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Title: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: UNOE on January 14, 2020, 05:57:30 PM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: franky1 on January 14, 2020, 06:19:54 PM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect.
as you can see they are actually talking about rain, snow, shadows and evaporation.. the true reasons for land temperature changes.(water cycle not carbon)

below is just the upper atmosphere that does not have the same extent of causality of ground temperatures as water.
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With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?

.. anyway
different tree's in different climates can help
for instance small foliage tall trunk trees are better for the northern hemisphere.
where as large foliage for the equator

as for the carbon absorbtion (separate issue due to lung health) bamboo can be planted tighter together and traps more carbon per year than say an oak. and by harvesting and replanting keeps the location in an optimum carbon sink. due to most growth related to younger tree's than older trees.

if you imaging the wide diameter of a oak foliage and the multiple trumps of bamboo than can be planted in that same diameter. the maths makes bamboo better option

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the true cause of temperature rise is most water/rain ends up in drains and sewers and not just settling on land. thus less evaporation thus less clouds thus less rain thus drought

..
here is the big revealer.. when nasa studied terraforming the moon/mars they were not looking for carbon. they were looking for water. they know water is more important


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: akram143 on January 14, 2020, 07:02:05 PM
Planting trees can be never act as the deforestation we made for the last few centuries because it takes decades for a tree to get completely grown which could help the ecosystem to get stabilized but new plants and trees take underground water to grow which is another problem since most places already drought climbing up due to climate changes.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: UNOE on January 14, 2020, 07:06:39 PM
Should the extra CO2 make it easier for the plants to grow&expand?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Jet Cash on January 14, 2020, 08:18:17 PM
Saatchi id a globalist organisation, so of course they will try to reduce reforestation. Trees stabilise the land and help to resyore th groundwater that is needed for farming. At the moment, the glabalists are trying to reduce farming to create famine,

Don't let them win, plant a tree.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: bobitza on January 15, 2020, 02:33:45 AM
Growing greenery is really good for our planet. Planting trees helps to keep the air fresh and cool. Without greenery the environment will be polluted, people will breathe polluted air. Increasing disease, dangerous diseases. People should plant more trees to protect the environment.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: squatz1 on January 15, 2020, 05:56:49 AM
Yes. It is possible that planting trees is good for the planet because it actually is good for the planet. I made that as simple as possible because it seems that some of you are unable to understand basic science. This has been proved over and over. See all of the science stuff and articles from various news sources documenting that FACT.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting-billions-trees-best-tackle-climate-crisis-scientists-canopy-emissions
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/01/silver-bullet-to-suck-co2-from-air-and-halt-climate-change-ruled-out
https://apnews.com/8ac33686b64a4fbc991997a72683b1c5 - trillion trees, yes I know.

This is the simplest method we currently have to fight climate change, and who hates trees?

Most people know that trees are good for them. They absorb carbon dioxide, thus purifying the air for our breathing pleasure. Carbon dioxide is also one of the main greenhouse gases, which trap heat in the atmosphere, leading to rising temperatures and climate change.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Tash on January 15, 2020, 06:32:16 AM
When i die, i become a tree. It be a hard choice of which particular tree, oak, birch... but i think will settle for some kind of nut. :D
"Green cemeteries" is still in the start up phase and the burial of the body in embryo shape is not even legal in some countries.
https://www.capsulamundi.it/en/
Will certainly invest in a cemetery forest plot when available. Instead of wasting wood on coffin it rater be in a sacred forest.
https://i.postimg.cc/pXSnHzXq/Untitled.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: merchantofzeny on January 15, 2020, 07:32:39 AM
When i die, i become a tree. It be a hard choice of which particular tree, oak, birch... but i think will settle for some kind of nut. :D
"Green cemeteries" is still in the start up phase and the burial of the body in embryo shape is not even legal in some countries.
https://www.capsulamundi.it/en/
Will certainly invest in a cemetery forest plot when available. Instead of wasting wood on coffin it rater be in a sacred forest.

I'd prefer the cremated variant. I find the whole body under a tree a bit morbid. If this every becomes a thing in my country there's a change that the trees can get uprooted and expose the skeletons.

I'd prefer my ashes just scattered up the mountains to fertilize the forest but I see the benefit of sticking remains under a tree. It's no longer just a tree - it's a living remain of a loved one. That gives people more incentives to keep the tree alive.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: bhabygrim on January 15, 2020, 01:23:14 PM
I think that planting trees is actually good for the planet it would give us shelter and clean air.
If you could compare the air in a city with less tree and the countryside the air in country side is much more fresh and clean it is also colder in that area.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: akram143 on January 15, 2020, 01:55:53 PM
I think that planting trees is actually good for the planet it would give us shelter and clean air.
If you could compare the air in a city with less tree and the countryside the air in country side is much more fresh and clean it is also colder in that area.
It is because of pollution, is that tree helps to educe pollution of air?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Jet Cash on January 15, 2020, 02:19:39 PM
Apart from producing oxygen, and stabilising the water table,trees have other important functions. They provide homes for a variety of wildlife, and help to return minerals into the soil. Trees used to be used to clean the soil in decommissioned petrol filling stations, but it takes 20 or 30 years for the trees to do this naturally. Modern builders are not prepared to wait that long, so they cut down the trees, and build on the land. This means that the new occupiers of the land are poisoned slowly. Of course this helps to fund the big pharma companies.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: sovie on January 15, 2020, 04:34:56 PM
Tree's benefits are enormous, you can plant them without any fear of any side effects. The problem is we think too much for planting trees but no attention is paid while cutting these trees. There is no artificial way to fix the amount of carbon in the air, only trees can remove carbon from the air.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Jet Cash on January 15, 2020, 07:03:04 PM
The only downside  to trees is that people use leaf blowers to blow their leaves onto their neighbour's garden. Then the neighbour uses his leaf blower to blow them back. The lazy far gits should get some exercise, and pick up the leaves.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on January 16, 2020, 10:07:38 AM
I don't think it's realistic to simply rely on planting trees to reduce to co2 levels but having trees really have benefits. For me in a hot location, the biggest would be temperature control. Have enough of them in the right places and it could cut down on electricity used for cooling.

The only downside  to trees is that people use leaf blowers to blow their leaves onto their neighbour's garden. Then the neighbour uses his leaf blower to blow them back. The lazy far gits should get some exercise, and pick up the leaves.

First time I saw a leaf blower (I don't live in the US) I thought it was absolutely stupid and lazy. My same view on dishwashers. Like, would it kill you if you use your hands for 5-10 minutes?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: chaoscoinz on January 16, 2020, 11:01:59 AM
The article makes sense, I think we should wait a few years or so until the science and mathematics becomes more advance before planting a shit load of trees in a desperate attempt to resolve a green problem that we've haven't quite gotten to the root of yet (no pun intended). The technology is advancing, I know we need to at least prepare a temporary solution to at least alleviate the issue, while we spend the time advancing our sciences to a point that we can actually directly fix the problem.

Just my two cents!  :-\


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: gabmen on January 16, 2020, 02:19:57 PM
Well the simple answer to what the op asked is obviously yes. Though i doubt that what's indicated in the article will actually happen. We're expanding our structural and industrial growth, hence we won't have that much space to plant trees on to have that effect that the article mentioned. For me, just plant when and where you can.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on January 16, 2020, 02:58:16 PM
The article makes sense, I think we should wait a few years or so until the science and mathematics becomes more advance before planting a shit load of trees in a desperate attempt to resolve a green problem that we've haven't quite gotten to the root of yet (no pun intended). The technology is advancing, I know we need to at least prepare a temporary solution to at least alleviate the issue, while we spend the time advancing our sciences to a point that we can actually directly fix the problem.

Just my two cents!  :-\

Wait a minute. You mean we might or might not have some huge global warming problem and we don't even know if planting trees is good?



Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: panganib999 on January 16, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
The article makes sense, I think we should wait a few years or so until the science and mathematics becomes more advance before planting a shit load of trees in a desperate attempt to resolve a green problem that we've haven't quite gotten to the root of yet (no pun intended). The technology is advancing, I know we need to at least prepare a temporary solution to at least alleviate the issue, while we spend the time advancing our sciences to a point that we can actually directly fix the problem.

Just my two cents!  :-\
We don't need a sht load of trees, we just need to plant trees. That's it. Even a single tree per person alive is already quite a lot imo. Just like how having none or little is bad, having too many may also be bad for the ecosystem. Also, the tech advancement you're saying is the cause for problems that are arising in the ecosystem, and the tree plantings are the ones that are solving it lmao. If it stopped, I'd say that any type of fix done after that period of time would need hundreds of years before it could take into effect. We can plant trees while finding for a direct fix imo, no need to stop doing such because we don't know it's effects, as long as we regulate it, I'd say all is fine.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on January 16, 2020, 10:50:17 PM
The article makes sense, I think we should wait a few years or so until the science and mathematics becomes more advance before planting a shit load of trees in a desperate attempt to resolve a green problem that we've haven't quite gotten to the root of yet (no pun intended). The technology is advancing, I know we need to at least prepare a temporary solution to at least alleviate the issue, while we spend the time advancing our sciences to a point that we can actually directly fix the problem.

Just my two cents!  :-\
We don't need a sht load of trees, we just need to plant trees. That's it. Even a single tree per person alive is already quite a lot imo. Just like how having none or little is bad, having too many may also be bad for the ecosystem. Also, the tech advancement you're saying is the cause for problems that are arising in the ecosystem, and the tree plantings are the ones that are solving it lmao. If it stopped, I'd say that any type of fix done after that period of time would need hundreds of years before it could take into effect. We can plant trees while finding for a direct fix imo, no need to stop doing such because we don't know it's effects, as long as we regulate it, I'd say all is fine.

Has anyone ever told you that trees sort of plant themselves? It's pretty cool how it works, too. Humans may plant the wrong ones, but nature sees to it that the right ones live in every single spot.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: UNOE on January 18, 2020, 06:23:01 PM
Yes. It is possible that planting trees is good for the planet because it actually is good for the planet. I made that as simple as possible because it seems that some of you are unable to understand basic science. This has been proved over and over. See all of the science stuff and articles from various news sources documenting that FACT.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting-billions-trees-best-tackle-climate-crisis-scientists-canopy-emissions
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/01/silver-bullet-to-suck-co2-from-air-and-halt-climate-change-ruled-out
https://apnews.com/8ac33686b64a4fbc991997a72683b1c5 - trillion trees, yes I know.

This is the simplest method we currently have to fight climate change, and who hates trees?

Most people know that trees are good for them. They absorb carbon dioxide, thus purifying the air for our breathing pleasure. Carbon dioxide is also one of the main greenhouse gases, which trap heat in the atmosphere, leading to rising temperatures and climate change.

I'm sorry, but news isn't a credible source.
And everything that's written is widely known but it doesn't change the fact that trees make the Earths surface darker and cause it to absorb more heat and increase the global temperature. Whether or not the decrease in CO2 will counter the effect is not known.
And that's from NASA, not from Washingnton Post.

The only literate reply so far was franky1 and I appreciate that, others are just mambo-jambo fed to you with no facts.
It is true that foliage in certain areas won't make the surface darker, but not in every area.
Planting trees in some areas might prove itself harmful for the Earths temperature.

Apart from producing oxygen, and stabilising the water table,trees have other important functions. They provide homes for a variety of wildlife, and help to return minerals into the soil. Trees used to be used to clean the soil in decommissioned petrol filling stations, but it takes 20 or 30 years for the trees to do this naturally. Modern builders are not prepared to wait that long, so they cut down the trees, and build on the land. This means that the new occupiers of the land are poisoned slowly. Of course this helps to fund the big pharma companies.

Planting monocultures can completely destroy the native cultures.

Well the simple answer to what the op asked is obviously yes. Though i doubt that what's indicated in the article will actually happen. We're expanding our structural and industrial growth, hence we won't have that much space to plant trees on to have that effect that the article mentioned. For me, just plant when and where you can.

There's plenty of space to plant. The question is should we..


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: KennyR on January 19, 2020, 03:16:54 AM
The need for timber keeps counting even when more and more alternative things have come into usage. When we cut a tree for our need, we need to plant a tree. This will keep the ecosystem stable. Around the globe the ground water level has decreased drastically. Some cities have gone out of water and in few cities zero water day is announced and people are adviced to use water in a limited manner. So, in one way or other planting trees is good for the planet.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: KingScorpio on January 19, 2020, 04:57:03 AM
there is this startup from the EU,

that is producing protein out of CO2 dense air

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/15/Solar-Foods-makes-protein-out-of-thin-air-This-is-the-most-environmentally-friendly-food-there-is

this will solve in the long run the so called climate crisis


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: keeee on January 19, 2020, 12:57:33 PM
The need for timber keeps counting even when more and more alternative things have come into usage. When we cut a tree for our need, we need to plant a tree. This will keep the ecosystem stable. Around the globe the ground water level has decreased drastically. Some cities have gone out of water and in few cities zero water day is announced and people are adviced to use water in a limited manner. So, in one way or other planting trees is good for the planet.
I agree,  we really need more trees to be honest because we get something from it.  It gives oxygen that all livibg things need.  We made paper through it. From the bush fire that happened to different countries especially in australia, we lost lot of trees and by that we need to recover it so have to plant more so that future of earth will be a good and survive more.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on January 19, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
there is this startup from the EU,

that is producing protein out of CO2 dense air

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/15/Solar-Foods-makes-protein-out-of-thin-air-This-is-the-most-environmentally-friendly-food-there-is

this will solve in the long run the so called climate crisis

No. Co2 is at the bottom of the energy ladder.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: darkangel11 on January 19, 2020, 03:56:24 PM
When i die, i become a tree. It be a hard choice of which particular tree, oak, birch... but i think will settle for some kind of nut. :D
"Green cemeteries" is still in the start up phase and the burial of the body in embryo shape is not even legal in some countries.
https://www.capsulamundi.it/en/
Will certainly invest in a cemetery forest plot when available. Instead of wasting wood on coffin it rater be in a sacred forest.

I'd prefer the cremated variant. I find the whole body under a tree a bit morbid. If this every becomes a thing in my country there's a change that the trees can get uprooted and expose the skeletons.

I'd prefer my ashes just scattered up the mountains to fertilize the forest but I see the benefit of sticking remains under a tree. It's no longer just a tree - it's a living remain of a loved one. That gives people more incentives to keep the tree alive.


That was my thought as well. Think of a hurricane coming by and the next day people walking down the street see a row fallen trees with human bones between the roots.
I'm sure they'd start making horror movies about tree spirits and stuff on a grand scale.

I like trees and we should have more of them especially if you think of the rate at which we are losing them. Australia lost so many trees that it will take decades to replant them.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Subbir on January 19, 2020, 04:31:40 PM
Planting trees is good for our environment but even after we know many times we cut down trees and destroy the environment. We also know that nature gives us oxygen even then we destroy nature for meaning, Despite knowing everything we are calling ourselves a danger.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: coolcoinz on January 19, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
This is a very easy question. Planting trees is always better than not planting them. Think of how the planet would look like if we weren't exploiting its resources. Just like cities in all those apocalypse movies where the jungle takes over and animals roam the streets. You could pretty much see it in I am legend and you can see it if you to to visit the lost ancient cities in South America.
Since we are destroying plant life we should do something to restore them.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: GideonGono on January 20, 2020, 07:47:57 AM
Planting trees is good for our environment but even after we know many times we cut down trees and destroy the environment. We also know that nature gives us oxygen even then we destroy nature for meaning, Despite knowing everything we are calling ourselves a danger.

By the population do increase, the resources we need is totally increasing too. By the non-added and rotating cycle of this world we couldn't easily claim the resources we need. We can't totally add more place to live soon unless from leaving our planet but soon we can see the future full of problems in our planet.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 20, 2020, 08:06:01 AM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?

I really don't understand these our scientists. One day they are coming with the fact that deforestation is the reason why the air is not of good quality to breathe in and then they suggest that planting trees would solve the problem and the world began the planting of the trees even to the extent that we have a world planting tree day. Now, coming up with this means that they are saying we got it all wrong and we are even causing more damage with tree planting. It seems there is no way to please the ozone layer.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: quarkfx on January 20, 2020, 10:42:04 AM
yes it is green nature increases , cutting plants as affected the natural cycle of rain water , and flooding , air cycles and , several places are turning in to desserts and non of the people wants to leave there lack of water , rain and weather will not be suitable


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: kro55 on January 20, 2020, 11:17:38 AM
Trees have any side effect? I guess there are none but there advantages are many. Shade, breading place for birds, provides fresh air and absorb carbon along with other toxic gases. Everyone of us should make a resolve to plant as much tress as he/she can. 


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Tash on January 20, 2020, 11:33:47 AM
Is creating dopey threads in forum actually good for the planet?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Sadlife on January 20, 2020, 01:27:15 PM
Tree planting is always been beneficial to our earth. Here's why, as we all know trees can be useful in various ways. It produces the air we need by a method called photosynthesis that absorb heat then converts it to oxygen. Also trees is used to make papers, one example books that is used for entertainment, knowledge and also trees are home for various kinds of animals. So i dont see why not we should not plant trees.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: UNOE on January 21, 2020, 01:49:16 AM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?

I really don't understand these our scientists. One day they are coming with the fact that deforestation is the reason why the air is not of good quality to breathe in and then they suggest that planting trees would solve the problem and the world began the planting of the trees even to the extent that we have a world planting tree day. Now, coming up with this means that they are saying we got it all wrong and we are even causing more damage with tree planting. It seems there is no way to please the ozone layer.

That's because 'scientists' aren't 1 person.

Is creating dopey threads in forum actually good for the planet?

Depends how the electricity is made.
If it's nuclear, then it isn't harmful.
If it's coal, then it increases CO2 which some would deem harmful.

Tree planting is always been beneficial to our earth. Here's why, as we all know trees can be useful in various ways. It produces the air we need by a method called photosynthesis that absorb heat then converts it to oxygen. Also trees is used to make papers, one example books that is used for entertainment, knowledge and also trees are home for various kinds of animals. So i dont see why not we should not plant trees.

It doesn't absorb heat, it absorbs CO2.
CO2 is apparently a good heat conductor.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: gabmen on January 21, 2020, 06:52:16 AM
Tree planting is always been beneficial to our earth. Here's why, as we all know trees can be useful in various ways. It produces the air we need by a method called photosynthesis that absorb heat then converts it to oxygen. Also trees is used to make papers, one example books that is used for entertainment, knowledge and also trees are home for various kinds of animals. So i dont see why not we should not plant trees.

It' good for us humans. The things that you've mentioned benefits us so yeah, if you think about it, planting lots and lots of trees is a pretty good idea. The planet doesn't us to do that. Once we've been shrugged off of the earth, this planet can grow trees on it's own without our help.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Negotiation on January 21, 2020, 07:41:20 AM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: clickerz on January 21, 2020, 09:04:09 AM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?

I really don't understand these our scientists. One day they are coming with the fact that deforestation is the reason why the air is not of good quality to breathe in and then they suggest that planting trees would solve the problem and the world began the planting of the trees even to the extent that we have a world planting tree day. Now, coming up with this means that they are saying we got it all wrong and we are even causing more damage with tree planting. It seems there is no way to please the ozone layer.

Even with so many efforts for tree planting, it is still not enough due to overpopulation high mortality rates. We cant catch up and we continue harming our environment. But thanks to these efforts of caring for our mother nature through this initiative, people become aware and being educated of the effects of abusing our environment.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Lecam on January 21, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.
Yes planting tree is very important to our environment its really big help especially to the flood. And we need more tree because it's help to absorb heat and big help to us also to prevent the fresh air.
Its really big help to us for disaster and to build home also many uses of tree so tree is very important to us so we need more plant tree for our own good.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: senne on January 23, 2020, 07:08:04 AM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?

Trees absorb carbon dioxide and potentially harmful gasses, such as sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, from the air and release oxygen. One large tree can supply a day's supply of oxygen for four people.Trees create an ecosystem to provide habitat and food for birds and other animals. Also , they keep the surroundings cold.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: d.kevin29 on January 23, 2020, 07:18:14 AM
Even with so many efforts for tree planting, it is still not enough due to overpopulation high mortality rates. We cant catch up and we continue harming our environment. But thanks to these efforts of caring for our mother nature through this initiative, people become aware and being educated of the effects of abusing our environment.

I don't mean to say we're not affecting our environment, but are we really the ones polluting the air around us & creating a toxic atmosphere?

There are bombs constantly being tested. Underwater or in the middle of nowhere, it does not matter. The amount the average human being contributes to pollution is nowhere close the damage these tests are doing to our environment. I've always thought about it. Imagine how much pollution and damage a nuclear bomb underwater test does to the water we're swimming in and drinking. Let's not even mention the earthquakes and everything else.

And then we come back to my pollution for using my car on a not even daily basis for 3-mile distances once every few days.

We're going to start using EVs instead of gas-powered cars and we're going to plant millions or even billions of trees. This will help the environment. But what about the tests I mentioned above? These nuclear weapons of mass destruction will only continue to become even more powerful, even more harmful to the world. Nature will not forgive that and we will go through hell once nature decides to take its revenge.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Tash on January 23, 2020, 02:27:43 PM
Even with so many efforts for tree planting, it is still not enough due to overpopulation high mortality rates. We cant catch up and we continue harming our environment. But thanks to these efforts of caring for our mother nature through this initiative, people become aware and being educated of the effects of abusing our environment.

I don't mean to say we're not affecting our environment, but are we really the ones polluting the air around us & creating a toxic atmosphere?

There are bombs constantly being tested. Underwater or in the middle of nowhere, it does not matter. The amount the average human being contributes to pollution is nowhere close the damage these tests are doing to our environment. I've always thought about it. Imagine how much pollution and damage a nuclear bomb underwater test does to the water we're swimming in and drinking. Let's not even mention the earthquakes and everything else.

And then we come back to my pollution for using my car on a not even daily basis for 3-mile distances once every few days.

We're going to start using EVs instead of gas-powered cars and we're going to plant millions or even billions of trees. This will help the environment. But what about the tests I mentioned above? These nuclear weapons of mass destruction will only continue to become even more powerful, even more harmful to the world. Nature will not forgive that and we will go through hell once nature decides to take its revenge.
Are you trying to say Hiroshima and Nagasaki will be uninhabitable for the next few hundred thousand years?
Start using electric vehicles? Electric vehicles exit for over 100 years, long before gas powered once.
You know a very simple effective way of pollution, reduce the power of your car by half and instantly have cut pollution in half.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: UNOE on January 23, 2020, 04:39:24 PM
Even with so many efforts for tree planting, it is still not enough due to overpopulation high mortality rates. We cant catch up and we continue harming our environment. But thanks to these efforts of caring for our mother nature through this initiative, people become aware and being educated of the effects of abusing our environment.

I don't mean to say we're not affecting our environment, but are we really the ones polluting the air around us & creating a toxic atmosphere?

There are bombs constantly being tested. Underwater or in the middle of nowhere, it does not matter. The amount the average human being contributes to pollution is nowhere close the damage these tests are doing to our environment. I've always thought about it. Imagine how much pollution and damage a nuclear bomb underwater test does to the water we're swimming in and drinking. Let's not even mention the earthquakes and everything else.

And then we come back to my pollution for using my car on a not even daily basis for 3-mile distances once every few days.

We're going to start using EVs instead of gas-powered cars and we're going to plant millions or even billions of trees. This will help the environment. But what about the tests I mentioned above? These nuclear weapons of mass destruction will only continue to become even more powerful, even more harmful to the world. Nature will not forgive that and we will go through hell once nature decides to take its revenge.
Are you trying to say Hiroshima and Nagasaki will be uninhabitable for the next few hundred thousand years?
Start using electric vehicles? Electric vehicles exit for over 100 years, long before gas powered once.
You know a very simple effective way of pollution, reduce the power of your car by half and instantly have cut pollution in half.

The thing about EVs is that to make them you need Lithium, and producing Lithium pollutes more than a life-cycle of an average diesel car.
Sure, they don't pollute on the road, once they're made.
But how do you make the Lithium?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: ubercool on January 23, 2020, 04:48:57 PM
Frankly speaking If you think of global warming or worsening of environment then rather than planting trees, we need to stop using fossil fuels and start using reusable energy sources. Planting trees on different places of the world is not a small idea or even a faster solution to do. And it's definitely good for the planet to do in Long term as it cools the climate and creates more positive elements. 


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: inanilujimi on January 24, 2020, 02:03:11 AM
of course trees are very beneficial to our planet.
There are many benefits of trees, among others
- a good oxygen contributor to every living thing
- storing water in the soil for the needs of living things.
- able to reduce air pollution made from vehicles.
and many more benefits of trees for life.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: djsugar on January 24, 2020, 08:13:55 AM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?
Planting trees is very important for mother Earth and also to support all kind of race. It not only keeps check of O2 and CO2 in system but also keeps reduces harmful gases. Also, it provides habitats to many animals , bear fruits and also keeps earth colder. It also checks deforestation and kee checks on ground water.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Negotiation on January 24, 2020, 08:59:41 AM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.
Yes planting tree is very important to our environment its really big help especially to the flood. And we need more tree because it's help to absorb heat and big help to us also to prevent the fresh air.
Its really big help to us for disaster and to build home also many uses of tree so tree is very important to us so we need more plant tree for our own good.

Yes, you are right that is why we should plant more and more trees Trees protect our environment and are essential to life. Many times we are protected from disasters because of trees.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: UNOE on January 24, 2020, 06:40:19 PM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.
Yes planting tree is very important to our environment its really big help especially to the flood. And we need more tree because it's help to absorb heat and big help to us also to prevent the fresh air.
Its really big help to us for disaster and to build home also many uses of tree so tree is very important to us so we need more plant tree for our own good.

Yes, you are right that is why we should plant more and more trees Trees protect our environment and are essential to life. Many times we are protected from disasters because of trees.

How do trees protect us from disaster?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: d.kevin29 on January 24, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
How do trees protect us from disaster?

Trees are actually a very good way to protect earth from natural disasters. They're mostly useful in landslides and flooding, as they're strengthening the soil and preventing them from happening. The most important part is, though, imo the fact that they produce oxygen... before protecting ourselves from oxygen, we must assure the vital functions of our bodies.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: KingScorpio on January 25, 2020, 05:05:48 AM
there is this startup from the EU,

that is producing protein out of CO2 dense air

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/15/Solar-Foods-makes-protein-out-of-thin-air-This-is-the-most-environmentally-friendly-food-there-is

this will solve in the long run the so called climate crisis

No. Co2 is at the bottom of the energy ladder.

not for plants, they eat CO2 to extract the Coal out of it


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Negotiation on January 26, 2020, 08:30:55 AM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.
Yes planting tree is very important to our environment its really big help especially to the flood. And we need more tree because it's help to absorb heat and big help to us also to prevent the fresh air.
Its really big help to us for disaster and to build home also many uses of tree so tree is very important to us so we need more plant tree for our own good.

Yes, you are right that is why we should plant more and more trees Trees protect our environment and are essential to life. Many times we are protected from disasters because of trees.

How do trees protect us from disaster?
Trees protect us from natural disasters in many ways such as in areas where the number of trees is high disaster damage is less. Many poor people are saved if the impact of the disaster goes on the trees and the loss of property and houses is reduced. Also, the tree increases the fertility of the soil.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: GideonGono on January 28, 2020, 04:39:30 PM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.
Yes planting tree is very important to our environment its really big help especially to the flood. And we need more tree because it's help to absorb heat and big help to us also to prevent the fresh air.
Its really big help to us for disaster and to build home also many uses of tree so tree is very important to us so we need more plant tree for our own good.

Yes, you are right that is why we should plant more and more trees Trees protect our environment and are essential to life. Many times we are protected from disasters because of trees.

How do trees protect us from disaster?
Trees protect us from natural disasters in many ways such as in areas where the number of trees is high disaster damage is less. Many poor people are saved if the impact of the disaster goes on the trees and the loss of property and houses is reduced. Also, the tree increases the fertility of the soil.


There are a lot of benefits by the trees specially the food that are healthy to eat. What I think for now is how about creating a tree house? It can reduce the capacity to cut trees by doing that but that was too hard to create and to wait until the trees would grow.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Negotiation on January 29, 2020, 09:08:26 AM
I agree with you that we all know that planting trees is good for our planet We take oxygen from the tree and the tree protects the balance of our environment. Even so, we cut down the tree and called our own danger Many times the tree protects us from disaster.
Yes planting tree is very important to our environment its really big help especially to the flood. And we need more tree because it's help to absorb heat and big help to us also to prevent the fresh air.
Its really big help to us for disaster and to build home also many uses of tree so tree is very important to us so we need more plant tree for our own good.

Yes, you are right that is why we should plant more and more trees Trees protect our environment and are essential to life. Many times we are protected from disasters because of trees.

How do trees protect us from disaster?
Trees protect us from natural disasters in many ways such as in areas where the number of trees is high disaster damage is less. Many poor people are saved if the impact of the disaster goes on the trees and the loss of property and houses is reduced. Also, the tree increases the fertility of the soil.


There are a lot of benefits by the trees specially the food that are healthy to eat. What I think for now is how about creating a tree house? It can reduce the capacity to cut trees by doing that but that was too hard to create and to wait until the trees would grow.

You just said it is very difficult to build and wait until the trees grow but this is why we need to plant more if we cut a tree. The number of trees should not be reduced which is what we get from the tree which is essential for our survival. Along with food I get oxygen.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: CoinLover79 on January 30, 2020, 03:10:08 PM
There is no harm in planting trees. Just see the temperature where there is no temperature vs area which is covered by tree. You will see a marked difference.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Tash on January 30, 2020, 03:28:09 PM
There is no harm in planting trees. Just see the temperature where there is no temperature vs area which is covered by tree. You will see a marked difference.
Buildings and Roads act like massive storage heaters, forest is the best air-conditioner.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on February 01, 2020, 02:32:55 AM
There is no harm in planting trees. Just see the temperature where there is no temperature vs area which is covered by tree. You will see a marked difference.

Okay, so where I live everywhere I go my shoes are crunching up acorns dropped by all the big trees. Now I think those are like, seeds, right? The trees drop them and they turn into more trees?

Now why should I plant trees?

Not only that. Why shouldn't I cut down trees?

Now I promise to only cut down trees where there is already green leafy stuff of one type or another growing. Can anybody explain why I should not cut down trees?

To answer this requires calculating all the effects in that regions bio of that species of tree versus the alternatives which would naturally arise to take its place. And in fact, every tree you plant will remove something else that is alive and growing there.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: franky1 on February 04, 2020, 07:58:46 AM
planting tree's is good. but its not the only solution and its definetly not the sole thing people should do because tree's alone would need to be planted multiple times the land space of the land. if it was just to be done for the 'carbon offset'

what needs to be done is to not think of a whole world problem but a regional problem.
for instance the northern hemisphere/europe will get colder while the equator will get warmer

things like desalinating sea water can be used to rehydrate land and find a replacement for natural sources of rivers.
heck even desalinate water and put it through a snow blower(it freezes water to make snow) to recover and cool down places like the arctic

other things like making deserted land into ponds/oasis. infact even make them into seaweed farms and algae ponds.
for better carbon capture than tree's

as for methane.
the stupid thing is they try to blame cow burps yet the real methane risk is from industrial oil/gas which can be replaced with renewable energy.

other things can be done like sending a couple large empty container ships to haul in the plastics in the ocean gyres where they grab the plastic using other ships/tech and the cargo ships are the large 'bucket' to collect it all.

as for tree's
well once land is de-forested. farmers use the land for crops and after time when the land is depleted they just leave it as desert and deforest another piece of land and repeat.
the solution is that the deserted land should be renovated back to life and not just left.
same for coal/gold mining, owners need to have an exit plan that includes putting the land back to how it was.
(this is tough because most corps will just file bankruptcy to escape obligations) but something needs to be done

different tree's in different locations help for different reasons. and as i said even things like seaweed and algea has a purpose to

there can been tall thin fast growing tree's for more rban area's and slow but wide folliage for other area's.
the main problem aint just cutting tree's its also not replacing them once they are done with the land.

as for habitation for animals. well that needs work too.. it aint just about plant tree's and walk away. its about know what tree's to plant, why and what for


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on February 04, 2020, 07:23:40 PM
.. it aint just about plant tree's and walk away. its about know what tree's to plant, why and what for

Reminds me of the millions of acres of farmland devastated by improper crop rotation.

Conclusion: Randomly planting random tree species in random places has almost a zero chance of being "good for the planet."


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: aiguy on September 06, 2020, 05:38:53 AM
yes, of course, it a good for the planet because more tree means rain, which makes the environment clean , the temperature will be down. And the big advantage is, it will save the ozone layer


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Mauser on September 06, 2020, 07:49:57 AM
yes, of course, it a good for the planet because more tree means rain, which makes the environment clean , the temperature will be down. And the big advantage is, it will save the ozone layer

I agree with you, planting trees helps the planet to regenerate.

One good way to save the planet would be for every tree that is getting destroyed in fires, or used for construction, a new tree would need to be planted again.

We should look after our planet more and try to leave it in a better place for our children.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 12, 2020, 03:47:24 PM
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/

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Key questions scientists will need to address are how global reforestation might affect Earthís surface albedo (reflectivity) and evapotranspiration. In the near term and locally, says Saatchi, forest restoration may actually have a warming effect. As the trees mature, the new forest canopy cover would presumably make Earthís surface albedo darker, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere during periods of snow cover, causing it to absorb more heat. Increasing forest cover, particularly in the tropics, will increase evapotranspiration, causing a cooling effect. With Earth already warming significantly due to greenhouse gas emissions, will forest reforestation on a global scale have a net warming or cooling effect on our planet, and will the benefits of reforested areas absorbing more carbon outweigh their increased heat absorption?

And that's where tax money goes? To "scientific" who are against trees? I mean this guy must have a personal vendetta... like an allergies from tree pollen...


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: squatz1 on November 12, 2020, 03:52:21 PM
.. it aint just about plant tree's and walk away. its about know what tree's to plant, why and what for

Reminds me of the millions of acres of farmland devastated by improper crop rotation.

Conclusion: Randomly planting random tree species in random places has almost a zero chance of being "good for the planet."

I mean, trees are 'good for the planet' but it's not as good as doing other things. If we were to transition to using more nuclear energy and less fossil fuels, that would be amazing for the planet.

Planting trees in bulk is just easy and cheap to do. People throwing $20 at some site that'll plant trees in areas is much easier then convincing them to make meaningful change in their life. But ya know, that's life, lol. Planting trees is pretty low hanging fruit compared to what can be done.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 12, 2020, 04:09:45 PM
.. it aint just about plant tree's and walk away. its about know what tree's to plant, why and what for

Reminds me of the millions of acres of farmland devastated by improper crop rotation.

Conclusion: Randomly planting random tree species in random places has almost a zero chance of being "good for the planet."

I mean, trees are 'good for the planet' but it's not as good as doing other things. If we were to transition to using more nuclear energy and less fossil fuels, that would be amazing for the planet.

Planting trees in bulk is just easy and cheap to do. People throwing $20 at some site that'll plant trees in areas is much easier then convincing them to make meaningful change in their life. But ya know, that's life, lol. Planting trees is pretty low hanging fruit compared to what can be done.

there are a lof trees around Tchernobyl... you can't cut them :) and if you burn them, they release cesium and other nice non atmosphere warming component.. soon too around fukushima, there will be many trees...

but you know they don't like to mention trees... otherwise they would have to talk about deforestation on a scale never seen before... look at russia, brazil, indonesia, central africa... cut > money > farm > money.

and then the deepness of the earth vegetal "crust" or layer is reduced... what they call canopy... a soy field is very small (height wise).


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Twinkledoe on November 15, 2020, 07:45:30 AM
yes, of course, it a good for the planet because more tree means rain, which makes the environment clean , the temperature will be down. And the big advantage is, it will save the ozone layer

I agree with you, planting trees helps the planet to regenerate.

One good way to save the planet would be for every tree that is getting destroyed in fires, or used for construction, a new tree would need to be planted again.

We should look after our planet more and try to leave it in a better place for our children.

As I've read recent news that some countries are experiencing flash floods, I can say that, planting trees will help at least lessen the situation of flash floods. So yes, it is good for the planet and may actually save lives if catastrophic events occur owed to denuded forests and the likes. We need to save forests before it is too late for the humanity.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: virasog on November 15, 2020, 08:47:26 AM
Plating trees is always good for the nature and our health. There are countries when planting days are celebrated and everyone is encourage to plant one tree. It really surprised me seeing few comments from people that plating tree is not a healthy activity.
I think everyone should plant alteast one tree in his life.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Dorodha on November 15, 2020, 11:25:37 AM
Due to climate change and deforestation the country is suffering from heavy rains temperature fluctuations and storms. has been urged to plant more trees and increase forest cover. But due to our unawareness and lack of love for trees the number of trees in the country is declining. The storm is being damaged in the rain we have to save the tree for ourselves. All the responsibility of proper care and growth of the tree is ours. So it is very important for us to be aware of this. Trees are man's friends not slaves man and tree complement each other. So let's love the tree take care not only of planting trees but also of caring for and growing trees.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Mauser on November 15, 2020, 03:12:13 PM
Due to climate change and deforestation the country is suffering from heavy rains temperature fluctuations and storms. has been urged to plant more trees and increase forest cover. But due to our unawareness and lack of love for trees the number of trees in the country is declining. The storm is being damaged in the rain we have to save the tree for ourselves. All the responsibility of proper care and growth of the tree is ours. So it is very important for us to be aware of this. Trees are man's friends not slaves man and tree complement each other. So let's love the tree take care not only of planting trees but also of caring for and growing trees.

I agree with you, almost all countries are experiencing more extreme weather in the last 10 years. Saying that the climate is not changing is wrong. We can all help to fight the climate change right now, instead of waiting until its too late. Planting trees is a good solution to help the climate to recover to normal levels. In highly populated areas it might be difficult to find appropriate areas. But we could plant trees in very remote areas.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: coolcoinz on November 15, 2020, 06:03:20 PM
One more thing came to my mind, as OP has pointed that some areas might become colder. If the climate is really getting hotter due to global warming it shouldn't be a problem if trees would make it colder, am I right? Also, do we really need deserts? If some of them became a bit colder thanks too trees and possibly a bit more moist, it wouldn't be so bad, especially when we think of the entire globe. It might make deserts more habitable.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 15, 2020, 08:55:42 PM
...Planting trees is a good solution to help the climate to recover to normal levels. In highly populated areas it might be difficult to find appropriate areas. But we could plant trees in very remote areas.

Might want to discuss that with our friends "down under," in Australia?

Hint: Look up "Invasive species."


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Crptomagma on November 17, 2020, 04:38:52 PM
Planting trees is essential to the earth because the role or importance of trees to man cannot be over emphasized.
Man and animals needs plant to survive as they can be used for food, agriculture, timber, symbolic uses and art. In time of erosion the availability of trees help to control erosion and washing away of soil nutrients. Plants are used for making of ornaments for beautification. Plants are used for furniture making and basic domestic tools. Itís would be great ecologically friendly if we practice more of afforestation than deforestation.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: cdtc on November 17, 2020, 05:37:38 PM
Of course that planting trees is good for the planet and it is so obvious that there is no explaining it.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Renampun on November 17, 2020, 06:22:54 PM
as far as I know, that's good, because the tree's job is to keep the heat from the sun...
try to pay attention to areas that have a few trees will definitely feel hot. planting more trees can prevent global warming which is getting worse every year, if the trees are cut down and not planted again, global warming will accelerate, thus making the ice in the north and south poles melt faster.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 17, 2020, 06:40:50 PM
One more thing came to my mind, as OP has pointed that some areas might become colder. If the climate is really getting hotter due to global warming it shouldn't be a problem if trees would make it colder, am I right? Also, do we really need deserts? If some of them became a bit colder thanks too trees and possibly a bit more moist, it wouldn't be so bad, especially when we think of the entire globe. It might make deserts more habitable.

You do know, I hope, that deserts are complete ecosystems?

Here in the USA we have created pretty nice cities right in the middle of deserts. I can think of at least three examples, Palm Springs, Las Vegas, Tuscon.

IIRC it was the widespread use of air-conditioning in homes that made this possible.

....
and then the deepness of the earth vegetal "crust" or layer is reduced... what they call canopy... a soy field is very small (height wise).
I'm not sure about a precise definition of earth's "vegetal crust" but you are wrong there. For a tree, the woody parts are essentially dead tubes, except for the inner bark layer. The green at the top is what's of interest, and if one stripped that and weighed it, would it weight more or less than a soy field?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 21, 2020, 11:54:25 AM
A great tree to grow indoor, is the lemon tree ! It provides yield :).


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 21, 2020, 04:33:04 PM
A great tree to grow indoor, is the lemon tree ! It provides yield :).

YES! Or a little tree with both lime and lemon grafted on.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 21, 2020, 04:55:04 PM
A great tree to grow indoor, is the lemon tree ! It provides yield :).

YES! Or a little tree with both lime and lemon grafted on.

That's what's expected from the bitcoin world :). Maybe add oranges too?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 21, 2020, 07:57:36 PM
A great tree to grow indoor, is the lemon tree ! It provides yield :).

YES! Or a little tree with both lime and lemon grafted on.

That's what's expected from the bitcoin world :). Maybe add oranges too?

I'm not an expert in this, but I would expect limes and lemons to be very productive. An orange it seems would steal nutrients and water sufficient for a half dozen limes and lemons. Or if oranges, then something small from that family, like mandarins.

These trees are usually grafted one root system another top, so it's no big deal to get two or three or more different things on one root system.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: ileikmath on November 21, 2020, 08:46:03 PM
As some users have pointed out, planting trees is good (no surprises there), however, it's going to take a lot more than just planting trees to mitigate and reverse some of the effects from climate change. Another user pointed out those trees depend on groundwater to grow and with droughts worsening as a consequence of climate change just planting trees alone will do no good for the planet. We need a combination of different strategies ranging from planting trees, building carbon sucking plants, cutting carbon emissions down to zero, and other forms of geoengineering and environmental action.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 22, 2020, 05:13:48 PM
As some users have pointed out, planting trees is good (no surprises there)...
Others have pointed out contrary facts.



Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: AbbyS on November 23, 2020, 10:38:10 PM
we chop too much, all the planting we do does not represent a fraction of what we chop
and thus animals go extinct


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: gagika on November 24, 2020, 12:16:07 AM
"Yes,cause it serve as the barrier when flood occur"


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: BADecker on November 24, 2020, 12:58:07 AM
Is planting trees actually good for the planet?


Of course it's not, lol. Planting trees will help reduce CO2, which will reduce global warming, which will allow people to survive and the population to grow. This isn't helping Bill Gates at all, lol.


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Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: AbbyS on November 24, 2020, 01:30:30 AM
Is planting trees actually good for the planet?


Of course it's not, lol. Planting trees will help reduce CO2, which will reduce global warming, which will allow people to survive and the population to grow. This isn't helping Bill Gates at all, lol.


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commmon ... poor bill gates , vilified , while the real villain zukerburg play the dumb


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 24, 2020, 02:02:35 AM
commmon ... poor bill gates , vilified , while the real villain zukerburg play the dumb

I had not thought of that connection, that's a good one.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 24, 2020, 02:13:18 AM
as far as I know, that's good, because the tree's job is to keep the heat from the sun...
try to pay attention to areas that have a few trees will definitely feel hot. planting more trees can prevent global warming which is getting worse every year, if the trees are cut down and not planted again, global warming will accelerate, thus making the ice in the north and south poles melt faster.

CO2 could rather easily be taken out of the atmosphere at the South Pole. Six months of winter there, the temp hovers in the mid -70s. The freezing point of co2 is -108F.

Hence a simple blower and an expansion Venturi would have co2 dropping out as snow. Or skip the blower and use the force of the adiabatic winds.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Natsuu on November 24, 2020, 05:45:12 AM
Planting trees is good, yes it really is, but the real challenge is nurturing.

Thousands of people and organizations can conduct tree planting activities, then leave it afterward. This scenario often happens in regions with a large scale of illegal logging activities, yet we can't see significant results with this process. Because 90%+ of the trees they planted will die due to lack of nutrition, water, and any other factors.  :D


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Mauser on November 24, 2020, 08:56:30 AM
Planting trees is good, yes it really is, but the real challenge is nurturing.

Thousands of people and organizations can conduct tree planting activities, then leave it afterward. This scenario often happens in regions with a large scale of illegal logging activities, yet we can't see significant results with this process. Because 90%+ of the trees they planted will die due to lack of nutrition, water, and any other factors.  :D

I learned that a well constructed forest doesn't need a lot of nurturing. The key to a healthy forest is a minimum distance between trees. So when planting trees its important to not put them too close to each other. They will take all the things they need from the soil. And if trees are to close to each other their competition for soil.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: franky1 on November 24, 2020, 10:02:53 AM
The thing about EVs is that to make them you need Lithium, and producing Lithium pollutes more than a life-cycle of an average diesel car.
Sure, they don't pollute on the road, once they're made.
But how do you make the Lithium?


drill a hole (electric drill in future will be common  not diesel)
water pumped in then pressures brings out a 'brine'(alkali Salt) solution
reverse osmosis or just left to evaporate the water in a settling pond for a while
skimming/scraping the lithium layer

EV trucks(in the future) or electric pumps and pipes transport the condensed brine(skimmed/scraped layer).
electric powered factories run by renewables then do chemical separation
oh. they actually put carbon into the mix. meaning they are not evaporating carbon out but putting carbon into lithium. so good place to store carbon
...
dont worry they dont use millions of gallons of diesel in digger trucks. ..its a drill and a pump method
so less carbon waste than gold mining for instance

(1 ounce of gold uses $300 of JUST diesel)
(1 ounce of lithium costs well under $0.30 of ALL production costs)


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 24, 2020, 12:50:38 PM
I learned that a well constructed forest doesn't need a lot of nurturing.
Like the ones nature puts various places all by itself.

FYI each of those trees might sequester 80 lb of co2, so to offset a human you'd need several hundred.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on November 24, 2020, 01:20:58 PM
Planting trees is good, yes it really is, but the real challenge is nurturing.

Thousands of people and organizations can conduct tree planting activities, then leave it afterward. This scenario often happens in regions with a large scale of illegal logging activities, yet we can't see significant results with this process. Because 90%+ of the trees they planted will die due to lack of nutrition, water, and any other factors.  :D

I learned that a well constructed forest doesn't need a lot of nurturing. The key to a healthy forest is a minimum distance between trees. So when planting trees its important to not put them too close to each other. They will take all the things they need from the soil. And if trees are to close to each other their competition for soil.
Indeed. When we plant trees there should be at least 3 feet of space because if it is planted very close to other trees they will compete for the water, soil nutrients, and sunlight that one of the trees might not be healthy and could die. It is why volunteers in tree planting only plant limited trees depending on the lot scale of the forest.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Maestro75 on November 24, 2020, 06:04:57 PM

The way water is important to life and mankind, it is the same way trees are too. This is because trees help produce oxygen as they take man's wasted carbon dioxide in replacement. Areas with much trees are always cooler than those without trees, that explains it. The planet needs enough oxygen to keep it going and to this more trees.


Planting trees will help reduce CO2, which will reduce global warming, which will allow people to survive and the population to grow.

Yes, it helps in regulating the warnness of weather and keeps at check global warming. We can not emphasize this point enough too.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: cabron on November 24, 2020, 06:48:21 PM


Why is planting a tree not a good thing now?

Of course, it's good. Nature is always the best to take care of the earth. Reforestation helps the water from rainforests to sink below the ground preventing it to drain down to rivers to the ocean. If it's the cycle of water that they are trying to restore, planting trees is a must.



Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: BADecker on November 24, 2020, 09:42:23 PM
Is planting trees actually good for the planet?


Possibly. But Terraforming planets is certainly good for the trees.


 :D


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 25, 2020, 02:31:39 AM


Why is planting a tree not a good thing now?

Of course, it's good....
No, it's not.

Planting cactus is good.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: franky1 on November 25, 2020, 02:54:05 AM
funny how nasa wants to know about the water cycle in regards to off world settlements. they are not talking about carbon

funny how nasa use hydrogen for their radiation/heat shield.. not carbon

hint
be concerned more about water. not carbon


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 25, 2020, 10:54:12 AM
I am not that convinced about this forest planting theory. Trees do absorb carbon from the atmosphere. But they store the carbon in their wood and release it when they die. Also, in my area I have seen a lot of grasslands being converted to artificial forests. They are disrupting the natural ecology by doing this. The ecosystem that existed earlier won't be able to survive once the trees are planted.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 25, 2020, 12:49:25 PM
I am not that convinced about this forest planting theory. Trees do absorb carbon from the atmosphere. But they store the carbon in their wood and release it when they die. Also, in my area I have seen a lot of grasslands being converted to artificial forests. They are disrupting the natural ecology by doing this. The ecosystem that existed earlier won't be able to survive once the trees are planted.

It's interesting how on this thread many have asserted the goodness of planting trees, but not one has made an effort to prove it.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: franky1 on November 25, 2020, 01:07:15 PM
maths..
it will take more available fertile land than that is available to offset the current carbon emmisions

the tree's however only work best if they are in reach of the area that has carbon emmissions
EG smoggy london vs brazilian rainforest mass in 1800 did not help each other.

so although there are less brazilian rainforests now. does not mean london is any worse.

london smog got better by getting rid of wood/coal burnong homes and replacing it with gas heated waterheaters

yep buy buy chimney sweep industry due to removing the emissions not by trees

however smog(excess carbon) did not cause global warming. london was colder during its smoggy history
so much so the river thames froze over

..
so again as a reminder. for climate issues. its not about carbon. its about the water cycle.
carbon emissions is a separate category concerning lung health


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on November 25, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
If you accept the theories of science that describes trees to be a recycling agent as well as providing homes for the variant species available then yes, planting of trees does help a great deal.

You tend to base your arguments on trees producing canopies which in turn brings about increased heat on the soil surface, this is very much not true. The rays from the sunlight hits the leaves of these trees which has formed into a canopy to provide some sort of soil cover and are not reflected due to the nature of the leaves having some level of moisture content hence, it provides a cooling effect on the soil. This explains why, beneath a tree in a tropical rainforest, shrubs and grasses tends to strive more as they are not exposed much to direct sunlight.
Again, should it be that, the soil experience some level of heat, you might as well know that, there are themophilic bacterias which requires some level of heat to strive in the humid soil of that environment and deforestation could result in caking up the soil and as such, won't be very beneficial to these bacterias.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Natsuu on November 29, 2020, 03:06:41 PM
I am not that convinced about this forest planting theory. Trees do absorb carbon from the atmosphere. But they store the carbon in their wood and release it when they die. Also, in my area I have seen a lot of grasslands being converted to artificial forests. They are disrupting the natural ecology by doing this. The ecosystem that existed earlier won't be able to survive once the trees are planted.

It's interesting how on this thread many have asserted the goodness of planting trees, but not one has made an effort to prove it.

This is probably because, of the generality of this information about the benefits of trees in human lives and environments. So the assumptions that people made in this thread are most probably based on that information. In addition, some of the ideas given in this thread are from personal experiences.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: aioc on November 29, 2020, 03:38:07 PM
It is and every citizen of this planet with fertile soil should be obliged to plant trees, trees are very important a lot of floods are caused by lacks of trees, we need a lot of trees because illegal logging is on the rise they are cutting trees for money, it's very important to our ecosystem without them we are doomed.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Spendulus on November 29, 2020, 04:42:05 PM
I am not that convinced about this forest planting theory. Trees do absorb carbon from the atmosphere. But they store the carbon in their wood and release it when they die. Also, in my area I have seen a lot of grasslands being converted to artificial forests. They are disrupting the natural ecology by doing this. The ecosystem that existed earlier won't be able to survive once the trees are planted.

It's interesting how on this thread many have asserted the goodness of planting trees, but not one has made an effort to prove it.

This is probably because, of the generality of this information about the benefits of trees in human lives and environments. So the assumptions that people made in this thread are most probably based on that information. In addition, some of the ideas given in this thread are from personal experiences.

Speaking as someone who has planted hundreds of trees, and carefully observed which lived, which didn't and why, I'm not convinced that the average person "planting trees because it's a good thing" does anything other than waste their time.

Now if they want to learn something, they can all start digging holes under my direction.

Why did the room get empty so suddenly?


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: franky1 on November 29, 2020, 07:37:11 PM
tree's benefit carbon, benefit human lungs
tree's benefit the lumber industry

when lumber companies can plant tree's at no cost due to donations/grants from charity/government. it makes them instant profit at time of chopping them down and turning them into planks a couple decades later

here is some factual carbon stats
normal rainforests per hectare: absorb ~40tonnes of carbon. release 7tonnes of oxygen
oil palm plantation per hectare: absorb ~60tonnes of carbon. release 18tonnes of oxygen

this is because palm oil requires different amount of hydrocarbons/carbohydrates.

so when you pay some environmental charities to plant high carbon absorbing high oxygen releasing plants. the money can end up in the deforestation companies that turn old rainforests into palm tree plantations. because yep. good for human lungs.

some then argue its destroying natural habitats for tribes and wildlife. but thats another debate aside from the carbon one

..
its much like paying carbon tax.. where funds end up as 'R&D' funds for fossil companies to pay for conversion to renewables. yep examples of UK national grid allience are not paying for renewables out of their own profits, not out the goodness of their hearts. government funding and grants pay for their conversions


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Natsuu on December 07, 2020, 11:54:14 AM
~SNIP~

This is probably because, of the generality of this information about the benefits of trees in human lives and environments. So the assumptions that people made in this thread are most probably based on that information. In addition, some of the ideas given in this thread are from personal experiences.

Speaking as someone who has planted hundreds of trees, and carefully observed which lived, which didn't and why, I'm not convinced that the average person "planting trees because it's a good thing" does anything other than waste their time.

Now if they want to learn something, they can all start digging holes under my direction.

Why did the room get empty so suddenly?

As someone who happens to also experience that planting tree drives. Planting trees doesn't end in just planting a seedling in a forest/mountain. The real thing about this is how to nurture and cultivate those trees. I am not a fan of those planting thousands of trees in one day just for the commercialization of it, and fact that they think they actually help. But instead, only 1/8 or less of those trees can lived due to lack of nutrition in soil and many other aspects.

The people who brag about their planting of 100's etc. are most likely a social climber who want to make themselves feel highly just because they think they made an awesome change for their surrounding.

On the other hand, there are many people who actually made time to nurture seedlings in forest and sees them grow. I actually watched a person in the Philippines, who plant hundreds of trees, and nurtured them but can't search the news article for it.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: BADecker on December 09, 2020, 03:06:59 AM
Is planting trees actually good for the planet?


It depends on what percent of them survive the planting.


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Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Crptomagma on December 09, 2020, 06:19:42 AM
The. Importance of tree to the environment are enormous both from it abiotic and biotic factors. Environmentally Trees 🌲 beautify environment and gives it colorful look. In time of environmental disasters trees help is controlling erosion and leaching, trees help to control excessive wind. Trees brings shade and makes the surrounding cool in hot days. Lots of good medicine have been discovered some special trees and the herbs help in saving lifeís. Trees are used for beautification and itís also supply man with oxygen to breath.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Mauser on December 09, 2020, 08:05:38 AM
The. Importance of tree to the environment are enormous both from it abiotic and biotic factors. Environmentally Trees 🌲 beautify environment and gives it colorful look. In time of environmental disasters trees help is controlling erosion and leaching, trees help to control excessive wind. Trees brings shade and makes the surrounding cool in hot days. Lots of good medicine have been discovered some special trees and the herbs help in saving lifeís. Trees are used for beautification and itís also supply man with oxygen to breath.

I agree with you, Trees are important for all of us and everyone can feel the difference. Especially this year again we had the highest temperatures in years in my country. Being in the forest instead of the city makes such a huge difference to climate. We feel much better and can relax more than staying in the city during summer.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: sort_cirkit on December 11, 2020, 06:59:28 PM
Trees are our closest friends. It protects our ozone layer as well as regulates the weather. Take a look at the Amazon rainforest in Brazil. By burning it we have dripped the heart of the weather. Then the COVID-19 invaded our hearts. It is not possible to benefit by harming anyone. The importance of the tree should be realized by everyone after this.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on December 14, 2020, 07:01:47 PM
Speaking as someone who has planted hundreds of trees, and carefully observed which lived, which didn't and why, I'm not convinced that the average person "planting trees because it's a good thing" does anything other than waste their time.
I believe botanist are the best at what ways and soil is best for a tree special and the best care that could be given to it and you might be a botanist yourself, I don't know that so I won't want to comment on that either but then, I don't so much agree with the idea that an average person planting trees is just a waste of time.

If it is about the fact that, planting non native species or invasive species could be harmful to the vegetation of that environment and in turn the environment itself, that I would understand but then, should native species be planted, even if it didn't get to grow to its full potential, for the years it did grew and persisted, it surely helped as cover crop, air cycles (Carbon, nitrogen etc) and shelter for aboral and terrestrial animals including the microbes so, it did help and it isn't a total waste of time.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Natsuu on December 16, 2020, 11:23:39 AM
Speaking as someone who has planted hundreds of trees, and carefully observed which lived, which didn't and why, I'm not convinced that the average person "planting trees because it's a good thing" does anything other than waste their time.
I believe botanist are the best at what ways and soil is best for a tree special and the best care that could be given to it and you might be a botanist yourself, I don't know that so I won't want to comment on that either but then, I don't so much agree with the idea that an average person planting trees is just a waste of time.

If it is about the fact that, planting non native species or invasive species could be harmful to the vegetation of that environment and in turn the environment itself, that I would understand but then, should native species be planted, even if it didn't get to grow to its full potential, for the years it did grew and persisted, it surely helped as cover crop, air cycles (Carbon, nitrogen etc) and shelter for aboral and terrestrial animals including the microbes so, it did help and it isn't a total waste of time.

A botanist really would be an expert, but you won't expect them to plant as many trees for the environment itself, they are busy doing their researches about plants, discovering something, and many more. A lot of documents and articles can be easily found in the internet, and you don't need a degree for that.

What I am going through with this is that anyone can plant trees and make it work for the environment, it is just that if they really care about the planting itself, they would go through the ways on how to nurture it, how to plant it, the distance needed between them.

But aside that, I agree that trees are really helpful, if that is what just this thread is asking.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 16, 2020, 03:09:35 PM
One neglected aspect of arboriculture is the treatment of "dead" trees. When a tree can no longer stand on its own roots, and it falls to the ground, it should be left to decay naturally. This allows beetles and other creatures to find food and homes, and the activities of fungi help to maintain a healthy soil balance.


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Crptomagma on December 17, 2020, 07:00:55 AM
Planting trees is very important as itís gives the earth green effects. Plants plays lots of economical roles to man.
Planting trees gives the environment beautiful look and helps in controlling heavy winds and erosion


Title: Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet?
Post by: Chrystora123 on December 17, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
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Benefits of planting trees for health and the environment

1. Make the air fresher
2. Maintain mental health
3. Reducing exposure to UV rays to the skin
4. Reducing the impacts of climate change
5. Prevent water pollution
6. Increase groundwater reserves
7. Maintain the population of living things
8. Prevent flooding
9. Prevent soil erosion

carbon dioxide & oxygen has nothing to do with trees because the oxygen and carbon dioxide levels in the earth are fixed (can't increase or decrease)..