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Title: Cancel reports?
Post by: marlboroza on November 25, 2019, 11:21:40 PM
It would be good if users could "cancel" their reports, for example this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204240.msg53180258#msg53180258) was reported because it was off topic:

https://i.imgur.com/TsL8vSS.png

After editing, it is not off topic any more:

https://i.imgur.com/m4XmTx5.png

...and report will probably be marked as bad.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Gyfts on November 25, 2019, 11:40:09 PM
Does reporting accuracy have any effect on whether moderators look at your reports or not? I like the idea of canceling reports but I can't imagine a few bad reports should have any major consequences.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 25, 2019, 11:48:19 PM
Does reporting accuracy have any effect on whether moderators look at your reports or not? I like the idea of canceling reports but I can't imagine a few bad reports should have any major consequences.
I can't remember where but IIRC, theymos said something like this - Your reporting accuracy doesn't matter, just keep reporting as many posts as you can. Cancel the report will be a good feature to have but not sure how many members will actually use it. I never go back to track the reported post.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: jackg on November 25, 2019, 11:53:56 PM
Surely the mods can see the post has been edited since it was reported? I thought a report would have the original text with it. Was the report marked bad?


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Lafu on November 26, 2019, 12:00:14 AM
I guess not , that the report has the original post with it !

Because i has reported some german thread in altcoins as an double report but in the mean time he edited the thread to english and my report was marked as bad.

They get only an link for the report and the information you have put in the report.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: TryNinja on November 26, 2019, 12:07:58 AM
I may be wrong, but I recall seeing someone (maybe even a mod) saying that you can report again and write "disconsider my last report" or similar. And in all cases, having it market as bad does nothing to your account, as others have mentioned above.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: marlboroza on November 26, 2019, 12:20:39 AM
I may be wrong, but I recall seeing someone (maybe even a mod) saying that you can report again and write "disconsider my last report" or similar.
I did that once and one was marked as bad (it would have been marked as bad or unhandled either way) and I can't remember what happened to the other.
And in all cases, having it market as bad does nothing to your account, as others have mentioned above.
I know, but it waste mod's time  ::) It was just a thought.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: dkbit98 on November 26, 2019, 12:39:15 AM
I would support this suggestion.
After reporting several members who where banned, I had bunch of reports marked as bad.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: xolxol on November 26, 2019, 02:58:14 AM
your colleagues can use this to control the system,anyone can blackmail using this idiotic suggestion then accept bribes in exchange on those people who might banned for their posts.Police wannabe like you can this for blackmailing  :'(


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: jackg on November 26, 2019, 03:02:09 AM
your colleagues can use this to control the system,anyone can blackmail using this idiotic suggestion then accept bribes in exchange on those people who might banned for their posts.Police wannabe like you can this for blackmailing  :'(

How though? And you can just blackmail the mods or Theymos instead?



It's a good idea I just think the edited posts make up a fraction of what the mods deal with. @tryninja everyone likes a good % score.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Vod on November 26, 2019, 03:27:19 AM
I can't remember where but IIRC, theymos said something like this

When you click "Report to moderator" link:

Quote
Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Upgrade00 on November 26, 2019, 03:36:57 AM
I may be wrong, but I recall seeing someone (maybe even a mod) saying that you can report again and write "disconsider my last report" or similar. And in all cases, having it market as bad does nothing to your account, as others have mentioned above.

If it's on a general board, there is a possibility that two different mods would check the two different reports. If the second report comes at a more later time even the same mod would have to I backtrack a while to reconcile both reports.
Reporting accuracy is not really a big issue and hence moderators could use that time to handle other active reports.
Also there are only 4 stages of a report: pending, good, bad, and unhandled. If the current status of the report is bad when you consider the edit, then what alternative would be given?


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: TheUltraElite on November 26, 2019, 08:39:29 AM
Considering the amount of work that the mods of this forum have to get done in a single day, I still think every mod does their work sincerely and checks editing and timestamps before marking the report as good or bad.

@marlboroza

I have seen some of my reports remained unhandled even today - now consider this situation:

A wannabe mod who has a somewhat established name here, tries their luck at reporting posts as they wish without knowing the community guidelines and they get a number of unhandled and good reports. What they would do after this is "cancel" all the unhandled reports because technically they are not "handled" by any mod, since they decided that no action was needed for it and it is open to being marked as good or bad.

In this way they may try to get their accuracy rating high - not sure if the accuracy rating is based on only good and bad reports? Thanks @DdmrDdmr

So in this manner is one could cancel the reports they could get their rating high in short period of time allowing them to cheat the system. Obviously it would not remain so for long.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on November 26, 2019, 08:47:49 AM
<> not sure if the accuracy rating is based on only good and bad reports?
It is, unless something changed over the last few years, unhandled reports are not used when calculating the accuracy:

<> "Unhandled" means that every moderator with jurisdiction over the post was unsure about the correct thing to do with the post and so left it for other mods to deal with, but no mod ever decided to act on it. I suppose it can be thought of as a "weak bad", though it's ignored for your accuracy percentage <>


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Lafu on November 26, 2019, 09:12:43 AM
Suggestion !

Maybe its possible to get something like this !

When you click on your reports page the unhandled is marked and when you click on it a new page open with all unhandled reports show up !

https://i.ibb.co/7KGbvM4/unhandledreports.png

If we would get this there can be marlboroza's suggestion be there.

Can be looking like this maybe !

https://i.ibb.co/chS5c8f/unhandledreportscancel1.png

Its just an idea for when we should be getting this.

Would be nice to get it .




Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: hilariousandco on November 26, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
I guess it would be helpful in some cases, though in cases like this just make another report with an update or just PM a staff member about it, but as others said one or two bad reports is irrelevant.

Does reporting accuracy have any effect on whether moderators look at your reports or not? I like the idea of canceling reports but I can't imagine a few bad reports should have any major consequences.

No. Not unless you had like 99% bad reports or were using the report queue to troll in some capacity.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: libert19 on November 27, 2019, 03:13:53 AM
I don't track reported posts and think that doing so would be pretty pointless. Just be little careful with posts you report and anyway having some reports bad doesn't mean end of world.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: UserU on November 27, 2019, 06:26:18 AM
I guess it would be helpful in some cases, though in cases like this just make another report with an update or just PM a staff member about it, but as others said one or two bad reports is irrelevant.

Does reporting accuracy have any effect on whether moderators look at your reports or not? I like the idea of canceling reports but I can't imagine a few bad reports should have any major consequences.

No. Not unless you had like 99% bad reports or were using the report queue to troll in some capacity.

So if the user decides to pull back the report, will it be marked as Bad or simply deleted so the accuracy remains unaffected?


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: marlboroza on November 28, 2019, 03:24:07 PM
So if the user decides to pull back the report, will it be marked as Bad or simply deleted so the accuracy remains unaffected?
It shouldn't be marked at all. Someone cancel report and it disappear, that is whole idea. To avoid abuse (for example canceling reports which remained unhandled because they are "soft bad" or "for any other reason" and then reporting them again) countdown could be set to, I don't know, 1 day and after that you can't cancel it any more.

I don't track reported posts and think that doing so would be pretty pointless.
How is canceling something pointless?
Just be little careful with posts you report
Elaborate this using example from this topic you obviously didn't read  ::)


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: The Pharmacist on November 28, 2019, 03:38:05 PM
Cancel the report will be a good feature to have but not sure how many members will actually use it. I never go back to track the reported post.
I would have used it quite a few times in the past few years, especially when I was doing a lot of shitpost reporting all at once.  There were a number of times I went back to a member's post history and ended up double-reporting a post by accident.  It would have been nice to have been able to cancel those reports, and I think it would be a good function to have.  The mods would be benefited by it as well, probably even more so than reporters, since if posts are erroneously reported they have to figure that out themselves and waste their time doing it.

I don't really care much about my accuracy, since I'm not shooting to be one of the top reporters or the most accurate--but if this wouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to implement, I think it would be a good function to have.  Personally I hate making a mistake when reporting a post just because I feel like an idiot. 

How is canceling something pointless?
It's not at all pointless IMO.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: rhomelmabini on November 28, 2019, 03:58:45 PM
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Something like this is enough if implemented and there are really times that you mistakenly type the comment you wanted to add on the report and because it has been passed anymore there's nothing you can do about it, so in the end, it will be marked as bad.

It shouldn't be marked at all. Someone cancel report and it disappear, that is whole idea. To avoid abuse (for example canceling reports which remained unhandled because they are "soft bad" or "for any other reason" and then reporting them again) countdown could be set to, I don't know, 1 day and after that you can't cancel it any more.
I don't think a countdown will be a thing I guess it will stay there as long as it hasn't been handled yet by a mod if there's a countdown to it I guess that should be the unhandled report but it will be the vice versa that if an unhandled report hasn't been handled yet for a week you can delete that report. Though the latter suggestion seems vague since reports are piling up and the report history page doesn't include all of your reports but if there's a link to it then it will be nice to delete or cancel unhandled reports because I don't think that it will be handled anymore by mods especially if a year has already passed.

Elaborate this using example from this topic you obviously didn't read  ::)
He's caring for his quantity post for a penny.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: Harlot on November 28, 2019, 04:49:02 PM
I think what will matter here is the times affected from the report. What I mean about that is if you reported it on his first post without edits and then the post have been edited I think the report should be invalidated for the reaaon that your original report is based on the first post and its not entirely about the new edited post now. Or are post reports just like deleted posts are reported as it is on the time it has been reported and the mods can see the original contemnt of the post?


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: dkbit98 on November 28, 2019, 05:24:55 PM
For some time I have 22 unhandled reports now.
I would like them to be resolved, but if not then I would like to review cancel them.
I think this would make life a bit easier for mods also.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: TryNinja on November 28, 2019, 05:32:53 PM
For some time I have 22 unhandled reports now.
I would like them to be resolved, but if not then I would like to review cancel them.
I think this would make life a bit easier for mods also.
If they remain unhandled for so long, it means none of the mods knew what to do with the report (nor good nor bad) and they just skipped it. Just don't mind them, since these are not making their lifes any harder.


Title: Re: Cancel reports?
Post by: hilariousandco on November 29, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
I guess it would be helpful in some cases, though in cases like this just make another report with an update or just PM a staff member about it, but as others said one or two bad reports is irrelevant.

Does reporting accuracy have any effect on whether moderators look at your reports or not? I like the idea of canceling reports but I can't imagine a few bad reports should have any major consequences.

No. Not unless you had like 99% bad reports or were using the report queue to troll in some capacity.

So if the user decides to pull back the report, will it be marked as Bad or simply deleted so the accuracy remains unaffected?


Well marking it as bad would be counter-productive I think. It probably should just be scrubbed/deleted from the queue.