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Title: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: mrquackquack on January 01, 2020, 01:11:12 PM
We all seemingly have some sort of mixed emotions when it comes to the dreaded KYC. Picture the painting "The Scream" or some ghastly Emoji and none the less this maybe a somewhat accurate account of to how some people may feel about KYC. Some people might think it's a complete invasion of privacy and completely ruins the whole thought of what crypto is all about, when some others may think it's a step in the right direction to hopefully bring transparency to the crypto world and thus making it a more viable option for mass adoption. What are some of your thoughts and opinions on the matter? As usual any thought or comments are more than welcome. Thanks.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Ucy on January 01, 2020, 01:22:03 PM
If you accept that today, what is the guarantee that you will reject being chipped in your body or brain? 
In The Future: "allow us to monitor you brain or get chipped else you won't be allowed to be part of our society"... Would you accept that?

There are safer ways to go about knowing your costumers without exposing billions of people to risk. Decentralized approach is probably the safest.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: pushups44 on January 01, 2020, 01:22:21 PM
We all seemingly have some sort of mixed emotions when it comes to the dreaded KYC. Picture the painting "The Scream" or some ghastly Emoji and none the less this maybe a somewhat accurate account of to how some people may feel about KYC. Some people might think it's a complete invasion of privacy and completely ruins the whole thought of what crypto is all about, when some others may think it's a step in the right direction to hopefully bring transparency to the crypto world and thus making it a more viable option for mass adoption. What are some of your thoughts and opinions on the matter? As usual any thought or comments are more than welcome. Thanks.

KYC is fine for traditional financial institutions that have a track-record, are beholden to laws, and can be trusted somewhat. Where it gets murky is with the fly-by-night operations asking for very private details of members in order to issue bounty rewards. In my view, that's unacceptable. There is always a trade-off with KYC. There is always a risk of private information being misused.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Negotiation on January 01, 2020, 01:51:11 PM
Everything has its pros and cons, as is the case with KYC Through KYC we can be sure that it will be good and on the other hand through KYC they take our personal information to scam. That's why it's best not to use our KYC There are many sides to KYC except it is better to use ligula.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: JoJoNssien01 on January 01, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Personally I don't like KYC I see it as a stress but to be sure of less spams and cheats the KYC is necessary


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: BADecker on January 01, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
Knowing your customer is a good thing. After all, your potential customer might be a government spy, trying to entrap you.

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Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Artemis3 on January 01, 2020, 09:08:51 PM
We all seemingly have some sort of mixed emotions when it comes to the dreaded KYC. Picture the painting "The Scream" or some ghastly Emoji and none the less this maybe a somewhat accurate account of to how some people may feel about KYC. Some people might think it's a complete invasion of privacy and completely ruins the whole thought of what crypto is all about, when some others may think it's a step in the right direction to hopefully bring transparency to the crypto world and thus making it a more viable option for mass adoption. What are some of your thoughts and opinions on the matter? As usual any thought or comments are more than welcome. Thanks.

Its bad, because this information will make its way into the dark web, and everyone will suffer the consequences. Before a "hack" would get your nickname and password, but now they'll get your documents.

In the name of "control" the State, as usual, makes things worse for everyone.

The only answer is: Bad Thing.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: sweetbet on January 02, 2020, 12:46:31 AM
How will KYC work when dealing with persons using decentralized exchanges?


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: franky1 on January 02, 2020, 04:23:37 AM
we can all understand the morals of KYC as it can prevent a business getting into trouble by accidentally servicing an illicit act of a customer it doesnt know.

but i feel that consumer protections should have a KYB whereby businesses have to be open and transparent to.
that way its a two way street.

mostly so customers know what the business is doing with the customers data and the customer can act accordingly if the business is not playing by the rules

however there should still be an option where people are not forced into one choice. EG the poor forced to have bank accounts due to laws making 'paper cash' obsolete. people should have choices and an exit of one service and able to choose other options that offer other benefits


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: albon on January 02, 2020, 03:39:44 PM
I think the "know your customer" feature is both good and bad, Good because it achieves transparency and we were able to know the scammers, and bad because it eliminated the decentralization characteristic of cryptocurrencies, and also its procedures are somewhat complicated.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: codegnome on January 02, 2020, 05:17:45 PM
KYC is not a bad thing. Banks doing this for many years. AFAIK there are three important factors for dong this.
1:Establish the clientís identity
2: Understanding your clientís nature
3:Access money laundering risk attached with the potential customer for purpose of monitoring the customerís activities


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: amonymous on January 03, 2020, 06:46:43 AM
I think (know your customer) good think every banks Portals and in Cryptocurrency market In fact it allows you to verify simple information so that it can be easily solved in the future if any problem, but each bank gives it more importance. Although in the crypto market it helps a lot to identify the scammer peoples.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: boyptc on January 03, 2020, 09:08:01 AM
It has advantage and disadvantage.

An advantage for those who want to expand the adoption for crypto because it's a way to gain trust of the gov't and the exchanges are required by them to comply for it so they also don't have a choice but to implement it. The disadvantage, we just can't be sure if these issuers are taking care of our identities.



Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: peter0425 on January 03, 2020, 10:53:33 AM
if this KYC thing dont get abuse?for sure this will help both parties from the costumer to the company,the problem is people with bad intention take this as advantage to other people and this is why i hate this implementations.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Negotiation on January 03, 2020, 12:34:44 PM
Personally I don't like KYC I see it as a stress but to be sure of less spams and cheats the KYC is necessary

I agree with you I also don't like KYC but there are times that KYC has to do it for their own protection Because everything has good and bad aspects as does KYC Also it often reduces the risk of money.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: mamedesign on January 04, 2020, 06:57:02 PM
KYC is actually good and really helps our security and comfort in a platform. But unfortunately there are things that sometimes make things difficult here, not all KYCs are easy and easy to accept, that's all the problem for me.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: bobitza on January 04, 2020, 08:58:06 PM
Of course knowing your customers is a good thing. It is essential in business and commerce. In the field of cryptocurrencies, too. You should know about KYC. KYC (Know Your Customer) is a process of verifying the identity of members to help the system comply with anti-money laundering (AML) laws and protect the system from illegal acts. The KYC confirmation will help increase the withdrawal limit for coins / tokens in 24 hours.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: old fart on January 06, 2020, 03:12:41 PM
In my opinion, going with the fact that crypto is built for decentralization, privacy and trust-less. KYC goes against these properties of blockchain, but if the reason is to curb criminal acts, then it is welcomed.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: russel123456 on January 06, 2020, 07:23:25 PM
It's a good thing.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Slow death on January 06, 2020, 08:45:34 PM
We need to know who our data will be with. Let's take an example of the crypto world:

Exchanges have no license, are anonymous, do not have headquarters of the company, the owners of the exchanges are also anonymous... they are anonymous but ask their customers to deliver documents to do KYC? it makes no sense in my opinion


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: John999 on January 30, 2020, 02:47:15 PM
When a company gets overzealous and overreaching in their KYC, make no mistakes. It's either to collect very private (hence very valuable) datas about yourself that can be later resold to god knows who, or they want to get rid of you for whatever reasons.

So in both cases don't bother to answer and move to the next company.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: peter0425 on January 30, 2020, 02:55:02 PM
When a company gets overzealous and overreaching in their KYC, make no mistakes. It's either to collect very private (hence very valuable) datas about yourself that can be later resold to god knows who, or they want to get rid of you for whatever reasons.

So in both cases don't bother to answer and move to the next company.

well for obvious reason we have a knowledge about that,selling our data's to third party after gathering from those scammer ICO campaigns back then,when most are not seeking for kyc but after the bounty they will require all of a sudden.

i think what is better to do is just let providing KYC if the transaction is very important and you have no other option but to provide KYC.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Subbir on January 30, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
I think both are good and bad for KYC customers. within the case of KYC work, on the one hand, our people aren't ready to take past information easily but on the opposite hand KYC scams are more prevalent. I also do not like KYC myself because it doesn't always require KYC when it involves protection.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: mrquackquack on January 30, 2020, 03:36:09 PM
Well wasn't crypto one of its main purposes for being engineered was to combat centralization and maximize privacy? It seems like the exchanges are either selling out or being pressured by governments.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: RapidsNetwork on January 30, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
Great question and topic.
Personally I think that kyc will not go away. And all exchanges will require it, those that dont will probably end up quitting by their own choice or by the government they choose to be in.
The US will probably make all exchanges require KYC when and where it can.
I mean binance doesnt server usa members unless they use a VPN to hide themselves, same as bittrex.
There are options like binance.us and bittrex us. But they dont see near the volume as the big players.
I personally dont mind the KYC. I know alot of people do and hate it.
I guess it can go both ways, but for me I do KYC.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: John999 on January 30, 2020, 05:32:54 PM
Well wasn't crypto one of its main purposes for being engineered was to combat centralization and maximize privacy? It seems like the exchanges are either selling out or being pressured by governments.

Both are very likely. I also believe that some established crypto companies are overdoing it, hoping high regulations in the space will keep new competition from entering the game and keep their market share. The irony is that it will cause their demise instead.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: TIDOVEE on January 30, 2020, 05:51:34 PM
I also initially use to have issues with that KYC but at a time I did not worry myself about it, since we have many projects that do not require KYC. KYC is expected to make a proof of genuinety of participant but in the process,it has made registration more difficult for many and yet many do not even receive their reward after all the stress. I have never registered any KYC project.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Naida_BR on January 31, 2020, 08:53:29 AM
It is good and bad at the same time.
I believe that we need KYC until we find more decentralized ways of validating a user identity and prove that he doesn't have multi accounts. I don't like KYC but I think that it is necessary to have such mechanisms right now in order to tackle scams.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: akram143 on February 01, 2020, 07:16:39 AM
We all seemingly have some sort of mixed emotions when it comes to the dreaded KYC. Picture the painting "The Scream" or some ghastly Emoji and none the less this maybe a somewhat accurate account of to how some people may feel about KYC. Some people might think it's a complete invasion of privacy and completely ruins the whole thought of what crypto is all about, when some others may think it's a step in the right direction to hopefully bring transparency to the crypto world and thus making it a more viable option for mass adoption. What are some of your thoughts and opinions on the matter? As usual any thought or comments are more than welcome. Thanks.
People are afraid of their ID getting misused for illegal activities because the crypto sites asking all the sensitive information might be created only in recent time in the name of new project.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Tash on February 01, 2020, 10:11:41 AM
Before forwarding all kinds of personal information do a KYC,  Know your Company.
Who will have access to your private information, will it be sold, anytime a new person gets access get informed about it and your approval......
Handing over your data to a random stranger on the internet is silly.


Title: Re: Know Your Customer (KYC) A Good thing or Bad Thing?
Post by: Negotiation on February 01, 2020, 10:52:21 AM
Before forwarding all kinds of personal information do a KYC,  Know your Company.
Who will have access to your private information, will it be sold, anytime a new person gets access get informed about it and your approval......
Handing over your data to a random stranger on the internet is silly.


I agree with you it's not okay to give our personal information to anyone but I think KYC does have Google Authentication. It is unlikely that your personal information will be hacked. That could be the KYC risk.