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Title: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on November 16, 2011, 10:16:25 PM Well, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. I was trying to send some btc to a newly generated address so that I could memorize the private key, and then have my BTC in my brain. My clients copy paste function wasn't working correctly, so I decided to type the address in manually. I was lazy, so I didn't double check the address. at least it was only .25 BTC. Just thought I'd share my story with you guys. :) Moral: If you ever manually type an address, double check it.
Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: pirateat40 on November 16, 2011, 10:18:07 PM I would say you were lucky, getting an address just right takes talent. :)
Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: FreeMoney on November 16, 2011, 10:19:15 PM Well, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. I was trying to send some btc to a newly generated address so that I could memorize the private key, and then have my BTC in my brain. My clients copy paste function wasn't working correctly, so I decided to type the address in manually. I was lazy, so I didn't double check the address. at least it was only .25 BTC. Just thought I'd share my story with you guys. :) Moral: If you ever manually type an address, double check it. Seriously unlucky if true. Please share the correct and incorrect address. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: adamstgBit on November 16, 2011, 10:21:30 PM omg 0.25BTC... you'll be kicking yourself in 2 years :P
in the beginning, people did lost of stupid mistakes like that... but with 100's of coins. i hope in the future they will Re-mine the coins lost in the black hole Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on November 16, 2011, 10:42:16 PM (...) Seriously unlucky if true. Please share the correct and incorrect address. Correct: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh) Incorrect: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K) After looking thorougly at both addresses, looks like I accidentally took the end of one address in my addressbook, and used it in the end of the incorrect address. Silly me. :) Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: pirateat40 on November 16, 2011, 10:44:21 PM (...) Seriously unlucky if true. Please share the correct and incorrect address. Correct: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh) Incorrect: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K) After looking thorougly at both addresses, looks like I accidentally took the end of one address in my addressbook, and used it in the end of the incorrect address. Silly me. :) wow, that was way off. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: speeder on November 16, 2011, 10:44:35 PM Seriously unlucky because the way the adresses are generated, means that a random error being valid is VERY, VERY, VERY unlikely.
Even if you mashup 2 adresses at a random point, this is unlikely. You have a ungodly amount of bad luck... Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: bbit on November 16, 2011, 10:46:29 PM Well, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. I was trying to send some btc to a newly generated address so that I could memorize the private key, and then have my BTC in my brain. My clients copy paste function wasn't working correctly, so I decided to type the address in manually. I was lazy, so I didn't double check the address. at least it was only .25 BTC. Just thought I'd share my story with you guys. :) Moral: If you ever manually type an address, double check it. lol sorry had to giggle Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on November 16, 2011, 10:46:55 PM Seriously unlucky because the way the adresses are generated, means that a random error being valid is VERY, VERY, VERY unlikely. Really? I wasn't aware of that. Wow.Even if you mashup 2 adresses at a random point, this is unlikely. You have a ungodly amount of bad luck... Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: adamstgBit on November 16, 2011, 10:47:13 PM Seriously unlucky because the way the adresses are generated, means that a random error being valid is VERY, VERY, VERY unlikely. Even if you mashup 2 adresses at a random point, this is unlikely. You have a ungodly amount of bad luck... LMAO ya man.. WOW, quick Spock compute the odds! Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: pirateat40 on November 16, 2011, 10:50:34 PM Im standing with my "Lucky" comment. Go buy a lotto ticket. :)
Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on November 16, 2011, 10:51:22 PM (...) Seriously unlucky if true. Please share the correct and incorrect address. Correct: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh) Incorrect: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K) After looking thorougly at both addresses, looks like I accidentally took the end of one address in my addressbook, and used it in the end of the incorrect address. Silly me. :) Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: nmat on November 16, 2011, 10:51:45 PM Im standing with my "Lucky" comment. Go buy a lotto ticket. :) i.e.: turn on solo mining for a while ;) Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Matthew N. Wright on November 16, 2011, 10:52:02 PM Quote Sent some btc into a black hole You sent bitcoins to http://rochellehub.co.cc/donate.html ? ??? Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Gavin Andresen on November 16, 2011, 10:52:15 PM Neither of those addresses are valid according to my bitcoind:
Code: $ bitcoind validateaddress 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh The checksum in addresses is 4 bytes, so there is a one-in-four-billion chance that a random typo would get you a valid address. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: pirateat40 on November 16, 2011, 10:54:14 PM Well if this is true, that's not good.
Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on November 16, 2011, 10:56:31 PM Neither of those addresses are valid according to my bitcoind: Not sure I understand. If they aren't valid, why are they in the block explorer?Code: $ bitcoind validateaddress 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh The checksum in addresses is 4 bytes, so there is a one-in-four-billion chance that a random typo would get you a valid address. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Explodicle on November 16, 2011, 11:07:29 PM omg 0.25BTC... you'll be kicking yourself in 2 years :P in the beginning, people did lost of stupid mistakes like that... but with 100's of coins. i hope in the future they will Re-mine the coins lost in the black hole Someone mentioned this idea a little while back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44511.0 Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Mushroomized on November 16, 2011, 11:17:51 PM I want bitcoins in my brain, brb memorizing privikeys
Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: theymos on November 16, 2011, 11:43:08 PM Neither of those addresses are valid according to my bitcoind: My client (version 0.3.15) says they're valid. Bytecoin has mentioned that the checksum doesn't work as well as you would expect. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Gavin Andresen on November 16, 2011, 11:55:43 PM D'oh! I was running a -testnet bitcoind....
Never mind. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: pirateat40 on November 17, 2011, 12:05:42 AM D'oh! I was running a -testnet bitcoind.... Never mind. hehe, no worries you have enough on your plate. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Maged on November 17, 2011, 12:56:20 AM (...) Seriously unlucky if true. Please share the correct and incorrect address. Correct: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjwAMFZG9CJh) Incorrect: 1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1AYSPTVt8WytG12Kz9guUpXjeAMFb7AX2K) After looking thorougly at both addresses, looks like I accidentally took the end of one address in my addressbook, and used it in the end of the incorrect address. Silly me. :) Code: def bc_address_to_hash_160(addr): What's terrible about this is that the checking code is already implemented in DecodeBase58Check. I suspect that this was a simple oversight, since it'd take only a few minutes to fix this. Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: ThomasV on November 17, 2011, 01:02:02 AM my bad, the bug was in Electrum. I just fixed it and released a new version.
Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: Atheros on November 17, 2011, 02:52:02 AM Bytecoin has mentioned that the checksum doesn't work as well as you would expect. How could it not? https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/9/9b/PubKeyToAddr.png If one screws up the base58 address at all, wouldn't that mean that the 25-byte binary address is different? Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: theymos on November 17, 2011, 04:50:15 AM How could it not? https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/9/9b/PubKeyToAddr.png If one screws up the base58 address at all, wouldn't that mean that the 25-byte binary address is different? I'm not familiar with the details, but here's a quote: This may be an appropriate thread to mention that the the "checksum" at the end of an address does not effectively prevent single character errors or transpositions. For instance https://blockexplorer.com/search/1ByteCoin shows that Code: 1ByteCoinAddressesMatch1kpCWNXmHKW Similarly, the valid addresses Code: 1ByteCoinAddressesMatchcNN781jjwLY ByteCoin Title: Re: Sent some btc into a black hole Post by: btc_artist on November 17, 2011, 11:51:09 PM i hope in the future they will Re-mine the coins lost in the black hole Maybe if they were categorically proven to be invalid addresses. :) |