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Construction of a solid post poses as a strain to people. And barriers like language, computer adaptation adds to this problem.
Bad and jaw dropping low quality post is not incurable even to the chronic bad posters. Am still on the developing stage so I can say I also have an effort to put in.
 Why do people make bad post
A.  no idea but still want to make a post: some people lack idea or have little idea of what the want to write on and would not take the time to build the idea and make it logical for the community when posted not withstanding they go on to make the post.

B. They are in a rush:people can be in a rush to get there post count, want to be part of the first people to drop a reply to a post, no matter the reason for your rush it makes you to go on and deliver an half done post

C.  To bump a thread: bumping a thread is not against the rule but it has procedure, projects can hire some hoodlums to come on the forum using multiple account to spam and bump there thread

Making nice post is all about your desire to do so, don't wait till you become an expert but the small values and culture you can put into your daily post and your quality post would define you

Constructive posts are not alone defines it quality,sometime one single word will be better than wall of text so its subjective to the discussion.

For more : What is Quality post really ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109908.0)

Your posts defines your reputation here.

Spam, and you will be known as a spammer.
After the introduction of the merit system anyone can just look at your merits and see if you are spamming around or not.

Quality post is not all that gives merit to people here on forum. Some get merited for making a bounty advert post,  some get merited for supporting what some other person has put forward, but still merit is part of what makes a quality post but other things are associated with it

That's clearly a merit abuse. If you find one, report it and most of the time, the account will get tagged if there's enough proof. No sane person is going to merit a bounty report.

That's a big no to me and people who give merit to bounty report can be considered his alt account, in fact, these people making bounty report are getting a ban, and they do not add quality to the forum, that is why I prefer doing my other bounty in bounty platform, I don't want any of my post coming from bounty report, my signature campaign did not pay me to do such thing, last time I've done bounty report was when I was a  junior member. 

Anyone is free to give Merits on any posts they like. No one can ask why he has given merit to a post which does not deserve a merit. But this happens occasionally.  In most cases a good poster will get merits and it is not possible that anyone who is posting good and still not be able to get merit.

By bounty advert post, do you mean to say bounty managers getting merit for creating a new bounty thread and not the bounty hunters submitting their reports? Please clarify this to avoid confusion. 

You are free to do whatever you wish here in this forum.
But you will face the consequences, which will include a red tag or a permanent ban
Those bounty reports or advertisement are clearly merit abuse.

Again we should not misuse the merits but these are not moderated. Merit abuse may be punished on the basis if alts are found giving merit to each other but if anyone give merits to bounty report, nothing can be done.

Advertisement posts can be considered and I might give a merit if I like the content and what is offered and what has been posted, posts on collectibles is one of the examples IMO. But there's no a single valid reason from anyone to give a merit for a merely bounty report.

They can tagged with red trust.
Anyone can give red trust to anyone, and nothing can be done about that ;)

Bounty reports should not be merited and this is a clearly misuse of merit system.

I don't believe this is 100% true, while any user can choose to leave a feedback on another, the one that truly counts are feedbacks left by those on the DT list and those on a users trust list, most users leave feedback in retaliation for the ones they receive, that's why theymos is very selective on who he makes a DT(must have a good reputation on the forum), because before a user is tagged or flagged a scammer, there must be real concrete evidences of wrongdoings.

OP needs to come and make it clear on this thread what he meant by "bounty advert" post, that would allow us get to a conclusion on what is right or not.

What's wrong about what he said? Red trust probably means the negative feedback itself since either a feedback is trusted or not is relative to whom you trust or distrust.

Also, theymos isn't really the one selective to make people DT. People get on DT based on the number of "votes" they have - from people with a good amount of merits - and another few other requirements. Then, once in DT1, it's up for the users in there to choose who is DT2. He only takes part on this when there is a blatantly abuse and he blacklists someone from DT.

A lot of high-merited users started as shitposters when they joined this forum, just look at their first posts. You are unlikely to get banned for shitposts, you won't get red trust for them (theymos is against it), worst things that will happen is that you'll get included in SMAS lists and will forever stay newbie with 0 merit. But those things can be changed, you can improve your post quality and earn merit and ask to be removed from SMAS.

This is right. Some people here started in forum as shitposters and their concern primarily is about bounty campaign and airdrops. I admit I am once like that, cause when I joined here the info Ive known is when you joined forum you will earn money from joining activities like bounty and airdrop but I started to look for more things to learn here and luckily, Ive improved a lot since then. OP is right on some points mentioned but every deserved second chance.

Regarding post that has been merited on bounty advert. Clearly its a merit abuse but we can't be sure about it since people can freely give smerit right? But this can be noticed by DT and surely people who doing this will have some negative feedback or worse perma ban.

There is a slight difference between trust and merits which you both say that "nothing can be done".
Only the DT member red trust has an impact and other trusts feedback do not matter much to the users However any merit given / received has an impact regardless of given by which user on any post.

I am always seeing some newbies account whos post history are full of bounty reports? Is there any way I can help to report those unsubstantial accounts? wherein they can be permanently banned?

It will also be suspicious to anyone if a user will give a merit to a bounty report LOL ;D which is considered a shitpost.

Yes;

1. If you can connect that account with one of the participant/s of that same bounty that also enrolling in it then a red tagged is worth it to give to both of them.

2. If you can find his alts that is already banned and his current account is still doing some sorts of bounties or the likes then you can create a topic about his connection to that account or post on known-alts thread on Reputation board then report those users who are evading his ban.

No;

1. Because if those bounty reports are accepted on that thread that isn't reportable at all unless if it's really off topic to post it there.

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Not meant to be off-topic here to the OP since we are discussing about defining who we are over a post. Yes, somehow it was the case but there are room for improvement over your post through time here on the forum. So, if you see a user that you think that he has low post then don't judge him just too early at least observe him through time or if he hasn't improve at all and his posts are spams or just off topic then report it instead.

One of the reasons you will know if that someone is a good poster by checking his started thread. You will see there if he is contributing to the forum or just some spam starter. you can also find some users here that are not threads starter but their posts are awesome and constructive. Either way as long as they contribute to the forum in a positive way I considered them helpful.

Almost all the top100 merited users are on DT. There are hundreds of topics in reputation board about all kind of merit abuse and scams

Community is vigilant here. Hardly people will be abusing the merit system unnoticed

Maybe what you mean is unlikely to get permanently banned. Members can still get banned temporarily for extreme shitposting, I believe it's either seven or fourteen day forum suspension.


Bounty reports shouldn't be given any merit in my opinion also but I would not consider it a shitpost if it is required by the bounty manager.