMan on November 18, 2019, 02:32:39 AM
Choosing these two currency is a wise decision, while seeking a sustainable asset. If you're a holder and you wanted to earn a good potential with your asset, usdt has no bigger drop during fluctuations so that's good when trading bitcoin while you're waiting for some declined value. The price won't go down at higher percentage, and you'll be able to hold enough amount of crypto in order to control your possible loss. Both usdt and BTC will be a good match for trading on short or long term goals.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: ancafe on November 18, 2019, 07:42:34 AM
I prefer bitcoin in investment matters. other than because of decentralization, bitcoin is not influenced by the people who develop it and the price is very volatile which causes the price to go up high at any time, or vice versa.
however, USDT is a stable coin and is backed up with dollars. it's just that many issues say that USDT is not fully backed up with dollars, and can even be used as a tool to manipulate. because of this, the volume of use of USDT is greater than any crypto. in the long run, I prefer bitcoin over USDT. besides, I'm not very good at utilizing USDT.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: NeironixNV on November 18, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

It depends on what you want to earn, Bitcoin or Dollar. But the virtuosos of trading first trade the cue ball against the dollar, and after the cue ball grows well, they begin to shift it into altcoins, and at that moment the trader also earns huge profits in bitcoins, first in dollars on the growth of bitcoin and then in bitcoins on the growth altcoins and then again.  ::)


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 18, 2019, 03:41:46 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
In my case I am not really consigned with whether its USDT or BTC I only trade based on chart analysis i.e candlestick formation irrespective of the pair eg BTC/USD, BNB/BTC, ETH/BTC  etc during bull or bear market  I look at the price action and check areas where I can buy or sell with stop loss and take profit, you should try analyse and devise better way to trade with those pair that making you to lose your trades.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Sri rahayu on November 20, 2019, 02:21:50 PM
It depends on what you want to be, I prefer to use pair BTC, at least, i can collect Btc little by little from trading profits. Because my goal is to collect BTC. Just a suggestion, use your techniques for trading, and don't use emotions in trading. CMIIW


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Iceblast on November 20, 2019, 04:09:27 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
btc as long as bullish might be more profitable if we are smart to manage the trade. so I think maybe now the market situation remains the main determinant, whether trading with btc / usdt still has the influence of each


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: mersal on November 20, 2019, 05:30:58 PM
IMHO,trading with a stable pair will be easier compared to BTC pair,so if someone new to crypto trading they can learn the things with stable pair but holding your profits in stable coins is just wasting your asset value so either trade again for a volatile coin or cashout for your use or reinvest into other stuffs with less ROI and more secured way.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: BitHodler on November 20, 2019, 08:25:03 PM
It depends on what you want to be, I prefer to use pair BTC, at least, i can collect Btc little by little from trading profits. Because my goal is to collect BTC. Just a suggestion, use your techniques for trading, and don't use emotions in trading. CMIIW
Most people prefer Bitcoin pairs, but the thing I never liked is the risk of volatility that you constantly are subjected to, which means that the paper fiat gains that you made could turn into paper losses even though you have more Satoshis.

Of course, if your sole goal is to collect more Satoshis regardless of the volatility, then using Bitcoin pairs is a smart option. I personally find it more important to not expose myself to unnecessary so I will always prefer to trade crypto versus fiat.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: BaseFEX on November 22, 2019, 11:04:21 AM
If your belief is BTC will go up, go with BTC because you will be doubling the long.
But if you are uncertain of BTC's future price, you might want to consider using a stable coin because you won't be suffering, or gaining, from BTC's volatility.

We were the world's first to offer USDT perpetual contracts and that was under a lot of traders' request. Right now we are witnessing larger turnovers on USDT-based pairs than BTC-based pairs (probably because of the dip):
https://i.imgur.com/RM3lnsz.png
https://i.imgur.com/g1R0PCo.png


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: silversurfer1958 on November 22, 2019, 11:59:18 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
BTCUSDT is the pair where I usually place lots of orders because I understand how it moves and it makes me easier to win. in fact pairs are not so important, it is important that you have a good feeling in which pair and that will increase your odds of winning.
You can execute more than 20 orders in BTCUSDT pair to see if you fit the pair. Don't be afraid to try, it will help you to have more experience.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Cookies_N_Cream on November 30, 2019, 04:53:43 PM
Bitcoin’s volatility makes it a bit risky for margin trading. When you short BTC using BTC, you lose more than you should since your margin becomes less valuable along the way.
I consider usdt as a better alternative to BTC due to their stability.
I genuinely believe that stablecoin-settled contracts may help derivatives market to grow bigger as they could attract traders, who are just starting margin trading. I tried usdt-settled contracts on Basefex a while ago, and it went pretty well. However, I prefer to use BTC since the profit can be bigger.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Kocret02 on December 01, 2019, 04:37:27 AM
with the BTC passage it might be more rational if in my opinion, because with the BTC market the profit will get and now if you use USDT profit will not be able to get quickly, because USDT is a stable coin


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: matchi2011 on December 01, 2019, 05:40:48 AM
with the BTC passage it might be more rational if in my opinion, because with the BTC market the profit will get and now if you use USDT profit will not be able to get quickly, because USDT is a stable coin
If you do more with scalping usdt can be perform and let you get something good but if you are into long term btc is much prefer to engage.
the profits due to volatile market is possible to be much better when you know how to research and anticipate the next market trends.
It's your own option  to whatever decision making to take.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: rez303 on December 01, 2019, 09:03:06 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I think we should trade the BTCUSDT pair. because it is the dominant pair of crypto market. when the price of the bitcoin dump seems to be heavily impacted by the market. Therefore, we should analyze the BTCUSDT chart to infer the results of the other alts.
This is the strategy I often use and it also helped me to make a lot of money when trading margin.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: dragon695 on December 01, 2019, 09:18:49 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
When bull and bear appeared, I still used the BTC and USDT pairs to trade. because I'm familiar with the pair and of course, I still have a good hunch about its volatility. Besides, I usually trade margin and always make money even when the market goes down. In addition, it will depend on your ability and perseverance to practice a lot. I encourage you to trade on this pair and practice the strategies with it. Who knows, maybe you'll make more bitcoins.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: nicolas1979 on December 01, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

First you must MACD to read market direction from there you can choose any pair you like. I can't suggest you any pair because the important thing is how to read market direction. Don't push to hard use specific pairs because you can't control market, so follow the market and get out before too late.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: skiorf on December 02, 2019, 02:07:26 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
it looks like what you are doing is correct, namely by trading with the BTC pair during the bullish market or the USDT pair in the bear market. only that might have to be a concern when buying and selling. because in my opinion using the two pairs is the same, the most important thing is to get profit when trading, because that's the main goal.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: marcous on December 02, 2019, 04:05:25 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.


I personally prefer a BTC pair ... it all depends on how you manage when you take profit and what style you choose. long term or fast trader.  If fast trader/day trader try not too much intake profit because of volatile price movements and can not be guessed. or it could be partly you hold and partly for the short term. so if the price goes down, some of the capital can be used to buy back


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: wxa7115 on December 13, 2019, 06:56:49 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
It is impossible to give a general answer to this because it will depend entirely on the coin that we are talking about and what it is doing at that particular moment, however I prefer to trade altcoins against bitcoin because what I'm trying to do is not to get more fiat but to get more bitcoin and then keep holding that bitcoin until it gives me the results that I want.

But that is just my personal preference I suppose there are others that do not really believe in what bitcoin can achieve and they prefer to get fiat instead which is reasonable if you ask me.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Slow death on December 13, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

It's been over a month since you created this thread and I hope you have time to read all the posts made in this thread.

I imagine your biggest question is the question about:

how to know when will have a bearish reversal and a bullish reversal... in short your problem is knowing what time to buy and what time to sell and make a profit in the day trade. right? If you have a great knowledge of technical analysis then you will have the answer to the question you asked in this thread.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Chrystora123 on December 13, 2019, 08:10:16 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I rarely use USDT pairs, I prefer to use Bitcoin pairs.  I usually use USDT (stable coins) only to move assets in the Bear market, so when the market returns to Bullish I can immediately buy my assets back.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Negotiation on December 14, 2019, 07:37:10 AM
I think BTC trading is better rather than USDT because all we know that BTC is the most progressive coin. If we choose BTC specially in long term trading it is has more opportunity to earn or far from loss because all we know that btc is the most strongest and oldest coin here in crypto world so we can give our trust.

I agree with you because the trade on bitcoin is much stronger than mine and either USDT Most people trade on Bitcoin and it is very popular. Everything depends on the situation and everything gets better over time That's why bitcoin is better than USDT.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Arkann on December 14, 2019, 09:37:03 AM
I think BTC trading is better rather than USDT because all we know that BTC is the most progressive coin. If we choose BTC specially in long term trading it is has more opportunity to earn or far from loss because all we know that btc is the most strongest and oldest coin here in crypto world so we can give our trust.

I agree with you because the trade on bitcoin is much stronger than mine and either USDT Most people trade on Bitcoin and it is very popular. Everything depends on the situation and everything gets better over time That's why bitcoin is better than USDT.
The fact is that it is better to choose Bitcoin for trading, because in this situation you have the opportunity to earn thanks to the volatility of this coin.  A USDT coin with an almost stable price and it is almost impossible to make money on the difference in price.  In any case, USDT is a very good stable coin, which can be used to stabilize its assets during the fall of the cryptocurrency market in order to avoid large losses.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: stiffbud on December 14, 2019, 01:43:51 PM
I think BTC trading is better rather than USDT because all we know that BTC is the most progressive coin. If we choose BTC specially in long term trading it is has more opportunity to earn or far from loss because all we know that btc is the most strongest and oldest coin here in crypto world so we can give our trust.

I agree with you because the trade on bitcoin is much stronger than mine and either USDT Most people trade on Bitcoin and it is very popular. Everything depends on the situation and everything gets better over time That's why bitcoin is better than USDT.
The fact is that it is better to choose Bitcoin for trading, because in this situation you have the opportunity to earn thanks to the volatility of this coin.  A USDT coin with an almost stable price and it is almost impossible to make money on the difference in price.  In any case, USDT is a very good stable coin, which can be used to stabilize its assets during the fall of the cryptocurrency market in order to avoid large losses.
I preciously used to think that selling my coins in USDT isn't a good idea at all as it is a stable coin and no growth can happen in it, but as the market crashes then keeping your money in USDT is the best thing you can do as then you will be having a great chance to buy back your bitcoins at a cheap rate. But in case of a bear market then you should always keep trading in bitcoins as the price of bitcoin will also increase along with the other coin that you are trading against.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 14, 2019, 02:03:44 PM
To be honest I never traded alt coins with USD/USDT pair. Because for me I don't see any valid point to do it. There is only point if you like limited profits and want to payout regularly. I like trade atlcoins with bitcoin pair only either bear or bull markets. Because my target is increase my bitcoin instead of USD. But yes, I trade sometimes btc/usd pair, not with altcoin. For example you start with $5K and it's worth of 0.7BTC right now (current btc price $7200). And Someone start trading with 0.7BTC. Imagine both of you have double, you made $10K and other end 1.4 btc. If btc start bull rally and goes to $15K then you will have still $10K but other end fund will be double again. Now you can say btc price would dump, but I have believe it will pump again any time and I will hold till then. So for me I will trade with only btc.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Ucy on December 15, 2019, 03:09:25 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

Guess you should focus on USDT pair to avoid complicating your trading.  Stablecoins do not have as much trading pair as Bitcoin though.. they are mostly good for escaping market volatility whether in bear of bull market.
Just keep your funds in stablecoin, then use the fund to trade usdt pairs.. You could basically keep buying the pairs low and selling high with your stablecoin reserve.
If you more concerned about trading fee, trading pair like Litecoin would probably do.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: the rise on December 15, 2019, 04:37:04 PM
usdt pair only for when btc falls, i mean sell btc for asset protection measures. and use btc pairs with altcoin when back in sideway mode. trading with btc is much faster than tether because it only takes a few satoshi to see the percent ratio, often I do because I'm comfortable doing this, sometimes also try with pax etc.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: pajak666 on December 15, 2019, 09:04:52 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
If you are bullish on crypto market overall it makes sense to trade in BTC as it provides you with a longterm leverage. Although the risk Is bigger too. If you are shorting crypto then it makes sense to stick to USD so you max your longterm value potential.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: princerepon on December 15, 2019, 09:40:18 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I rarely use USDT pairs, I prefer to use Bitcoin pairs.  I usually use USDT (stable coins) only to move assets in the Bear market, so when the market returns to Bullish I can immediately buy my assets back.

It's rare that i trade with USDT. I choose maximum time BTC pair doesn't matter which market is running (bear/bull). Many People will suggest that bear for BTC and Bull for USDT which is right also. But in my opinion if you are new trader then choosing USDT pair (for any situation) is good for you. Because USDT is stable coin more than BTC. So in bad situation you don't have to worry about too much for your asset if market will fall suddenly when you are offline.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Btc_1856 on December 16, 2019, 05:20:48 AM
It is always good to trade with Bitcoin, instead of USDT because Bitcoin fluctuation is unpredictable, which the value of holding will decrease in the market. Instead of trading with USDT, it is good to convert to USDT after making some profits with the BTC trading pair.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: ultrloa on December 16, 2019, 06:41:01 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
If you are bullish on crypto market overall it makes sense to trade in BTC as it provides you with a longterm leverage. Although the risk Is bigger too. If you are shorting crypto then it makes sense to stick to USD so you max your longterm value potential.

Agree since if people still not confident with the movements of BTC and want to have a good relief in terms of volatility then they should go with USDT since it will bring convenience to the traders who want a passive amount that will never devalued by market movement. But if they can go with the flow and want to risk their capital then they should go on BTC since the profitability of it could bring a longterm impact if he can able to hold his guts and emotion upon trading.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: beerlover on December 16, 2019, 07:54:43 AM
Ever since tether came out to be a fraud company that stole peoples money and there is not enough dollars to back the tethers I do not use them. Anyone that uses tether right now have two reasons why, first one is they didn't know tether was a fraud scam company (which they could by simply googling their name) or the second one which is they don't care.

Some people just want to trade and they are willing to use exchanges and their tether options because they know they don't care about the tether itself, they care about ease of trading and after their trading is over they go back to bitcoin and withdraw that, so all they used tether for was trading purposes. I am not that type of person and I had tether a bit before I realized their scam and I sold it all to bitcoin last year and now I never use it.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: StephenieDuong on December 16, 2019, 01:44:19 PM
I used to trade alt/btc, but i can not control when to take profit/cut loss. It really difficult to trade because we need to watch many things at the same time, sometime alt/btc increase and then btc/usdt down which make all profit gone. So i suggest trading with usdt pair only and you will know this is the best way to control yours order.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Divinespark on December 16, 2019, 02:03:05 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Depending on your purpose. You want to trade to increase your USDT balance or increase the number of BTC. Personally, I prefer to increase the amount of USDT in the bear market because during this period the price of BTC is very unstable, it can make us lose if converted to USDT. Increasing the number of BTC is only suitable when you are in the bull market, then you will get double profits if you make this trading pair


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: ajeef on December 16, 2019, 02:15:45 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

On this bearish market it's better to trade with BTC pair because we have to collect btc as many as we could and if the price of btc rising, we'll have double profits from btc and from the btc pair that we trade alts before. But if btc price is going down, don't worry we'll not losing any BTC and just wait for the BTC rising because in a long run btc must be higher than right now.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: JessicaVL on December 18, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

USDT is my go to. I generally trade BTC/USDT and when markets are really bad and there is no place for profits, I generally move my USDT to OTC desks or P2P platforms like Vertex.market (https://vertex.market) so I can still make some profits at a bad time.

The only issue is that trades are not instant as you need to wait for someone to actually buy your offering but I usually see profits of 4-6% if I get bank wire deals as the fees are low.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: marcous on December 29, 2019, 04:55:35 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

On this bearish market it's better to trade with BTC pair because we have to collect btc as many as we could and if the price of btc rising, we'll have double profits from btc and from the btc pair that we trade alts before. But if btc price is going down, don't worry we'll not losing any BTC and just wait for the BTC rising because in a long run btc must be higher than right now.


yes, approaching Halving day, it will be more beneficial if you use Pair BTC. But still have to remember the risk because the price of an unstable BTC could even make a loss. Don't forget to secure your capital and profits. before trading, it would be nice to analyze and not rush to take decisions.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Karmakid on December 29, 2019, 05:04:42 AM
I would say that it depends on your goal if which one do you want to grow in long term basis. If you are always after the fiat currency then there is nothing bad about trading with USDT because it makes sure that you will have a fixed currency to trade so you will not lose its value because of the volatility. Trading with bitcoin is only good for people who want to maximize the chance of making more money at the end because the value of bitcoin is believed to get up to 100k usd in the future.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Blackdeath on December 29, 2019, 03:50:00 PM
I would say that it depends on your goal if which one do you want to grow in long term basis. If you are always after the fiat currency then there is nothing bad about trading with USDT because it makes sure that you will have a fixed currency to trade so you will not lose its value because of the volatility. Trading with bitcoin is only good for people who want to maximize the chance of making more money at the end because the value of bitcoin is believed to get up to 100k usd in the future.
I think it would be better if you will trade with bitcoin because it is much better for long-term, unlike going for USDT it doesn't make a huge movement on it's price becayse it is only a stable coin, so you should go for bitcoin even it's price is volatile because there is a chance to double your profit in the future.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: johnwest on December 29, 2019, 05:26:30 PM
I always trade with BTC as my investments were started from BTC and not USDT. Being a long term trader, holding BTC would be more secure and profitable idea and USDT is kinda not that preferred.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: FLoving on December 29, 2019, 05:47:37 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.

On this bearish market it's better to trade with BTC pair because we have to collect btc as many as we could and if the price of btc rising, we'll have double profits from btc and from the btc pair that we trade alts before. But if btc price is going down, don't worry we'll not losing any BTC and just wait for the BTC rising because in a long run btc must be higher than right now.
It is right that in this time we have to collect BTC as much as possible but it is also not wrong that in this bearish market not everyone can trade because in this market only much expert traders can make some amount as they know what to do at what position of the price, therefor if someone is not much expert then they have to just hold their coins and wait for the best time.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: BuNga_cute on December 29, 2019, 06:56:14 PM
We must be able to have the right strategy to be able to determine the right pairing for altcoins. Actually for those who have
knowledge and experience in the crypto world will understand how to determine pairing. In my opinion if there is a bull market
BTC pairing should be used, because altcoin with BTC pairing the price will rise. While if there is a bearish market, then use USDT
pairing. If we use USDT pairing, it is safer, because USDT is not affected by the bearish market.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: leowonderful on December 29, 2019, 07:06:21 PM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.

There's still plenty of opportunities everywhere, however. Find what you like and stick with it, because anything can become viable if you start looking at it the right way.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: suzanne5223 on December 29, 2019, 08:22:33 PM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.

There's still plenty of opportunities everywhere, however. Find what you like and stick with it, because anything can become viable if you start looking at it the right way.
Anything can work achievable to ones success but the last time i checked it can't be achieved by just looking alone because the right action and knowledge/information is also needed.
Nevertheless, BTC pairs isn't a bad idea now that halving is coming but converting to stablecoin isnt a bad idea either because the current is highly manipulated and conversion stablecoins is needed to keep ones profit intact.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: AakZaki on December 30, 2019, 04:43:08 AM
I think your choice is correct to trade with the BTC pair during the bullish market or the USDT pair in the bear market, maybe you are just wrong when opening a trading position so that it gives you a headache. that way you have to learn again the right way to trade, the basis that needs to be learned is how to know when the right time to buy and sell. so it might be able to minimize your losses.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: SoeNan89 on December 30, 2019, 05:32:46 AM
In my opinion, if in a Bearish situation the pair with USDT is suitable because with USDT we will get a fixed and stable asset value, not falling and not rising. Whereas if in a Bullish situation the pair with BTC is the right choice.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: killerfrost on December 30, 2019, 06:01:35 AM
In the current bear market, I always choose to trade USDT. It is the safest option possible for me because I can control my losses and profits easily during the day. The bear market is very fierce, so the choice of trading BTC will not be appropriate, it will make you not get too much profit if the BTC price keeps going down. But if you want to increase the number of BTC then of course you should trade in pairs BTC / altcoin and do not care about the current market price.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Xxmodded on December 30, 2019, 08:56:06 AM
Depend with how bitcoin price, when bitcoin looks green with higher price better you use BTC as your trading peer, but when bitcoin have lower price you hold and trading with USD peer, USD always stable price and if down just 1% and higher about 2%, you never get lost much money if convert your assets in USD and take much profit when bitcoin have higher price and convert to be bitcoin peer.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: ultrloa on December 30, 2019, 09:14:09 AM
This question will depends on what they prefer since if they can risk to play on the bearish market which could give them high chances of losing the value or gain with it then he should go with BTC but if he's new and want to get a fix gain then USDT is perfect pair for anyone since we all know whatever happen on the market the value of USDT will remain the same.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: boris singer on December 30, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
This question will depends on what they prefer since if they can risk to play on the bearish market which could give them high chances of losing the value or gain with it then he should go with BTC but if he's new and want to get a fix gain then USDT is perfect pair for anyone since we all know whatever happen on the market the value of USDT will remain the same.

both are still equally unprofitable because bitcoin price has fallen from $ 11k back to $ 7k in only half a year, unless they are not bound by floating orders, and return to open positions in calmer sideways. my friends are lucky because they made a short order from the first time the downward trend moved and still hold it until now.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: CarnagexD on December 30, 2019, 04:39:26 PM
This question will depends on what they prefer since if they can risk to play on the bearish market which could give them high chances of losing the value or gain with it then he should go with BTC but if he's new and want to get a fix gain then USDT is perfect pair for anyone since we all know whatever happen on the market the value of USDT will remain the same.
Well btc has a pair to all coins in the market unlike the others however USDT does not. I don't think it is good to trade using usdt coz it will undergo to more conversion and will generate higher fee compare to bitcoin. I use USDT as a pause time after a trade, it acts like a safe haven since it is a stablecoin. Another thing is bitcoin is very volatile so it could produce unnecessarry losses when used so timing is indeed needed.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: el kaka22 on December 31, 2019, 08:51:16 AM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.
Okay, I personally hate USDT with a vengeance, they are a company that stole billions of dollars from people and they didn't get caught or jailed or anything, they are not even sued as far as I know right now because they did their shady business very
carefully.

We are talking about BILLIONS here, in order to make that much money you have to make 1 million dollars per month for 83 years just to tell you how much that is, and that is just 1 billion, they had some change as well, so they got away with 100 years of 1 million dollars per month type of money. So, I would definitely use bitcoin to trade and don't go near USDT, however there are other more legit stablecoins people use and I may understand where they came from, its easier to live with fiat than bitcoin because world is still mainly fiat.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Xxmodded on December 31, 2019, 09:42:09 AM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.
Okay, I personally hate USDT with a vengeance, they are a company that stole billions of dollars from people and they didn't get caught or jailed or anything, they are not even sued as far as I know right now because they did their shady business very
carefully.

We are talking about BILLIONS here, in order to make that much money you have to make 1 million dollars per month for 83 years just to tell you how much that is, and that is just 1 billion, they had some change as well, so they got away with 100 years of 1 million dollars per month type of money. So, I would definitely use bitcoin to trade and don't go near USDT, however there are other more legit stablecoins people use and I may understand where they came from, its easier to live with fiat than bitcoin because world is still mainly fiat.
Between USD and BTC have benefit when trading but I think we earn much profit if trade with bitcoin, USD price look stable and never change with higher or lower price where we only get profit from our coin price only when trading, but using bitcoin as trading peer we can get double profit not only with coin have higher price but when bitcoin up we got double profit too.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jostorres on December 31, 2019, 10:08:16 AM
I guess it relies on the strategies you want to apply in your trade. But between those two you have mentioned, Bitcoin is by far the pairing choice for majority of the traders we have here, no matter if it’s bull or bear time. And one thing with Bitcoin is that you can exchange it for almost every coin in the market, which is unlike other coins we have.

Although it’s a versatile choice, one thing you might not like (I do see people complain) is the fact that the fees can get high and the transactions can be slow, there are lots of other coins that are way more faster than bitcoin. As for USDT? Well, it’s good, though it’s usually being criticized at times by people, but it’s still a good choice since it’s not volatile like Bitcoin. Other good pairs can be ETH, Litecoin and Dogecoin (you might not know about this last one if you don’t trade on low-valued coins' exchanges).


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on December 31, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.
Okay, I personally hate USDT with a vengeance, they are a company that stole billions of dollars from people and they didn't get caught or jailed or anything, they are not even sued as far as I know right now because they did their shady business very
carefully.

We are talking about BILLIONS here, in order to make that much money you have to make 1 million dollars per month for 83 years just to tell you how much that is, and that is just 1 billion, they had some change as well, so they got away with 100 years of 1 million dollars per month type of money. So, I would definitely use bitcoin to trade and don't go near USDT, however there are other more legit stablecoins people use and I may understand where they came from, its easier to live with fiat than bitcoin because world is still mainly fiat.
Between USD and BTC have benefit when trading but I think we earn much profit if trade with bitcoin, USD price look stable and never change with higher or lower price where we only get profit from our coin price only when trading, but using bitcoin as trading peer we can get double profit not only with coin have higher price but when bitcoin up we got double profit too.
Stablecoin like USDT maybe, will work like to save our investment in bear market. I read maybe a thread in this forum when people discuss what function of stable coin  or maybe how stablecoin can make us safe in bear market. Maybe it function will more work in that way and trading need volatile so people can take profit. And bitcoin is a good coin to do trading.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 31, 2019, 05:44:06 PM
I prefer to choose BTC since I probably have higher gaps between the buying price and selling price. Even if it means there is a chance to earn big profits or big losing. USDT price tends to always stable, while BTC price can go up or down suddenly. In my opinion, USDT is the right coin to keep our money, while BTC is the right coin to trade or invest our capital.      


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: CodyAlfaridzi on December 31, 2019, 06:17:18 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I don't think it would make any difference with your trading performance. You should focus on developing your trading knowledge, peek into successful trader strategy, and learn risk management. About pairing, I personally prefer BTC because I don't want to use USDT and I mostly trade in Bitmex which only uses BTC but it has nothing to do with losing or winning.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: mrAlexRoyce on December 31, 2019, 06:20:01 PM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.
Okay, I personally hate USDT with a vengeance, they are a company that stole billions of dollars from people and they didn't get caught or jailed or anything, they are not even sued as far as I know right now because they did their shady business very
carefully.

We are talking about BILLIONS here, in order to make that much money you have to make 1 million dollars per month for 83 years just to tell you how much that is, and that is just 1 billion, they had some change as well, so they got away with 100 years of 1 million dollars per month type of money. So, I would definitely use bitcoin to trade and don't go near USDT, however there are other more legit stablecoins people use and I may understand where they came from, its easier to live with fiat than bitcoin because world is still mainly fiat.
Between USD and BTC have benefit when trading but I think we earn much profit if trade with bitcoin, USD price look stable and never change with higher or lower price where we only get profit from our coin price only when trading, but using bitcoin as trading peer we can get double profit not only with coin have higher price but when bitcoin up we got double profit too.
Stablecoin like USDT maybe, will work like to save our investment in bear market. I read maybe a thread in this forum when people discuss what function of stable coin  or maybe how stablecoin can make us safe in bear market. Maybe it function will more work in that way and trading need volatile so people can take profit. And bitcoin is a good coin to do trading.



USDT may have troubles because SEK can influence their business. But the idea of stable coins is really good and brings us an opportunity not to leave crypto market when bears win. Earlier we had to move into fiat to fix positions. But now we don't need!


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jerry0 on January 01, 2020, 02:46:00 AM
When you do usdt, you are paying an extra 2 fees right when selling it for real usd?  Example you send btc to binance.  You sell it for altcoin.  Then sell it for btc and then sell it for usdt.  Then say you want to cash out to bank account, you need to sell the usdt to btc on binance... then send the btc to coinbase/gemini or bitstamp and then do a bank transfer ach right?



Does binance allow you to cash out directly to bank transfer like ach or wire transfer?


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: luckyflop on January 01, 2020, 05:08:19 AM
If you believe in the future of BTC and believe that its value will increase in the future, then of course you should choose to trade in pairs BTC / altcoin .. This can make you lose if You move to USD but in the future it will be a different matter.
As for me, I am a careful person in this market and I choose to trade in USDT pairs, it helps me to get a stable profit without having to worry about the price of Bitcoin can increase or decrease.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: riskyron on January 01, 2020, 03:20:43 PM
That's interesting... I thought no one uses USDT for trading solely ??? To me it's more suitable for fast and reliable payments.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: nreal on January 01, 2020, 04:35:06 PM
This depends on the volume of each pair, but it is more reasonable to trade BTC pairs in the bull market and USDT in the bear market. But for some people who want to accumulate long-term BTC, they will choose the BTC pair, And the BTC pairs often have greater volatility than USDT.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Triffin on January 01, 2020, 06:28:27 PM
I prefer to trade mostly BTC-based pairs as well since my only goal's just to accumulate and more Bitcoin, so just trading through BTC pairs eliminates any fees I might have to pay to convert USDT or USDC or any other stablecoin back into Bitcoin. I still do trade with leverage on sites like Bitmex for pairs such as BTCUSD simply because I've got good experience with that specific pair and I know how things go with it, but typically I do still trade most altcoins against BTC.
Okay, I personally hate USDT with a vengeance, they are a company that stole billions of dollars from people and they didn't get caught or jailed or anything, they are not even sued as far as I know right now because they did their shady business very
carefully.

We are talking about BILLIONS here, in order to make that much money you have to make 1 million dollars per month for 83 years just to tell you how much that is, and that is just 1 billion, they had some change as well, so they got away with 100 years of 1 million dollars per month type of money. So, I would definitely use bitcoin to trade and don't go near USDT, however there are other more legit stablecoins people use and I may understand where they came from, its easier to live with fiat than bitcoin because world is still mainly fiat.
Between USD and BTC have benefit when trading but I think we earn much profit if trade with bitcoin, USD price look stable and never change with higher or lower price where we only get profit from our coin price only when trading, but using bitcoin as trading peer we can get double profit not only with coin have higher price but when bitcoin up we got double profit too.
Yeah we can trade with both but as you said in market of profit trading with bitcoin is much better than trading with USD because bitcoin changes the price and it gives profit to traders so when you get chance try to collect some bitcoins and store all of them in your wallet use some for trading it will increase in price and you will enjoy trading with profit.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Sahyadri on January 01, 2020, 06:49:56 PM
I prefer measuring my profits in term of usdt. Bitcoin don't have much utility of its own. For actually taking out your investment and putting it in use, you will need to convert it into a stable coin or Fiat. So, I prefer USDT appreciation of my money. That is a sure shot profit. The profit you have over and above the actual money you put into the investment.
Also the market being highly volatile, Bitcoin goes half of its price in just a few months. In that case having more satoshis but less in terms of usdt won't make much a sense.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: salad daging on January 01, 2020, 06:57:45 PM
Usdt pair usage is sometimes more useful to see the original price so that it is easier to set aside profits in such a way, there are still many traders who have difficulty seeing fraction of bitcoin numbers, and also when calculated from trading fees. but after learning a lot I still chose to use BTC in spot trading, and USDT in futures.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: mrAlexRoyce on January 02, 2020, 01:43:04 AM
When you do usdt, you are paying an extra 2 fees right when selling it for real usd?  Example you send btc to binance.  You sell it for altcoin.  Then sell it for btc and then sell it for usdt.  Then say you want to cash out to bank account, you need to sell the usdt to btc on binance... then send the btc to coinbase/gemini or bitstamp and then do a bank transfer ach right?



Does binance allow you to cash out directly to bank transfer like ach or wire transfer?


You could use PAX for example, and withdraw to bank account directly. It is another stable coin 1-to-1 to USD. But you need verified acc in paxos.com first.

As for Binance, there are some fiat currencies available for deposit/withdraw, but not US dollar for now.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: sisule on January 02, 2020, 04:08:20 AM
USDT look stable price and less risk if you invest your money with USD but for bitcoin you can get much profit and big risk when bitcoin have down, many time after I make trading and got profit I convert my trading profit become USD because most safety for saving for long time and price keep stable by saving with USD.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: akmal1984 on January 02, 2020, 01:32:48 PM
Since tether has emerged as a fraud company that has stole money from the people and there are not enough dollars to support the tethers, I don't use it anymore. Anyone who uses tether right now has two reasons why, firstly, they didn't know tether first was a fraud scam company that they could just check. Or the other one they don't know that it is a company. Many people just want to trade and are happy to use exchanges and their tether options as they realise they don't care about the tether itself. They care about ease of trading and after their trading is over they go back to bitcoin, so all they used tether was for trading purposes.
But didn't they refute the news? And to this day the thether trading volume is still in the top 5. I'm sure many people have also heard the news. I myself have never used usdt at all. However, I see many traders always shifting their crypto to the thether when the market is down trend


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Capt00 on January 02, 2020, 10:51:07 PM
It depends on what trading pairs you'd like cause for me, I'd use BTC-ETH-BTC. That is the flow of my trades and finally converted into fiat money.
Either we use USDT or BTC for trading, the most important is we all be gaining. Nothing to be special about the two, it all depends on which one we like to use. Besides, it all be found in many exchanges that it was never hard for us to use it.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: drlukacs on January 03, 2020, 03:47:40 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
This depends on your decision and long-term trading plan.  If you have the idea that Bitcoin's price will soon increase in the future, you should trade with the bitcoin pair.  because your profit will be increased by the number of bitcoins and when the price of bitcoin increases, your results begin to appear gradually.  If you think bitcoin will not increase, you should trade with Usdt.  Clear plans will help you avoid headaches and think of such small things.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: mamedesign on January 03, 2020, 07:48:02 PM
It seems like it is indeed a difficult thing, friend, if you rely only on 2 choices of USDT and BItcoin.  Where USDT is a stable coin that will not change drastically and Bitcoin is a volality coin.  You should look for alternatives to stable coins and when you get a new profit, you convert to USDT to maintain the profit you get when you stop or take a break from trading. And so on. Then you will rarely lose again later.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Karmakid on January 03, 2020, 11:22:31 PM
USDT look stable price and less risk if you invest your money with USD but for bitcoin you can get much profit and big risk when bitcoin have down, many time after I make trading and got profit I convert my trading profit become USD because most safety for saving for long time and price keep stable by saving with USD.
People mostly love to trade with bitcoin because using crypto is safe because of anonymity and no one would know about your profit and your earning. Using USD is also not a bad idea but you must have planned because people mostly use USD for daily needs only.  So just focus on what you want. Bitcoin trading is good but make a research about the market before spending your Bitcoin.
USD is different in USDT, USDT is the digital dollar and you can use it freely to buy cryptocurrencies while USD is just the physical fiat that you used in your daily life. Even though you are going to use bitcoin, you are not anonymous anymore because most of the exchanges online require its customers to submit personal information.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Pinkris128 on January 05, 2020, 09:36:24 AM
USDT is a stable coin which it is only good to store all of our profit when we are facing a bear market to avoid having huge losses. So trading with Bitcoin is much better even it always drops it's price because sooner or later it could have a huge pump. All you need is patience in holding your bitcoin until it have an improvement to it's value.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: @prashant on January 05, 2020, 02:05:33 PM
If you looking for reference in terms of fiat then USDT is good choice for you but if you looking to grow your btc in quantity then take btc as reference. In my opinion focus more on increasing btc quantity , it doesn't matter if you are temporarily using USDT to check profit or loss. Just depending on btc as reference is risk so choose both as reference but focus on quantity of btc as eventually btc will dominate in crypto space.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: akmal1984 on January 05, 2020, 04:01:29 PM
If you looking for reference in terms of fiat then USDT is good choice for you but if you looking to grow your btc in quantity then take btc as reference. In my opinion focus more on increasing btc quantity , it doesn't matter if you are temporarily using USDT to check profit or loss. Just depending on btc as reference is risk so choose both as reference but focus on quantity of btc as eventually btc will dominate in crypto space.
It is true that you convey. If we trade with USDT there is not much profit we can get. The price tends to be stable and only slightly changes. I often say USDT is better used to store our crypto assets only when the market is down. If for trading, it's clear that bitcoin can be relied on to make a profit.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: adjed on January 05, 2020, 04:39:12 PM
I think this question is kinda invalid because if you know the basics of Bitcoin, you would know that you cannot trade Bitcoin with the Bitcoin pair, it has to be with another currency pair and most traders prefer this other pair to be stablecoins with majority of traders preferring the USDT and USDC trading pair but mostly USDT because it tends to have much more liquidity, so this questions is invalid because someone trading bitcoin is almost certain to be trading USDT as well.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Savemore on January 06, 2020, 07:41:14 AM
I used to trade using USDT pair and not BTC. BTC pair is really confusing for and that is why I prefer to use USDT because of its fixed price and value. The price of the bitcoin is volatile, so it means that you need also to monitor the price of the bitcoin and the coin that you want to trade if you will use USDT pair.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Visbay on January 06, 2020, 04:33:41 PM
If you looking for reference in terms of fiat then USDT is good choice for you but if you looking to grow your btc in quantity then take btc as reference. In my opinion focus more on increasing btc quantity , it doesn't matter if you are temporarily using USDT to check profit or loss. Just depending on btc as reference is risk so choose both as reference but focus on quantity of btc as eventually btc will dominate in crypto space.
I also like to trade with Fiat because I love to store my bitcoin and after holding bitcoin will give profit to use. Some people use bitcoins too but I think it’s good to use fiat as it’s easy.  Storing Bitcoin is a good choice but I’m long term trader so I use fiat for trading and use bitcoin to have a long term holding it is a double profit-making skill.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 06, 2020, 09:49:37 PM
Many times it depends on the criteria of the merchant, if it is Pro-Bitcoin, it will always have Bitcoin and will not change to USD, in general, what is recommended is that when Bitcoin is in an upward trend you must have all the money in Bitcoin as it will increase .

Some operators in the market accumulation stage after having their operations, usually change from Bitcoin to USD, it all depends on the criteria and the way of seeing the market. An investor must leave everything in Bitcoin, it is HODLER by nature, regardless of market fluctuations, because there is a total conviction about Bitcoin and its power, at this moment, my own criteria, it is better to leave it in Bitcoin, according to many analysts it may be there is a good bullish movement, it is expected to reach at least $ 9k.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: alan2here on January 07, 2020, 01:57:14 AM
I used to trade using USDT pair and not BTC. BTC pair is really confusing for and that is why I prefer to use USDT because of its fixed price and value. The price of the bitcoin is volatile, so it means that you need also to monitor the price of the bitcoin and the coin that you want to trade if you will use USDT pair.
I only use USDT pair because this is the simplest way to know exactly my profit when trading and USDT is stablecoin so there will not be much change in value. In fact, trading BTC is also very profitable but you need to calculate very carefully because BTC is volatility and never stand still.

In addition, I also use the ETH pair to trade but recently most people are no longer interested in ETH so in the near future there will definitely be BTC and USDT.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Rodeo02 on January 07, 2020, 02:14:39 AM
USDT is a stable coin which it is only good to store all of our profit when we are facing a bear market to avoid having huge losses. So trading with Bitcoin is much better even it always drops it's price because sooner or later it could have a huge pump. All you need is patience in holding your bitcoin until it have an improvement to it's value.
its depend if traders want to secured what they earn then USDT is the best solution . While in BTC there is no guaranteed profit since its volatile and no one can know if the price will go up or down the day you need it. The good thing if you trade in BTC it can give you more profit once the price increase.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: ufaiz50 on January 07, 2020, 06:08:50 AM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I myself prefer the btc and eth pair, it depends on the exchanger community too. In okex I see more that USDT is often used rather than btc or ETH. In my opinion, when bull and bear, I recommend the pair USD if you want to trade safely, but for bull conditions, I would recommend using BTC because of course the price of bitcoin will also go up high.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Cimmy_revenger on January 07, 2020, 01:07:24 PM
First question for you.
You want make profit FIAT or CRYTO ?
If you want make a profit FIAT you pair USDT.
but if you want make a profit CRYTO you can pair BTC , ETH , BNB.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: puertorikosena on January 07, 2020, 04:19:23 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I think that in any case, a beginner needs to trade in a pair to USDT. When a person already understands the features of the cryptocurrency market, then you can go to the trading pair for BTC. Although sometimes it is better to trade only to BTC.



Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: MI6 on January 14, 2020, 08:11:16 AM
I trade on exchanges that support both. Then I can use BTC as my regular collateral and switch to USDT in volatile periods where I don't wanna take extra risk.


Right answer, i think people can simply do this thing because maybe (cmiiw) trading pair in BTC is more choice than in USDT pair, and price is almost same i think. If people afraid with volatile, just sell bitcoin to USDT after our trading executed and don't need to worry about volatile anymore.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: oktana on January 14, 2020, 12:37:32 PM
Since tether has emerged as a fraud company that has stole money from the people and there are not enough dollars to support the tethers, I don't use it anymore. Anyone who uses tether right now has two reasons why, firstly, they didn't know tether first was a fraud scam company that they could just check. Or the other one they don't know that it is a company. Many people just want to trade and are happy to use exchanges and their tether options as they realise they don't care about the tether itself. They care about ease of trading and after their trading is over they go back to bitcoin, so all they used tether was for trading purposes.
You are wise enough not to use Tether, but I think you are overreacting about this coin.

If this is indeed a fraudulent coin, there should be no exchange willing to trade it, so the exchange party is also indirectly responsible for this coin. we have to make the best use of it because usdt is very important for altcoin pairs in the current bitcoin condition, at least to maintain the value of assets for a while.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jerry0 on January 26, 2020, 01:14:03 AM
Well if someone wants to trade and lock in profits but trade altcoins, isn't usdt your only option though?


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Apened on January 26, 2020, 02:53:19 AM
I trade on exchanges that support both. Then I can use BTC as my regular collateral and switch to USDT in volatile periods where I don't wanna take extra risk.


Right answer, i think people can simply do this thing because maybe (cmiiw) trading pair in BTC is more choice than in USDT pair, and price is almost same i think. If people afraid with volatile, just sell bitcoin to USDT after our trading executed and don't need to worry about volatile anymore.
It all depends on the current market perhaps switching from USDT to BTC or vice-versa will make you a good amount of profit. you can also trade a lot of altcoins that are propotional to its trend for USDT or BTC. Trading should be fun if you know how to spot the possible trades.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Captain Corporate on January 26, 2020, 12:13:53 PM

 I am too scared to use USDT to be honest. I mean we all know its backed by a company thats shady so I am not really trusting my money at USDT right now, maybe binance is said to have a brand new stablecoin, that sounds more reasonable, if this question was "trade with stablecoin or btc?" I would probably side with "trade with btc, hold with stable" because I am like you guys and keep it on usd when I am not entirely sure what the market is doing or will do, I just simply go back into btc whenever I feel like making a move, yet I go full on fiat instead of stablecoins for now since I don't trust them anymore, its too risky to get involved with it right now and I would prefer to not risk it with them. However if/when libra comes, I would be super happy about it because I trust facebook more than I trust tether, I mean facebook is a shady company at best as well but they are 100+ billion valuation at least.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: aomakun on January 26, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
I trade on exchanges that support both. Then I can use BTC as my regular collateral and switch to USDT in volatile periods where I don't wanna take extra risk.


Right answer, i think people can simply do this thing because maybe (cmiiw) trading pair in BTC is more choice than in USDT pair, and price is almost same i think. If people afraid with volatile, just sell bitcoin to USDT after our trading executed and don't need to worry about volatile anymore.
It all depends on the current market perhaps switching from USDT to BTC or vice-versa will make you a good amount of profit. you can also trade a lot of altcoins that are propotional to its trend for USDT or BTC. Trading should be fun if you know how to spot the possible trades.
all depend on trade, and I believe this.
using bitcoin or USDT depends on the potential that exists, so if we have the ability to trade then we will see that trading is fun and can make a profit.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: the rise on January 26, 2020, 03:30:28 PM
I am too scared to use USDT to be honest. I mean we all know its backed by a company thats shady so I am not really trusting my money at USDT right now, maybe binance is said to have a brand new stablecoin, that sounds more reasonable, if this question was "trade with stablecoin or btc?" I would probably side with "trade with btc, hold with stable" because I am like you guys and keep it on usd when I am not entirely sure what the market is doing or will do, I just simply go back into btc whenever I feel like making a move, yet I go full on fiat instead of stablecoins for now since I don't trust them anymore, its too risky to get involved with it right now and I would prefer to not risk it with them.
very interesting because you seem to be very skeptical of using usdt, meaning that when btc goes down, you don't really care about the nominal short-term assets or only trade assets in otc mode. You don't trust USDT anymore because you have had problems before? You need to try trusting other stable coins if you are too doubtful


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: sisule on January 26, 2020, 03:44:38 PM
I will trade by using USDT when bitcoin price down but looking bitcoin keep higher price I will trade by using bitcoin, depend with how bitcoin price before, if bitcoin have been in lower price better trade using USDT because we not lost much money and could get double profit in trading.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: coinfinger on January 27, 2020, 08:50:24 AM
I trade on exchanges that support both. Then I can use BTC as my regular collateral and switch to USDT in volatile periods where I don't wanna take extra risk.


Right answer, i think people can simply do this thing because maybe (cmiiw) trading pair in BTC is more choice than in USDT pair, and price is almost same i think. If people afraid with volatile, just sell bitcoin to USDT after our trading executed and don't need to worry about volatile anymore.
It all depends on the current market perhaps switching from USDT to BTC or vice-versa will make you a good amount of profit. you can also trade a lot of altcoins that are propotional to its trend for USDT or BTC. Trading should be fun if you know how to spot the possible trades.
This might actually be a good way of trading. You can find a coin which has trading pairs in both Bitcoin as well as the Tether. You can than make purchase in bitcoin in the bearish trend and sell of that coin in USDT so that you can gain some instant profit.

There are a lot of opportunities for arbitrage trading which would work similarly and would give you good profits if you are quick and instant in buying and selling those coins at the approx time. USDT gives us a stable income as the price is not much volatile but it might also not give you excess profits which BTC would give you. Bitcoins have high volatile price and hence they might give you higher profits by keeping bitcoin in your trading pairs.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: panganib999 on January 27, 2020, 09:28:10 AM
I trade on exchanges that support both. Then I can use BTC as my regular collateral and switch to USDT in volatile periods where I don't wanna take extra risk.


Right answer, i think people can simply do this thing because maybe (cmiiw) trading pair in BTC is more choice than in USDT pair, and price is almost same i think. If people afraid with volatile, just sell bitcoin to USDT after our trading executed and don't need to worry about volatile anymore.
It all depends on the current market perhaps switching from USDT to BTC or vice-versa will make you a good amount of profit. you can also trade a lot of altcoins that are propotional to its trend for USDT or BTC. Trading should be fun if you know how to spot the possible trades.
This might actually be a good way of trading. You can find a coin which has trading pairs in both Bitcoin as well as the Tether. You can than make purchase in bitcoin in the bearish trend and sell of that coin in USDT so that you can gain some instant profit.

There are a lot of opportunities for arbitrage trading which would work similarly and would give you good profits if you are quick and instant in buying and selling those coins at the approx time. USDT gives us a stable income as the price is not much volatile but it might also not give you excess profits which BTC would give you. Bitcoins have high volatile price and hence they might give you higher profits by keeping bitcoin in your trading pairs.


In having trading between the bitcoin and to the usdt you can now see the balance of this coin because the use of pair they are soon supporting the use of two coins make a trade today when the cryptocurrency is prevalent and have a reasonable price you can earn profit with that you if the pair you have is the bitcoin and the usdt make sure the cost of the graph of the exchange of those coins are profitable but if not it is better if you hold your coins. As a trader, we are avoiding loss income always focus on to have a good profit. Stilll, it depends on you if you needed to pull out your coins or not.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: FanEagle on January 27, 2020, 09:53:37 AM
In the bull markets, you can continue using your BTC to trade with majority of the coins but in case of the bearish markets, you should shift onto USDT trading pairs as it would not make you face excess loss even if the price for BTC drops continuously. USDT is a stable coin and it could actually be trusted in the bear markets.

If you continue trading with BTC pairs in the bear markets than you might perhaps find profits by buying/selling those coins but you would at least face loss only because the price for bitcoin would drop from the moment you bought the coin and the moment you sell those coins. The price for bitcoin can really have an adverse effect on your trading portfolio and hence you should should trading pairs consciously.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: jostorres on January 27, 2020, 12:42:06 PM
Since tether has emerged as a fraud company that has stole money from the people and there are not enough dollars to support the tethers, I don't use it anymore. Anyone who uses tether right now has two reasons why, firstly, they didn't know tether first was a fraud scam company that they could just check. Or the other one they don't know that it is a company. Many people just want to trade and are happy to use exchanges and their tether options as they realise they don't care about the tether itself. They care about ease of trading and after their trading is over they go back to bitcoin, so all they used tether was for trading purposes.
You are wise enough not to use Tether, but I think you are overreacting about this coin.

If this is indeed a fraudulent coin, there should be no exchange willing to trade it, so the exchange party is also indirectly responsible for this coin. we have to make the best use of it because usdt is very important for altcoin pairs in the current bitcoin condition, at least to maintain the value of assets for a while.
There is no relation between the USDT and scam. USDT is a legit coin which would blindly be trusted until they have some negative news about them rumoring the markets. USDT is really good to trade with because even in stock/forex trading those traders use stable pairs like euro, usd, etc which gives them profits and the same can be treated in the cryptocurrency trading too.

We could gain profits from trading if we have the ability to identify a proper trade and than the second step comes for choosing the market pair. Bitcoin gives profit from trading with some altcoins number of times but for me, USDT has given huge profits for trading with smaller price altcoins.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: chip1994 on January 27, 2020, 01:20:25 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
Ideally, you should choose the pair with the highest volume to trade. actually not too many people want to trade with BTC but because there are too many traders there and the volume is high they are forced to follow the crowd. because when the volume is high, the effects of indicators will have a higher accuracy rate. That's why many traders now trade with BTC.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: quality.crypto on January 27, 2020, 01:21:37 PM
It completely depends upon the situation of the market because when the price of Bitcoin is high, it is very good to trade with the Bitcoin, when the price of Bitcoin is going down we should convert them to USDT and when can start trading with the USDT. Based on the market situation we have to trade the coins, otherwise, we cannot survive in the cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: diazepam666 on January 27, 2020, 01:33:24 PM
USDT is best option to invest for long term exchange purposes and at the same time to hold some funds for making future conversions when the price dump in any cryptocurrencies.
BTC is available maximum 90 percent alts in the market.
So it will be helpful for the everyone want to roll the trade with the best coins in the market.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: imutlinda on January 27, 2020, 01:47:56 PM
USDT is best option to invest for long term exchange purposes and at the same time to hold some funds for making future conversions when the price dump in any cryptocurrencies.
BTC is available maximum 90 percent alts in the market.
So it will be helpful for the everyone want to roll the trade with the best coins in the market.
both of them do have their respective uses and we can take advantage of different times and in certain positions, the USDT can be utilized when the dump and btc markets can be utilized properly to circulate funds for trading. So both of them can be utilized, although many people talk that it's better to use bitcoin to maintain stability.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: sulendra12 on January 27, 2020, 02:49:56 PM
I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
I don't really care which one, if I see that USDT gives more profit to trade than BTC than I will do it also vice versa. You should not stick to the one way only, you have to try different method and ways of earning, that's why lot of you guys are failed because keep sticking with one method only.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: cotton ball on January 27, 2020, 03:13:23 PM
I like trading with using bitcoin pear because we can get double profit when bitcoin back to higher price, but ready when bitcoin down we must faced trouble lost much assets although get profit with altcoin trading but bitcoin back with lower price, you must smart with situation when bitcoin down better using USDT for trading.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: Spider A4 on January 27, 2020, 03:41:11 PM
I think BTC trading is better rather than USDT because all we know that BTC is the most progressive coin. If we choose BTC specially in long term trading it is has more opportunity to earn or far from loss because all we know that btc is the most strongest and oldest coin here in crypto world so we can give our trust.

No, it will be depend when you will trade, if altcoin price will go down when USDT pair is capable to protect your loss but it's can't happen in BTC pair i think. Most of the time regular trader used BTC pair than crypto go down than you must be convert in USDT.

USDT is the second largest trading coin. USDT trade is very helpful to keep stable price. We can see so many altcoins traded in only USDT pair, Tokoin is like that.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: rijaljun on January 27, 2020, 03:59:28 PM
I don't really care which one, if I see that USDT gives more profit to trade than BTC than I will do it also vice versa. You should not stick to the one way only, you have to try different method and ways of earning, that's why lot of you guys are failed because keep sticking with one method only.

I disagree with you, that's kinda stupid thing to do with zero consistency. If you rely on USD means you might sell your altcoin when bitcoin price is moving up and the altcoin price you are holding is falling. In this case you could have more USD value with less Bitcoin. If you think every Satoshi will be very valuable in the future, then you aren't smart trader (apart from cut-loss, it's conditional) otherwise if you think Bitcoin is just another shitcoin in the future, you could be right.


Title: Re: Trade with USDT or BTC?
Post by: MancyZz on January 27, 2020, 05:47:04 PM
I use to lose most of the time in trading and it's giving me headache. I want to ask to you guys which trading pair is better preference in bear/bull markets, whether you trade with BTC  pairing during bull market or USDT pairing in bear market? I need a suggestion from community.
for me based for market condition. so when any chance with USDT pair i will take it and instead. i always trade can bring money for me so it make me not necessarily what pair to choose. i see on the market many people trade in bitcoin pair  than USDT pair. in my opinion if you want to daily trade better to choice bitcoin pair than USDT pair, Because USDT tend to stable more suited for invesment.