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The control and cure for Coronavirus and SARS is here - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13615-X/fulltext#fig1. But it will take a little reading to understand. Simply stated, the cure is glycyrrhizin, a compound/extract from the licorice root. Licorice root can be purchased, either whole root or extract, in many health food stores.

From Lew Rockwell, the dangers of standard vaccination:
In addition to the above cure, true colloidal silver, and Jim Humble's MMS (chlorine dioxide), can be taken to reduce all pathogens without directly targeting CV or SARS.

More than likely there are many nutritional, hygienic, and homeopathy treatments that work, without the dangers of vaccine induced side effects.

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If you're an anti-vaxxer who drinks bleach (MMS), then Coronavirus probably shouldn't be your main area of concern.


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If you're a vaxxer who drinks bleach, you are protected from many of the side-effects of vaccines that you wouldn't have been protected from without the bleach.

If you don't like drinking bleach, and you are in the USA (or many other countries), stop drinking city water and bottled water, and stop eating store-bought, fresh produce which is often washed in bleach water, and has bleach residue on it.

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wow great now china has to theoretically pay mas vaccinations for the entire world to get free of its disease spreading guilt, not to forget that many will try to abuse those vaccinations then. and then blame that also on china

Homeopathy is extremely dangerous. You can easily get overdosed by forgetting to take a pill.

Hint: It is a joke.

This is crazy talk. You need to STFU.

Homeopathy has to do with taking small amounts of medicine. If you overdose by forgetting to take a small amount, you really better stay away from medicine altogether.

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Do you have proof that it is crazy talk? If you don't have such proof, maybe it is the best wise talk around.

Your suggestion (order?) that I STFU, is something that is ordered by folks who want to see people die, except if Big Pharma can make a lot of money off helping them to live. Whose side are you really on?

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Not quite. Homeopathy is dilution until there is no medicine at all.


It is crazy though, particularly the MMS stuff. I know I disagree with you on most subjects, but I really wouldn't want you drinking this. It's an industrial bleach that can cause kidney failure amongst other things.

There is a load of proof about MMS. These two articles for example:
1)Sentenced to 4 years in prison for marketing toxic chemical as a miracle cure. (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/seller-miracle-mineral-solution-sentenced-prison-marketing-toxic-chemical-miracle-cure)
2)FDA begs public to stop drinking bleach (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/master-mineral-solution-mms-fda-warning-bleach-871774/)

Please don't drink it!

If we want to get technical about the definition of "homeopathy," all we have to do is look in dictionaries and encyclopedias.

The joker who was sentenced for MMS, was not sentenced for marketing a toxic chemical. He was found guilty of making false statements about it, and for not obeying an order to stop making false statements.

As I have said before, there are some cities that use chlorine dioxide as a purifier in their drinking water. Even the World Health Organization promotes chlorine dioxide in drinking water - https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/water-quality/guidelines/chemicals/chlorine-dioxide-chlorite-chlorate-background-jan17.pdf.

If you search the Net on things like, "chlorine dioxide in drinking water," you will see that it is used all over the place to kill bugs in water.

In addition, many small companies sell sodium chlorite and citric acid, the two most popular chemicals for making chlorine dioxide in the home. The reason they are not sued by government is the way they talk about the chemicals they use.

Your personal preference is completely okay with me. But mine is to use MMS on occasion.

Note that when the FDA asks people to stop drinking bleach, they are patently suggesting via a false statement. Nobody is drinking bleach when he drinks MMS. Rather, people are drinking (generally) water or juice with a tiny amount of chlorine dioxide in it. So, the FDA shows that they are against people getting well on their own. No money in it through Big Pharma bribes if they were to say it the way it really is.

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We've had discussions before. You have no understanding of basic chemistry and in some cases, are advocating things that are outright dangerous. This is one of them.

https://www.livescience.com/65568-licorice-overdose-high-blood-pressure.html

A good friend of mine believed this kind of garbage, thought he could take natural remedies, then was admitted to hospital with similar symptoms, bp > 200. He had a stroke and now is half paralyzed for life. The stroke was the result of the "natural remedies."

So yeah, on some stuff you really should STFU.

It's virtually impossible for persons without special and rigorous training to get anywhere near correct dosing when attempting to self-medicate. In many cases, they make mistakes and take too much, orders of magnitude too much.

There are many analogs to this. Industrial chemicals may be sold at 35-50% concentration in water, but for consumer use are sold at 1-5%. Reason: Safety. And it makes perfect sense.

Looks like my joke was too hard to understand  :)

No, I got it, I thought it was funny.

On a serious note however, I know it gets a bad press, but nothing works like homeopathy.

Isn't it time we stopped all this nonsense. The only real cure for Corona Viruses is herd immunity, and vaccinations and most pharmaceuticals block the development of herd immunity. Recent research shows that children who develop fevers under the age of one year, have healthier lives, and are less likely to develop leukemia. Please stop screwing up a system that nature took thousands of years to create, and concentrate on improving and stabilising our environment. Stopping people crapping in the streets of San Francisco is more important than injecting poisons into babies and creating an unhealthy population of junkies.

I would have ended it with ", right?" and placed a smiley  :D following the end.

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I agree. But I also think that the planet isn't as healthy as it was at times in the past. I would add juicing to increase important nutrients, but also, not eliminate the fiber altogether.

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I'm glad your friend at least survived. But I am sad about the stroke. But on the outside, you seem to be missing it.

Homeopathy is being used by thousands. The medical is being used by millions. Before the medical stopped reporting on hospital deaths from medical staff accidents or stupidity, it was like 700,000 or 800,000 people a year that died from this. At present we don't know how many die, because the medical hides it in ways that make it difficult to determine.

Personally, I think that you are very clever. I could guess that your real reason for not wanting the cures and controls for the Coronavirus to become known, are also kinda selfish. What do I mean? I think you have recognized that there is a time correlation between when Bitcoin started to go up, again, and when the CV hit.

The CV hit, and then Bitcoin started to rise. China oppression and quarantining among the people by the Chinese government are causing some of the people to turn to Bitcoin again. And that is why Bitcoin is going back up.

Why should we make the simple, everyday cures for CV known to the world? After all, Chinese will read it and apply it, become cured, and Bitcoin will go back down again. So, you will maintain your Bitcoin losses from the '17/'18 BTC crash.

On the other hand, if CV continues to affect the Chinese and the world, more people will turn to Bitcoin, and the price just might rocket, again, like it did in 2017.

Kinda selfish of you. But money is important, and maybe you can get your life savings back, that you invested in Bitcoin just before it crashed.

So, depending on what is more important to people - the destruction of CV or the Bitcoin rise - we will probably be finding all kinds of people telling others to STFU.

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indeed very important is the first way to prevent, strengthen immunization in our bodies with food that can strengthen and healthy. then with a healthy pattern there will be antibodies provided by the body to be able to protect themselves from unwanted disorders.

but I have heard the news but it is not certain because the name is also news, that the HIV AIDS drug is one that can be used to cure, is that right? I can't be sure of that.

Well, you guessed wrong (not the first time, either). You made a claim as to a way people could stop a pandemic that seems to kill 2-5% of those that get it, a claim that has no basis in reality and which has serious side effects. I called you on it.

Well, since you wouldn't take the easy way out, I'll accept your STFU. Not to do it, but to not be offended by it. I mean, this is a forum. You have as much right to say it as I have to say what I say. So, there. I have given it as an "all-about-you," just like you seem to want it. Now lets get on with the cures for CV.

Try this common sense stuff: Coronavirus SOLUTIONS: What to do NOW - https://www.brighteon.com/80928f50-05a0-44ef-bf97-cfe7cb64233c.

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I might try herbal stuff (glychrrhizin probably wouldn't taste bad anyway) but if it says "homeopathic" I'd stay away from it. It's basically just sugar water. The whole notion of water "remembering" even if the content has been so diluted that there's hardly a trace of the "medicinal" substance is just plain wacko. If I'm going green I might as well just buy the plant whole and prepare it myself than pay for overpriced water drops. I already have some herbs for cough in pots.


What are your thoughts on macrodosing vitamin C? I take 1000mg a day, split into 500mg morning and night. I heard some people doing 10k.

Micro-dosing might be wacko, but you get way more than micro-dosing from the substances they put in some foods these days.

I usually take 4 to 6 grams of V-C daily. I take it with L-lysine, because Linus Pauling found out that heart disease is really scurvy, and V-C stops it, while L-lysine repairs the damage. Add L-proline for faster and better repair.

More than likely, massive amounts of V-C will help with the CV. ( :o )

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Your body only needs a tiny amount of Vitamin C every day, because it's burned by your cells due to its role in oxidation processes. More oxygen you process is resulting with greater amount of burned Vitamin C. This means that without Vitamin C your cells won't be able to convert oxygen and glucose into energy.

Exact amount is depending on your physical condition, your muscle mass and your lifestyle. But it will never be higher than ~100-120mg daily for men and ~60-80mg daily for women. All the excessive amount will be simply excreted off with fieces and urine. Just keep in mind that Vitamin C has no magical powers and its excessive amounts won't actually give you any benefits.

High doses of Vitamin C are poisonous for kidney, hephatic and pancreatic cells. Taking such amounts is a way to achieve either diabetis melitis or kidney issues. Or both.

So you're literally committing an act of suicide. In a very slow but painful way.

Don't deceive yourself. It will do nothing unless you're suffering vitamin C deficiency which is not your case. Futhermore, normally functioning immune system doesn't need any kind of "help" or "boosting".

These are not easily found where I live so I might have to make do with some other stuff. And of course, maybe actually just reducing contact to minimize risk of infection. That would probably be hard to do in China though where people are starting to go insane and smearing their saliva everywhere.

I rate colloidal silver / nano silver...use it for all sorts of minor aliments and infections...I haven't turned blue yet!

Also natural antibiotics like oregano oil or thyme oil are a must  ;)

You will never notice it until somebody will say because this process is very slow. ::) However, irreversibly turning into a blue being is not the worst thing.

The worst thing is a false sense of being protected.

1) Silver has virtually zero virostatic activity in reasonablr range of concentrations. It won't protect you from viral infections.
2) Silver is displaying a minor level of bacteriostatic activity. It won't protect you from bacterial infections if its concentration will be lower than 50-300 ug/l. Such concentrations, according to this book (https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-9491-0), are dangerous for human health due to silver's cellular toxicity.

There is a lot of antiseptics and bacteriostatic agents which are far more efficient, safer and at the same time they have almost no side effects.

P.S. If you need to treat bacterial infections and you're afraid of synthetic agents then you can use bacteriophages. Phages are very effective and cheap.

http://europhages.com/en/or-buy-bacteriophages/

I don't buy it, seen the positive effects of silver first hand, also it is given to marines in the US army when they are out in the battle field because it works...was used in HK to spray down the trains during SARS virus epidemic too. also some Indians love to eat silver and I have never met a blue Indian yet! Just asked some people passing on the street if I look bluey and they say no  ;)
Not advocating drinking silver solutions but topically it is good for fighting some infections and cleaning wounds


bacteriophages sounds cool but any examples?
https://iherb.com/pr/Life-Extension-Florassist-GI-with-Phage-Technology-30-Liquid-Vegetarian-Capsules/72248

There is ionic colloidal silver (usually called ionic silver), that reacts on viruses like bleach does.

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For some unclear reason, bacteriophages aren't widely used outside of russia and some other eastern european countries. But you may buy them online.

https://aptekapro.com/index.php?route=product/search&search=bacteriophag

Most interesting property of phages is that it's really hard for bacterial cells to develop resistance against them. Because these are not just some molecules, these are viruses. Natural antagonists of bacterial colonies which are able to exterminate bacterial cells by using them as means to reproduce.

However, there is a problem as well. Antibiotics and other antimicrobal agents are relatively universal. One drug can work against various kind of bacterial species and strains. Phages are mostly the opposite, typical phage is targeted against a specific kind of bacteria and it won't work against the others. There are some phages which are able to work on various bacterial species, but it's more an exception rather than a rule.

Well... Some people are observing positive effects from drinking the urine. I believe you wouldn't do that simply because they were describing it as "efficient". You would request some solid evidence and research.

No, it's not. If you don't believe me then you can buy US military first aid kit on ebay and see it yourself. There is no such thing in the first aid kit and there won't be. Because it doesn't work. Futhermore, combat medics and military hospitals also don't have it. I understand that you like it but, please, don't spread the myths.

OK true, so my friend told me and his friend told him...LOL...but they do use silver dressings for wound care according to US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25418434



Using a virus to kill a virus!
So you do a microbiological culture to diagnose the bacteria strain and then can find the specific phages that target that strain?


Why are phages not being used or researched more then?? Seems chemical antibiotics not only kill the natural bacteria but also phages medicinal use!

No money in something that works well. Without careful experimentation, phages can kill. But when they work, they work better than all the medicine around.

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Exactly. If there is no time to produce a culture then you can use one of available phage cocktails. These are mixes of varios phages which are developed to target a wide set of most the most common bacterial infections.

Because it requires more money. It's simpler to invent yet another poison targeting a wide set of bacterial species than do research to find phages which are able to target all common infections.

Nobody wants to spend "excessive" money on something "new". Meanwhile, phages are able to cure even those patients who were considered hopeless.

https://www.oregonlive.com/health/2019/12/he-was-going-to-lose-his-leg-until-doctors-turned-to-cure-older-than-dirt.html
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/613509/genetically-engineered-phage-therapy-has-rescued-a-teenager-on-the-brink-of-death/

It's true, unfortunately.

   If it was as easy as popping some licorice root then a country famous for herbal remedies wouldn't have a billion people under quarantine. That is of course if the virus isn't just a pretext and plausible deniability to cull a majority of the human population and implode economies to ensure the security of the 1% [globalists] who are above all laws, rules and regulations.

Lambs to the slaughter, off to wal mart, costco and target quarantine camps run by the same folks who put those cool symbols on the the $1 bill. The guys running it with boots on the ground know everybody they quarantine will be culled, so they get to loads and loads of fun! Lamps shades and bars of soap are armature hour stuff, they'll really get to have some serious fun.


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   In other news zero hedge claims the Fed has blown a large bubble:

https://i.imgur.com/GKnPMvK.png

-- https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fed-has-created-monster-bubble-it-can-no-longer-control

I wonder what the fact that the just-in-time supply chain runs out in ~30 days due to the china quarantine will have on this bubble?

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Unfortunately, licorice root doesn't cure the real problem in the CV scare. The real problem is government trying to control the people, and scaring them into thinking that CV can't be cured with licorice root.

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Since there's a fat discussion regarding homeopathy around here, can someone explain me what are the basis for that sort of stuff? It is essentially placebo,  does it use some "natural alternatives to medicine" (i.e. herbal plants with scientifically proven efficiency), is it more like the esoteric bullshit I saw on TV once of an ex-homeopathy vendor trying to infuse her olive plantations with positive energy by burying some random crap, or neither?

When Monsanto first made and tested Roundup, they tested only tiny amounts on plants they were trying to kill off. The plants grew better than ever until Monsanto increased the amounts they used.

What works for some might not work for others.

There is placebo effect in everything. Placebo works negatively as well as positively. Tell a person he has cancer or CV, and he just might get it because he believes you.

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Sure, but there's a complete difference between placebo as a collateral effect and placebo as the main healing factor of a medicine.

Right. All medicines are essentially poisons in small enough amounts (usually) to not kill. All they do is elicit an immune system action of the kind that overcomes the problem.

Sometimes placebo action is enough to elicit such an immune system action. But, we simply don't have any way of measuring whether or not medicine is causing a placebo effect via the subconscios or not... placebo effect that does the majority of the healing. If it is really placebo effect in all of it, medicine might be the least of the healing methods around. What we would need is something that causes faith in people.

Remember, multitudes of people die in hospitals, and many under other medical care. It might be placebo effect loss of faith in the doctor, or it might be placebo effect faith in the negative statements of the doctor.

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I suspect there's a way to remove any microbial pathogen from the body. I also suspect weaponized 5G doesn't just trigger and assist pathogens and their toxins, I suspect that if you're the 1% [globalists] it can do the opposite. I suspect 5G supports various "rife" modes of operation.

I drink enough water so I think it'll be fine. I just noticed that I get colds more often when I reduced my Vit C intake though I don't know if that's supposed to be a "withdrawal".


I already read some people blame 5g for the locust outbreaks currently happening in Africa. Maybe the vibrations have to do with it or something. Someone has tested grasshoppers by repeatedly tapping on their bodies and they transitioned to their locust form.

That will help your body to excrete excessive amounts of adsorbic acid and its metabolites. However, this looks like trying to solve the problem which can be avoid by not creating it in first place. :)

When I was a student, I tried high doses of Vitamin C and I had this thing happening to me as well.

When you take a lot of something your body is trying to get rid of it and its adaptation has a kind of latency. That is why taking high doses of some vitamin may result with such "withdrawal" effects in the future. Because normal doses won't be enough due to accelerated excretion rates. I mean higher amount of cold cases as well as development of chronic atigue and other symptoms after I stopped to take high doses of Vitamin C. It took 6 months approximately to normalize my life after this.

There is no scientific basis for it whatsoever - it is quackery.

The basic nonsense behind it is that substances which cause a symptom will cure the same symptom. So if you have a skin rash they suggest a "remedy" made from stinging nettles. Seriously. But, if that wasn't stupid enough, they also believe that water "has a memory". So for your skin rash, they will take some stinging nettle, dilute it one part of stinging nettle to ninety nine parts of water, give it a shake to make a 1% solution, dilute one part of that mixture with a further ninety nine parts of water, give it a shake to make a 0.01% solution, dilute one part of that mixture with a further ninety nine parts of water, give it a shake to make a 0.0001% solution, and you get the idea. They usually repeat this anywhere between 30 to 200 times. However, after around 12 dilutions like this, not even a single molecule of the original substance still remains. But somehow the water "retains a memory" of the original substance. Here's the real kicker though - they think the more you dilute it, the stronger it gets.

It is entirely placebo. Anyone arguing otherwise lacks the most basic understanding of science.

What are you even talking about? The placebo effect can be measured extremely easily. You have seriously never heard of a randomized control trial? The entirety of modern medicine is based on comparisons against the placebo effect.

The basic problem here I think is the different mindset, and the key word is presupposition.

For people who have a religious, faith-based understanding of the world, belief is what comes first and underpins any evidence. If the evidence doesn't fit the belief, it won't be accepted. This is why you'll never be able to convince a religious person of the veracity of an argument by using logic, facts and science - they simply won't accept the tools unless they build on the existing foundation.

I saw the news a few days ago on TV that vaccines and homeopathic medicines were made to cure coronavirus It is made from a variety of herbal plants that are replenishing our body's immunity and making it curable I heard it was not a medicine for the disease based on the religious belief of Allah's wrath and pestilence, but now people are returning to their normal lives with the help of vaccines and homeopathic medicines.

SIMPLE placebo effect can be measured rather easily. But we don't even know what goes into complex placebo effect. What do I mean? Possibly all healing, medical or otherwise, is complex placebo effect. Why would I think this way?

No medicine heals. All that medicines do is to prompt/push/trick the body into healing itself. If the medical really knew the deep stuff involved with the body healing itself, they would do it rather than play games with poisons... except if they want to make more money, that is. But since they don't know, all the further they can measure in ideal circumstances is about 33% of healing being done by placebo effect.

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So whenever we operate to cut out a cancerous tumor, it's not removing the tumor that saves the patient's life, it's that somehow slicing in to them with a scalpel gives their body a wake up call to kill the cancer cells. Before we operate, they just don't want to live badly enough.

This is some top grade nonsense.

Do people simply die when they lose an arm or a leg? In some cases they do. But often they simply go on with their lives and adapt.

So, what does anything you say have to do with placebo effect? Are you dense, or what?

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Thanks, Balthazar.

Now if we could only figure out how the homeopathy s*** works, we could cure ourselves with s***.

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"Researchers have come up with a way to turn coffee and other mundane liquids into primitive quantum computers. ..." -- https://www.sciencemag.org/news/1997/01/quantum-computer-cup-joe

https://i.imgur.com/YnkPFOO.jpg

And as we drink these novel quantum computers, we will start to be able to think in quantum computing dimensions. Pretty soon we won't need computer neural nets to connect to computers any longer. We will be the computers.

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Colloidal silver is an excellent remedy. Also use a personal ozonizer in the room in which you are located. But do not forget to ventilate the room after this, since ozone kills all viruses, germs and fungus (it also affects a person)