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Title: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: akagi82 on January 16, 2020, 07:53:18 AM
Hi Folks.

Could someone point me in the right direction for mining containers, preferably built out of china and CSA&UL Certified.  Looking for current generation compatible (Antminer, innosilicon).

Thanks.


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: Steamtyme on January 16, 2020, 04:08:00 PM
This topic pops up from time to time. I've never bought or needed one or heard how any perform. Here is a canadian company that comes up in a search i think there was another as well.
https://www.powerhousegroup.com/crypto-cryptopod-mining-container-bitcoin-blockchain-canada-facility-datacentre-datacenter
Here is a previous topic from last year that had a few options.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122822.0


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: akagi82 on January 20, 2020, 02:51:24 AM
Thanks for your reply.  For future readers, the first option, I called them up and they were unable to give me a cost for a container...  I think they have done this before, but are more in the consultation business.


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: wndsnb on January 20, 2020, 12:38:15 PM
I don't have any experience with them, but these guys sell containers and are in the USA.

https://miningstore.com/


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: akagi82 on January 20, 2020, 11:15:56 PM
Thanks for the recommendations.  For future readers:

Kontena has gotten back to me promptly, and they have useful information such as unit cost.

Powerminingfarm  has costs listed.

bitmain antbox has costs listed too.

The biggest questions are

1) is electrical compliant for operating country
2) what else is needed to get mining container operational (besides miners)


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: Biffa on January 21, 2020, 12:13:24 PM
Off the top of my head you could start with:

1. Power supply and transformer hooked into the grid
2. Internet connection
3. The Land to put it on where
 a) The above services can be supplied at low cost
 b) It is secure from intruders/theft/crime/etc
 c) no-one is going to be bothered by the noise


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: Steamtyme on January 21, 2020, 01:18:23 PM
Your biggest factor is going to be stable consistent electrical being provided. Next is the hurdle of getting it approved and installed, this can take a lot of time so you may want to get the ball rolling on that first once you've narrowed down your location. This is something you haven't really spoken about. Do you have a space already and how do you plan to monitor and maintain the farm? This dictates the level of security and noise considerations you need to make. The internet connection needs to be stable and reliable, downtime due to this is a killer for tight margins, especially because some gear no longer powers down on it's own when it loses the connection.
Think about the general weather year round and how you can use that to your benefit (Cold climate), or how it may negatively impact your gear (Hot year round).

Good luck


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2020, 02:13:54 PM
Your biggest factor is going to be stable consistent electrical being provided. Next is the hurdle of getting it approved and installed, this can take a lot of time so you may want to get the ball rolling on that first once you've narrowed down your location. This is something you haven't really spoken about. Do you have a space already and how do you plan to monitor and maintain the farm? This dictates the level of security and noise considerations you need to make. The internet connection needs to be stable and reliable, downtime due to this is a killer for tight margins, especially because some gear no longer powers down on it's own when it loses the connection.
Think about the general weather year round and how you can use that to your benefit (Cold climate), or how it may negatively impact your gear (Hot year round).

Good luck

Humidity is an issue and living near saltwater is also an issue.


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: akagi82 on January 25, 2020, 07:27:44 PM
Thanks for your replies everyone,  for people following and interested:

Regarding containers:
bit5ive: no hot isle, a real problem for cold climates, on cold resetarts where u would want to divert warm air to warm down units so that they can start... No real filter
kontena: looks like bitmain clone, a bit more expensive than bitmain, but more flexibility for miner choice and install.  Crazy high quality looking filter
bitmain: hard to get any meanful answers out of them, they seem to be cUL / UL certified, therefore insurable easily.

Will check some more... any working experience with any containers please add.

characteristics of power:
-25000kv, 3 phase power, we are going to drop it to 416 for the container as that seems to be the standard...
-*important* (low voltage) power bumps are possible, all bitmain units seem to have the probability of temporarily lose hashboards during these events, and remedial action is to phsyically unplug, replug the units... remote reboot doesn't seem to help (anyone have a solution?)

climate: cold, very cold.  Dryish,  Bitmains latest units will not start colder than -2c or so (as shown in kernal log), it does an internal check on temperatures, and stops the boot up process. not sure where this probe is, but you could have a unit with a warm hash boards that u want to reboot, but rebooting it remotely could cause this check to fail and then u have need manual intervention, and then this causes a headache...  No such problem with innosilicon boot up sequence.

internet: yes
secure and appropriate facility: yes


Title: Re: Recommended Mining Containers for North America / Canada. CSA&UL Certified
Post by: PassThePopcorn on February 05, 2020, 02:05:47 PM
You could try Digital Shovel
tg: @Digital_Shovel

For remote controllable PDU's you can get them from tg: @MattMinerShill, full smart PDU's on each outlet with metering support they should be able to do 24 S9's per PDU easily and Digital Shovel should be able to incorporate them into the containers if you so choose.