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Will it be wise if this forum put up a request that ALL NEW PROJECTS EXPECTING TO RUN BOUNTIES SHOULD PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS BEFORE CONDUCTING ANY BOUNTY OR run an ESCROW.
The fund will be use to settle hunters should incase project owners Refuse to pay hunters Or decides to play tricks with hunters payment after a successful bounty campaign. For over a long period, hunters has been crying and wailing about successful campaigns that has refused to make payment. there are new campaigns on-going and more projects will run bounty campaigns sooner or later. the issue of payment is still a lingering problem here with No solid profound solution. Apart from the fact that some projects has the ANN Thread labelled as SCAMS, it is still do not offer solutions to payments.

the idea above is just a suggestion.. we all hope that a perfect solution will solve this issue of projects refusing to settle hunters here and will promote this platform.

Good idea ,however its hard to do it now its been a habbit since the beggining of ICO  it will be harder for new project to follow that kind of rules.

Besides the thrend of ICO is ended you can see it in bounty section that only few project started thier own ICO .
The better option for bounty is do it dual option paid tokens and paid the other half with bitcoin or eth.i remember there is project doing that before, so bounty hunters will never ending up nothing to recieve after the success of ICO.

You have a good point but at the same time if every projects start paying before bounty it still doesn't stop the fact that those coins can be worthless or scam, you can get paid of a token or coin that won't be useful for anyone,

Secondly the moderators on this forum have enough jobs on their hands, that won't be a easy task for those who look after this forum, moderators are humans like us and not super humans

There were so many ideas about it here. A lot of people commented a lot about bounty tokens. And they all had one thing in common. No one realizes that the forum is an autonomous space. Just like you are now. This way, an audit, distribution and escrow job will not be officially provided by the forum. This never attracted the attention of forum management.

Actually this is a good suggestion but it is difficult to do because the rules will not be applied in this forum if there are really rules so there will be many bounty programs not in this forum but in their social media links or making their own platforms too much already done by many projects so I think this rule might not happen.
If you want the project to succeed and a large dump does not occur, then the bounty payment must be paid with BTC or ETH, there will be many successful coins and will not die.

This is a good idea but the top Hero members must make the solution for such worst reaction by some successful project which has refused to pay bounties. I suggest we all bounty hunters make a telegram group when any successful project did not pay the bounty to the hunters then every hunter must share one post in all social media against the reputation of the project, But give warn first OR bound the ICO/IEO project to prefund the tokens to BTT moderator (there must be some incentive to moderator for this work) as proof and the moderator distribute those tokens to hunters as per the project rules and individual stakes.

It only happens if BM handling the campaign will secure first the payment before it started ( just like a few managers) and been escrowed. But this never gives assurance of its future or its market value after the IEO/ICO is done. Though they receive their rewards but couldn't imagine how this project turns into shit and no value token in the market. It still meant nothing and all the efforts and time spent by the participants are still wasted.

It is nice to hear that the funds are escrowed already but having a scenario like this...still it gives you a doubts if this project is legit or not.

This has already discussed so many times in the past but the decision will be on the developer itself. So many times the hunters have already suggested the developer at least to deposit the tokens or native coins to the escrow but they are still refusing it. What we can do to hope if they can do that in the future.

It is a good suggestion but the problem is how it will be implemented, usually, bounty campaigns are just paid by its native tokens. until it's not listed yet it remains a useless token, if your suggestion was implemented it will be a solution to the problems of the bounty hunters. because nowadays more and more projects become so tricky by not following its own written rules like delaying bounty payments, adding requirements after the bounty was ended, things like that, etc. but in fairness to the honest bounty clients, I hope that your project will be prospered.

Of course, this is a good suggestions, but I think we have heard this before and up to know only few bounties have put some escrows to ensure that bounty hunters are going to be paid.

However, we all know that bounty hunting is like gambling on your end, you join some projects which we don't know if it going to be a success or not. And chances are, most of them didn't get their soft cap and in turn doesn't want to pay those bounty hunters. So it's really a choice for members here which bounty to join or whether they are willing to take that bit risk.

I understand your ramblings, but if you look at bounties, the project doesn't have the funds initially, most of the time the project started from scratch when they announced it. So what are they going to escrows or where do the money should come when in the first place they don't have any.

I understand our suggestions, but I don't think it will be effective for the 99% of the projects that we have right now.

Well, if bounty accepts this rule then I believe we will never see any scam projects in this market. All bounty hunters will receive their money after completing the mission. But that is impossible because no new project will accept it. The scam and denial of payment will continue and continue in the future

That's a good idea but will the admins of this forum oblige to this kind of request, we really need to moderate this crowdfunding they are using this venue to scam and generate funding and they are all free to do whatever they want, glad that we have people good at exposing this scam project, I hope we have an escrow for all bounty rewards, there are too many bounties not given to bounty hunters in the past and until now.
  

The thing is it would be hard time to find first a bounty campaign that will follow those kind of payment rules because as of no I can say that bounty is dead in which there are a lot of bounty out there but still no one cares to join it because they are traumatic on what happened way back then. If this policy will be implemented in which after the bounty hunters finish their job on promoting the project then they will already have the payment to their job and I can say that it really matters.

Yeah surely there will be many who reject the rules like this fraudulent project will not want to use the rules of this forum so they will use what they want or use another platform.
It seems like the bounties will be at peace if there are rules like this.

The implementation of this rule will save the time of bounty hunters but I doubt this suggestion will pass in this way. Some modifications are surely required, the $ worth is the main case here. No one will want to waste the valuable time for small bounty allocation, so it is all connected in circle. Breaking this chain doesn't look like possible in a single step.

I do not know much as regards if the forum can do that.
And that's why there are terms and conditions regarding payments on every ieo Bounties

Join escrowed Bounties
Dyor on  unescrowed Bounties.

Actually, I already have that in mind but I am still thinking how feasible it is. We should be thinking about how it will protect the Bounty Hunters' interest at the same time protecting the Project Team.

1. The Project Team should have a minimum allotment for individual insurance for the bounty hunter.
2. The Bounty Hunter should comply with the requirements given by the Project Team to claim the insurance tokens or coins.

There will be technicalities about how to claim the coins/tokens so there are no bogus accounts that can claim other's rewards. I think ESCROW and third party high reputable team should handle the said funds.

I believe this all goes down to the campaign manager.  The forum has nothing to do about the bounty campaign nor it runs it.

Bounty payments should be secured by the bounty manager. It should be one of his responsibility as the one who manages the campaign.  The bounty manager can act as an escrow and at the same time the campaign manager and I see nothing wrong with that.  It is for the interest of all the party, project owner removing themselves from the burden of bounty reward distribution, the campaign manager making sure that the participants are getting paid and participants were reassured that the payment is in an escrow hand.

This thing will only be difficult if the project owner has no intention of paying the bounty participants or the manager himself wanted to scam the participants.

Maybe it is possible if this is pushed through and many hunters would support it. The only thing that bugs me is that of how much is the intitial payment of the hunters? Would it be bitcoins or eths or the likes? I know it will be little but it will give fuel for those who keep on hunting even just for pennies. This is a good idea because hunters of course would be tagged if they refused to their jobs given the initial payment is sent.

Scams are not moderated here so it will be not possible to make such rule from the forum administration but why bounty hunters join on such projects,let the bounty team look for hunters,make demand for yourself first then only your voice will get attention here.

First and foremost, the forum doesn't regulate (moderate) signature or bounty campaign therefore they're not responsible for making promoters of such projects get paid after a successful promotion. It's your duty as a promoter to do your personal research and also set sine guidelines to prevent you from falling victims if these scammers.

Don't promote project that don't have escrow funds or unrealistic goals or ideas like those setting imaginary price for their token that isn't even listed on exchanges or done with their crowdfunding. You can even take it a step further by only promoting project willing to pay you in well established cryptocurrency like bitcoin.

ICO business is almost dead man, now it's time for the IEO which killed the bounty business.
A crypto project do not need so much marketing now, all it has to do is listing it's IEO into one decent exchange & that's it, the user base of that exchange if the best marketing it can get.

It so hard that you'll find an ICO that puts his tokens in a escrow wallet, that's why people aren't willing to invest in ICO anymore, they prefer buying it when it hit the exchanges instead.

It would be wise if this is how bounty campaign works in the very beginning.
But sad to say that it is impossible since this forum or the admins/moderators is not responsible to filter each and every project for the sake of bounty hunters. It is bounty hunters' responsibility to find a better campaign and avoid the scams.

I think it will be difficult, because their project may not be successful and get a softcap.
coupled with prices that might come down by bounty hunters after receiving their payment.
so this idea will be a little detrimental to the dev I think regardless of the goodness of the project.

Aside from that reason,
Most of the bounty projects started with having no funds, for this reason, how are they able to pay a certain amount of funds. They are getting their allocation for the bounty payment from the funds they collected. It will be hard to initiate this kind of plan.

Your idea is good, but if we look at it from the perspective of the project owner, of course, it is very detrimental because they have to pay the campaign manager too. The use of escrow for bounty payments, in my opinion, is appropriate to prevent garbage campaigns. The price issue is another matter.

It's so sad when bounty hunters didn't get paid for their work. I can understand that pain as a bounty hunter. Now days it's so rare to see a good quality project, if there is found some one they offer so little amount (like penny) to bounty hunter for their work. In my opinion Escrow is the best option for bounty payment. And hunters should join that project which are hire by escrow for payment otherwise it's good idea to leave that project.

In that case project team will thought if BM scam there coin then (if BM escrow in that case)..? Well then good, trustworthy and reputed BM hiring is the best choice for that. If they are really care about their project then it's not a big thing for them i guess. If project team thought that bounty payment will dump there coin then they can arrange some step, like monthly payment (of course under four months).

Actually there is always a solution for every problem. But it's depend on people that they want it or not. Last past two years was really unexpected for bounty hunters. Hope this year will be profitable year for bounty hunters.

This idea is unnecessary,

Bounty hunters are participating in bounty campaigns at their own risk, bounty hunters are responsible to investigate the project they become part. If this idea was implemented it will be the same as how signature campaign on services section works, everything will change including the number of participants they can accept due to their financial ability.

Yes, someone from the forum administration or a senior member can be an escrow the second option that has been a demand by hunters for long is that bounty payments should be in usdt or btc or eth as it will be win-win for all parties and will also eliminate the bounty dumping allegations also it will make hunters happy and more will join this industry as it will become truly rewarding with such policies.

I think it is difficult to carry out this idea because all the projects on average they are looking for funds to develop the project, how can they pay bounty hunters if they themselves are looking for funds for the project, actually bounty hunters can find payments with bitcoin but the rules are very difficult

It's a good suggestion, however, take note that the forum is not created mainly for bounty hunting. The purpose of this forum is for users to share fresh ideas and new projects related to crypto. Bounties are just additional for those projects who would like to promote their project and those who will join are given free-will to do so aware of the risk of not getting paid or not getting anything from what they are promoting.

I also have been into a lot of projects and have stayed in bounties for several months before, and forum moderators have no total control over developers not paying bounty participants since anyone is free to promote to project without requirements from the forum. It is all up to participants to make their own research to weigh the legitimacy of a project before joining.

When they were running the bounty campaign and they must pay the bounty manager too but in this case, they are paying the campaign manager use their token.


It's not caused by this is an unnecessary idea but this idea is almost impossible to be implemented into the bounty campaign (altcoin) as the majority of those new projects have no financial ability to pay the hunters at first or at least deposit some percentage of the total allocation to the escrow.

If the developer will always stand with their decision and the solution will never be reached as there was no deal between the developer and hunters.

its a forum but bounties are still main part of this forum   . bounties help the forum grow and bounties have an impact on the overall crypto economy  and also on the forum reputation  . about the payment matters i agree on what the op have suggested and i think its suggested been here before all the time but i think the owner didnt approve this idea because bounties are still paying with thier own coins  .  the only one that escrows thier payment are sig campaigns that arent totally related to ico   . that is why most users prefer these type of campaign  .

I think if handled well, and maintain investor confidence, the prize for bounty hunters is not much. Doesn't every new product need a promotion to introduce to its customers ... so if done professionally, all parties will benefit

Only a very few projects accept escrow for bounty campaigns, and most of them are token escrow. Projects are mostly running a bounty campaign before their tokens are created, which in practice is difficult to ensure whether the project will be successful or not, so the majority of the project team will not impersonate. You spend a lot of money to promote.

Thats true even the team pay the hunters upfront nothing will change if these tokens are just shitcoins in the end. Its another display in our wallet right? Otherwise this is not the case however we know its not easy to determine a legit projects, it would be better if they pay the half of rewards in btc or eth and the rest in their own tokens, thats better but not possible for alts bounties to happen.

Thats the case for btc signature campaign but you cant put that up for altcoin campaign which still just launched their project since their goal is to raise fund. How come they can put up funds for certain campaign which I think is the least priority of every project. Very impossible, but some doing this but dont expect all to follow the same format for it.

Well, this is the real truth about bounties in ICO. Sometimes Dev delays the bounty payment for a lot of reasons.
So, using Escrow is a good idea to solve this problem.

Maybe that is a good idea and I there is some manager who have done it by the why. But for me, I hope the bounty campaign will be paid in existing coins especially ethereum. Or they (developer) can pay ethereum if the project is not listed on some exchange and they can pay with their own token which is being promoted by the bounty hunter if the project has been listed on the exchange and can be traded at least on some good exchange like binance or bittrex. With do that, most likely the scam project will never appear, because they must have a fund first before they have intention to promote their project on this forum.

It is better to promote projects that already have reserve funds so that we will get paid for sure and also on time to be honest I prefer campaigns like that compared to having to promote altcoin projects that are not so clear because they have to wait for a new successful fundraising we can but if it fails then we will get a token of no value.
It seems like now it will be included in the trend of BTC paid campaigns because now there are so many campaigns like that.

Sounds like an escrow plan but not all new projects will abide by this and I won't blame them because not all bounty manager can be trusted either, they can take over the bounty allocation tokens and do  anyhow with the tokens for example share few portion and keep the rest

Yes, currently not all projects use escrow to store their tokens, only a few projects make escrow, except for projects posted on this forum service, all of which have escrow and payments are also on time and payments are also mostly in the form of Bitcoin.

bounty with fixed rate in bitcoin or ethereum that usually posted in services board must using escrow to attract trust from participant and also forum member. if they dont use escrow usually trusted member will ask the bounty manager or team to do this.
if all campaign could do this rules i am sure risk of scam projects could decrease alot,

Only a few campaigns use escrow and I think it's a good idea if a campaign uses escrow because bounty hunters think the project is legit. But to see whether the campaign is good or not, I think choosing a long-time bounty manager is one way to determine whether the campaign is good or not.

That's already the job of an escrow, it's a way to secure the payment if ever the bounty would be successful or not. Escrow will secure that everyone will get paid according to the agreed budget of the developers with the manager.

It's not actually the job of the forum to add such requests and it has been a reminder that the forum doesn't monitor the scams, it's not their job but we as members can help each other to remind and have a say what are these projects.

Crypto society is a free society where everyone is not limited to do whatever they likes whether they are a genuine project owner or just a shit scammers. But your suggestion is not a bad idea for the forum moderators to consider in the future but it will take a time and effort for the individuals to do the job.

But if the forum will assign this task to the bounty managers before they launch any campaign then it will be good. I already saw some of the bounty managers are doing it like they escrow the funds of the bounty campaign but there are very few of them that are doing this job so if the mods will require this then we can lessen the chances that the bounty hunters will not be paid for their work.

Escrow is what many wants but not going to happen, there are still trust issues between developers/team and bounty managers, only very few new projects trust bounty managers with their tokens

The suggestion in good faith will helps the bounty hunters to make sure that the team will pay them after the period of promotions has been done.
Most of those new projects that keep popping around are not dealing with any escrow and simply runaway or do some escape alibis not to pay
the right amount or not to pay at all.
This kind of process can give small assurance to people who are engage with bounty huntings,.

The duty of hunters is to present a project to potential investors. the niche to harness a project and make it an marketable is such a huge talent. for hunters to strive and market a product takes time and dedication to convince individuals to invest their money into it. it is right to say that it is disheartening that at the end, owners regards hunters as worthless and valueless people. it raises to the point that the real owners of the project may not pay the physical staffs in the office working for these owners whenever the budget is low.

Have pity on the moderators, do you even now how hard it is to run this forum you are on right now? It's not easy mate and to even conduct a bounty campaign as a bounty manager is extremely stressful, moderators can't do this all, they are humans like us too

I think it would be great and in fact the mods could also gain some extra money from it,
If they act as an escrow they would surely be paid,
And about the scam or worthless rewards I think it would be great if the escrow would also hold some funds for the bounty participants.
Let's say their promise fund is $100K for the bounty then the escrow would hold 50% before the bounty even starts and the participants could choose to be paid with any crypto that they like.

only good campaign and bonafide that will disposed to use escrow. they have their own fund to promote their project and didnt depend on tokensale result. so they will continue the project although didnt even reach softcap. but usually this kind of campaign only provide small allocation cause the want price stable in market.

This largely depends on the bounty managers, as for bitcointalk, I don't see them forcing anymore implementing such policy as regards bounty since the main purpose of this forum is not about bounty but majorly education. The onions are mainly on the manager and people should avoid shitty projects too.

That can work perfectly if the bounty payment is in bitcoin or usdt so the participants will not have to worry if the project will be a scam. But so far, almost the bounty campaign pays the participants with their token/coin, so that makes the participants sad if the project is a scam. Besides that, I don't think that the team will agree to apply for the payment in bitcoin because they need to allocate some bitcoin for their participants. All in all, I think that is a good idea to prevent the scam project in the future.

Bounty payment matters and bounty is already dying,
So I suggest that for the future bounties they should make some payment that the hunter could already use or trade.
For example their bounty allocation should also be split into half of their project crypto and half into BTC,ETH or USDT,
In order to secure the reward of their participants and there should be an escrow for every bounty.

unless they pay in ETH, BTC or other strong coin, things will still be the same. There are some independent bounty platforms such as bountyhive that have adopted this in the past but the result is the same. till date, I have some token on mew that was given to me via bounty hunting and they arent listed in any exchange. It could even be worse than the dev team will give all the bounty hunters token and locked the token or decide to create a new smart contract different from the one that contains hunters' reward. I have experienced this in the past

I think in the forum, it is not Mandatory to use escrow for your Bounties.
but recent occurrences suggest that Bounties in the service section are mostly escrowed (that's where you get btc paying signatures)

For other Bounties, your research activities should guide you

Because of the lack of trust, the project developer must choose a manager who is truly trusted in managing their project or token, if this is not available, then the best choice is Escrow, not the others.

Indeed at this time the ICO project is very difficult for us to believe fully, and the idea that you explain will be the solution for all of us and I strongly agree because the current bounty hunters are very frustrated with the constantly running Scamer, to In the future, we hope there is a change so that the forum will grow and we as a bounty hunter can get the result of our work.

Definitely someone needs to come up with a escrow for each and every ico for the airdrop and bounty promised. To be fair I think there can be de centralised escrow service for all ico that are being conducted. That would be an awesome way to give trust on the project and also the bounty hunters.

I have been saying this for quite some time now, and unfortunately no one is willing to listen. Thousands (I'm not exaggerating) of bounties have scammed the participants and till now tens of thousands of bounty hunters have gone unpaid. Being a bounty hunter is the most unrewarding role in cryptocurrency market right now. I am glad that I am no longer doing any bounties. Had enough and made the exit in 2018.

I think it's not so important, we should be concerned that those projects need to be listed at the exchange, and the prices don't fall. From there the bounty hunter can get some money after the campaign ends. We do not need to receive the worthless tokens because it will be of no benefit to hunters

Your suggestion will protect the bounty hunters, however, it would not be possible as most of the projects that are running a bounty does rely only on what they can collect during the crowdsale, if BTC would be the payment, then probably we can make it possible, but most are paying their tokens or coins.

Indeed, bounty projects don't really have enough funds to start their project that's why they are gathering funds by undergoing initial coin offering. That is the only time when they can start to make a progress of their project once they have collected enough funds, that is why it is impossible for them to require to provide money for the security of bounty hunters.

Some managers do that.
One example is where I am joined at.
GeomaDao.
The manager is julerz12 which have the funds escrowed already into his account.
All of this depeends on the manager or the ICO company. The forum is not mandated to adjust with all of this payments.
Do it at your own risk.

That is a good idea. I joined bounties in the past years and some bounty payments were changed before the campaign ends. The sad thing is, it will be smaller. Of course participants will be disappointed especially if there are so many participants ( scammers or not ). Just wanna share to those who has no odea about this, active bounties in services that pays bitcoin are listed and always updated to be able to easily monitor which campaign is open, close, or paused, how much is the payment, etc.
It can be seen in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0)

if some person decides to participate in a bounty campaign, then he must always evaluate and accept all the risks that exist here. in our work, there is always a risk of being left without payment or getting paid after a very long time. I took part even in projects that were already on the coinmarketcap and carried out a bounty campaign and then simply did not pay people. one from such example is DEEX exchange.

I strongly agree with the idea that you have about all new projects must pay first and run escrow, it can reduce the scam of a project and reduce the trick of not paying bounty hunters.

Yeah, the best idea i think and it would be guaranteed payment for the bounty hunters. Definitely after this rules bounty will be changing but mostly the new projects will be oppose these rule. Even i think a lot of legit projects will go against in such rules. And payment should be stable coins likes BTC,ETH,USDT. But who guys will be escrow?               

I really and totally agree with what you just said! I participated in a bounty around August 2018 and we were paid weekly but uptill now the coin remain a scam coin. I prefer to participate in a bounty that last very long but at the end I benefit from it as I have do from bounty in the past. However I see all this as luck becouse some of the project we thought are genuine are scam and most time it is at the end of the campaign that we discover this.

I prefer to get paid even though the price of the token dropped dramatically or did not enter the exchange market, than I did not receive the payment, while the token from the project that cheated me turned out to have a high price on the exchange.

As mush as your idea may sound good, I don't think forum pays much attention to non btc paying campaigns, hunters should do their necessary research especially when you are doing alts campaign and make their own decisions base on the bounty you want to join,
Too many project are screwing hunters over too many times now, all we can do is try to be careful and only do bounty from trusted bm.

I see that more and more new bounty campaigns run only social media campaigns and bitcointalk signatures campaign are excluded from the lists. I am thinking why? Maybe the number of users here decreased? But it doesn´t make a sense. Where else you would find a focused audience than on this forum? Twitter, Facebook, Linkedins are now full of bots and fake profiles and bounty managers know it and despite it they do no make any changes.

yes i totally agree but this problem can be solved by not asking for money but asking for their time to pitch their project and get votes :
if they get the minimum votes they can list their project in bounty section only high rank members are allowed to vote this would be our own community voting listing. And voting doesn't require any extra work on the developers part all of these features are already in place.

 Members can ask all the right questions upfront before voting as this way  they can judge if the project team  is actually capable of making something as good as they claim in their whitepapers. This can be optional as well but the projects which pass through this procedure may get a badge on the bounty as verified.  

It's not even a new idea, people has been offered and discussed about this escrow thingy for several years yet new projects are so stubborn with their rules and regulation to actually release the bounty payments to escrow.

I think by actually saving the pool to escrow makes the project become more well known and could bring more investors because the funds are actually safe and you don't need to be afraid for not getting paid(how much is the reward is not a case here that's a different story)>

It is a good idea to be serious because you are right that payments have become an issue ever since in every bounty campaign for the case that there are some that does not pay even after the span of promotion time has been done leaving the bounty hunters set aside without pay. But the concern to raise up an awareness to the moderators of this forum of putting up the phrases you have said seems to be impossible since they are just maintaining that everything is going smooth. The issue seems to be bounded between the team behind the project and the investors as well as the bounty hunters so whatever happens inside will just be the concern of those parties inside it. Also, it will be hard for that policy to be made into action since a project promotion is being done to raise awareness for potential investors to come and project developers might be against such policy due to their own reasoning. Although we are all concern about such thing of payment, it will be real hard for the idea to be made into reality. But there are already existing projects having escrow so if you do want to assure payments, then better be looking for such projects having that element.

That's one solution, bounty that guarantees payment by escrow usually attracts greater interest. But that's actually not the final target, because even though using Escrow, there are no further steps for listing on the exchange also become in vain, right?
Overall, this drama has always had a domino effect and developers have always argued that they have the right to make cuts, delays, and lock rewards for bounty hunters in anticipation of a big dump. Oh, that's big bulls*it. If dev is worried about that, then it's best to give a BTC or ETH reward from the start, it's safer to keep the dump from the bounty hunter as expected.

The rest, as bounty hunters we must be prepared with all the risks, the worst is not paid, and our hard work ends in vain. Once again, that's a risk, friend.

This is a good suggestion though it has been discussed already in the previous years and up to now still nothing happens. I think it's our initiative already which bounty campaigns to join so we should make a thorough research about the project before participating in it. If the project fails and refuse to pay us, we have nothing to do but find another potential project again.

Yes the number of fails projects are increasing day by day and they are refused to pay for bounty hunters rewards.and it costs a lot of our time and hard work has been wasted so better to get a payment with weekly bases in any good coins like btc or any other altcoins.

As project types bounty promote is up to CEO that bounty is mandatory, request doesn't work. Now top exchange IEO doesn't need bounty campaign. This types of bounty support post we can make but don't work. Still I can't see any process which projects didn't distribute bounty payment because all devs is guessing bounty is free reward.

it is a risk to plunge into the world of bounties, because bounties nowadays there are a lot of failures so we have to be sincere if the projects that we follow fail so we have to find other alternatives to get money besides following the bounties

It is a wise decision but it is impossible to happen. This forum was not responsible to filter every project by requiring them to provide an early payment or hold their money by an escrow that can be use if ever that they don't pay bounty hunters. It is always on our end to look for bounty campaigns to participate with, it is also our responsibility to find a legit one.

many of these projects currently use prize hunters only to promote their projects and after that they don't want to pay for the prize hunter's top hard work. that's it's very sad and of course many prize hunters cry after their hard work is only paid for with tears. everyone has the right to ask for payment, but that is the problem right now. It should be SCAM projects not be held in this forum because that's it is very detrimental.
 

This is the reason why only few bounty hunter's continue to promote a project . If you see marketplace altcoin you will see the difference from what participants before and compare it to what it is now there mnay changes and participants reduce to almost nothing now.

That's right, I personally also experience things like you said, sometimes I also feel disappointed with projects that don't pay, because they have wasted my time for months, because time is a very valuable capital and a thing that is not can be repeated again.

Of course, I completely agree with you, but unfortunately I do not think there will be many such companies that will immediately transfer their tokens in escrow, and there are already such bounty platforms where they are engaged in this, but of course there are a lot of problems there.

It is great actually to have an escrow but too few would consider paying for an escrow service, because pretty much it is due to their own budget plan for the project. There will always be scams hiding in the shadows in the bounty board. A reputated BM could reduce the possibility of getting scammed in bounties, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that everything is still in the hands on those who manage it. Having an ETH payment is quite nice, but most bounties pay through stakes.

Not just oppose but totally will never agreed. You can make some exceptions such as xx coin having their signature campaign with btc payment even though they are still on their ICO stage. Ive remember metahash campaign by Irfan_pak10 which also gave ethereum as payment rather than the coin. But OP suggestion would mess up a lot of new projects if this will be implemented. Probably many will not agree to the terms if such new provision about this will come out.

This is a very good idea, but the problem is – this is a cryptocurrency space and there is nobody that will handle such work unless you’re referring to the mods in this forum because they are the ones that can at least be trusted with such a job, but I don’t think they will agree to do that. If cryptocurrency is something that is regulated/centralized, then such thing would have been possible.

So, it is not going to be possible, you just have to look for the projects that are really good and go for it. Any project that seems suspicious to you should be avoided so that you don’t end up in a situation where you will not be paid after your hard work.

If their projects are successful in funding sometimes there are some projects that do not want to pay bounty hunters while their projects continue, there are even cases of teams cutting bounty allocations without prior notice to the participants and this makes them disappointed because their work is only paid cheap when time campaign for quite a long time.

There's nothing we can do but ask for good bounty payments from the managers who take responsibility for the payments. Other participants might be annoyed with this kind of situation, but as a person with professionalism, we must understand and have patience over this matter. Some of these project that continued to prosper with their project have perfect time to pay their participants as long as they're getting updates from the team.

If any decide to be a bounty Hunter always know that you are on your own, you have to safe your neck, time and energy yourself by doing research, moderators have enough things on their hands to worry about, not legitimacy of new projects, it's none of their business

I actually don't know if its good or bad but it might be actually good but It's been a while since I have read a thread here in the forum about a bounty hunter that wasn't get paid but in order to protect the bounty hunters for their works and efforts.

Have you tried posting it to meta section moderators or DT-users might find this good but they're too busy to handle this matter and need to focus more on more serious discussion in the forum however, nothing to lose if you try at least.

The idea is very good, maybe if your idea is executed and the BTT forum approve it then the bounty hunters will worry about payment again, it will work quieter and most profitable if the project is good and successful. It could have been realised if everything was compact and posed this idea to the forum. I agree with this idea.

Except these payment's are made using stable coins if not there's no point paying escrow with native tokens which we do not know if it will turn out to be scam at the end or if they will ever make going to exchange.

Most members agree on what the OP suggests. Some people have also given suggestions to make a thread on the meta section for this, maybe they can get more effective advice from the special members there.

Well, I also consider this effective. Although it cannot later be made into an official rule, an effective first step is to start from the Bounty Manager. Bounty Managers can propose conditions for using escrow to be able to work with him, this will provide benefits in increasing the trust of bounty hunters, and can be a preventive way to maintain the reputation of the bounty manager. So that it will cause symbiosis of mutualism. And this will make "fraudsters" who from the beginning deliberately will commit fraud on the bounty hunter.

If you want an escrow service then I suggest you look no further than bountyhive, you will never miss a payment from the website, but that doesn't mean the tokens are always good or have good value, even on this forum there are few BM that makes sure that every hunters get paid

For me, I would rather join a bounty that is announce in the forum, I feel it's more transparent and people can investigate on the project well, and of course the rules of the bounty is final, in case the BM will scam, we can seek help from the community to red tag the scammer, and for sure with enough evidence we can get good support from the community.

You are promoting Reckoon bounty project which is available on bountyhive, the website uses escrow so I belief that's why you make this post, this forum is different from bountyhive because bountyhive is a bounty platform, this forum is not a bounty platform, all you can do is find trust bounty managers and you should b fine

Yes, and every Escrow also has a reputation of valuing each from the Bounty manager and the project developer, because if the Escrow is not honest, then the hunters will find it difficult to get paid, even if paid, it also occurs in a long period of time and even when the price of the token is no longer valuable in the market.

The payment for bounty is supposed to be paid. Doing bounty is not an easy job, this is a really difficult work to do, you have to make posts and at the same time you have to be sure that you’re writing really good posts and all that, it’s just not easy. It is really annoying when you do such a hard work and burning internet data for a long time and after all that they will not pay you.

It can be frustrating. Bounty hunters should be very careful on what projects they choose and avoid managers with bad records. You do have a good idea but another thing is whether it’s something that’s possible to be done or not.

If I can still remember vividly that, this topic was raised sometimes in the past and the conclusion was; the managers of the bounties should be one to ensure the security of the hunters rewards at the end of their bounties. This I see true because, many managers have never seek to protect the interest of the hunters but their own personal interest. Due to this fact, the hunters should always get ready to research into a project they intend to participate before cry fawls. Although, I have been victim several times and have learned my lesson from the past.

But to be honest, the budget on this site is too low, I've seen a lot of projects that attract thousands of participants but the budget is only about $ 10,000 or less. Agree with you we will definitely receive money but it is too little

This is a very good idea and an advantage for all the bounty hunters but the big question is that if the project team is willing to do it. We all know that the project team holds all the rules and changes on the rules of the bounty campaign. I think if the project team will do that, that is a good indicator that it is a legit and a good project.

Good thinking but some of these projects are just only ideas just like bitcoin and have no funds at all but it has been abuse by many people by creating some scam/fraud projects to earn money easily. It is really good idea I just notice that on BNB chain enable to issue a token at least you need 500 BNB and some projects cannot afford it that is why there are only few sh*tcoins on BNB chain compared to ETH. But ETH is the first of its kind so it is normal that is has a lot of users and no need big funds to create a token and BNB chain is just starting. Better check each project legitimacy there is a thread that list decent projects keep an eye on this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228629.0

With the escrow can provide a guarantee that the bounty hunter will be rewarded according to the initial agreement, without any reason to cut the allocation and other delays. This does not mean that bounty campaigns that do not use escrow are not profitable, but bounty hunters must also be prepared with all the risks, which is why choosing a reliable BM is also a consideration that must be prioritized before joining the bounty.

I agree with you so that the rewards will be received by the hunters guaranteed. Having a middle man or ESCROW would be a priorities, or one of forums admin should handle it since they are the ones running and the authorities to let the projects conduct or run a certain bounty campaigns. By this method the bounty community will grow and more project can be trusted then the crypto market will alolso benilefit as well.

yes, sometimes the role of escrow is indeed very important for payments to bounty hunters. but, I think for a project that is really good, trustworthy, and aims to be big, it will pay the bounty hunter according to the original agreement, that is what is referred to as a professional. however, sometimes unprofessional projects always delay payments.
well, to look for security in payment, escrow is indeed high value when a project is running.

Only a julerz manager escrow on his own bounty, every bounty he manages also uses escrow to make it safer and the allocation cannot be changed, but other managers cannot do it like julerz.

But the hunters also have to be smart in choosing bounties because in every campaign there is always a way for the team to change it, so I always see cooperative managers.

Bountyhive has not had a good name up there in a really really long time. And by good name I do not just mean bounties that pay out. That is easy to do and should be the minimum of a project. By good name I actually mean a real project where people actually do things well and promote good behaviors and have a real product and community.

I pray for such but never going to happen unless it's off this forum, this idea will be easy if it's from another bounty platform, any project that wants to use the platform must abide by the rules, as on this forum it's never going to be possible

Having an escrow to hold the funds is an assurance for bounty hunters that they will get paid for their effort to promote the project. This is not hard for the dev to provide an escrow if the project is legit right? But majority prefer to follow their own rules and let the hunters wait on when they will distribute the rewards, thats the sad reality.

Most people will agree with that, it just like guarantee the project will running on the right track. But we don't know how developer and BTT admin deal because that is not our space. Bounty hunter need their reward for their work but the problem is not finish in there, we also need the product ( coin ) listing on exchanges. Small reward is fine but ca listing is our hope also.

It's been long since I received payment from bounties and I've been promoting bounties since last year, all projects I've promoted are up to ten different projects and no single one payed yet, I will keep promoting bounty projects because I believe the time will come

Bounty payment ofcourse matters.
Either we work offline in offices or online as a bounty hunter or freelancers, the truth remains that we work for money.
And unless payments is discussed neither will work.

Hence the reason why we must join bounty programs that has a 80 - 100 % of payment to be made
Do your own research, join escrowed bounties, join reliable bounties

My suggestion

Presently there is nothing more painful than promoting a a scam or fake project for months and later on you detect of hear from others that the project you've been promoting for month turned scam, I've learned the hard way in the past, we just have to be careful which project we promoting

Bountyhive now is no longer like it used to be now many hunters who leave it because it often promotes nonsense projects meaning that after we get the token of results from bountyhive nothing can be sold because it does not have good value on the exchange. So now bountyhive increasingly empty of visitors.

We better look for bounties in the forum because we can assess the project and see the behavior of managers who always filter the project well.

Not only bountyhive, now most of the projects become failed. Few projects give payment but we can't sell that tokens. So bounty is now free work for the project from the bounty hunters. But real project is rarely come and their terms and conditions are not up to the hard work.

That's why we should only stick to popular campaign managers and avoid promoting scam projects.

We might not be able to stop them but we can just avoid and warn other members as much as we can to stop scam projects to victimize other users of this forum.

Yeah right, the time frame working with project should be assess properly. There's still project out there that still pay you decent, better to keep
trying and learned from your previous mistakes or experiences, as it's really the good way to pick any project to join in.
Knowing the right potential project that based with experiences gave you high chance to select the good one for your time.

Nice suggestion you draft out mate, the problem of team and developers not wanting to pay for bounty campaign has lingers for so long since the early days of icos. I think every bounty hunters have had a share of that experience. Many bountyanagers have tried implementing the escrow token system but the project developers won't just yield to the approach and there will always be some bounty manager guy out there who is always ready to take up the campaign no matter how shity the teams proposal is.

We cannot only be base on who manage the campaign we should do our own reaserch about the project before participating.

Manager paid for that job and we dont even know how they review a project before picking it to manage.
There will be good campaign manage by reputable manager but its not good always there is also a chance that they will run a scam bounty campaign or small payment  bounty campaign.

I understand your plight very well, so many bounty hunters have complained about same issue,after the success of a project ,paying bounty hunters becomes a problem,which is very bad,and it's not from the bounty manager but the team, so I think the manager should use an escrow to avoid such occurances and bounty hunters not to give him a bad record.

Well, that is basically true.
Participating in the campaigns handled by popular campaign managers is just another thing we should look for.

BM's are indeed being paid to manage a certain campaign, but for those popular ones, they are not just accepting projects to be paid, they are still investigating the project they handled to avoid ruining their reputation.

To reduce the risk of being scammed, besides joining a campaign managed by a well-known manager, you can also choose projects that use the concept of their bounty campaign escrow tokens, funds must be handled by the campaign manager for the convenience of both parties.

Of course! That's almost as standard thing to do before running a campaign. Sorry I'm not into bounty that's why I have no idea how things go through there. So don't tell me that there are existing bounty campaigns which don't have an escrow? If yes then that was very hilarious :o. How is it even possible? Well, now I know why there are so many hunters complaining about being unpaid :(. Escrow is a must because it gives assurance for its participants that they will get paid when the deadline comes. Make this as one of your main criterias on joining campaigns, without it already means a waste of your hope and time.

Yes, and apart from doing at least some research on the project you want to promote, although choosing a manager is also one of the reasons to avoid a fraud project, at least do a lot of preparation.

It should have been done a long time ago, but in my opinion if it is implemented now it is too late because the era of tbounty campaign is nearing extinction because there are now many projects, but the potential is only 1-3 of dozens of new projects that arrive every quarter and I'm sure even though escrow is just a waste of time, and yes, there are also many bounty managers who guarantee payment of bounty campaigns, so this is not necessary.

If our see and learn from experience we have faced while participating in the bounty campaign, not a few of them do not pay bounty hunters, even though we see the ICO that they hold is running successfully. and I sometimes think that they / the project owner are just looking for profit by utilizing hunters without having to pay the hunters, at the end of the campaign ...

The idea is a very good one. Numerous projects have yet to fulfill their responsibility to bounty hunters,  even after a successful campaign, ICO/IEO, and listing on an exchange. Putting the payment for hunters in escrow will ensure that they get paid for their tasks while also eliminating the possibility of scam allegations and the endless asking of "When payment" by hunters.

Paying escrow funds for bounty hunters will be the best option because most projects don't pay hunters at the end of the campaign. If there's some sort of escrow payment which will ensure hunters gets paid that will be nice.

Do you mean paying by? Tokens or Btc, Eth or top currencies that has a large volume of trades? I think it would be impossible since there should be a staff here that would handle it, accountants or auditors etc. and it might needed to be transparent as well the most alternative is the escrow however even though it is encourage it's still optional and there's no rule that it's mandatory.

The best thing a bounty hunter can do is to study the project, know if they're legitimate team and of course trust your guts anyways if they are legitimate project and they didn't pay the trust for the project will be affected and if they are legitimate then of course they will protect their reputation by paying their workers.

Yep, it will only make the new procedure more complex and complicated to implement, related to the effectiveness of time and energy. Is it not possible to make the terms of use escrow mandatory?

Indeed it is time for the bounty hunter to care more about what he/she doing, not just looking for profit by joining as many bounties as possible without thinking about the quality. And when it ends with the drama, the bounty hunter protests everywhere.

Escrow is not good solution always, there will be more problems due to the nature of crypto markets. The bounty campaign funds should be locked for a year in order to prevent the token price from market fluctuations. The bounty hunting is not even job, why the bounty hunters take it seriously if the project's bounty allocation  is not even escrowed

I think locking is also not a good choice, I have followed a bounty whose tokens have been locked for 1 year but the time is not in the lock and the price is broken and far from their IEO price so it all depends on the developer they can convince investors to buy their tokens or no

Such ideas can only be done by large projects or those that have been running for a long time in the crypto market.
for ICO or IEO currently running bounties, most of them start from zero.
how can they fund the bounty while they don't have enough money to pay.

There are some already doing this but mostly on btc campaign only. Ive seen such campaign handled by some reputable manager on altcoin section that employed escrow service and even eth payment. The forum isnt responsible for bounty payment for hunters, the complained about this issue becoming a high streak demand.

This is the thing. So I think its not possible for all projects. Every altcoin with bounty usually in their ICO/IEO phase so clearly they are also on struggling phase too. Hunters should learn to appreciate what are available.

Hop just gone crypto market games round :'( all right no have any powerful project for work everyone bounty hunter. Basically ICO/IEO doesn't matter how much good point in it so almost we need leave bounty participate.
Here me i participate in many bounty almost 2 year long but i don't receive any money, just borning with time spend :-\

Yes, but the escrow must also be seen in detail, because not everyone is suitable to be placed on the escrow, because the escrow is a joint account to accommodate special funds that have been adjusted to the agreement, so choosing escrow is certainly very difficult and the project must certainly examine it first.

It is a very good observation, because many hunters including me have had one horrible experience or the other in term of failure to receive bounty rewards after many weeks of promotion.  The point is that, even if this is implemented, it may even increase scam projects more. Because some will just go and develop fake coins and be rest assured that it will be promoted since it's just to deposit part of it as a proof.  At the end of the day, everything will be worthless after much stress.  One of the existing best solutions is to do a thorough findings about any project we want to join so that it won't be an exercise in futility.

A great proposal, however, it will never be implemented. This is a decentralized world, which means that everyone is free to do here whatever he wants and how he wants.
What you say is called regulation. Nothing will stop the scam project from paying a certain amount of money to the forum or guarantor in order to place its bounty company.
But in the end, the forum will be accused of supporting scam.

It will be wise and of good benefit to bounty hunters if the forum can look into bounty payments. Mandate the projects to pay in Eth or Btc to escrow before the campaign starts it will minimise scam projects launch of Bounty.

I think the most effective thing is that the bounty manager must make a deal that is profitable for everyone. In order not to harm the bounty hunter, the bounty manager must at least establish good communication with the development team, providing an appropriate and effective strategy for payment. So even if there are changes in rules, distribution delays, everything is based on agreement and with logical reasons. It's good for the bounty manager to also be involved in the distribution process, facilitate escrow for example, and immediately stop the campaign if there is anything suspicious from the dev team. This is all for the sake of maintaining the credibility of the bounty manager so that it does not arbitrarily accept cooperation.

even though they have made a deal but sometimes the team of developers don't want to know about bounty payments and like bounty managers also can't do anything. The point all depends on the policy of the project team

It's a good idea thought, but if it's implemented, you will see developers still finding other means to bycut hunters.. I have seen cases where developers create 2 tokens and distribute, hunters could not trade it and the other they sold to only investors with the aim that they don't want the project to die.. at the end it died... But the point is if there are better means for bounty managers to make sure hunters get paid, then that will be fine.

If such project team does not find it comfortable using escrow, perhaps with whom they do not trust, there is escrow service or those who offer such in this forum, that they can use. the fee charged is not usually much. Most of the times, the responsibility is on bounty managers. If all bounty managers refuse to take up a project, unless escrow is used, I think the project team will see it as a point of duty and also be under compulsion to do that.

It is as bad as what I can't describe I can't begin to count the number of bounties have worked for without getting a dime and sometimes hunters even get threatened by bms and project managers which is very bad, but to those projects who have been faithful in rewarding hunters base on their services may your cold wallet never run dry.

We can't just put blame against BM because they are also relying upon the project developers unless it was escrowed already. MB is just managing the campaign and the rewards will most likely to receive right after the campaign duration is over from the project owners. But unfortunately, many things have changed and might possible that their promises had broke. Sad reality but somehow, many members here are still participating bounty.

This is a free forum and it would never be involved in such things. It was originally created by satoshi to discuss about bitcoins and it's a privilege to us that they are allowing promotion of other crypto and projects through the forum.
Everyone of bounty participants gets frustrated when their hard work results in nothing but we should also realize that it's our decisions that went wrong. There are plenty of good paying projects we didn't joined with.

regarding payment issues for bounty campaign participants, I think it's often explained when at the beginning of the thread, at least if you become a bounty campaign participant, it is often to read information so that you will find out how to pay, if someone has done an escrow it would be better.

very good idea and I strongly agree if the moderator can implement it and help bounty hunters in payment problems that often occur but I also think if no one will care about your ideas and the bounty hunter will still meet the same fate as before

Paying certain amounts to whom? This forum? This forum will never vouch any bounty for your info. But it will be good if the project escrow the rewards with a reputed escrow from the forum. Julerz usually try to do this and some other reputed cm also do this but it depends on hunter. If no one participates, owner will be forced to escrow the payment.

Bounty payment matters but if project is not good or fake or scam the tokens you earn is nothing, as payment matters so is the quality of the project must be, start from bounty managers like julerz12 and bubbalex and still do some research on the projects

Fraudulent projects are the main points that must be resolved so that this forum is clean and no longer accepts crap projects. but for most prize hunters, of course the focus is on the issue of token payments, many projects do not pay participants when their projects have been a big success in the market, yes, even though this is a risk of being a prize hunter but at least they should appreciate our efforts when promoting their projects .

Many bounty hunters are losing interest in bounty programs that do not specify its timeline and payment time frame. Such bounty programs normally leave most bounty participants hanging right after the bounty program and due to general rules participants have limited opportunities to ask questions about payment. It is always good to join bounty programs that specify its payment timeline.

This really a good idea but i understand it bounty weekly paid is the best idea then their never take scam and we can understand team activity with their developing progress. Really many projects still here like their successful token after mager want paid bounty amount and day by day increase date.

Very good idea, if all bounties run the rules like that, Bounty Hunter will not wait long to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
My very memorable experience was when I joined the yobit campaign, after we post, they immediately pay the bounty hunter so quickly, and they pay for our work in the form of BTC. if a rule like this is applied in a forum, I think the bounty hunter will not be trapped again in a bounty scam.

It would be great if it was done, but it is difficult to do if the distribution of prizes is in the form of stake. in addition, I feel that the purpose of holding an ICO / IEO is to raise funds so that they can run the project. so, without the completion of the sale, they will not be able to build their project, and there will be no tokens. so escrow cannot be done.

Yobit was a scam exchange, but to be honest, their signature campaign is the best I've seen. Participants can receive and withdraw BTC anytime they want and the budget for this signature campaign is also great

Sounds like a good idea. Will put a stop on scam project who wish to run bounty just to run away with money. When they have something at stake, here money for instance in escrow. Less scam projects would go ahead with bounty.

I just hope the projects I join in bounty will succeed because it's the fastest way for me to receive tokens from them and I can sell them at exchanges. If I participate in escrow campaigns, I can receive valuable tokens and I cannot sell them at any exchange in this market.

That is why all respected managers supervising companies with payment at BTC work only through escrow, with very few exceptions, such as best changer.
But even if the developers of new projects will allocate part of their tokens as a guarantee, it still does not give the employee any guarantees, because tokens can become garbage after entering the market.

You have got a very good suggestions, but the truth remains that it is rare for bounty posted in the bounty sections to use escrow.
Even in the service section (where there are several bitcoin paying bounties; lets say just half uses escrows).

The most recent altcoin bounty to use escrow is the GeomaDao Bounty, and am sure we are all looking forward to a better altcoin bounty this year 2020

I used to join bounty campaigns before where an escrow fund was set up to ensure the legitimacy of the campaign. I remember that there were many participants who joined those projects as they have a sense of trust that their hard work and effort in doing bounty tasks would be rewarded. But right now it is rare to see such a campaign. Having an escrow will really minimize scam projects and invite bounty participants again.

but when the escrow is in the token payment also that will be obtained by the bounty participant, the same will not change the risk that will be obtained by the bounty hunter. because the value and the future of tokens that will be received also no one knows. even after being registered in the token exchange from bounty, not many of them have good value.

The rules that are applied in a yobit campaign are very simple, each participant can enjoy the results of their work in a matter of hours, And they always pay for every participant who has posted without missing anything. Rules like this should be adopted by other campaigns, so that bounty hunters are more enthusiastic in doing their work. With rules like that, we never find case of allocation cuts after the project was successful, or the bounty team runs without a trace so that the bounty hunter doesn't get paid at all.

This forum gave you the freedom to choose anything you want so its your job to find the real bounties and its already mentioned that scams are not moderated here so you have to take care of your money and DT system will help you for that.If someone involved in scam then create flag as well so that user will be given warning when others posts on their threads.

Such a great idea which will be very beneficial to bounty hunters many atimes bounty Hunter are not been paid for their jobs .The only problem is that many bounties will not agree with the it but it is a very nice idea in which people will be paid their righteous  dues for their works.

To be honestly bounty payment before or after it doesn't matter because real project will paid you and fake project will never paid you. Explain like if one project will paid you but no have volume with price then this token never give you happynes. So you need always try to search good real project like more partnership with biggest exchange roadmap.

This can only be a win win case if the project raised enough funds and lists on a good market, then the fund escrowed is valuable.
Using an escrow can be forced as a rule but setting a compulsory allocation doesn't seem right because it'll appear as if you are trying to regulate what they have. It's hard to get good bounties these days and I'll say making escrow compulsory is a good step.

I kinda like the idea but I don't think it going to work. Who will take the deposits? what factor to chose them?...
Make more hassle for bounty campaign and bounty hunter when involved too many parties in it, drama ensures.

No, it really matters because before when they pay the value of the token or token is good, so bounty hunters will be happy.
The only difference now is that they can't sell the bounty reward at a good price as it will dump when traded in exchanges.

The strategy that we should use at the moment is to look for good project, once the bounty reward will be receive, we have to hold it.
Lastly, be PATIENT as time will come we will be able to enjoy that reward we hold.

Buddy... Many things are going to work to safeguard the labour of bounty hunters. It is bizarre to see people's labour going in vein without compensation.
About who is going to take the deposits ? Answer is mod or administrators or trusted hero and legendary members.

About making hussling for bounty campaign... You can't know the particular one that won't scam. For example there are some many bounties on now, I will put out 3 links for you or someone else to tell about their legitimacy to distribute to hunters and be listed too. Here they are :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231657.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230935.msg53977130#msg53977130

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228746

So how many among the three are sincere to distribute and listed?

As long as project is genuine whether it pays before or after the campaign is fine, or even decided to pay some months later, it could be an advantage to the hunters because by then the project must of have gain some values,
Only that sometimes some project team would want to cheat bounty hunters so is the need to have the payment available up front, but many team will not agree to this.

This suggestion was made many times before and every time, the proposal was rejected. Some of the users argue that such conditions may result in good projects not getting realized. I disagree with them, but then I don't have any power regarding it. I feel bad for all the bounty hunters, who get dejected and disappointed, despite all that hard work, time and effort they put in. But that it how the things work.

actually only requires escrow, no need to pay a sum of funds, it's just that escrow isn't as easy as imagined because I'm sure many bounties won't do this because it's a bit troublesome and it seems like our way to avoid scams is to do our own research and choose a person bounty manager who can be trusted and not carelessly in taking a project that wants to run a bounty with their services.

Using Escrow is great but there is no need to pay service fees. All the hunter needs is an experienced and trusted third-party manager with a bounty fund deposited with them will make the participants calm and confident that their work will produce. In addition, using third-party management services will broaden the reach of marketing and increase investor appeal which can even come from bounty participants.

I have often read complaints and opinions from several members here but until now this method has been ignored, maybe the moderator did not approve of it but for escrow services I saw several projects doing it

The forum will not do it for you and theymos will not moderate bounties or demand to be paid for announcements or campaigns that people want to run on the forum.

This should be your responsibility as a bounty hunter to do research and tell others about scams. The community should go hard on developers who don't pay their employees and that's who you are as a bounty hunter. You're doing a job for them and should be paid for it.

agree with this one, that is a business relation, no matter how low the level of that interaction is, they are advertising job, you do that job for them, and that should be paid for

i had some projects that actually did something else - accepted your work - i did an article, and then at some point, sometimes months after campaign ended, they announced new form that should be filled-in for reward, with twitter or telegram announcement only, and than paid only hunters that fulfilled that new form, which is, if not scam, that not in relation with business logic, most of these projects were bound to fail, because project leaders are not following business logic

You are correct! Julerz12 BM didn’t conducted any bounty campaign without escrow, i saw last a few campaigns. Now ongoing geoma dao it is also escrow. I will continuously follow such protected projects. Bounty rewards will distribute by BM after 3 weeks so that it’s big opportunity to receive sure payment. Fast payment is unexpected at this time, i see a lot of delay(2 months-6 months) in many bounties.                       

Hmm your idea is pretty good. Because hunter works hard for every project they perticipate but if they not pay it's really heart.so if this possible I will defenetely suggest everyone to think about this because day by day bounty earning getting much more defficult & if hunter get victim of any scam it's nothing but a shame!! Shame for that project who Rufused payment.

Bitcointalk forums are containers or means. so the highest decision is in the hands of each hunter, whether they will join the project or not. and the forum will also not be responsible if the project that we follow will smell like a scam. but not all of the projects ended in scams right ??
 

Even if we resort to this method, there is a problem that is difficult to solve.
Projects, for the most part, pay rewards with their own tokens, which subsequently may cost nothing.
Do we need such an escrow? I don’t think so.
This would be appropriate if the projects paid in a more solid currency that entered the market.

The concern of the majority of bounty hunters is the lack of liquidity on the listed exchanges which have no volume after a week. There is no reason to blame the bounty managers or escrow services if there is no demand by the crypto investors. Solid projects know what awaits them in the future and they prepare themselves for these days.

This is one of the many reasons some bounty hunters only settle for automated bounty sites but it didn't pacify the issue of payment still. I really  do hope that a lasting solution to this comes forth soonest.

Bounties kill a project they add no value

I’ve seen far too many projects where bounty hunters dump tokens the second they receive the token

These days bounty hunters do not get the message out to the wider community and their work do not equal result in token sales

Promote a project because you believe it in - don’t do it for a job

Bounties are one of the reasons why crypto ain’t taken seriously - it’s still a money grab not about adoption

What you mean container? It is the area where these bounties are launched. Yes as far as I know it is not the forum responsibility to know all the scam bounty and even do something about it. This forum is created for discussion, and even generous to have a section for this bounty types. Its up to every participants to join which campaign they think they can earn money with. But the fact that most joiners havent paid on many campaign is also alarming.

I have already suggested this type of options as in 2019 there were many successful projects but they refuse to pay the bounties the first option is If BTT can help us and then it is excellent. The 2nd option is one Hero member make o Telegram channel and add almost all bounty hunters and whenever any successful project doesn't pay then we all take legal steps against that project through social media.

Seems so simple but when the actual legal steps are to be taken against the project, it would take so long. And if no one will follow thru, it will just fall to deaf ears. But such action will prevent from other potential investors in investing on that project because of the bad reputation. But I don't think someone will diligently do that job and follow up each and every single one of them because they are really a lot. So now, the effort should be on the bounty hunter himself. He should do his own homework before joining any of them.

Your suggestion or opinion was certainly good, but the problem is, most of the the bounty owner who conduct a program to promote their campaign are greed and doesn't care about the feelings of the bounty hunters here in the forum, they are deaf and mute about this issue actually. They are just only after for the profit and good only for the beginning and make lot of promises just to get what they want to get.

Hahah legal steps - legal steps should be taken against the bounty hunters trying to scam projects too

Escrow is a good idea, but the project are not going to do it as there are few Bounty campaigns today, so the hunters have no options than participate in all good campaigns no matter they have escrow or no.

If the forum determines that more people will be lazy to do research on new projects, why? because they will be calm because they will definitely get payment from the bounty

When we want to join campaign, the decision is on our decision whether we want to join or not.
If we think the campaign won't paying the participants, then we should not join.
Escrow is better than no escrow, but usually the campaigns that escrowed the fund usually pay smaller reward than campaign with no escrow.

Having an assurance on getting the rewards is good but its not the only factor that can make you say its worth participating in the project. Yes you get your coins/tokens but is it listed in good exchanges and has a real value? That would be an important question so bounty hunters can say its all worth their time and effort.

it is very rare to find bounties that use escrow services, and for projects like that, then most likely the payment is to use ethereum, or bitcoin. Well, the only good thing is paying the bounty hunter with coins that are already on the market, or using USDT. it's just that new projects require users who are trying to use their tokens, so I think it's very rare to find such a project.

I very much agree with your idea and good arrangement but it is very difficult to do because it has become a strong root for a project and for prize hunters. if that is done maybe many gift workers will not cry with the project they support. but that is a risk that bounty hunters have to take and have to fight for

I believe that will be a good idea, as majority of the projectd use Bitcointalk to run their campaigns but if that is done, I doubt if most projects will want to use Bitcointalk again. So you see its a two edged sword. We just have to do our best and hope the team pays hunters for job welldone

This is apt! No one truly can say of a certainty what bounty would pay at the end. Bounty hunting is a game of chance and high risk. Beyond this, I think managers of bounties here are now putting measures in place to ensure projects don't deny hunters their reward by putting escrow in place. Though a few are still footdragging on it because they don't want to appear harsh to contracts coming their way and risk losing it. I think it will advance this stage with time. But BMs need to sit up and be honest to hunters.

LOL... this has been posted here dozens of times before, without any response from the ICO promoters and bounty campaign managers. They can afford to ignore such demands, because they know that even if they do that, they will get large number of bounty hinters joining the campaigns. I have said this many times... the problem is that we don't have unity. We need to boycott all the bounty campaigns, until the terms and conditions get better.

Sometimes I see a few projects like your description, but their budget is very low and not worthy of our work. And for new projects, I think they should save that money to develop their projects. They don't need to waste money promoting a project while their project is just getting started and doesn't have any products yet.

Very good suggestion. Its very sorrowful when payment is refused after a successful campaig. Admin may consider yhe matter.   

That's a great idea, but many projects are not backed by big companies, so they lack money at the beginning and that's the problem, I think that's the main dilemma people faced as a bounty hunter. Using escrow is not a solution, if they using the token or coin they develop, not fiat money or bitcoin since the token/coin itself is not valuable at the beginning of the project started

How to promote a project, this is creative idea. This forum or bounty manager can't force with it how to do. This process only depends on project types and devs satisfaction. Payment security! Please visit "Geoma DAO" project and bounty payment methods. This problem can be solve by bounty manager ( by escrow) as did julerz12 for bounty hunters, forum is not for do it.

How a hero user can take legal steps aganist unpaid bounty projects? If any project deceived in bounty payment, nothing possible to take action through social platforms. Scam accusation can help to discuss or negotiate which project owner otherwise i see no another effective way can deal in these issue. I prefer in first option.                      

Are bounty campaigns still relevant? Earlier, I read that now making money on this is almost impossible.

It's a good idea to protect payments for bounty hunters, but unfortunately it won't protect against scam projects. In the future, this is probably how bounty will work.

There will be no way to combat scam projects in this market. The scam projects are becoming more dangerous than before, we never know when they will become scams. It is best to research and select projects based on your own experience

It is a good idea and suggestion as well but the chances of that happening will still be the problem, remember it is the project team that will decide if they will go with escrow or not. Also, there is every possiblity that even though the project team deposit the bounty payments with the bounty manager as the case maybe, the token might still end up worthless at the end.
This issue of bounty payments, I see it as a matter of reputation, if a project team is genuine and have integrity, bounty payments shouldn't be a problem, once the time reach, they just pay. I hope a lasting solution can be choosen, maybe starting with the escrow holding the payment will be a good start, hopefully the token will end up good.

Bounty payment really matters alot to bounty hunter because after long weeks of work and waiting every bounty hunter want to be paid for there work.Some campaigns never paid hunter even after a successful bounty campaign which helps attract many investors to their project.Hunters uaually become frusterated when not pay for their work.I think hunters deceive to be paid for thier work and payment really matters.

I have to agree with this. Let the Bounty Manager handle the job of checking, other bounty stuff then a certain person or group of trusted person from the Bitcointalk Admins should handle the Allocated rewards for bounty hunter so that bounty hunters are rest assured that they will get what they work for.

but it will be ignored by the moderator, there have been many posts like this before. Anyone is free to run a bounty here at no cost, now back to themselves in conducting research

it would be very nice if like that. several projects have already implemented it. if this is applied thoroughly, then fraud can be suppressed. so far, not many bounty projects use escrow. sometimes they use escrow only when paying using bitcoin or ethereum

We can look at Geoma DAO project where the Bounty manager already holds number of tokens for Bounty participants, And I like this model, Bounty Hunter will still get their tokens after Bounty ends. Hopefully in the future there will be more projects that will directly provide their escrow tokens to the bounty manager.

What currency do you propose the the forum admins ask from bounty projects? I think bounty managers should have a forum here whereby they make a uniform rule concerning bounty rewards. If there's no uniform agreement binding rewards, some managers will never escrow payments. If there's a laid down rule guiding bounty on the forum then this can be possible but if its a freelance work, everyone will work depending on their own terms and condition.

I hear some project developer call it  "free coins"   when bounty hunters are done promoting thier projects. These are people who bought phones or laptop as the case may be and bought data with their money, spent their time to promote your projects with terms of payments. But when it's time to pay, team in conjunction with bm will start seeing the reward as free coins. Forgetting they hire those guys and needed to they  them according to what you agreed for bounty hunters.

This is a good suggestion! Maybe we should give importance all bounty hunters because they are really helped campaign to promote their projects. Not only because bounty pool have a small percentage of total allocation, the bounty hunters are useless. I think this is a good idea to require incoming new projects to give an advance fund before entering here in this forum to secure bounty hunters privilege to earn their rewards for hardworking if Incase the project or campaign are scam.

This is main point most of bounties going here without any escrow or any security and bounty managers just keeping their own salary some managers try to have relative coins or tokens but these are also not good enough as most of time they fall like crap so better just do own search and then try to participate in any bounty.

maybe in the future there will be many who choose the gift of using escrow, it all depends on the bounty manager, if I'm not mistaken, there are also a number of projects managed by the bounty manager Geoma DAO and I have participated in 1 bonty from that manager, namely token CUR

There are many kinds of bounty are crypto market. A bounty can be a reward by a local government to help track criminals. Someone who makes a living by locating wanted persons is called a bounty hunter in crypto market. the crypto bounties are jobs  tasks, or projects that you have to complete in order to get paid  in bounty market. They are created to promote & advertise an ICO or blockchain project. If you complete the job you are rewarded in the form of a token bounty. they are some function facebook twitter reddit linkedin signature payment system. 

I agree with your idea that currently the payment problem has not found the best solution. the label "Scammer" will not change the feelings of bounty hunters who have been lied to by them. because we have all been working on their projects for 3 - 4 months. so it really needs a concrete solution by the founder of this forum so that no party is harmed.

There are some projects that are currently experiencing delay due to some challenges being faced on the development of their projects. A project that does not have a product, cannot give value to it's token. So, there is no point if bounty hunters are paid tokens withoutvalue and not listed on exchange. That will be the worst part of it. The main solution here is to be careful of the bounty to join.

Its a matter of time I believed many of this rules will be implemented be as it may I can now see many bounty hunters promoting a project managed by a reputable manager whose assurance of payment after the exercise is not in doubt, taking a cursory look at the bounty managers there are some who had managed many projects and assured that hunter are paid I also agreed with the idea of token eschewed and held by the manager this is another means of identifying credible projects a hunter is advised to look for maybe five to eight of those projects and worked on them.

julerz also hold bounty reward ,so they will guarantee about payment and hunter no need to worry about it. and now there are some  bounty hunter hold token for bounty ,but its better to hold on escrow so it will be safer if bounty manager suddenly run with bounty token. many bounty manager as escrow too,

actually this method is the most recommended, it's just that as long as there are no regulations that press, I think the developer is still entitled to do it without escrow. Well, with Escrow, we all work pretty well and without having to think about when payment will arrive. however, the system has now been implemented, but not in all projects.

Crypto forum is a part of the best place to promote the crypto. We have seen a bunch of coins have been getting pumped to the moon after it was creating a massive promotion.
The hunters have no power when it comes to the decision that has already taken by the team.

I agree with you.There are a few payments for hunters.I think as he is.There should be a separate allocation for this.Those who work so hard to make a project a success on a small payment.It is not right to hide their payment.

It would be great if only those companies were allowed on the forms, that contribute the bounty reward. What I mean. Bitcointalk accepts the amount from the developers into its buffer and reserves it for the members. This way Bunty hunters are safe and at the end of the company they receive 100% of their rewards.

There is no need for the projects to pay a certain amount of funds first before bounty starts, you talking about collateral plan? Well not bad and I'm with you since many projects team can't be trusted, the best solution is escrow, how did bounty detective confused team to use escrow? That's unknown

Have seen many bounty hunters crying here all day but there is no solutions about it. It's not the purpose of the forum to handle complaints of ill payments but the campaign manager and the project teams. There are simple tips to perform and participate in successful campaigns, participate in 1-2 campaigns in a months after doing a clear and thorough research on it. Doing as many campaign gives you headache and at ends lays you nothing. That's just the tip.

Our bounty managers should be the ones to come together and consider escrow to any new projects that seems for bounty hunters skills, too many projects are fucking bounty hunters up, look what bitwings is doing to bounty hunters presently, after a while year of waiting they are now randomly picking them

Of course, we should or I mean these developers should give importance they are the life of their project they move the project and present it, to investors, they themselves are investors developers should understand this, without bounty hunters majority of the projects will just fail for lack of awareness.

Bounty manager together with the administration of the forum could to do it, but I doubt that they care.

now some managers already use escrow services and will certainly reduce the sense of bounty hunter fears for payers. maybe in the future all bounty managers will do the same

Is the coin worth anything presently? I gave up on the project when they couldn't deliver what they promised.

The fate of bounty has yet to be confirmed clearly many fraudsters and projects don't pay the bounty hunter hard work, I personally have experienced this but now it's a little different there are some bounty managers using the Escrow system and avoiding scam

Of course we should make a movement if a project don't want to give tokens of the bounty hunter. We should made a article about their scamming behaviour. Because there is fake team and they can scam at anytime.

This Fenomena that most often occurs and all hope to have a solution at least there is a reward with the principle of propriety there in terms of promoting a platform like you say above.

Is the project worth anything that hunters are busy campaigning for it? The answer is No,   but bounty hunters are doing most of this alts campaign in the hope it will become valuable some day, so the idea that this project are ask to escrow the bounty pool is not a bad idea, it is better than having to deal with their constant excuses to not pay hunters at the end of the campaign.

I wish we can do more damages to projects that take advantage of bounty hunters without paying their for their services, some team are inhuman and heartless, before the bounty campaign ends they will pretend as if bounty hunters matters but after bounty ends they will change.

It is a good one but I think  when this kind of bounty payment is settle then they would only go with the ones who are already trusted and known to have a good reputation on the forum.
I wonder why this kind of bounty isn't showing up yet and I hope that they would also limit their participants so the bounty rewards wouldn't be so small.

Reason @Hhampuz outstands every other BM currently in the forum he escrows most of the bounty campaigns he manages. Escrow is escrow for a reason, the teams wouldn't be playing with the emotions and feelings of over a thousand hunters feigning payment and making promises when the required works have been done successfully already.

You could reduce the chance of being tricked to do all the bounty work for free cause the project team refuses to make a payment. First, don't join bounty management by the project team since they can do anything they want with your payment. Second, don't focus only on high bounty rewards and overlook the first or project's reputation.

That is really a good idea to have a dual option but i think the project team will not agree with it except if it become rules to be follow on this forum for the sake of the hunters. If this will happen the hunters will gain even a little if ever the tokens become no value at the end of the campaign or if it turns scam project.

No. They don't.

This issue was raised several times before, during the last 2-3 years. So I don't think that there is any point in beating the dead horse again. So ultimately, it is up to the bounty hunters. They need to decide whether they want to join such campaigns or not. In my case, I decided to quit the bounties almost two years ago. Unless the conditions are changed, I am not going to rejoin.

I have seen a lot of bounty use escrow, but it is not really successful either. Many projects are still dead and not listed on exchanges, and bounty hunters only receive useless tokens

Right now many bounty managers have started using escrow services and provide a guarantee regarding the payment distribution. As well some of the Mangers have come with the rule of a limited number of participants for the greater reward in bounty campaigns. So basically things are changing right now.  

Good idea, friend, but I think the bounty team does not agree because they need their tokens until they reach the market and succeed first. to pay at the beginning, maybe the team will think a thousand times because they definitely think at the end they don't have the certainty that their token will succeed or not. on the contrary, the condition actually benefits the participants because there is already a certainty at the beginning that they as participants have already been paid. If it's my idea, pay half of it first, or register the token first on the exchange. so that participants will be calmer with the existence of some of these certainty.

if the distribution is done by the project itself, the bounty manager cannot do anything, but if the bounty manager holds coins or tokens from the project, they will do their best, like Bounty Detective, because KingCasino is a scam, they can still distribute the KCT to the bounty hunter

Now many bounty managers have some guarantee that the tokens are held and the distribution will not be too late if the bounty manager does that well. I think detective is the best guarantee.
Percussion KCT is distributed if the project is scam meaning it will not be useful in the token.

Well, as we all believe, we are still in the wild west in cryptocurrency. We are not outlawed by mainstream finance, but nevertheless not really regulated which is the main reason why people love to invest in cryptocurrencies. Those who can get away with it will do everything to get away with other peoples investment. That also includes some mismanagement in the administration of bounty projects and bounty campaigns. We can be paid big or not at all. They can say the project is not successful even if they got so much money. They can be honest or they can scam everybody. If you want bounties in decentralized crypto to be regulated with the help of the forum owner then I would wish you the best of luck.

Most of them are unable to. That's because they don't have such in prior or are insufficient to handle the whole marketing expense alone. Also there are other things for which they also need funds to in other operations which they give more priority over marketing expense. Reason being they can't settle payments with tokens in such operations. It has to be done in stable currency or some other form of payment which has a value at that point.

Promoting new projects is risky at times, you won't know which team will take bounty hunters serious and pay them sincerely, I'm glad oikos project team aren't like some deceiving team in crypto space, have it on your mind as a bounty hunter that not all projects you promote will fulfill their promises to bounty hunters

Thats right and that will be an obstacle faced by most altcoin project developer. The bounty program launched aims to gain a wider marketing reach among potential investor in the forum. I think the developer will have difficulty paying the cost of the campaign if they have to prepare initial capital for all participant unless their token or coin have been traded on the exchange and they will pay it every week or month with token or coin with or without escrow.

I think OP advice lead to the frustrating form of most bounty hunter who are already very vulnerable to promoting bounty without getting paid. The lack of funding in the last few year on the altcoin project has caused many project to fail and must make participant unpaid. Of course it really make the campaign participant disappointed.

I don't think it's too risky because if you run according to the tasks given then you don't need to be afraid and don't need to worry because the bounty manager only sees participants who follow the rules given when they first participated in the campaign.

It really baffles me when bounty hunters won't get paid even after the success of the project,you see hunters pleading again after doing their jobs already,reason most hunters like bounty detective and Julerz ,their bounties are always escrowed and that even boost the morale of the hunters to work effectively because of certainty of their rewards.

I am very much sure that all members here in the forum will agree to your opinion about this issue now for every campaign arise here in cryptocurrency business. This will be in favor to all bounty hunters who support most of the time here in the bounties section thread anyway.
I hope this will happen to all bounty hunters here at the present time now.

You should know for what reward you working, without having atleast approximately rewards, you are not enough motivated. I see people that are doing bounty campaigns because they are used to...  ::) But I believe if they give an exact reward peoole will work harder and you get better results.

A lot of bounty hutters doesn't care about their well-being and allow new project to abuse their effort like that. If only we have sort of bounty hutters labor union or something like that to make sure any project with that kind of treating us will receive backblast and marked.

I had a lot of experience on where campaigns doesn't pay even if their Ico or ieo is successful. So to make atleast the hunters effort pays off, admins should stand as an escrow so there will be a sure payment from the project team.

Yeah it's so true! As a bounty hunter, I usually move on after being scammed without doing anything. The best I can do is to alert others people about the bounty teams and bounty managers who runs the scam project. However, we can't do too much thing about this problem. The best thing we can do to avoid being scammed is that doing good research about the campaigns we're about to join!

I don't think so, because bounty participants who are experienced and always value their own time, so they will always consider unclear campaign projects and campaign rules that are less logical to run, so don't equate all bounty participants in this regard.

Who wants to work for nothing? No one hopes for such, new projects are too deceiving, it's either you get cheated or you aren't paid any penny, I find my safe haven in bounty managers that have past reputable histories, at least disappointments will be reduced

I also like the idea how the bounty campaign managers are always thinking about the participants while launching a bounty campaign. Many a times it has happened in the past when the participants weren't paid for the job that they did and also the team refused to pay the participants or didn't commented on this matter. Now bounty detective taking this initiative is really a good thing to escrow the funds at the start of the campaign which ensures the bounty participants are paid at the end of the campaign.

Although the project is under no obligation to pay the bounty hunters after they go live it is a matter of trust and keeping their word . So yeah it's better to put them into escrow accounts and make sure we get paid.

That's will be the main usefulness of escrow to create a good ecosytem for the hunters and developers. Some projects have already used the escrow for their campaign and the hunters can also get a very good result as their payment too.

Yes bountydetective do guarantee of bounty token even you'll need forget kingcasino token because their IEO failed and this project never continue. If you got kct token it's just show in mew without values. Anyway every hunter already forget kct bounty so gonna next best.

I'm craving to see and experience those safe system. As a bounty hunter, I have to accept a lot of risks when doing bounty campaigns. There's no guarantee payment for our works. Even though we have experienced a lot and learn a lot of lessons the hard way, scammers always have new tricks that we can't be aware of and easily get scammed! A safe environment will be the best solution for the bounty field.

We can't always escape from scam projects using research or bad team who won't want to pay bounty hunters, the only way one can escape this is through reputable bounty managers in this forum and they won't have bounty projects every time, some times you will have to take risks with bounties that aren't from reputable bounty managers

Escrow process can stop scammers like Vidy token and Bitwing scammed to bounty hunters go. Although Bitwings is a scam project, Vidy is very promising. Escrow can protect our bounty  manager reputation, bubbalex and bounty detective are also the same.

 Exactly, but projects managers need to understand that they need to have some capital to start a project. If they don't have enough funds to start a project, they shouldn't start or organize bounty campaigns. People can't waste their time promoting projects and do not get paid for their effort. Personally, I think moderators on this forum can  put something in place to avoid project managers from making a fool out of Bounty hunters.

So far this year bubbalex and bounty detective are the best two bounty managers that are more reliable, getting paid from any project from this two bounty managers is guaranteed, stay away from projects that are managed by new team or self moderated bounty threads

We should not impose on this forum what we want or what will serve us, the moderators and the management has so many things to attend to besides getting involve on these new projects, why not do your won research it's always been joined at your own risk, do not create a certain privileges here for bounty hunters.

but at least they or dev fulfill the promise to the hunter too, we know investors are in top priority but they cannot abandon the hunter for that reason. every project will look good if they think about the slightest contribution that others have made to it.

I think everyone here has a freedom of speech and discussing some things that can help for a better bounty management is not prohibited. Everyone can open and can give an opinion for the good of all.

In 2020 they ran about 15 campaigns. About 5 of then distributed rewards to hunters, and among this 5, only 3 campaigns got listed. Why the hell they are reliable? Why do you think they guarantee that hunters will get paid? Because they write in topic “we guarantee payment”? I can write in my profile that I’m Satoshi, but that doesnt mean truth.

When KingCasino scammed, they said that it is bounty hunters problem that they wasted time on it - even though they guaranteed the hunters will get paid.

If you dont believe my words - visit their profile, go to topics they create and check one by one. Spreadsheets are all public. Check “how they guarantee hunters getting rewarded”, visit randomly eth address in the spreadsheet and search for bounty tokens. Also visit projects pages, check where they are listed, check if they even continue working on project.

Are you saying that bounty detective is lying that they are using escrow strategy to settle bounty hunters? Wow this is something I will like see how it goes, to me bounty detective is fair but bubbalex is just more better

What I am saying, that Bounty Detective are not responsible for guaranteeing funds. They do not escrow anything.
I dont understand why people count them good. Just for running lots of campaigns? But this is not a sigh of being good. They are just popular. But the amount of successful campaigns under their managements is low. The amount of campaigns, who got listed is even lower.

Compared to bubbalex, whos campaigns are listed and distributed for 99%, they are nothing. 

Because payments are late or even participants are not paid. It is a common thing for us, because that is very difficult to find projects that do bounty campaigns, the payment is certain. That's why I prefer to look for bounty campaigns whose allocation uses Escrow or also see well-known bounty managers. So there is hope for us to get payment.

Escrow and Bounty managers play a vital role for me before choosing a project, I participated some project who lacks Bounty Manager most of them end up of non payment. But still some project where I joined with Bounty managers turned as scam or nonpayment. I guess it really depends on the market force and how much they collect from ICO or IEO, they cant pay if they dont have the fund to pay.

This forum can't be a 3rd party place to verify if a bounty project has paid a certain amount of funds or escrow. No mod or staff want to take up the responsibility for that kind of job. There is the bounty manager but there are the good ones and the bad ones too. If the bad manager cahoots with the scam project and tells you he did receive the fund but he didn't, what will you do? That why don't join any bounty project without any check up the team, the bounty manager, the funds,...

The problem is that no one will do the things you stated in the above mate. Of course each project owner of the campaign their priority
is to collect fund before they give the rewards to each participants who will gonna help them to promote their project here in this field industry. So, this is a matter of trust and believed for the bounty hunters that's why there is risk always for every bounty hunters.

I mean, escrow is as perfect solution to secure bounty payments as it gets, but on the other hand, if a project is early in its development and did not run its token sale yet, what can stop them to simply change the contract of the token after the bounty to avoid paying bounty participants. It would definitely damage their reputation, but if their intention from the beginning is to scam bounty hunters, they are screwed, escrow or not.

Either campaign Manager or escrow are major things for which one might be looking at because this would sort of ensure them that the payment would be done. Then it is the luck and research that how the coins get listed or what is the future value and how long it can go and sustain it. Though not all projects are worth investing or promoting it. So, needs to be careful about it.

Bounty Hunter likes to gamble if you choose the current project. indeed not many pay even with IEO many who scam and do not pay campaign participants. We have seen it a lot, not many IEO projects are successful with sales.

Well, many can dream all they want about the ramblings of the OP. But let's get this straight. If you look at the nature of the bounties, these are like crowdfunding projects, many and I mean so many of them starts from scratch without any money when they first announced the bounty.  So my question now is, how will they be able to do escrow, and where will they get the money before the bounty if there is no money to begin with? Also, entering a bounty campaign is like the lotto, you don't know if the project will become successful or not, you can never tell and the developers won't too. If it becomes successful then you will become a happy camper, if not then good luck the next try. I got it where they are coming from when they discuss matters such as these, but it is not effective for nearly all of the bounties that happened and will happen.

I think the issue of compelling projects to make a deposit for the smooth running of bounty program Inorder to avoid the issue of disappointment on the part of the hunters can be emphasised by the bounty manager. I know some bounty manager that guarantees the payment for bounty hunters.

I don't think there are bounty campaigns that can be like that anymore because I see that there are not too many bounty campaigns now that can provide a lot of results because there are already few projects that are developing so in my opinion it's better to try to look for work besides becoming a bounty hunter.

The use of Escrow is a great option to prevent the issue of unpaid reward. Labelling the project as scam for not paying bounty hunters may not have a significant adverse effect on the project and doesn't add anything to the bounty hunters who are only interested in getting paid.

Seems to be a good idea for the bounty hunters to avoid scams here in the forum by the bounty projects.

But I think a lot of projects is not gonna agree with this, but maybe if they have a good capital they could somehow pay some amount for insurance of the bounty, so that bounty hunters would still get a certain amount of money even if the project is not successful of even if the project fails.

There are a lot of suggestions about bounty projects scam but I guess it is not moderated so forum do not really do actions about it.

If the developers can provide the allocated amount of rewards in the hands of escrow or with bounty manager itself,
it's serves as an assurance to the campaign participants that they'll be
able to receive the promise rewards.


Some managers are wise enough not to let their names being sacrifice so they'll make sure that the tokens
are in safe hands before accepting the
project.

I think we're nearly there, similar to your idea about mandatory for bounty project to use a middle man as bounty manager or escrow (Detective group, trusted name in bounty managers). People view at new bounty project that doesn't use the above is very cautious.

payment of bounty rewards to bounty hunters is always a problem . After they are done shilling projects and developers make profits they turn around to regard bounty hunters as beggars who are looking for free token . at this point they forget that those bounty hunters bought data , charge their phones and use their time to promote their projects.

Like you said , i like what some bounty managers are beginning to do now , by making sure they collect bounty rewards form team before inviting hunters to join and promote the project.

Nice one mate, I love the suggestion,the torture on bounty hunters is becoming so frustrating,after promoting, no payment, hunters will keep asking when payment, reason why the bounty project should be escrowed,atleast bounty detective does that now. Coins should be escrowed with native token or stable coin.

The best is hiring the tokens to the bounty manager so as to avoid not paying when the bounty finally turns out food as many projects prefers postponing bounty and ends up paying when price is nothing to hunters or when they are about shutting down and some would keep procastinating forever. Best is for bounty managers to always collect coins and distribute as promise.

I don't think it's the fault of the bounty manager because sometimes there are projects that have given tokens or bitcoins specifically allocated to bounty campaign participants, and only those who have escrowed with the bounty manager will make payments on time, otherwise the bounty manager will provide a copy of the spreadsheet to the team from the project to immediately process the payment.

the idea is very good, but in my opinion it is very difficult to implement, especially for the project owner. They certainly do not know whether the project will be successful or not by paying for the bounty. It would be better if the payment was made using stable coins such as BTC or ETH. But I see that lately there are a lot of bounties that are not paid even though the project is successful, even though it will definitely be paid late. even worse if the project is scam..

Escrow will work better for this situation or rather find a capable bounty manager who always make payment to his fellow bounty hunters like bubbalex, people like bubbalex don't need escrow because they always make sure that bounty hunters get paid.

This step is best, if the token is in the hands of the manager I think there is no delay in payment. because the cheating trick done by the bounty team is to make payments when the token price is destroyed, it is very disappointing for the workers who work hard to promote the project all the time, so I think this might be a realistic and fair step

Agree, Bubbalex does not need escrow. But he has rigorous processes for selecting projects. So we always see the best projects coming from him, and the bounty hunter gets a lot of money participating in those campaigns.

asking for tokens first using the escrow service is not the task of the forum admin but it is the responsibility of the bounty manager, the forum only provides a place for promotion and will not interfere with bounty hunter payment problems

Only if the Bounty Manger is trustworthy and won't do anything bad to escape with all the rewards allocated for the bounty campaign. But nevertheless it's a good idea having such kind of thing that would guaranteed bounty hunters rewards.

I think the bounty manager is only doing his job but usually the bounty manager has received half a 50% payment or maybe 25% of the agreement to do his job as the bounty manager of the project and can be used as collateral to make payments to the bounty manager, whereas if the payment is for the participants are not distributed, so it could also be the fault of the developer who does not carry out the agreement.

Yes you can handle it on an escrow but I don't think some of the coins are still lock for sometime depends on the project, I think. Well it's really risky for the bounty hunters that they would work so hard and not getting a payment also escrow is like optional and not necessary so only join on the campaign you think is worth and will pay you.

Yes, bounty is only a small part of this forum and the administrators will not be held accountable for it. That is why bounty managers appear on this forum, they will manage projects and keep them running smoothly on this forum and attract more people to join the bounty.

What TS offers is very similar to the function that the bounty hunters Union could perform if it were created. And so the idea is very interesting, because now there are smart contracts that will help you implement it.

The use of Escrow in bounties would go a long way to prevent the issue of unpaid bounty rewards in the forum. I wish it can be made mandatory, both projects and bounty manager should be mandated to comply or loose the bounty thread. This would give bounty hunters a voice and their worth would be appreciated by projects.

I remember managing the bounty julerz, but it seems that he doesn't have an active campaign at the moment, because I see him using the Esrwow system, different from other bounty managers, hopefully in the future it will be tightened

It's a good idea for us bounty hunters to get our right, which is a payment, but it would be nice to make it every week with the altcoins that are already on the market, they are the value of the bounty we are working on. so that everyone feels safe and trusts each other.

It should be like that. Only a few Bounty Managers implement Escrow in each campaign. With the escrow, participants will certainly feel that the payment will be safe. There have been many cases of unpaid participants. it's really very sad. If it's required, then this is a great move for all.

We have many other bounty managers like yahoo they mostly works in projects those give them coins before start of campaign as they feel good and have good confidence but right now we have no good projects so they are not doing any campaign or project hopefully as we will normal in coming days then we will have projects like these where managers will use escrow before start of project.

The idea is certainly interesting, but hardly feasible. It would be very tempting to participate in companies knowing in advance that you will receive a reward anyway. This would discipline the bounty executives a little.

julerz already temporary off from managing bounty campaign,actually when julerz managing campaign he doing good work . spreadsheet regularly updated and well in managing complaint.

bounty detective also request escrow for each campaign that managed. they guarantee payment when bounty already finish.

Well that sounds great i believe that if there is an escrow there is an assurance for the bounty payment, because there are a lot of fake project today and if there is no escrow there is no assurance for the bounty payment and it is end all up to wasting our time and effort. And base on my own experience about bounty camapign if there is an escrow the bounty hunter will have a courage to make a great job on promoting the project.

Well, yeah, I've been in a successful campaign and still they didn't pay us the one who participated their bounty campaign and we should do something to stop that.

The present solution to payment is using escrow and this is something that only bounty managers can do not admins on this forum, to run this website isn't that easy and taking care or responsibility for bounties is X2 hard work for admins, not a good idea

Escrow is good but not all escrowed bounty projects are good, don't promote simply because its escrowed, do your part with research and make sure the project is worth promoting, I still remember what happened with kingcasino months ago, it was escrowed and still end up scamming people

What will happen if every bounty hunters paid the fee and the promised token still end up been worthless after trading starts on exchanges? Isn't that a big loss for the fact that you still pay an extra fee?

I think that would be a very good one if it can be put into action but majority of the projects that refused to pay hunters I kind of lay some of the blames on Bounty Manager cos as a BM your reputation is at stake so they should find a way to always have the team transfer if not all but half of the Bounty token to them before they agree to manage Bounty for them

And that's very annoying if you fall with this kind of bounty participation, instead of getting something it will only lead you losing
the fees plus the frustrations that the developers will cause you.
It's always best to understand first all the things from the project that you are aiming to participate, even it's just a small fees
to consider the time and the efforts is more worthy.

lol, we should report such project, it's just a project that try to scam the hunters by asking fee to send the payment.
Real project should pay their promoter without additional fee, better just leave that kind of project.
Another thing that is important is the guarantee of the payment, like bountydetective, they often guarantee their payment.

we must not paid even that for fee or anything, bounty campaign never ask us fee to get bounty payment.only fake bounty campaign ,in few months ago we know some airdrop required some eth to get token, its same case with this .real project have their fund to run project and if they need money it will come from investors.

Rightly so, let another 3rd party like the administrators from the forum involved complicate everything. I'm sure administrators of this forum also have better thing to do than being a judge or escrow for some bounty that only have the fund for bounty at a few bitcoin.

they have to do that to actually attract more people and investors to invest on their projects, i would rather to join on those projects that store the coins or bounty rewards to trustworthy escrow, rather than blindly picking the projects as much as you can where the majority of them will reward you nothing. i didn't say that no escrow bounty is bad but it's recommended to choose the great one.

The idea is a great one but I doubt if it can be implemented. The forum owners also wanna make earning through the traffic on the forum. Making such rule may make projects teams look for other similar forums to run their bounties. No doubt the best any team can get is offered by this forum.

That is good idea but it will not be realized here because if the bounty hunters want assurance of the payment from the project they market the project also want it. The better idea is when the project run, this project should set aside some funds for the bounty hunters aside from the coins they receive so that bounty hunters effort will not waste, it is not easy to market a project especially if the project has difficult rules. This is only in my own opinion.

Yes, creating a bounty and escrow is something that you don't have to force if the project doesn't need it, but if that is done then there will be a good effect for the project itself, because on a real foundation they will be really strong in the future. if the project can be successful in a timely manner.

No need to make new rules regarding bounties, at this point bounties are still available that's a good thing,
rather than not having bounties at all in the forum, indeed we can't control the scammer, all we can do is analyze it before joining in the bounty

Because many projects fail and many hunter regrets at end of champaign that's why he makes thread like this, also I saw a thread about payments using stablecoin. But as you said "I doubt if it can be implemented" and I think it can't be implemented, so learn more about the project before joining and be prepared for all possibilities

I recall a bounty campaign managed by Bounty detective that turned out to be scam after the bounty payment has been escrowed & guaranteed by the manager, only for the project to pull an exit scam rendering the tokens useless. Similar case with Geoma DAO which is yet to have direction despite reward distributed to hunters. Escrow still doesn't solve the whole problem. Other solutions should be proffered, but can't put the responsibility on the forum administrators.

Crypto projects start as trial, mostly. They start a new project with some goals, they raise funds, they create app, dapp. Some get success, some fail to get desired result. Some run away with hard earned money. We invest on new tech, new ideas. We read WP, we observe Roadmap, we try to figure the output, we check the team member's portfolio. Even genious people fail.
So outcome is uncertain. Escrow, prior to ICO/IEO, is quite hard task to run a bounty.

And what about tokens that do not have any value? Still, would you like to be sure that you receive them? There were, are, and will be so many campaigns that although distribute tokens, but in the end the tokens are not listed anywhere and the value is 0. Your proposal does not solve it.

Some of the legit projects already have similar things like that. They hold bounty with a high reputation bounty manager and pay all the fees, funds to him just like it was in escrow. In the end, it's really up to each project if they want to do a serious business or not.

The froum is not responsible for bounties and the forums purpose is not to conduct bounties but to manage a crypto community here. Most of the new memebers do not understand this , they mostlt think of this place as money making machine. But it is not. Bounty is secondary function here.

And on top of it, they create alternate accounts to maximize the money that they can take from campaigns, but in this process they forget a very thin line that differentiates between spamming and constructive posting limits and cross it and then they get banned and they break more rules by creating new accounts. My opinion has always been to stick with one account, do good on the forum, help others and and become an established member and after some time the money will follow you, but others want to earn money first and always try to take from the community in return for nothing, you should always try to give back to community as well.

Keeping money in an escrow wallet doesn't guarantee that the project will succeed in the future, if a project is good it can be a huge success even without any escrow in place for bounty payments as well, or if a project just want to scam people then they can do the same even with a fake escrow in place.

Yeah, that bounty project involving to escrow/bounty manager group called Bounty Detective but doesn't bring back any assurance. Showing that even with escrow payment and different teams from bounty itself, your payment won't 100% guaranteed by them.

Bounty payment really matters, only if this can be approved by Bitcointalk team, it will be of great help to hunters. Issue related to not getting desired bounty reward will stop and everybody will be happy.

Good day Sir. I express my Gratitude to this trusted and Reliable Company. Please this information is Urgent.... I want to draw your attention to the Notice that Bounty Mangers now runs with our Bounty Reward without distributing the reward to the Qualified Bounty Hunters.... This has happen on two Occasion now. I participated on two Bounty Project which the manger runs with our Bounty reward. Please I advice this Company to distribute the bounty Time to them to the every qualified Bounty Hunter that patiently took their time to bring the success of this company into reliality.
SAT AT 413 PM

Good evening I am one of the bounty hunter that did campaign for the success of this great Company. Sir what's is the faith of our bounty reward distribution? Is over two months we haven't heard any information concerning distribution

Telegram group is lock against us. As a hunter we don't longer know the plans of this company towards us. so I decide to message here on Facebook.


The above message was what I sent to the company. And my replied from them is below;


Good morning, I am sorry to hear that. But there is nothing what we can do about it. We outsourced the initial bounty program to an external consultant by the name of Celeste Paras. We do not know who the bounty participants are nor did we distribute the bounty ANGS. This was done by Celeste Paras. We have no influence and no knowledge of what she did. However rest assured that we learned a lesson here and that we will not outsource any more key programs to external parties.

10:03 PM
Please they should stop giving the token to manager to Distribute to hunter

Your tips of advice will really be in favor of all bounty hunters to tell you frankly. But this will be difficult to implement here in the forum, because if this is simple probably, this may be applied but that's not what happened. But I do hope the bounty managers who will handle the bounty campaign can bring this to the owner of the ico, ieo project.

It all depends on the bounty manager, even if a project use escrow and the bounty manager isn't a experienced BM it won't make much difference, a friend of mine promoted arcs from bounty detective which was escrow but only got one quarter of his whole token, it's been three weeks and distribution is still ongoing, that's why the team said, how is this a good strategy?

This is also not a way out for bounty hunters from working for nothing. There is always a chance that bounty manager, that holds rewards, disappears. As well as holding rewards does not mean they will be distributed. As an example I can point on KingCasino bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5242001.0). Bounty management team were holding rewards and guaranteed distribution. Promoted projects turns to be scam. So bounty managers were holding "nothing" and there was no use to distribute it.

I prefer projects that distribute tokens within a week or distribute through 2 to 3 phases to avoid dump, this is better than escrow, moreover If the token isn't that good enough it will still be useless even if you get the tokens deposited into your wallet, escrow isn't everything.

It will be hurtful if you promote a project for months and get nothing in return, escrow is the solution to not getting paid after bounty ends but whatever will happen to the project in terms of value isn't on escrow, it's on the project capability itself, which ever project you choose to promote is on you, as a bounty hunter don't promote projects anyhow.

I think it is advisable to increase the bonus pool and find ways to distribute the bonuses across projects that span over time. Currently, projects have small bonuses and many projects do not have liquidity to trade. There are also scam projects. I think the participants of the bounty programs have identified themselves as being scammed and they accept to be able to gain a bounty in the project's tokens. Perhaps bounty and airdrops will remain a controversial topic in the crypto world.

These ways of making money will always remain relevant and new people in the world of cryptocurrencies will earn their starting capital in bounty campaigns.

They were distributing the token, but to prevent the price from crashing, they distributed it in different phases. Until 5/9 all bounty hunters will receive their tokens, which is a good and great strategy. It helps both sides to benefit

Bounty would remarkably experience a boost, if the moderators of the forum, establish some regulations in bounty campaign to help the hunters earn from bounties. I know some projects have a history of not fulfilling their obligations as it relates to payments for bounty conducted and these projects still go about their goals without any sanctions.

The administration of the forum will not be able to control payments for bounty hunters in any way. it's just not technically possible. if some administrators cheat bounty hunters then you will see a red trust on their accounts

Bounty promotion is only for the strong, I haven't seen a good project that uses escrow to pay bounty hunters this year and that the token start surging, most escrow projects I see are all nonsense projects, Cartesi bounty don't use escrow, even oikos is the same too

at least using escrow will reduce the risk for you from getting scam. also it will be better for you to joined the bounty campaign which pay you with coins that already trade in the market. because if the bounty payment is distributed fast and have no market, it will be useless if you can't sell it. i ever joined that kind of bounty, i joined it in early 2019 and can't sell it till now.

Cartesi and Oikos are the leading projects in this market, and of course they won't need to use escrow. In addition, they always live up to their promises, distribute tokens as scheduled and without any delay.

Either escrow, limited participants or fixed tokens, all these strategy doesn't mean the project will turn out fine, they are all still risky, escrowed tokens can turn worthless too if the team never had a good plan for the project right from the start, I prefer trusting a reputable bounty manager instead.

there have been so many bounty payment problems from the past until now cut allocations not as written from the beginning besides it the lock token system don't know when it will open The essence of all this, bounty hunter must be careful before joining a bounty checked in detail so that the work is not in vain

Payment for bounty participants has always been an unsolved problem, there are so many cases that have happened, starting from cutting allocations when the project is successful, payments take so long and some do not pay at all.
To improve bounty quality, forum moderators must set strict rules in bounty campaigns, such as asking for a deposit when the campaign will be released, if the bounty team commits a violation, they will get a penalty from the forum moderator.

Always and a must to do before participating, it's your precious time that you'll going to invest with this job with some efforts to
make the project more attracting from the possible investors.
You need to considered every possible things that might affect you in receiving your rewards. both the team and BM should be note down.

Of course it is matters. Without payment, the hunters efforts and time will be gone in vain.
That's why it is very important to ensure the bounty campaign will pay you before you joined.
And to make certain of it, bounty manager must be able to show the proof such as escrowed address contain the payment.

There is a manager name julerz12 who uses escrow for payment. Even its altcoin project he managed to secure the bounty funds. But I read on the service section that he will rest for a while due to busy schedule and personal matter. Oikos and cartesi are good spotted campaigns do hope I participated on those good projects.

The only negative aspect for being an escrow for bounty rewards - you need to spend your own funds for distribution and then wait for the project to repay your expenses. This happened exactly with julerz12 last campaign. He managed it perfectly, distributed part of rewards and then he run out of ethereum/gas and waited for Dao Geoma project to send him funds for further distribution. He waited for several months and hunters started to blame him for pausing distribution/not distributing at all/stealing rewards.

Bounty managers that escrows rewards need to have strong guts and steel balls :)

A more realistic and do-able suggestion especially to those new projects whose looking for the help of many bounty hunters. It is really  good to set that kind of standard, it is a win-win situation in both sides. It can also lessen those projects that turns out to be a fake, bogus or scam project. I would definitely agree to this kind of suggestion.

Escrow is the best strategy, to those saying that it's the team choice well if the team values the work of bounty hunters they will have no choice but to go escrow, only those who want to cheat bounty participants will go against using escrow, using escrow will even give bounty participants more confidence to work at their best

This thread for me is really substantial and I would strongly agreed to what is being said. We, bounty hunters also need to have assurance that once that a bounty campaign/project gets done and become successful we also our partake from what we have work and having settlement with the project developer from the very beginning will help both sides to make a successful project.

There have been so many people who have written posts like this before but in fact the forum admin will never listen to hunter complaints because they don't have enough time to take care of it, for bounty payments it is a matter for the bounty manager and the project team

In addition to what TS offers, I would also exclude the phrase: "the developer team can change the terms of the bounty campaign at any time" and similar wording. Otherwise, it turns out to be a one-sided game in which bounty hunters are always on the losing side.

 Honestly there is no way I would ever trust a bounty that doesn't use an escrow. Why would an escrow be a problem? Think about it, if they are so legit and will pay why do you think they will not use an escrow? However you should also know that there are sometimes technical stuff in the way, for example there is release date and ICO is on still funding process, that means they are still not giving out money to people who even paid for it, they are still not launched so it totally checks out. Because at the end of the day if you can't give money to anyone, how can you give it to bounty hunters? But if it s a regular one where people have money of, that means they need escrow for sure. I personally never been part of a project myself that early one, but was part of one that was 2 years old and tried to revive and we paid the escrow a hefty amount just so he could help us out, he was both escrow but also bounty manager as well so it came out great.

If taking risks isn't fun to you then it's not your place to be, do not bother to be a bounty hunter, not all bounty managers and project team will accept escrow and that doesn't mean the projects won't be successful

it is impossible to make big money without risks. the cryptocurrency market provides many opportunities for those people who can risk their money and do the correct analytics of the coins in which they invest

Great idea but it seems difficult to make because it applies its new rules and leave an old habit, i really agree with your assertions but sometimes we will cry for token ashes