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Title: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: strongman75 on November 12, 2019, 01:55:27 AM
We are participating in an BTC investment program so there are many transfers. Exactly yesterday, November 11, 2019 our team was stuck with a series of orders that received $ 1,000.

The question is:
1. Is there any way to fix the problem of the order being transferred to the investor by us?

2. As far as I know, the stuck command when having this hash code is due to the low shipping cost that leads to it or is there another way such as: "Generating virtual hash codes?".

This is a hash of my hash yesterday: https://www.blockchain.com/search?search=070a334c77b09cdb077be10a270aecb17f9936cb76012a575105e2504fcd1425 (https://www.blockchain.com/search?search=070a334c77b09cdb077be10a270aecb17f9936cb76012a575105e2504fcd1425)

3. Was yesterday 11/11/2019 the transaction network of bitcoin is clogged worldwide?

Please help me and the experts help me with this. Thank you



Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: nc50lc on November 12, 2019, 03:09:20 AM
[2] Your link didn't lead to any unconfirmed or confirmed transaction.
There's no way to create a fake txid, it should lead to a valid transaction, otherwise it won't appear anywhere.

[3] Yes yesterday, 1-7sat/byte might take hours to get a confirmation, but all should be mined by now since it somehow managed to "clear-up" after a couple of hours.
Refer to this graph to find the exact hours of the "mempool clogging": https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,24h (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,24h)

[1]
1. Is there any way to fix the problem of the order being transferred to the investor by us?
This is somehow confusing, you've mentioned that you are "participating", then now you're sending to an investor ???

Anyways, if the problem is just the transaction fee, you can use RBF (Replace By Fee) if you're the sender
or CPFP (Child Pay for Parent) if you're the receiver.
But if it's something else, like a successful double spend, there's no way to "fix" it.

A few questions that might help solving your case (if not, to identify the problem):
1. What client/wallet did you used?
2. Did your link from Q number 2 lead to an unconfirmed transaction yesterday when you searched for it?
3. If you don't mind, what is the address(es) used as input for that transaction? (since you're willing to show the txid, I guess you wont mind sharing the address)


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: strongman75 on November 12, 2019, 03:29:20 AM
[2] Your link didn't lead to any unconfirmed or confirmed transaction.
There's no way to create a fake txid, it should lead to a valid transaction, otherwise it won't appear anywhere.

So please help me, what kind of transaction is this?
https://www.blockchain.com/search?search=070a334c77b09cdb077be10a270aecb17f9936cb76012a575105e2504fcd1425 (https://www.blockchain.com/search?search=070a334c77b09cdb077be10a270aecb17f9936cb76012a575105e2504fcd1425)

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This is somehow confusing, you've mentioned that you are "participating", then now you're sending to an investor Huh
We are an investment group in a fiduciary unit called btcmtx.com and I call the investors with me "clients."

here comes 3:
  • Recipient: btcmtx
  • I
  • Clients are investors with me.

If there is something difficult to understand please ask again

A few questions that might help solving your case (if not, to identify the problem):
1. What client/wallet did you used?
2. Did your link from Q number 2 lead to an unconfirmed transaction yesterday when you searched for it?
3. If you don't mind, what is the address(es) used as input for that transaction? (since you're willing to show the txid, I guess you wont mind sharing the address)

1. I use the GREEN blockchain wallet. and the unit I invest is being transferred to me from my Paypal wallet.
2. This is the link I got from the command the company sent me, please review the link above.
3. The input address I didn't know because they were transferred from their broker team. Only my receiving address is: 1M1u8GsLE97NZVLVoTv3h3FajHeiKJAqDs

Thank you very much for your enthusiastic support.



Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: nc50lc on November 12, 2019, 04:20:20 AM
1. I use the GREEN blockchain wallet. and the unit I invest is being transferred to me from my Paypal wallet.
2. This is the link I got from the command the company sent me, please review the link above.
3. The input address I didn't know because they were transferred from their broker team. Only my receiving address is: 1M1u8GsLE97NZVLVoTv3h3FajHeiKJAqDs
What is the name of this "company"?
Be aware that there are tens of thousands of scammers in this whole "investment" industry specially with cryptocurrencies.

It's also dangerous to run an unknown command given by someone you don't know, plus it's a common "double-scam" attempt.
It might have compromised your system or got your funds stolen.

BTW, that transaction hash isn't valid and there's no other unconfirmed transactions going in to your receiving address.
You can check it yourself by pasting it in the same blockexplorer: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1M1u8GsLE97NZVLVoTv3h3FajHeiKJAqDs (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1M1u8GsLE97NZVLVoTv3h3FajHeiKJAqDs)

What I can tell is: this isn't a problem of a "low fee" unconfirmed transaction.


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: strongman75 on November 12, 2019, 05:07:43 AM
Thank for you.

Let me know how to "Merit: 691" for you.

I want "Merit" for you without knowing where to click or how.



Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: joniboini on November 12, 2019, 05:13:37 AM
I want "Merit" for you without knowing where to click or how.
There should be a +Merit button beside the post number, not sure it's visible for you.

So is your issue solved now? Either your customer sends a fake TXID or they failed to broadcast it.


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: strongman75 on November 12, 2019, 06:05:09 AM
I want "Merit" for you without knowing where to click or how.

yes. I don't see +Merit

There should be a +Merit button beside the post number, not sure it's visible for you.

So is your issue solved now? Either your customer sends a fake TXID or they failed to broadcast it.

Please tell me how "fake txid"  can be created?

thank you.


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: LoyceV on November 12, 2019, 08:03:52 AM
There's no way to create a fake txid, it should lead to a valid transaction, otherwise it won't appear anywhere.
It's rare, but you're wrong here! I've seen fake transactions on Blockchain.info (now Blockchain.com) years ago, they were used by scammers to pretend they sent funds. Those fake txids didn't show up on any other block explorer.
I never found out how they did it, but judging by this topic, it's still possible.

General advice: NEVER accept an unconfirmed transaction as payment (unless you trust the source completely), and don't rely on blockchain.com (they have many bugs).

I want "Merit" for you without knowing where to click or how.
You can only Merit a user after you've earned at least 2 Merit yourself.

We are participating in an BTC investment program
Chances are you got scammed :(


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: Abdussamad on November 12, 2019, 11:35:07 AM
To quote gmaxwell "The mempool is not a toilet. It does not get clogged!"


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: nc50lc on November 12, 2019, 12:51:26 PM
It's rare, but you're wrong here! I've seen fake transactions on Blockchain.info (now Blockchain.com) years ago, they were used by scammers to pretend they sent funds. Those fake txids didn't show up on any other block explorer.
That sounds like a double-spent transaction that still lingers in their database.
Or TXIDs inserted in to their database by other means.

Quote from: LoyceV
I never found out how they did it, but judging by this topic, it's still possible.
Well, it's indeed possible to add fake transactions in wallets/database but not the blockchain itself.
The link on this topic however leads to an "Oops page" and OP mentioned that it was a result of a command (that I guess he'd executed).


Title: Re: Me and my team are "stuck" with orders when trading a lot? Please help
Post by: Krislaw on November 14, 2019, 05:51:11 AM
According to the transaction you received on the 11th, low fee was used (4.665 sat/B). I think the company must have sent you a wrong transaction hash in the first place. This is the only transaction hash with 1000$ input https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d6baa0c1bdd83f5b5224845b930e5e6fda5d0fcfcc4c9428636db48209ef8234
If you find yourself in a stuck situation like this when you send out a transaction to someone, you can try the CPFP (Child Pay For Parent) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198274.msg52968946#msg52968946) method.