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The bull run is the most appreciated time for crypto currency investors and trader's

But i am shocked after the little bull run that pushed up bitcoin, etherum anf other token prices, people are starting to offer signal services, ttadr signals etc

Suddenly some set of people turned theirself to analyst.
i would advice you stick to your trade patterns or strategies and avoid this desperate signal peddlers.

NB: This is basically my thoughts this morning, perhaps you feel its a wrong motive from me?
let me know what you feel about it.

No werent on bull run phase yet. This is simply a boost from all over investors and traders who are looking forward for a healthy market. Bull run is something very huge and lots of money will be involved due to demand of different coins and tokens.

Signal? You mean a group where people given certain clue or hint to buy or sell? That's not actually new and even for altcoins there are lots of groups like these. Anyway your advice is good but you cant force other to rely on charts and normal basis due to lack of knowledge.

You haven't seen anything yet, we aren't even in bull market phase yet, just wait when the bull begin properly and you'll see all sort of scams popping up every minute. Those claiming to be investment platforms and trading professionals, etc. The issue isn't about this shady activities popping up but are the Investors and enthusiast getting informed so they don't fall victim of this scammers.

About the self declared analyst, avoiding them is quite achievable, you just have to understand nobody actually understand the market, all they do is predict or speculation on the outcome either from informations available to everyone or from previous experience. What they do isn't that special and most times they do it for their selfish interest.

Like you have said, developing yourself, practicing your trading strategy and perfecting them is the only way to profit from the bull run. Relying on this so called specialist is just foolishness as all they do is leverage on the number of followers they have to pump and dump coins.

Very correct, there is no such thing as crypto expert in this space because many who predicted in the past all failed, this means you have to rely on your own tactics to proceed and achieve your aim, there is nothing wrong in learning, mistakes will happen just learn from it and try again

From what I know, this signals are given both in the bull and in the bear run, the trading discussion/Economics section has lots of those information, users are sharing strategies and signals on how to trade and so on. I've once said it before that I do not suppose anyone to be an expert, if there were experts, then trading will be a doddle for everyone. They may not be scammers per se, and just sharing their experiences, but investors should'nt follow their advices blindly.
And also buying and watching out for how long the bull run will last, that's for the hodlers, but it also risky, so you don't buy when the price is too high and then it doesn't go up from there anymore but retrogresses,(for example those who bought at 20k) then you'll have to keep on hodling.

Everyone can have their own analyses and prediction to price of the tokens and coins but market always decide whether the price could hit its target. Support and resistance are always there to rely on. Why do you think TA is a great reference? Cause its work in times we are clueless on what to do either we need to sell and buy.

If youre not a trader then dont mind those babbling cause holders tend to just stay put and look for a higher value where they can sell and monetize profits of their asset.

I see so many crypto signal offers on their trade appearing on the telegram channel again actively and they say the analysis will be 80% accurate but actually I am not so sure what is offered, I will focus more on what I have in that trade I have find your own ways to trade safely that is better and more profitable.
for me buying a trading signal is useless.

There are many fake analyst/traders on every single social media like Facebook and twitter, I am not surprised that they kept growing in number because people do patronize them, sending money to traders online to trade for them, people are so unpredictable

I agree on everything else but i think we most definitely are in the beginning of the long bull market, in fact i would be very surprised if this wasn't it. People aren't just believing it yet. When they do it's usually scammertime once again. And this time scammers will come probably even more prepared.

And people will believe crappy "influencers" once again, because in bull market it's so easy making money, people will believe that they are actually good traders, and pumps will be more effective and dumps will be devastating.

I believe you don't know how desperate people are when it comes to money making, many don't want to work hard but they aim to achieve big things, do you know that some rely on Charts? and some relies on Experts Prediction? because I've seen such people, they exists

Now there is a stir in the cryptocurrency market, everyone is trying to sell their coins and make good profits. I believe that analysts make the forecast very in the right direction and their strategies at the moment are very doubtful. Since everyone can be mistaken and you need to catch shasn in this market to sell your coins.

I think that before say "NO" to trading signals, you need to analyze the statistics and experience of those traders who offer it. I am working with several people and trade with their signals. there are definitely people in this market who give very high-quality signals, but you have to pay a lot of money to receive these signals

This people who offers signal was never lost in the market, they remain here because the market despite at bear are still volatile, so they'll make money with the call. However, in bull market, people are more interested to invest and for me, signals are not important anymore as in bull market we will likely make money in short trade due to the fact that price can be easily predicted.

I suggest that they should study how to trade and don't rely on those so called TA.
Everyone could predict the price but not everyone have the skill to know how to read the chart.
Those so called TA's are just following the trend they see a big dump they would tell some random price at the bottom and when the market moves up they would just random guess a number that would looks close but also realistic to reach because of the hype.

Oh crap here they go again.

Well, thanks to the high price of bitcoin.
I bet they will take it even for just .001 BTC of payment.
Yes, they are seeing a big wave which will come and they are hoarding more even with how much evil way it could get.

Telegram mostly. This happens a lot there.

Or people should probably just use signals from traders who are consistently right. Many of those groups are not worth risking ones hard-earned money. They could even be buying up coins that don't deserve investments and dumping on their customers. 
I guess it's better to just use free sites like TradeView.

I think we are already in bullish trend else BTC & ETH and other alts wouldn't have pumped, also it's always better to research on our own which gives as atleast a satisfaction even if we do mistake.

No one in this forum gives genuine predictions they are just sharing their own thoughts, for me another name of crypto is 'unpredictable'...

The market is till running sideways. In Bull run the Fiat value increases daily it does not get stuck as it is happening now. It is better to follow your own strategy rather following someone else. These self proclaimed crypto gurus were always present suddenly they have come out after being silent for 2 years now.

Avoid them to avoid loses.

Yes and most of them are those who lost money in the process. It takes time to study and become an expert trader but trial and error is a must for you to understand how to earn money by trading.


Signals arent always accurate and we knew that ever since. If you like to rely on someone's caliber then those guys should be efficient enough to provide a good result. I am following a trading group, they don't divulge specific answers on where to the market will dump or pump but from how I can see they do it. Clearly I followed a right group cause some hints point me on the right direction. Can't share the group its confidential.

Trading signal providers are proven scam. There are people who have also started providing managed portfolio services where they are offering to trade on your behalf and share a percentage of profit. My discord account is full with such non sense invitations. I don't know how people realls falls for such scams and then cry for loosing money!

There are too many fake analysts and traders on the market. Therefore, traders must always be careful. In addition, trade advice from quality investors/analysts can be useful, but you should also always do your own research and analysts too. And trade according to your analyst results.

Quite right, it is unnecessary to trust various forecasters from the Internet or various telegram channels, because in almost all cases these forecasts turn out to be a lie, therefore you should always think with your own head and first of all listen to yourself and draw your own conclusions.

Its not a new thing, I've seen people sending money to crypto traders and the expert trader removes his or her own percentage after a successful trade, my advice is anyone can do this themselves without looking for crypto trading experts

Right, you can call them cyber criminals, taking advantage of the weak again just because we are in the sort of mini bull run. Maybe we can see telegram signal groups multiplying in numbers again, similar to 2017. However, I have a strong feeling that investors are smarter now. Although there could be a lot of newbies who can still fall for this kind of trick.


Nah, it's good that you have given the community a fair warning about this. Been long in this market, and I have seen this repeatedly, criminals just around the corner waiting to pounce for their unsuspecting victims but offering trading signals. Initially they will offer it for free, then later they will suckered you to join their paid signals. And then you are caught and eventually loss money in the end.

These signal groups have been popular for years, and to be fair you can find some decent ones. It's very profitable for people to learn trading techniques and then leverage these to provide signals and get people to pay for membership. It's hard to consistently be successful though and a lot of them seem to lose interest/make enough money and then pack it in.

One thing infuriates me with these signal traders. If you have two coins and one makes 15% profit and the other makes 20%, this DOES NOT EQUAL 35% profit. It's awful maths, and I see it from all of them...please, take these claims with a pinch of salt. These are people who don't even understand percentages nevermind the complexities of trading.

Yes, I see the signal from the group that I look in some of my friends, but I also suggest them not to follow the signal if they don't analyze by themselves. It is too risky to follow their signals because we don't know if they have skills or not in making that signals, and it is better we do by ourselves. With the current situations at the market, there will be many other signal groups that will offer their services, and we need to pay them to get the signals.

Not everyone will listen to such a warning, because they only learn from their mistakes. However, past experiences of other people should be lessons to us. Some folks are looking for means to accumulate to their portfolio and the only means that can think of is to rip others of their hard-earned money, by offering services that will never be of benefit. Signal channels are almost everywhere, but I have never seen any of them worked.

If you already consider yourself trader then why would you even listen to the clowns?
We all know that those TA's would only be around when the market is showing a great movement.
Even someone who couldn't read the chart could also do what they do so why bother believing them if you could also do it on your own?
Make your own decision so you would also learn from it.
Learn to stand up for your own don't rely on others.

Many telegram signal groups that were previously inactive are now active again giving Buy signals and other bitcoin and altcoin cells.
Signal groups are free and paid. Although paid is not necessarily trustworthy, because there is a lot of manipulation in it.
Determine the buy and sell prices according to what has been determined by the group owner, the group owner will get more profit.
As a beginner trader it should not depend on the signal group that only provides buy and sell information without any deeper education about the techniques of analysis and fundamental techniques.
We must learn what are the basics of trading that need to be known so as not to get caught up in the growing bitcoin signal group game at this time.

As a trader, you should learn to see things right and to create a fixed decision. This is not a bull run yet. You will only know if bull run has begun once you see scammers around stealing the profits of others. Signal channels should never be a basis for you to start trading because it won't really work in the first place. You have to research on your own so that you will also learn to stand on your own without depending on other's analysis.

I guess because its easy to spot the dip and when its about to go spike again which they now made themselves an expert in trading.  Doing this while the market is stable isn't going to be easy. Right now all they are to determine is the lower highs in the market but if it doesn;t work for them they can just scam the people whom they manage their assets.

You are right in your observation about these signal groups but it is understandable because the market is picking up and bitcoin is growing too.
We have to realize that signal groups are also in the business of making money and is unfortunate.

Since the beginning of learning to trade, I have been warned by friends who are more experienced in trading.  He said that trading signals, whether premium or not, often have a specific purpose, give a buy code when it's already bought at the bottom, etc.  so the one giving the signal has started earlier.  it could be that we are late and trapped by an inadequate analysis.  so it's better to learn to analyze the market independently, learn technical and fundamental analysis, train mentally to deal with dynamic market movements, all need process.
That is why I prefer discussing with fellow traders rather than trusting trading signals from group telegrams or other social media.

No only this, you will see tokens doing a whooping 300% and so within a few hrs time. Everyone should be careful out here to avoid being dumped on trade with caution trusting only few top coins.

During bull run like this, because the market is always green and money keeps doubling, so the party is high, like this just as we saw in 2017, people will lose emotional control and start buying just anything without almost not thinking. This is because people lack emotional and financial intelligent.

Actually, you are right. This is the point when various ‘analyst’ would start making so many claims. Whatever the so-called analysts say are just their opinions. No one actually understands the market that well. In fact, if you take your time to analyse the market, you might even make better analysis than some of those ‘analysts’. Those signals, many times, deceptive.

It is expected. Many self acclaimed pros only come alive during any bull run. Everyone will have a thing or two to say about which coin will breakout and which will not.

Either there is the bull run or the bear market
We all have to be careful from different forms of signals that fly around telegram especially.

Stick to your known method, learn snd develop more skills.

I don't understand why so many people go for these signals and seers... if these guys were really experts or seers they would be filthy rich and would not be offering their services around... I think...

That's because in every industry, there are those who consider themselves as experts, just because of their few years experience in it. Beginners then look up to these self proclaimed expert as teachers. We humans are prone to this.
Even those who are learners now will one day, call themselves experts too. Point is, while there are those who are truly expert in price prediction with valid points, there are those who simply has nothing to offer.
Moreover majority of crypto investors are always looking for someone who can give them the future price of cryptocurrency. Because to them, it's all about the money.

This is nothing new. It happens every time. When the price of bitcoin and other crypto currencies starts to increase, random people all of a sudden becomes "prediction lord". They start making their own services (most of them through telegram or other private channels). Even if their intentions are not to scam people, they mislead investors and other naive people to great danger.

The right choice to keep using the strategies you have used. Do not just believe in unclear trading signals, it could be just a trap because the cryptocurrency market is very dynamic and difficult to predict. It would be better to use analysis independently, so you are the one who has full control if something unexpected happens, you must already have safe limits for your trade. Don't forget to discuss with fellow traders to strengthen the analysis. dwyor.

Keep in mind that the people that win the most from these signal groups tend to be the admins and/or owner rather than the users most of the time. It's actually a pretty smart way of making money from subscriptions from the owners of these groups, but what I don't like about these groups is they like to exaggerate member wins and almost never show losses or bad calls. You're not learning anything by following other peoples' work by purely acting off of other peoples' analysis too, and it's never a good thing to be too reliant on one group or person for anything in general. Be independent and learn how to trade yourself instead of taking a shortcut.

The success of any trader should be determined not by the number of good signals, but by experience. When the market goes up, many will be able to profit from it. Therefore, only real traders are able to trade in any market, using their knowledge, and not just a convenient case.

Every professional trader has noticed the graphic of the market currently. However, if we are newcomers, we must be more careful and not only following the flow. You are right, analyzing the cart of the market (especially those three coins) is the best way. There may be a market correction soon. But of course, there is still a chance to make a good plan for trading. Carefulness, wise, not too panic are very important as a trader.

People want to make money and nothing gives you a push like waking up to some large green candles.
 
In a bear market everybody is down and grim but when the market turns bull everybody wakes up and starts trading all over again. I like this change of mood and I like the enthusiasm even when all these youtubers and signal peddlers don't know  shit and it shows.

Let them do it, let them share that positive energy with newcomers. That's how bull runs are born.

I agree with you. don't trust trading signals.
trade must be based on market analysis. and emsoi control.

everyone has their own trading strategy to be able to make a profit and I never believe in trading signals because it will be frustrating. it's better to believe in yourself and according to what many people say trading signals will have a bad and insecure effect.

well trading is indeed used to train your patience and emotions because when you can't control it all then you will be affected by other people's trading signals, but if you are a beginner then you can use various signals to learn so that one day you can create a buy signal and a sell signal for yourself with great accuracy.

These days no one should buy signal from others. The market is going only one way right now and that is up. So some people making money even they invest it in a poor project and then they are thinking that they became experts in it. So agree with you we should be careful. Also, we don't know how long this bull run will remain but I think we are almost at the end of it.

And for your information many of these signals will drop without it purpose, this has happened to me during the last bitcoin halve when I joined one of these professional trader who give out signals for rent. After paid heavily I lost almost three consecutively before I realizes that, I was in a wrong direction. I never believe if there is something called good signal for sale rather a signal to scam gullible.

Those people who give signals that bitcoin will rise up, do not just believe it. You must also do your own research so that you can apply it on how you are going to trade. It will for surely gonna help you to become successful in your trading career. Do not just trade and trade without any proper knowledge about it. Do some research before you do something.

Well, we don't have to join their groups because we don't know if they really a valid group or they get the signal from the other paid groups. I see that many groups available now in telegrams and send invitations to all people who use telegram to join with them. You can analyze by yourself, and that will help you to search the right time to enter the market, and sometimes you can get hidden gems of the coin so you can make a bigger profit. But you can use their signal so then you can analyze deeper to find the low price and high price to buy and sell.

I think this was not a bull run, it was just a simple boost due to keen interest by investors in Crypto market, Bull run occurs when a huge jump taken by Bitcoin due to huge investment. the Signal groups which offer signals to there premium members are the same as in fiat currencies trading But I did not like it.

If the upcoming Bitcoin halving can make new developers waited for this year then let's all be expecting some scammy behaviors from scammers, they will try new ways we've never seen before and of course new scam projects will definitely pop up as well

If the thing from the scammers is that we don't have to deny friends, because until now there are still many projects that experience a scam when their sales stalled in the middle of the road, and the only thing that can be focused by everyone now is on the trading of coins popular in exchange, because there are very few good projects at this time.

Not wrong with the warning you give here, it's true because they (the signal giver) only want to take money from the beginners who enter the market. I also will not trust the providers of trading signals, I have never joined a group or their Telegram channel. I think it's just a waste of time.

hey, I don't support your statement, you say joining the providers of trading signals channel is a waste of time ?, you are wrong !, I have joined a channel like that on a telegram, and it is very helpful, you have to choose the right channel and the key to your success is also decisive.

Trading is guided from two information, the Fundamental and the Technical analysis. The Fundamental is driven by the global occurences around the currency space while the Technical is read off the chart. Signals can come from either of both but must be considered from the Technical in the absence of the fundamental. those technical are read off the chart and that can be said to be a valid signal but if the fundamental comes and overides it, it is already a fundemntal knowledge on trading that fundamental analysis is always the most upheld amongst the both of them.

nice to be aware of this situation. Most traders i meet are FOMOers, since they got many signals where crypto will bubble, they take it into consideration for taking buy position which already mentioned by many crypto enthusiasts about halving terms. In their minds is never too late to take the risk, which basically they got played by bad influencer again and again.

actually it never hurts to look at other people's analyses and compare it with your analysis, it might make future predictions and speculations even more accurate. at this time, it is natural that many people offer these services, but, however they predict, you will only be encouraged to have a large number of bitcoin and ethereum or altcoin.

You can trust the signal trader if you know the people who offer you, it means he/she is your friend or etc. At least you will be avoid to fall being scammed, because as far as ai know that most signal trader just end up in scam. Their analyst just offer but at the end you will lost your money. But I myself will be prefer to choose my own strategy of course I have to know the trade well or at least I have to know the basic strategy of trading. But at this current situation seem like long term holder will be profitable compared to day trader.

Be careful of FOMO and FUD those TA's are only known to make those statement to start FOMO and FUD.
But the traders are already aware of this I also think that only the newbie's takes them seriously,
So the newbies should be aware of those seasonal famous persons who predicts the price.

I think to join the trading signal would not hurt, I have joined the trading signal, even though I did not join VIP. At least, I can make decisions with full consideration and knowledge that I have. For op, thank you for reminding.

when a bullrun occurs that will benefit from the holders but when when there is no bullrun that will benefit from the traders. so learn both for the right moment between being a holder or a trader

The problem is how to create more awareness for the new traders. Those scammers are still using fake signal to fool the beginner in the cryptocurrency. I have already abandoned so many trading signal group but new people just get trapped on the trap that has already made by scammer through use the trading signal

What I believe here - not just waiting matters, but more exploring. For example, talking about me, I am not just focusing on one or another new product, but choosing the industry and start exploring. So basically, with such an approach I can get deeper into the market. And these days there is a strong product on almost any market

And what markets are you now following from the growing ones? Probably even any solutions you can recommend? Cause I am not an expert, so would definitely be interested to talk to experienced person here

As for today, I would say that I am pretty impressed with following exchanges and wallets solutions market growth. I am following solutions for several months already, as for the most interesting ones, I would probably recommend you to have a look at GetHashWallet. Have you heard of the guys already?

GetHashWallet? Hmm, no, seems that I haven't heard of the guys. What exactly are they coming with? Can you elaborate a bit more on their idea itself? And probably on what attracts you the most

Yes, of course. In few words, guys are coming with secure and private hardware that allows you to secure crypto funds. The device is non-programmable and arrow certified. There was a fundraising on Indiegogo. And what is more, product is already available for sale, so everything can be tried out. I definitely recommend you to have a look at their website to have a deeper understanding

Hmm, sounds interesting, let me have a look on my own as well and get back with own thoughts. Thank you for your recommendation

I would also like to take this opportunity and suggest all the mmembers and traders here to avoid greed and avoid leveraged trading especially now because market seem to show high volatility and swings can be extreme in both directions so your money can disappear quickly if you are using leverage and market moves against your position.

Traders definitely needs to be careful and not get carried away with greed, trade with caution, take profit when necessary and watch carefully to avoid losses. Trading is for the vigilantes and strong hearted tho. Always be ready for profit or loss tho. But if well traded without greed, then it will be a win win.

Yes, and the thing that you say is very suitable for those novice traders in crypto, because for those who are very experienced in trading, of course what you mean is already understood, even though they still use research before trading.

There is nothing wrong in exploring the market, the industries. It is good because that way you get the basic and moral understanding of what the blockchain actually entails and how to deal with the emotions involved in crypto currency.

But when it comes to trading, exploring could lead to loss of assets, or dip. You need to understand fully the effects and manner of trading before exploring such an option
because if you make a mistake, you could buy a cheap altcoin for an expensive price, or you could sell an expensive altcoin at a cheap price.

Always seek knowledge and always do your own research.

It is better not to be dependent or affected by unclear signals, this is widely available in telegrams. Avoid it, because it can affect your analysis. As the OP said, it's better to do an independent analysis, we better understand when to sell according to the safe limits we have made. Moreover, market conditions are still extreme, don't easily believe Bullrun is coming ... it could be bull trap.

What I find being important, analysis of each particular solution. Are you guys having many advanced ones from the ones you follow? My own favorite is Threefold network. It is the biggest decentralized grid of self-managing Internet capacity in the world that is being built collectively by an inclusive ecosystem and owned by everyone. The mission is to expand the current Internet to all areas of the world and to allow everyone to use this Internet at a fraction of its current price

What they are doing is normal and not new, it's a way of people trying to stay relevant. Speculation is part of the game of life then as a trader, when you fall for them, you are not wise because of them don't trade these suppose signals.

news about analysis from various sources can indeed confuse us and erode our confidence. I think if we have understood it is better to ignore the analysis from outside, because we ourselves determine the risks and rewards that we trade. in fact no one knows where the market will move, and all on their respective opinions

Every traders are in one way or another analyst, there is no way even those who are just bounty Hunter will not begin to analyse market in as much that they receive token and monitor their token here. But I think where we need to be careful is that, we should not use our analysis to confuse others, it will be fine if atleast we are sure of what we analyse to a reasonable extent before we start shouting out as if we are in the cryptocurrency market committee.

We are still not in a bull run yet but we are just having a great start to boost up the interest we have as well as the will to continue going into cryptocurrency. Well, you do got a point and I do agree with it that you must be really sticking into your own strategy and pattern in trading and must not be reliant into other people here say to avoid confusion and regret. Trust your own instincts because we, in the very deep side of ourselves is an analyst due to the fact that based on our observation and judgements, we do create formulations and strategies that we discover ourselves to create better understanding on how we will react or decide if we are already getting into trading in any time we do want. Just trust your instincts but be sure that you totally understand on how things work because luck do not always work all the time on trading.

Well, while I agree to the fact that there are some new telegram channels popping up and pooping out a lot of signals, I'd also like to let you know that there are very few genuine channels too which give good signals even during bearish times. Those trying to prove themselves as analysts are just doing it for a few possible things I'm listing below:

- Their self-interest. They want you to buy the coins they have bought at high and now they want you to push it higher.
- Their way to make money. When you follow them and you see some of their trades going green, they start showing some ^Premium^ services they offer where they say that you'll make much better than earning through their free channel. That's when you buy their Premium and get stuck into their trap.

This is another session to be smart as traders.
I understand there are always urges and desires to invest into projects in this deep period and low prices of basically all tokens (80%).

But this is the time to check support levels of all trades, conduct a proper research before investment.
be calm, don't fomo and make the best decisions
Always dyor

This isn't new anymore, the moment there is a little spike in price,the next thing you see in different groups or from people is them giving calls and analysis but the best anyone can do is to study any coin he or she wants to invest in and know when to buy,here I mean watching the price movement so as not to buy too high and then forget these analyst because some could lead you into fire.

As long as if that will come from the trusted party and we can combine these analyzations and put it into the one that can be considered as an analyzation with a high accuracy.
We can do that alone but sometimes we are also needed the suggestion from analysis that has already made by others too.

There's no form of TA guru who can save the times now everyone should stick to their human guts alone. The market has broken TA boundaries its mere speculations from now henceforth which won't hold as much as people would want it to.

Each trader has his own analysis before trading. The price of coins in the market can change at any time, traders must know when the right time to buy and when to sell. That is why traders should be able to study chart movements before trading so as not to be mistaken when taking action.

It seems that for now we have to use our own strategy, because too many people expect prices to rise and not follow the advice of others.

This is another excellent way to trading, by figuring out what you can do best and also accurately.
And the best way to this is to practice how to find information, do good and concrete researches and getting facts cleared.

Then practice several types of trading strategies with little amounts you can afford to lose, before you choose a trade pattern you duly understand.

Smart traders always stay away from any fake news or pump signal. During dump market people were sell pump signal in private. I think during bullrun holding is the right decision to make huge profits. You have to lose some money, if you wants to learn how to trade.

I agree, They are self proclaimed crypto analyst experts who they say will make money for you by buying or joing in their crypto signal group which I think they just a sham and copying their trade patterns and analytics from real professionals. And Even professional traders could not even predict what exact projection of the market, so right better stick with your own instinct and knowledge

The signal peddlers as the Op Says are not new to this market. There have been stories of pump and dump schemes during the early days of Bitcoin when it was trading in the range of 20 and 30 dollar . There are also various telegram groups which lure gullible investor's into pnd schemes . Be careful

We should not trusting trading signal groups, they can scam us by multiple ways.
Although there are some real trading signal groups, most of them are scam because they already bought before giving the buy signal or vice versa.

With the current market, it is volatile before but it is much worst now. We have leverage trading now and margin for sure there are so many traders that loss and there are also traders that gain profits, Now you are talking about these trading services and analysts. Maybe there are trying to gain funds to have a bigger margin on trading or to make up for their losses so be careful not to fall in this kind of scam. Trading tutorials can be found online for free and you can learn from it but make sure you know what you are doing before trying it on the exchange.

Another thing that cryptocurrency traders need to be careful about is that the volatility that we sometimes see with cryptocurrencies is highly correlated to any number of financial and market movements, and these can get the market price significantly off kilter. If you're trading a lot in cryptocurrencies, that can be a constant worry.

The underlying technology behind crypto-currencies, a decentralized cryptocurrency network, is also subject to slowdowns and other roadblocks, which can cause a temporary market drop in prices. If you think it's risky to trade these currencies, then certainly it's also risky to trade all the stocks in the world in the short term, and that's a risk that doesn't go away in the short term.

There are many fake analyst/traders/predictorist on every single social media like Telegram channel , Facebook and twitter, we all have noticed . When the bull begin properly and you'll see all sort of scams popping up every minute some one gets lucky sometime . The self declared analyst/fuddin talkers just avoid them . In my opinion they do this special and most times for their own interest. If you are a trader do your own research before do any investing .

The best way is to let your own instincts, and knowledge helps you to make a profit, if your knowledge is not enough, cultivate it. Don't trust anyone, no matter how famous they are. Even an analyst with years of experience can't be sure that their predictions are correct. So stay away from self-proclaimed analysts.

That's usually the pattern. There is always increase in analyst when Bitcoin is morning and they begin to bring out their TA's showing where bitcoin is likely to reach in price which so many innocent people do follow and get caught in major dip. The so called analyst will go into hiding during these period. Let's be careful and not fall into wrong hands.

If you notice lately, after the bitcoin halving, there are so many predictions around.
My advice is this, presently the situation is 50/50; and you have to ensure make sure that you stay up to date with your research functions.
Do your own research, ignore analyst and focus on elearning new strategies

Oh, it was always, but when we have green colors on the streets it's always worst. I think it is a bad decision to join one of this signal groups and just one chance to earn from it , but only if you are its owner.

Before we decided to buy a coin, we must analys where it will go, we must set our target in every trade. Don't trust signal channel that give you signal for trade, maybe they just want to buy their coin, its mean your buy position = their target profit. Always using your best knowledge, and beware about scam from joining channel.

Even you are trading based on trading Signals from telegram groups, twitter groups or any social media handles I would say you have to be extremely careful because some of them are paid to do so and some have provided wrong signals that made many jump in coins without verifications. It's best you do your own research than following what people say.

Exactly, even some so-called paid signal groups are garbage. Sometimes i just laugh when some telegram channels post supposed successful signals given to VIP channel, luring gullible traders to join the VIP channels. A friend paid 2000$ to join a paid group and still lost about 1300$ from their leverage trading buy call. Best way to succeed in crypto is to stick to what works for you as OP mentioned.

Even before the halving, there were predictions.
I could remember, a friend sent an analysis made by some who call themselves experts, but in the real sense, are learners. Immediately I saw it, I knew something was wrong about it. In fact, not too long after telling him, I started pointing out the opposites of what they said, which was very obvious.
Even if they have predicted correctly in the past, that does not mean they cannot make mistakes.

I agree with this opinion. I think it is more satisfying if we do our own analysis.  Because of brave analysis should be done in trading.  We must predict everything in right position.  So we never make mistake. 

I think we just need to stick with our own position and not have to follow what is there, if we already have a very mature plan, then the best results we will get, I think it can be the thing that I feel right now only needs to determine what is indeed the best for us

   Sticking to your own position is long-term holding! It's how I see your statement and I agree with that! Mature
plan can only be long-term investment in project you believe in. This is what I do, I choose projects by their ideas,
and how they plan to realize that! For me crypto-currencies are the future, and this early period is great for
making long-term positions while prices are low and we can afford to invest! Not everyone can buy whole Bitcoin
now, in future it will be more expensive, it will be the same with many alt-coins, buy them cheaper now, or pay
more in the future.

Signals from truly intelligent traders are of course information that is trustworthy, but no one has canceled the rule - trust, but verify, and this is very important. Information from one source is partially true. Therefore, think with your own head and monitor information from different sources. Trust yourself.

A person is most often teaches from their mistakes. But this does not always have to be the case. Personally, I sometimes follow external sources, but I make most of my decisions from my own judgment.
Many times forecasts and guaranteed tips will not come true. Certain information from the world of cryptocurrencies is good to watch. Own experience is priceless.

I don't always believe in predicted charts, it's best to stick to what you know, many speculation are fake. Some just give signal tho, to the best of there analysis, it's then up to individual to follow or not, just like the poster gas said,  try to avoid signal peddlers, it's can be a real to dump on you or make you go broke. If you can understand the market to trade at your own analysis, it's better than fall into traps of signal peddlers.

You're right. However, analysis skills like reading charts and other analyzing techniques are helpful as well. However, there's nothing for sure. Improving your knowledge, analyzing skills and studying other techniques are critical for trading!

yes, I think the rise in the price of bitcoin and some of the top altcoins currently does not indicate that the bull run phase, people think that now is a good time to sell because seeing the price of bitcoin has passed the price of $ 9k. I think being a trader or investor needs to analyze the market very carefully or not in a hurry to sell.

Bull run is the most appreciated time in crypto, cant argue with that.
but nothing is certain, and for sure anyone that claiming they know what will happen in the market is just
a guy who goes with co incidence and might run out of luck in the near future

There are no accurate signals and sometimes the market movement is opposite of what the signal says, but use the signal to collect part of your analysis because sometimes the signal can help minimize investment losses if the updated news is accurate.

Much of the market is being manipulated, we did not a lot of sustained rally that a lot of persons expected with the bitcoin halving and the market has pretty much been unstable, I believe things will eventually turn bullish, a least the dip we are still above the 8k levels

if the price of Bitcoin is still above $ 8000 I feel it is still safe to hold, the price can bounce again from there, it is very visible when yesterday's Bitcoin price dropped to $ 8800 and bounced to $ 9200 again this indicates that bitcoin is strong, so don't worry

If they can analyze more, they will find that this time is not a good time to sell because this time is good to buy more. But if they want to make scalping trade, and they have skills, then they can sell the coin and wait for a while to buy back at a low price. But it is difficult to do that thing at this moment because the market is hard to predict where it will go, so we need to be wise to do what we want.

I think they must be careful about fake prediction always. Actually everybody knows at present time maximum predictions are wrong that traders believed at primary stage of crypto market. So in this crisis moment, they must thing 2nd or 3rd time before investment though there may be high prediction. So i also suggest traders don't trade with other decision and make your own research.

You are not mistaken, in fact it is true that many traders or investors rush to sell their coins for several reasons and assume that the current increase in BTC prices is bullrun. I think bullrun occurs when the price of BTC can be significant to the price of $ 20k.

I have participated in many signal channels and the lesson I learned is that it is a mistake, most signal channels are bad. Moreover, you can not actively follow the movements of the market, which is a weakness when trading on signals.

Before doing any business, one has to acquire knowledge about it. The crypto business needs more of it; Because the number of invisible miscreants is more here. As I have seen in my own experience, so-called self-proclaimed crypto analysts or experts at different times; Most of the predictions they have made or analyzed have not been accurate. In this case many have done it for the purpose of their personal or group profit. Therefore, before trading with any currency, one must study the trends of the previous chart of that currency. Not on the advice of others; You should invest in thinking by analyzing your own judgment.