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I know there's a list of active DT members of the forum but would it be nice if DT members can have a special badge during the duration of their status as active DT.

Like the badge on the art contest that has given to those who won this recent event.

"The badge will be remove/add for those will be added and excluded on the DT positions"

Is this possible @Theymos? Or would DT members would like to be recognize as that. Cause Im only familiar with some active DT kike LoyceV, Suchmoon, TMAN, and etc unless I look on the list.

I think it is a really good idea, and take it all the way down to DT4+ with different colors to give more incentives to be positive for Bitcointalk..

You can get them from third-party data. For example:
- Loyce club: Updated December 7: DT1-election: Rank up pipeline (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107427.0)
- BPIP: DT1 (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=dtstrength); DT2 (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=dtstrength) (but I don't know how regularly those lists will be updated and the BPIP site has still been in-progress of improvements).
Additionally, theymos said he does not want to create a type of rainbow hierarchical badges in the forum: Ranks, Staff positions, Artist, Reporters, and so forth.

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There are complaints on over-expansions of DT2 with hundreds of DT2 members so what will we see if there will be DT4 members? Thousands of DT4 members? I knew you are kidding.  :)

Touche

Nah, I like the lower DT a lot and wish they were more involved.. up-and-comers

So if that's the case then case close. But the idea is not bad for me, as giving recognition those active DT members. I know some of them dont want the badge but it's a symbol of respect for a certain hierarchy in such forum.

That's the exact sentiment that illustrates why it shouldn't happen.  DT members are human, and subject to making mistakes, or being flat-out wrong.  The voting system is decentralized, and can make just about anyone a member of DT at some level.  Elevating them as "respected" or a part of "hierarchy" just because of their DT status is likely to cause some to abuse their position.

Don't rely on the forum's default trust to appraise someone's trustworthiness.  Get to know the ones who's judgement you value, and include them into your trust settings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg49423579#msg49423579).

Would it affect their interaction with others if they had a badge displaying their position?
I do not think a hierarchy is necessary in the forum, especially for positions that are not moderated by the forum such as Default Trust and merit sources. We are bound to figure out which they are and there are already lists available for both, but I don't think it has to be represented besides the posts they make on the forum.

You can get a list of all DT1 and DT2 members from the forum too, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt, or from my weekly overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg53284485#msg53284485) (I highlight the DT-members who are banned and/or have negative feedback).

Have you seen who are on there? I think the list is even too long now to be able to see Trust on Depth 3 or 4 without a timeout, but my Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124527.0) gives very long lists of users who I don't recognize at all.

Agreed! However, I would like it if there would be something that makes it obvious to the user himself that he's on DT.
Right above my avatar, it shows my Posttcount (only for myself). I'd like to show "DT1" or "DT2" there for anyone who's on it (only to be seen by himself). I've seen too many people who had no idea they're on DT, and I still see too many people who should read my Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0) (although it's completely subjective, I consider 10 translations as evidence that it's widely supported).

I think it would be information overload.  People would be less likely to notice.

Same thing is currently happening in US hospitals.  A high majority of equipment alarms (over 85%) do not require any intervention, but cause anxiety to the patient nonetheless.
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/tech/i-feel-like-i-m-jail-hospital-alarms-torment-patients

But if you can convince someone to build that extension, it would be better featured and updated more frequently than Theymos modifying the forum.


Improvements should be done this month.  I'm the holdup.  :(

What for? I would say it's better if the user discovers on their own whose Trust ratings and flags he can trust.

Reading this, I realize it can probably be used to notice users who shouldn't be on DT, but I don't think that's what OP had in mind.

I am agree with that idea, but most likely theymos will not implement that badge. Because spam reporters badge not yet implemented so there is low chances to add a badge for DT members. I think ar least it would be implemented for DT1 members since they are added manually by admin so it would be quite easy method. Also it would help all forum users to meet with trust system since I believe most of newbies are not aware about trust network and how it is work. Let's wait for admin response although I have doubts he will do.

Or even no implement badge, but add something on profile page also would appropriate.

Excluded flags would be great too..
Like the color of the DT rank you should be but slashed/grayed out..

While it is not a bad idea to make that DT status more visible/accessible, if it is made through badges or something so desirable, you can bet that people would abuse the system even more, as many would want to have that badge, and it would bring more harm than good.



+1

That is something that i would like to see. I am pretty sure that there are plenty of people that have no idea that they are on DT lists, especially those on DT2.  I also had no idea that i am on DT2 until one other more experienced  member told me.

I think eddie13 was sarcastic with that post.

I am on the same page here. If someone does not know how the DT system works and does not know about his DT status then they really do not deserve to be in the DT list.

Bottom line: I really do not think we need such icon/image/or any indicator next to us to see by others users or for us that some of us are in the DT system.

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Sorry about the off topic but here is something that I noticed. Some users will add you in their list and then they will PM you saying something like, I have added you to my TrustList .... .... ....
It's like they are asking indirectly to give them the favor (may be the wrong word) back. And I see this works very well too unfortunately.

How many of you have experienced this?

I think this is a rare thing to happen, just like I barely get any PMs asking for Merit.

I have seen twice if I can recall correctly and I did not like it however I was also hesitating as well because those PMs are just like other good PMs you receive contains good words with the hidden intention behind it :-D

About the PMs asking for merit, countless times LOL

Agreed but it would be better to see some badges in my opinion as DT member, not of course to isolate them towards anything or annoyed them with their position. Well some think they will abuse their position but as what theymos said regarding DT position, if some made some stupid things other DT can always act on it. Just a recognition for forum member to identify them easier. Well for lazy people this is good idea.  ;D. I can search it bt of course it will be easier if we have this.


Nope, as I recall "its for DT member recognition or appreciation" I dont mean any confusion or information overload on their profile.

Yes, who can whip up some nice little animated poop gifs for them? don't want them stinking up the place without giving fair warning to honest members as to who they are? They should be clearly recognized at all times as fair warning.

Poop badges who can get some made?

I mean most do have badges already big CHIPMIXER badges. You see chipmixer you see default trust. That is why people want in on default trust. It is default chipmixer too.

I don't get PMs "begging" for merits, but I do get PMs from members asking me to review their posts, which I encourage.  That's a fair way to do it IMO and I've even made the offer in a few threads that I'd be more than happy to get PMs from people requesting me to review their post history.

Badges for DT members?  I'm not crazy about the idea, and it might be problematic given that DT members get rotated in and out of the list and some drop out for other reasons.  It might get confusing to members who haven't been here a while who might wonder what's with the magical disappearing DT badges.

Being on DT is recognition enough IMO, and it doesn't require an ego badge on a member's profile.  I also happen to think badges aren't a great idea in general, though there might be certain exceptions to that.  There have been quite a few that have been suggested and initially I supported the concept but now I'm thinking it would just clutter everything up.

Another +1 from me for no badges please, for the same reason I didn't want a big event celebrating merit sources. Stop deifying or elevating other users just because of their rank/merit/trust status. Respect people who have earned your respect rather than those you are told to respect.

I'm not entirely sure why you would be wanting to seek out individual DT1 members anyway? If you are using default trust, then you will see their ratings where relevant. If you have issues with someone who is on DT, then grievances are generally best aired in the open in a public thread. If you want to appeal to DT users to remove someone they are including, then you will already have looked at their inclusions either using the forum's trust viewer or Loyce's. It seems this might just encourage the begging PMs which have been discussed above.

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Amazing deduction. That'll be why all 124 eligible DT1 members are part of ChipMixer even though ChipMixer only has 57 current paricipants, and it will also explain why all 57 only 12 current ChipMixer users are currently on DT1. Don't let facts get in the way of your nonsense though. Why change the habit of a lifetime?

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LOL okay fool there is no correlation between DT and being on chipmixer... OH LOOK you are on DT and a chipmixer spammer

How many of the 57 participants are on DT1 or DT2???  

Let's take this in the context of the entire forum.

The is a CLEAR correlation between getting on DT  and being on chipmixer. Get it now DT/CHIPMIXER too.

You spot chipmixer you can pretty much spot Default trust member.. certainly in meta board. That can be seen as their badge.

Give this girl her dirty turd badge she wants some recognition for not achieving anything here ever. haha

Give oioeeioe and robovac their badges ffs anything to shut them up about merits and their continual boasting the worthless garbage.

+1 against using badges

I don't think there's any need for badges for members on the DT lists. Information about DT-1 and DT-2 members is publicly available and anyone can view it in real time.