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Swedish teen who started by protesting in from of the Swedish parliament for action against climate change now is the major attraction for media around the world. Time like every year selects one of the most influencing person in the year as Time's person of the year.

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Kind of ironic. 30% of votes ain't little..

https://time.com/5747261/person-of-the-year-2019-reader-poll-results/

.... Times is just trying to sell more magazines, they don't really care about who the best person in the world was for 2019. Just trying to stir up some controversy and bring people to their site and to buy their magazines.

The HK protesters should've won this one. They're the people who are truly fighting against an oppressive government that doesn't care about them. People are literally being shot by police, while protesting, and the news barely covers it.

Shows what side the media, the big corporations, and the politicians are truly on (even Trump)

Don't see the problem here. A kid who managed to reach UN, talked to all leaders in the world and became the face of the scientific consensus on climate change doesn't deserve to be person of the year?

I mean, she's at the age well all of you (and myself) were mainly interested in porn and that's all.

At 16 my biggest achievement would probably be my first sex ever. Her achievement is to have travelled the whole world to uphold what she believes (and the vast majority of people who got an education) is the most important political question of the century.

Who am I to disagree?

HK is nothing. Litterally nothing. Just a poor population fighting its government. We get that every year. Nothing new.
US is trying to make it political against China but that's not even the first revendication for HK protesters. There first revendication is on rents and life cost. It's just that the West likes to make them fighters for freedom, which they are not.

Should have been the HK protesters, JMHO

I'm not saying what she did isn't great. It is, she's fighting for the climate. Great.

But there are people in Hong Kong who have been protesting since -- June? -- against China and have been standing their ground. The Chinese government has had to admit that they were shooting live ammunition at the protests -- THEY'RE SHOOTING LIVE AMMUNITION AT THE PROTESTORS -- I HOPE SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT  THAT MEANS.

In the US we barely get 50 percent of people out to vote (Averaging presidential and non pres years) but in Hong Kong they currently have about 30 percent of the population protesting.

I think Greta winning person of the year is a major blow to the credibility of this award.

Greta is clearly being taken advantage of by someone on the left trying to push an agenda that gives the left more political power and more control over citizens' lives. This is true even if she is getting rich in the process.

Further, her only qualifications are that she 'believes' in a certain viewpoint, and would not have been able to speak in front of Congress, nor the UN if not for her specific stances.

China is, by far, the industrialized country that is doing the most harm to the environment on a per capita basis (and they have the largest population), yet Greta (nor any other environmental "activists") is not calling to put pressure on China to reduce its emissions.

They are much more qualified for person of the year.  +1

Another misguided kid who has been manipulated by the politically correct educational system. She is a prime example of why the voting age should be increased and not lowered.

Given that the brain doesn't finish (significant) developments until your 20s, this is an agreeable opinion.

I think putting Hong Kong protestors on the cover would do the most good. (they need all the support they can get, plus a great way to shame China).

But they decide based on who's had the most influence.

Hong Kong is just something that the world is kind of just watching with interest.

Trump or Putin probably deserve the cover most imo.  Would be boring if they just picked world leaders every year though.

This award had some credibility to start with?

Afterall, this is not award for "best person" or whatever, this is simply about those that had influenced world  the most. That's why Hitler, Stalin (won it 2 times), Khomeini, Chiang Kai-shek won that . Even though Times stopped with that practice of choosing obvious bad guys , after fiasco and criticism for choosing Khomeini.

I agree that what people in HK are doing is admirable, and that Greta Thurnberg is obviously manipulated, but she got shit load of  (undeserved) attention.

I mean if we're talking about influence or the person who's been in the news the most : Trump.

But yes, I think the HK protestors truly do need a win like this. People may not fully understand it, but being on the cover of something like the Times brings people to research a topic that they may not know much about. HK needs that. Most people don't even know whats going on there. As world leaders, politicans, news, corporations, and so on ignore it.

Very stupid!
Bad move from Time!
Don't we expect the person of the year to be some kind of an innovator, or at least to do or say new things?

Everything that Greta girl says, environmentalists all over the world have been saying if for years... Nothing new.
What I've yet to understand, though, is why are there people believing her than respected scientists.

Well the prestige of this award has certainly gone down recently but hey, the kid did get a lot of attention and that fierce speech a couple of months ago did place her on the spotlight, along with what seems to be her advocacy. So i don't have anything against her being named Person of the Year, though i also don't consider this award something to look up to anymore.

Well done. I'm not sure if it's good or bad. I have doubts about Greta... A lot of doubts. But she talks about important issues, so who cares

she is from a country where her supposed 'school strike' was not a strike at all. at that age she can voluntarily not go school and it was the summer, and when she later went school she always got permission not to attend... (not much of a strike then huh)

yet she demands other kids to do actual strikes in actual schools that dont have this leeway

id have probably preffered a african/indian kid who's family were struggling farmers due to desertification become the youth spokesmen and do actual campaigns of getting countries to agree to hard numbers of actual action and not the flimsy
'do something'

greta lives in a county with a cool climate a healthy land growth environment. clean air. and her family life shows she has never experienced real struggles.

if her message is just to obide by the paris agreement then many countries dont have to do anything extra. infact many countries already for decades had town/city plans that certain amount of area's had to have X green area (parks and recreation) and X trees and could easily show they planted them X tree's and class that as their contribution.
in the UK for instance. many towns that used to be called 'market towns' are being rebranded 'green towns' .. no real big changes done but just a branding decision of councils
there may be more tree's panted but at the same time old woodland has been made into housing estates so it is not any more tree numbers than before just the tree's are scattered along roadsides at calculated distances to make it appear more spread

same goes with power plants. with many being outdated and crumbing anyway by just standard renovation practice and demand concerns that had nothing to do with environmental agenda. they could then class it as being an environmental agenda that triggered their renovation/upgrades just to tick a box
EG underground stocks of coal are depleted so they move to fracked gas to stay in business, without it being an environmental climate change decision, the power company can pretend later it was purely climate driven decision and(just happens to) have a positive climate change impact to get their new power plant built for them for free using government environment, technology innovation and R&D grants

america school meal budgets get cut and the FDA approved suppliers churn out crap frozen meals at ever increasing prices so schools are forced into making 'food growth' part of their curriculum where students grow lettuce tomato's and stuff on school property that subsidises the school meals. this then later translates to schools being declared green schools and thats used politically as reducing food waste, carbon footprint of food delivery and other stuff to show as a ticked box. even when al the 'farming' would still e done without any paris agreement involvement. but now they just mark it off as if they doing it to then not have to do extra

same goes for real estate. buy up cheap flood risk land. threaten their investment is at risk to climate change. then get grants to build flood resistant properties. and tick a box about securing a legacy of flood resistance towns all for cheap real estate

to me greta's message is just a parody of the lyrics to
'say something' im giving up on you, featuring christina aguilera. just changing 'say' to 'do'

maybe the next youth environment ambassador has actual experience of struggles due to environmental change, and actually tries to set numbers countries have to hit, have laws changed where in 10 years coal and gas is illegal. thus forcing energy companies to change plans.
then let the scientists work on other remedies like the water cycle. just to keep scientists busy instead of just doing tours with reports that are now outdated

Wtf? You're completely out of your mind xD

HK protests are not against China they're against life conditions in HK at the moment. People are getting more and more poor it's more or less the same protests than in Europe right now.
And China never shot live munition on HK protests for the very simple reason China hasn't done anything there yet, it's one HK police officer who panicked and shot live munition.

What's happening in HK is just a population getting tired of the inequalities and cost of life that's all. And their government suppressing them.

haven't you seen that in all the Western world governments are using more and more force against their own people? If HK protestors should be "person of the year" as you say then what about the Europeans fighting every week? What about Chile?

It's just that USA put the spotlight on HK to blame China. Nothing more.

Time magazine even featured Maria Ressa who had been harassing Duterte administration since election days, Time Magazine had lost it all and turned it all for being paid tabloid. Often times the people they feature are the ones managed by oligarchs who has the ulterior motives. You just can't trust any media today. But Congrats to Greta.


HK protesters are the worse. You are misinformed. For all we know, its funded by bigger parties wanting China's economy to slip.

So... she's been smoking some of that really good stuff?

Hong kong protests are not a person, they are a political movement.  Greta is a person.  Also, they don't use political biases when choosing the person of the year.  As stated in this thread, people want to promote HK protesters "to shame china" and not because they have done something so great. 

Their cause is to not be held accountable by the Chinese government.  The whole protest started because they didn't want extradition from Hong Kong to China to be possible.  Meanwhile, most people in the world can be extridited from their local authority by their federal authority. 

Imagine if people in Portland didn't have to pay taxes and wanted to be exempt from all federal laws.

There is no "they". There is just one individual that chooses, however he likes, the "person of the year."

My thoughts about her is so mixed. I think that most of us agree that climate change is important issue. But from what perspective she is talking about it and who she is targetting with all these dramatical "how dare you?" I'm not sure... I have nothing against Greta, but all this around her is made by news media and now she got award for that. I'm not sure that she can be placed in same place with all historical winners of this award.

Time Person of the Year doesn't actually mean 'person'.  It just means the thing the had the most influence. 

Last year it was 5 journalists.
2018 it was 5 women.
'The Computer', 'You', 'American Women' all won also.

Hong Kongs local authority is Hong Kong, not China.  The Chinese government does not have the right to hold them accountable.


Not the same.

Hong Kong was a British territory for 150 years until 1997 that ran as an independent Democracy with their own laws, constitution, elections etc

In 1997 The UK handed them over to China after negotiating the 'One Country Two Systems' agreement that would be in effect until at least 2047: "The two SARs of Hong Kong and Macau are responsible for their domestic affairs including, but not limited to, the judiciary and courts of last resort, immigration and customs, public finance, currencies and extradition"

I'm not really going to entertain the authority of colonial negotiations but what is the significance of "one country" part of one country, two systems if the people in HK only enjoy the privileges of being part of China without any of the responsibilities?

All for it

This is a hypersensitive child who almost always looks stressed, unhappy and triggered in social situations...

Her psychological vulnerabilities are being abused to present the false narrative that they are originating from the supposed "inactivity" of the public regarding a very broad and flawed interpretation of climate change...

Such a sinister dirty tactic to push political agendas guarantees that the underlying motives cannot be good. The failing, deranged, "fake news" time magazine is also certainly receiving funding from the political manipulators and the special interest groups they serve; otherwise it would have gone out of business a long time ago...

When I saw a vid about this, I rolled my eyes harder than the Evil Queen in Disneyland and said "Terrible". Her handlers really trying hard to prop her up don't they? Seems they don't even check the internet to see how people ridicule her.

I don't see TIME's subscription growing just coz of this. I've stopped reading it years ago.

Heard her speech recently which was about us battling with physics?  Partly true but yes this kid had been used by political parties. You can always tell when there is the lack of conviction to how she says something. She should just be playing online games, the people behind all these are just using her and steals her youth. Their own government won't even stop polluting their air.

^^^ I agree. Popularity for the moment. Time is losing subscribers anyway. So, they might as well back something like Greta.

Getting rid of Time does present a problem. When they are gone, we'll have to keep our eyes open to see where they will pop up next. Now at least, we know one of the places they are lurking... Time.

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Greta is an epitomy of youth power who managed to reach the corners of the world and also shake the big people of the world. At such age she managed to reach the UN , talk to various leaders and make Trump envy her a little. She has her way with people with her speeches and is also powerful while stating how important it is to save climate for the future generation. I support the magazine's decision of making her the person of the year 2019.

She's someone's puppet, most likely his fathers who supports her leaving school and often speaks out on her behalf in the media. It's not the first time old people try to realize their unfulfilled ambitions through their kids. The same sentence that will sound average when spoken by an adult will have a much greater impact repeated by a child. Old folks will say "she's so young and so experienced already, so inspired.
I don't like what she's doing and I believe she's simply selling herself. An image is worth millions these days and many people and companies will pay a lot of money to have her dance to their music. If an instagram account can make you $10k, she must be making millions.

the problem is that this climate change trash is mainly a third world problem europe is turning towards CO2 efficient energy systems, besides no one knows weather its really a human made issue, because plants in sea and on surface benefit form more CO2 in the atmosphere and incorporate it. so using fossil fuels boosts plantlife.

She's paid for it. Who would believe a young girl without influence will actually caught the attention will make it up there without someone behind her? Of course she is a puppet.  Painting her as if she is one of the greatest crusader when the world is all twisted, we don't even know yet whether the earth is actually round lol Europe has more games to play while the 3rd world countries are struggling to feed the lives of their people, do they want the 3rd countries to stop feeding their kids?

There were possible more candidates for times magazine but for me personally Greta made much impact all across the world at such young age with such important topic of climate change and global warming. Greta is indeed epitome of youth power and was able to reach UN , make an impact at all levels , reach television of each corner and also get in head of Trump. Also kudos to her for mocking Trump through twitter , I like it how she always replies that man with her twitter handle bio.

'Bout time we got some competition in there.


Meat Loaf DARES To Challenge Greta Thunberg And The Man Made Climate Change HOAX!!! (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/274510-2020-01-07-meat-loaf-dares-to-challenge-greta-thunberg-and-the-man.htm)




Meat Loaf DARES To Challenge Greta Thunberg And The Man Made Climate Change HOAX!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUelYlJlwr8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUelYlJlwr8)


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what a fucking year  :-\

If global warming was all that bad, she'd be in her bikini.


https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/POY.main_.jpg


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Another candidates for the same honor could be the hong kong people fighting the war at their side to protect their rights. Greta Thurnberg is not a bad choice either considering her age and contrasting contribution she did for the society and future generation. She raised an important topic of climate change often ignored , and led it to the UNs and also made the orange man envy her.

If you Google "Greta Thunberg at the beach" or "Greta Thunberg in a bikini"...

... and look at the pictures...

... you will always see Greta wearing way too much clothing for global warming...

... except indoors where there is some heat.

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Climate change jumped the shark with Greta.

But it wasn't even her you were reading.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youve-scripted-my-childhood-facebook-glitch-reveals-greta-thunburgs-father-posting

Seeing this post I wonder where has she vanished now. I guess she was a deserving candidate to be nominated by times magazine as person of the year. She was very viral and effective with her speeches, especially "How dare you!". At a very young age , she was able to reach to UN and brought attention to very important topic of climate change. I did notice a shift in attitude of nations , organizations and even individual and they saw sustainability and recycling as important and duty.

Someone cut her money off?

Leonardo DiCaprio has been campaigning and has brought awareness to Climate Change for a very long time before this girl came out and started criticizing leaders about them doing nothing with regards to Climate Change. Apart from her protests I didn't see her do anything to help like planting trees which is proven to reduce carbon emissions.

Since a 16 year old worked so well, what do you say we try a 12 year old scolding the UN next? Or we could go straight to the shrieking babies?

Her age doesnt really matter if she manages to draw attention to the issue, but from looking at her "speeches" I get a strong feeling that she's just a puppet, a vessel and it's not gonna play out well for her future mental stability. Her becoming the time's person of the year is also questionable to me, she haven't done anything exept talking and gathering some attention both positive and negative. There're much more people that deserve this title by actually putting their work and getting some perceptible results

Agreed, there were more deserving people for the time's person of the year. As said Greta hasn't contributed anything big to the climate change happening around the globe. If I'm not wrong what she spoke too isn't her own words. End of the day everything is business, and now providing such an award too is a kind of marketing for times magazine.

Unfortunately it does. It is probable that her opinions are based on those of her teachers at school, The education and indoctrination of children has been used by the Supra-national elite to further their interests, and those don't coincide with the environment or the bulk of the population. She suffers from Aspergers, and it would be more useful to discover which pharmaceuticals damaged her for life.

The fact that at this young age, she is so extremely outspoken, shows that she has a narcissistic personality disorder of some sort. She will probably go on to be a great figure in the world... most important and outspoken world figures are narcissistic in some way. She has an exaggerated opinion of herself, and it will be only luck or the general "niceness" of other people that keeps her from being assassinated in the future.

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Maxine Waters Pranked By Greta Thunberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5DpdWE9oKc

I have to admit that Greta has produced at least one interesting idea, which might be converted into law and applied.

That climate crusaders be required to travel via ship.

Not everyone, mind you, just the Saviors of the World.

Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old Swedish girl who in just twelve months has been transformed by good people and picks, at the same time, into one of the most impactful figures on the world scene, is today a huge fraud. The fault is not even directly from Greta, poor thing - she probably doesn’t even know what she’s doing, or knows very little. The authors of the cheat are the promoters of interests, business and political-ideological causes that take direct or indirect material advantage from the preaching of the celebrity girl who have made - and that a year ago dragged from one side of the world to the other in a crusade of the type “you have to stop everything to save the planet

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/687-0122095516-frightened-child.jpg
“I don’t want to die!”


7-year-old children left psychologically terrorized after hearing Greta Thunberg speech… (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/275414-2020-01-22-7-year-old-children-left-psychologically-terrorized-after-hearing-greta.htm)




Climate change sensationalism goes beyond brainwashing; pushed on young children, it is psychological terrorism!


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Teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg nominated for Nobel Peace Prize (https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/teenage-climate-activist-greta-thunberg-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-n1128751)

COPENHAEN, Denmark — Two lawmakers in Sweden have nominated Swedish teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize.

I wasn't aware they gave out Nobel Peace Prizes for producing left wing propaganda. This must be a new category.

Al Gore won in 2007.

So I guess producing left wing propaganda isn’t a new Nobel peace prize category.   

But he couldn't prove it to the satisfaction of the Supreme Court.     8)

2020 peace prize awarded for..... christina aguilera remix 'do something or ill scowl at you' (say something im giving up on you)

No way that beats You Need to Calm Down (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkk9gvTmCXY)

^^^ Jabut, who mows the lawn at the trailer park?     8)

I wonder why Thunberg is still so popular around the world.
She is still a girl that was said to tell all those things that are needed in order to save the environment. I am not sure if she understands all those things that she says or she just says them because she is told to do so.

I think is popular because she say the things that happen on the world and not hide between words like others people does.

Greta says exactly those things teens like her want to listen to. She is still popular because "concerning about the environment" is a new trend. Put eco-friendly labels on your good and people will buy them. This is how tatty H&M became sustainable brand.

she is doing a good work and people around the world are supporting her , there is a lot of things to be done to protect environment and global temperature raise is one of them , we all want to leave in good environment

Seems that the more we do, the worse it gets.     8)