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Title: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 03:15:55 PM
What happened::
he told me can purchase my amazon wish list with discount and i pay with btc
after i send him the btc amount ,he ban me in telegram
i send 140$ with btc

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=943442

Reference Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789747.new#new

Payment Method:
BTC 140$

Proof of Payment

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6ffbdcc56aa98a3fb01015f5221171c6d377aea9b892893672d6d2466e46e2b2

payment log:
https://i.imgur.com/MimfzUJ.png

chat log:
https://i.imgur.com/rakGfIu.png
https://i.imgur.com/3y7t0RZ.png

proof of username(telegram id):
https://i.imgur.com/rxJbXWo.png
https://i.imgur.com/DGtz1Kd.png




Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Avirunes on November 13, 2019, 03:19:16 PM
You are not doing this right (I mean the image link posting thing). Check this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201135.0 and edit your thread with correct image links.

Also please include a screenshot showing his chat unique ID so that we can confirm the user in question.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 03:38:02 PM
You are not doing this right (I mean the image link posting thing). Check this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201135.0 and edit your thread with correct image links.

Also please include a screenshot showing his chat unique ID so that we can confirm the user in question.
fixed


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 13, 2019, 04:05:41 PM
Podgor has posted that he is @AmazonBalance on Telegram.

Telegram @AmazonBalance
[Archive (https://archive.md/Ayswy#selection-665.0-667.14)]


But I also found this:

(ALWAYS CHECK IF YOU ADDED THE PROPER LOGIN, I HAVE IMPERSONATORS USING MY LOGIN IN THEIR NAMES)
Telegram & ICQ: AmazonBalance (I have an impersonator using "i" instead of "L" BE CAREFUL)
[Archive (https://archive.md/3TsDB)]

Are you sure you were dealing with the same guy?  It's hard to tell from the screenshots.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 13, 2019, 04:14:14 PM
I believe you're dealing with an impersonator. I've dealt with Podor multiple times and with larger amounts, and I've had nothing but smooth transactions.

https://i.imgur.com/vysyPHT.png

I have him on Telegram as well (but only dealt with him on Skype), and as you can see:

1. His privacy settings regarding the last time he has been online are available (not the case in the posted image)
2. Different display name compared to the image you've shown.

Also, I've chatted with him last time on Saturday:

https://i.imgur.com/V5QpiQA.png


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 04:21:55 PM
I believe you're dealing with an imposter. I've dealt with Podor multiple times and with larger amounts, and I've had nothing but smooth transactions.

https://i.imgur.com/vysyPHT.png

I have him on Telegram as well (but only dealt with him on Skype), and as you can see:

1. His privacy settings regarding the last time he has been online are available (not the case in the posted image)
2. Different display name compared to the image you've shown.

Also, I've chatted with him last time on Saturday:

https://i.imgur.com/V5QpiQA.png

check this image
https://i.imgur.com/CKogIJ1.png
its for when he dont block me and the last recently time and image are ok
but in telegram when u use ban you
you dont see the use profile image and also the last seen will be change to "last seen long time a go"


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 13, 2019, 04:28:39 PM
check this image
https://i.imgur.com/CKogIJ1.png
its for when he dont block me and the last recently time and image are ok
but in telegram when u use ban you
you dont see the use profile image and also the last seen will be change to "last seen long time a go"

He doesn't have any profile picture in Telegram though (and I'm not blocked).

Try to add him through this link: https://t.me/AmazonBalance

If you can send messages just fine to that account, then you've added an impersonator.

It's worth mentioning that I don't know Podgor personally. I've just dealt with him several times.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 04:30:39 PM
Can't see much in imgur screens but you seriously think soneone would sell you legal balance for 65% BTC?

You messaged my imposter. His name is AmazonBaiance (capital i) while mine is AmazonBalance.

What should I do? Is it possible for people to search my profile using email address? This is not the first time someone gets tricked.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 04:36:56 PM

when you click the username im blocked
dont scam me
you have been baned in hackforums before
you are scammer
im pro


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 04:40:00 PM

when you click the username im blocked
dont scam me
you have been baned in hackforums before
you are scammer
im pro

Try adding me from the link user above posted.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 04:44:35 PM

when you click the username im blocked
dont scam me
you have been baned in hackforums before
you are scammer
im pro

Try adding me from the link user above posted.
sorry
i have not more money to pay you
you scam me and u have many tricks


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 04:52:54 PM
You got tricked by my impersonator.

I know it's painful but next time you will double check via Bitcointalk message system.

If you think I would take $140 over 3 year business you are delusional.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 13, 2019, 04:54:33 PM
I've never dealt with Podgor, I have no affiliation with him, I don't recall ever interacting with him on the forum, and I don't buy or sell gift cards.  In other words I have no dog in this fight.

I searched Telegram for user "AmazonBaiance" (note the search bar,) and here's what I found:

https://i.imgur.com/BCjSrvh.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/BCjSrvh.jpg)


I also searched for user "AmazonBalance" and found another user that goes by the name "AmazonBalances" with the same front page as the one above:

https://i.imgur.com/bXDzjHl.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/bXDzjHl.jpg)


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 04:56:38 PM
I've never dealt with Podgor, I have no affiliation with him, I don't recall ever interacting with him on the forum, and I don't buy or sell gift cards.  In other words I have no dog in this fight.

I searched Telegram for user "AmazonBaiance" (note the search bar,) and here's what I found:

https://i.imgur.com/BCjSrvh.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/BCjSrvh.jpg)


I also searched for user "AmazonBalance" and found another user that goes by the name "AmazonBalances" with the same front page as the one above:

https://i.imgur.com/bXDzjHl.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/bXDzjHl.jpg)
AmazonBalances?
where is this?
i check your image and there is not AmazonBalances


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: SyGambler on November 13, 2019, 04:57:06 PM
one of my friends who I know in real life now reporting me the seller as scammer as well , he is gonna post the screenshots in few minutes as he told me
once he post the screenshots I will put a negative tag for the seller, I know the guy who got scammed in person but just waiting for screenshots here for reference

the fact that other people reporting that as well make it more clear to me


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 05:01:12 PM
one of my friends who I know in real life now reporting me the seller as scammer as well , he is gonna post the screenshots in few minutes as he told me
once he post the screenshots I will put a negative tag for the seller, I know the guy who got scammed in person but just waiting for screenshots here for reference

the fact that other people reporting that as well make it more clear to me

I have Telegram impersonator.

He has group named AmazonBalances as someone mentioned it. His telegram profile is AmazonBaiance.

I am AmazonBaLance (Podgor).


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 05:04:06 PM
one of my friends who I know in real life now reporting me the seller as scammer as well , he is gonna post the screenshots in few minutes as he told me
once he post the screenshots I will put a negative tag for the seller, I know the guy who got scammed in person but just waiting for screenshots here for reference

the fact that other people reporting that as well make it more clear to me

I have Telegram impersonator.

He has group named AmazonBalances as someone mentioned it. His telegram profile is AmazonBaiance.

I am AmazonBaLance (Podgor).
the 2 man are 1 and its you
if you know it before,whey you dont insert your telegram link in topic?
why you dont mention before about this problem?
why you type your username when you say there is another one?
im sure 2 account are 1 and its you
maybe inm neiwbe here (registered since 2013) but im pro member in most hack forums and i know all this trick well
you can unblock me and refund me and i forget it


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: akamit on November 13, 2019, 05:06:59 PM
I copied Podgor's TG id from his thread and pasted in my TG to search for him.
When I searched I found two results, one is original Podgor and the other one is the imposter.

See the image for a better understanding. GREEN refers to original Podgor and RED one is the imposter. https://i.imgur.com/y1d8y5v.png (https://i.imgur.com/y1d8y5v.png)
I also checked both names in MSword to verify by changing the case to lowercase, and it is confirmed that the red one is the imposter.

Most probably OP thought the first result after the search is the original Podgor, but it's not it's a channel from the imposter. OP visited that channel and grabbed the imposter's id and started the conversation which later led to the scam.


@Podgor
Why don't you stop using TG and Skype bcoz you know you have imposter or maybe change your id.


@tera22
Why didn't you used escrow service? No matter whom you are dealing with Podgor or the imposter, it could have saved your money. Maybe it could cost you $10 but it could also saved your $140.

I know you are upset, I'm upset too but I'd like to know the reason why you haven't used escrow service...


edit: DireWolf also verified the same thing, thanks. I forget to mention about the extra "S" at the end.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 05:08:24 PM
one of my friends who I know in real life now reporting me the seller as scammer as well , he is gonna post the screenshots in few minutes as he told me
once he post the screenshots I will put a negative tag for the seller, I know the guy who got scammed in person but just waiting for screenshots here for reference

the fact that other people reporting that as well make it more clear to me

I have Telegram impersonator.

He has group named AmazonBalances as someone mentioned it. His telegram profile is AmazonBaiance.

I am AmazonBaLance (Podgor).
the 2 man are 1 and its you
if you know it before,whey you dont insert your telegram link in topic?
why you dont mention before about this problem?
why you type your username when you say there is another one?
im sure 2 account are 1 and its you
maybe inm neiwbe here (registered since 2013) but im pro member in most hack forums and i know all this trick well
you can unblock me and refund me and i forget it

I didn't think about posting a link before. 20 minutes ago OmegaStarScream opened my eyes.

I also DO NOT have amazon avatar or Telegram.

I am also NOT named Buy & Sell Amazon. Used to be on skype but I don't use Skype anymore due to the same reason. I had like 4 imposters.

I mentioned 10 times about this problem. I even have info about it in my thread. Had that info for weeks since I discovered an importer.

I can't unlock you because I didn't lock you. You never messaged my telegram.

@Akamit I stopped using Skype 2 weeks ago due to having 4 imposters. If I stop using Telegram I will have.no business. Posted a link instead of name now, hopefully no more people will get tricked.

Do you guys think anything could be done? I reported his group with my links to telegram but they didn't ban him...


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: tera22 on November 13, 2019, 05:15:06 PM
one of my friends who I know in real life now reporting me the seller as scammer as well , he is gonna post the screenshots in few minutes as he told me
once he post the screenshots I will put a negative tag for the seller, I know the guy who got scammed in person but just waiting for screenshots here for reference

the fact that other people reporting that as well make it more clear to me

I have Telegram impersonator.

He has group named AmazonBalances as someone mentioned it. His telegram profile is AmazonBaiance.

I am AmazonBaLance (Podgor).
the 2 man are 1 and its you
if you know it before,whey you dont insert your telegram link in topic?
why you dont mention before about this problem?
why you type your username when you say there is another one?
im sure 2 account are 1 and its you
maybe inm neiwbe here (registered since 2013) but im pro member in most hack forums and i know all this trick well
you can unblock me and refund me and i forget it

I didn't think about posting a link before. 20 minutes ago OmegaStarScream opened my eyes.

I also DO NOT have amazon avatar or Telegram.

I am also NOT named Buy & Sell Amazon. Used to be on skype but I don't use Skype anymore due to the same reason. I had like 4 imposters.

I mentioned 10 times about this problem. I even have info about it in my thread. Had that info for weeks since I discovered an importer.

I can't unlock you because I didn't lock you. You never messaged my telegram.

@Akamit I stopped using Skype 2 weeks ago due to having 4 imposters. If I stop using Telegram I will have.no business. Posted a link instead of name now, hopefully no more people will get tricked.

Do you guys think anything could be done? I reported his group with my links to telegram but they didn't ban him...

your eyes was closed ??
Lol
it was open before and you do it with scam me
your trick was not good one
if you want scam anyone do it like pro



Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 05:17:24 PM
I didn't realize you can use Telegram link to invite someone. People always post their names, I was sure that's the only way.

Stop rationalizing. You got tricked by my impersonator.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 13, 2019, 05:21:46 PM
the 2 man are 1 and its you
if you know it before,whey you dont insert your telegram link in topic?
why you dont mention before about this problem?
why you type your username when you say there is another one?
im sure 2 account are 1 and its you
maybe inm neiwbe here (registered since 2013) but im pro member in most hack forums and i know all this trick well
you can unblock me and refund me and i forget it

I'm sorry you got scammed, I wish there was some way to help you fix your issue.  But, there's no way you can prove that Podgor is the same guy that scammed you.  Podgor did warn of scammers impersonating him on Telegram, I quoted one of those posts above.

As for the screenshots I posted; don't bother trusting them.  Search Telegram yourself.

This is probably the guy who blocked you:
Code:
amazonbaiance

Here's another impersonator:
Code:
amazonbalances

Here's Podgor:
Code:
amazonbalance


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: SyGambler on November 13, 2019, 05:22:27 PM

I have Telegram impersonator.

He has group named AmazonBalances as someone mentioned it. His telegram profile is AmazonBaiance.

I am AmazonBaLance (Podgor).

actually yeah I'm sorry , he contacted me last hour regarding that but now I see the screenshots
it seems he contacted the other account the one you are claiming that a fake account , that's the smartest scam I saw in a while though lol

anyways here are the screenshots he just sent me
https://i.imgur.com/49W0woq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7eBlhRN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EFBN2qw.jpg


I would guess the best thing from now on is to post a direct profile link for telegram , not sure if you had the link posted before but since the handle can be faked with I instead of l in telegram without noticing that would be great

apologies for my last post cause I didn't have much info but I do know the guy in person so I was sure he wasn't lying and the complain here made me more suspicious


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: Podgor on November 13, 2019, 05:41:49 PM

I would guess the best thing from now on is to post a direct profile link for telegram , not sure if you had the link posted before but since the handle can be faked with I instead of l in telegram without noticing that would be great

apologies for my last post cause I didn't have much info but I do know the guy in person so I was sure he wasn't lying and the complain here made me more suspicious

I did that an hour ago. Posted the link that leads to my profile.
Before I had only name and warning about an imposter.
Looks like a warning didn't help, hopefully direct link resolves it all.

Don't be sorry, people like you make this forums better place.


Title: Re: user " Podgor" scam for amazon wishlist and gift card
Post by: sandy-is-fine on November 23, 2019, 08:18:36 PM
Hey TERA22.  You're likely a competitor of Podgor or a scammer yourself.  I have bought MANY times for Podgor for amounts well over $1000 total with zero issues and hopefully getting more now.  Your accusation is BS.  You got fooled, plain and simple that is if anything actually happened.

Folks, look at all TERRA22's previous posts.  Likely a hacked account.  Before this run of his recent posts that began on NOV 13th of this year his last and ONLY posts were EIGHT POSTS between August 28 and August 31 2013 over SIX YEARS AGO coincidentally mostly also selling gift cards.  And most interesting is after his fake accusations he crawled back into the woodwork and disappeared again.