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As everyone knows that yobit have stopped the publicity of cryptotalk signature , so does this mean that they are no longer interested in that site or they have achieved what they wanted through https://cryptotalk.org/ ?

Is the pay per post campaign still running on their site and what could be their long terms plans ?

I guess they either already have enough users in their forum or the result from opening signature campaign in this forum is no longer significant so that's why they stopped it.

AFAIK, they still opening the campaign there and still paying their posters.

They recently changed up their signature which means they are already advertising their own forum.I haven't visited though if their site/forum do have already some traffic or not.

As im aware to their competition which do give out big interest on most people because of big prizes but after that they leave out.This forum is been flooded by spam and I don't see that it would able to succeed or able to compete with bitcointalk itself.Therefore, they do rather focus their marketing into their own site.

Well, who knows, the site is now even inaccessible and has error 504 (Gateway time-out) — also https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/cryptotalk.org

That forum will only survive if they still continue to offer their pay per post, soon as they stop that, users their will slowly leaving.

It can't be accessed in my browser, it must be down. The 1k satoshi is actually working for the forum but the forum software looks a lot like crunching server resources, its better to just use the SMF that doesn't use images on signatures which their users are starting to upload some.

Since BTC is rising and Yobit seem to be richer when it comes to promotion, the campaign will probably continue till it gets organic traffic.

Cryptotalk forum got too much of traffic in a very quick time period just because of their campaign and contest for maximum posts making but now their activity of forum reduced a bit as far as I am observed so they also stopped paying per post as well but not sure since I don't have created any account in their forum.

Well this is expected from the beginning,maybe the activity will completely shut down gradually if they have no contest going on like what happened with ICOforum.

A forum need a project behind it to have a sustainable traffic.
And hat project cannot be bitcoin, because it is already the project behind this forum.

Cryptotalk need something new to offer. A new idea, some innovation which would make people visit it
This things take time and it would take years before it is a well know site. Slow and steady, there are no shortcuts.

Imo, that forum is just a waste of resources which could be used funding new ideas which would bring innovation, not spammers who don't k ow what they are talking about.

Paying spammers to spam there is just a waste of resources. It will never work.

Maybe if they hired only very selected users, to create relevant content in their website (not only here)...

Its down for all, Is this the end of the beginning which never started ?

https://i.imgur.com/vXNVPzm.png

It would still continue since users seem to be getting paid for their post. Last time I checked their site 4-5 hours ago the site was up and running so it's only down for a few hours still unlikely to close down.

Their cryptotalk signatures might've slowly lost traction that's why they eventually changed their signatures and moved to promoting their airdrop/yodollars.

it's unavailable to me.
one of the conditions to get 700 Yodollars is to register on Cryptotalk forum. Plus the possibility of referral earnings, I guess there is a large influx of new user registrations. I wouldn't be surprised if scripts for automatic registration already exist and spam forum.
We will see after 28. January when this "currency" going to market.

A coin they need to have in their forum and fortunately yobit does have which is the YO. A coin that they can trade in the forum with a marketplace for it just like an altcoin with their own forum. This still works for some altcoins ETH and EOS does have their own forum just like Cardano. It must work but there isn't a lot of information about it and I guess this is where the forum can be helpful in spreading info about it.

The forum is accessible on my end. Yobit did spend a lot of money on the marketing of that forum so I guess they are going to maintained it. We really don't know what's the long term goal, but obviously, they have a lot of capital and still paying spammers to keep their forum alive as of this time.

It works for me. Maybe they were doing maintenance when you were checking it out.

Yo dollars? Is it this their crypto ponzi with sell restrictions? I remember reading about some coin on yobit that people got from an airdrop and can't sell.

Cryptotalk isn't going to beat bitcointalk but they could be trying to direct traffic there and increase the value of the domain to sell it with profit.

Sometimes it's difficult to understand Yobit. They have spent lot of BTC for promotion of Bitcointalk here, but I'm not sure what returns did they got. From what I see there isn't even ads on their forums or direct promotion of Yobit exchange, I'm not sure how they monetize it. Maybe it become not viable anymore to promote Cryptotalk, spending a lot of money for and they just switched signature ads to Yobit.
But they are still paying for posts on Cryptotalk and it doesn't costs them much. Probably they will continue doing it for long, because for them it's good to have forum which can be used for shilling of their exchange.
But I'm sure that when Yobit will stop paying for posts on Cryptotalk, it will turn into ghost forum on the same day.

AFAIK the campaign pay per post on the forum still running, the admin there said it's a long campaign project. Maybe they want to build higher traffic crypto forum.

The signature campaign here is still connected with the forum, they want to promote their own coin and the forum at the same time. But that forum is full of spammers with brand new account, it's need a lot of effort to clean that mess.

Also I'm not sure about the future of yodollar.

It is working fine in my browser, probably not in yours, idk whats's wrong but taking assumtion that something face an end just because you can't access its site (probably for a while) is bad thing, not only for cryptotalk but about anything.

Thye achieved what they want to achieve, they have 47,000 ranks in Alexa, total members is 107012 and they are still paying in real-time, I think they have a long term plan for this forum, they will not spend a huge amount of money just to neglect its development, but I don't think they can surpass Bitcointalk in terms of topics and great posters.

Seems they already have serious traffic, according to Alexa.com cryptotalk's alexa rank is 47,475 and bitcointalk's alexa rank - 10,398. Also most part of their visitors are Russian, then comes Pakistan and India. For bitcointalk it looks following: India, United States and Brazil. Also Daily Time on Site on cryptotalk is 1.5x higher compared to bitcointalk (this last one has 5:54). So I would say that cryptotalk really achieved something significant during their campaign in a very short time.
But there is one thing that I think about: Cryptotalk has just better design and their own pay per post which is pretty similar of our signature campaigns, so nothing significant there. Also they don't have as much erudite people as we have and even level of bitcointalk's erudite people is huge. Now imagine bitcointalk moved on new forum software, we will achieve better design and functions so why will anyone use cryptotalk? It's current benefits will be written off.

They are new hence imagine on what they achieve right now and that would be a good performance to see and if they will get more audience for sure those advertisers and investors will follow since I believe they will not look on single site to get a traffic for sure they will look for another  option and cryptotalk will be notice for that matter.

And if cryptotalk owners will pursue to spend more money for advertisement then it's no surprise that they will get a name in cryptocurrency scene.

Campaigns are not expected to be forever. For a forum based campaign, its meant to be for a short time and realize the specific number of people or accounts on their platform then move to something else. Just like businesses that launched a new product, you get to see campaign ads here and there and sometimes even bonuses just to increase users but the moment the objective is achieved, they change focus to building and ensuring the market they have gained during the promo period is not lost drastically which I guess the same thing is going on for CrypotTalk.

Sure, their rank skyrocketed due to their huge campaign. But since the campaign stopped, expect their growth to slow down and stagnate. Their growth was pretty much mostly direct clicks from Bitcointalk, and now they don't have that, it's going to be tougher; in contrast to Bitcointalk whereas this forum has quite good SEO, with a good number of bitcoin and crypto related search queries that ranks high on Google.

Most of their traffic comes from Russia and according to Google trends with "cryptotalk" term it seems only Russia use this term and it's going to be trending in this country.

According to similarweb their website traffic increase too fast (https://www.similarweb.com/website/cryptotalk.org#overview) in 3 months so our forum is one of the big influence to rank cryptotalk too fast in Google rankings but it is showing some sign of big traffic drop from Ukraine. 

I tried to analyze the whole cryptotalk backlinks but it shows almost 219,067 backlinks result and most of the backlinks are from Russia.

They also have bad spam scores from moz which is I think will lead to massive backlinks drop in a few months or Google will remove their website from the index.
https://i.imgur.com/uxWJd8d.png

Overall all their SEO strategies are by spamming that I think may also push their rankings down after the penguin update.

Yep, and that's not a good thing SEO wise for them. It literally means that people only mostly stumble upon their forum is people that already know their forum in the first place. They'd have to rely on word of mouth from people advertising their forum as having an integrated pay-per-post. Though I'm not sure if that's what they want their forum to be known for.

As far as I know, they are still running a pay per post campaign in their forum, so they certainly don't want to close Cryptotalk. In my opinion, they are most likely to analyze the effects of the campaign right now. If the effects are positive, they will probably come back to continue "Cryptotalk campaign" on Bitcointalk one day.

One of the reason why they rank in Russia,because they have a Russian board there, the only local board in Cryptotalk, so many members are requesting their own board but until now they did not granted any local board request, another request that they failed to addressed until now is the deletion notification, I feel disappointed whenever I login in my Yobit panel to see my qualified post drops because of deletion, when I am not receiving a notification of deletion.

Unfortunately, but I don't think that is the only reason. I am convinced that the reason for the large spam on Cryptotalk from Russia is precisely that the posts are paid there. It is widely known that a lot of spam is coming out of Russia. Of course, this is not due to the desire to do only spam, but it is noticeable because it has a lot of citizens, and paid, online tasks are extremely popular there. Same happen with faucets visitors, they mainly are coming from Russia.

You will be paid when you make 100 post on their forum and if I'm not mistaken they will paid you 0.00001 btc per post.

Seem like they have achived as they want and at least to reduce some bad negative information about yobit (as you can see on scam accusation board there are a lot of accusation against yobit). Other factor, they have choosed the right campaign manager who really can be trusted to manage the campaign.

I'm posting there from time to time, the issue has been deleted post and post that are not counted, it's been the case ever since, no problem with payment because they are automated but you have this feeling that your post may not be counted or deleted, even if your post has quality, that's my observation, I want to post comfortably, that is why I am not very active there.

I joined the campaign when I already had this yodollar ( I found it interesting to rejoin their signature campaign ) and I also trade in yobit again ( I use small amount of money ). But I confess that I know nothing about this altcoin that are creating or advertising. All I heard was that the price will depend on supply and demand. But they don't say anything about the team and the whitepaper.

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about the yobit forum, I believe they are taking this project very seriously

I think cryptotalk will take a long time to become a competitor to other forum sites. And I think the best forum as long as I know it is bitcointalk.org

Other crypto forums were full of bounty shits or ghost and some even died so actually there is no competitor for bitcoin in the near future since it was created.

Better they keep advertisements on bitcointalk or they also will lose traffic more.

I did not create an account there but stopping signature promotion here does not mean they are not longer interested in that site. They have already spent a big deal for its promotion, they must not give it up just like that. The signature campaign was probably just a way for their site to be introduced here, the biggest and original crypto or Bitcoin forum. As of now, they are promoting a different one but still related for sure.

They just want to get more users in a faster way so they use the most popular bitcointalk forum, and now that they achieved their target, the site can run while they still continue the pay per post with a lower price in the forum.

Cryptotalk was just a disguise to promote yobit. They couldn't directly dare to promote yobit exchange as the last signature was banned for creating spam. They used cryptotalk forum as a way to promote yobit as both the payments from the signature campaign and the cryptotalk paid posting went to yobit ID of the user. Currently they are promoting yoda airdrop which would also go directly to yobit exchange ID.

Yes, the site is working again from my end too. Maybe it was down for a very small period of time. I did not said that crytotalk end but asking about how it will grow without the advertisements.  I think they will keep getting the traffic as long as they are paying per post on their own site.

Its been a month almost that we do not hear about whats going on cryptotalk. Anyone who knows if cryptotalk is still alive and what campaigns they are offering on their own site ?  I am not active there anymore hence have no idea what's going on there.

It's still a very active forum and there's a new members almost every minute just wonder how can they keep up with the many members posting in this forum, I don't believe that they are going to be a threat to Bitcointalk, I don't like their theme and Russian is the local board until now they don't want to grant request for other local boards.

Who knows? Just visit out their site if you do like to have some updates or if you do seek out for some campaigns.No one will try to check it just for you.  :)

There's no such thing on being a threat to this forum yet everyone can make their own.In regards to topic then im aint sure if those were real ones (1 account= 1 owner).
Some just drop by for some bounties or airdrop then leave afterwards.

They are very hard or strict in one account per member, once caught you will be ban even if you have thousands of posts to your credit or a full member, they never tolerate multi account and they ban IP if used from spamming or coming from multiple account, there are hundreds of banned account now.

I thought yobit are going to be doing their signature campaign in that forum but I see its not happening. There was a thread about yobit signature but all there is are just waiting for when it would happen.  There are still hundreds of users posting there for 1K satoshi per post but before you can do this, you will have to post 100 for free. That's their rules there. Still a good future if they continue to have posts.

The admin of the forum have confirm what the official account of Yobit have posted, but the admin of the forum hasn't received instructions on what campaign they are going to promote, one thing about the signature code in Cryptotalk, they do not allow multi links I got a warning for posting a lot of links in my signature.

That forum doesn't hold good future when people are posting for the sake of getting rewards for their posts irrespective of what they are writing on their post.It is simply to keep their site traffic above and attract investors into their forum to make money and spend pennies.

Ha, they will just keep promising to continue that campaign whenever they want so their users will keep posting there for nothing.

That forum will have no future if their users will only be active when they were told that they will be paid, no healthy discussions just copy-paste type from here to there or any existing topics in the internet.

I don't say that people go to the cryptotalk only to tell me updates. I was just asking if anyone already active there can share the updates here.  :)



So basically nothing have changed there and they are still paying the same 1K satoshi to their participants. When yobit discontinue the campaign here, they told they will start it on their own site, which have not been started yet.

So far this is the only paid to post forum and it's much better to work here than doing faucet, some of the members here are newbies in Cryptocurrency and they want to get satoshis because we all know that halving is just around the corner every satoshis are important because of Bitcoin's limited supplies.

Maybe you're right. 1000 Satoshi per post is nothing compared to signature campaigns on Bitcointalk, but it's obviously it's better than claiming from faucets. Offcourse, quality of content is very low there, people came there for money, not for discussion. But it's Yobit forum and they can do whatever they want there and I couldn't care less about it.

But you can't withdraw your earnings since it gets credited to yobit account where the withdrawal fee for each bitcoin transaction is 0.0012BTC so anyone who wants to withdraw needs 120 more posts to cover the fee so what kind of discussion we can expect from them.

So faucet is better than this 1k sats offer? ::)

Oh, I completely forgot about Yobit fee... Well, making withdrawal using cheap coins like Dogecoin can help to save some money, but if you want to get BTC, it's an issue.

Yobit is still interested in https://cryptotalk.org forum as seen on twitter recently been tweeted by yoda 1% IB holders.
They are trying to divert traffics from this forum to https://cryptotalk.org but it is not as easy as they thought, i guess they are now discouraged which shows in their non payment of the forum posters.

That's not true in fact I can withdraw my earnings to my wallet even if it is only worth $2 all I have to do is to convert it to Litecoin or XRP these two coins offer a much lower fee compared to if you are going to withdraw it on Bitcoin, many members of this forum are doing this, in fact so many of them stopped doing faucet because this is much better.

Good to know its confirmed they are still up to develop the forum. One day we may be able to see cryptotalk to be with good contents though. If I were they I would actually hire more writers who will post articles in the forum to drive traffic and give incentives to authors who can bring more traffic.

1000 Satoshis will probbaly worth more than $2 one day and if you just hold what you earn there it can give you more. 

I would really love to know if any non micro earning zombie clicked on it, had a browse through it and thought 'hey, this is some quality shit. No way am I returning to Bitcointalk now.'

They've got a pretty narrow window to haul it out of shitsville before they stop paying and the place turns into a ghost town. There's a million dead forums for every thriving one. I can well imagine popping back there next year and finding nothing but an unmoderated scattering of penis pill ads.

Im do already anticipate for that thing  to happen.We've seen how hard they do try on hauling users or visitors into their site but still fails on getting loyal users and this forum is just really good
for some sort of penny hunting. lol and later on they would just simply leave and go back to this forum or any other places which would suit out their interest or when it comes to money
earning.They've been quite for a while now and i dont know if they do re-run their paid per post thing on their own forum or totally stop it due it isnt already feasible for their side.

Now many complaints also coming as few members reach on full member status they are facing different type issues like access denied or banned as one of my twiiter friend already leave this just because of this issue he completely 1000 posts and have payment for nearly 800 posts due to delete or other problems its doing some tricks with payments as well.

I have a friend who has that experienced after having more than 500 posts he cannot access the site anymore, for some reason his IP was banned although he did not received a notification in his email that he is permaban they employing cloudflare which ban evil IP in their system and it happens his IP was caught.

it's expected that they have a plan to stop the campaign as they can't run it forever, otherwise they will spend all their funds for that simple advertisement.
I believe when they made the decision to stop the campaign, they have already achieved their expectation, and now they want to continue it on their own platform using those people who join their own forum.

I don't follow their campaign a lot in the site but i hope they'll be successful with their forum and that would help their business which is yobit, and I also hope yobit will increase their services to their clients so we will not read a lot of complaints against them.

They have decided to limit the pay per posts by removing the following countries to get paid from their forum.

They not paying posters who are coming from
-Nigeria
-Pakistan
-Indonesia
-Venezuela
-Egypt

No wonder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225039.msg53825372#msg53825372)
Three weeks ago I was thinking that people from Venezuela are using that website as a faucet, I wonder why Syria is not on the list.

Anyhow, how do they plan to enforce this, mandatory KYC?

How ironic
https://cryptotalk.org/topic/74600-february-25-updates-for-cryptotalk-campaign/
99% of the people talking about the ban on spammy useless content are spamming low-quality posts also...

Posters from these countries have already started crying and begging not to enforce this rule and do not let their earning stop. I wonder how much they depend on the earning from the forum after seeing such posts.

https://i.imgur.com/K1TQjiS.png

But they can easily bypass this restriction by using VPN,right?

And also restricting based on countries may not be the right move if they want to get away with the spams.I guess they have moderators then what is their job in that forum?

They will have to open a new account if they are going to use a VPN and they will have to start all over again that means posting 100 free posts again before they can be included in the system, feel sorry for those who has been in this forum since the start that will not earn anymore because their country is among on the list.

So what is the point of such restrictions?

Cryptotalk is using this to get more traffic for their site with free of cost.

Some of them do not seem to be much tech-savvy. You hear you can make a shit ton of money by spamming a forum (even with alts) and you start to do that. It's not like they know a lot about Bitcoin or even computers in general. Sometimes, a friend just told him he's making a bank online, which is better than most jobs there, and them immediatelly started to do what he's doing now.

Mods doesn't seem to do a good job as 99% of the forum is a spam fest.

If they removed the spam there wouldn't be anything left even though if I were Yobit it would be causing me physical pain to actually pay these fucking dunderheads for their 'hard work'.

Something has to snap soon. It'll be an object lesson in why buying your way to community success never works. It would be interesting to see what a non paying week would look like but I guess most of them don't understand Russian or English so probably won't notice.

I just check the forum and feel nearly 90% to 95%  is all full of shit and spam so just banning few countries is not enough as they have nothing to talk technically or any thing related to bitcoin or crypto mostly full of just repeated posts or few are talking good about forum and yobit nothing special is happening on this forum.

The strange thing is that troll boxes usually thrive and in BTC-e's case you had to actually have money on the site to be able to post. Perhaps it's because of the increased potential for pumping and dumping and scaring people.

They should experiment with a live messaging feature, not that I want them to succeed.

I am not looking at the Cryptotalk spam situation, so I won't say anything. However, today I compared the results of visits on Bitcointalk and Cryptotalk at Alexa rank. Of course, Bitcointalk is much higher in the ranking but I am quite surprised. It seems that over the past 90 days, visits to Cryptotalk have been rising steadily, while Bitcointalk visits have dropped quite strongly over the past month. Of course, Bitcointalk's position will not be in danger for several years, but I don't know how to explain this situation..  ::)

The free and largely indiscriminate handing out of money of course. Watch what happens when it stops. I've noticed the most common term posters use there is 'work' when related to being on the forum.

These days on here you now need to actually show some worth to able to access decent opportunities.

Here's one of the threads titles on there which says it all - 'What will happen if 5 people are using same wifi for crypto talk?'

No worries as in next few weeks you will watch cryptotalk ranking will also dropped because today they ban few countries and those all was in top ranked for bringing traffic if they keep this ban then surely its going to dropped or if they allow them again as they just doing for other issues then may be they will on rise as now bitcoin talk is authentic forum its going good.

Their rate of HQ posts is relatively low compared to what we see here, and they left no efforts to try their best to bring down the level of Bitcointalk posts to high spam quotient. Remember those days when 20 posts a day were the talk of the Town and spam was spreading like someone started firing bullets from an AK-47? I'm thankful to Yahoo for pressurizing them to just drop down the number to 5 paid posts a day max.

I don't care too much, I just wasn't sure how to explain it ...
There is also a lot of spam on Bitcointalk, but of course, I can imagine that it is much less than on Cryptotalk.
Still coming back to information about the drop in visits on Bitcointalk, I wonder if the end of the signature campaign by Yobit had an effect on it..  ::)

You have a point, it's been proven that posters cannot keep up with a high number of posting it will lead to spamming, they should lower the maximum number of posts and at the same time increase the post rate, so posters will have a motivation to come out with a good posts.

But they have nothing to improve because if you can able to check as I have few threads on cryptotalk really feeling wired whats going on one person asking I want to withdraw from yobit all thread is full of spam as nearly 500 replies with same answer so what the hack mods doing there is not motivation or nothing serious topic to talk most of spams and just time waster posts.

You know why, it's because there aren't enough categories when I was active there it took me 10 minutes to find one topic that I am comfortable participating because topics are all the same, because I don't want to spam the forum and yet some of my posts are deleted because the whole thread was deleted.

That was not free of cost as they are paying around 10 cents for every post on their forum. I think this ban will not improve anything there and people will come up with ideas on how to bypass these restrictions.

Cryptotalk should end the pay per post and then see how many people remain on their forum ? :D
 

I was very struck by that too.

The shitposts here are basically identical, they all say nothing, but they are framed by posters who are capable of being lucid and informative and they usually infest threads that started with a proper question or insight.

If an entire forum is one giant shitpost there's basically no need to actually read any of it. You already know whatever is written will be empty shite. I've no idea how they're going to change that. This place basically got a shitpost infection. That place was founded on it.

It's not on the members they will write shit if they lack category and they have 30 posts to complete to earn at least the minimum, we all know people will spam if they are paying on every post and the minimum is way to high imagine 30 posts just imagine 1000 posters and they all posted 30 post daily, that's 30000 posts daily, how can you moderate that number.

30,000 Posts per day is not possible on the forum which is very new. Just compare it with this forum. Just in the past 24hrs here 6144 posts were made by 2458 users. (Source: http://loyce.club/active/ (http://loyce.club/active/)) .  So do not expect 1000 users each to make 30 posts daily on that cryptotalk forum. That is not realistic number.

It is very realistic when you can spam freely and get money for it. And even use alts to avoid the 30 posts a day limit.

The "Most Online" number on their forum was 13578 in the last month. Do you think these users would miss out making their 30 posts? The total of posts in that forum is current at 2996322. The last cached (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fcryptotalk.org) version of it from yesterday shows 2930900 posts. That's *at least* 65422 in a single day, double of what you are calling unrealistic.

i dont think member will complete those 30 post maximum daily for just satoshi.
10 post perday is more realistic than this 30 post which is too much for other user's and can also be caused of ban if moderator find out that you are abusing thier campaign  by completing the maximum post daily.

They should lower the number of posts to 15 and increase the rewards to 3000 sats, so posters will be motivated to reach the minimum requirements and earn the maximum rewards, if they will not do this, they will keep banning people or countries.
They are putting ax in the head of their loyal posters I have seen one senior members, not eligible to earn anymore because he is part of banned countries.

I dont think it will work ,it will make user's to make multiple accounts instead of one account. They should  reduce the post maximum.

 increasing the payment for every post wont help at all.

They should hired manager that will check all qualified post   than making it automatic payment to yobit account it will reduce the spam if someone managing it.

Cryptotalk posters are always motivated, so they do not need to increase the reward. Even if they half the reward to 500 Satoshi per post, the writing slaves will keep on writing no matter what they get in return.
When there is no moderation and no selection process, then you will expect everyone to jump in and get the money. Think of those who still earn faucets which pay 20 - 30 satoshi. All those people can write a single worthless sentence and get 1000 Sat.

That's back in the day where btc was still cheap, at the status now, I don't know if there are still people who will waste their time in faucet to earn satoshis.
Well, as for cryptotalk status on pay per post, that was really cheap compared to campaign here, and maybe they really need that as they want to make their forum gain a lot of traffic, but in overtime, I am not sure if they'll get their expectation.

We can't estimate the effectiveness of prepaid posts on forum, because we don't know what percentage of people are still at this forum even if they're not paid for it.
If 100% of people were paid for posting than quit when feel it not worth satoshis than strategy doesn't work at all.
But it feels for me that strategy was working much better actually

Already there is big controversial decision taken from cryptotalk admin which is to ban everyone from specific countries and the list getting updated everyone so not many people have chances to make money from cryptotalk anymore.

Feels like they are running out of funds...

I doubt they have a shortage of money what with all of their shitcoins and scummy moves.

Thieving willies know when they're being taken for a ride too. If you make something available to others the chances are they won't have the slightest qualm in taking it from you.

Yes they do have money but they lack serious posters who are there to contribute to the growth of the forum, they only have people who wants it as their cash cow and those who promotes their affiliate links and projects, they suffer from burst posting because 30 posts daily is very high for any posters to complete to earn the a decent income here.

If they limit some countries, it means that they are either running out of funds or they are improving quality. If we think that money for Cryptotalk (read Yobit) is not a problem, it means that at first they wanted to attract attention with spam, and now they are slowly moving towards quality.

I also think that 30 posts a day is a lot, but if someone from a third world country considers it to be his full time job, then I think that within 8 hours he can write 30 constructive posts.

There are so many spammers on this forum, that if you write a very good and quality posts and you happen to live in a country where they banned members, then your work will be futile, imagine all the others are spamming while you take your time to create a good posts and you get ban because some of your countrymen are spamming, this will really hurt you.

Its hurt to those country affected ,well they can easily ban an account why its needed to ban one country if the spam is only made by one persons?
The problem is they cant manage it right. thats why they choose an easy solution which is banning a country instead of one person continue doing that spam.

If they want quality then they should increase their moderation, restricting people from certain countries is not the right way and will damage all the reputation you made by spending a few thousand dollars on your advertisement.

30 constructive posts so 30,000 sats which means the user will get $2 dollar per day. Even beggars from third world countries can't survive with this earning.

There is a whole thread dedicated to claim cryptotalk racist because they're already banning some countries from using it.
The problem is not one-sided as you described it, but I hope they'll figure it out somehow because their service for sure failed to become better

Drop by to check the forum and this is what I see, I think they are right in banning people, but I don't recommend countries,
if they are not banning on a case to case basis they will always have something like this because spamming has no country

i agree with this statement moderation is what that's forum need's and its better to hired more moderators that can do that job , than having many new spammers created thier account.

You can easily spot the spammer before they can complete the 100 post requirement before they are able to get payment.

That would require additional expense if they do tend to hire more moderators on a specific board or local.I know this forum is much more updated compared to btt
which they can easily spot out multiple accounts on same ip, why not try to ban ip to get rid of those who do spam and prevent them on creating other account?
It can be bypassed by VPN though but it is much more better option than banning several countries.This do takes away the true motive or purpose on a crypto forum.

Yes , but having many spammer's and paid them is the same than adding more moderators.

Why would you pay for a spam discussion than pay it to persons who can moderate your forum and help your forum to reduce spammers .

The community has grown rapidly but unfortunately it did not expect getting the results that they wanted, the system invited for spammers to be active in their forum imagine 30 posts for only 1000 worth of sats, to earn a decent income here you have to complete that 30, and even if you are a good posters I doubt if you can complete that number of posts without posting some spam posts.

30000 satoshi is around $2.7 but you are right that it is still not much. However, maybe there are places in the world where is possible to survive with $70 a month.  ::)


It seems that blocking countries is more nationalism than racism ... However, here these actions are not about nationalism (or racism), because the reason for blocking are economic and not prejudice.

its not economic reason, it clearly show low quality posters. obviously they have invited a lot that doesn't even knew what bitcoin is. their users party over getting commission from invites to yobit. now that the posts are caught being shits, they blame each other for being low quality posters. the party is over.


Philippines was added recently.

Probably in Amazon,even $0 is enough to survive there. ;D

More and more countries getting added into the ban list of getting paid. Yeah bright future for them ahead (Sarcasm). :P

If I were living in a bucket of my own faecal matter in a third world slum somewhere I would've anticipated such an outcome and initially signed up with a VPN signalling I was living somewhere like here -

https://i.imgur.com/mstpLuI.png?1

Anyone who came from here should've noticed how loathed, mindless and relentless barely coherent shitposters are and done their best to distance themselves from it.

I do not know any place in world where anyone can live for as low as 70$ per month ?

Although  Cryptotalk is paying very low but there are people with many accounts and there only job is to post form multiple accounts and get paid daily. Although they have ban many multiple account holders but who knows some wise scammers people playing carefully with many vpns etc.

Minimum wage in Nigeria is somewhere around that level.

And as you say there would've been people hammering multiple accounts. I can imagine whole rooms full of them. Text spinning is a wonderful way for the family to bond together.

I need several hours to make at least 5 post on this forum, although I wrote them in a short liner but I tried to make it on topic. So, if there is some users who made a lot of post for just a few times although it is a several paragraph then I think it would be spam.

You will be right, the user who comes to the forum will just have one intention, they only want to get money. It would be different with this forum, the newbie will never get any money. I have been several times to come to crypto talk forum and there is no good post, such as for a learning place for newbie and etc.

There are few though, you rarely see it but you will notice it right away when you see the user has been numbers below their profile. The forum developed sort of a trust system that will turn red if you are not well liked in their forum.  They were disabling users who has same IP address which meant multiple account. Many were banned and a family that works together spinning text inside a room now are banned from squeezing their cash cow.

I have seen a lot of text spinning, because of the absence of local boards they will have to deal with spinning or using a translator to participate in the discussion but really surprised that the Philippines is included, these posters are good in English and they are doing great here and that it includes me  ;D.

I think its not about how good are the country in english  but they detected an abuse that came from that country. Maybe someone using multiple account in philippines just to earn higher in rewards daily which i think the owner dont like it.

As far as I know, multi accounts are not allowed on Cryptotalk ..  ::)
Anyway, everyone can use VPN, bypass ban on countries or set up more accounts. I think that if blocking countries will reduce spam, this will only be a temporary effect. Now, even the Opera browser has a free VPN service. And you don't have to be Einstein to come up with such an idea.

Desais one of the administrator admitted that he also uses VPN when login to his account on Cryptotalk, and they are not banning people from using VPN what they will not accept is when they tried to login in multi access IP AND device, so those bans are worthless as they can use VPN, they should add more moderators, instead of banning.

So even administrators tell you how to bypass country ban and how not to get caught when using multi accounts .. This kind of action seems quite illogical to me. If they intend to improve quality in this way, then the most normal ones users will have to leave, and scammers and spammers will definitely stay on the forum. In such a situation, it is obvious that this will not work and the only solution is simply to hire more moderators.

From what i can understand, the ban policy is about paiement for posting. Not banning countries from using cryptotalk. Today, i tried to log into my cryptotalk account but my ip is banned by cloudflare.
This is the message i got :

Does anyone knows if some countries are excluded from using the forum? I am from tunisia.

That's what it says on the big announcement on the top:


Tunisia isn't on the list.

I also found this, so it shouldn't matter:

Yes they can but I don't think they will a motivation to post anymore, seeing that they cannot earn anymore, while their co poster are earning 1000 sats per post, and you saw that you have a better posts than these posters who are getting 1000 sats per posts, they are better off, or they can make a request to be included again.

Tunisia is safe clear your cookies my account cannot access the site anymore and I am part of the country that they have banned I am almost on my 500th posts until this ban, I'm not looking to sign up here again even if they allow VPN because they are giving people bad rules and they also not listening to their posters.

I know that Tunisia does not belong to the countries banned from paying per post. My issue is that i can't even access the cryptotalk forum, as my ip seems to be denied by CloudFlare. In fact, i did some researches and found nothing similar to my situation and even by clearing cookies, the issue still persists.
Am not a VPN fan as i have nothing to hide, as am not slso an active cryptoalk user as well. But i post about this here to let the community know if any updates took place without announcing from support.

I use VPNs all the time. I have nothing to hide either. They are extremely convenient with all the increasingly irritating geographic blocks out there or using websites that limit visits. Since you have an issue then solve it.

You'll get enough free data with Windscribe per month to be able to use it and you can choose the location it thinks you're logging in from and stick to it. Other free options like Opera will be a lot messier.

VPN is very good for security and connection and for blocking sites that you cannot access because of your country's restriction if there's any, everybody who always go online should protect his identity and VPN is well recommended by security experts, that is why VPN market is a huge industry.

IF they allow VPN then banning is just useless.

But they are probably into cost cutting and just continue to ban the IP of the listed countries instead of hiring moderators. The spam still is there even after banning, you still can read the whole sentences of some posters which doesn't really make sense, not eve related to what OP is talking.

instead of coss cutting why not stoping that paid to post campaign in that forum so they will never need to ban any other country.
Then start thier own campaign that they can choose promoters like what they do here when they start a signature campaign.
It will lessen the cost they need to pay to all .

I prefer that they lower the number of posts and increase the reward so people will be obligated to post quality and they should hire good moderators who can easily catch spammers, some spam are caught after a few weeks and these spammers are very active in creating threads so if the thread is deleted so are the number of posts.

it will not work that way. They need to have more funds always since they need to pay all of the poster's .
They need to open a different campaign so they will only choose who is qualified to join and get paid for that. If they will pay them all it will also be abuse by multi accounts creates just to earn. And reducing the post and increase payment may also be possible to them to earn much easier.

They have already took the wrong steps by banning few countries instead of banning the spam posters. A better approach was to check the quality of the posters and ban those who have been spamming. Ofcourse this step requires more moderation which is lacking a lot on cryptotalk.

I am still trying to understand what are they doing because they already lost some good number of members but quality is still not improved and spam is also going as usual and mods are not good as they need to be its just all waste of time and money because its not going to help any one.

I visited the forum and I just notice that they are not accepting new members anymore,. there's only login page or widget but there is no sign up page anymore, I guess they are contented with the number of people on board now, that they don't want a new member right now, and that's also cutting cost for the forum expenses.

I wonder whether they're going to use that for a concentrated cull. If they decide they need some actual, er, quality then it's going to be a lengthy process and little will be left by the end. They should PM us lot. I'll do it for 0.1 per post which is the price of my dignity.

Then there will be only visitors will be added and no more members. Which is actually important if you want to have a good discussion start with your forum, i dont know what the admin think removing the signup option is not a good way since you are looking for more user's on the forum why not try to remove the paid to post camp instead of removing that option and banning country.

If they take away the paid to post feature then it's the end of their forum, I tell you I observe the majority of the member's behavior and they don't want to contribute to healthy discussions, they keep posting the same answers and they keep posting on old threads, the logic is if they post in a new thread there is a possibility of deletion, so check their new thread it took a week before it accumulate answers. 

I just now visited cryptotalk its like nearly more than 48 hours after you post this but I can see there is a new member who joined to cryptotalk just before 8 hours. https://cryptotalk.org/profile/230119-karat_minter/

So it seems they are allowing people to sign up from specific countries. ::)

The registration is still off https://cryptotalk.org/register I read from one post that the admin will open soon the one that sign up was approve when they close the registration but I have tried a VPN to check the registration page and it is still off, it will be announced by the admin if they open the registration.

A friend sign up before they close the registration but it's still waiting for activation if they now allow it you will see new member every hour on the forum page, but eleven hours past and still the same name, I guess he was activated from those waiting for activation, I don't see them opening the registration page, they are cutting cost, it will take some time before they open it.

Hell how they will increase the visitors if they dont want people to register.
They get many user's by having a campaign here however by banning many country it reduce it also .  They need User's to have more engagement on that forum if they dont want to pay user's they can easily remove the post to pay.

It's only about spam nothing more than that, no value in terms of traffic because in the first place they are not advertising anything yet on the forum, although they announced that they will soon have one, it just so happens that they check the spam stats and these countries has more spammers than other countries.

Ther user who I mentioned on my post was now removed so they are clear with no more new members on their forum.So it becomes like a private chat room,cryptotalk is no more a forum?

It's more like a private forum, this is the only private forum I've known, this is because of people who wants easy money and I think it will stay that way for more months, most of the cities are lockdown and many people are looking for work at home job and they don't want avalanche of spammers in their website.

they should open it for public since that was the reasons for forum to be created.

Traffic is what they needed if they want it to have visitor's  in that forum.

Not accepting new member's will reduce the potential visitors that they can have.

Why not having a competition that having a good topics will be rewarded  with btc in that way their forum will became home not only for spammers.

Closed online societies are went all way to the bottom almost every time, the history proves.
The members are less and less interested to built up or keep on with society they've made and it will slowly die eventually.
In case of cryptotalk there will remain some guys who still want to earn satoshis for posts and thats it

I would not want to meet the type of person who'd visit that forum for... fun or education. It offers absolutely nothing to a visitor. In fact it actively degrades the mental capacity of anyone who attempts to read it. The people posting probably don't read their own posts, let alone anyone else's.

They've constructed an entirely empty and worthless vessel.

Majority of the posts are redundant and just repeating what the other guys are saying with just a simple modification of sentence obviously they want to finish their thirty posts in just a short period of time, they used to ban hundreds but since they cannot keep up banning people they just prefer by countries.

I'd be interested to know how many bots are operating on there. Most of the posters seem too dim for that to even occur to them but there must be some smart cookies. I wouldn't be surprised if there are automated operations hopping between accounts and IP addresses posting on there. It's little work for someone in the know and could add up to a few hundred dollars or more per week if you had enough of them.

When you need to just fill in the 30 posts to get paid then you only focus on to fill in the posts without any new ideas. So people will just keep on repeating the same words again and again with a little modification and those lazy enough will use test sniping to get paid.

I am monitoring the sign up page it is still close and there's a possibility that it will not open again because the activity is still high, it seems they don't need new posters it's just enough to keep the activity going on I think they are more comfortable with it, if they are interested for new member they should have open up after the banning period.

its enough post to make by thier user's but it will not attract new visitors to visit the forum.

I dont know what their plan next but it should be always open for new members. What will the porpuse of the forum if you dont want to people to register to be part of the discussion create helpful topics on your forum.

Maybe they want only user's from thier country to be benefited for the forum rewards.

It's basically a Russian forum just check the Russian section you will see that they have more categories and sections than the English version and they have more Russian members and more discussions on Russia, so they they will not have second thought banning countries, because they serve the Russian customers.

The best days of this forum was when they are still running a campaign in bitcointalk.org forum.

I checked their traffic using this site, : https://www.similarweb.com/website/cryptotalk.org#overview

and it seems like the number of visits are going down.

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/03/22/cryptotalk.png

Just curious. What's the point in discussing about Cryptotalk's future. Personally, I wouldn't even bother whatever shitshow they are doing or intend to do in future. Cryptotalk took away some of the spammers from this forum for themselves which is good IMHO. So are you guys worried that since new users are not allowed to register to Cryptotalk they might flood towards this forum or just worried about the future of the spammers in Cryptotalk?

I think it's interesting primarily because they're going about growing in such a bizarre way. I'm not sure a launch like this has ever been attempted before so I'm extremely intrigued to see how it eventually dwindles to nothing which is very likely.

There's also the possibility of a tsunami of shit returning here but they're now fated to be nowhere on here forever unless they shape up. That aspect is of much less interest to me at least.

Why not this Bitcointalk is all about a discussion about anything related to Cryptocurrency we can talk anything here that is related to Cryptocurrency and also the fact that they are promoted here in the past and they've got members there that are active here also if no one is interested this thread will not be bumped.

You are forgetting that we are in "Service Discussion" section where we can discuss any service which is related to crypto.

I feel that you are asking this because that is another forum and not linked with bitcointalk forum, but this thread is for the discussion of cryptotalk forum.

I am not against discussing about Cryptotalk forum. It's just that when they were running  signature campaign last year, most of them were furious about the spam it generated. Now they have left the forum for good. So when I saw this thread, I was like why are still talking about it? They are just a spam forum with no value addition IMO. But gentlemand's reply sounded reasonable that's why I didn't raise any more questions.

The registration is now open but not all can register my friend used a VPN to register but on three tries all are pending for approval, the registration is not automatically open, it seems they are limiting the number of people that can get in maybe because of the too many spammers but the 100 posts for new members are still active.

A forum limiting the number of users, I think that is not right, they need traffic, so they want more members to participate on the forum.
What they actually need is a good number of mods since they are running a signature campaign that allows members to post tons of post, with that, they need more quality checker to delete spam post, in addition, they have to consider that quality is more important than quantity.

Obviously they cannot keep up with the spammers even if they hire 30 moderators in the English language it cannot keep up with all members posting 30 posts daily and they are monitoring 1000 members posting, so they prefer limiting the number of posters than adding more moderators.

If they want to completely clean the spammers then they should have encouraged people to report and also rewards them as pay per post but they are not interested to clean their forum all they wanted to keep fewer spammers. :D

In that case they can open a campaign and choose only a persons who should be pay with a criteria to choose by the moderator . It will reduce the spam made in that forum plus new member's  are able to register in any location around the world.

The spam is not the problem in that forum but the payment distribution all available member in that forum are  making spam post because they are  still able recieve payment.

Choose only base on post quality they can increase the payment for every post after they choose a good poster.

They just open the registration again and I'm thinking of joining again after the mass banning of their members just because of their nationality, I believe I can keep up with their rules, but I'm looking for a cheap VPN right now which is reliable and they cannot trade that I'm using one with 1000 post and 30000 sats  post limit daily, it will worth much in the future.

You are other person with other prefernces, but aren't you concerned about service banning users for their... nationality in 2020??
It seems like their days are numbered and there are not much left to be honest.

I would never dare defend nationalism, but looking from the business side, if a company closes its stores or restaurants in a country due to the fact that they are not profitable there, then for you is a manifestation of nationalism?
I don't know what the owners of Cryptotalk were guided by and I don't like this approach at all, but thinking logically, it was more about reducing spam, which is a business decision, not a nationalistic one.
However, this can be explained in different ways, so from a business and image position it was definitely a bad decision.

I see an opportunity to at least make some Bitcoin but I will not be like all the other there that what motivates them to post is the satoshis that they are going to withdraw, it's actually a big task seeing that some posters are posting one liner shit and you are going to post 2 to three lines and try to connect your post to the discussions, but of course Bitcointalk will still be my main forum as the conversation here is more dynamic and relevant.

As mentioned above its not fair to restrict members because of their location on the Globe, however I can see how this decision might have been taken. Already some countries are known where members aren't too focused on investment so fraudulent activity can be very high.

In addition to this, certain protocols needs to be in place in order for the business to have access and operate in that country so it may also be a possibility that some countries' policy/protocols have been missed or are about to expire leaving those people out  ???

After seven months or more, they still have the same theme or script they still have one local section the Russian forum, people are still requesting a notification of their deleted posts for transparency and they are still asking for more local boards, unfortunately all request are turn down, and I don't think they will grant their request.

me either  . 7 months is already long enough for them to atleast listen to thier users feedback or request but no they dont do something   .

scripts are okay and theme , also notifications for deleted posts isnt that necesary because on our forum , we also experience that ( our post sometimes missing without notif ) but the normal notifications for general stuffs should not be missed out  .local boards are also important because not all are good at speaking english , this can make the forum clogged out by poor posts   . thier future can be bad  if they will continue like this 

We are in a pandemic and since no one is allowed to work outside only at home, this is a good source for people to survive, 30000 sats daily is such a small amount but at least it can buy food in our local currency it's enough to buy 3 kilos of price, Cryptotalk is a blessing to these people I saw a big increase in activity because of lockdown.

It seems like there mods are struggling to handle the number of accounts created in the site. They have a sudden significant number of group, or let's say it's not organic so now they are facing some challenges, but hopefully they'll be fine as they spend big money for the site to skyrocket its traffic.

So they opened their site again for new registrants?

In the past they had closed and also excluded lot of countries from paying post from pay per post campaign so no third world country member can earn anything and also yobit's withdrawal fee is insane. ???

This is how Yobit used to treat its users since the bigenning, long time before cryptotalk forum; ignore claims/worst support/shady behaviors.
If a project is still confirming that he is not interested to build a good reputation, then it doesn't deserve to be used at all costs. I am still wondering why still more users are willing to join cryptotalk while it's bad reputation is spreading over and over.

I don't thin they open again because today I was checking on yobit exchange the list is still on and they are not doing any favour from these countries but may be due to lock down they have some good number of members from India and some other countries.

I hope the members from countries that are still accepted don't hammer the forum so much they get kicked out too.

People need to figure out that it's not a mindless money machine paying them. It's another bunch of people looking to a get a return, though I have no idea how. Their patience is not going to be infinite, and certainly not their tolerance.

AFAIK, there is no way to link the Yobit exchange account with Cryptotalk account anymore. It was forbidden by forum administration. The "new accounts are not accepted" warning pops up on the screen and admins have no idea when it will be possible to enable this feature.

Actually, every new user is currently "banned" from joining the campaign. So if you are not in, you can't join anymore. Even without the "spammy" countries, there was only spam in the forum. There is no solution for them if they keep letting anyone join and immediately spam for money.

That's right.

I was about to get active here again and start referring some of my friends who want to make an income posting in a forum, since they are good in English, but after reading this, I have to confirm it this, if you are not allowed to link your Cryptotalk account to Yobit anymore, then there's no use joining and posting here.

Let me guess they are not anymore have money to paid more member's on that forum so thats why they are making it that way.

Its better for that forum to make a good discussion  made on that forum and not being focus on paid to post campaign which can make more people make more spam post in  the forum with irrelevant topic and trash reply from user's.

It is possible that they even made some money out of that.

There must have been companies interested in advertising in their forum, as that forum still have a high number os visitors every day... It is possible that they are paying only a a few % of that money to spammers.

This will only happen if they have  ads in that forum., However i dont find any when i visited the website .
If they have this and paid all participants for every post ,i dont think there still enough income they can generate while paying all of them.
30000 satoshi for every user's. if there are 1000 active user's they need to pay them 0.3 BTC  which equvalent to $2000 daily. this is only if they have 1000 active members to post ,what if they have more than that.

Most of time they are deleting posts and not giving 30000 to every one every day as few complaining they post nearly 210 posts in 7 days and now they are nearly 170 ot 175 mean they are deleting nearly 40 to 50 posts from every member in every week which is also helping them for cutting in pays but still its very good amount every day which is they are paying to spammers.

Unfortunately, forum admins have no mercy for spammers, and they have announced the lifting ban of new registrations which can be useful for defending the ban reason of previously banned users. Maybe this is the reason why they don't let the new users to link the exchange and forum accounts.

Maybe yes, they run out of the balance which allocated for the marketing. Maybe they will freeze the new registrations until the balance will be replenished with huge amounts in order to meet the demand by spammers :)

Why is this, unfortunately???   ;D

And no mercy for spammers? 1001% of that forum is spam, and when it is not spam it's plagiarism from bitcointalk done by bots!
If they dah no mercy for spammers they would have to delete the entire forum and leave only the announcements unless even admins copied those from somewhere else, a thing that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Just for fun I've checked to google cache pages, so between 14 Apr 2020 19:24:08 GMT and 15 Apr 2020 11:15:36 GM they've jumped from 216558 to 216587 members, about 2 users per hour.
Also, they've done only 7138 posts which is quite low, 0.03 posts per user?

Anyhow, let them die...

OOps, fat finger :)

The forum dies every day and the admins don't want to pay one more cent more than planned budget. This is my own conclusion and the Cryptotalk has no future.

Surely cryptotalk has no future but few things are wired as why they are doing this all because if they run any faucet or thing related to fun then surely have some better response but this is really shameful act as they are doing this all.

Their campaign is something similar to faucet because they are paying 1000 sats per posts and max 30,000 sats per days but withdrawal fee is 120,000 sats so we can relate their strategy here.

No, it is not like that. Remember the Yobit signature campaign here? The campaign earnings are calculated automatically and the user can trade the BTC for LTC which has the lowest withdrawal fee around 0.001 LTC. New users don't have the same experienced as the old users and max post rules drive them nuts. Even posting 100 posts in a day is not making the account special for joining the payment per post campaign.

Or they could just use the XRP to withdraw their coins. Its a lot cheaper by using altcoins than BTC. There are not many topics that actually make the forum valuable, mostly are something that a newbie already knows but what was said above are always repeated by someone below. The admin surely does have a lot of money to waste though. Russian section looks a lot better.

Yeah, I knew that it is possible to reduce the withdrawal fee by trading bitcoin into other coins but when someone wants to cashout the earned money will be having hard time of converting an LTC or other cryptos into fiat compared to bitcoin, so people who need money for this quarantine period will suffer.

Yobit have perfect money withdrawal as well and its fees is also very less this is acceptable for many as its electronic money which is available worldwide without any problem.

Is Cryptotalk still operational? I can view the forum but am unable to login to my account.  Anyone else facing a similar issue?

Yes, I guess. People still posting on cryptotalk and I checked the timestamp of posters which is just few minutes ago.

I know that cryptotalk restricted people from some countries into registering their site but now they barred existing users as well?

I faced the same problem recently even am not resident of one of the restricted countries. I was suggested to clean the cookies from of my browser and it worked well.
If you are from a banned country, you may just use a VPN, then you are good to go. Many people confirmed that they are using this method but am not sure if they really got paid for posting.

Cryptotalk site will have your IP logs so cleaning cookies on your browser has no effect and if you are banned once means you are banned so you can create new one using VPN and get paid from the beginning but they also stopped new registrants so people who got barred has no other way to get paid and I am not sure that still pay per post campaign is still active on cryptotalk.

I haven't cared for that forum for a long time since long before users from my country were banned there I only saw developments. and in the end, the IP for my country was banned since then I no longer visited it.
there was even a colleague from my country who tried to use a VPN but that could not change as before, because the yobit account where the payment of 1000 sat was also banned.

Afaik, Yobit exchange enforce kyc for its users when they reach a certain level of withdraw limit. So it's still possible to use vpn when registering a new account in Yobit and Cryptotalk, because with 1000 satoshis per post five posts daily it would take a long time before reaching the minimum withdraw level.
I am not sure if anybody used this method, but i just imagine what banned users can do to get benefit from the forum as i don't expect someone using a vpn just to use the forum as a source of good contents .

There are still activities and they are paying people and I read from one post coming from the admin that there will be a signature campaign, it's been discussed months ago but they have not yet launch one, the one that will benefit are those coming from higher rank

They might pay people 'til this day, however the service itself lost any point/meaning to users so can't say anything good about them
moreover there was this story about them being racist, that was last straw for them imo

I don't know what pilosopotasyo meant by "benefit are those coming from high rank" but i think cryptotalk is still paying users for posting and this is why it started banning users based on their location.
Recently i remember a company talking about lunching a signature campaign in cryptotalk forum.

They are banning many countries but quality is still not good as they are still on very low level many members still replying same answers which is happening from start so mods are doing nothing for improving any thing and they will down and out soon.

There have been many forums like this, long before Cryptotalk appeared like Bitcoingarden, Altcointalk, etc. but there is no real development like Bitcointalk.
of the many forums that I follow, only this forum is still crowded and growing.
I am sure Cryptotalk will be quiet as the previous forums, forums created and initiated with payments like Cryptotalk will not last long, because the forum has the purpose of enlivening the forum by paying a few sat, and what happens if the forum does not pay any more because quality remains mediocre because it's a kind of bribe to its users. so I think the forum will be abandoned by users when they don't pay another 1,000 sat.

except for forums that are born to accommodate members with the awareness of the users themselves, and have a positive effect on the forum and are made crowded and developed so members are more comfortable.

CryptoTalk is owned by YoBit?

There is no direct proof of that, but forum is financial part is supported by yobit.

I’ve read that cryptotalk is slowly dying and is crowded with shitposters. The how more and more bounty campaigns appear there? So far I have 3 campaigns, that pays in bitcoin and tusd. For such a young forum this is a great result. Just wait till gambling projects start to run bounties there, and forum will quickly gain more popularity.

I know there is another crypto related forum - altcointalks. That is the one who is dying. Not more than 100 users post there daily, activity is dropping...

I believe the owners are connected but haven't followed their developments. No direct admittance also from their end. I just knew that they ran sig campaign under yobit's management before.


as of now they have about 200k+ users but don't know what percentage are really active users. or most of them are just using that forum for additional income of satoshis? once they stop paying that 1k per post, do you think there are still users that will post diligently on their forum? though it is another source of crypto info, but I don't think they will ever compete the popularity of this bitcointalk forum.

I can view the forum and all my account settings just fine but unable to post. Here's what i get:
https://i.ibb.co/KxmPCpt/image.png (https://ibb.co/3mk3t9x)

Mostly this happen as user reach more then 1000 posts may be same case with you because now they want you take some rest.

I certainly don't have 1000 posts on Cryptotalk forum.

Then may be they Ban your country or your account for more then one account because as you mention you can login but you cannot post so just these two reasons nothing else.

How is it possible for forums like Cryptotalk to compete with Bitcointalk, whereas cryptotalk users themselves are mostly users who lose their mind to contribute to this forum, that's why they moved and looked for 1000 sat in that forum.

It looks like your account is also prohibited from contributing to the cryptotalk.  But I think it will not be a problem because you are still active in this forum.

Its no brainer that no one can beat up this forum when it comes to crypto and to those numbers you have seen into that place (cryptotalk) is mostly alt accounts that been created by the same user just to abuse those
few satoshis per post and as said above that i already expecting on what would happen if that said pay-per-post thing would end and it would goes the same on active users into that forum which signifies that
people only hang out to that place for them just to milk out some sats not totally concern into its importance.

The model represented by cryptotalk cannot compete bitcointalk because they are not at same level. Bitcointalk is not a pey-per-podt forum, while cryptotalk is. Many think that cryptotalk is an alternative to btt from the point of earning which is not true. The cryptotalk model becomes popular and many forums use it. I was recently invited to one of them.

Bitcointalk is a mission or a institute and Cryptotalk is just heaven for spammers or time wasters nothing else its future is also not good as any shit coin this can disappear any time without any prior notice.

As others said it might be due to their restrictions from certain countries because only you are not able to post there.

Did you try with a new account?

I can access the site now..

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/04/28/crypto.png

There is no restriction in my country I guess. ...  sometimes forum will have its maintenance so maybe that's the reason why they are down at that certain time.

https://cryptotalk.org/


I didn't follow it a lot, but it seems they have a lot of members already.

Restrictions are for very few countries NG','EG','PK','ID','VE','BD','PH', but sometime if any poster done too many posts regularly then this error appear for few days so may be this will ok in next few days.

i am not from one of the banned countries and also I dont have too many posts, just around 120. still cannot post.

Believe me, I have used Yobit exchange more than 4 years approximately and the LTC is your best option for avoiding to pay high withdrawal fee. I didn't mention XRP because XRP pairs are not as liquid as LTC/BTC pair. If you have Yandex money account you will get what I mean.

No way in 2020. There are tons of alternative with making a small search on Google. Fiat, card payments, home delivery, face to face meeting or simply finding the place which accept BTC as payment method.

The saga has finally arrived at the point where yobit is going to screw all the shitposters, paying them pennies but still real money was too much.
Got this email from them in the morning:

https://i.imgur.com/LwUCdQc.png

So, the posters will be paid in a token created by yobit and they will not be able to cash it out till September  ;D
This will probably be the last nail in the coffin of that forum, the problem is that we might see some "users" return.

Alexa is not impressed either:

https://i.imgur.com/qykliMm.png

At last they do able to realize that they are just simply wasting up their own btc's on paying up shitposters just to make their forum to have some traffic or people inside it
and now they are switching up to TALK tokens? This forum is already dead, people wont just waste up their time and effort to recieve tokens which doesnt give an assurance
to have some worth in September. 3 months time is long and majority wont really be that patient to wait up.In regards to alexa rank then i dont see for it to be surprising,
this forum traffic is just driven out by most bounty hunters with lots of alts.  ;D

I wonder whether this was the plan all along or they decided it was doomed so they may as well use up their lab rats for a shittoken experiment. Either way I can't see more than a few delusional silly sausages sticking around until September.

It's been a fun thing to observe and an object lesson in how not to go about things. I wonder when it's all over how much money it made Yobit, if any.

Of course the  ranking will upsurge due to the fact that they are  paying some bounties for their posters before but I don't think it will rise continuously since I do believe  thy will go bankrupt if they continue to do that. And now for having  their very new coins payment will possibly will give them a little boost since there are still people will risk and   spend their time since they don't have a choice so they risk and its up to their luck  if they will be paid or not

I also thought it was a waste of money. The signature campaign here on Bitcointalk, and on his forum. I guess in the end it is a waste of money, but it's Yobit, well-known manipulators.
I remember a big fuss over their Yoda token (i think that's a name) and invest box, then they renamed campaign to airdrop. I still have these tokens in my account, but they do not worth anything, but there was not a moment that I could have cash-out them in any way.
So, I don't think that they are with a negative balance in this story, though it’s amazing to me that someone believed and invested in their token trash.

I'm sure that it was part of the plan, people have build their account and rank here, now Yobit cannot keep up anymore they have a totalitarian rules proof of that is banning people account and those coming from other regions, the forum is on the verge of collapsing many posters here cannot keep up with three months of waiting let's see now, I don't think they can keep up with this in a long haul.

We cant totally say that it would really result into zero user since there would still be people who would post up and do believe that they would be paid up and those coins would have a good value after being launched but we cant really avoid the fact that decline of user count is inevitable because people do always like to be paid up with btc or other established alts for their shit posting.If they do find out
on such changes on where they do receive worthless coins temporarily and would be known on september time then that will surely lost up interested.Future? this place has no future since from the beginning.

it wasn't part of the plan but its somehow part right now, they need to find a way to spend less and manage to make profit out of Talk token trading as well. this is quite a good plan though, if they can along put all the information about the token even just the github and the contract address if they'd be any, it will allow people to investigate what is on it. they are allowing  several months to prepare, they could be developing shits under its hood so we'll find out soon.

they made profits still. yobit is popular in Russia.
CMC still listed it and if we see CMC to have good AI right now as owned by binance then yobit must have presented real data which is among the top 100 exchange.  

Its mean they have all tricks to stay in market and take money from investors and enjoy this as you saying this was not original plan but I am sure they was doing this for some long time as now this is going to be burst in near future after banning many countries forum was going down.

After the recent news, i guess all of us think that the forum will reach an end by September when cryptotalk users will realise that they spent long time posting for another shitty coin. Well, i don't think so!
Talk token will be traded within the Yobit platform and may even be traded in other exchanges. You know why? Simply because Yobit surely has some plans to cover the token. It's easy to create bots trading it and report fake trading volume. I won't even be surprised to see that token listed in CMC or even other rating apps.
Yobit is a traditional market manipulator who doesn't really care about its reputation as long it generates profits from the shady plans it does.
I am really feeling sorry for those who are still thinking that Yobit+Cryptotalk represent the right side of the crypto field even after all those shit updates. New comers would always fall in those scammy shemes and i still don't see an efficace way to stop this catastrophy made by Yobit .

I dont think so. Do you really believe that it is the actual thing in mind of Yobit itself? We dont know on whats the true motive but building up an another crypto-based forum would most likely trying out to compete with this forum.Of course they would set out signature campaigns on initial phase because they do know that it can drive out traffic and might consider by other users to transfer from here to there but when it comes to
relevance towards cryptocurrency talks then no one can beat up this place.

No, man.They know competing with this forum will not work. None of the crypto forun can reacg such position ever you know. The goal of their forum is to attract more newbies in yobit, or getting new customers and promoting their shitcoin for free. Most of the cryptotalk users are people looking for earning without investment.
I will not surprise if I see their token is being huge pumped, because this way they will be able to attract more users to their forum.

Mostly are those from facebook who signup as referral of a cryptotalk member which is also part of the campaign. They know cryptotalk can't become big compare to bitcointalk but having a good number of active users will allow them to get more investors and traders.

Yobit is always going to be a priority for them. The administrator assures that Talk coins will have demands, there must have a good unrealistic plan for it.  :D

Anyone knows what is going on with this website, I went to this website after a long time and when tries to login, getting this error

https://i.imgur.com/L2oAhWH.png

Pakistan is banned country so you are not allowed to visit this site We don't pay for messages from these countries: 'NG','EG','PK','ID','VE','BD','PH' This message is on yobit exchange CRYPTOTALK CAMPAIGN you can check.

I totally agree with you. But let's notice something i saw recently; the cryptotalk forum succeeded partially to drive traffic using the signature campaign run by Yobit here in btt forum last year, which can be considered as something to establish an active forum. As a result, some other projects use cryptotalk to advertise their products and even run a signature campaign on it. I am not defending Cryptotalk here and i am sure that Yobit mainly create that forum to advertise its scam shemes starting from the famous "invest box" to the chimary 100% profit from coins created from thin of air. However, Yobit has no reason just to shut down the forum or to stop moderating it as it would still generate profits using different methods.
Nothing here about competing bitcointalk or comparing the relevance of cryptocurrency talks .

Well, it was stupid to expect that it will last forever. Yobit always make fishy schemes and their users usually don't benefit from it.
But I can't say that I'm happy to read these news. Yes, Cryptotalk is terrible where you can't find nothing just spam. But people here had opportunity to earn some money. And I don't mind that they are spamming on Cryptotalk, instead of comming to Bitcointalkand trying to esrn in this way here. Now after these news, it's likely that some users will return to Bitcointalk. Maybe we can redirect them to Ver forum somehow? :D

IIRC, admins said they only banned those countries from earning money, but they should still be able to read the forum and make posts (for free). But well, its Yobit.

Is it by any chance that you are using VPN. I have experienced such an error on certain websites before when using VPN service but on disconnecting it,  the website loads fine.

Cloudflare could have probably flagged your VPN's IP addresses for previous abuse otherwise the site works fine on my side

I'm able to load the site but it does not load as fast as it was before, don't know if it's due to my internet connection or my IP, I'm not using VPN by the way. Meanwhile, I check the website's statistics today, they seem to have drop their popularity.

https://www.similarweb.com/website/cryptotalk.org#overview

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/06/22/stats.png

Obviously because of the new payment system, from daily payout where you are guaranteed to make satoshis now they have to wait 3 months and they do not know the potential of the coin, there will be posters leaving and besides you can only earn those shit tokens if you have good ratings on your votes, so you may end up posting free here.

Im sure to be able to withdraw that TALK token you will need to do some tasks like dice, 10 buys and withdraw only some %, while everything is in investbox. 

If you even think about withdrawing the TALK token from Yobit exchange that's if it even a token made under any blockchain. Where else will you trade it for BTC or ETH?  ;D ;D

It might just be like one of those Fake tokens with no underlying blockchain technology that Yobit creates to fool traders/investors (just code on their website to make you think you own tokens yet it's just air)

Surely that's the prime likelihood rather than a possibility? There's tons of 'coins' on there that are nothing other than an entry in their database. All the people on that forum are their captives. I can't imagine they're going to let them go that easily.

I have not read that rules yet, hopefully this will not be the case, posters have earned those tokens already so they are free to trade it withdraw it, I don't think they will set up wallet for this token it will only become a trade able token but storing it will be on Yobit, they mentioned it's going to be used for advertising, maybe for listing token only.
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the payment will send to you automatically  in your yobit account I don't see a reason why you need to buy % of the coins just to receive it. and there is no way they will think to  have that option , it will reduce the active user's they have if they will fool them with fake payment which is you need to also buy first before you can get the rewards as you said.

Is that site promoted by wearing signatures alone? Or are there other ways for the site to promote?
If the signature campaign earns all that many visits, I do not expect that they will stop.
Perhaps the lack of financing due to the low price when the problem of covid19 occurred is what made them stop continuing the support of the signatures holders, but when the market rebounds again, they will return.

If any problem occurs for this forum, that forum will appear as an alternative, especially if the signature campaigns are publicly canceled.

This all is just your own shit thinking its not going to be coming back in signature campaign and its also never been alternative of this forum its only scam forum which is going to be dead very soon as now they are not going to pay daily users have to wait for for coin.

I just remember they told us when I was active there, that they are going to launch campaign for a signature campaign, but that never came instead they introduced a new token as reward, as you all notice the traffic is started to go down, some members will depart those who only believe in Bitcoin and don;t want to be a part of their own shitcoin called Talk token

Now end is near because most of users was active just because of quick payment and in bitcoin now both options are end so hopefully this forum will shut down soon as peoples not like this payment method and time both are against this all system.

Although I don't use cryptotalk but made an account long time ago and received this email recently. Anyone knows what are these tokens and cryptotalk has stopped payment in bitcoins ?

https://i.imgur.com/z51xkrK.png

yes they stop payment in bitcoins long time ago   and there are countries theh are banning using this forum as a members.

That token is the one who own by yobit to use as payment method on that platform that tokens can be use as advertisement on that website I guess , and can only be converted to bitcoin by September don't know exact date but that what they say in email. I also receive the same email .

It was only through wearing signatures in bitcointalk plus posting in their forum to earn some sats. So the traffic you are probably looking at which was high at the beginning was due to spammers and fake accounts. Not organic traffic.

Resources like money will limit them. Don't you see they have already started planning to pay out in shit tokens?

Possibly!

If they would see that there are no people who would visit out this place then theres no doubt that this one will close too anytime soon.
People would really just flocked in when they do saw money earning opportunity not on totally talks or sees about its relevance when
it comes to true crypto currency discussion. It will surely end on the same fate but knowing Yobit they wont easily quit on this instance.

Crypto Talk is an extension of Yobit, although they want to show that they are independent projects and that there is only a commercial relationship, in any case as an undertaking in the world of cryptocurrencies should add to the adoption by users.

For now the project is still ongoing, but with many weaknesses rather than virtues, the fact that in less than a year they are changing their payment methodology only indicates that they are still in beta phase, it is a business that must have profitability and be sustainable in time.

Being an Exchange-financed project, it should have the ability to stay for a reasonable time, in short, let's hope they go ahead and do not become a project that ends in a trap and consequently harms the crypto community.

As most of the people thought initially, this was their plan to start the forum in the first place. After getting some reasonable traffic, they would use this forum promote their shit coins.

I still think that this won't work either because all of the traffic which cryptotalk gets are from shit posters who are never interested to buy tokens.

You are right because right now traffic is going down very quickly as most of shitposters already leave or some are leaving as they are never interested in this shit coin they was doing this all just because of bitcoins which was coming daily now this all gone in hell.

Even bitcoin.com closed their forums because of low activity. Compared to the .com forums, cryptotalk have even smaller chances of becoming a big forum like btt.

I don't know what the latest situation is there exactly there but I can see that they lost most of the momentum they had when they started the forum.

For fucks sake even bitcointalk is losing its traffic for a very long time since 2017/December.

From what I see, I can tell that people just prefer reddit over any kind of forums.

once reddit release their own coin many of the users from cryptotalk will move to reddit  :D  during that 2017 december was the peak of bull season, obviously people were hear monitoring when they'd sell. now that there is nothing to watch out for, they'd find the board less friendlier.

i did create an account there in cryptotalk last year. they do have a huge Russian community, we all figure its yobit of course but yes. there are plenty of them there having a good discussion you just have to translate pages though some users are promoting their minted coins from minter.network too.

if i'm not mistaken the Talk token will be from minter.network.

Good riddance if they did. By the way before getting to know about bitcointalk, I first registered to that forum thinking it was the main bitcoin forum due to the domain. I would later discover that those chaps had no good intention at all when they kept spamming my email trying to shill BCH claiming it was the real Bitcoin  ;D

It does seem pretty buoyant but I expect most new arrivals will be going to places with a more instant message style. Reddit is a truly unbearable format and I'm amazed it's as popular as it still is. The IM style stuff like Telegram is of little use if you want to find actual past info though, as is Reddit a lot of the time.

The future of this forum is intriguing. There's so much whining from new members that maybe it's now seen as an elitist dead end. And then a lot of old schoolers have left in disgust at how much noise there is. Hey, maybe it needs its own shitcoin too, other than Grin.

It is imo prolly quieter than when i registered freshly, there are surprisingly only one or two sites (or maybe app) i have used as much as this forum in less than two years here and i can have no complaints whatsoever spending my time on btt over other places, Reddit for example. As for the future, it does look good from my vantage point, like in my case, I consider many users to be elite and without them, there will be no motivation or yardstick for newer users to work on themselves (and users with this same mentality are many).

People mostly complain because the forum policemen take their job a bit too seriously while catching the campaign abusers.

When they realize they can't spam the shit out of this forum with 10+ accounts, they decide to leave all together because it is not worth their time anymore. (unless it is chipmixer 8)) They probably have some better idea in mind to scam/abuse people. As a result, the forum becomes somewhere only a few people with signatures post.

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I never liked telegram or anything has to do with mobile. (discord sucks too) Never used them, never had the need to use them.

I use reddit's old design (with my phone too) and I quite like it. It is my go to webpage for years.

I see no future with mobile apps when it comes to serious discussion. Anything on mobile is just throwaway. Just like a shitty mobile game that you play for 5 minutes and delete.

I still read comments from 5 years ago on reddit because google still lists them in the first page when I make a search. Why do google list them? Because that comment from 5 years ago still holds relevant information.

So many factors in play especially when we talk about the forum software. I know am just roughly three years old here but what a wait it has been and still no promise that the new forum software will probably be rolled out in the next few weeks  ;D
This current forum software especially the setting bitcointalk uses looks old school. I wouldn't be surprised if some new users preferred the likes of Reddit to it.

This forum is also not mobile device friendly as compared to the likes of Reddit (they even have mobile apps) that you can access on the go. You have to use a desktop or Laptop in order to enjoy this forum. We all know this generation is one of smartphones. Very few people want to deal with bulky computer devices  :D

We cant really deny the fact that this forum itself do really decrease its traffic in spite of being the top crypto forum.How much more to those clone or trying to be one? I remember clearly that this forum had just become
famous when the time they do launched up a signature on this forum and made also a contest on that having 1BTC for top poster and other big prizes which lots of people do aim for that and suddenly increase forums traffic
in huge spikes but after that, what happened? Most people do just simply leave out and dump it since they cant make anymore money into this place.How much more if they do pay up now with worthless tokens?
Who would be the one to agree into those terms?

Despite of all these facts, there will be people who will be willing to work for the worthless tokens. Such people do exists and they will work for pennies no matter from where they get. Sooner or later their forum is going to die but since they have a lot of money, they may start another compaign any day, we never know.  :(

This is biggest advantage with them they have lot of money and can go with some new plan they already have a lot of shit posters those can do any job for them on any cost this is another advantage now as they already chek just money and some shity plan will works for them just money is really big advantage right now.

It is already dead. In fact, It was never alive in the first place.

They hired some people to post in their platform and that's it. Now they can't afford to pay with btc anymore, they are offering some worthless shit, in return, they'll receive some worthless shit = spam.

Their only chance was to keep paying with btc but also moderate and delete shitposts, and they blew it.

Now who gives a fuck even if they moderate posts? Nobody will post any meaningful stuff there anyway.

The introduction of Talk Token as a replacement for Bitcoin as their payout is a clear sign that they cannot keep up anymore paying their thousands of posters, so they create a token that will be tradeable only after 3 months, just imagine the long wait from daily cashing out you will now have to wait for 3 months.
People need money now, they will prefer to work on other sites or other projects instead of waiting for 3 months without any guaranty of the potential of the token.

I always knew that Forum will only survive short term from the way they start, and I  wondered how long they can keep up with such campaign, because even the people posting there are only doing it for the few sat, the moment the sat stop coming, the number of users in the forum will be reducing, not to mention the huge amount of spam post in that place, there is very little moderation going on there, I have visited that place a few times in the past, and the kind of post you see there are just unimaginable.

That forum is full of trash post and i do even saw that there are post which copied from here and post up into that place and the worst, plagiarism is too much.

We dont know on what yobit is aiming for but if that place is just good for some announcing their shitcoin line up then its their choice but if they are aiming to become
bitcointalk then its an unreachable type of goal.

This place had no future and would continuously lurked out by most spammers which do like to earn some pennies by shit posting.

Or they keep the place running so as promote their pump and dump projects, I have visited that place not as a register member but as I guest and some of the post their hardly make any sense,
I read some post comparing Bitcointalk to cryptotalk, the poster believe soon cryptotalk will catch up with bitcointalk, it was funny,
Although they have some few posters there but majority are gabbage (sorry to say)
The mods really needs to do a thorough clean up if they care about a less spam forum.

If any one thinking cryptotalk will catch bitcointalk then surely he is living in dream world because I also check few threads and have nearly more then 100 posts with same reply no moderation working and most of shit posters was on but as recently they are changing rules so now they are going down very badly in visitors and posters if they will do some better way then surely will survive for some time otherwise they will on vantilator.

That's what anyone would think until you start reading and realise everyone there is broke as fuck.

They have created a totally pointless cul de sac and echo chamber. You can't promote anything to people with no money. People with money will never, ever go there as there's nothing to see other than gibberish.

You could spend 12 hours there and never find one single piece of coherent information.

unless they can also have campaign  not only the paid to post they offer for user's and they can make more advertisement to see it by many people and have many user's.


Remove the ban of many countries they ban before and make a partnership with many project .make many contest/giveaway in that forum so the user's that will visit it   will not only  stay for  paid to post  they havr  but there are also other opportunities  they can give.

They have introduced at the wrong time because in pandemic everyone require money and weekly is the best option just like the other signature camping. And asking to wait for three months where people require money is absolutely no. Secondly, how the coin will do in near future is uncertain and just if it turns out to be the not much valuable people will waste their efforts and time during this long wait.

It's going to be an interesting psychological experiment. Part of me thinks they'll be lucky if 5% of the users stick around until then, another part wonders whether they're that deluded they'll think they'll get rich and stick around.

Perhaps the entire thing is some social scientist's PhD project.

That experiment is very costly, from the moment they started their signature campaign in the forum, they are already spending a lot of money, of course I don't want to question their capability as the forum is owned by Yobit which are generating money through their exchange, but I'm not really seeing the forum would be successful in the long run after they shoot up instantly and then started to fall now, the growth wasn't organic which is the requirement for the real success based IMHO, unless their change something for improvement, particularly the exchange reputation itself. 

Yes. The whole thing must have cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars at least. Perhaps there is an amazing plan that will come to fruition that we're not capable of comprehending right now. I severely doubt it but stranger things have happened.

I would love to know their motivation. If they had told anyone they were planning to buy their way to a functioning forum anyone could've told them that idea was doomed before it started.

To be a successful businessman you need 2 things:

1- A good product
2- A good salesman

A good product usually won't sell itself (sometimes it does but in most situations not) and a good sales pitch won't sell a shit product. (sometimes it does but usually not)

Yobitforum has neither of these.

Yobit continues to do their shady business and now with this so called talk token... and on top of that they will pay you in future (maybe).
I can imagine quality of posts in cryptotalk now will go even lower.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad  :(

Don't be sad for something bad since the owner itself made his forum a trash, if he's really serious with those matter then he should clean those mess and make sure to have a quality content since if he they continue to act like as if they don't care on everything for sure there are no serious users will come unto them. I don't know if they are paying their users per post but It's best for us not to waste any of our time and stay away with their newly created tokens since most provably it will be dumped by them soon.

Majority of the member here are against Cryptotalk, I wonder why no one here defended Cryptotalk, are no one here members of Cryptotalk, so he can defend this forum, I wonder what will be the future of Cryptotalk after the launching of Talk token if the this Talk Token ended up with no value then it's the end for this forum.

If this TalkToken failed then surely its could be not end of Cryptotalk they will bring something new for attraction and bring some shit poster they are doing for long time and they have many tricks in their bag so this shit will go on until all shit posters stop posting.

so I researched them (yobit) already have companies willing to pay for advertising on the forum ( I don't know if this is true or not ) and it will be with this advertising that they intend to pay the members of the forum that post, I took a few hours to look if there is any website that actually posted their ANN on cryptotalk and to my shock I found some sites:

- WINDICE

- Paradice.in

- Stake.com

- GameCash.io ( first time I see this site )

there are many other sites that if I list here will only make me spend a lot of time. But I think it’s good to have more forums. on the dark side of it all Is the fact that cryptotalk invented this talk token story, but I hope they pay people

Interesting.

What these companies may not have contended with is Bitcoin payments stopping to the posters there. I've noticed many people not treating Bitcoin earnings as 'real' in any way and they seem weirdly happy to throw it away.

Maybe they'll all turn into Talk token casinos, not that you'll probably ever be able to withdraw it from Yobit.

That's 4 Casinos as for now. Interesting choice.

I guess are willing to advertise there but Slow death didn't provide the link to it. It would be a more interesting read to see why and how they find it good to advertise there. The advertiser will have a reference soon like which would be a better place to advertise and which board they can generate players in their casino.

It only takes a few seconds to copy the ANN thread from this forun and create there with the same content.

I sense a bit jealousy here.

If stake.com (or any other company/casino) thinks they can also attract players in some other platform, they 'll use this chance. It is like buying a shitcoin. It is so cheap, you cannot lose anything for buying some. But what if goes higher? Free money.

They are doing business so they are willing to advertise any platform where they can drive traffic into their website so there is nothing wrong.

I thought cryptotalk will be a ghost forum but do they still maintain same activity as before?

One of my friend told me that they are receiving talk token on their Yobit dashboard but I am surprised on the name of the gambling site that are listed I haven't gone to Cryptotalk and login in my Yobit account, but if this is true then the members are the one that will benefit I just don't like their forum template they should change that theme to SMF a much better choice of theme.

I have no idea how accurate this site is.

https://i.imgur.com/efTEUbu.jpg?1

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cryptotalk.org

But it ain't looking too rosy on the basis of their analysis.

If they wanted to keep it perky, effectively shutting down money making for several months is not going to aid that.

Yesterday got an update email about the new payment system of Cryptotalk:

The new rating system is applied and only positive posts will be considered for BTC payments. As expected, the trading for Talk token was delayed again and they covered this delay with applying the old BTC pay per post model. The forum dies and they know how to restore the reputation but no idea how to fight spam except using post rate ranking.

Clearly It is not getting better. At this point they should let that forum die before it eats more more resources. But when you think about it, they shouldn't have started it in the first place.

They have zero content. All they have is paid shit posts.

tasting their own medicine. the irony. is it safe to assume that the forum started dying after banning countries where most of the active users are from? at this rate I don't see their forum recovering from it. it would just be a matter of time before the forum dies out or forums active daily users are almost non-existent.

I wondered how long the talk token thing was going to last. I'm surprised they continued with it as long as they did. I'm also surprised they've decided to keep flogging their dead horse. This'll get an uptick, but it'll be an uptick of the same old shit. Nothing's going to change. I still don't understand their aims or purpose.

They are bringing many shit coins and promo's for promoting their exchange so I am feeling they have same shit here but now their project about talktoken is taking some more time so just because of this now they are trying to have some changs in forum policy but its not going to help them as they already lost good traffic due to ban on many countries and now cutting in payments and going with weekly is also meaning they have to restrict this all and this could be ghost forum in near future.

I checked the new forum layout and payment system after a long time but there is no much improvement since last year. Hiding behind the money motivation just will increase the survival time and surely it is matter of time to see Cryptotalk will suffer from the good content. There is no interest to check this forum except making a few bucks, as you mentioned they blocked the main traffic from third world countries in order to protect their budget.

It doesnt have a future.Period.!

Going back into those days where this place had been flocked up by people who do just came here just because for the money without really having the real intention on giving out
contributions just like on what we do saw on bctalk. You would see lots of spams, plagiarized content etc. and when the time comes that they had stopped then it also stopped
people on visiting this site and now its not surprising for it to have some improvements if the owner alone can see if its relevant to do so.

that was the problem. their forum almost has no original content other than spams on their forum and what's worse is the pay per post motivation they instilled on the members who joined the forum. they could have done better managing their forum if they didn't offer pay per post to every member who joins their forum.

I think the problem is deeper than this.

If they were able to attract the business owners just like how they attracted the sig spammers, then it would have been a different story.

They are in a death spiral because no company other than yobit is willing to hire posters there.

If stake or primedice or i don't know some other casino was hiring signatures there, then it would be different.

The problem here is the lack of categories very few categories where posters can posts they cramp on few categories I have seen one thread generating hundreds of comments because, so many thread are redundant, for lack of topic to discuss, if they can add local boards which majority are requesting for a long time now, things will be better.

You will be surprise that they are getting a lot of new sign up almost every hour, I sign up there to check the inside of the forum, I have a hard time navigating the forum, I'm not familiar on their script, why the heck they are using a very poor script like invision when Vbulletin and SMF is the best choice for forum.
the forum's success lies on their token if this so called talk token did not take off it could be the end of their forum.

they banned countries which basically mean all the users from a banned country are not able to join the campaign. it would have been improving if they didn't ban but only pick the ones they see can put good contents on the forum. screen the posters and to see who could do the job and share.


there is no data regarding this talk token. if this is a defi token, there would be more users claiming for TALK to the moon shills soon but hope them success. having another platform still is good for cryptocurrency.

Yes!!  I was wondering whether cryptotalk was still going but didn't want to visit the site for fear of going cross-eyed from staring at the train wreck, which is what happened when I used to check in to see how bad it really was.  I'm glad this thread got bumped with an update.

No, Yobit definitely should not have created cryptotalk.  It was a stupid concept with poor execution and ultimately a bad outcome.  There was so much plagiarism and straight-out nonsense posts on there that I couldn't believe people would waste time trying to earn what little amount of bitcoin Yobit was offering the cryptotalk members.  I couldn't sit at a computer and try to write posts in Chinese for 1000 sats/post.  I'd be getting paid peanuts for doing work a monkey could do, and where's the satisfaction in that?

I cant say that paid per post campaign is a bad idea but they should have at least put up some limitation or number or participants plus the numbers of post required for week so that
their forum wont really be spammed out by useless post but somehow no matter what kind of marketing they would do. they cant just easily removed into the community
when it comes to perception towards Yobit which had been shady ever since it had operated.So you can anticipate that it would really gain less trust.

They claimed that this is an advertising token for their forum and those who would like to run a campaign or advertise on Cryptotalk must buy and Talk token and use it to purchase advertisement there, we will have to see if this talk token will be valuable if it turns out that it has no value then the members of this forum will stop posting here.

You are right about the content quality but I don't agree with the peanuts part.

1k sats/post is still big money for many people in many countries and it is huge when you can boost yourself with multiple accounts. Since the admins didn't really care about quality at that time, (they probably still don't) some people with no jobs probably made a few k's while it was running.

Getting a few dollars for absolutely shitposting wasn't the worst deal for the professional forum spammers. It was disastrous for yobit because they gained nothing from it.

Cryptotalk has a lot of shitposts being published everyday, that's a lot of trash to be cleaned up by mods, yep, if they are serious about their forum, they should have been atleast for a while, limit the maximum posts a user can post in day. Best choice is just to pick which users they will be paying according to their ranks, post quality, etc.


Cryptotalk is a forum made by Yobit. Yes they are paying their users per post but this is not guaranteed. Most of the users there are risking their time and effort since this is a 50:50 chance of earning good amount of money. Their talk token will surely get dumped as soon as their launch it to their exchange. So there is a big possibility that a lot of users there will get only small amount of money after waiting for how many months, posting on their forum not having fixed amount of payment. For me it is just considered as a bounty, where payments are most of the time not guaranteed (most only pays very small amount if converted to fiat).

The problem is, if they take these measures, then nobody would post in that forum because pay/quality rate is not good enough to attract good posters.

Right  now they can only attract spammers and they even fail at it.

I notice that there are some countries constrict from opening an account. I am wondering if any of you know the reason for banning those countries. What I state, meanwhile they took intense measures. However, I don't consider it to be a decent move.

You're correct, spammers are someways to bypass this for sure and trash banners will proceed.

because of abuse make by many users t belong to that country that's why admin decided to ban them instead of only one users they decided to ban a country since there are many users creating multiple account just to abuse the system and the campaign they have there before ,to earn more Satoshi.

They can remove the ban right now if they want  since they only paid users only in token unlike before that they paid them in btc .

Other reasons is its hard for moderator to track all the spammers of this forum and banned them is the easiest way they think will work and make the job easy.

They never try to bring some good quality on forum mostly they was working on traffic as they have their desired traffic then they do some changes and ban few countries just because of low quality but this move hurt them very badly and now they are doing something about quality but still fail to do some good as this is just spammers heaven nothing else mostly things without any good object ends like this.

It's really unfair they ban one country because they thought all the people there are spammers,  they should look at the individual capacity of every poster and not, in general, I was one of those included in the ban because of my country when looking gin the forum I have a lot of likes
in the forum and created a lot of threads, I was one of the casualties.

You should at least post up on english language for people to understand on what youre saying.This is a polish-language and id had translated via google trans.

"Bitcoin is not a currency for me as long as it makes no sense to pay for ice cream on the street with it. And it makes no sense because in such a transaction the question will always be who will lose or gain more - me or the Iceman. Bitcoin is an object of speculation so far, more like gold than currency. His fascination stems more from the crisis of confidence in state institutions than from his economic possibilities. The return to the yellow nuggets, this time in digital form, is the mocking laugh of history."

This is way too far of from the topic of simply an off-topic reply.

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On topic reply, is this forum still breathing?

Website is still alive, so I assume it's still breathing,  ;D

They can't afford to lose this site, they have invested so much money for the promotion and will just die, no, it might remain a bad forum but it will live.

That's the telling thing about it. If it went away right now no one other than the spammers hammering it would care in the slightest. It has made zero impact beyond them whatsoever. It is nothing other than a corpse with a few strings being pulled to give the illusion of life.

I can't see them changing their approach so it's going to continue absorbing money and achieving zilch. I would've pulled the plug a long, long time ago.

Well, yeah....cryptotalk.org basically scraped the bottom of the bottom of bitcointalk's barrel and recruited them to be the core community on the cryptotalk forum.  Anyone who's been a member here long enough to notice the shitposting problem could have predicted how that was going to turn out.

Did I just read that cryptotalk members are now being paid in some token instead of bitcoin?  That's something I didn't see coming, but I guess it shouldn't surprise me if it's true. 

OK, fair enough and I've argued the same thing when people say members are making peanuts on bitcointalk signature campaigns.  It all depends on where you live (and how you live).

Yes, the Cryptotalk breaths still :) For surviving, the new competitions have been launched but I still doubt the Cryptotalk will be successful in a short time. They increased the Talk token per post and relaunched BTC payments with different terms but they lost their rank after banning the third world countries, AFAIK. Scam gambling platforms heavily promote their service on ANN threads and new members have no idea what they promote.

They become a spam fest because they started on a wrong foot imagine giving 1 Bitcoin for the most number of thread and post after a specific date and holding a contest for the ten top posters so those who pioneered this forum are all spammers, and it still continuing until now.

It doesn't really cost anything to host that forum too probably since it has low activity. You know how the web-stuff is. It is always 0 before you start because the product doesn't exist yet. After you start it, it may or it may not gain visitors. Sometimes it takes long time before it gets recognized by many people. It is like buying a shitcoin. Maybe it'll become gold later on...ar least for a while.

And they dont have any plan to add other ways to earn for thier members  in that forum. if they do that there will be more people will visit that forum and not only those who want to earn from them by posting and completing the post  requirements. Even how  strict  they are in rules it will never change as long as the post that maje there is not a real discussion but a post to only earn  from them.

The new members post useless stuff and the admins don't care about the reported posts. If you check the "about forum" board of Cryptotalk, there are thousands of complaints against the working mechanism of the forum. Earning with positive ranked posts is harder than old days when the Yobit has paid for each single posts, that is why users don't like to get less reward for each post.

First, the team has said the Talk token will be traded on Yobit on 15 October but later decided to remove this post by admin. Looks like the Talk token trading will delay for another month, the BTC payments are still active for positive rating posts on Cryptotalk.

yobit is an exchange that only wants to make a profit even if it means destroying anyone else, I had to take some of my time just to be able to investigate this Free Dollars and talk Token story.

Yobit made dozens of people publicize yobit and crytotalk on social networks and when it was time to pay them they invented an excuse that people should make 100 post on the cryptotalk forum and now there is no date for people to receive this Free Dollars that has no technical data and you don’t even know what the purpose is and you don’t know if someone will buy

Yobit is also postponing the opening trade of talk token for months and I suppose it is because there is no one to buy talk token and yobit can no longer afford to pay people in bitcoin, I read the current rules for receiving payments in bitcoin and from what I understand the people are not receiving bitcoin payments as in the past.

This Free Dollars scheme is to be able to attract more new members and also gain free publicity

I have accept that the all other cryptocurrency forum has same goals, to make their forum as helpful and supportive as bitcointalk. They need to ensure they all are going the correct way and working together to constantly improve. Free Dollars scheme always attract users by any how, however this also attract the spammers as well which lead enforce restriction to those who violate the rules by posting nonsense. So, Cryptotalk is on the right way.

Yobit is very good in giving airdrops and free money but those receivers end up losing a lot, I have been a receiver of their pump and dump coin and I lose because of their pump and dump system in their platform, so the best thing to do whenever you received airdrop coming from Yobit is to just dump it and don't look back again, it will be good for you.

Dont see this to become gold for future years to come.Why? People will always have that thing in mind about Yobits reputation which is always tagged along with it and we know on how shitty and shady this exchange
is after all the years of its existence.

When the time comes where theres no reward neither btc or their own token then its anticipated that this will really be just good as dead.Theres no reason for you to stay on a place where
it is flooded by lots of spams and plagiarized contest came from other users who do just solely visit out this site for those pennies.

On the question if its still breathing then yes since its still online and it would be as long Yobit exchange do exist.

Under that circumstance no point of having those airdrop or even having an account their if that is the case and instead having the account in the best of the exchanges is much better atleast you are assured of your coins and do know that such dump coins might not get listed which may result in waste of time and money.

If the airdrops are made in bitcoin, ethereum and known stable coin it will be well appreciated. bitcoin reward was responsible for the hype around the campaign last time. I dont appreciate low value airdrop that does not look rewarding in forseeble months, UNI gave a better example of how an airdrop should look. Yobit does not look to be interested in users and increasing it, in the long years of existence they have not proven their presence