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I have liked some numbers of bounty in this year 2019, and i hope everyone bounty hunter will be happy for participating of this project. What do you think about those bounty, you are still working on yet? You have any complain about any bounty??

1. BuyAnyLight:
PRIVATE SALE (already finished)
Price was (0.2$)
PRE -IEO start November 1st and end 31 January 2020.
Price fixed: (0.25$)
IEO will be start 1st February and end 29 February.
IEO price will fixed: (0.30303$)

Bounty Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206413.0
ANN Thread Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193049.0
Some info: Total duration for the bounty campaign (10 weeks) Every participant will be need complete KYC..

2. PGPay:
Token Sale Start Time
Dec 02, 2019, 11:00 UTC
Token Sale End Time
Jan 31, 2020, 23:00 UTC
IEO Price : $0.45.

(PGPay Confirmed Exchanges
Whitebit Exchange
Tokpie Exchange
Vindax Exchange
Coinlim Exchange)

Bounty Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206043.0
ANN thread Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2687883
Some info: bounty Duration (8 weeks).
Start: December 01, 2019
End:  February 01, 2020
KYC not required for bounty hunter.

3. Intelligent HERO:
Seed sale phase, start November 30th and end December 30th
Price will fixed: (0.1$) with 80% discount.
IEO Phase 1
January 10th- February 10th
1 HERO=$0.2 (60% discount)
IEO Phase 2
February 20th-March 20th
1 HERO=$0.3 (40% discount)

Bounty Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206252.0
ANN thread Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205650.0
Some info: Bounty campaign shall last for (16 weeks) and KYC not required for bounty participate.

4. Emirex Exchange:
Their target IEO can be finished in January 2020 (Not fixed date)

Bounty Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204784.0
ANN thread: (No have)
Some info: Bounty Campaign round 1 Dates: 26 November - 30 December, lasts for 35 days.
KYC not required for bounty hunter.

5. iatokens:
There IEO will start soon with probit exchange (No have fixed date)

Bounty Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5199812.0
ANN thread: (No have)
Some info:
This campaign will run for (8 weeks) and maybe KYC not required.

First thanks to all and second if you have connected any good project then give me link, i will add for helping everyone new bounty Hunter and old also. If you have any react bad side about all bounty then you can share here

These are new bounties from altcoin bounties section on this forum, this doesn't make them good bounties until they are over and have real good value on exchanges, in bounty world the end always justifies the means, it would have been better if you can illustrate on what makes this project worth trying out?

Real use cases, working products and good partnerships is what i look for in new projects this days, if these aren't present i will look away, buyanylight project is the only one that interest me because of the working product but i am not 100% sure, but PGpay has been around for a while and one of the problem with the project is lack of volume on those exchanges its listed on, the intelligent Hero? no

Emirex token is trading already which makes it worth giving a try out but getting paid after bounty ends is where the problem is, i don't know anything about the bounty manager, iatoken bounty is from Arteezy this is why its the best among the lists of bounties on here, since many projects are treating bounty hunters badly bounty managers should be your first thing to focus on after doing research on the project

Probably the OP meant was the most or convincing bounty for 2019 that has recently surface. It's quite obvious that these list are new projects. Bounty means still on promotions so definitely soms of these project are still on the verge of life and death and can still be unsuccessful cause they are on their current stage of crowdfunding.

Thanks for sharing. From the list Ive pick to join the number 1 and its seems a new platform with different output. Plus the team is very open and transparent. Good pick mate!

The best bounties of these year 2019 are already over but they are bounties people least expected to be successful, i will start from Tokoin and gowithmi, i haven't seen any other that beats this two projects this year in terms of good rewards and good trading volume, no bounty is good until they start trading

I keep asking myself what good this buyanylight project will gain out of blockchain and crypto world, they have real working product but it doesn't make sense to order bulbs and lights with tokens, how will this help crypto space? i have ways of viewing new projects of today, if a new project is not solving crypto related issues i doubt it will do well, this is not 2017 anymore

Good bounty lists, i will advise everyone to their own research before promoting any bounty projects on OP list, there is no guarantee what the outcome of these projects will be and moreover they are still gathering funds for the projects which must not fail, if it does the project is a goner

You should make a reason why you choosed them as a top 5 good bounties this year. Because if you just list like this people won't trust. You should at least make the parameters of the list such as from the team, whitepapers, or thr hype of the community

The problem is not all new projects will raise their fund successfully and if that happens there is no way to continue the project, its going to get abandoned, since emirex and PGpay is already trading i make sense to promote them

Maybe this is the top version bounty op. Top bounty, in my opinion, is a bounty that has seen its original price in the market and above the IEO price.
Because if it's not the same, the bounty hunters will work for free without producing anything.
Therefore it is very unreasonable to also mention this is a good bounty or bad bounty at the beginning. Because in the end the results can be determined on the exchange. Because the most important thing is the results or money for bounty hunters. Is it worth or not.

Its always about what happens after bounty is finally over and the tokens get listed, that is when you will know if the project is good or not because many bounties that seem to be promising on my own list ends been garbage

Seriously Tokoin is the best for me, after trading start i was waiting to buy the dip since i expected the price to fall hard because of dumpers but it never happened, i was shocked because i haven't seen a project that can withstand dump since 2017

Ill checked them already maybe those bounties listed are worth to participate but we need to read some information they have if they are successful for the project promoted. But it depends on us if we participated or not, Maybe one of us in here will pick the number 1 spot it looks this is a promising bounty campaign that all bounty hunters waiting for this kind of bounty.

I think if the payment uses a token and escrow is not included to a trusted bounty manager then no one will know that the bounty campaign is legit or not, whereas if the bounty campaign has a payment system using Bitcoin and has already escorted to the bounty manager then it can be said that the bounty campaign is good, whereas at the moment there are very few bounty campaigns like that.

Its emirex and pgpay for me because they are already trading, though the bounty pool will be small but better than joining bounty rewards with million dollar reward and in the end they are shitcoins

I haven't checked out these bounties yet, hope they are going to worth my time, although since we are near to 2020 i expect good new bounties to show up now because many devs are waiting for the early year, thanks for the info anyways

I also like the safety of projects that you say, though there are more interesting projects (most of them are empty promises). I have participated in many bonus campaigns and determined it is no longer as reliable as before.

Well thanks for sharing of your list! Honestly i already join on Emirex and PG Pay bounties but same as other said "that until the bounty is not yet finish we cant till anything about the outcome and to be consider it was the best, or otherwise it was already a liquid coin/token. Like Gold Stable Coin bounty which i'm wearing in my signature started in June 2019 until now it wasn't missed any payments to date, for me it was the best bounty in 2019 that i have joined you can directly exchange the Gold token into Eth,btc in its own marketplace, including other 5 exchanges.

Of the five projects after i see numbers 1 and 2 that look legit bounty. because after seeing the concept offered by the project is very good and a good opportunity for bounty hunters to follow his campaign

I tried to reach out to buyanylight team but they aren't ready to disclose the exchange they have in mind, right now what matters the most is the exchange a token or coin wants to list on because liquidity is very important, i think PGpay is the best on OP list

sincerely speaking the 1st bounty seem legit, the teams are sincere and they seem to have nothing to hide, since its real working product i expect good result from them either ways you won't know until its over

different from you, for 2019 I just haven't gotten a prize from a good bounty. in the sense that the income that I got this year is not as good as in 2017. But this time I followed social media for emirex, hopefully I get good results

Thanks mate, I was searching for good campaigns and it was really difficult to find some. Campaigns by Arteezy are always great, PGpay seems strange to me and exchange bounty is not worth it in my opinion. 3 exchanges listing but all of them are bad.

Here I find Emirex and PGPay to be most trusted. Emirex has been trading on Coinsbit and has quite good volume, which will create safety for bounty hunters, they never have to worry about fraud. Besides, PGPay is also backed by Gold, which is one of my favorite things and they work with Tokpie. one small exchange and bring fair to the bounty hunters. means we can convert stakes = ETH or USDC. I just encourage us to take part in these two campaigns.

I have liked some numbers of bounty in this year 2019, and i hope everyone bounty hunter will be happy for participating of this project. What do you think about those bounty, you are still working on yet? You have any complain about any bounty??



First thanks to all and second if you have connected any good project then give me link, i will add for helping everyone new bounty Hunter and old also. If you have any react bad side about all bounty then you can share here

thanks man, I'll check these out.

I heard from a friend that this project has an office and also has an official license from one of the institutions in Europe. but when I see a discount, can this be a very good project?
good project = good bounty too, right?

thanks for the quick list op  .i didnt thought that good bounties still exist on this year ? because what it thought is that bounties already died a long time ago  . what i dont like is that why your late ? you posted these while we are now about to end the year 2019  .

i dont also recognize any bounty that you posted but i did recognize some good bounties before and you didnt include it them on your list  . oh well . i just hope that the state of the bounties will return after january kicks in  .

I have joined IMO, Emirex and buy and light that have worth 3 bounties but not all have good worth, thae number one is IMO that will be pay good amount and number second is Emirex bounty, this is also good bounty and buy and light joined yesterday but other two bounties do not have good worth PG Pay and intelligent  HERO.

still the same, doubtful. sometimes even though they say it's good, but when it's already listed on the market exchange, in fact the price will disappoint. sometimes very far from predictions, which was $ 0.1, could be $ 0.00001. I've experienced that before so I'm still thinking again.

What a strange list of “good bounties” from 2019.

First of all year 2019 is not finished yet. How can they be good, if distribution will be in 2020 only ? :)

Secondly, this bounties look like “just s list of recent bounties from bounty section, that doesnt look like obvious scam”.

For me, good bounty was from scam project MiracleTele. I’ve got some tokens, traded them, bought more and sold with profit.

80% discount for a start up project is too good to be true for me, way too much and belief me this will easily result into dump after listing on exchange, secondly the project idea is not something new, we already have something like this in crypto space already

That is a very impressive list of bounty campaigns. However I think we should take note of their progress too. I remember taking part in Icacoin campaign and it has ended several weeks ago but still no date of presale/token sale (if there will ever be any)

Luckily i was able to join the BuyAnyLight signature campaign 2 days ago for a paid per week which was big enough for the current bounty campaign. Because there are rarely campaigns that pay participants quite expensive

 i can only say a bounty is good after payment and there is a good price in the market for hunters to sell and make some money . otherwise there is no way you can say a bounty is good when the  project itself has not succeeded yet.

Most of bounty you listed comes from IEO. But you dont list where the exchange which hold that IEO
You should add the exchange in explanation so all people will know it

There are many bounty which ends scam. Many people would be doubt with bounty
I just hope the bounty you listed wont be scam

You are very good-natured, let's share projects in this topic that are really worth attention, so we can make each other richer, the only thing that I think the EMIREX project is not worthy of this list, since its token is already being traded on very low-liquid exchanges and after distribution, its price will fly away underground and as a result we will receive insignificant pennies.

just a suggestion, IMO ecosystem should also be included in the list because I know that this project was completed on December 10th. although there is no more chance to participate in the signature campaign, but I think participants still have the opportunity to follow the creative content. CMIIW
besides that, I am interested in the BuyAnyLight and Emirex Exchange projects. for other projects, I might need to find information for that. BTW, this is a good discussion for bounty hunters.

You are lucky you sold your miracle tele while you can, i was so dumb to see its true color and i hold 5000 pieces of miracle tele tokens till date, i thought it was a legit project, they got me good but no moving forward if there is no lessons to be learn

Bounties are like chameleons, the most promising ones can fail im the end and the few ones you thought are garbage will give better result, once upon a time i ridiculed ferrum network and now its one of the successful startup projects this year

Every bounties i underestimated this year turned out good, from gowithmi down to taklimakan, the lesson i have learned about bounties is never to be too sure and relent on a single bounty project, would be better to join all the four bounties on OP list

Thanks for sharing good info about the ongoing best bounty project I have already joined almost all these projects and hope these will be the best in 2019.

I made a small research on the mentioned bounty campaigns, some bounty campaigns have the high bounty allocation which is not good from the price viewpoint after getting listed. The Emirex exchange is UAE based and their $100k total bounty allocation is a myth, according to the Coingecko the pumped prices show the $60000 equivalent bounty tokens. PgPay bounty manager wrote about the ETH payments but after reading the bounty thread I get the point of using Tokpie exchange for trading bounty stakes.

Actually those two you mention I checked already that have some many bounty hunters participate on that campaign. Maybe they are more trusted than we expected that we always encounter some scam bounties for so long. And for now some trusted bounty campaign are coming one by one in this month, Well Ill think this will be a good start for us a bounty hunter find a project that we waiting for so long and we hope there are lots of them coming.

Really interesting topic, Thank you for your research about these great bounties, in my opinion about the emirex project seems promising project with a full informative whitepaper and a good team and currently the project tokens are traded on three exchange platforms, as the project token ranked 361 in coinmarketcap with market cap of 6,438,701$ I hope that next year will be full of profits for the bounty hunters, I wish them to search first for any bounty before they join and then catch the opportunity.

Emirex exchange is a good project with the best bounty. I don't think the good bounty campaigns will take the meaningless decisions like delaying bounty. The other mentioned bounty campaigns don't have the potential to reach their goal, in my humble opinion. BuyAnyLight project also huge partnership agreements and I doubt they will fail to reach their goal in the future.

Nice mate with your mind basically i have share some ongoing bounty in this year 2019 but now depends on their developing processing. In fact at this time very smart everyone investors and their follow a project future development planning. So i hope we can over 2019 years of this bounty list.
Note: if i will receive other good one then i will be added this topic.

It's a big help especially for those who are looking for trusted bounties. We all know that it's very hard to find legit and paying bounties these days so this type of information would really be helpful. We just have to make sure that we are still checking its legitimacy each day. If we will continue to share this kind of information to everyone, it will be a big help to eliminate scam projects.

I'm personally not sure the other projects will succeed, but I am very confident both of these projects will succeed. PGPay and Emirex have listed their tokens on a large exchange.

nb: participate in this both bounty program projects at your own risk

Especially we can see there future developing roadmap then start your promoting service provide because a project will be successful depends 95% of their developing section. Yes PGPay and Emirex two good campaign and already have exchange with nice price so i like to thanks everyone welcome to work two campaign definitely.

Actually we can't conclude on which of these can be successful in the future. For me I have no confidence towards it, because after 2 years I've been facing financial problems due to failure bounties. Not bad at all, at least making a good tries can be a 50/50 chances for year 2020 bounties to come up good outcomes even though there's risk involved.

PGPAY seems good, if ever I'll change my signature among those other campaign. I will join in PGPAY they do updates their way of marketing to still have audiences and investors despite the bear market. Though it's still risky but if theres no other paying campaigns that provide weekly payment in BTC then PGpay it's a must try to risk since who knows if it really pays then we can earn. Besides that's how bounty works.

Since we have a own path to join every bounties here, its up to them to think it up what is suitted for them to join as usual every project get scam like you are gonna earn or not.

I recommend it, PGpay good one so everyone can be joining i hope will give good amount. I like to thanks pgpay team and personally i am impressed their staking trading system hope everyone bounty hunter will be happy for participating pgpay bounty.

Hi,

We would certainly like to explain to you the use case of blockchain within the BuyAnyLight project.

See, we have been in the industry for the last five years i.e., since 2015, under Almani Lighting LLC, Dubai, UAE, and Almmani Lighting Gmbh Aachen, Germany. Now, while we are doing business in Almani, we often face this issue of

i) Trust deficiency between buyers and suppliers. This is not 1 or 2 lights, but orders of a fairly large scale for homes or towers or contracts.
ii) Price issues: buyers want to buy cheap while retailers (and manufacturers) want to sell expensive.
iii) Logistic Issues: Traceability is a major concern when it comes to big orders and delays; defected orders is a normal routine within the industry.
iv) Payment issues: Often, payments get stuck with buyers, which causes massive losses for suppliers.
v) The traditional sourcing process is slow and hectic. You need to choose a vendor, make a prepayment, and then wait for weeks if not months for the order to be delivered. In the mean, while all you can do is chase your vendor as you don't have any traceability of the order.

Now, with the BuyAnyLight platform, you simply submit your requirements by creating a buyer account on https://buyanylight.com. Based on the requirements submitted, the BuyAnyLight platform (Light Finder) AI-based matching engine assesses it and present it to the right manufacturers, who are given an opportunity of trustless, transparent bidding. The most reasonable offer is selected and presented to you, the buyer.

Once you have approved, you make the payment, which is held within Smart Contracts (self-enforceable programmable contracts), which release the amount only once the order has been delivered to you. All these activities, right from the manufacturer to the supply chain and then to you, are recorded on a blockchain, so traceability is added, and you can check it on an explorer.

Furthermore, as transactions are trustless, so the need for an intermediary is removed, which not only eliminates the trust issues but also reduces the costs significantly, which helps us offer products at far better rates.  

We hope you have got a connection. If you still think there is any confusion, please feel free to read our white paper at https://buyanylight.com/ieo and also do check our Yellow Paper.

The reason being most of the dealings you are doing with these exchanges (until it is made public) are covered by a Non Disclosure Agreement. Considering which, it is both illegal and unethical to share some information. We hope you understand our stance.

Thank You

Bounty now is indeed difficult to determine which is better even though already listed on the exchange whether their tokens will rise in the future ?? well I just think if we join the bounty and after getting rewards immediately sell it don't save for so long because I'm not so sure of future increases, it's better to look for a bounty that really promises and makes money.

It so hard to say if bounty for now are legit and paying, cause sometimes you thought a bounty is legit but in the end it will become scam. Before  joining a campaign doing research is a must.

Yes it hard to search very promising bounty but i share some good bounty in end of this year. You can research about all bounty before joining i hope you can impress something.

Obviously we see that the new bounty in 2019 is listed op, it has been proven that maybe the purpose of the new project that ensures success in 2019 is still there, there are several new projects that are not successful in promoting their prizes, it is very hard for finding a new project lately is very difficult because it cannot show real performance or real industry as well as many spammers in the crypto room, we hope that in the future it will be even better than 2019

All of these bounties on OP didn't proved anything yet. How can you know they are all legit bounties? Their ICO/IEO didn't even started yet, and even it goes smoothly or they reached hardcap. Altcoin bounty already dead since 2018, now we are back to bitcoin

For sure that is based for personal assumptions but actually it's really bit hard to find a good bounties right now that's why for me it's better to rest for that category and focus on other things since it's sad to see our efforts will not be credited in the end. But actually I will not altcoin bounty campaign is totally dead since maybe for now we are not on best shape but in future provably there are legit that will came to the scene.

Of course not :-* i haven't shere surely all project will be confirmed successful, especially i just share good project like trust team developing and their future roadmap. But EMIREX and PGPAY two have good value their coin so no need to worry you can check all then participate which best.

i also experience that feeling but mine is a different one ,im still holding that coin and my mistake i didnt sold them when it has value and now its starting to goodbye.

hope you already learned your lesson by here  that its better to sell while you can or if the coin is still hot because you wont know maybe tomorrow it will dump hard and wont return to normal anymore  . many projects are actually like that that at first thought you will believe on them or they will look geniune but deep inside they have an evil plan later on   . i dont join bounties anymore so i cant recomend a good one but some hunters say that there are still good bounties by this year  . well let see if there will be a good bounty next year  .

Dont ask for too much or else you will end up blaming yourself for what youve done. If you have the opportunity, sell it dont ask for too much cause its not good.

Not only you, I am also facing the same issues with the coins I received through the bounty, already the coins last value in the market, which it is impossible to sell them, but companies and investors kept blaming the bounty hunters for the decreasing price. People like us are still holding the bounty tokens.

This bounty has something shadow. According to my research, they already got bounty thread in 2018 and still not distributed reward. Proof is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4044551
We all should be careful and DYOR before joining any bounties or we will waste our time and effort.

PGpay project claimed they are backed by real gold but before they swap from PGTS to PGpay the project performed worse, actually till date i have never seen projects backed by real gold doing well

I think you should add new bounties like tronbomb and cartesi, they are still good, i personally like projects running off tron blockchain and for the fact that tron doesn't allow fake projects on its blockchain makes a whole lot of sense

No good bounties in this year in my point of view.
Many bounties ran on 2018 was looking best time and opportunity to list the coin and token but nothing useful for them. This complete year we can came over the many scam projects and we learned how to avoid the scammers ;)

Thank you Pinyin for sharing these bounty campaigns. I need to do some research on them before I can decide which one to start. ::)

The only bounty projects that surprised me this year is tokoin and thinkcoin, i even heard someone made 20k from that thinkcoin bounty and tokoin withstand all dumps without losing a bit of value, these are what i called real bounty projects, do your own research and hope for some lucks

Not all the gifts this year are bad, all there must be some successful projects in some bounties and I participated in them, for example Temtum, Sessia etc.
Winning the fraud project still exists but we must be able to scan it by examining it in more detail, because if the project is successful but after entering the market it becomes garbage it is still not categorized as a successful project..

All bounties that are claimed are good according to the OP, we just wait after their IEO is finished and enter the market, and time will prove that the projects are indeed potential projects. I cannot claim yet if the projects are really good because the project is still running and has not provided any evidence. This is just the beginning.

Take your time mate' we always need more research about those bounty before joining because bounty hunter work not easy thinking.
Personally my recommend you can check pgpay bounty i hope you will impressed it because pgpay already improve good developing.

This may sound like a shill post (especially when I'm the one running their campaign and is wearing their signature but bear with me  :D )
If you are looking for a good bounty campaign to end 2019, I would suggest bmy.guide's Postcard campaign.
Why? For one, it pays in Bitcoins and two, you get to use your useless travel photos and earn something from it!
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210650 (or you could just check my signature)
They also have a more traditional campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208770

Thanks for sharing yes bmy really amazing project i hope this project will be good successful. No need to worry i will add your campaign in this topic soon. Best of luck manager i hope everyone bounty hunter will enjoy this bounty.

Seems to be, there are many bounty hunters showing a lot of interest towards this bmy.guide, but everything depends upon the company whether they have the ability to develop the things after their crowdsales. Everything seems to be perfect before crowdsales, we have to wait and see how far this will get reputation in the market.

Hmmm, nice concept. Too bad it's already close for new participants for Philippines and Vietnam
While it's good to know that  payment is being escrowed and weekly payment is updated.

Well, the payment is in bitcoin and not their token so I guess that's already a wise move for bounty participants. I mean they wouldn't deal anymore with shitty tokens.

But it is too early to tell whether this project is good or not. The ultimate test is the IEO. Even if the project appears to be good enough for all of  us if the IEO does not raise even the soft cap, that means the project is not good enough for the investors. If the investors consider it bad, then the project is most probably bad. We still have to wait for the progress of the project.

This is quite true, we won't know for sure until the bounty ends. Or at least until it reaches its soft cap. But it also doesn't mean thag it will also be good. I've seen tons project after reached the softcap, well, that's all. The coin/token doesn't have value in the market or cannot survive.

I agree. I guess there are several ways to measure the success of a project. If the project is reaching its hard cap that means it is already successful on the first stage. But then the project's operation after the ICO or IEO needs a different measurement of success. You are right that there are so many projects that reached the soft cap but failed to operate the way they should. They are still bad projects. But if the project is not reaching its soft cap but realizes later on its roadmap and product releases then it is still successful.

Yes you are right some point but we cannot specify a project that will be a success at same thinking those projects will be confirmed failed. Actually this topic for everyone bounty hunter so i have share some good bounty for ending of this year 2019.
Especially i have analyzed every bounty IEO price team and their development planning so i hope everyone will check again before joining this bounty.

The project's site looks cool though. You can feel being a traveler by just looking at the pictures taken from all over the world. We will see how their IEO on Livecoin will fare in the next days.

I find Emirex to be a legit project with good potential in the market now and in the future, this is rewarding for bounty hunters because they are already listed in exchanges, this is probably the first Islamic based on my knowledge, what Adab failed to achieve Emirex has accomplished it in just a short period of time, there are so many participants in this bounty campaign, they should have limited it, so bounty hunters will have a good allocation of rewards.

i am late to do bounty in 2019. but with this thread maybe i will buy some bounties token after they are launching in the market ussually after launch in the market token will dump then back to pump again. so maybe i will take advantage from this to take my profit. thankyou OP

It is hard to tell what will be the outcome of this project when they are fully trading in an exchange and also stayed for some time in the crypto market, i.e if they will survive the heat ;)
but for now i think emirex have a better chance to be considered as good bounty than the rest mainly because it is already trading, but each one of us have different opinion on this.