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Title: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on March 08, 2020, 02:26:48 AM
got a letter

Sorry, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism. You may appeal here, but your chances are not good: banappeals...@bitcointalk.org


wrote to the mail - did not help


Title: Re: blocked account
Post by: Deathwing on March 08, 2020, 02:37:46 AM
So... your account gets banned and you log in to your alt to post this thread? Weird.

Give more information about your account, change your thread's title to "[APPEAL] accountname" or something along those lines. Let me warn you, it is against the forum rules to continue using the forum with an alt account when you are banned, so if you don't want to lose this account as well, just wait on your appeal.



Title: Re: blocked account
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 08, 2020, 02:39:51 AM
So... your account gets banned and you log in to your alt to post this thread? Weird.

Give more information about your account, change your topic's title to "[APPEAL] accountname" or something along those lines. Let me warn you, it is against the forum rules to continue using the forum with an alt account when you are banned, so if you don't want to lose this account as well, just wait on your appeal.


Unfortunately they never listen and do not realize that being banned on 1 account means banned on any account period on the forum. Admins may as well issue the hammer to the alt account too and save time.


Title: Re: blocked account
Post by: YOSHIE on March 08, 2020, 05:33:24 AM
Give more information about your account, change your thread's title to "[APPEAL] accountname" or something along those lines. Let me warn you, it is against the forum rules to continue using the forum with an alt account when you are banned, so if you don't want to lose this account as well, just wait on your appeal.
Perhaps, the account below is discussed by the OP.
If I'm not mistaken.

1. rubitok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156)
2. messi1488 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749877)

Bpipi (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=rubitok)

Bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=messi1488)

OP, you can see a list: Topic: A wave of bans: 400 yesterday, 300 the day before. What changed? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.msg51898094#msg51898094),  number, 99.
I saw @rubitok, posted in two languages ​​Korean and Russian, maybe copying / pasting, he was banned.


Title: Re: blocked account
Post by: wmalliance on March 08, 2020, 08:33:38 PM
So... your account gets banned and you log in to your alt to post this thread? Weird.

Give more information about your account, change your thread's title to "[APPEAL] accountname" or something along those lines. Let me warn you, it is against the forum rules to continue using the forum with an alt account when you are banned, so if you don't want to lose this account as well, just wait on your appeal.



we have several companies with different brands and different people write,
they asked me to find out about an account that was blocked for unknown reasons,
most likely it was a mistake and an accident.




Unfortunately they never listen and do not realize that being banned on 1 account means banned on any account period on the forum. Admins may as well issue the hammer to the alt account too and save time.

I understand everything perfectly, but since they are different people, this does not contradict any forum rules




If I'm not mistaken.

1. rubitok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156)
2. messi1488 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749877)

Bpipi (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=rubitok)

Bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=messi1488)

OP, you can see a list: Topic: A wave of bans: 400 yesterday, 300 the day before. What changed? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.msg51898094#msg51898094),  number, 99.
I saw @rubitok, posted in two languages ​​Korean and Russian, maybe copying / pasting, he was banned.

yes that's right it's about rubitok

and he was banned by accident - nothing was broken, it was written in different languages, but it was not spam or copy-paste



I talked with a colleague who managed this account Rubitok
he vows that he never violated and will not break any rules and asks about unlock his account  :'(


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 08, 2020, 09:04:47 PM
For the lazy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156
post history - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156;sa=showPosts

I have no idea why the OP is banned.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2020, 09:13:00 PM
I talked with a colleague who managed this account Rubitok
he vows that he never violated and will not break any rules and asks about unlock his account  :'(

Colleague LOL.

You've been banned for plagiarism according to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4588431.msg51479268#msg51479268

As for "never violated"... seeing how you're making multiple posts in a row I'm gonna guess that you haven't actually read the rules.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: ryzaadit on March 08, 2020, 09:13:42 PM
For the lazy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156
post history - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156;sa=showPosts

I have no idea why the OP is banned.
Gotcha.

and he was banned by accident - nothing was broken, it was written in different languages, but it was not spam or copy-paste
Well, he broke the rules "copy-paste" other people comment at other blog by him self.

Original :
ZeroNet. Oчeнь гибкaя oткpытaя p2p-плaтфopмa c pacпpeдeлёнными блoгaми, микpoблoгaми, фopyмaми, wiki, чaтaми и дpyгими динaмичecкими и cтaтичecкими caйтaми. Кpaйняя лёгкocть coздaния cвoиx caйтoв.
Steemit. Блoги нa blockchain. Кpиптoвaлютa, кoтopaя мaйнитcя блoг-пocтaми, кoммeнтaми и oцeнкaми.
SSB Patchwork. Зaкoнeчннoe p2p-блoг-пpилoжeниe c кaнaлaми, пpивaтными гpyппaми и т.п.
Retroshare. p2p/f2f-фopyмы, кaнaлы, фaйлoвый oбмeн c выcoкoй cтeпeнью aнoнимнocти в видe зaкoнчeннoгo пpилoжeния.

Copy :
нa пpocтopax интepнeтa yдaлocь нaйти

  • ZeroNet. Oчeнь гибкaя oткpытaя p2p-плaтфopмa c pacпpeдeлёнными блoгaми, микpoблoгaми, фopyмaми, wiki, чaтaми и дpyгими динaмичecкими и cтaтичecкими caйтaми. Кpaйняя лёгкocть coздaния cвoиx caйтoв.
  • Steemit. Блoги нa blockchain. Кpиптoвaлютa, кoтopaя мaйнитcя блoг-пocтaми, кoммeнтaми и oцeнкaми.
  • SSB Patchwork. Зaкoнeчннoe p2p-блoг-пpилoжeниe c кaнaлaми, пpивaтными гpyппaми и т.п.
  • Retroshare. p2p/f2f-фopyмы, кaнaлы, фaйлoвый oбмeн c выcoкoй cтeпeнью aнoнимнocти в видe зaкoнчeннoгo пpилoжeния.



Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: JeromeTash on March 08, 2020, 09:49:42 PM
I talked with a colleague who managed this account Rubitok
he vows that he never violated and will not break any rules and asks about unlock his account  :'(
You are twisting words mate,
So you got a "letter" about the ban on the Rubitok and then wrote the appeal for your colleague?
I thought since he was the owner of the account he should have been the one to send the email seeking an appeal to the ban.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: Xal0lex on March 09, 2020, 03:02:28 AM
I talked with a colleague who managed this account Rubitok
he vows that he never violated and will not break any rules and asks about unlock his account  :'(

rubitok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156) was banned for plagiarism on July 11, 2019.

Copy:
Чтo, бля?
Heт тaм ничeгo шифpoвaннoгo.
Кpиптoгpaфия ó этo cepдцe блoкчeйнa, кoтopoe oбecпeчивaeт paбoтy cиcтeмы. Apxитeктypa блoкчeйнa пpeдпoлaгaeт, чтo дoвepиe мeждy yчacтникaми ceти бaзиpyeтcя нa пpинципax мaтeмaтики и экoнoмики, тo ecть являeтcя фopмaлизoвaнным. Кpиптoгpaфия тaкжe гapaнтиpyeт бeзoпacнocть, пpичeм ocнoвaннyю нa пpoзpaчнocти и пpoвepяeмocти вcex oпepaций, a нe нa тpaдициoннoм для индycтpии oгpaничeнии видимocти cиcтeмы (perimeter security).
Original:
Кpиптoгpaфия ó этo cepдцe блoкчeйнa, кoтopoe oбecпeчивaeт paбoтy cиcтeмы. Apxитeктypa блoкчeйнa пpeдпoлaгaeт, чтo дoвepиe мeждy yчacтникaми ceти бaзиpyeтcя нa пpинципax мaтeмaтики и экoнoмики, тo ecть являeтcя фopмaлизoвaнным. Кpиптoгpaфия тaкжe гapaнтиpyeт бeзoпacнocть, пpичeм ocнoвaннyю нa пpoзpaчнocти и пpoвepяeмocти вcex oпepaций, a нe нa тpaдициoннoм для индycтpии oгpaничeнии видимocти cиcтeмы (perimeter security).


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on March 09, 2020, 11:02:59 AM
You are twisting words mate,
So you got a "letter" about the ban on the Rubitok and then wrote the appeal for your colleague?
I thought since he was the owner of the account he should have been the one to send the email seeking an appeal to the ban.

He wrote from the mail which is attached to the account but did not receive a response and asked me to do it



I talked with a colleague who managed this account Rubitok
he vows that he never violated and will not break any rules and asks about unlock his account  :'(

rubitok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1021156) was banned for plagiarism on July 11, 2019.


yes, in this he already repented that he gave a quote from another site answering a user’s question

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Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: Frengki_cisco on March 09, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
yes, in this he already repented that he gave a quote from another site answering a userís question
here does not seem to apply, repentance, mistakes remain in law, what about the others who are wrong and forbidden, can they repent, I think not, if your friends want to repent to church better, forum I think is not a good place to accept repentance from {copy-paste} errors.

Try to tell your friends to take the path of repentance here,{ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0 }, who knows your friend's repentance is granted, but i don't know succeed or not.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on March 09, 2020, 03:37:04 PM
here does not seem to apply, repentance, mistakes remain in law, what about the others who are wrong and forbidden, can they repent, I think not, if your friends want to repent to church better, forum I think is not a good place to accept repentance from {copy-paste} errors.

Try to tell your friends to take the path of repentance here,{ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0 }, who knows your friend's repentance is granted, but i don't know succeed or not.

we all understand that there was no violation in fact! so why all this talk?


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: Rizzrack on March 09, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
...there was no violation in fact! so why all this talk?

Plagiarism is a violation.

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.*

* This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

And lots of accounts were banned for this...


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: JeromeTash on March 09, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
we all understand that there was no violation in fact! so why all this talk?
Maybe you should try to read the rules again and understand my friend. The violation was copying and pasting information without at least citing a source or including a source link(plagiarism).
That's one of the most unwanted offenses in this forum which can lead to permanent ban if caught with a close to zero chance of getting unbanned.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on March 13, 2020, 12:43:14 AM

Maybe you should try to read the rules again and understand my friend. The violation was copying and pasting information without at least citing a source or including a source link(plagiarism).
That's one of the most unwanted offenses in this forum which can lead to permanent ban if caught with a close to zero chance of getting unbanned.

sorry, but it’s 38 words and it was the definition of the meaning of rewriting this text there was no )



so will this Rubitok account be unlocked?



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Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: nakamura12 on April 07, 2020, 05:33:51 PM
so will this Rubitok account be unlocked?


That depends on the forum moderators. Your account is banned because of plagiarism which is not allowed to do so in this forum. In my opinion, getting your account unbanned is an impossible thing to do as I have said only theymos decide to do so.  If you think there is no violation then "WHY IS YOUR ACCOUNT BANNED?" that's the question.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: Lauda on April 07, 2020, 05:56:32 PM
so will this Rubitok account be unlocked?
Theymos says that if you plagiarise you can GTFO.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: acroman08 on April 07, 2020, 06:13:28 PM
here does not seem to apply, repentance, mistakes remain in law, what about the others who are wrong and forbidden, can they repent, I think not, if your friends want to repent to church better, forum I think is not a good place to accept repentance from {copy-paste} errors.

Try to tell your friends to take the path of repentance here,{ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0 }, who knows your friend's repentance is granted, but i don't know succeed or not.

we all understand that there was no violation in fact! so why all this talk?

NO, you don't understand. your "friend" plagiarised from habr.com. it doesn't matter if he repented or not. he broke the rules and is being punished for it.
and to answer your question whether your "friends" account will be unbanned? NO.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on May 08, 2020, 05:03:55 PM
That depends on the forum moderators. Your account is banned because of plagiarism which is not allowed to do so in this forum. In my opinion, getting your account unbanned is an impossible thing to do as I have said only theymos decide to do so.  If you think there is no violation then "WHY IS YOUR ACCOUNT BANNED?" that's the question.

everyone makes mistakes

and here - it’s just some kind of misunderstanding, there was no plagiarism!



it’s also visible that he simply answered by inserting the text that the other user brought in - as if he was not plagiarizing, but the author of the answer

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Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: actmyname on May 10, 2020, 06:41:27 AM
itís also visible that he simply answered by inserting the text that the other user brought in - as if he was not plagiarizing, but the author of the answer
I don't quite understand this.

From what I gather, the situation is as follows:

The user found an answer to a question from another site. [perfectly fine]
The user decided to copy the exact text from the site. [perfectly fine*] *(given negation of the following)
The user did not credit the source of the original text. [not fine].

It's a little weird that you're being so vehement towards your friend/colleague's account and that they haven't written a single word of their own to defend themselves.



Forum rules are easy to find. I read them on my first day, IIRC.



Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on May 13, 2020, 06:10:07 PM


It's a little weird that you're being so vehement towards your friend/colleague's account and that they haven't written a single word of their own to defend themselves.



so they wonít be able to write - he has a blocked account - he cannot write anything!


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 13, 2020, 06:33:00 PM


It's a little weird that you're being so vehement towards your friend/colleague's account and that they haven't written a single word of their own to defend themselves.



so they wonít be able to write - he has a blocked account - he cannot write anything!

This is not entirely true. Your friend has the right to create an appeal account. But with this account, he can only write in the META section.
It seems that neither you nor your friend has read all the rules of this forum. Sometimes ignorance of the rules can play against you.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: Upgrade00 on May 13, 2020, 07:00:02 PM
This is not entirely true. Your friend has the right to create an appeal account. But with this account, he can only write in the META section.
A little correction for clarity, a banned user can only post in their appeal thread in Meta, any post outside that thread; even though it is made in Meta would still count as ban evasion.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on May 14, 2020, 08:49:11 AM
But with this account, he can only write in the META section.
It seems that neither you nor your friend has read all the rules of this forum. Sometimes ignorance of the rules can play against you.

He told me that he tried to write from this account to any section and nowhere does it work  :-\



A little correction for clarity, a banned user can only post in their appeal thread in Meta, any post outside that thread; even though it is made in Meta would still count as ban evasion.

thank you for confirming my statement  ;)

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Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 14, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
A little correction for clarity, a banned user can only post in their appeal thread in Meta, any post outside that thread; even though it is made in Meta would still count as ban evasion.

thank you for confirming my statement  ;)

I sincerely advise you to understand this rule, as well as to carefully study all the others.


32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.


Title: Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok
Post by: wmalliance on May 21, 2020, 11:01:33 PM
I sincerely advise you to understand this rule, as well as to carefully study all the others.

better help people kind partner from the ban rescue please  :'(