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Title: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: Fatg83 on February 13, 2020, 12:32:13 PM
https://promineruk.com/product/bitmain-antminer-s17-100th-s-1500w-psu-by-prominer/

They sell 100 th product. There is no such product. Fraudulent website promineruk.com

https://prnt.sc/r1rg59


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: PROMINERUK on February 22, 2020, 06:27:40 PM
Hello,

My name is Tim Cullen.

I'm the CEO of Crypto Asset Mining LTD (promineruk.com)

As you can read in the description this product is an original Bitmain Antminer S17+ 73Th/s with additional improvements from us.

As far as I understand, you are not our customer, which makes your comment libel. I expect you to provide us with information about your successful order and failure on our part within 48 hours. If you do not, we will take legal action and we will claim damages for which you will have to compensate us.

We are the only company in this sector with such a high rating. Don't forget it!


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 23, 2020, 08:40:08 PM
Mr. Tim Cullen (if that's your real name or there really is a Tim Cullen)

I paid and got nothing. I have tried to contact you several times, no one is answering.
My number was blocked from whats app. Calls are not being answered.
Stop talking about TrustPilot.com. I have written a negative comment there. It will not be published. Why not?

I tell everyone who wants to order something from promineruk.com not to do it!
I HAVE PROOF THAT IT IS A FAKE!

How do you comment this?

Greetings
Driton


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: logfiles on February 23, 2020, 08:50:04 PM
Mr. Tim Cullen (if that's your real name or there really is a Tim Cullen)

I paid and got nothing. I have tried to contact you several times, no one is answering.
My number was blocked from whats app. Calls are not being answered.
Stop talking about TrustPilot.com. I have written a negative comment there. It will not be published. Why not?

I tell everyone who wants to order something from promineruk.com not to do it!
I HAVE PROOF THAT IT IS A FAKE!

How do you comment this?

Greetings
Driton
We need more of that proof here to show that they are liars or scammers. Can you please provide it alongside Chat logs, proof of payment or transaction etc. If i find that the evidence is more than compelling enough, i will leave them a negative rating on their profile.
It's funny how their account was just created to respond to the accusations that have been here for a while  :-\


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 24, 2020, 10:14:47 AM
Surely I am willing to show more evidence so that this does not happen to anyone else and promineruk.com has no more victims.
You see the mail with the confirmation that the money was transferred.
You see the whatsapp news. The DHL number was a fake. After I wanted the money back, I was blocked.

Promineruk.com never replied. No mails, no whatsapp. Calls were not taken.

Do you need more information?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfsybz546ocbvd6/order_complete.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jky4verimxjfnz0/1_WhatsApp.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4d4vldlvn5qyyns/2_WhatsApp.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ir6pjq6mjwklqip/3_WhatsApp.jpg?dl=0


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: PROMINERUK on February 24, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
Surely I am willing to show more evidence so that this does not happen to anyone else and promineruk.com has no more victims.
You see the mail with the confirmation that the money was transferred.
You see the whatsapp news. The DHL number was a fake. After I wanted the money back, I was blocked.

Promineruk.com never replied. No mails, no whatsapp. Calls were not taken.

Do you need more information?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfsybz546ocbvd6/order_complete.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jky4verimxjfnz0/1_WhatsApp.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4d4vldlvn5qyyns/2_WhatsApp.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ir6pjq6mjwklqip/3_WhatsApp.jpg?dl=0

Hello,

I'm Lester from ProMineruk.com

Can I know your order ID to check this case?

Kind Regards


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 24, 2020, 10:57:07 AM
I'll send you the order number, but only as a private message.
But if I want to send you a message:

User 'PROMINERUK' has not chosen to allow messages from newbies. You should post in their relevant thread to remind them to enable this setting.


Please allow messages from newbies.


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: PROMINERUK on February 24, 2020, 12:46:59 PM
I'll send you the order number, but only as a private message.
But if I want to send you a message:

User 'PROMINERUK' has not chosen to allow messages from newbies. You should post in their relevant thread to remind them to enable this setting.


Please allow messages from newbies.

Hello,

I'm Lester from promineruk.com

Please share your order ID here. You have made the case public and let it remain that way. Everyone deserves to know the truth.

Kind Regards


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: PROMINERUK on February 24, 2020, 01:00:04 PM
Mr. Tim Cullen (if that's your real name or there really is a Tim Cullen)

I paid and got nothing. I have tried to contact you several times, no one is answering.
My number was blocked from whats app. Calls are not being answered.
Stop talking about TrustPilot.com. I have written a negative comment there. It will not be published. Why not?

I tell everyone who wants to order something from promineruk.com not to do it!
I HAVE PROOF THAT IT IS A FAKE!

How do you comment this?

Greetings
Driton
We need more of that proof here to show that they are liars or scammers. Can you please provide it alongside Chat logs, proof of payment or transaction etc. If i find that the evidence is more than compelling enough, i will leave them a negative rating on their profile.
It's funny how their account was just created to respond to the accusations that have been here for a while  :-\
Hello,

I'm Lester from promineruk.com

I don't see anything funny about that. We will answer all the accusations on the web and clarify the situation. We do not have accounts in every website or forum.

Kind Regards


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 24, 2020, 01:01:43 PM
Hi Lester

I absolutely agree with you. Everyone should know the truth.
The order number is # 671

What can you say about it?
Please inform the public that you have sent the goods.


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: PROMINERUK on February 24, 2020, 04:00:18 PM
Hi Lester

I absolutely agree with you. Everyone should know the truth.
The order number is # 671

What can you say about it?
Please inform the public that you have sent the goods.

Hello,

I'm Lester from promineruk.com

I did my checking.

Order 671 was made on 12/01/2020 and was paid via PayPal. Your "evidence" shows that it was paid with crypto, which is not true. I have attached screenshots from our system and from PayPal.

- https://promineruk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/proof1.jpg
- https://promineruk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/proof2.jpg

As for the chat, he's never been with us. Anyone can rename a contact and attach a photo to it.

The reason your review was not published in TrustPilot.com is because you are a liar and this site has 25 systems that keep track of real reviews. This is why you have to write in forums and other gossip websites.

I'll invite the real client to leave his review about order 671 here.

I strongly suspect that you are from a Turkish mafia that has been deceiving people for over two years. You have attacked us in every way possible, but know that we will make sure that you are caught and sentenced outside your country!

Kind Regards


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: Fatg83 on February 24, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
You are a cheater. You are a fake seller. I definitely think he's a jerk.
promineruk.com scammer website !


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: crypto_learner on February 24, 2020, 05:38:53 PM
So, I think that this company looks legit for 2 reasons;
1) It exists with its registration in UK (Incorporated on Jan 4, 2019 but not renewed this year, keep reading)
2) It offers you a PayPal method which I believe is safe considering it has purchase protection (I might be wrong about that) in case you do not receive the item as described or at all, you an open a case with PayPal.
BUT
Doing just a basic search showed that this company is going to be dissolved within 2 months. Search their registration number 11750907 for UK and it will take you to following website under tab "Filing History"

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11750907/filing-history

This will show you that they filed to be dissolved on Feb 20, 2020 (4 days before when "Supposedly" Tim was replying that this company is legit and claims of scam are false.

I do not know what does this mean or if it means anything at all, but I'd rather wait for 2 months and see if this company has been renewed. I'll be happy to learn more about a company being dissolved in UK or anything else related to this matter.

I wanted to add screenshots but didn't know how to add that as I literally made this account right now to add to this topic since I understand the frustration of ongoing scams these days as I myself has been looking for these ASIC miners for past 3 weeks and almost every other website I land on looks fishy when I do the search on this website or reddit. I am not comfortable in making a purchase with crypto for 2 reason
1) No purchase protection
2) Too much additional cost related to it (when you buy crypto, let's say on Coinbase then you pay not only a higher exchange price than the actual one but also the commission fee)

So, I only look for websites which can offer me to purchase either with PayPal or with my credit card.

Anyone else who has positive experience in buying these ASIC miner and wanna share their experience, I'll be happy to learn.


Thanks


Hi Lester

I absolutely agree with you. Everyone should know the truth.
The order number is # 671

What can you say about it?
Please inform the public that you have sent the goods.

Hello,

I'm Lester from promineruk.com

I did my checking.

Order 671 was made on 12/01/2020 and was paid via PayPal. Your "evidence" shows that it was paid with crypto, which is not true. I have attached screenshots from our system and from PayPal.

- https://promineruk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/proof1.jpg
- https://promineruk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/proof2.jpg

As for the chat, he's never been with us. Anyone can rename a contact and attach a photo to it.

The reason your review was not published in TrustPilot.com is because you are a liar and this site has 25 systems that keep track of real reviews. This is why you have to write in forums and other gossip websites.

I'll invite the real client to leave his review about order 671 here.

I strongly suspect that you are from a Turkish mafia that has been deceiving people for over two years. You have attacked us in every way possible, but know that we will make sure that you are caught and sentenced outside your country!

Kind Regards


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 24, 2020, 06:05:06 PM
@promineruk

Sure I'm from the Turkish Mafia ... it's getting really embarrassing ...

Show us pictures of your business!
Show us a video that shows how an Antminer works with 100TH / s and 1500 watts.

On the website https://promineruk.com/about-us/
If you see the employees:
TIMOTHY CULLEN - timcullen@promineruk.com
LESTER BUSH - lester@promineruk.com
ASA GRAY - asa@promineruk.com
DAVID WOOD - david@promineruk.com

Why can't you reach any of these people via email? There is only one undeliverable message.

As for the chat, I am in contact with other people who have also written with prominer in the whatsapp. There you can see that it is the same number as in my chat.

I really can't believe that you are still trying to be a no fraud


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: crypto_learner on February 24, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
Which method of payment did you use, if I may ask?


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 24, 2020, 06:48:47 PM
I paid with BitCoin.


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: crypto_learner on February 24, 2020, 07:53:10 PM
I hope you get better compensation. If I were you, I'd try reaching out to there phone mentioned on their website in their business hours, send emails to all team members maybe and see if it helps at all. I don't know how but I'd think of doing a voice recording of my call with them (considering they'd answer the phone).


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 24, 2020, 08:30:35 PM
What else can I do but prevent others from making the same mistake... I may never see my money again.


If you watch my whatsapp video, you will see the promineruk number +44 7497 303 699
https://www.dropbox.com/s/miiguhy7cct6l08/Screen_Recording_20200224-171738.mp4?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/miiguhy7cct6l08/Screen_Recording_20200224-171738.mp4?dl=0)

Currently promineruk.com has changed the number. So if you go to the website now you will see the number +44-795-705-8326

Fortunately, I haven't visited promineruk.com on my other laptop for a long time. So I was able to display an old version of promineruk.com via cache. Also watch my video from my other laptop.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq1e9o8vd5fvjy9/Screencast_24.02.2020_20%3A56%3A07.webm?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq1e9o8vd5fvjy9/Screencast_24.02.2020_20%3A56%3A07.webm?dl=0)

There you can still see the old previous number: +44-749-730-3699
So this one I've been chatting with.

So how can Lester say we've never been in contact with whatsapp? I contacted this number which was on the website as PROMINER contact number.

The trick with the cache (showing the old version of a website) is no trick at all. You can google it. "webcache.googleusercontent"

I hope now that's proof enough. Or do I need to show you more?


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: DanielRo on February 24, 2020, 08:51:47 PM
Unbelivable. They are spaming android games with fake product.
https://m.imgur.com/a/3N2Yk9L (https://m.imgur.com/a/3N2Yk9L)


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: JeromeTash on February 25, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Has your issue been resolved yet OP?
You said you paid with Bitcoin, is it possible for you to provide the transaction id in the thread for easier follow up. If i all the evidence you provided is adding up then they deserve a negative tag and type 1 flag from DT members at least until they refund your money


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 26, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
No, the problem still exists.

The transaction ID is:
0e9388378dd11en60acbce45c623c5bc8e74523917703ec062cb59534365379c

But the recipient cannot be determined, can it?



Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: JeromeTash on February 27, 2020, 08:06:35 AM
No, the problem still exists.

The transaction ID is:
0e9388378dd11en60acbce45c623c5bc8e74523917703ec062cb59534365379c

But the recipient cannot be determined, can it?
I want to verify and confirm that there was a transaction between the 2 parties before i can leave them a negative rating and a trust flag but the TX ID seems to be invalid, can you please send a valid TX ID? Maybe you made a mistake when copying it.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blob50bd3e086b87657e.png


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: de.2245 on February 27, 2020, 11:01:14 AM
Hi JeromeTash

The ID is correct.

0e9388378dd11de60acbce45c623c5bc8e74523917703ec062cb59534365379c

see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4xl68t827ilpx5r/btc.png?dl=0


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: cryptodevil on February 27, 2020, 01:37:20 PM
Yes, OP, they are a scam website.

Repost from the other promineruk.com thread:

My name is Tim Cullen.

I'm the CEO of Crypto Asset Mining LTD (promineruk.com)

Bullshit. I mean, sure, a Tim Cullen is listed as being the Director and Shareholder of Crypto Asset Mining Limited (https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11750907), but I'm pretty sure you're not him.

You see, Timothy Paul Cullen (https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/964Vpfkz3Hf9BrwyhbuigSZM4pE/appointments) has a history of being appointed to quite a few companies as an accountant providing officer services to those companies:
Quote

But when it comes to Crypto Asset Mining Limited, a company which is about to be struck off the register, there are some additional disturbing facts:
Quote

Not only is this company purporting to be trading as 'promineruk', it is also behind the scammy 'investment' mining website 'crypto2mining'
Quote

DO NOT VISIT THE WEBSITE OF CRYPTO2MINING - it is infected with a malware downloader:


Quote

My theory is that Timothy Cullen has no idea about the scammy activities of the actual people behind this operation, he may not even be aware that he is appointed in the first place as there are a couple of clues which suggest his registration as the Director and Shareholder are not set up quite right (I won't divulge as it is a frequent mistake that scammers are inclined to make when doing this).

In any event, OP, I believe you are correct, promineruk.com is a scam and I have tagged their account and raised a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1409) accordingly.




Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: JeromeTash on February 27, 2020, 11:55:59 PM
Hi JeromeTash

The ID is correct.

0e9388378dd11de60acbce45c623c5bc8e74523917703ec062cb59534365379c

see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4xl68t827ilpx5r/btc.png?dl=0
This one now works, there was a problem with the first TX ID, probably one single character was omitted. It's confirmed that you sent them money and along with cryptodevil's findings, They are proven scammers and i am going to leave some negative feedback.


Title: Re: promineruk.com Scammer ! Fraud website
Post by: John_Ahmet on March 02, 2020, 08:44:02 AM
Everything is like a joke! He defrauds many people and throws all the blame on the Turks.

I was about to order. I would order 2 pieces of this ASIC device. Thank you to @cryptodevil and @ de.2245.

Also, Turks are much more innocent than this crook named Tim.