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Title: Looking for the best solution
Post by: ShowOff on February 07, 2020, 04:26:15 PM
Dear forum member, I want to tell you a little about how I feel so far. After I was disqualified from the cryptotalk campaign by the manager because many of my posts were classified as spam, I decided to change my posting habits for the better (maybe only I said). Since then my post behavior began to change and I really wanted to promote something in my signature and avatar fields. I started to register and register for several campaigns on the board service because I was tired of promoting altcoin bounty which ended up being scam and unprofitable and it was a waste of time.

I have sent at least 5 or 6 of my applications to be considered in a different campaign, but no manager is willing to accept me as a participant. This is what made me decide to find a solution from you about what I should do.

  • Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
  • Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
  • Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?

I want to hear all of your suggestions and solutions, this is not just because my hopes were not reached to join the campaign. But I really want to be a useful person for every post I make just like you. I know that I am not a good poster, but after getting moral guidance from my local members, I was warned and guided to change those bad habits so that are useful and at least not to make the forum into a trash can anymore and I will try to change it as time goes by. Thanks.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: kawetsriyanto on February 07, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
You can ask the bounty manager, but I think it is not really necessary. If a bounty manager didn't accept you, it can be about these reasons:
- There are other members better than you, while the slots are limited. You are not lucky enough to be selected.
- You don't fulfill the requirements, ex: earn 5 merits in 120 days, wear the signature/avatar/personal text when you are applying.
- They look for a specific poster, ex: poster on gambling.

Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
It is about your habit. You must make it into habit, always create quality posts. A bounty manager will take a look on most your post history, not only on the first page. So, if you just start to create quality posts when you want to join a campaign, it is likely hard to be accepted.

Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?
Just change your habit and no need to be afraid. If you think you deserve to join on a campaign, just try to apply, why not.


>Come on, be optimistic, bro!! Show them that you are a good man.  ;)


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 07, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Man, you're not bad at all. I was saw your post recently, your post not a low quality, spam, or plagiarism. Don't be sad when you not get accepted by campaign manager, try it another time or find another signature campaign if still have a slot.
I think to get accepted in signature campaign the requirement is :
1. The campaign main rules
2. Active and high quality poster (both english and local)
3. Have some merit in last 120 days
4. Trusted account

I saw you get rejected in blender.io signature campaign, I think it's because on September-December you're not active and have 12 post only. At least 20-40 post for a month is good and can be categoried active users. No offense, I do not mean I'm more knowing and good than you. I only member and new about this forum, still want to learn more about bitcoin. Sorry if it makes you unhappy

  • Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
  • Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
  • Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?

1. Yeah you can ask, feel free to express in this forum whatever you want. The thing to remember is don't ever break the rules.
2. Yes you must, because not only you want to joining the campaign. You will may faced a lot of member will participate (expecially high paid). The best of the best users will get accepted
3. No, since you don't get any negative trust, you will able to participate in every campaign you want. Just be active poster and apply in every campaign, i wish you will join these campaign.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: UserU on February 07, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
Fret not, I've been rejected countless times before being accepted into a campaign. That was way back when I was still a newbie.

Still, not joining doesn't mean the end of the world. Of course getting paid to post is a no-brainer, but there are like others competing for the same thing.

Don't forget, most CMs do check post history so you might wanna cool off for a while by posting normally for like a week or two.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: JeromeTash on February 07, 2020, 05:16:53 PM
Most campaign managers prefer selecting people who have been active for the past few months.

There are so many members who apply for the campaigns so it's not a guarantee that when you apply, you will be selected. Look at the rules of the campaign before applying.
Some managers prefer participants who post in gambling sections, other need people who have earned some good amount of merits in the last 120 days. So, check you self.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Mastery on February 07, 2020, 05:53:13 PM
Dear forum member, I want to tell you a little about how I feel so far. After I was disqualified from the cryptotalk campaign by the manager because many of my posts were classified as spam [...]
Looking on your post history, I see a lot of posts on "Altcoin Discussion" board. This board is well-known as a place for spamming and post-farming. Besides, your posts in this board are usually one or two lines in length only. Maybe that's why the manager of cryptotalk rejected you.

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Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
Yes, you should. Normally, bounty requrements are mentioned in the annoucement. If they aren't or you are rejected for unclear reasons, you absolutely should ask the manager. Knowing a manager's requirements, you can improve yourself and join their following bounties.

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Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
Improving post quality is a good thing but if you just improve post quality for bounties, then don't. Like @kawetsriyanto said, you'd rather make it a habbit. You have many more benefits when contributing quality to the forum. Take a look at Advantages of engaging in quality contributions on the forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137241.msg50817197#msg50817197) by CryptopreneurBrainboss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052091).

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Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?
Don't! Even you are not accepted anymore by any manager, don't give up on you. Your effort will be recognized and awarded deservedly. There are a lot of Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100307.0), in which they admitted themselves "shit posters" but they changed and became high ranked, respectful members. Changing to become better is never too late.

In conclusion, I think you're being distracted by signature campaigns. The best solution is improving yourself first: join quality discussion and give your opinion. Good thing is your English is excellent, providing that you're an Indonesian (I guess).


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Findingnemo on February 07, 2020, 06:38:04 PM


  • Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
  • Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
  • Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?


Campaign manager has rights to choose anyone to be a part of their campaign but most managers will tell you the reason why you didn't get accepted but don't get butthurt and start hating them which will reduce the chances of that manager's future campaigns.

If you got too many posts applying for campaigns then the manager might have get a feel like you are here only for making money so don't apply on too many campaigns in a row, apply on one or two and wait for the results but don't stop posting once you applied for a campaign.

Every one deserves chances and even those listed on blacklists by managers will get chances after the cooling time period ends. You can read lot of rank up stories from people who labeled as shit posters earlier.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Quickseller on February 07, 2020, 09:12:27 PM
You should improve your posts before trying to join a new campaign. Establish a history of putting in a decent amount of effort into your posts.

You don't need to write a book for each of your posts, but you should put in some effort into thinking about what you want to say, and actually writing your post.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: jademaxsuy on February 07, 2020, 09:21:27 PM
It also depends on the rules of the campaign. If the campaign manager check your posts history and if you are not qualified ir fullfill the requirements then the more likely you won't be accepted. If you are talking about signature ad campaigns the participants slots are limited and first come first serve. The best thing to do when you start is to change yourself like how you post and get accepted later on.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Goodvalony on February 07, 2020, 10:29:01 PM
This might be wrong but one of the criteria for acceptance into signature campaign here is your merit. the more merit you have, the more your changes are high and the merit as we all know signified that you have contributed immensely wonderful in this platform. it is also a proof that you post have changed tremendously. KEEP IT UP. 


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: 20kevin20 on February 07, 2020, 11:26:04 PM
Hey man, I've been in the same boat and one of the problems I usually have with sig campaigns is that I've been placed on yahoo's SMAS list years ago and that's pretty much an irreversible thing.

I have to live with it though, I was a shitposter but hopefully the change I've made to my posting quality and style and all the efforts I'm trying to make for the better of this forum compensate the mistakes I've made in the past.

I looked through the SMAS list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545652.0) and you're there too. Some campaigns or campaign managers use this list as a first step when checking a participant's profile, hence if the participant is on SMAS, they're out without a doubt. Sometimes you can see even on the campaign OP whether they do/do not accept SMAS users.

Therefore, your username on the list + the long gap on the history of your posts have most likely been the deciding factor of your sign campaign applications.

The best you can do is just keep being active and show the forum what you're capable of. Improve your post quality.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 07, 2020, 11:39:57 PM
At least you didn't do anything stupid to get yourself banned. That means that you still have a chance to change.

The people already told you, you(in the forum) actually is your post history, you can't escape it, but you can change it.
There are so many different things you can do to improve. Meke sometimes significant, something that will make you learn new things, like setup a full node, set up a lighting node on top of it, open some channels, make a guide how the newbies can install Epochtalk,make a video lesson, generate a vanity address, learn and ask questions and you'll see that later the campaign managers will prefer you instead of the others. You will be the top candidate, trust me.

Remember,
In order to receive something, you need to give(do) something as well. If you really learn something, then share it with the others. You will only benefit from it.
It's not as easy as the one-liner posts but it benefits you in may ways,
You improve yourself, you make some profit from what you learned, you find friends here and you improve your writing style for sure :)


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: ShowOff on February 08, 2020, 01:46:41 AM
There is only one word that is very appropriate for all of you, thank you for was willing and give me the best solution that you are trying to explain to me. That is why I am very confident that this community is very strong, helping each other, supporting, and directing each other towards better and not only in my local board but in the global board also I do not lack solutions and support.

I know you all are good posters, your writing is very useful, helpful, directing each other and it is very difficult for me to be like you all. But I am grateful that I still have a chance to change, and I do not want you to change me exactly as you do because I know that a The teacher can educate his students to become teachers or more than that, but he cannot make his students exactly like him.

I have got the best solution so far from you, only time can answer and I am optimistic that I will get a good chance if I can change it. May you all receive a fair reward for your kindness and your thoughts at another time. Thank you for everyone.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on February 08, 2020, 02:45:16 AM
I checked your post dude.. Nothing's wrong or any sort of spam looking even on your response. Dont be discourage if some managers are ignoring you, its not that you are a bad poster but some managers have hogh standard or they have some preference which users to accept. Also it will depend on the board you are usually hanging out. If your active in gambling section there are some manager prefer posting there and some are on local boards like current application on Chipmixer. DS prefer local poster and maybe next time some other boards.

I myself often got ignored with some campaign but its okay dude.. Time will come and someone will hire you, youre not the only one having the same problem. You are a high rank just prove them wrong by continue posting quality topics or helping any newbies on some inquiry.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Subbir on February 08, 2020, 02:53:23 AM
Relaxing will offer you an honest chance and never let it ruin your self-esteem If you're frustrated at work, don't let it hold you forward. There are many rules for working in forums that they ought to attempt to post. and therefore the site where you participate within the work has many rules they're going to look good then join.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Wexnident on February 08, 2020, 04:08:53 AM
Uhh just my opinion, your sentence constructions seems a bit off? Maybe that's why they avoid/not hire you. Some of your posts have nice grammar structure and all, but some lack the finesse that a proper post should have. Plus, your currently a hero member so it might just be unlucky since the ones fighting for hero member slots MIGHT be a lot better than you. Note the word "might" okay?

Also, you should probably try posting in other parts of the forum. Most of your recent posts were all in Altcoin discussions, which may have affected their decision of hiring you. Other than that, there's nothing to nitpick on. You have quite a lot of recent merits acquired, and you're a solid poster everyday, so yup. Just wait, someone should be able to appreciate your posts sooner or later.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: skarais on February 08, 2020, 05:09:16 AM
We have known beforehand that you will feel overwhelmed at first as we have said on the local board. Sorry for not intending to offend you. :D You have to keep trying friend, dont give up. If you havent been accepted into the campaign then I think its not just you. There are still many others who might have fared worse than you because they are unable or have no intention to change.

Because you realize that you made a mistake before because your post history and so on want to change so I see you have changed pretty well so far. Its just that you are still not active enough to post and maybe that will be a problem for you. You must have consistency of posts whether you use signatures or not, and therefore you will have a better chance because in addition to your activities in the forum, the consistency of posts will also be considered by the manager.

  • Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
  • Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
  • Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?
1. Yes, you can ask, if it will help you see flaws and fix them going forward.
2. Yes, this is the main thing for you. When you can make a quality post then you are included in the category of a good poster and you will get the benefits, it could be merit.
3. LOL, that is a frustrating form. This is something you should avoid. Think positive and keep moving in a better direction because it will make you have a very pleasant posting habit if you succeed later.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: AakZaki on February 08, 2020, 08:23:17 AM
You ask again about this on the global board, friend?
Is not a question like this already done on the local board or because it has not produced results or suggestions from friends on the local board does not make sense?

Ok, I will try to give advice again here, before I have given advice to you to delete the registration post on the campaign that does not accept you and you have done that.

Immediately, try to see the history of your posts.
1. It seems that your posts do not show posts that are consistent in the sense that your posts are not active every day.
2. Try to register in a campaign that has a smaller payment, at least it can make you excited to post every day.

Because as good as any of your posts but rarely done every day, then it will be assessed as an inactive participant.
Try to make a minimum of three posts every day with good quality and do it consistently.  I am sure you will get what you want soon.  Keep the spirit alive, my friend.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: ShowOff on February 10, 2020, 01:10:31 PM
-snip-
Not because of my dissatisfaction with the answers you gave in the local board bro, but I just want to get more support and motivation when I want to change my bad habits so far and go to something more useful.
You are right, I should try to post something useful that is consistent. Maybe this is what made managers not give me a chance so far and I realized it. Thats my weakness because I dont post consistently every day.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: rosezionjohn on February 10, 2020, 01:23:37 PM
Points for consideration:

1. Increase your activity and post even when you are not wearing a signature. I looked at your first page history and noticed the post gaps. It seems like you are only active when you are getting paid. Maybe that's another thing managers do not want.

2. Your account is a Hero Rank and I believe the posting standard is higher compared to lower ranks. If you are going to join campaigns with limited slots for Hero/Legendary ranks, you also have to compete with other members who have better post quality or with the same quality but with better activity.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: LbtalkL on February 10, 2020, 01:52:05 PM
Keep trying mate, I was in your shoes before but I never gave up, 5 to 6 application is not that much, I have been ignored more than that but I keep trying. You have more opportunity than me, most of the campaigns requires Sr. member. Just keep what you are doing and dont lose hope. And dont PM managers why they didnt accept you because the answer is obvious.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: bugsbuds on February 11, 2020, 06:08:03 AM
As i read on one campaign manager accept people who not comply with rules he write, but after someone say it he remove them and accept ither people, you are a good poster. hope soon you will get in one good campaign.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: Negotiation on February 12, 2020, 12:11:31 PM
I think this is a problem if you do not follow any rules for working  Because when you go to join  you need to know about the details before you go  I have encountered this problem many times  if not despair at work. But now there are very few problems  There are many managers who see the quality of the post  so if I post good help  you can get rid of this problem  Keep trying Don't lose hope.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: akirasendo17 on February 12, 2020, 03:22:17 PM
Dear forum member, I want to tell you a little about how I feel so far. After I was disqualified from the cryptotalk campaign by the manager because many of my posts were classified as spam, I decided to change my posting habits for the better (maybe only I said). Since then my post behavior began to change and I really wanted to promote something in my signature and avatar fields. I started to register and register for several campaigns on the board service because I was tired of promoting altcoin bounty which ended up being scam and unprofitable and it was a waste of time.

I have sent at least 5 or 6 of my applications to be considered in a different campaign, but no manager is willing to accept me as a participant. This is what made me decide to find a solution from you about what I should do.

  • Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
  • Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
  • Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?

I want to hear all of your suggestions and solutions, this is not just because my hopes were not reached to join the campaign. But I really want to be a useful person for every post I make just like you. I know that I am not a good poster, but after getting moral guidance from my local members, I was warned and guided to change those bad habits so that are useful and at least not to make the forum into a trash can anymore and I will try to change it as time goes by. Thanks.

I think you have misjudge the one who are making campaign, i think you are doing very well, maybe you have not the requirements of the campaign
or maybe the campaign is already full, or there are no available slot, i too have experience of never been accepted in a campaign, but it never stop me from applying for any campaign because my thinking is that, since there are lots of people applying for the spot, my suggestion is that don't stop applying , never stop posting helpful tips and guides, be nice to everyone, and never loose hope, because everything happens for a reason


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: rodskee on February 13, 2020, 07:53:49 AM
Dear forum member, I want to tell you a little about how I feel so far. After I was disqualified from the cryptotalk campaign by the manager because many of my posts were classified as spam, I decided to change my posting habits for the better (maybe only I said).
it is good to know that you took that comment of manager(i am sure it is Yahoo62278 because he is managing the Cryptotalk that time) as a challenge for improvement and not discouragement.
  • Can I ask the manager why he did not accept my application ?
of course you can do that so a chance of improving to be qualify is there,though managers have their own classifications in accepting participants.
  • Improve the quality of posts first before joining a campaign ?
yeah and it will take many pages before achieving because Most Managers not only looking to your recent posts but going thru many pages that is why you need to improve not overnight but will take you weeks or even months.
  • Accept the fact that I will continue to be ignored by managers for every campaign I apply for because of my previous posting history which might be labeled as a shit poster ?
as what i have said above,it will take time mate,just continue to contribute int his forum,never give up because all of us deserve a second chance,i am use to be a "shitposter" also but i want top improve and tell everybody that i can do it,even if this take many of my hours to be here in forum.
I want to hear all of your suggestions and solutions, this is not just because my hopes were not reached to join the campaign. But I really want to be a useful person for every post I make just like you. I know that I am not a good poster, but after getting moral guidance from my local members, I was warned and guided to change those bad habits so that are useful and at least not to make the forum into a trash can anymore and I will try to change it as time goes by. Thanks.
if you really want to become a useful member of the forum then Dont bother about this things instead Make your self Useful by proving that you can do it starting today and in future.


Title: Re: Looking for the best solution
Post by: ShowOff on February 13, 2020, 12:43:49 PM
You are all people who have succeeded in defeating useless attitudes in terms of posting, not posting bullshit and other meaningless things in the forum. Quality improvement is important when someone wants to get the same opportunity as a row of famous people in the forum. Its just that we all need more time, but when we focus more maybe something will be different.

Thank you for visiting the thread and providing some of the best solutions for me, I think I should lock this thread because I have got enough answers and prevent spammers from entering, if any. So keep moving all.